Naoshima Art Island: A rip-off?
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- I spent a day visiting the art islands of Naoshima and Teshima. As beautiful as the area is, I didn't really love it.
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Hi,
I've just found your video by chance.
Not in my habits, but I feel that I have to respond to a few points.
First, a small thing, but "triennial" means every three years, nothing to do with three seasons.
Then:
Seriously, you didn't plan at all, did you?
Naoshima:
You saw pretty much nothing of the art on Naoshima. And nothing of the island either, did you?
Too expensive? Well, you were there during the Triennale, if you had done your homework, you would have known that if you buy an art pass, for about $50 you can access most of the 206 artworks (on 12 islands, not just two).
There are also a lot of outdoors artworks (that are free 24/7), apparently you missed them all.
Don't get me wrong, do I think some of the artworks (especially those run by Benesse) are a bit too expensive? Yes, I do. But I think they're also totally worth the price. This is a very unique place, in so many ways, and a once in a lifetime experience for many people.
One thing we agree on: hipsters... Yes, Naoshima is becoming a victim of its success. Nowadays, Westerners think they've found this "out of the beaten path secret gem" or something in Naoshima (which is ironic, seeing that it gets about half a million visitors a year), and it's being taken over by backpackers and hipsters. Oh well, there are still 11 other wonderful islands full of amazing landscapes, people and art in the area, we can leave that one to them I guess. And hipsters will soon stop going, it's becoming too mainstream for them.
Teshima Art Museum... Mmmm... We all due respect you're the very first person I've ever heard not loving the place, and not getting it... Oh well, I guess it's not for everyone, you do need to a certain sensibility for those kinds of things. And an open mind... Not sure what to tell you here. If you were expecting fireworks, special effects, or I don't know what really, you were in the wrong place.
And as far as calling everything a rip off, a swindle or a scam... Well, maybe, just maybe if you had done some research about the whole thing, you wouldn't have had whatever expectation you had and would have known what you were getting into. You can't blame the thing here, all is well documented, both prices and what to expect. You can only blame yourself.
Next you wonder about what the locals think... Nice... Maybe you should have tried to interact with them. The people in Karato are some of the nicest people I've ever met. And once again, if you had done some research you would have learned a bit more about... well... everything... Were you were? Why is there an art festival there? What's the link between the art festival and the place and all those sorts of things.
And no, I'm not gonna give you the answers, you'll have to find them. It's a better way to learn. :-)
At least you enjoyed the sunset...
It can be amazing at times, especially in the Fall for some reason (that was Fall, right?)
Tonight, no sunset, it was too cloudy. Oh well.
You said you liked the nature... Well, there's that at least. But seriously, you went all this way to only see two artworks in what? Half a day? (and honestly Ando Museum is probably the least interesting thing on Naoshima)
Sorry I was a bit antagonistic in that comment (I typed as I watched), but I really do think you're being unfair and misinformed on the issue.
Well, you end on a more positive note, and invite us to comment if we know better, so here I am.
And if you want to know what I think of those places, I don't want to do self-promotion here, but I guess if you google my name + naoshima or teshima or setouchi, you'll find a few of the things I wrote.
If you have any specific question, do not hesitate to ask.
Cheers.
Thanks for your detailed reply! And no! Wasn't it obvious that I didn't plan anything? I'm sure I mentioned that at least a couple of times. ;)
No, I didn't know anything about it, I was just... you know, visiting to be visiting. I work on movies and never know when I get a day off, so when I had one, I went out to kill some time. I think there is something to be said for just going out there to see what you can see, I mean, that's how plenty of travelling worked before the internet. (Indeed, I'm old enough to remember hanging out in Europe and rolling into towns without ever needing reservations for a hostel bed... It was great.) I think a lot of good exploration happens without a plan!
This said, what I said was exactly my experience. I know I didn't see anything people go there to see, but that it cannot be done without proper planning is very useful information. (I had never even heard of the festival before my hipster friend made mention of it!) It says a lot about the kind of experience it is and the kind of people best suited for it.
I don't think I called everything a swindle and a scam, and it's a bit silly to imply that I'm not open-minded or lacking in the sensibility to "get it" because I didn't appreciate the Teshima Museum of Art. I just didn't like it and didn't think it was worth the money. What's wrong with that? Have you never seen art that you didn't like? Have you never seen someone else fall in love with a piece of art you thought was rubbish? For me, "Nude Descending a Staircase, No. 2" gets me every time. I could spend hours staring it. For my mom or dad, or even the generally-accepted standards of the time, it's tacky and boring and just a mess.
