Been following this channel a long time and always impressed by the clarity of information.The techniques and skill sets shared are first class one of the best instructional channels out there absolutely great 👍
Great vid Josh!! Learned a couple new techniques. Now to get out side tomorrow, when the fog lifts and the sun comes out, to go practice those. Thanks!
Next up, Winter - night time navigation and NO sun. A bit of star gazing if the skies clear, but with cloud? I now have a few button compasses placed in all the bags I'm likely to pick up before leaving the house. Of course i have my Silva and a compass on my watch too - Where I live in the UK there's still a chance to get lost but you can find a main road around and signposts help. Out on the trail where you are, it's a whole world of hurt if you get it wrong; They should give you a show on HBO or something - best viewing all week.
Cool. Pro-tips. I really enjoyed this video and there is something to be said about having knowledge of primitive methods … it may impact your survival. A great follow up would be a quick video how to use the North star to navigate at night … either on the water via canoe or on foot across a an open expanse.
I suppose for the Horizon Line Adjustment method, if you count the handbreaths from horizon to sun bottom (say 3 handbreaths = 45 degrees), and have a straight staff (Scout staff for example) that you hold at arm's length toward the sun, and stick it in the ground. That shadow can be used by placing your toes on the shadow edge, then, turning the left foot (if done in the morning) 45 degrees left, and aligning the right foot with the left, this would point your toes north (+/- 2 degrees). Inspiring stuff, Joshua, thanks.
I have not heard of that technique before, but it sounds nice to know. I have several compasses and use them when going camping in the forest and they do a great job of helping me navigate my way around.
Catfish great training I enjoy your videos they have a lot of great information also you have a great teaching style it easy to understand what you are trying to covey in the lesson keep up the great work you’re doing Clear Skies Calm Winds my friend Joe Broadway
Thanks for always sharing such invaluable knowledge, have you considered to offer an online version of you master navigation course for the people that are not able to travel to your location to take the course?
Great Video! Can you explain the second method please? I don't see how the angle to the horizon(sky ascension) can help you get a direction. To me, you can only use this kind of method in combination with time. Then you can account for angular change in regard to noon. 15°/hour as you explained.
Interesting… Question? With this demonstration could you imagine that you were an airplane, just like runway numbers with the information that you just explained use this as a heading in any particular direction? With this in mind to making sure you were moving in the proper direction it would be like ATC checking our flight path which in turn you would stop every once in a while to check you heading numbers?
"As the sun APPEARS to arc across the sky." Appearances can be deceiving an it appears this mans aware. Just know people, the earth doesn't move an the sun is never "under" you. Thats just dumb.
how do you adjust your calculations taking in account the time of the year, winter, summer and your actual location in eg northern hemisphere what I mean is the farther north you go the day and night get either much longer or shorter than 12 hrs depending on time of the year?
I live in Wisconsin, so I was also wondering about this also. In the winter we have pretty short days where the sun goes down at 5:00. There aren't 12 hours of light, so would this still work?
Currently we have 14:45 hours in a day, how do you change your approach? This means that 180 divided by 14:45 = 12.46degrees not 15. Anyway when i did the measurement the sun was about 5 hands up and when i looked at the clock it was exactly 5hours past sunrise, but when i turned my feet 75degrees (5*15degrees = 75) i was waaaay off south... I just cannot get my hand around what i am doing wrong... Hope someone can help...
Question, if I am traveling on a compass heading and I turn 90 degrees and start traveling on the new compass heading would the new compass heading be my LOP if someone were to ask me my location?
I've always wondered how usable are techniques like the second one for people living at higher latitudes, like me. Does the length of the day play a role? The differences are quite extreme between winter (6:25 h) and summer (18:15 h). In the summer suns sets on the much shallower trajectory, so already the technique of measuring by outstretched arm how much time you have left until the sun sets is quite inaccurate.
I’m in the ADK mountains and can confirm it’s accurate for about the first three hours and last three hours during the winter. The sun sort of levels off and isn’t (appearing to go) any higher after that, just arcing straight across for the most part so it doesn’t give you any additional input on the measurement above the horizon like because of it
Sorry if this is a stupid question but say if you're lost in the woods, does knowing which way is north/south matter, if so, why? This is assuming you don't know what's around you of course.
I’d say that if you didn’t know which direction you were trying to go to begin with, probably a significant contributor to becoming lost in the first place. To your point, if you were wandering around aimlessly to begin with, many times knowing how to find north won’t matter, you weren’t using directions to begin with.
What is actually showing is an E-W, yes. What I’m saying is that gives you your North South which is what I’m using the E-W to infer. Probably didn’t come out as clear as it could have I admit.
By the way I don’t know about the globe, the sun definitely does move at 15 degrees per hour. But I don’t think it curves at 8” per mile squared.. Just sayin much love and thanks for the info.
@@GrayBeardedGreenBeret wow. Unreal. Best of luck to the both of you. I’ll Make sure to support you directly now!! One of the best in the game. Frm one Josh to another, you da best! 🤣
Looked into buying some kit, and the shipping to Canada was a preposterous $100. I reluctantly handed more money to Bezos because supporting GBGB was prohibitively expensive.
