Dogs can’t budge on principle. Let’s all clubs know they can be pushed around in negs. Brisbane are disrespecting Dunkley by playing silly buggers and not just getting him in after he’s stuck his neck out to request a trade to them
@@tin-n-tan i'm not a dogs supporter, but that's absolute bullshit. Holding firm and then the player not getting what they want, and the club trying to low ball you not getting what they want, is absolutely not being pushed around. I don't know what empowerment you see in getting bent over in a trade like that
@@pancakes4140 or they get nothing. So in future all clubs know, play hardball with the doggies and you will get the player for nothing. how does that help?
All clubs should refuse to budge on principle when they are being squeezed. Same applies to all the clubs negotiating with Geelong. They aren't there to help Geelong win more premierships by giving in to their low-ball offers.
@@tin-n-tan No if you try to play hardball with the bulldogs you will get nothing, Brisbane won’t get him if the deal is not done, plus no one will want to deal with Brisbane for trying a bullshit deal
only once in the history of the game has a player gone into the pre-season draft and been picked up by a club he didn't nominate. if he goes into the pre-season draft he still needs to agree to sign the contract, it does not work the same was as the national draft. i.e. he will get to go to Brisbane and doggies will get SFA for him.
@@tin-n-tan Good luck with that. Bombers and Port have more cap than Brisbane and both have been after him in the past. He was interested in both of these clubs and both have picks before the Lions. and, he just decided Brisbane was the better scenario, but things can change. If he can flip flop on interest so easily towards Brisbane, then he can do the same with a team in the pre season draft. If he goes to the Pre Season draft he must be at peace with clubs with cap can sign him. It's worth noting as well this is the best player to probably enter the pre-season draft by a mile. Most of these players who go into the preseason draft put massive contract numbers on them and they aren't even worth that sort of money (i.e Jack Martin) but Dunkley is worth the money and teams with more cap will offer him more money than Brisbane can offer, and probably a better role in the midfield being the main mid in most of these teams below Brisbane.
It’d be stupid. You’re a dogs player and you watch them to this to your bnf. Letting him go for nothing after being offered a first and future first would make the dogs look dumb
As a fellow dogs fan let brisbane can get stuffed.....Josh should go to them and say i thought you really wanted me,there showing just how much they dont want him....there going to find out like essendon did 2 years ago that were not going to blink....
you had your chance 2 years ago and didnt think he was worth 2 firsties,that idiot dodoro had him but thought let the bulldogs blink first...and they didnt and brisbane are going to find out the same....
@@heatlifer406 ok then if daniher,dylan shiel,taranto...is worth 2 firsties then dunkley is worth at least that..cmon.hes 25 best and fairest premiership player....
As a Freo surporter l feel for North ,people are complaining,they shouldn't get priority picks ,why not? They had pick one last year ,daicos was that best player in the draft,look what they got ,problems ,tha same this year the best player is Ashcroft ,he's of to Brisbane ,so having the last two number one picks is a rue ,North should get priority picks just for that ,loosing the two best players in the draft ,over the last two years ,so the AFL compensation picks haven't help them at all ,so much for evening out the competition, good luck North surporters, you will be holding up the ladder for a few more years to come. ,
I don't ever remember John Blakey,playing for the swans l know where behind in the west but not that far behind, if it's father son how is Nick Blakey a swan?
@@gustaaf1892 Nope. You sign a contract to be in a National professional sporting league, you play by its rules. Clubs should be able to trade players to the highest bidder, period. Contracted players are nominating clubs, they have free agency etc. The pendulum has swung too much in the players favour.
Much rather send Dunkley to the PSD instead of Brisbane trying to screw the Bulldogs over by making progressively worse offers. Brisbane should have known that they'd struggle to put up a decent offer for Dunkley since they're committed to two F/S picks and are expecting the Bulldogs to take whatever.
@@jonocoates3163 The Lions know that if he goes into the Draft then there's zero chance that he ends up there. I'd rather that over letting them think that they can fuck the Bulldogs over.
Exactly what i was thinking. Pick 7, and Bowes to Dogs and best of all....comp gets to shaft Geelong. Dunkley still gets to Brisbane, just 1 hr south. Suns are a very injury prone side & you can never have too many classy mids.
Aslo like me if your a dogs fan ring the club and tell em not to do this deal if were getting disrespected...the lady on the switch board said shes been getting phone calls all day from fans saying dont do this dealunless brisbane get fair dinkum..