Sitting in that egg reminded exactly of sitting on the concrete slab that would eventually become the house I grew up in rural Hawaii, down to the breeze and view of the sea. Maybe that means something to you if you're from the big city and think it's worth $15 to sit somewhere where people aren't allowed to use their phones. But I'm not being ridiculous by not accepting the "idea" of it--most of the world's people are very unlikely to see the sense in spending that kind of money to look at nature through a beautiful curve and watch water leak across waxy concrete. (Though, as suggested, the experience is not for everyone...)
I've spent a lot of time at a lot of museums and art spaces throughout the world, and it's my opinion that art shouldn't be exclusive, and by an extension of this, expensive (unless someone is dead and you get to keep it). Indeed, I know I didn't see a lot of the free stuff on Naoshima, either, but Instagram is crawling with photos of people jumping mid-air in front of giant pumpkins. I think we can do better, that's all...
(And you can check out my other art video, if you want, which was the one that prompted my friend to tell me about to go see the islands. Not making any promises that you'll like anything there, though. th-cam.com/video/ucEuyGr1qsE/w-d-xo.html)
And yes, it would have been nice to interact with the locals, and I will say that the festival staff were very lovely and helpful, but you know, it just couldn't be done in a day, and I wasn't inspired enough to spend another day off there.
But thanks again for your thoughts, and also for correcting my mistake in the misuse of "triennial"!
I'll add an aside, just to give you insight in the way I "don't" plan things... My main motivation for going to Teshima was there is a Teshima family in the town where I grew up. They have a super old school Hawaiian-style Japanese restaurant and the beloved family matriarch, Mama Teshima died a few years ago at 106. I made the extra effort to go there only for this silly, irrelevant connection--I wondered if that's where their ancestors came from--and I looked at the art map and said, "Well, the Museum of Art sounds good".
True story.
Don't get me wrong.
You didn't have a great experience, and that's your experience, and it's a valid one.
And you're obviously allowed to not like some artworks.
My issue is more in the way you present the things. Once again, the "rip-off" comment. Is it expensive? Yes. Is it a rip-off? No.
You also make some statements that tend to confuse personal feeling with objective truth, although it's only your experience. You know the whole difference between "it's bad" and "I don't like it."
Also, nothing against not planning. But then afterwards, if the experience is not the one you were expecting, it may not be the location's fault. Maybe that's just me, when I don't plan (and believe, I don't like to plan much) if I don't have a good experience, it's on me. But that's me, I can't impose it on everyone, can I?
In other words, my issue is not your experience, not even what you felt about your experience, but rather the way you present it.
And in the way you edited the video, it's really the parts you shot afterwards, from your home/hotel room. I find them a bit too negative and blaming things that may not be to blame.
I know the feeling. You had a bad experience, you always hear everyone rambling about how great the place is and it's in such contradiction with what you experienced that you want your voice to be heard too.
I totally get it and everyone is guilty of it one day or the other.
The thing is that for these pieces maybe you could have made some research, for example about why the Teshima Art Museum is so special? (beyond liking the artwork or not, it's a very special and unique building, an architectural prowess).
Maybe you could have counterbalanced it with showing the beautiful thing you saw. You show the negative, but don't show the positive, just mention them.
As you said, one of the best traits of the region is not the artworks but the nature. And I totally agree with that (the cover photo on my profile is on Teshima by the way, on the south side). Yet, you don't really show it at all.
Oh well, maybe I'm just too sensitive and reactive on the topic.
Cheers.
Oh la la la... A vlog talking about an art experience which highlights personal feeling over objective truth... Crime of crimes... ;)
I do think the Teshima Art Museum is a rip-off! I doubt I'm the only person to have come to this conclusion, though maybe they were afraid to say so so plainly. But fret not, mine is very much a minority opinion--Trip Advisor will show you thousands of people who thought it was amazing to sit inside a concrete calzone while being monitored by ghostly monitors making sure NO ONE who hasn't gone there in person will ever see the inside of what is actually the whole of the museum (minus some beautiful grounds)...
