We can finally feel confident with Woller and Stoller between the posts and Hildebeest didn't have a great debut but he's been doing well for the Marlies, so he'll come around with more experience. Feels a lot better than the coin flip on whether or not Samsonov would stand on his head or be shaky
This past draft was at The Vegas Sphere. Knights players were doing autograph sessions. Logan Thompson learned that he had been traded to The Capitals just before his autograph session. Thompson did it and that was his last act as a Vegas Golden Knight. I figured that if Thompson did well, he would get the #1 GK slot with The Capitals.
@@JapaneseAmericanaJiuJitsu I wouldn't get sentimental over Blackwood or Granlund. Grier probably realizes this is the last possible chance he'll have to scalp assets before the Sharks turn the corner from selling team to ascending team. He'll sell at the deadline and try and get one final top pick in Schaefer or Misa.
@@Gufrion37 Yea he's been surprisingly decent this year. With a more fundamental system around him compared to last year his play has been really good. He'll be excellent if he gets a move to a contender.
I think goalie coaches are a huge part of a team's success. The same teams keep getting new goalies who have had success elsewhere and they just start playing terribly. Then the goalies go elsewhere and have success again. Ottawa, Pittsburgh, and Edmonton come to mind. You can argue that it's the structure in front of the goalies but it just seems to keep happening even when the players on the team change.
Dustin Schwartz (Oilers goaltending coach) is definitely a problem in Edmonton. Many fans have asked him to not be the goaltending coach anymore. He teaches the same bad habits to every goaltender he gets his hands on. They all end up playing the same horrible style
@@GG-ng6zm Goals saved above expected is supposed to account for that. There's a pattern here that goes beyond the defence. I would agree that having poor defence in front of you still hurts GSAA though. A good defence will force shots from the outside which will still count towards a goalies GSAA.
I can't decide if what I just watched is more of a true oasis for the mind and soul or a portal to endless laughter and fun. Either way, your contributions will not go unnoticed, Shannon. I'm happy with our tandem, maybe Reimer can be the new Craig Anderson for us.
If you are looking for another topic to fill a quiet time in the NHL schedule, what about predicting one player from each NHL team who would (should?) be the next (first?) to have his number retired by each team. For example, is there anyone alive who doubts that Ovechkin will have his #8 retired by Washington, or Sidney Crosby's #87 by Pittsburgh? I'd love to know what your list would look like!
@@Zurrkenot necessarily. Like for the Blues, it’s very likely at least a couple of their Stanley Cup winners will get their numbers retired, but a lot of fans from other teams won’t consider them the best players in the league right now.
Considering goalies having played at least 10 games this season, of the top 10 in sv%, there are no 1st round picks, and as many undrafted goalies as 2nd round picks. One of those 2nd rounders, in 5 seasons, has posted a .933, .892, .931, .899, and is sitting at .923 so far this season. It's fairly well established that goalies are unpredictable and weird, and it's quite common for success in lower leagues to never translate to the NHL, and guys who fly under the radar often end up doing well when they get the chance. Heck, there are only two active goalies with two Vezina trophies, and one of them was undrafted (the other was picked in the 5th round, for what it's worth).
I like GSAx but I prefer GSAx per 60, or at least mentioning it. If you have two players who are +3 GSAx but one played 3 games and the other has played 30 games, the former is averaging +1 GSAx per 60 while the latter is only averaging 0.1. Of course 3 games tells you less because it's a small sample size, but I do like getting a larger amount of information.
The Avs defense is also just atrocious. Leaving guys wide open in front of the net, just letting the goalie get peppered. Defense improves, goaltending improves.
@@soulknife20I agree which is funny because bednar said after the first 5 games they really wanted to focus on defense yet last night they decided not to play good defense at all vs one of the best offensive teams in the league. There’s been several games (I’d see this last year too) where the players just leave the goalie out to dry some games no matter who’s in net
@@jasonkashefi8241Yup. Last night, Prime Roy would have gotten smoked. Any goalie short of like Hellebuyck isn't going to have a good time in net with the Avs
I honestly dont get the chance to watch many games, let alone Avs games, but I have to ask, is Cale Makar good as a Defensive Defence man? Or is he far more geared to being an Offensive Dman, not hating just curious.
@avah3643 He is a good defenseman. He is having a down year. But he can't be on the ice for 60 minutes. Just no way. He's already playing close to 25 minutes a game. He does score points. But he's also a good defenseman as well.
Blackwood has been lights out in SJ considering the teams he's played behind. I saw Devils fans saying you can never trust Blackwood, hasn't been a problem yet
I was actually just chatting about this the other day with my dad, and made the same exact points about GAA and wins (and, to a somewhat lesser extent save percentage) being not so great for comparing goalies. With goalies and defense, in a lot of ways, I still feel the eyeball test is more helpful than actual stats, because stats tend to treat all shots the same, and don't account for difficulty of the save (I know some advance stats do, but those also require subjective value judgments, and they sort of become an attempt to quantify the eyeball test at that point), how their defense is playing in front of them, or the fact that a goalie who stops 9/10 has a better save percentage than a goalie who stops 26/30, but that latter goalie was getting peppered and fatigue becomes a lot more of a factor.
