Thank you for taking the time to collect the data and present it. The information you provide is fascinating and your expertise is appreciated. My sympathies to all the people who have lost property due to this event.
Hi, I am from South Africa and have been monitoring your comments and video's since this eruption started. Thank you for your reports on this occurrence. In our country, people can not start to grasp the immensity of what is happening in Hawaii. I certainly feel and have compassion with you folk.
Great update! Thanks so much for taking the time to help us understand what's going on at this point. Great video and photos. Really helps with the visuals.
Fascinating and terrifying at the same time. My heart goes out to those who have lost homes, properties and businesses. I imagine something like this happening to my family's farm (and in earthquake country it could, any day) and wonder how we'd cope...
Super Dave- people are still losing homes and livelihoods, which was the point of my comment. Sure, compared to many other disasters it doesn't add up to much, but it's still loss and displacement at a level I can relate to.
wright534 It's barely a hiccup as far as volcanoes go! A few homes..... no big deal. If you think this is a cataclysmic eruption, take another look at the wildfires burning in California and the rest of the mainland.
Super Dave- why yes, that's what I just said. I agree that this isn't on the scale of those wildfires, or the eruption in Guatemala. I just said it's something I can empathize with.
On the spot evolving volcanology and scientific insight in the making, super presentation and fantastic too with modern technology be able to watch all the events that are unfolding and see the digital images of before and now. As I and the world watches in awe of the volume of land been produced by this spectacular event , I also consider those who have lost so much in these past weeks and hope resolution be found, to their loss and the uncertainty of finding new permanent homes to allow their lives to get back on track as these day go by. Ka malhuia
We don't have time for this volcano stuff, President Trump is on the CNN news concerning his orders for the Secret Service to shoot the White House pigeons. The pigeons are crapping all over the place. The President is outraged, birds are dying, people are protesting in the streets. There is more important news than a silly volcano. Oh, yeah, and CNN is also outraged that Hillary lost the election, CNN is running a five hour explanation special about why she lost. Much more important than a volcano.
Mahalo USGS for keeping up so well informed. For some of us living with this here in Lower Puna, information and historical context is helpful in coping, if not exactly encouraging.
The USGS is an awesome institute that provides lots of useful and interesting information to the public. I've learned so much from them about geology and volcanism, watching their video's. We have nothing in Europe that even tries to compare with them!
The Italian INGV or National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology (Italian: Istituto Nazionale Geofisica e Vulcanologia) does outstanding work on volcanos and earthquakes and is a partner to the USGS. Not surprising since Italy has more active volcanos close to where people live than the USA.
Yeah well, I guess people study what affects them the most. Not exactly tripping over volcanoes in europe, whereas the Americas have them all over the place.
I think what's clear here is that the government officials will be taking a wait and see approach, emphasizing that great care needs to be taken, and that they will keep us all posted with more updates as they become available. Thank you.
The world came together when the Thai soccer team were trapped. My all our thoughts and prayers go to each and every government the who exists today, who have the power to lay down arms and live in peace and harmony. Let all the people of earth share in our earths riches together, and war only against poverty, until poverty is removed from earth, once and for all. Love & Peace
Can you get the military to overfly at night to get FLIR images? I wonder if you could map lava tubes that way. Also do you have complete gas analyses on the emissions? All of the videos that I have seen only mention more/less SO2. Is N2 present in the gas?
The helicopter overflight video is always good. If it is safe, can you please get some video from the area of the Kapoho crater where the main flow direction changed last week? And, Why was the flow restriction at Kapoho Crater allowed to change the flow of the lava? Why wasn't the obstruction removed by demolition? Third unanswered question: does anyone know the approximate average depth of the lava channel?
They don't try to control the lava because they know better. It failed in the 50's when they tried building earthen levies and this eruption is way bigger. How exactly would you propose a lava dam to be demolished in the middle of a raging river of 2000 degree molten lava? Nobody can even get close to the lava river.
Yeah, good idea. How do you propose to remove by demilition such an obstruction, bearing in mind they had maybe an hour's warning it would happen? You do know you can't drive any sort of heavy equipment on the crusted lava dams either side of the flow, don't you? How would you use explosives, given that they only work by being buried in substrate? You volunteering to either drive a dozer out there, or go out with a drill rig and drill moving lava? Idiot.
Estimated volume of the caldera collapse is about 700 million cubic meters but the estimated lava emissions from 2018 fissures so far is approximately 440 million cubic meters. I wonder what happened to the other 260 million cubic meters of lava? Did it move from the Kilauea magma reservoir into the East rift zone? If so, should we expect to see at least 260 million more cubic meters of lava to come out of fissure 8? Should we expect the current eruption to continue as long as the collapse events at the summit continue?
Expect the lava flow at Kapoho to continue unabated until the lava channel gets clogged for whatever reason. At which point the lava will promptly resume its flow from Pu'o'o, as it had been doing NON-STOP from jan 3 1983 until end of april 2018 when it, too, suffered a collapse. It is the same lava source, fed through the same lave channels, that has fed 2.7 billion m3 of lava tthrough Pu'o'o in the last 35 years, and now some 0.45 billion from Kapoho.
Where has that pahoehoe lava been going is it underground and it's just going out towards the sea because I didn't know that there was a live lava flow on the island nobody was talking about it?
What comparisons do we have with pre-(western)-historic flows? I've visited Hawaii before including this side of the island. I know the Kona side is covered in many enormous flows from the past. What kinds of size and scale comparison data is available from the remnants of these events? If this event continues to grow in scale, what is the worst case potential scenario at a probability of 50%, 10%, and 1%? -Jake
All of the recent massive lava flows on Hawaii are from Mauna Loa, which has a much larger magma reservoir than Kilauea. I am not a volcanologist, but I don't think Kilauea is (yet) capable of creating the type of enormous lava flows that emerged in the near past (e.g. 19th century) from Mauna Loa. Hawaiians outside of the Kilauea rift zones should probably more concerned about a future Mauna Loa eruption.
From what I heard today also, the ash plume from frequent actual eruptions can be thousands of feet in height, yet we are not seeing any of that. How come? Sometimes also the image is not onscreen for long enough to take it in. Thanks
I cringed when Steve kept mispronouncing Isaac Hale. Hale is pronounced "ha- lay" and not "hail." Isaac Kepo'okalani Hale was the first Hawaiian US soldier killed in the Korean War on 7/12/1951. The official name of the beach park is the Isaac Hale Memorial Beach Park. This may sound like a minor issue compared to the magnitude and scope of the current eruption, but I think proper respect for this brave man's sacrifice is still due, especially since it appears that we may lose this special beach park and boat ramp dedicated in the memory of this "Son of Hawaii."
You are absolutely correct that it's a very minor issue. In English, which is what the bulk of the vulcanologists of the USGS speak, it's 'hay-ell', generally as one syllable. As in "Hale and Hearty'. The ones that know how to separate it into two distinct syllables know the difference, and are probably listening for information. Especially with the name simply being 'Isaac Hale', I think anyone would be forgiven for thinking it's a purely European name. I would suspect that even if the beach park and ramp are destroyed, in a few years, they'll be back in the same spot, or at least a similar one. Keep in mind that much of the area covered by lava flows now - including where houses were - was covered with lava flows in the 1950's and 60's. So, people will rebuild the roads, and put the boat launches and parks back in because, well, they need and want them.
. . . I commend your point on correct pronunciation. If not corrected, mispronunciations or misspellings only get multiplied and perpetuated. The history of these islands and their former cultural domain should be studied and respected by the colonialists who gained acquisition by trickery. The culture, like all others, has good and bad aspects, but we should learn and enjoy positive features such as the true pronunciation.