I simply don't like to support these experiences. To me, it falls into the category of luxury "spiritual" retreats, "new" Kickstarter gadgets which do things a simple fork can do, heirloom tomatoes and Whole Foods (please refer to Agnès Varda's "Les glaneurs et la glaneuse" to know why). And to be fair, you are cherry picking my comments. I tried to be quite careful about what I said, while being as honest as possible, because I knew I would be taking an unpopular position. I did show a lot of nice things: mostly the place itself, the temple, the little streets, the sea, the sea and more of the sea (because island girls always think the sea is beautiful!).
And while I don't support this particular museum, and was underwhelmed by the Ando House (which you understood), I say several times that visiting the area really does require proper planning, if seeing overpriced art with a bunch of hipsters, rich people and exceptionally polite Taiwanese tourists is what blows your hair back. I do support the local places, however, which is why I bothered to get postcards, drinks and ice cream along the way.
It appears you feel very strongly about this, despite giving a real explanation as to WHY I am wrong to think that the Teshima Art Museum is a swindle (implying I don't get it and attacking my planning skills don't really count). Why don't you then make a reaction video and show me exactly what I am missing? That would be very cool.
HI, David. I like your points and some friends had a great time on Naoshima. I will be there on June and I'm planning my trip. Could you share some tips how to optimize it? I will sleep 1 night there and will get the first ferry so i will have 2 entire days to see as many things as possible. Do you recommend get a bike? Did a have to something ahead? Is it easy go from one island to another? Thanks
lesson of the video: plan before you go somewhere
You modern-day travellers are so terribly NON-SPONTANEOUS!
@@mailepointfive there's a difference between being spontaneous and being unprepared. maybe you'll learn it one day. good luck
HAHAHAHAHHAHAA! Thanks, pal!
The art islands set my mind on fire... It reminded me magic still exists in this world. Its disney for adults.
I guess as a Japanese, Naoshima is a complete different place from what you expect. it's not only a place to see art, but they are a whole village development with ideas behind. How art+design helps dying villages. I felt such a miracle to have a village heaven in small islands like that.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Can you tell me a bit about how the local people benefit from these projects? As I explained in my video, I am from Hawaii and this influences how I see tourism development. Are you from this area?
@@mailepointfive Spoiled brat from Hawaii with not an ounce of Aloha . you dismembered the meaning of Pono , your Man is out of . You think You are all Look at my , I am NO KA OI . ... Wahine with nasty disposition is what I see ... Too young to to so jaded ... Shut up for a second and LISTEN TO OTHERS ... You Little spoiled American girl opinions are not the only valid ones
@@varadero5337 Hahahahahaha! Thanks for the comment. Stay aloha!
Hi,
I watched your video two times, before and after visiting Naoshima and Teshima. I would like to say thank you for taking the effort to make such a nice opinionated video about your trip. I think it is good people have different opinions, and it is always really nice to hear different perspectives.
You are right that Teshima art museum is one big space (there are no more spaces). And some people spend hours here and they lose themselves in this space, for others it might be less impressive. And that is perfectly fine. What kind of artworks do you like to see in general?
For the readers that are reading my comment. We rented electric bikes (1000 Yen), and exploring the island on electric bikes was one of the highlight experience. No planning with the bus schedules, just biking to the artworks you have planned to see. The two days we had in Naoshima and Teshima were mesmerizing and unique experiences. I have never been to a place like this. I would recommend it 'heartedly' to every art lover. (that was a 'Les Archives du Cœur' hint)
Best, Trieuvy
Wow! Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment. And for watching my video twice! I had no idea when I made it that people would be so passionate about this topic!
I'm glad that you enjoyed your time there, and I hope my less than positive review gave you some good information for planning your own trip appropriately. (It really sounds like electric bicycles are the way to go and I'm sure that would be fun with all of those hills!)
I think that for me, and I did try to convey in the video, the experience was off-putting in no small way because I grew up in a touristic place. (And I do recognize not everyone will or can have this perspective.) I have complicated feelings about the tourism industry itself, the building of something from nothing just to encourage people to come to you and spend money, and the strange dynamic between visitors and locals (which is largely singular and transactional). It also makes me question the state of the world's progress when people feel so stressed out about life that paying money to sit quietly in a concrete egg to watch water drip is one of the most relaxing or "contemplative" or "transformative" things someone can do. (A sense of reverse snobbery? Yes, perhaps.)