Awesome breakdown! Ppl get their nickers in a twist over adv. stats, and while not perfect, they easily beat any other statistic (especially the dreaded eye test ughh) The reason this statisticsl analysis is soo needed is because soo often fans will confuse the form of a goalie pair with the defensive structure&ability of a team.
Constructive criticism: would love to have the board closer to the camera or things be larger. It’s hard to read some of the items especially as it goes to the right and is further from camera. Thanks!
As a knight fan hill has found his game lately what hurts him rn is his bad first two weeks where he let 4 in every start but hes been really good outside of that caines game where he got lit up 5 goals
The Flyers' goaltending numbers can certainly crater. With the revolving door on defense right now and with no ability to get into the offensive zone for large stretches, those goalies numbers will fall further. They have a young guy over in Russia right now that is extremely exciting, it will be a while, but if he pans out it would be fantastic.
"Oilers have goaltending problems, wake me up when they don't" -Guy in 2016 says, goes to sleep Guy from 2016 wakes up in 2024 "Why on Earth did you not wake me up in 8 years??.........Oh, I see, nevermind" I know some of this is on the defense too. Which is also an ongoing problem
So when do the Sens start looking at training and conditioning? It's a little odd that goalies can't stop a beachball when playing here, but play better when moving on to other teams (Gustavsson, Talbot, Korpisalo, etc).
Thanks for the video! Amazing how well the Blackhawks goalies are doing given their basement dwelling. I think the Kraken just might move up into a playoff spot on the back of Daccord. He's been really great. There's a separate circle in whatever serves as the opposite of Dante's Inferno Hell for Hellebuyck. Canes got the depth between the pipes to make a playoff run. It's impressive how many teams have multiple goalies with winning stats that surprise you who they play for. Ducks, Blackhawks, Sharks? Sell the Zamboni, Hell has frozen over!
For the Blues, I honestly think about three games blew up the goalie numbers. For example, the last 3 goals vs the Caps, it looked like most of the team had given up. For most of the games, the goalies have been fine, though not nearly as good as last year. My hope is that Monty does not go with the same game plan of let’s let the goalie tire out the other team by making 10-15 first period saves, and then once the other team is really exhausted, shoot the puck.
I’m happy that Buffalo is giving Levi more time in Rochester instead of trying to force the situation. Reimer looked good, hopefully that continues. I am pleasantly surprised by Upie the last two years, he has vastly improved from when he started
Worth noting that Rittich was about average until a poor performance in San Jose yesterday. Not at all an issue with the stat, but definitely an overnight change in how our goaltending is viewed.
goaltending really isn't Torontos problem in the playoffs unless the goalies are expected to shutout every game. It's the not being able to score enough that has been the issue.
@@ianhall6614 This is very true but goaltending does make a difference over the course of a series maybe the Leafs might be able to have a goalie that can make the difference like when Sammy let in that pasta shot in OT last spring. Maybe we can get the timely saves now. In every series the other goalie has been better perhaps the Leafs can finally have the better goalie who can keep them in the game so they can find that one goal more than the other team to pull the series out know what i mean. Extra big save or 2 right when needed most.
Happy for Lankinen👍 Reminds me of Bryzgalov but without the insanity. Love those goalies on bad teams that battle & are steady while getting peppered. Also are back ups more coveted than ever?
If you're gonna talk about Hildeby, you should give Akhtyamov an honourable mention. He's been outplayed Denis on the Marlies, and it's not like Hildeby has slowed down either. Including Murray, all of the Leafs top 5 goalies are over .900.
All things considered I am quite happy with those goalie stats for Flyers. Yes they are all negative, but not as bad as might of been expected and generally seem to be trending in the right direction. I don't think we will be in the market for a goalie. We want to fully evaluate the current three this season and have Zavragin in the wings who is due to come through in the next 2/3 seasons as part of our rebuild!
What is the benchmark for comparison, such that a goalie would be at +-0.00 goals expected? A comparison against historical average save percentage based on the different types of shot quality (high-danger, 5-alarm, etc)? Based on this list, most goalies are above 0.00, some of which are way above. On average, the league's goalies are well above that neutral 0.00 mark, which means goalies are playing better than this expected benchmark. Having said that, this metric offers a good comparison for goalies this season in a relative sense! Just curious if someone knows that answer.