Is there a way to tell how much magma is left in the magma chamber and how much further the level will fall before it will be level to the path to the rift zone.
Thanks for your reply. I should have been more detailed in my question. Given the current rate of the magma chamber lowering (which is causing the collapse events at the summit) and taking into account that new lava is flowing into the magma chamber at a rate that is lower that what is flowing into the rift, what is the estimate of when the magma chamber level will reach (if ever) the level of path the the rift zone.
Craig: The current flow rate does massively exceed the steady-state refill rate of the main magma chamber. If we assume the volcano itself still operates at its somewhat steady predictable rate, we can expect the lava flow to continue at this rate for about 1-2 month more, then reduce to 1/3 the rate. Which rate will be sustained indefinitely. More likely though, once the rate reduces, the lava feed towards Kapoho will clog, and the flow will exit from Pu'o'o, as it has been doing for the last 35 years.
Marvin Kitfox--Agreed, good explanation. There's most likely a blockage or pinch point from the magma reservoir plume to the summit magma chamber and the opening to the LERZ, has been widened-likely from the M6.9 quake-enabling the magma to flow freely downslope through the already established cracks in the rift zone. Path of least resistance. Possibly once the upwelling decreases and if the conduit to the summit opens up enough we may start to see the summit chamber refilling at a higher rate than the rate at which it's draining downslope.
Thank you for this very good explanation my concern has been could this be a new movement a new hole in the under I don't know the term where a new whole is coming up through the magma new opening almost like a new volcano is what I'm trying to say my dad died and he was a geologist he knew all about this and and he was concerned he just passed away that as the plates move and Hawaii is still being built that there could be new volcanoes come up and the USGS would think oh this is the same old thing thinking that it's attached to the same volcanoes but it's not he felt that his companions were becoming very complacent he worked with the USGS out here in the western states and was very concerned about Mammoth and Yellowstone and now Yellowstone has two unusual events that guys are that usually doesn't go off and a rift that has opened up I'm sure he would be very concerned he was the one who told me what's happening with climate change has nothing to do with our emissions man-made as a matter of fact the Clean Air has caused the world to become warmer because we don't have the cloud cover that provided the rain and he felt bad about that but he said it is better to get the impurities out of the air however he said the melting of the ice was caused by the volcanic action that the volcanoes are waking up it's their time to start working they've been sleeping and that's why Mount Saint Helens went off. He was worried that Western scientist didn't listen to the native peoples and did not really get a good handle until too late on Saint Helens that they really needed to realize and they didn't realize it until the end of this Century that these volcanic activities are consistently on a timer that the stories the native peoples could tell about their history would help them be able to time the volcanoes or the volcanic action they also went out and like in Washington state were able to find the dead tree areas that timed it but they had originally thought the dead trees were caused by flooding they later found out that they were caused by volcanic action. my dad said that when volcanoes run late it's more cataclysmic I'm sure he would have loved to be watching all of this he was 89 and in perfect health able to still climb mountains I think it was all those years of climbing rock and studying it and working in it just he had a little aneurysm by his heart and the doctors didn't go in and do the seal that they had promised us because he was over 70 and they don't do surgery on 70 year olds anymore they are expendable and he overdid it at the house doing some work and stressed it and it leaked just like a little volcano and he slowly wound down and passed away laughing with his family around him
Wondering if this will be affecting climate on west coat of u.s., if lava continues flowing for some years? Will we get a stronger Pineapple Express or El Niño?
John v Willoughby Yes..it is warm air with lots of rain in the winter...the current travels from the South Pacific up the west coast USA in the winter some years..especially El Niño years.....I believe an elevation in ocean temperatures contributes.
Yes, the temperatures of the Pacific Ocean affect the atmospheric rivers that bring rain to the West Coast of North America, sometimes called the Pineapple Express. The volcanic eruptions are too small to affect a significant part of the ocean. They only affect the weather in a limited area near the island.
Actually, the S02 emissions from this eruption are pretty significant, both in volume and duration. I'd be surprised if it didn't at least slightly change climate for a few years. S02 is actually a COOLING greenhouse gas, and emissions have been in steady decline for the past few decades- which does nothing for the ignorant bandwagon climate change zealots who claim EVERYTHING is to do with C02 and label anyone who dares to speak anything to the contrary as ignorant and dumb, which is exactly what it is to blindly parrot uninformed psuedo science....
Impossible to follow. The eruption is so complex you'd think he would have some computed graphics by now to help us understand what happened and what is happening. What about the night all the homes burned? What happened????
Glen Hoban--No, it doesn't work that way, the collapsed material is merely filling up the hole left by the summit magma chamber evacuating its contents downrift into the lower East Rift Zone. The collapsed material does pressurize the system which is why there's a surge of effusion at fissure 8 roughly 2 hours after a collapse event at the summit.
So this eruption has produced 0.45 cu. km. of lava in the first 80 days. That is certainly much smaller than the Laki eruption of 1783-84, which put out 14 cubic kilometers of lava. That one lasted about 180 days; if this one has a similar run, it will end up with about 1 cubic kilometer total. But time will tell....
4:50 um 2 things, 1 satalights in space that have thermal vision & 2 helicopters that have thermal vision, cant you use those to detect where its flowing underground via where its hottest from lava that has cooled down a bit?
Thanks for factual detailed update. I think that the lava exploding on hitting the ocean is down to rapid chemical & mineral reactions with gases and the composition& heat of the lava and the ocean &cold. But it’s just a guess an nowhere near easy to explain how possible it would be to experiment on that theory
Anybody know if the explosion occurred at high tide? The additional weight of water over a tube may have contributed to calving or collapse that suddenly exposed a large submarine area of lava to water that immediately flashed to steam causing an explosion. Steam expansion releases a tremendous amount of mechanical energy!
These summit reports are laid out for ppl who know what the area looks like. If you've never seen Kilauea Crater bf, its pretty obvious from these reports you couldn't have the slightest clue as to what's going on.
Or lava flowed over some water. Created a pocket of water underneath the lava. When the lava cooled and Sealed the pocket. It pressurizes the steam until it explodes. Sending the molten lava above it into the air.
Throughout this event I have been stunned that our technology cannot track underground flows. It would seem IR tech would be able to read the differences in temperatures precise enough to give us a cohesive underground conduit system, not just after exit from fissure 8, but from the summit or from the magma source.
Ron Dye Channel--They know where the East Rift Zone is, they know where it goes. You can't accurately predict at what point within the hundreds of subsurface cracks magma will come to the surface even with the use of tech.
If magma is moving beneath the surface the cracks and channels should show up as varying temperatures and volume (size) based on their movement. I would think. I'm no geologist (are you??) but I would bet the substrate has a large variance in temperature. Gee they could find a tank under the sand in Desert Storm.
. . . The volume and force of "bunker-buster" bombs is trivial compared to the pressure and weight of the emerging lava. The most you could accomplish would be to momentarily collapse edges of the cone around the vent, which if they fell into and obstructed the flow, would only result in a fol- lowing explosion-plume as the vent flow burst through to continue its flow unabated. Likewise, bombing the subter- ranean channel anywhere in the rift zone to block flow would only result in temporary diversion to new vents; there's no way humans can stop a volcano.
They tried it in previous eruptions - it didn't work. Taking the flow rate numbers from this video and an approximate density for basaltic lava, we're talking about a lava delivery rate of round about 300 tons per second. Just think about that, maybe 10 dump truck loads - every second. You are simply not going to hold that back with a bit of concrete.
