I do have a certain affection for Clive Anderson (mainly for facilitating that wonderful Peter Cook appearance) But Benn absolutely runs rings around him here in terms of both his wit and wonderfully humble sense of humour. He really highlights the vacuousness of the particular line of questioning exhibited on these types of chat show. What a delight. A sorely missed soul and absolute inspiration.
From an era when being a Leftie was an honourable position. Mainly due to having people like Benn leading. The left is ridiculous these days, you're generation were the last sensible version of the Left.
@@mattruzh8470 I didn’t say I agree with what he was advocating, but he was a different level of quality in politician than any of the muppets we have today in either party.
@@mattruzh8470 Tony Benn was elected to public office 31 times; he was an author, an intellectual and a man of great personal and moral courage. But you, (who has done what exactly?) say he was "wrong in all areas". I'm not saying you shouldn't have an opinion, but given his status and your lack of it, you might at least back your statement up with the semblance of an argument. For instance, why was he wrong about Trident? What on earth has Trident done for anybody except US arms companies and their bottom line?
+ howdj Of course the electoral system doesn't care about that; it's SPECIFICALLY designed to not care about that because it overrides the votes. Also...it has no emotions and therefore...doesn't care about anything. The host however, is a human and therefore, CAN and SHOULD care about that. Because, by omitting that fact, he INTENTIONALLY IMPLIED that the Labour party was VOTED OUT BY THE PEOPLE who had benefited from the Labour party's leadership. Which subliminally suggested that the Labour party's leadership was unappreciated and rejected by the voters. It's actually a perfect example of how Corporatist Doublespeak is consistently used to delegitimize the successes of the truly Liberal Labour party.
Good point - I was discussing this a while ago and we were wondering why Labour didn't win in 1951 after what the 1945 Lab Gov achieved - never realised they got more votes.
Whether you agree or disagree with him you can't deny he is a formidable political and intellectual force. Same as Mrs thatcher and benn, both said what they believe and believe what they said.
Well, we did have someone with very similar political views as leader of the Labour Party, and with a real chance of being PM. But then the British establishment, & their big media lackeys in particular, decided they were having none of it. He was constantly smeared and undermined and ultimately forced out. I agree with you that we need more politicians like Tony Benn. Trouble is, even if and when we have them, there's no chance - the forces of darkness are too entrenched in this country.
Anderson was always a man who didn't take anything seriously. Genuinely comedic people take life very seriously. As you say, a pillock, not a comedian.
I recall watching Benn being interviewed by Willian Buckley the creepy, slimey American. Buckley would Bulley his interviewee with facts, but Benn wiped d the floor with him repeatedly. It's on TH-cam.
Tony was right though, because in effect it was precisely because that lack of democratic accountability that caused the uk to vote to leave Europe years later!!
It's an amazing number isn't it but think how many he was getting around the years 1979-83 in the prime of his career . It must have been an astonishing number !
I never said that, I'm merely suggesting that the word free is being used when its not free in the slightest, its free if you don't pay tax but for the rest of the people it is not free. The tax payer over pays for these services as we have to pay bureaucrats and non tax payers as well as the service. Free is a word that the left like to use when its clearly not the case that these services are free.
You basically said it's unfair that those who don't pay taxes (which I assume was mostly aimed at people who can't afford to pay them) get to access to health care and policing that they don't pay for so I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption to make
Who said it's free to those who don't pay taxes? The NHS was set up as system supported by the tax payer, not a charity. It's written in it's 1948 manifesto leaflet sent through the door of every British Citizen. It's not an issue of being "free" but rather as an institution owned by the people, not the private sector. It's "free" in the sense that you don't receive a bill or invoice for use of the service. Everybody contributes to its existence through taxes. The system props all of society up, regardless of their class. Are completely privatised public services which only the wealthy can enjoy the benefits of, "fair"? Do we really have to debate whether public ownership is "fair" or not?
Me, i said it, its surely obvious! If you don't pay tax and never have paid tax the NHS is completely free to you this is undebatable!! I can't believe you would suggest that public ownership being unfair is not up for debate, thats just a ludicrous statement to make, the most obvious starting point being the former soviet union! Was this a fair society in your opinion? Almost every industry was state owned! Im not naive enough to think capitalism is perfect but i know id rather live in a society were there is freedom of capital rather than being slave to the state! State ownership is in itself a total monopoly, if the state owns the railways then its illegal for anyone to come along and compete, therefore the state can charge as it wants and if its a poor service (which it will be) you can't go anywhere else! Is that fair? I could go on and on and on. Public ownership v private ownership is the very essence of political discourse, i can't believe someone would say that this isn't up for debate!!!