I've been very pleasantly surprised how good Detroit's goaltending has been. I thought it was going to be a huge weakness this year, but it's been our biggest strength. Our offense and defense, aside from Seider and Edvinsson, has been bad. Johansson and Holl had a pretty good game last time out though. Petry and Chiarot are just godawful though.
Without a cross-reference as to how many shots have been faced by a given goaltender, these stats have limited function. For instance, the fact that Montembeault is even above water in this stat is miraculous. He gets shot to pieces every single game, much like Blackwood and Dostal. There is also the exposure question. Andersen at 6.81 versus Kochetkov at 3.62? How many games has Andersen played? 6? Kochetkov has carried the Canes this year, but the offense needs to be factored in. Earlier I quoted the stat that measures how much time a team spends in their offensive zone while a given defenseman was in the game. The CAR defensemen were ALL at 60% or above. That affects the goalie big time...Speaking of CAR, yes, they need another 1B goaltender...If ANA falls off the horse, Gibson moves. I think Soderblum moves out of CHI. With JimMont in STL now, Binnington's days there may be numbered. If SJS moves anybody it'll be Vanacek, but I still see SJS as a late blooming contender this year. Go ahead and laugh. The Sharks are getting it figured out. And I think Connor Ingram seriously needs out of Salt Lake. He's way better than that. He's just had a loser team around him for so long. Gibson to COL? I don't think so. Nobody is good enough for the Avs. You could dig up Gordie Howe, resurrect him with bionic limbs, and Avs fans would still be pissed. (Parents, don't let your kids drink Coors.) CAR? Who wants to play there? Not saying it's bad, but there are an astonishing number of NHL contracts featuring NTCs with Raleigh on it...All of the contenders seem to be set with the exceptions of VAN, LAK, CAR, and OTT. OTT just needs a better backline...But the NHL never does anything that I expect, so - there's that...
Holland screwed up the Oilers in not drafting a goalie. They had a chance to get Cossa before Wings drafted him. Skinner is a bust to be a #1 goalie. Pickled was a waiver pickup that does a decent job if put in the backup role.
Based upon these stats it's obvious that Edmonton and Colorado need upgrades. Cup finalist last year and a really talented team that can't get over the hump, generally due to injuries. Any team that has a goalie to spare can ask for a bunch in return to make those two teams better. Would love to see the Sharks send either Vanecek or Blackwood on (since both are UFA) to get something better back. Assuming of course that Askarov pans out and is the goalie of the future. But, would either the Oilers or Avalanche bite?
@@soulknife20bro, theyre not gonna play good D every game in November. the underlying stats will tell you Avs give up less than the average team in the league, theyre #13 in xGA- dead last in actual goals against and sv%
@@Nathanielhiggerson66They don't pass the eye test. I've watched all 22 games. And they have lapses at the worst possible time. They end up screening their own goalie or just leaving guys in front of the net for tip ins. They don't clear rebounds. The games where Georgie or Juice were good? Great defense.
@@soulknife20 fair I’ll give that to you- they do have lapses. but the way people phrase it is like they have the worst defence in the league when in fact theyre no worse than the Canes 5v5 and very close to Dallas. Its once they go down a man, they can’t get a save. Manson has been horrible, bad timing with penalties and always out of position.
I fail to understand why NSH didn't sign Lankinen but traded for Wedgewood. So... there is two contenders (EDM, COL) and at least one pretender (LAK) in need of an upgrade in net. On the other side there is Gibson (who has cap space to take him on?), Blackwood, Mrazek and as a 1B option Soderbloom. Interesting situation.
I wouldn't mind seeing Husso go to a team that needs a back-up or is willing to gamble on him. He's been injured practically is whole time in Detroit and when he was "healthy" the team in front of him wasn't making him look great. Honestly don't know where he's at skill wise if he can stay healthy and shake off the rust, but he seems like a prime reclamation project for a team willing to take a gamble.
eat half, send him to the canes for jesper fast. fast, i believe, is on LTIR and not coming off anytime soon, so you're basically losing half husso's cap hit for no return.
Longtime Bruins fan. The worst part of the Swayman contract cluster is that the weasel Sweeney will still be on the payroll after Swayman's contract is dumped.
Watching Bobrosky over the years, consistency is odd. He will have a good year followed by a bad year. The year between his Vezina trophies was a down year. I've also seen him switch everything up mid-season or right at the playoffs. As much as I love Bob, was kind of hoping they would move him over the summer, while he had really high trade value. The Panthers currently have 14.5 million tied up in cap space for two goaltenders.They could have kept Stolarz and still have Knight for the future and Driedger for insurance. Hindsight seems 20/20, but I was saying this since the end of last season.
Johansson is most definitely hurting Tampa. Vasy’s numbers take a nosedive when he’s overplayed, and Johansson being that terrible is forcing Tampa to play Vasy 65+ games. They desperately need a backup goalie in case any injuries happen
Both CBJ goalies are playing like their Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde; they look great at times, then have a 3-5 shot stretch where they look like a sive, even in the space of a single game. Still can’t really explain it after seeing quite a few games now.