Why they dont understand whats causing the expolsion at oceanentry ? Into the lavaflow some nearby totally molten Boulders just gets with the flow, and if those reaching the Oceanentry before totally breaking of due to that travel, and hits the Water those Boulders react like a Grenade. Its simpler than you can imagine, right ?
The big expulsion of yesterday look more like a under water volcano about to pop out , we see orange lava and lightning, how lava can still orange after crossing water???
Daa3.1416 Saa He explained that they suspect the lava may have formed a lava tube underwater. If part of the underwater lavarock shelf broke off (calved- like chunks breaking/calving off a glacier) then large volumes of liquid molten lava suddenly met the water. The heat turned the water to steam which expands quickly and goes kaboom with all the mixed liquid lava and steam pushed upwards.
timefilm I understand your concern but this time your fibers don't quite know how volcanos work. Go back and look at Mt Saint Hellans minute by minute video. The bulge is caused by traped lava under pressure. But here we have collapse due to draining of lava away from the crater. Aloha!
7:00 - My theory on what causes those explosive events is pillow lava builds up below the surface and piles on top of itself until the structure becomes unstable and it collapses down, when it does the structure breaks apart and the hot inner sections flash boil the sea, creating vast amounts of steam which explode outward carrying some of the hot formation with it.
Xaiano that is basically what he said, but he mentioned the word Calving, which is where basically a bit breaks off. So if a tube has formed and then a bit fails above, W reading into the tube, the resulting meeting of water and lava can cause a steam eruption.
yeah I think it's similar but a different mechanism - a tube wouldn't create a large explosion because of the limited surface area in contact with the water - the steam would propel water away from the lava (aka the Leidenfrost effect), however if the material avalanched down, it would break up as it fell, exponentially increasing the surface area as it does and this could lead to a large explosive event. Pillow lava normally forms small formations (th-cam.com/video/xsJn8izcKtg/w-d-xo.html) but the huge flow rate of this eruption could be leading to them becoming so large they collapse under their own weight. It's only a theory, though.
Possibly a tube formed over a bubble of water, and when enough lava hit that point, the water underneath went to steam and blew everything straight up? That would blast a hole in the water, allowing more lava to come in, and would explain the large chunks of debris. Confined explosions are always nastier.
Troy Belding it couldn't form above since the denser lava would displace the water, it could build up to form a taller structure than the material at the bottom could support
I was thinking more of a shelf extension being pushed out, with the outer shell both holding it up and insulating. It wouldn't have to last long - just a few minutes. Extend over, then slowly hit the actual bottom, then breaking open It wouldn't take more than a few gallons of water to cause a rupture like the one shown in the videos. Mind you, it's all pure conjecture, and I'm not going to volunteer to watch and experiment up close.
There's no possibility of re-sealing the conduit beneath Kilauea (collapse would cause massive explosions, redirection would cause endless drainage), and there is little resistance along the fissure line - this must have been an ancient channel which was loosely covered over centuries. Fissure 8 will continue to flow at its current rate, while the cone builds, and buries Leilani Estates. The northern channel which flows into Kapoho will continue to expand toward Nanawale Estates, possibly flowing into that area at a high rate if the lava spills over near the peak (just north of PGV), and resulting in additional loss of property. Check the eastern end of the rift zone on the USGS map, and you'll see that the masked area which is east of "Cinder Pit Lobe" will also be entirely covered/destroyed. Everything along the coast of Pohoiki will be destroyed. There's no reason for concern in the Kalapana and Black Sands areas, and no possibility of any massive explosion/eruption. The Halema'uma'u crater will not be refilled due to the formation of new conduits and channels, and the 'lava river' might become a permanent tourist attraction. Conspiracy theorists will finally realize that geothermal wells couldn't possibly have caused destabilization of the Halema'uma'u crater.
Michael Kenyon I’m not an American like you probably are. So yeah I did study beyond HS and College and I speak more than one language. Opposite to you that probably only speaks English like majority of Americans. How do you like being judge buddy.
Some of the properties in Puna are listed on real estate sites....that is how these unfortunate people came to this....real estate people have no scruples...vultures..
The USGS volcanologist who starts this seems to be assuming that there are people 'out there' who are querying whether 'this has happened before'. What? Big Island, Hawaii is known - throughout the World - as THE biggest volcano on Earth. How can anyone, who knows anything about plate tectonics and geological processes, even imagine that the present eruption of Kilauea might be 'new' or 'unprecedented'? What I would say, however, is a huge THANKS! to all the brave people (and they ARE brave!) who have placed such wonderful video footage on TH-cam, for those of us thousands of miles away, to watch.
Mark Dyer How many times does he have to say "unprecedented in the last 200 years" for you to get he's referring to the last 200 years not the entire history of the volcano?
Mark Dyer--First of all, The Big Island is NOT the largest volcano on the planet--Mauna Loa is and the BI is not just one volcano. This has nothing to do with plate tectonics jackass, Hawai'i sits 2500 miles from any plate boundary. He's not assuming anything, he's using past recorded eruptions as a direct comparison to the current activity in order to help people gauge the scale, volume, longetivity and summit activity. He never suggested this activity is the first of its kind, what he's saying is in the past 200 years of recorded eruptions the volume of lava being effused is unprecedented. Clearly he didn't dumb it down enough because you still don't get it. Idiot.
Actually no. I don’t think Hawaii is known throughout the world as the biggest volcano on Earth. A lot of people are oblivious to the size of Mauna Loa. They might only have heard of Hawaii from TV programmes, or from surfing. Others know that Hawaii is where you can get to see some slow moving lava. It is so far removed from their daily life, and so far away from many people that people like me who express an interest in what is happening are met with blank looks. But if you mention Iceland or Vesuvius or Etna, or Krakatoa, or the volcanoes they might see on the Canary Islands on holiday, then you get more response. Yesterday the news showed the lava boat hit by the lava bomb. It was all so brief though. To know what is happening, You Tube and Facebook are the main sources. It is so easy for those of us who are interested, to assume that others share our interest, but it simply isn’t the case I find. 😀 I like this scientist. We must remember that he isn’t talking to geologists, or scientists or to hobby volcanologists, so he needs to make things clear, simple, relevant to daily lives, and contain sound bites that people can remember easily and repeat. 😊
Mark__ It is unprecedented as far as what has actually been OBSERVED. Do you realize that the first Written description of Halema'uma'u volcanic activity was in 1823, less than 200 years ago? And that the Hawaii Volcano Observatory was only established in 1912. This means that we have only 106 years of recorded data and about half of that was done with equipment that is now obsolete. So I would say yeah, we are still in a learning process where we haven't had enough experience or data to predict exactly what happens next. I have personally seen Halema'uma'u activity for 63 years and NO scenario has repeated itself twice in all those years.
The shear volume indicates motion, ultimately, of the ENTIRE Pacific plate. Yes? So, probability includes the motion of a new crack, a GREAT GREAT likelihood this specific location, itself, will gain a name, and SOON. To corroborate that assumption, because that is all this can be without any submarine data b4hand, and the water bubble doomed to not being able to produce ANY back pressure whatsoever, pretty fu'n unique, with no second data point, thus valueless, really, I vote for it being the passage of "The Great Crack" extending. If so, what next? Sonar?
I have watched both docs on the past crater explosions, one in the 60's and one the 1800's both lavas were worse. They are here on youtube channel. One fissure was measured lava almost 1800ft high if not higher.
Clos MasMas--Do you even live here? Most locals call it HA LAY, and they're wrong. It actually is pronounced HAIL. Named after Issac Hale a private who died in the Korean War.
On the boat tours, You allow people with special permit to float nearer then others for a few extra bucks or a little ass kissing, right? Who gives a shit if someone gets f***up.