Tony Benn A genuine Human being who truly cared about humanity 🙏 RIP beautiful soul thanks for caring 🌹🙏
Love Clive and his wit but gosh... he is reduced to ashes in the presence of Tony Benn. What a man
He was, and so often on that show his jokes evinced an element of distaste.
Who wouldn’t be? Remember the days of intellectual MPs.
Brilliant man. (Tony Benn).
Tony Benn was a giant. RIP.
I do have a certain affection for Clive Anderson (mainly for facilitating that wonderful Peter Cook appearance)
But Benn absolutely runs rings around him here in terms of both his wit and wonderfully humble sense of humour.
He really highlights the vacuousness of the particular line of questioning exhibited on these types of chat show.
What a delight. A sorely missed soul and absolute inspiration.
tony benn my hero
Mine too.
And mine , along with Tesla and Hitchens
i wish him and his wife could have lived forever
My hero and I am old 60yr leftie
Lefties fight for British workers…
From an era when being a Leftie was an honourable position. Mainly due to having people like Benn leading.
The left is ridiculous these days, you're generation were the last sensible version of the Left.
Always enjoyed Clive Anderson & think he's an intelligent man... but Tony Benn was razor sharp.
A very honourable sound human being.
The best prime minister Britain never had. Oh how we need someone of his calibre and integrity, now!
An astonishing man, politician and speaker (TB not CA)
Benn was a brilliant politician, and an inspirational man.
Clearly wrong in all areas, including Trident.
@@mattruzh8470 I didn’t say I agree with what he was advocating, but he was a different level of quality in politician than any of the muppets we have today in either party.
@@mattruzh8470 Tony Benn was elected to public office 31 times; he was an author, an intellectual and a man of great personal and moral courage. But you, (who has done what exactly?) say he was "wrong in all areas". I'm not saying you shouldn't have an opinion, but given his status and your lack of it, you might at least back your statement up with the semblance of an argument. For instance, why was he wrong about Trident? What on earth has Trident done for anybody except US arms companies and their bottom line?
...and a Hamas supporter
@@michaeldavies7949 who doesn’t like Humous. Chop up some carrots and peppers etc
“6 years later they voted you out again” Actually, in the 1951 general election Labour won more votes, even though the Tories won more seats.
LRC And the electoral system doesn't care about that. It's about seats, not gross votes.
+ howdj
Of course the electoral system doesn't care about that; it's SPECIFICALLY designed to not care about that because it overrides the votes. Also...it has no emotions and therefore...doesn't care about anything.
The host however, is a human and therefore, CAN and SHOULD care about that. Because, by omitting that fact, he INTENTIONALLY IMPLIED that the Labour party was VOTED OUT BY THE PEOPLE who had benefited from the Labour party's leadership. Which subliminally suggested that the Labour party's leadership was unappreciated and rejected by the voters.
It's actually a perfect example of how Corporatist Doublespeak is consistently used to delegitimize the successes of the truly Liberal Labour party.
howdj what a stupid response. The fact is he said "people voted you out" and they didn't. More people voted Labour.
Good point - I was discussing this a while ago and we were wondering why Labour didn't win in 1951 after what the 1945 Lab Gov achieved - never realised they got more votes.
Which might go to show that PR would be a good thing.
Love Tony Benn.
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Magnificent work!
Please keep up the uploads!
Very much appreciated!
Brilliant. Anderson owned...
I don't mind Clive Anderson actually, but its a fools errand to even try and keep up with a man like Tony Benn, even in his later years!
💕Tony Benn 💕
Probably the most likeable politician we've ever had.......shits on farage
sadly still relevant today including trident :/
What a wonderful Prime Minister this great great man would have been ....I don't mean Clive Anderson by the way.
You have to be a paychopath to be a prime minister. Don't people realise that by now?
What's a paycopath ?
@@a_wise_young_man752 Attlee wasn’t, and he was the greatest of them.
Tony Benn.
+Seedaripper1973 well spotted
Where?
Whether you agree or disagree with him you can't deny he is a formidable political and intellectual force. Same as Mrs thatcher and benn, both said what they believe and believe what they said.
God rest him. May we see his like again. He will have a place of honour in the kingdom of God come the resurrection. His children, not so much.
He would of been prime minister in 2017
Bit judgemental on God's behalf. Agree with you about Tony Benn, sir though.