But again, I'm happy it was something different and much better for you than it was from me, and I'm glad that nothing I said deterred you from seeing it for yourself! (That was never my intention, if it wasn't clear.) I don't know so much about the seasons there, but I hope during your two days there you were able to enjoy those amazing skies and sunsets which were really the best part about the place for me. :)
"i did some research later..." lady thats called GOOGLE you should have done your planning before you hit the island if you're gonna be so picky and negative.
You should listen to what is said and read previous comments before chiming in repetitively, particularly when dealing someone you find picky and negative! But thanks for taking the time to leave me a message!
@@mailepointfive who's chiming in repetitively? i think you're delusional
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you did that island wrong, boo
I found teshima art space to be quite transformative. I spent hours in there thinking to myself in the beautiful quiet space with only the sounds of birds. The tab of acid helped too :P
p.s. I actually thought Chichu wasn't worth the 2,060 yen cost, since it only has 4 exhibits. However, that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it, just wouldn't pay that much if I were to do it again. So I'm not knocking your critical opinion, but sometimes planning a bit can help improve the experience ;)
Mahalo Nui for your review. Still think I’ll check it out.
It may help to know the history of the islands and why there is art on them. These were dying communities and some Islands were heavily polluted by industry. I doubt that the locals go into any of the museums but I think the trade off of tourists visiting is that there is still people who can live there year round and have goods and services available. The Islands are better if you
have time to stay overnight and see
multiple sites quite a few of which cost nothing so in the end the cost if the museums is offset by the other experiences. I saw Naoshima and last minute decided not to go to Teshima because of time constraints and Benesse Foundation gave me a refund.
Rip-off is a strong word when there are people who actually who do enjoy the islands.
But it's quite OK for people to enjoy what someone else thinks is a rip-off. I also think that popcorn and soda in the cinema are rip-offs, but lots of others can't watch a movie without them, and that's fine. My opinion is but one. ;)
Hi, i was in Naoshima, nice but not cheap. But you talk and talk so much in this video, sorry. not good
Thanks for watching!
Go to Nakajima island. Just being there was enough for me. I swam in warm ish water only one on the whole beach. Bike around the whole island 3 miles iforget maybe 12 miles. Temple with old antiques, just me.
Thanks for the tip!
What other art have you seen in other parts of the world? Please fill all of us in...
Well, I've definitely not seen all of it, but I've been to many of the major museums of the world, having lived and worked in London, Paris, Beijing, Taipei, LA, New York, Boston and London, and spending time in some 30-odd countries. I generally like to go to museums (not just for art, but really for anything, especially history). I started studying art as a kid (just normal classes kids take, mostly painting--I am not particularly gifted in this regard), then in high school (mostly 3D art, particularly fond of sculpture and metal work), then at university, where I had most of the fundamental courses you take for visual arts (I studied filmmaking), plus extra classes in dadaism and surrealism, darkroom photography, and more metal work. I wouldn't say that I'm a great visual artist, but my theory is solid pretty solid. I have worked as a photo editor for a news agency (again, not fine art, but do I understand composition, framing, contrast, the connection between shape, object and meaning? Very likely). Likewise, I do work in the film industry, and have passed thousands of hours sitting with some of the world's greatest film directors, working with images as they are being produced, and then again with the footage in the can, in its smallest, most boring detail. I understand well how image, language, and sound go together, and have a good instinct for tempo, timing, pitch and pacing. (This is in my specific role on a film production, not as a director myself. I only work in a support role.) Given my work, I also know a lot of artists and socialize with people who work in galleries, and do things like invite their friends to openings.
I don't mind that you don't agree with me, and I appreciate you asking me to explain more about my own background. Given your comment, I am going to assume that you yourself are an expert of art, and thus understand the subjective nature of any relationship between viewer and object. Perhaps you might like to share why you think the art islands are really the cat's meow, after all?
I hate art but enjoyed the Island a lot. Lived in a small place where the owner loved a Korean movie star. I don’t remember the name but the food there was the best ever.
greetings from NYC. Just got back from Naoshima myself.
Just saw your video! Nice aerial footage! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for an honest review. I really appreciate this video. I know you got a lot of hate for making this but I just wish more reviewers were like you than like they are now, calling everything the best thing since sliced bread.