Now, the government is looking for a place that tourist can see the lava at a safe distance. Safe distance, what would that be?Damn they miss those tourist dollars. Just raise taxes on the rich and solve the tourist dollar problem.
There are so many cones under neath the ocean in this area the deepth of ocean there this is a HUUGE volcano like Mt Everest Huge no other eruption in water pehapes🤔It's her island her Riftzo e wooooaaw she's reclaiming it respect 🙌🙌🙌
This is minor...just wait until "The great and terrible day of the Lord" comes...repent now and turn to the Lord Christ Jesus as there is no other name under heaven that can save. For the wage of sin is death, but there is a free gift from God which is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. Confess with thy mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the grave and be saved and He will wash away your sins by the power of His blood.
has anyone seen the movie about mount saint helens david johnston the geologist that was killed when the volcano went off was up at spirit lake lodge trying to warn people about what could happen some of those people were scoffers who did not believe what he told them would happen some of those people are among the 58 dead david was a scientist who studies these things and we know more now! then we did then if an expert on a subject tells me something i'm going to heed his advice because he probably knows something i don't stupid people get a stubborn attitude and they think he just trying to ruin our party before mount saint helens in 1980 we had no history of this erupting volcano in the usa and most people are like yea right it will never happen . now people are shooting there mouth off about yellowstone even people who know next to nothing about the subject of volcanology are getting involved if you don't know what your talking about then shut up !!!! yellowstone is for the experts on the subject and i don't listen to a blowhard who wants to look like he knows i hate ignorant stupidity ((a person who has bad info or no info at all))
Why is every USGS presentation a history lesson!??? Any idiot can give a history lesson. How about you explain what is happening NOW, and tell us what is going to happen in the FUTURE, like scientists should be paid to do?!!?
you don't understand basic common sense, or science, or the ideas of principle or purpose, or the idea of professionalism, or the basic idea of non-emotional scientific thinking, the idea of humility, the idea of serving the people that pay your salary, or doing the right thing.
geology is about understanding what happened in the past to put what we see today in context, and give us some idea about what is likely to happen in the future. So yeah.... history is baked in to basic geology.
All you need is definition of the current state and the set of equations that determine the dynamics of the system, and you solve them for the future state, NO HISTORY IS NECESSARY.
Oh, that You would rend the heavens! That You would come down! That the mountains might shake at Your presence- As fire burns brushwood, As fire causes water to boil- To make Your name known to Your adversaries, That the nations may tremble at Your presence! Isaiah 64:1-2
I understand that your wet dream is see your deity appear and kill all and then condemn everyone to eternal torture, apart from the worthy from within your particular version of deity worship. Sorry but you’re wrong, both morally and factually. This is part of a natural event of island building that’s been going on for 5 million years, with just this island, so who was your goddess angry with then? Please try not to project your pathetic mental inadequacies on to others. Try to think for yourself.
DaniEl Ben Freeman This kind of comment endears nobody to your belief system. Try kindness, love, peace and joy. Fear turns people off unless they know where you are coming from 😀
why is he giving us the statistics in meters? I thought Hawaii was American and we use inches feet in miles Etc. If you're going to say meters at least give us the conversion are you just afraid that we're going to be mind boggled at the reality of the numbers?
1 meter = 3.34 feet (roughly) or, since he's estimating anyway, one meter = one yard Scientists use the metric system because the entire world uses it, except for the US. Contrary to what most people in the US think, we AREN'T the center of the universe, and it makes more sense to use a consistent system of measurement that everyone in the global scientific community uses.
But since he is reporting to the public that provides his paycheck it would be nice of him to report it in both measurements that makes it easier for the Americans who were brought up under the old system and it helps them understand the conversion system. They might learn something what a meter is compared to a yard or a foot. It's just common decency to translate it I would think. After all he's talking to civilians not other scientists.
Looks pretty professional to me. Keep in mind he is a working scientist, not an entertainment or documentary producer who can spend months or years creating a show. He will be back in the lab or on site taking measurements shortly after this public meeting.
He was giving a talk in a frickin community center room with a computer slide projector on the wall, what the hell kind of audiovisual do you think that gives?
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Thank you for taking the time to collect the data and present it. The information you provide is fascinating and your expertise is appreciated. My sympathies to all the people who have lost property due to this event.
That was a great, very thorough presentation. Thank you . . .
This event is making history right before our eyes
Scott Wheeler
Blame it on the democrats!
Super Dave most things I can but not this one lol
Making island. .smh
glen trs no duh
Great video. Thank you for this update and for the fine work at the USGS.
Hi, I am from South Africa and have been monitoring your comments and video's since this eruption started. Thank you for your reports on this occurrence. In our country, people can not start to grasp the immensity of what is happening in Hawaii. I certainly feel and have compassion with you folk.
Great update! Thanks so much for taking the time to help us understand what's going on at this point. Great video and photos. Really helps with the visuals.
Thank you so much for making this footage available to everybody. Very informative.
Fascinating and terrifying at the same time. My heart goes out to those who have lost homes, properties and businesses. I imagine something like this happening to my family's farm (and in earthquake country it could, any day) and wonder how we'd cope...
Box Licker- Lol, I find most cats more logical and sympathetic than some TH-cam commentators.
This is no big cataclysmic destruction.......
The amount of land impacted is negligible!
Super Dave- people are still losing homes and livelihoods, which was the point of my comment. Sure, compared to many other disasters it doesn't add up to much, but it's still loss and displacement at a level I can relate to.
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It's barely a hiccup as far as volcanoes go! A few homes..... no big deal. If you think this is a cataclysmic eruption, take another look at the wildfires burning in California and the rest of the mainland.
Super Dave- why yes, that's what I just said. I agree that this isn't on the scale of those wildfires, or the eruption in Guatemala. I just said it's something I can empathize with.
On the spot evolving volcanology and scientific insight in the making, super presentation and fantastic too with modern technology be able to watch all the events that are unfolding and see the digital images of before and now.
As I and the world watches in awe of the volume of land been produced by this spectacular event , I also consider those who have lost so much in these past weeks and hope resolution be found, to their loss and the uncertainty of finding new permanent homes to allow their lives to get back on track as these day go by.
Ka malhuia
We don't have time for this volcano stuff, President Trump is on the CNN news concerning his orders for the Secret Service to shoot the White House pigeons. The pigeons are crapping all over the place. The President is outraged, birds are dying, people are protesting in the streets. There is more important news than a silly volcano. Oh, yeah, and CNN is also outraged that Hillary lost the election, CNN is running a five hour explanation special about why she lost. Much more important than a volcano.
Mahalo USGS for keeping up so well informed. For some of us living with this here in Lower Puna, information and historical context is helpful in coping, if not exactly encouraging.
The USGS is an awesome institute that provides lots of useful and interesting information to the public. I've learned so much from them about geology and volcanism, watching their video's. We have nothing in Europe that even tries to compare with them!
The Italian INGV or National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology (Italian: Istituto Nazionale Geofisica e Vulcanologia) does outstanding work on volcanos and earthquakes and is a partner to the USGS. Not surprising since Italy has more active volcanos close to where people live than the USA.
Yeah well, I guess people study what affects them the most. Not exactly tripping over volcanoes in europe, whereas the Americas have them all over the place.
Nice to see that he has gained a lot more confidence in the presentation. Now a very good public speaker.
This gentleman describes the situation very well for someone like me to understand.
I think what's clear here is that the government officials will be taking a wait and see approach, emphasizing that great care needs to be taken, and that they will keep us all posted with more updates as they become available. Thank you.
Fantastic update, thank you.