Why are you using your thumb when deciding sun to horizon when each finger is 15 min.. your way is 1hour + 15min. Because of your thumb, dont use your thumb & your figures will be more precise. 😎🍺⚓🇺🇸
Remember that not all fingers are the same size so we can’t really say 4 fingers is the standard any more than 4 fingers and a thumb are. Your fingers and mine are different sizes. My pinky is not as fat as the others, so is one finger really 15 minutes? Can’t be unless all fingers are equal. Not to mention some people look at their fingertips and some look closer to the palm, both measure differently. Either way, there isn’t really a lot of precision in field expedient methods. Compasses are precise, fingers aren’t 👍
i like this guy. no frills. no nonsense. just skills.
Thanks 🙏
For Us Military Folks this is a great refresher. Been years since using any of the Bush Crafts. Passing this on to the grandkids.
Thanks
Its a pity more people aren't subscribed to your channel
Been following this channel a long time and always impressed by the clarity of information.The techniques and skill sets shared are first class one of the best instructional channels out there absolutely great 👍
I always learn so much from you. You are a good teacher. 👍🏻
Amazing how basic drills of left, right, and about face serve as foundations for field expedient direction finding!
Accurate!
Great vid Josh!! Learned a couple new techniques. Now to get out side tomorrow, when the fog lifts and the sun comes out, to go practice those.
Thanks!
Next up, Winter - night time navigation and NO sun. A bit of star gazing if the skies clear, but with cloud? I now have a few button compasses placed in all the bags I'm likely to pick up before leaving the house. Of course i have my Silva and a compass on my watch too - Where I live in the UK there's still a chance to get lost but you can find a main road around and signposts help. Out on the trail where you are, it's a whole world of hurt if you get it wrong; They should give you a show on HBO or something - best viewing all week.
I’m too low drama for TV
Learned this in Marines.
still use it for fun to keep myself in the knowing. Good VID!
Cool. Pro-tips. I really enjoyed this video and there is something to be said about having knowledge of primitive methods … it may impact your survival. A great follow up would be a quick video how to use the North star to navigate at night … either on the water via canoe or on foot across a an open expanse.
Very good. Thanks.
Thank you GB2 for the knowledge!
Nice. It makes a difference when explained like this. Thanks.
As always another great video very clear and informative. Just ordered your book can't wait to read it.
Good video. I was taught by my grandfather the last method of finding north you showed. The first one is good to know as well.
Received your book yesterday. Great info, and worth every cent. Many thanks!
I saw the video about wound closure..
Love it. 👍🏻
I suppose for the Horizon Line Adjustment method, if you count the handbreaths from horizon to sun bottom (say 3 handbreaths = 45 degrees), and have a straight staff (Scout staff for example) that you hold at arm's length toward the sun, and stick it in the ground. That shadow can be used by placing your toes on the shadow edge, then, turning the left foot (if done in the morning) 45 degrees left, and aligning the right foot with the left, this would point your toes north (+/- 2 degrees). Inspiring stuff, Joshua, thanks.
Every one of Josh’s videos are the 💣!
I have not heard of that technique before, but it sounds nice to know. I have several compasses and use them when going camping in the forest and they do a great job of helping me navigate my way around.
Good job Josh 1st time I've seen anybody talk about this since I went to MWTC Bridgeport
Joshua , good informational video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Here in the PacNW where we live under a perpetual blanket of clouds we use a few other tricks.
Outstanding
Very much appreciated and I'am enjoying the series. Very informative crazy useful, thank you God bless.
Really enjoyed this one!!
Man love this guy great information. I have learned so much...keep it man great content
Excellent information.
Great video. God bless. from Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Josh is awesome!!
Love your content Josh 👍💝
Catfish great training I enjoy your videos they have a lot of great information also you have a great teaching style it easy to understand what you are trying to covey in the lesson keep up the great work you’re doing
Clear Skies Calm Winds my friend Joe Broadway
Great video!
Thanks GBGB Love the out takes 💪🤣
Great info!
Weird I was just talking about being lost in the woods and how it can be challenging to navigate on overcast days.
Excellent 👍🏻
Good stuff. 👍
Awesome...
We do the same thing in the jungle, the latter method... except need to get up a tree to get a good bearing.
Great video. I love hard rock and heavy metal music but having to quickly adjust my volume is no fun :)
Defo recommend the book.
Thanks for always sharing such invaluable knowledge, have you considered to offer an online version of you master navigation course for the people that are not able to travel to your location to take the course?
The second method looks great and could you do that again at different times? There is something im missing i might get with more experience.
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Great Video! Can you explain the second method please? I don't see how the angle to the horizon(sky ascension) can help you get a direction. To me, you can only use this kind of method in combination with time. Then you can account for angular change in regard to noon. 15°/hour as you explained.
6:57 - Now even GBGB is doing Tiktok dances. :(
Great Video! And the "Just use your compass, if you have a compass" advise, was that for Air Force guy's?? lol. Thanks for sharing.