Thanks for the kind comment! Yes, I didn't expect all the hate, but so it goes. ;)
Expensive? had a day out there for less than $100. Including renting electric bikes to ride around the island. Teshima was slightly disappointing with only 1 thing to see, but i found that one thing a great experience. Maybe that ticket should've been cheaper.
But rip off? Please. Japan is the country where you WON'T be ripped off. Unless you go to golden gai or some dodgy bars in shinbjuku/roppongi.
thanks for the video! definitely interesting to hear your opinions, and appreciate your authentic views and honesty. Does gives us some perspectives especially when we are considering a visit to both islands, in terms of our expectations and the amount of time we wish to spend at the islands! A pity though that you couldnt spend more time in Noashima, would have loved to see what else there was on the island.
Thanks! And thanks for taking the time to write.
I went to Naoshima about three years ago, I work in architecture so my comment is inherently biased. My experience in the island, first I didn't rely on the bus, I drove around in an electric bike and managed to move about the island pretty well. You have to return the bike prior to sunset and yes there are a few roads you cannot ride on, apart from that I was aware of the scheduling but again my mission was to see every single Ando building I could in a day, and I was able to squeeze in almost every musuem, except for the one you went to, which I avoided for the reason you didn't like, note anytime you go to an architect's museum/residence/studio/memorial know you're entering a small space, it's not a rule but that's what generally happens.The whole experience is quite spiritual, I even had time to squeeze in a splash in the ocean, dinner and a quick time in the hot spring before the last ferry back to Uno. My biggest regret was not spending the night, I'm actually planning to revisit and I came across your video trying to see if anyone has any video reviews of the hotel at one of the museums haha 😂 I will be honest I gave your video a thumbs down because I wouldn't go as far as calling it a scam or a tourist trap, I think it's a catered-to destination and therefore not for everyone.
and to add to the last part before I get the whole internet jumping on me, it's okay that you didn't like it! That's what I meant by it's not for everyone.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply! I'm glad you DID find it a worthy and valuable experience, even spiritual. (Different strokes for different folks, indeed!) Did you manage to track down the Ando buildings in Osaka? Also, if you've not seen it, I have a video about the Shoji Ueda Museum of Photography. The building was also designed by Ando. th-cam.com/video/Qo62Y-DfXNw/w-d-xo.html
No worries about the thumbs down. I think you know that a thumbs down is as good as a thumbs up on TH-cam, so the interaction is appreciated. ;) Enjoy your next visit!
Lol! I have been to Nao-shima 7-8 times and still haven’t been to Teshima.
OH I GET IT ...you are an artist that likes to criticized other artist because your own work is Superior?
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Naoshima and Teshima is beatiful Art i land!! I like there . It's not scam 😭😭
I like the pumpkins there... But seams like not my kind of place at all.
It's very pretty there, this cannot be disputed. However, I will maintain that the vibe is not for everyone and it really is super expensive for what you get. A friend of mine--the same friend who told me about it, in fact--was just there and told me she had a great time. She went to Naoshima for one day and one night, saw two or three museums, biked around, took photos with the pumpkins, and then had a great dinner with an local grandpa who insisted on paying (there were two of them travelling there). But, when I asked her, in light of this endorsement, if I should give it a second chance (she saw my video), she said "no". ;)
I think a lot of people like it there, but again, not for everyone. If you do ever make it out there, I'd be happy to hear your take on it. :)
mailepointfive you can bet I'll probably will be there sooner or later. I really liked the video, first I saw of yours; gonna subscribe. As for me liking it there however; I'm more the National Forest/Park type, the go see a little village 1000 miles from home type, the spend the day flyfishing for native fish and going to the local markets type, and the go be out on the streets and explore type. Been years since I was in Japan, I loved it. I like The Villages and the gardens and the food. Kyoto was amazing; too many tourist but I mean I guess I was contributing to that by being there. I loved the fashion there. For whatever reason I'm a guy who loves to see what women wear, and Kyoto is very fashionable; I don't know why, like looking at flower arrangements for me I guess. I loved Japan, however I loved old Japan and the modern technology that made the life there so cool, not all the craziness. In my opinion there's a little too much kitschy stuff, it makes a introvert like me feel a bit overwhelmed. I could have done without the constant wanting to touch my hair (sand brown from the sun, i.e. blonde there, and thick with loose curls and calic). At the same time I liked the female attention I got there; was mostly subtle, some very much not and made me blush; I guess everybody likes being exotic fruit.