Don't really get what the point is of listing goalies by statistics. We can all click sort on the nhl stats page, right? Maybe throw some variation in there, tell us whose defense you think is to blame, that sort of thing? GSAA is a better stat than save% but it still tells a miniscule amount of the story.
@@unique_package5370 It's Hiller's decision and bet ya he's even disagreeing with the goalie coach! The way I see it, Portillo has been playing well for the Ontario Reign. Askarov has been doing the same playing well at the AHL level and now is getting his shot at the NHL level. Portillo should be given the same opportunity because Rittich is a wonky donkey and I guess they gave up on Copley.
You can find it at multiple different hockey sites. As a Canes fan I can tell you a team defense that is great at shot suppression but still allows a few high danger chances will GREATLY skew the basic save percentage stat.
@@maxfish4270Yep. Avs play with the puck alot too, and whether its a high danger chance against or a floater from the blueline- one of the first 5 in the first period go in. I believe thats been so atleast half the games ive seen, and thats an understatement rather than over. It’s mindboggling how weird goalies work
@@Huskies2308When has the defense been solid? Capitals game is really the only game I can think of recently. And Georgie was great. Defense is good. Goalie is good.
People putting way too much hope in Demko. Id have him 40/60 with Lankinen.. Lankinen given the chance will be better than Demko and canucks better re-sign Lank. Get rid of Demko. Guarantee he gets injured again.
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Haven't felt this comfortable with Leafs goalie tandem in years & years. Fantastic
We can finally feel confident with Woller and Stoller between the posts and Hildebeest didn't have a great debut but he's been doing well for the Marlies, so he'll come around with more experience. Feels a lot better than the coin flip on whether or not Samsonov would stand on his head or be shaky
Extremely happy with Korpisalo-looking like he did with Columbus
This past draft was at The Vegas Sphere. Knights players were doing autograph sessions. Logan Thompson learned that he had been traded to The Capitals just before his autograph session. Thompson did it and that was his last act as a Vegas Golden Knight.
I figured that if Thompson did well, he would get the #1 GK slot with The Capitals.
Feels like Blackwood would be a good pickup for the Oilers or Avs
Stay away from my Blackwood - he’s our Shark - but tbh I see Grier putting either him or Vanacek for a trade
@@JapaneseAmericanaJiuJitsuAvs will take Vanecek
@@JapaneseAmericanaJiuJitsu I wouldn't get sentimental over Blackwood or Granlund. Grier probably realizes this is the last possible chance he'll have to scalp assets before the Sharks turn the corner from selling team to ascending team. He'll sell at the deadline and try and get one final top pick in Schaefer or Misa.
Wish New Jersey would've kept him. He's always been very solid just unlucky with injuries and when he was in NJ they gave him no defense.
@@Gufrion37 Yea he's been surprisingly decent this year. With a more fundamental system around him compared to last year his play has been really good. He'll be excellent if he gets a move to a contender.
I think goalie coaches are a huge part of a team's success. The same teams keep getting new goalies who have had success elsewhere and they just start playing terribly. Then the goalies go elsewhere and have success again. Ottawa, Pittsburgh, and Edmonton come to mind. You can argue that it's the structure in front of the goalies but it just seems to keep happening even when the players on the team change.
And on a similar note: look at how many average goalies go into Boston and become beasts with the help of Goalie Bob.
Dustin Schwartz (Oilers goaltending coach) is definitely a problem in Edmonton. Many fans have asked him to not be the goaltending coach anymore. He teaches the same bad habits to every goaltender he gets his hands on. They all end up playing the same horrible style
@@abovewater6918 it doesn't help when their defense is terrible
@@GG-ng6zm Goals saved above expected is supposed to account for that. There's a pattern here that goes beyond the defence.
I would agree that having poor defence in front of you still hurts GSAA though. A good defence will force shots from the outside which will still count towards a goalies GSAA.
I can't decide if what I just watched is more of a true oasis for the mind and soul or a portal to endless laughter and fun. Either way, your contributions will not go unnoticed, Shannon.
I'm happy with our tandem, maybe Reimer can be the new Craig Anderson for us.
I am totally taking this as true
If you are looking for another topic to fill a quiet time in the NHL schedule, what about predicting one player from each NHL team who would (should?) be the next (first?) to have his number retired by each team. For example, is there anyone alive who doubts that Ovechkin will have his #8 retired by Washington, or Sidney Crosby's #87 by Pittsburgh? I'd love to know what your list would look like!
This would just be a list of the best active players 😂
@@Zurrkenot necessarily. Like for the Blues, it’s very likely at least a couple of their Stanley Cup winners will get their numbers retired, but a lot of fans from other teams won’t consider them the best players in the league right now.