@@tin-n-tan if no deal is done then Ollie Henry should be forced to go to the pre season draft and it would funny if west coast or north picks him up. His attitude is terrible
@@mitchellrizza284 only one player has ever been forced into the pre season draft. Not to sure why WC or North would take a guy on a one year contract who will walk the year after. Whats the point? Pies players aren't complaining about all the players they're getting in, but for some reason are throwing fits over a player who isn't getting a game. It's sad.
As a North fan keep digging your heels in bulldogs 1. beacause Brisbane are acting like port and lowballing and just think there entitled to that player 2. I want Dunkley at North go firgue
doesn't work like that. he still needs to agree to sign a contract at your club, which he can refuse to do. he could also put a contract out there for one year, which means you sign him, he then immediately leaves next year. the system here favours the player who wants to leave.
@@tin-n-tan he enters the open draft meaning he can go anywhere that's the point of the pre season draft and who cares if he leaves after a year get a free first rounder and move on win win
@@zanecallisto4169 no, he entered the pre-season draft the team and player still need to agree on a contract before he signs. understand the rules man!
Isn’t it amazing how some clubs have the bad rep for being hard to deal with, im looking at you Essendon, yet others who may also be turds to deal with, this is you Bulldogs, get away with it. This is now the second time Footscray have been pricks over Dunkley. Fuck em. Let em lose him for nothing.
Brisbane can get stuffed..........let him go to the pre-season draft.... they think the dogs are desprate so be it then...taranto went for 2 firsties...but dunkley just won the best and fairest and has a premiership medal....hes worth more....again brisbane can get stuffed.
I would rather dunkley walk to the PSD rather than giving bloody Brisbane for basically nothing and getting picks taken away also. If Dunkley wanted a guarantee to walk to Brisbane, sign a 1 year deal to the Dogs then go next year as a restricted FA HOWEVER have a clause that he can go next year. That way the dogs get compensation for losing him at a minimum. Either that or the trade ive been bubbling up is the following.... Giants send Nick Haynes and 2nd Rd Pick to the Dogs Dogs send Dunkley to Brisbane Brisbane send future 1st to GWS
Stand ya ground dogs, fuck em we either get proper compensation for him or nothing and he goes to the draft and ends up with a team that rates him. Clearly Brisbane don't rate him highly enough.
Nah if Dogs don't take 1st and future 1st, I say let Dogs let Dunkley go to PSD. The fact King says it's Neale or Bust is complete garbage, saw in 2021 that's not true.
Kingys equalisation equation rewards mediocrity and only encourages the smart clubs to get smarter. Open trade season till at least Easter I say, No compensation picks. No priority picks, But happy for at least 3 year commitment from draft before RFA, maybe 4
Take a stand Dogs, easy decision if you have a pair.
Of course, Brisbane could offer a player in part exchange, if they are serious about Dunkley.
Dogs can’t budge on principle. Let’s all clubs know they can be pushed around in negs. Brisbane are disrespecting Dunkley by playing silly buggers and not just getting him in after he’s stuck his neck out to request a trade to them
bahaha letting him go for nothing is not showing anyone anything except that you can be pushed around.
@@tin-n-tan i'm not a dogs supporter, but that's absolute bullshit. Holding firm and then the player not getting what they want, and the club trying to low ball you not getting what they want, is absolutely not being pushed around. I don't know what empowerment you see in getting bent over in a trade like that
@@pancakes4140 or they get nothing. So in future all clubs know, play hardball with the doggies and you will get the player for nothing.
how does that help?
All clubs should refuse to budge on principle when they are being squeezed. Same applies to all the clubs negotiating with Geelong. They aren't there to help Geelong win more premierships by giving in to their low-ball offers.
@@tin-n-tan No if you try to play hardball with the bulldogs you will get nothing, Brisbane won’t get him if the deal is not done, plus no one will want to deal with Brisbane for trying a bullshit deal
I’d rather dunkley walk for nothing to a club who won’t contend in the draft rather than going to Brisbane for something that is no value
only once in the history of the game has a player gone into the pre-season draft and been picked up by a club he didn't nominate.
if he goes into the pre-season draft he still needs to agree to sign the contract, it does not work the same was as the national draft. i.e. he will get to go to Brisbane and doggies will get SFA for him.