If you do make it out there, plan it so you can get to some of the other islands, too. Outside of these art places, it's mostly very wild with great views of the sea.
I love your view that "art shouldn't be that expensive", and then showing some examples of street art which anyone can enjoy. That inspires me to make a similar video for Beijing. ^_^
I think I meant that art shouldn't be that expensive when you can't take it home... (Seriously, it doesn't even cost that much to see the Mona Lisa...)
There is a ton of stuff we could cover in Beijing...
helpful video. I didn't know this museum at all now I do. My only issue is that you and many others find it cool to hate on 'hipsters'. How are you different? Everyone likes the touristy places for the same reasons obviously and everyone has a right to be there. idk it bothers me people like you seem bummed out about a touristy location being.. touristy?
Anyways despite your critiques I am actually really interested in going whenever it's possible.
I'm happy that you liked the video and discovered a new place. If you've seen my other videos, you will know that I'm not cool, and am well aware of it. There's a big difference between disliking a place because it's touristy and disliking it because it's a hipster tourist trap. I have no problem with being a tourist when the site has some great or unusual historic or cultural or natural value. The Great Wall of China, the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre or the Empire State Building, and well-known places like those, are all worth queuing up for, paying for a ticket and spending some time at with hundreds of other people. They are tourist sites for a reason! Likewise, if some little mom and pop museum wants to charge two or three euros to see the world's largest button collection, that's fine, too. There's no pretense. BUT I think the less appealing thing with hipster culture generally, and these kinds places (or restaurants or clubs or whatever), is that it's just a bit shallow. Everything is so highly manufactured while also attempting to be counter-cultural, and you pay through the nose for it. It just seems insincere, and if you don't buy into, people who don't really know very much about art will accuse you of being not clever enough to get it. (I'm not saying this of all modern or conceptual art, or contemporary cuisine, but it's a pretty consistent theme with many things considered "hipster.") This said, those islands are very beautiful, with or without the museums. Go check it out for yourself. My opinion is just one.
@@mailepointfive That makes sense, it's was a honest question. I see these video's a lot where people complain about tourists, instagram models and whatever other audience. Which I simply don't understand, everyone has the right to visit the places just as much as we do.
Your reaction makes sense and I realise now reading my own comment it could come off as unfriendly which is lame. My apologies and I did enjoy the video.
:)
@@nvanderjagt4150 No need to apologize. I'm always happy to engage a thoughtful comment. :) Thank you for bothering to follow up. Let me know how it goes when you do finally make it to the islands!
Hi. I totally get your thoughts about Naoshima. This is a tourist trap with some rip off prices. There are some fantastic parts to the island and some great art but ultimately we also felt ripped off. Westerners have spoilt this place. As soon as someone mentioned to us “hipster” on the ferry over, we wanted to turn back! Help!
I think the island may have become a victim of its success or simply this is what a town feels like when run by artists and hipsters. However, Naoshima is quite a special place with incredible sunrises, sunsets and coastline.
The place did struggle to cope with visitors, as we found on our trip on one of the hottest days, and almost every cafe closed! Maybe this is the strategy to keep the swarms of Westerners away.
Thanks for leaving a note. After a string of rather harsh comments (peppered with a few fair ones, as well), it's nice to hear from someone who knew where I was coming from. ;)
click bait. smdh
Rubbish. Why are you shaking your dumb head? The video adequately delivers on the premise. You don't have to like the content, but don't be so reductionist. Click bait is like when you show cleavage on the thumbnail and then fail to deliver the goodies. Or when you claim a video is a full-length film, but really it's like 5 minutes on a loop forever. Please be precise in your language. Others are watching.
Also, thank you for commenting.
swindel? what is swindel? maybe the German word SCHwindel? ;)
So damn ignorant like your point of view on art!
btw the island is great. Nice art, nice architecture and beautiful nature. But most important the way how these 3 elements harmonize.
lapeno3 The word, in English, is swindle. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
ah ... I am sorry very sorry, I got you wrong .... :)
and yes, they do have "a kind" of connection to this place. And what do you mean by "... it left me with this iiiiihhhh feeling". Could you please try to explain your feelings?
Have you read the previous discussion I had with David Billa below? I explain a lot of my thoughts in more detail there. Let me know if this does not answer your question.