Flames goalie depth proves drafting even late round goalies can once in a while find a hidden gem
Feels weird to call Wolf a hidden gem when he has dominated every league he's ever been in.
@ yeah but many doubted him he was overlooked and passed on in the draft for lesser goalies
Considering goalies having played at least 10 games this season, of the top 10 in sv%, there are no 1st round picks, and as many undrafted goalies as 2nd round picks. One of those 2nd rounders, in 5 seasons, has posted a .933, .892, .931, .899, and is sitting at .923 so far this season. It's fairly well established that goalies are unpredictable and weird, and it's quite common for success in lower leagues to never translate to the NHL, and guys who fly under the radar often end up doing well when they get the chance. Heck, there are only two active goalies with two Vezina trophies, and one of them was undrafted (the other was picked in the 5th round, for what it's worth).
The *Calgary* Flames? The hockey team?
Lankinen needed this video. Followed it up with a shutout
I like GSAx but I prefer GSAx per 60, or at least mentioning it. If you have two players who are +3 GSAx but one played 3 games and the other has played 30 games, the former is averaging +1 GSAx per 60 while the latter is only averaging 0.1. Of course 3 games tells you less because it's a small sample size, but I do like getting a larger amount of information.
THG trying to torture Avs fans with this one
The Avs defense is also just atrocious. Leaving guys wide open in front of the net, just letting the goalie get peppered. Defense improves, goaltending improves.
@@soulknife20I agree which is funny because bednar said after the first 5 games they really wanted to focus on defense yet last night they decided not to play good defense at all vs one of the best offensive teams in the league. There’s been several games (I’d see this last year too) where the players just leave the goalie out to dry some games no matter who’s in net
@@jasonkashefi8241Yup. Last night, Prime Roy would have gotten smoked. Any goalie short of like Hellebuyck isn't going to have a good time in net with the Avs
I honestly dont get the chance to watch many games, let alone Avs games, but I have to ask, is Cale Makar good as a Defensive Defence man? Or is he far more geared to being an Offensive Dman, not hating just curious.
@avah3643 He is a good defenseman. He is having a down year. But he can't be on the ice for 60 minutes. Just no way. He's already playing close to 25 minutes a game. He does score points. But he's also a good defenseman as well.
Ah good 'ol Joel Daccord. Crushing it.
Joey* good to see who pays this guy lol
Look into it: all the men in Joey's family are goalies or professional goalies
@@MrKendrickLlamahis name is Joel, Joey is a nickname
@@perfumedquail222 leme guess ur gunna tell me next that vin diesel is actually mark sinclair?
The way Blackwood has been playing, he deserves a shot with a contender.
@@radiopools I hope my avs trade for him
@@-linusthegoat-4825Or Vanecek. He has potential
Blackwood has been lights out in SJ considering the teams he's played behind. I saw Devils fans saying you can never trust Blackwood, hasn't been a problem yet
@@ianhall6614Blackwood never really healed right from his injuries in New Jersey
I was actually just chatting about this the other day with my dad, and made the same exact points about GAA and wins (and, to a somewhat lesser extent save percentage) being not so great for comparing goalies. With goalies and defense, in a lot of ways, I still feel the eyeball test is more helpful than actual stats, because stats tend to treat all shots the same, and don't account for difficulty of the save (I know some advance stats do, but those also require subjective value judgments, and they sort of become an attempt to quantify the eyeball test at that point), how their defense is playing in front of them, or the fact that a goalie who stops 9/10 has a better save percentage than a goalie who stops 26/30, but that latter goalie was getting peppered and fatigue becomes a lot more of a factor.
Awesome breakdown!
Ppl get their nickers in a twist over adv. stats, and while not perfect, they easily beat any other statistic (especially the dreaded eye test ughh)
The reason this statisticsl analysis is soo needed is because soo often fans will confuse the form of a goalie pair with the defensive structure&ability of a team.
Yeah. Disagree.
Constructive criticism: would love to have the board closer to the camera or things be larger. It’s hard to read some of the items especially as it goes to the right and is further from camera. Thanks!
New Jersey has legitimately good goaltending, happy days are here again!
NJ is scary when firing on all cylinders
As a knight fan hill has found his game lately what hurts him rn is his bad first two weeks where he let 4 in every start but hes been really good outside of that caines game where he got lit up 5 goals
Spencer Knight very solid and just plain talented in his movement. Looking like he can be future in Florida. Happy for him. ✅
The Flyers' goaltending numbers can certainly crater. With the revolving door on defense right now and with no ability to get into the offensive zone for large stretches, those goalies numbers will fall further.
They have a young guy over in Russia right now that is extremely exciting, it will be a while, but if he pans out it would be fantastic.