Despite the destruction of this event, I can't believe how awesome it is and how much knowledge will be gained.
The world came together when the Thai soccer team were trapped. My all our thoughts and prayers go to each and every government the who exists today, who have the power to lay down arms and live in peace and harmony. Let all the people of earth share in our earths riches together, and war only against poverty, until poverty is removed from earth, once and for all. Love & Peace
Did the Thai soccer team win the World Cup?
Can you get the military to overfly at night to get FLIR images? I wonder if you could map lava tubes that way. Also do you have complete gas analyses on the emissions? All of the videos that I have seen only mention more/less SO2. Is N2 present in the gas?
Great information. Great study. great diligence. Thank you.
unprecedented in the last 200 years is an understatement, as this appears twice the size of the largest Kilauea eruption, 1840, and still continuing.
I been keeping up with you all for weeks and be safe and prayers from Tx
The helicopter overflight video is always good. If it is safe, can you please get some video from the area of the Kapoho crater where the main flow direction changed last week?
And, Why was the flow restriction at Kapoho Crater allowed to change the flow of the lava? Why wasn't the obstruction removed by demolition?
Third unanswered question: does anyone know the approximate average depth of the lava channel?
They don't try to control the lava because they know better. It failed in the 50's when they tried building earthen levies and this eruption is way bigger. How exactly would you propose a lava dam to be demolished in the middle of a raging river of 2000 degree molten lava? Nobody can even get close to the lava river.
Yeah, good idea. How do you propose to remove by demilition such an obstruction, bearing in mind they had maybe an hour's warning it would happen?
You do know you can't drive any sort of heavy equipment on the crusted lava dams either side of the flow, don't you?
How would you use explosives, given that they only work by being buried in substrate? You volunteering to either drive a dozer out there, or go out with a drill rig and drill moving lava?
Idiot.
Helicopter, demolition experts, testing, preparation, care. That's the approach this idiot would take. Don't be a defeatist.
Great report, thanks!
Estimated volume of the caldera collapse is about 700 million cubic meters but the estimated lava emissions from 2018 fissures so far is approximately 440 million cubic meters. I wonder what happened to the other 260 million cubic meters of lava? Did it move from the Kilauea magma reservoir into the East rift zone? If so, should we expect to see at least 260 million more cubic meters of lava to come out of fissure 8? Should we expect the current eruption to continue as long as the collapse events at the summit continue?
Expect the lava flow at Kapoho to continue unabated until the lava channel gets clogged for whatever reason. At which point the lava will promptly resume its flow from Pu'o'o, as it had been doing NON-STOP from jan 3 1983 until end of april 2018 when it, too, suffered a collapse. It is the same lava source, fed through the same lave channels, that has fed 2.7 billion m3 of lava tthrough Pu'o'o in the last 35 years, and now some 0.45 billion from Kapoho.
Where has that pahoehoe lava been going is it underground and it's just going out towards the sea because I didn't know that there was a live lava flow on the island nobody was talking about it?
Thank you
As a comparison, the Holuhraun eruption expelled in excess of 1400 MCM of lava between a six month period between 2014 and 2015.
What comparisons do we have with pre-(western)-historic flows? I've visited Hawaii before including this side of the island. I know the Kona side is covered in many enormous flows from the past. What kinds of size and scale comparison data is available from the remnants of these events?
If this event continues to grow in scale, what is the worst case potential scenario at a probability of 50%, 10%, and 1%?
-Jake
All of the recent massive lava flows on Hawaii are from Mauna Loa, which has a much larger magma reservoir than Kilauea. I am not a volcanologist, but I don't think Kilauea is (yet) capable of creating the type of enormous lava flows that emerged in the near past (e.g. 19th century) from Mauna Loa. Hawaiians outside of the Kilauea rift zones should probably more concerned about a future Mauna Loa eruption.
Maybe thermal expansion of the crust is exerting greater pressure and is contributing to the record breaking volume.
From what I heard today also, the ash plume from frequent actual eruptions can be thousands of feet in height, yet we are not seeing any of that. How come? Sometimes also the image is not onscreen for long enough to take it in. Thanks
Thanks for the info.
Please show the interpretor's hands esp if gonna show her face. Bothers me so much.
That river of lava is amazing...just like a regular river flowing to the sea...
I cringed when Steve kept mispronouncing Isaac Hale. Hale is pronounced "ha- lay" and not "hail." Isaac Kepo'okalani Hale was the first Hawaiian US soldier killed in the Korean War on 7/12/1951. The official name of the beach park is the Isaac Hale Memorial Beach Park. This may sound like a minor issue compared to the magnitude and scope of the current eruption, but I think proper respect for this brave man's sacrifice is still due, especially since it appears that we may lose this special beach park and boat ramp dedicated in the memory of this "Son of Hawaii."
You are correct. This is a very minor point; and really unimportant to the discussion of volcanism history.
You are absolutely correct that it's a very minor issue. In English, which is what the bulk of the vulcanologists of the USGS speak, it's 'hay-ell', generally as one syllable. As in "Hale and Hearty'. The ones that know how to separate it into two distinct syllables know the difference, and are probably listening for information. Especially with the name simply being 'Isaac Hale', I think anyone would be forgiven for thinking it's a purely European name.
I would suspect that even if the beach park and ramp are destroyed, in a few years, they'll be back in the same spot, or at least a similar one. Keep in mind that much of the area covered by lava flows now - including where houses were - was covered with lava flows in the 1950's and 60's. So, people will rebuild the roads, and put the boat launches and parks back in because, well, they need and want them.
ive never heard it pronounced and differently. even by the the civil defense people.
. . . I commend your point on correct pronunciation. If not corrected,
mispronunciations or misspellings only get multiplied and perpetuated.
The history of these islands and their former cultural domain should be
studied and respected by the colonialists who gained acquisition by
trickery. The culture, like all others, has good and bad aspects, but we
should learn and enjoy positive features such as the true pronunciation.
I wonder, for all the rock expelled, what is left behind under the crust? Hollow islands?
Is there a way to tell how much magma is left in the magma chamber and how much further the level will fall before it will be level to the path to the rift zone.
Craig K--The magma chamber is constantly replenished by magma coming up from the mantle, in theory, there's an endless supply.
Thanks for your reply. I should have been more detailed in my question. Given the current rate of the magma chamber lowering (which is causing the collapse events at the summit) and taking into account that new lava is flowing into the magma chamber at a rate that is lower that what is flowing into the rift, what is the estimate of when the magma chamber level will reach (if ever) the level of path the the rift zone.
Craig: The current flow rate does massively exceed the steady-state refill rate of the main magma chamber.
If we assume the volcano itself still operates at its somewhat steady predictable rate, we can expect the lava flow to continue at this rate for about 1-2 month more, then reduce to 1/3 the rate. Which rate will be sustained indefinitely.
More likely though, once the rate reduces, the lava feed towards Kapoho will clog, and the flow will exit from Pu'o'o, as it has been doing for the last 35 years.
Marvin Kitfox--Agreed, good explanation. There's most likely a blockage or pinch point from the magma reservoir plume to the summit magma chamber and the opening to the LERZ, has been widened-likely from the M6.9 quake-enabling the magma to flow freely downslope through the already established cracks in the rift zone. Path of least resistance. Possibly once the upwelling decreases and if the conduit to the summit opens up enough we may start to see the summit chamber refilling at a higher rate than the rate at which it's draining downslope.