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Interesting… Question? With this demonstration could you imagine that you were an airplane, just like runway numbers with the information that you just explained use this as a heading in any particular direction? With this in mind to making sure you were moving in the proper direction it would be like ATC checking our flight path which in turn you would stop every once in a while to check you heading numbers?
"As the sun APPEARS to arc across the sky." Appearances can be deceiving an it appears this mans aware. Just know people, the earth doesn't move an the sun is never "under" you. Thats just dumb.
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Found your book on Amazon I thinkn
Cause you never know when Murphy is going to snatch your compass and GPS ☹️
how do you adjust your calculations taking in account the time of the year, winter, summer and your actual location in eg northern hemisphere
what I mean is the farther north you go the day and night get either much longer or shorter than 12 hrs depending on time of the year?
I live in Wisconsin, so I was also wondering about this also. In the winter we have pretty short days where the sun goes down at 5:00. There aren't 12 hours of light, so would this still work?
Currently we have 14:45 hours in a day, how do you change your approach? This means that 180 divided by 14:45 = 12.46degrees not 15. Anyway when i did the measurement the sun was about 5 hands up and when i looked at the clock it was exactly 5hours past sunrise, but when i turned my feet 75degrees (5*15degrees = 75) i was waaaay off south... I just cannot get my hand around what i am doing wrong... Hope someone can help...
Question, if I am traveling on a compass heading and I turn 90 degrees and start traveling on the new compass heading would the new compass heading be my LOP if someone were to ask me my location?
I've always wondered how usable are techniques like the second one for people living at higher latitudes, like me. Does the length of the day play a role? The differences are quite extreme between winter (6:25 h) and summer (18:15 h). In the summer suns sets on the much shallower trajectory, so already the technique of measuring by outstretched arm how much time you have left until the sun sets is quite inaccurate.
I’m in the ADK mountains and can confirm it’s accurate for about the first three hours and last three hours during the winter. The sun sort of levels off and isn’t (appearing to go) any higher after that, just arcing straight across for the most part so it doesn’t give you any additional input on the measurement above the horizon like because of it
@@GrayBeardedGreenBeret today answers the question for me too! Great video! Thanks!
If this is ever goes to total pot, I'd bet he'd survive, even thrive. I would think.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but say if you're lost in the woods, does knowing which way is north/south matter, if so, why? This is assuming you don't know what's around you of course.
I’d say that if you didn’t know which direction you were trying to go to begin with, probably a significant contributor to becoming lost in the first place. To your point, if you were wandering around aimlessly to begin with, many times knowing how to find north won’t matter, you weren’t using directions to begin with.
04:30 how do you know it's north, not south?
In the first instance, you say north south line when it is actually East west line, correct?
What is actually showing is an E-W, yes. What I’m saying is that gives you your North South which is what I’m using the E-W to infer. Probably didn’t come out as clear as it could have I admit.
Wouldn’t you have to be in an area without tree s that may shade over first and last shadow?
By the way I don’t know about the globe, the sun definitely does move at 15 degrees per hour. But I don’t think it curves at 8” per mile squared.. Just sayin much love and thanks for the info.
Sorry, so for me heading towards the sun is always north?
Lol...😎
I may have missed this… But are you no longer affiliated with SRO/pathfinder!?!? And if so best of luck to the both of you.
I am not and have not been for about 16-18 months or so now.
@@GrayBeardedGreenBeret wow. Unreal. Best of luck to the both of you. I’ll
Make sure to support you directly now!! One of the best in the game. Frm one Josh to another, you da best! 🤣
What if there's heavy overcast and you can't see the sun or stars?
Get some.
What's the declination for a pole shift..?
You won’t know til it’s over. Blessings
@@nabobgreen2070 was a joke....
Website!!! Thumb drive!!! Plan on a great customer starting July for my winter camp equipment. Alaska caretaker 🏕
any signed copies ?
So first shadow won’t work in Alaska? Correct?🤔
Definitely won’t work for portions of the year, although you can get some light data for the time the sun is up that can give you general East/west
Is there a audio version of grey beards book ?
Yes
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If your store would cater to international costumers you would have sold more stuff.
Just saying.
Looked into buying some kit, and the shipping to Canada was a preposterous $100. I reluctantly handed more money to Bezos because supporting GBGB was prohibitively expensive.
This is the type of information that all humans should know... instead, teachers are trying to teach kids about 26 different genders
Why are you using your thumb when deciding sun to horizon when each finger is 15 min.. your way is 1hour + 15min. Because of your thumb, dont use your thumb & your figures will be more precise. 😎🍺⚓🇺🇸
Remember that not all fingers are the same size so we can’t really say 4 fingers is the standard any more than 4 fingers and a thumb are. Your fingers and mine are different sizes. My pinky is not as fat as the others, so is one finger really 15 minutes? Can’t be unless all fingers are equal. Not to mention some people look at their fingertips and some look closer to the palm, both measure differently. Either way, there isn’t really a lot of precision in field expedient methods. Compasses are precise, fingers aren’t 👍