Shannon is the voice of hockey for me. How do we get him on HNIC, doing playbyplay, or pushing his subscribers up past 1 million?
sales of pepto-bismol just skyrocketed amongst avalanche fans when this video got posted to YT. 🎉
Sorry people, I looked at the first column and the Kraken are there! I am having a happy happy day. Those days don ‘t come often
Guess what, expected goals can be debatable!
The goaltending scene seems much more interesting this season IMHO.
"Oilers have goaltending problems, wake me up when they don't" -Guy in 2016 says, goes to sleep
Guy from 2016 wakes up in 2024 "Why on Earth did you not wake me up in 8 years??.........Oh, I see, nevermind"
I know some of this is on the defense too. Which is also an ongoing problem
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
*sees title*
How is he gonna talk about the Avs when they have no goaltending?
So when do the Sens start looking at training and conditioning? It's a little odd that goalies can't stop a beachball when playing here, but play better when moving on to other teams (Gustavsson, Talbot, Korpisalo, etc).
Anton Forsberg being the exception
Thanks for the video! Amazing how well the Blackhawks goalies are doing given their basement dwelling. I think the Kraken just might move up into a playoff spot on the back of Daccord. He's been really great. There's a separate circle in whatever serves as the opposite of Dante's Inferno Hell for Hellebuyck. Canes got the depth between the pipes to make a playoff run. It's impressive how many teams have multiple goalies with winning stats that surprise you who they play for. Ducks, Blackhawks, Sharks? Sell the Zamboni, Hell has frozen over!
For the Blues, I honestly think about three games blew up the goalie numbers. For example, the last 3 goals vs the Caps, it looked like most of the team had given up. For most of the games, the goalies have been fine, though not nearly as good as last year.
My hope is that Monty does not go with the same game plan of let’s let the goalie tire out the other team by making 10-15 first period saves, and then once the other team is really exhausted, shoot the puck.
I’m happy that Buffalo is giving Levi more time in Rochester instead of trying to force the situation. Reimer looked good, hopefully that continues. I am pleasantly surprised by Upie the last two years, he has vastly improved from when he started
Grubauer has been a blight for four years… that contract is brutal
Worth noting that Rittich was about average until a poor performance in San Jose yesterday. Not at all an issue with the stat, but definitely an overnight change in how our goaltending is viewed.
Leafs goalies are solid this season BOTH OF THEM could be the difference this time for them in the playoffs love to see it for my city.
goaltending really isn't Torontos problem in the playoffs unless the goalies are expected to shutout every game. It's the not being able to score enough that has been the issue.
@@ianhall6614 This is very true but goaltending does make a difference over the course of a series maybe the Leafs might be able to have a goalie that can make the difference like when Sammy let in that pasta shot in OT last spring. Maybe we can get the timely saves now. In every series the other goalie has been better perhaps the Leafs can finally have the better goalie who can keep them in the game so they can find that one goal more than the other team to pull the series out know what i mean. Extra big save or 2 right when needed most.
As a Canes fan, this videos timing hurts lol
The Hockey Guy confirmed likes to psychologically torture Canes fans. 😭
Bro. Martin is SWISS. I thought Raanta was bad, not even close to Martin.
@@CxrsonYo apparently his goals above expected is positive? Doesn’t show on the ice though. Holding my breath for even routine saves
I hope Avs GM Chris McFarland watches this video. THG spitting nothing but FACTS
Happy for Lankinen👍 Reminds me of Bryzgalov but without the insanity. Love those goalies on bad teams that battle & are steady while getting peppered. Also are back ups more coveted than ever?
Lankinen ( Canucks ) saw this video and stood on his head in Boston tonight.
The only thing keeping the Red Wings from being dead last. If only the rest of the team could try as hard as them.
If you're gonna talk about Hildeby, you should give Akhtyamov an honourable mention. He's been outplayed Denis on the Marlies, and it's not like Hildeby has slowed down either. Including Murray, all of the Leafs top 5 goalies are over .900.
Blackwood also has the lower AAV contract and would produce the higher return in a trade.
Ullmark has to turn it around right…right?
All things considered I am quite happy with those goalie stats for Flyers. Yes they are all negative, but not as bad as might of been expected and generally seem to be trending in the right direction. I don't think we will be in the market for a goalie. We want to fully evaluate the current three this season and have Zavragin in the wings who is due to come through in the next 2/3 seasons as part of our rebuild!
The fact that Saros is playing so well and Nashville is still playing terribly is actually pretty impressive.
I believe GSAx/GP would be a more appropriate statistic for this analysis
What is the benchmark for comparison, such that a goalie would be at +-0.00 goals expected? A comparison against historical average save percentage based on the different types of shot quality (high-danger, 5-alarm, etc)? Based on this list, most goalies are above 0.00, some of which are way above. On average, the league's goalies are well above that neutral 0.00 mark, which means goalies are playing better than this expected benchmark.