Thank you for this very good explanation my concern has been could this be a new movement a new hole in the under I don't know the term where a new whole is coming up through the magma new opening almost like a new volcano is what I'm trying to say my dad died and he was a geologist he knew all about this and and he was concerned he just passed away that as the plates move and Hawaii is still being built that there could be new volcanoes come up and the USGS would think oh this is the same old thing thinking that it's attached to the same volcanoes but it's not he felt that his companions were becoming very complacent he worked with the USGS out here in the western states and was very concerned about Mammoth and Yellowstone and now Yellowstone has two unusual events that guys are that usually doesn't go off and a rift that has opened up I'm sure he would be very concerned he was the one who told me what's happening with climate change has nothing to do with our emissions man-made as a matter of fact the Clean Air has caused the world to become warmer because we don't have the cloud cover that provided the rain and he felt bad about that but he said it is better to get the impurities out of the air however he said the melting of the ice was caused by the volcanic action that the volcanoes are waking up it's their time to start working they've been sleeping and that's why Mount Saint Helens went off. He was worried that Western scientist didn't listen to the native peoples and did not really get a good handle until too late on Saint Helens that they really needed to realize and they didn't realize it until the end of this Century that these volcanic activities are consistently on a timer that the stories the native peoples could tell about their history would help them be able to time the volcanoes or the volcanic action they also went out and like in Washington state were able to find the dead tree areas that timed it but they had originally thought the dead trees were caused by flooding they later found out that they were caused by volcanic action. my dad said that when volcanoes run late it's more cataclysmic I'm sure he would have loved to be watching all of this he was 89 and in perfect health able to still climb mountains I think it was all those years of climbing rock and studying it and working in it just he had a little aneurysm by his heart and the doctors didn't go in and do the seal that they had promised us because he was over 70 and they don't do surgery on 70 year olds anymore they are expendable and he overdid it at the house doing some work and stressed it and it leaked just like a little volcano and he slowly wound down and passed away laughing with his family around him
wow that blast going off is there not a valcano under the waters in that area that went off ?
Still no lava monster sightings?
Had his nerves much better handled this time. Practice, practice, practice.
Wondering if this will be affecting climate on west coat of u.s., if lava continues flowing for some years?
Will we get a stronger Pineapple Express or El Niño?
John v Willoughby Yes..it is warm air with lots of rain in the winter...the current travels from the South Pacific up the west coast USA in the winter some years..especially El Niño years.....I believe an elevation in ocean temperatures contributes.
On a global scale this is a tiny eruption.
Yes, the temperatures of the Pacific Ocean affect the atmospheric rivers that bring rain to the West Coast of North America, sometimes called the Pineapple Express. The volcanic eruptions are too small to affect a significant part of the ocean. They only affect the weather in a limited area near the island.
Actually, the S02 emissions from this eruption are pretty significant, both in volume and duration. I'd be surprised if it didn't at least slightly change climate for a few years.
S02 is actually a COOLING greenhouse gas, and emissions have been in steady decline for the past few decades- which does nothing for the ignorant bandwagon climate change zealots who claim EVERYTHING is to do with C02 and label anyone who dares to speak anything to the contrary as ignorant and dumb, which is exactly what it is to blindly parrot uninformed psuedo science....
So what volume has collapsed at the summit? Does it compare to the erupted volume?
watch the video?
I did watch the video and I just watched it again. I see how I missed it the first time. . . . .
Impossible to follow. The eruption is so complex you'd think he would have some computed graphics by now to help us understand what happened and what is happening. What about the night all the homes burned? What happened????
Does the collapsing material turn to magma and fuel the lava flow also ?
Glen Hoban--No, it doesn't work that way, the collapsed material is merely filling up the hole left by the summit magma chamber evacuating its contents downrift into the lower East Rift Zone. The collapsed material does pressurize the system which is why there's a surge of effusion at fissure 8 roughly 2 hours after a collapse event at the summit.
Da Braddah .. ahh cool , thnx :)
So this eruption has produced 0.45 cu. km. of lava in the first 80 days. That is certainly much smaller than the Laki eruption of 1783-84, which put out 14 cubic kilometers of lava. That one lasted about 180 days; if this one has a similar run, it will end up with about 1 cubic kilometer total. But time will tell....
The plume at minute 6:05, in its shape, resembles a cat sitting up and facing toward the right side of the screen, with 2 little ears on top. :)
....then, when it all drains out, will it begin to fill again? Thankyou
Yup. Inexhaustible supply down below.
Superb summary!
4:50 um 2 things, 1 satalights in space that have thermal vision & 2 helicopters that have thermal vision, cant you use those to detect where its flowing underground via where its hottest from lava that has cooled down a bit?
Val Tozer Yes they do have thermal images. Look at usgs facebook or website. Also Philip Ong does some fabulous analysis.
Thanks for factual detailed update. I think that the lava exploding on hitting the ocean is down to rapid chemical & mineral reactions with gases and the composition& heat of the lava and the ocean &cold. But it’s just a guess an nowhere near easy to explain how possible it would be to experiment on that theory
Anybody know if the explosion occurred at high tide? The additional weight of water over a tube may have contributed to calving or collapse that suddenly exposed a large submarine area of lava to water that immediately flashed to steam causing an explosion. Steam expansion releases a tremendous amount of mechanical energy!
Excellent Steve's speech! Explanations clear and correct for the public.
Best report
These summit reports are laid out for ppl who know what the area looks like. If you've never seen Kilauea Crater bf, its pretty obvious from these reports you couldn't have the slightest clue as to what's going on.
Or lava flowed over some water. Created a pocket of water underneath the lava. When the lava cooled and Sealed the pocket. It pressurizes the steam until it explodes. Sending the molten lava above it into the air.
Throughout this event I have been stunned that our technology cannot track underground flows. It would seem IR tech would be able to read the differences in temperatures precise enough to give us a cohesive underground conduit system, not just after exit from fissure 8, but from the summit or from the magma source.
Ron Dye Channel--They know where the East Rift Zone is, they know where it goes. You can't accurately predict at what point within the hundreds of subsurface cracks magma will come to the surface even with the use of tech.
If magma is moving beneath the surface the cracks and channels should show up as varying temperatures and volume (size) based on their movement. I would think. I'm no geologist (are you??) but I would bet the substrate has a large variance in temperature. Gee they could find a tank under the sand in Desert Storm.
The lava is flowing through lava.
Duh, and what are you contributing with that statement?
Tanks and sand have very different characteristics. Lava and lava, not so much.
What would happen if we drop large bunker busters in all the vents at the same time? We don't know till we try it.
Just have all the Chinese jump up and down at the same time.
. . . The volume and force of "bunker-buster" bombs is trivial
compared to the pressure and weight of the emerging lava.
The most you could accomplish would be to momentarily
collapse edges of the cone around the vent, which if they
fell into and obstructed the flow, would only result in a fol-
lowing explosion-plume as the vent flow burst through to
continue its flow unabated. Likewise, bombing the subter-
ranean channel anywhere in the rift zone to block flow would
only result in temporary diversion to new vents; there's no way
humans can stop a volcano.
In the explosion footage. It looked like lightening in the cloud? Is that possible?
MC: Yes you are seeing lightning. This was confirmed in the USGS HVA brief on Monday.
How many coal power plants would it take to create this much pollution? Just curious.
5:48 um cant you dig up a trench and use concrete blockade to help guide the flow and do a little offensive?
LOL Maybe you should volunteer to pee on it to cool it down. drrr....
They tried it in previous eruptions - it didn't work. Taking the flow rate numbers from this video and an approximate density for basaltic lava, we're talking about a lava delivery rate of round about 300 tons per second. Just think about that, maybe 10 dump truck loads - every second. You are simply not going to hold that back with a bit of concrete.
Duct tape.
. . . [to Alan Mumford] Thank you! Facts put the answer into true perspective.