@@peterf08 highly doubtful. Did you mean 1987?
he had a very healthy view of politics. we need more of him, and less career politicians.
Correct, its a shame really
@@peterf08 he'd be turning in his grave if he could see what's been going on over the past 500 days, and what's to come.
Well, we did have someone with very similar political views as leader of the Labour Party, and with a real chance of being PM. But then the British establishment, & their big media lackeys in particular, decided they were having none of it. He was constantly smeared and undermined and ultimately forced out. I agree with you that we need more politicians like Tony Benn. Trouble is, even if and when we have them, there's no chance - the forces of darkness are too entrenched in this country.
Benn 3 - Anderson 0
Clive Anderson is a pillock here.
Anderson was always a man who didn't take anything seriously. Genuinely comedic people take life very seriously. As you say, a pillock, not a comedian.
28th November 1991
Anderson is like a wee kid. Fair play to him though, he kept his humour and was alright.
I recall watching Benn being interviewed by Willian Buckley the creepy, slimey American. Buckley would Bulley his interviewee with facts, but Benn wiped d the floor with him repeatedly. It's on TH-cam.
Thanks. I'll go search for that. I think I watched him with Hitchens. 🤔
Tony was right though, because in effect it was precisely because that lack of democratic accountability that caused the uk to vote to leave Europe years later!!
25000 letters a year must be a record!
It's an amazing number isn't it but think how many he was getting around the years 1979-83 in the prime of his career . It must have been an astonishing number !
He responded to my letter
Benn would have backed Brexit
Tone was the best.
were out now tony, dont worry :)
Hark back to the days of intellectual MPs
Anderson destroyed right there.
Ha ha imagine a referendum on Europe what a ridiculous idea!
Clive was taught a lesson by tony benn
Anderson is about as funny as a dose of the pox.
Clive is clearly no match for the great man!
4:49 Why wasn't he PM?
conspiracy by the tory press.
What a snide operator Clive Anderson is. Only two words Clive: Bee Gees.
So the Police are free Tony? You should take a look at my council tax bill and its breakdown. They aint free!!!
They don't charge you when they come out though, do they. That's the entire point of tax.
wait till they 'privatise' them. watch 'A little bit of Fry and Laurie' hilarious piss-take.
Go live in woods if don't wanna be in a society and see how get on
Tony Benn on great form. The leftists in the comments as per usual cannot handle comedy.
Tony Benn was a leftist you dumbarse. do some fucking research before spewing your rhetoric bullshit.
Free health care, free policing?? Really? Its only free to those who don't pay taxes. Is that fair??
You think the police shouldn't do anything for people who can't afford to pay them for it?
I never said that, I'm merely suggesting that the word free is being used when its not free in the slightest, its free if you don't pay tax but for the rest of the people it is not free. The tax payer over pays for these services as we have to pay bureaucrats and non tax payers as well as the service. Free is a word that the left like to use when its clearly not the case that these services are free.
You basically said it's unfair that those who don't pay taxes (which I assume was mostly aimed at people who can't afford to pay them) get to access to health care and policing that they don't pay for so I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption to make
Who said it's free to those who don't pay taxes?
The NHS was set up as system supported by the tax payer, not a charity.
It's written in it's 1948 manifesto leaflet sent through the door of every British Citizen.
It's not an issue of being "free" but rather as an institution owned by the people, not the private sector.
It's "free" in the sense that you don't receive a bill or invoice for use of the service. Everybody contributes to its existence through taxes. The system props all of society up, regardless of their class.
Are completely privatised public services which only the wealthy can enjoy the benefits of, "fair"?
Do we really have to debate whether public ownership is "fair" or not?
Me, i said it, its surely obvious! If you don't pay tax and never have paid tax the NHS is completely free to you this is undebatable!!
I can't believe you would suggest that public ownership being unfair is not up for debate, thats just a ludicrous statement to make, the most obvious starting point being the former soviet union! Was this a fair society in your opinion? Almost every industry was state owned!
Im not naive enough to think capitalism is perfect but i know id rather live in a society were there is freedom of capital rather than being slave to the state!
State ownership is in itself a total monopoly, if the state owns the railways then its illegal for anyone to come along and compete, therefore the state can charge as it wants and if its a poor service (which it will be) you can't go anywhere else! Is that fair? I could go on and on and on.
Public ownership v private ownership is the very essence of political discourse, i can't believe someone would say that this isn't up for debate!!!
Very interesting man just a shame that his thinking on the EU has helped push us to the situation we are in now