Having said that, this metric offers a good comparison for goalies this season in a relative sense! Just curious if someone knows that answer.
I've been very pleasantly surprised how good Detroit's goaltending has been. I thought it was going to be a huge weakness this year, but it's been our biggest strength. Our offense and defense, aside from Seider and Edvinsson, has been bad. Johansson and Holl had a pretty good game last time out though. Petry and Chiarot are just godawful though.
Only if he made this video after lankinens SO tonight
Without a cross-reference as to how many shots have been faced by a given goaltender, these stats have limited function. For instance, the fact that Montembeault is even above water in this stat is miraculous. He gets shot to pieces every single game, much like Blackwood and Dostal. There is also the exposure question. Andersen at 6.81 versus Kochetkov at 3.62? How many games has Andersen played? 6? Kochetkov has carried the Canes this year, but the offense needs to be factored in. Earlier I quoted the stat that measures how much time a team spends in their offensive zone while a given defenseman was in the game. The CAR defensemen were ALL at 60% or above. That affects the goalie big time...Speaking of CAR, yes, they need another 1B goaltender...If ANA falls off the horse, Gibson moves. I think Soderblum moves out of CHI. With JimMont in STL now, Binnington's days there may be numbered. If SJS moves anybody it'll be Vanacek, but I still see SJS as a late blooming contender this year. Go ahead and laugh. The Sharks are getting it figured out. And I think Connor Ingram seriously needs out of Salt Lake. He's way better than that. He's just had a loser team around him for so long. Gibson to COL? I don't think so. Nobody is good enough for the Avs. You could dig up Gordie Howe, resurrect him with bionic limbs, and Avs fans would still be pissed. (Parents, don't let your kids drink Coors.) CAR? Who wants to play there? Not saying it's bad, but there are an astonishing number of NHL contracts featuring NTCs with Raleigh on it...All of the contenders seem to be set with the exceptions of VAN, LAK, CAR, and OTT. OTT just needs a better backline...But the NHL never does anything that I expect, so - there's that...
Holland screwed up the Oilers in not drafting a goalie. They had a chance to get Cossa before Wings drafted him. Skinner is a bust to be a #1 goalie. Pickled was a waiver pickup that does a decent job if put in the backup role.
Caps don't have top tier goaltender but they have top tier tandem and both catches R pretty rare to see.
Based upon these stats it's obvious that Edmonton and Colorado need upgrades.
Cup finalist last year and a really talented team that can't get over the hump, generally due to injuries.
Any team that has a goalie to spare can ask for a bunch in return to make those two teams better.
Would love to see the Sharks send either Vanecek or Blackwood on (since both are UFA) to get something better back. Assuming of course that Askarov pans out and is the goalie of the future.
But, would either the Oilers or Avalanche bite?
It doesn't matter with the defense issues with the avs.
@@soulknife20bro, theyre not gonna play good D every game in November. the underlying stats will tell you Avs give up less than the average team in the league, theyre #13 in xGA- dead last in actual goals against and sv%
@@Nathanielhiggerson66They don't pass the eye test. I've watched all 22 games. And they have lapses at the worst possible time. They end up screening their own goalie or just leaving guys in front of the net for tip ins. They don't clear rebounds. The games where Georgie or Juice were good? Great defense.
@@soulknife20 fair I’ll give that to you- they do have lapses. but the way people phrase it is like they have the worst defence in the league when in fact theyre no worse than the Canes 5v5 and very close to Dallas. Its once they go down a man, they can’t get a save.
Manson has been horrible, bad timing with penalties and always out of position.
@@Nathanielhiggerson66Oh no. They don't. It's just they have the worst timing with their lapses.
And Lankinen just shutout last night… he’s good for you guys!
This feels like a direct attack at me (an avs fan) especially after last night
Canes fan here. Pain
I fail to understand why NSH didn't sign Lankinen but traded for Wedgewood.
So... there is two contenders (EDM, COL) and at least one pretender (LAK) in need of an upgrade in net. On the other side there is Gibson (who has cap space to take him on?), Blackwood, Mrazek and as a 1B option Soderbloom. Interesting situation.
Have you done a career video on Nikolai Khabibulin?
I wouldn't mind seeing Husso go to a team that needs a back-up or is willing to gamble on him. He's been injured practically is whole time in Detroit and when he was "healthy" the team in front of him wasn't making him look great.
Honestly don't know where he's at skill wise if he can stay healthy and shake off the rust, but he seems like a prime reclamation project for a team willing to take a gamble.
eat half, send him to the canes for jesper fast. fast, i believe, is on LTIR and not coming off anytime soon, so you're basically losing half husso's cap hit for no return.
Bobrovsky is fine. Stats don't tell the story. Florida defense is slowwwww. Offense (Chucky and Carter V not producing.)