In Italy, the residents used water to quicken the solidification to form a dam and saved their village.
saw lightning inside the plume from the littoral explosion
Those of us who live in an earthquake or tsunami zone need to think about what we would do.
Why they dont understand whats causing the expolsion at oceanentry ? Into the lavaflow some nearby totally molten Boulders just gets with the flow, and if those reaching the Oceanentry before totally breaking of due to that travel, and hits the Water those Boulders react like a Grenade. Its simpler than you can imagine, right ?
Blowfish are down there holding their breath and when the lava hits...you can imagine.
👍thanks it's amazing
I wonder if fissure 8 will become the new crater?
Can I put my credit card debt in the reservoir? Nice report!
The big expulsion of yesterday look more like a under water volcano about to pop out , we see orange lava and lightning, how lava can still orange after crossing water???
Daa3.1416 Saa
He explained that they suspect the lava may have formed a lava tube underwater. If part of the underwater lavarock shelf broke off (calved- like chunks breaking/calving off a glacier) then large volumes of liquid molten lava suddenly met the water. The heat turned the water to steam which expands quickly and goes kaboom with all the mixed liquid lava and steam pushed upwards.
Steam from water expands in volume by something like 1800 times. You could power a locomotive with that kind of energy.
Wonder how the emissions would compare to, say, a city of 1million
I don't know man, I see that summit collapse and every fibre of my being says 'that things about to blow Biblical'
wrong
Most likely that won't happen.
timefilm I understand your concern but this time your fibers don't quite know how volcanos work. Go back and look at Mt Saint Hellans minute by minute video. The bulge is caused by traped lava under pressure. But here we have collapse due to draining of lava away from the crater. Aloha!
It just isn't a Ring of Fire volcano and it will never act like one.
we'll see
Good job!
Now, let's find out who's too ignorant to learn anything.
7:00 - My theory on what causes those explosive events is pillow lava builds up below the surface and piles on top of itself until the structure becomes unstable and it collapses down, when it does the structure breaks apart and the hot inner sections flash boil the sea, creating vast amounts of steam which explode outward carrying some of the hot formation with it.
Xaiano that is basically what he said, but he mentioned the word Calving, which is where basically a bit breaks off. So if a tube has formed and then a bit fails above, W reading into the tube, the resulting meeting of water and lava can cause a steam eruption.
yeah I think it's similar but a different mechanism - a tube wouldn't create a large explosion because of the limited surface area in contact with the water - the steam would propel water away from the lava (aka the Leidenfrost effect), however if the material avalanched down, it would break up as it fell, exponentially increasing the surface area as it does and this could lead to a large explosive event.
Pillow lava normally forms small formations (th-cam.com/video/xsJn8izcKtg/w-d-xo.html) but the huge flow rate of this eruption could be leading to them becoming so large they collapse under their own weight.
It's only a theory, though.
Possibly a tube formed over a bubble of water, and when enough lava hit that point, the water underneath went to steam and blew everything straight up? That would blast a hole in the water, allowing more lava to come in, and would explain the large chunks of debris. Confined explosions are always nastier.
Troy Belding it couldn't form above since the denser lava would displace the water, it could build up to form a taller structure than the material at the bottom could support
I was thinking more of a shelf extension being pushed out, with the outer shell both holding it up and insulating. It wouldn't have to last long - just a few minutes. Extend over, then slowly hit the actual bottom, then breaking open It wouldn't take more than a few gallons of water to cause a rupture like the one shown in the videos.
Mind you, it's all pure conjecture, and I'm not going to volunteer to watch and experiment up close.
11:11
Its is pretty surprising
I disagree. The results should have been obvious to everyone when the flow rates and fissure alignment were revealed.
Forest Gump: so predict the next 80 days for us, genius.
There's no possibility of re-sealing the conduit beneath Kilauea (collapse would cause massive explosions, redirection would cause endless drainage), and there is little resistance along the fissure line - this must have been an ancient channel which was loosely covered over centuries. Fissure 8 will continue to flow at its current rate, while the cone builds, and buries Leilani Estates. The northern channel which flows into Kapoho will continue to expand toward Nanawale Estates, possibly flowing into that area at a high rate if the lava spills over near the peak (just north of PGV), and resulting in additional loss of property. Check the eastern end of the rift zone on the USGS map, and you'll see that the masked area which is east of "Cinder Pit Lobe" will also be entirely covered/destroyed. Everything along the coast of Pohoiki will be destroyed. There's no reason for concern in the Kalapana and Black Sands areas, and no possibility of any massive explosion/eruption. The Halema'uma'u crater will not be refilled due to the formation of new conduits and channels, and the 'lava river' might become a permanent tourist attraction. Conspiracy theorists will finally realize that geothermal wells couldn't possibly have caused destabilization of the Halema'uma'u crater.
I kind of think that Fissure 8 will stop and the main conduit will refill.
Hopefully everyone will be driving tanks and living in bunkers which can withstand a nuclear explosion when that happens.
I like the fact that they know what happenned but have no freaking clue what the hell is about to happen.
Krakatoa...... instant re-play.
yes, and?
Michael Kenyon you like listening to supposé professionals going. haaaaaa. Haaaaa and haaaaaaa. Haaaaaaaa
They are professionals.
Did you study science beyond high school? I doubt it.
Michael Kenyon I’m not an American like you probably are. So yeah I did study beyond HS and College and I speak more than one language. Opposite to you that probably only speaks English like majority of Americans. How do you like being judge buddy.
Some of the properties in Puna are listed on real estate sites....that is how these unfortunate people came to this....real estate people have no scruples...vultures..
The USGS volcanologist who starts this seems to be assuming that there are people 'out there' who are querying whether 'this has happened before'. What? Big Island, Hawaii is known - throughout the World - as THE biggest volcano on Earth. How can anyone, who knows anything about plate tectonics and geological processes, even imagine that the present eruption of Kilauea might be 'new' or 'unprecedented'? What I would say, however, is a huge THANKS! to all the brave people (and they ARE brave!) who have placed such wonderful video footage on TH-cam, for those of us thousands of miles away, to watch.
Mark Dyer
How many times does he have to say "unprecedented in the last 200 years" for you to get he's referring to the last 200 years not the entire history of the volcano?
Mark Dyer--First of all, The Big Island is NOT the largest volcano on the planet--Mauna Loa is and the BI is not just one volcano. This has nothing to do with plate tectonics jackass, Hawai'i sits 2500 miles from any plate boundary. He's not assuming anything, he's using past recorded eruptions as a direct comparison to the current activity in order to help people gauge the scale, volume, longetivity and summit activity. He never suggested this activity is the first of its kind, what he's saying is in the past 200 years of recorded eruptions the volume of lava being effused is unprecedented. Clearly he didn't dumb it down enough because you still don't get it. Idiot.
Mark Dyer--By the way, only a complete fucking loser likes his own post.
Actually no. I don’t think Hawaii is known throughout the world as the biggest volcano on Earth. A lot of people are oblivious to the size of Mauna Loa. They might only have heard of Hawaii from TV programmes, or from surfing. Others know that Hawaii is where you can get to see some slow moving lava.
It is so far removed from their daily life, and so far away from many people that people like me who express an interest in what is happening are met with blank looks. But if you mention Iceland or Vesuvius or Etna, or Krakatoa, or the volcanoes they might see on the Canary Islands on holiday, then you get more response.
Yesterday the news showed the lava boat hit by the lava bomb. It was all so brief though. To know what is happening, You Tube and Facebook are the main sources.