It sounds pretty dumb from a Dogs perspective, because they will get nothing in return if they do that
@@tin-n-tan Good luck with that. Bombers and Port have more cap than Brisbane and both have been after him in the past. He was interested in both of these clubs and both have picks before the Lions. and, he just decided Brisbane was the better scenario, but things can change. If he can flip flop on interest so easily towards Brisbane, then he can do the same with a team in the pre season draft. If he goes to the Pre Season draft he must be at peace with clubs with cap can sign him. It's worth noting as well this is the best player to probably enter the pre-season draft by a mile. Most of these players who go into the preseason draft put massive contract numbers on them and they aren't even worth that sort of money (i.e Jack Martin) but Dunkley is worth the money and teams with more cap will offer him more money than Brisbane can offer, and probably a better role in the midfield being the main mid in most of these teams below Brisbane.
@@MegaCaza1 doesnt work like that champo.
It’d be stupid. You’re a dogs player and you watch them to this to your bnf. Letting him go for nothing after being offered a first and future first would make the dogs look dumb
Brisbane treating dogs like trash.
Go doggies
Stand your ground
dogs are trash though.
@@tin-n-tan Looking in the mirror are you?
North should take pick 2 and run with it. Cut any loss and start again.
Have to agree with you. Wasn't Chris Jude pick 2. Pick 2 can be excellent. Get rid of the bad attitude player.
bulldogs fight and bulldogs roar we give our very best!!
As a fellow dogs fan let brisbane can get stuffed.....Josh should go to them and say i thought you really wanted me,there showing just how much they dont want him....there going to find out like essendon did 2 years ago that were not going to blink....
ESSENDON PLEASE ...PLEASE GET IN THERE AND GET DUNKLEY
you had your chance 2 years ago and didnt think he was worth 2 firsties,that idiot dodoro had him but thought let the bulldogs blink first...and they didnt and brisbane are going to find out the same....
@@chrisd5980 Hes not worth 2 firsts. Wasnt back then at least. Bulldogs would be mad to accept pick 21 now over what essendon could offer
@@heatlifer406 ok then if daniher,dylan shiel,taranto...is worth 2 firsties then dunkley is worth at least that..cmon.hes 25 best and fairest premiership player....
@@chrisd5980 Pick 4 and 2 F2nd rounders
Essendon late move for Dunkley
As a Freo surporter l feel for North ,people are complaining,they shouldn't get priority picks ,why not? They had pick one last year ,daicos was that best player in the draft,look what they got ,problems ,tha same this year the best player is Ashcroft ,he's of to Brisbane ,so having the last two number one picks is a rue ,North should get priority picks just for that ,loosing the two best players in the draft ,over the last two years ,so the AFL compensation picks haven't help them at all ,so much for evening out the competition, good luck North surporters, you will be holding up the ladder for a few more years to come. ,
I don't ever remember John Blakey,playing for the swans l know where behind in the west but not that far behind, if it's father son how is Nick Blakey a swan?
@@darrenwilliams3434 he was an academy player at the swans so he had the choice between north and the swans and chose the swans
clubs should be able to trade players without consent. The trading system would be so much better here for getting value for the players.
lol, you haven't thought this through have you.
Thankfully we aren't like the US. Players have legal rights to have influence on where they go.
@@tin-n-tan Nope. Come at me.
@@gustaaf1892 Nope. You sign a contract to be in a National professional sporting league, you play by its rules. Clubs should be able to trade players to the highest bidder, period. Contracted players are nominating clubs, they have free agency etc. The pendulum has swung too much in the players favour.
@@gustaaf1892 If you don't like it, you're welcome to do a CPA and become an accountant. don't become a pro sports player and expect normalcy
Basically Brisbane are unprofessional - who would want to play there
Lachie Neale, Josh Dunkley, Lincoln McCarthy, Joe Daniher just to name a few
Much rather send Dunkley to the PSD instead of Brisbane trying to screw the Bulldogs over by making progressively worse offers. Brisbane should have known that they'd struggle to put up a decent offer for Dunkley since they're committed to two F/S picks and are expecting the Bulldogs to take whatever.
So you would rather let dunkley leave for nothing than something? Out of spite? That makes no sense
@@jonocoates3163 two first rounders was fair as well. Doggies being sooks!
@@tin-n-tan not with how many picks the lions wanted in return
@@jonocoates3163 The Lions know that if he goes into the Draft then there's zero chance that he ends up there. I'd rather that over letting them think that they can fuck the Bulldogs over.