Longtime Bruins fan. The worst part of the Swayman contract cluster is that the weasel Sweeney will still be on the payroll after Swayman's contract is dumped.
Shannon do you believe in the advanced stats?
Bad teams with good goaltenders are going to get so much attention at the trade deadline.
Watching Bobrosky over the years, consistency is odd. He will have a good year followed by a bad year. The year between his Vezina trophies was a down year. I've also seen him switch everything up mid-season or right at the playoffs. As much as I love Bob, was kind of hoping they would move him over the summer, while he had really high trade value. The Panthers currently have 14.5 million tied up in cap space for two goaltenders.They could have kept Stolarz and still have Knight for the future and Driedger for insurance. Hindsight seems 20/20, but I was saying this since the end of last season.
Johansson is most definitely hurting Tampa. Vasy’s numbers take a nosedive when he’s overplayed, and Johansson being that terrible is forcing Tampa to play Vasy 65+ games. They desperately need a backup goalie in case any injuries happen
One of the first to watch!! Great video!!
GAA is still a very indicative metric
Both CBJ goalies are playing like their Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde; they look great at times, then have a 3-5 shot stretch where they look like a sive, even in the space of a single game. Still can’t really explain it after seeing quite a few games now.
Jekyll.
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Dostwall is insane
Me, an avs fan:
Haha, I'm in danger!
HELLE!!!! 😊
Garry Bettman has changed the rules enough during his tenure that a Canadian team will never win another Stanley Cup.
Wonder what THG thought about Lankinen tonight lol
I just know this video was inspired by the tampa-colorado game last night
The Avs played horribly last night. They continuously left their goalies out to dry last night
Why did the Kings let go of Talbot? He is thriving in Detroit even with bad defense in front of him.
Soderblom is 4 starts away from waviers
Swayman is a good goalie, but he started from behind to start the season and he’s still trying to catchup!
A bad NHL goaltender is probably better than any goalie not in the NHL.
If Igor does not play at his standard he better be prepared for humiliation
Don't really get what the point is of listing goalies by statistics. We can all click sort on the nhl stats page, right? Maybe throw some variation in there, tell us whose defense you think is to blame, that sort of thing? GSAA is a better stat than save% but it still tells a miniscule amount of the story.
Wouldn't GSAx/60 be better than a purely counting stat?
Avs have the worst starter in the league and it’s not even close
God I hate that team but how can you not love vasi
Go Jackets!!
Thank the flipping heavens that NJ has two veteran goaltenders that are most likely "stubborn" because holy hell, rogalski needs to go.
Bolts need a backup. If they don’t, vasaline guy will burn out again.
Hockey trade: Igor for Dostal
havent even started the video yet and i already know Oilers are going to be dead last LOL
Oilers, Kings, and Avs could all use Ville Husso. 😅
Ullmark 😂 seems like Korpisalo is the best out of the three
And the Oilers brass thinks their problems are on Defense??
Pretty obvious where the problem really is.
Interesting.
WHERE IS THE PANTHERS SLIDE VID. please???
Blackwood to Carolina for picks, make it happen pls
Lankinen says hi
There he goes again, claiming he's watching every game like he's The Hockey Guy...
Kings have their goalie in Portillo, but their in over their head coach Hiller, doesn’t play him at all.
I truly don’t understand why they haven’t put him in considering Kuemper is injured
@@unique_package5370 It's Hiller's decision and bet ya he's even disagreeing with the goalie coach! The way I see it, Portillo has been playing well for the Ontario Reign. Askarov has been doing the same playing well at the AHL level and now is getting his shot at the NHL level. Portillo should be given the same opportunity because Rittich is a wonky donkey and I guess they gave up on Copley.
What are all these guys save percentages?
You can find it at multiple different hockey sites. As a Canes fan I can tell you a team defense that is great at shot suppression but still allows a few high danger chances will GREATLY skew the basic save percentage stat.
@@maxfish4270Yup.
crazy bounces can happen though, I say every save is worth at least something.
@@maxfish4270Yep. Avs play with the puck alot too, and whether its a high danger chance against or a floater from the blueline- one of the first 5 in the first period go in. I believe thats been so atleast half the games ive seen, and thats an understatement rather than over. It’s mindboggling how weird goalies work
I think colorado could push for a blackwood trade
They won't. Blackwood would get mauled. The Avs have a terrible defense right now
@soulknife20 they most definitely could. Even when defense is solid georgiev isn't
@@Huskies2308When has the defense been solid? Capitals game is really the only game I can think of recently. And Georgie was great. Defense is good. Goalie is good.
@@soulknife20 It's not like San Jose has good or even average defense. Blackwood has just been top tier this year
People putting way too much hope in Demko. Id have him 40/60 with Lankinen.. Lankinen given the chance will be better than Demko and canucks better re-sign Lank. Get rid of Demko. Guarantee he gets injured again.