It is so easy for those of us who are interested, to assume that others share our interest, but it simply isn’t the case I find. 😀
I like this scientist. We must remember that he isn’t talking to geologists, or scientists or to hobby volcanologists, so he needs to make things clear, simple, relevant to daily lives, and contain sound bites that people can remember easily and repeat. 😊
Mark__ It is unprecedented as far as what has actually been OBSERVED. Do you realize that the first Written description of Halema'uma'u volcanic activity was in 1823, less than 200 years ago? And that the Hawaii Volcano Observatory was only established in 1912. This means that we have only 106 years of recorded data and about half of that was done with equipment that is now obsolete. So I would say yeah, we are still in a learning process where we haven't had enough experience or data to predict exactly what happens next. I have personally seen Halema'uma'u activity for 63 years and NO scenario has repeated itself twice in all those years.
😎 yes I agree we need a few drone fly overs
The shear volume indicates motion, ultimately, of the ENTIRE Pacific plate. Yes? So, probability includes the motion of a new crack, a GREAT GREAT likelihood this specific location, itself, will gain a name, and SOON.
To corroborate that assumption, because that is all this can be without any submarine data b4hand, and the water bubble doomed to not being able to produce ANY back pressure whatsoever, pretty fu'n unique, with no second data point, thus valueless, really, I vote for it being the passage of "The Great Crack" extending.
If so, what next? Sonar?
Beware Kanaka Maoli Da Devil Is A Liar!!! 'Ai Mama Pele 'Ai Ā Mā'ona!!! Mahalo NAloha
I have watched both docs on the past crater explosions, one in the 60's and one the 1800's both lavas were worse. They are here on youtube channel. One fissure was measured lava almost 1800ft high if not higher.
Height does not equal volume. You should try to understand things better before claiming something that is wrong.
Tomrrow and 7weeks out😔
"Experts"..my foot!
200 years is barely a fart in geologic time so that doesn't really mean anything at all.
Hawaiian volcanic, coastal slumping.
Volcano needs better posture. Self-confidence. PMA.
Time to move out people. Not a very healthy environment to live in on the ,big Island . Good luck God bless. Take care. Aloha!
It’s not Pronounced Issac Hail, it’s pronounced Issac hah-lay
Correction: I was wrong read the first comment for the right information
Clos MasMas--Do you even live here? Most locals call it HA LAY, and they're wrong. It actually is pronounced HAIL. Named after Issac Hale a private who died in the Korean War.
Da Braddah okay my mistake, and yes I do live here in Hawaii
Clos MasMas--All good brah. I called it HA LAY forever until I researched it. All the local braddahs think I'm wrong tho.
HAHAHHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
6:11
Cat face plume is what they called that.😐
I think its about time we pull the plug on Harry Kim...
So its unprecedented but its not ... I'm confused.
200 years.
On the boat tours, You allow people with special permit to float nearer then others for a few extra bucks or a little ass kissing, right? Who gives a shit if someone gets f***up.
Get to the chopper
Now, the government is looking for a place that tourist can see the lava at a safe distance. Safe distance, what would that be?Damn they miss those tourist dollars. Just raise taxes on the rich and solve the tourist dollar problem.
There are so many cones under neath the ocean in this area the deepth of ocean there this is a HUUGE volcano like Mt Everest Huge no other eruption in water pehapes🤔It's her island her Riftzo e wooooaaw she's reclaiming it respect 🙌🙌🙌
T Love--You are an idiot and you make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Please shut the fuck up, jackass.
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This is minor...just wait until "The great and terrible day of the Lord" comes...repent now and turn to the Lord Christ Jesus as there is no other name under heaven that can save. For the wage of sin is death, but there is a free gift from God which is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. Confess with thy mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the grave and be saved and He will wash away your sins by the power of His blood.
The god poop poo is mad at you you.........
has anyone seen the movie about mount saint helens david johnston the geologist that was killed when the volcano went off was up at spirit lake lodge trying to warn people about what could happen some of those people were scoffers who did not believe what he told them would happen some of those people are among the 58 dead david was a scientist who studies these things and we know more now! then we did then if an expert on a subject tells me something i'm going to heed his advice because he probably knows something i don't stupid people get a stubborn attitude and they think he just trying to ruin our party before mount saint helens in 1980 we had no history of this erupting volcano in the usa and most people are like yea right it will never happen . now people are shooting there mouth off about yellowstone even people who know next to nothing about the subject of volcanology are getting involved if you don't know what your talking about then shut up !!!! yellowstone is for the experts on the subject and i don't listen to a blowhard who wants to look like he knows i hate ignorant stupidity ((a person who has bad info or no info at all))
don't be so hard on yourself
Duh-80 days and counting every day worse than day before and nobody knows anything
Why is every USGS presentation a history lesson!??? Any idiot can give a history lesson. How about you explain what is happening NOW, and tell us what is going to happen in the FUTURE, like scientists should be paid to do?!!?
you dont understand basic geology.
you don't understand basic common sense, or science, or the ideas of principle or purpose, or the idea of professionalism, or the basic idea of non-emotional scientific thinking, the idea of humility, the idea of serving the people that pay your salary, or doing the right thing.
geology is about understanding what happened in the past to put what we see today in context, and give us some idea about what is likely to happen in the future.
So yeah.... history is baked in to basic geology.
All you need is definition of the current state and the set of equations that determine the dynamics of the system, and you solve them for the future state, NO HISTORY IS NECESSARY.
Sorry, professor know-it-all. Geology is a historical science.
Unprecedented? I would expect more.
The Stimpy More than what? More to come? More info? 😀
both and more.
Oh, that You would rend the heavens! That You would come down! That the mountains might shake at Your presence- As fire burns brushwood, As fire causes water to boil- To make Your name known to Your adversaries, That the nations may tremble at Your presence!
Isaiah 64:1-2
Enough about your make believe fairytale already!
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I understand that your wet dream is see your deity appear and kill all and then condemn everyone to eternal torture, apart from the worthy from within your particular version of deity worship. Sorry but you’re wrong, both morally and factually. This is part of a natural event of island building that’s been going on for 5 million years, with just this island, so who was your goddess angry with then? Please try not to project your pathetic mental inadequacies on to others. Try to think for yourself.
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DaniEl Ben Freeman This kind of comment endears nobody to your belief system. Try kindness, love, peace and joy. Fear turns people off unless they know where you are coming from 😀
why is he giving us the statistics in meters? I thought Hawaii was American and we use inches feet in miles Etc. If you're going to say meters at least give us the conversion are you just afraid that we're going to be mind boggled at the reality of the numbers?
Science is done in meters, even in the USA
And has been done in meters for well over 100 years. For quick conversion, just mentally replace meters with "yards".
1 meter = 3.34 feet (roughly) or, since he's estimating anyway, one meter = one yard
Scientists use the metric system because the entire world uses it, except for the US. Contrary to what most people in the US think, we AREN'T the center of the universe, and it makes more sense to use a consistent system of measurement that everyone in the global scientific community uses.
But since he is reporting to the public that provides his paycheck it would be nice of him to report it in both measurements that makes it easier for the Americans who were brought up under the old system and it helps them understand the conversion system. They might learn something what a meter is compared to a yard or a foot. It's just common decency to translate it I would think. After all he's talking to civilians not other scientists.
scientists use meters. that your problem.
they have lot of equipment and technology to produce such crappy audio visuals... so unprofessional
Looks pretty professional to me. Keep in mind he is a working scientist, not an entertainment or documentary producer who can spend months or years creating a show. He will be back in the lab or on site taking measurements shortly after this public meeting.
America needs flashy entertainment. Who needs science?
He was giving a talk in a frickin community center room with a computer slide projector on the wall, what the hell kind of audiovisual do you think that gives?