@@tin-n-tan Two late first rounders for Dunkley and all of our second round picks. It's actually a fucking shocking trade and incredibly insulting.
I'm glad Tarryn Thomas is staying at the Roos
Why don't they trade him to the Suns
Dunkley is a gun, but Gold Coast are committed to Miller, Anderson and Rowell and would be more likely to chase an outside mid than Dunkley.
Exactly what i was thinking. Pick 7, and Bowes to Dogs and best of all....comp gets to shaft Geelong. Dunkley still gets to Brisbane, just 1 hr south. Suns are a very injury prone side & you can never have too many classy mids.
Aslo like me if your a dogs fan ring the club and tell em not to do this deal if were getting disrespected...the lady on the switch board said shes been getting phone calls all day from fans saying dont do this dealunless brisbane get fair dinkum..
Hawthorn would be wary of Brisbane’s antics now.
I've always admired the Bulldogs. So I hope they don't allow themselves to be blackmailed by Brisbane. Don't let Brisbane kick you when you're down.
Ollie Henry won’t get a game at Geelong. First round pick plus a player or no deal.
meh, he will just leave next year for nothing.
@@tin-n-tan if no deal is done then Ollie Henry should be forced to go to the pre season draft and it would funny if west coast or north picks him up. His attitude is terrible
@@mitchellrizza284 only one player has ever been forced into the pre season draft. Not to sure why WC or North would take a guy on a one year contract who will walk the year after. Whats the point?
Pies players aren't complaining about all the players they're getting in, but for some reason are throwing fits over a player who isn't getting a game. It's sad.
@@mitchellrizza284 if he goes to the PSD you do realise the pies lose him for free. They obviously aren’t gonna do that.
As a North fan keep digging your heels in bulldogs
1. beacause Brisbane are acting like port and lowballing and just think there entitled to that player
2. I want Dunkley at North go firgue
doesn't work like that. he still needs to agree to sign a contract at your club, which he can refuse to do. he could also put a contract out there for one year, which means you sign him, he then immediately leaves next year.
the system here favours the player who wants to leave.
@@tin-n-tan he enters the open draft meaning he can go anywhere that's the point of the pre season draft and who cares if he leaves after a year get a free first rounder and move on win win
@@zanecallisto4169 no, he entered the pre-season draft the team and player still need to agree on a contract before he signs. understand the rules man!
Isn’t it amazing how some clubs have the bad rep for being hard to deal with, im looking at you Essendon, yet others who may also be turds to deal with, this is you Bulldogs, get away with it. This is now the second time Footscray have been pricks over Dunkley. Fuck em. Let em lose him for nothing.
Brisbane can get stuffed..........let him go to the pre-season draft.... they think the dogs are desprate so be it then...taranto went for 2 firsties...but dunkley just won the best and fairest and has a premiership medal....hes worth more....again brisbane can get stuffed.
I would rather dunkley walk to the PSD rather than giving bloody Brisbane for basically nothing and getting picks taken away also.
If Dunkley wanted a guarantee to walk to Brisbane, sign a 1 year deal to the Dogs then go next year as a restricted FA HOWEVER have a clause that he can go next year. That way the dogs get compensation for losing him at a minimum.
Either that or the trade ive been bubbling up is the following....
Giants send Nick Haynes and 2nd Rd Pick to the Dogs
Dogs send Dunkley to Brisbane
Brisbane send future 1st to GWS
Lions send future first, future second and pick 21 agreed?
Stand ya ground dogs, fuck em we either get proper compensation for him or nothing and he goes to the draft and ends up with a team that rates him. Clearly Brisbane don't rate him highly enough.
Nah if Dogs don't take 1st and future 1st, I say let Dogs let Dunkley go to PSD. The fact King says it's Neale or Bust is complete garbage, saw in 2021 that's not true.
Does Sam know what any of those turns of phrase mean? ESL maybe?
Kingys equalisation equation rewards mediocrity and only encourages the smart clubs to get smarter. Open trade season till at least Easter I say, No compensation picks. No priority picks, But happy for at least 3 year commitment from draft before RFA, maybe 4
Go further. Publish all player salaries. Everyone knows where players and teams are at. No more subterfuge and bullshit
@@rojay9546 absolutley agree. I am also not a fan of off field spending caps as that only reduces investment in the game.
Simple. Dogs dont have leverage. Take the first and move along.
Dogs having a bloody sook again
I hope Collingwood walk Henry? First round pick or PSD🤣🤣