Tesla Coil Usable Volts & Amps
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- The can is aluminum but hollow. So you get the amps to start to build without a massive heat-up in a normal core. You also get eddy current. It just works.
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Nice, the next step is to be able to reduce DC HV reservoir to the power needed to run your input. Then the extra resonating coils can be used to power appliances 🙏
Nathan, I see a couple people have said it already, but that's not how you measure amps/current. You measure current inline, not across the terminals like you do for voltage. Remember when charging a cap all we are doing is separating the charges on the plates. Assuming both plates are identical, then both have an equal amount of positive & negative charges already in the plate material at zero volts. We take the positive charges off the negative plate & move them over to the + plate making it more positive, & we take the negative charges off the + plate & move them to the - plate, making it more negative. We don't put anything into the capacitor, all the charges are already there in the plate material, they are in a balanced/mixed state (@zero voltage) & can not be differentiated from each other until we apply voltage to separate them. All we do is apply voltage to move the charges, the rate at which the charges move from plate to opposite plate can be read as current on an inline current meter. When reading this current do not make the mistake of thinking that you are 'putting amps in' from the cold side or hot side. All you are doing, is applying voltage to separate the charges. The current you spend to do this, is the current required to maintain the applied voltage for the duration of time that you are separating the charges per pulse (so that the applied voltage doesn't drop while separating the charges). The diodes stop them from returning, keeping them in the cap. There are a few other factors to consider, like diode voltage drop, wire capacitance, frequency, radiant amplification if any, etc. Please get yourself some inline moving current meters of different scales. You can also use a clamp type current meter but you will get false readings with certain circuit arrangements as it measures whats outside the wire not inside it. I can show you some bizarre results from both moving coil & digital meters if you wish to know more. Hope this helps.
Hi Nathan :) wow, you got some subs lately! Awsome work! so it is possible. Dont bother with the "negative" comments. People usually watch a pop science vid and get stuff like this recommended because of the titles. We all need to learn a lot more and test to get the understanding. Its no longer a question of if, but how.
Been playing around as well. Made 3 identical TCs driven with slayer-exciters and one PS. Fascinating how the system and em fields behave with varying distance and voltage. There is a sweet spot ;) You can make them all resonate and work as one. Adding aluminium rods to the center, reduces freq, adds capacitance to the system, increases volts in air up to a point, then pop, it switches from volts to amps(?) and I get really intense sparks for my modest setup. Fried it and found out. Dominating coil switches based on increased capacitance around it, but if in resonance, system and its dominating frequency are somewhat stable even with a slayer-exciter.
Inspired by you and the graviflyer, I've been thinking, and please hear me out, I would appreciate your opinion on this because I want to try and make it: What if we make it a goal to have balance, and not push anything? Yes, rise the system to the required volts and apms to make it "work" (rise the reference point), but how we do it is also important. What if we introduced a concept of "bridge harmonic frequencies"? Dono if thats a thing. Kinda like you say Gerald has been doing with his coils and clever windings, but since I don't understand yet how that works, what if we did a similar thing with infra-sound, sound, ultra-sound, and radial moation, kinda like the graviflyer? An orchestra symphony. Instead of going from 0 to 60, we introduce harmonic frequencies one stage at the time with appropriate intensity, waiting for things to saturate? We would need increased intensity at first (and not overshoot it), but when the system stabilizes and locks-in, we could reduce it. Similar to how tuning with the cap-bank would overshoot and then you can reduce the capacity and still hold the resonance. Once locked-in with enough wiggle room, we can introduce distableising elements (cap bank or a solenoid or an aluminium plate), if in tolerance threshold and a resonating frequency, it shouldn't fight it too much.
Ambitious build first draft design idea:
6 identical TCs arranged in a hexagon for field stability (tested with an equal triangle = unstable) + one bigger TC in the center as a focus point. all ran by slayer-exciters. rods down the 2# from the hexagon meet at the center TC rod. Central TC rod has a disk on it that can spin in the same direction as TC windings. Now mirror this setup and have the two spinning disks in the opposite direction be like two plates of a capacitor. Will we have vortexes culmination point in the center like the graviflyer? Intorduce a middle element based on requirements. Be it a spiral copper pipe with water for heating, a solenoid or an aluminum disk. Add physical frequency in stages to push the entire system (parts and all) into resonance. If all steps are done, we should get an additive effect of more efficient energy transfer, all around the system and in it focused towards the middle element. I probably overcomplicated this. but I hope I managed to get the point across... The design can and will change.
great job on the tesla coils. The graviflyer is harmonics an small amount of power. when I resonated a coil with no power it. It was based on the ring and harmonics of each layer of the ring. the graviflyer works the same way. each part needs to be measured and the numbers have to line up.
@@nathanbunten4299 Thank you :) yes. i actually think i understand :) I've seen the rings. everything needs to line up and be in the tolerance threshold. geometry, freq and material composition and position.
The junk is strong with this one 💪🏻👀awesome Nathan !! Thx for sharing !
right on!!!
Love the can setup...brilliant in its simplicity!!!...-John
getting even more interesting, your build so far looks genuinely amusingly simple, Im starting to wonder if this what was in the black box that tesla used to power that electric car
It is classic don smith. Building it with a dc flyback trigger is the more interesting part like Edwin Gray.
I love your rodin coil.I'm drooling over it :-)
What type of difference in results do you think you would get if you used a regular typical coil instead of your roden coil. People tell me.I will not get that much current either.But I tell them that it mainly takes voltage to charge a capacitor the more voltage the faster & higher that capacitor will charge.... now when you discharge that cap, there is your current. I know very well that that "can" is where the magic happens.
Love love what you're doing.Keep up the great work!
The Rodin coil is breaking cemetery of the tesla coil. Basically it allows energy to pass without pushing back on the tesla coil. Normally any change to the load would throw you out of resonance. This stops that. a regular diode does not work with this energy.
Het equals amps. Tesla said energy is like gas. A can compresses gas and creates heat. I use this to get more amps. I am not trying to show amp flow, just that it is there. The kicker is when I start using high voltage dc to create the flip then turn it off again. I do not think everyone is ready for that though. You see the comments. They are more worried about how to measure amps.
The truth is what I just did converts high voltages to useable amps in any system. That is worth it's weight in gold.
Absolutely weight in gold. Stay blessed and May you harvest 100 fold ❤
@@nathanbunten4299 Thank you very much for that info! I need to build a Rodin coil! Yes!, normally the load would throw everything out of resonance, I absolutely agree. Yeah, everyone wants to see the amps, I know how that is. Hey, if you can charge a cap than you can get current by discharging it. Thanks again. You're doing outstanding work :-)
@@INVENTOR3 that multi stand wire might work as a Rodin coil. If you use the rod down the center the energy is not held back by the shielding. Different shapes might get different results.
Thank you!.@@nathanbunten4299
Im sorry you have so many trolls. Not many people seem to understand what they're even looking at let alone whats going on. Keep up the good work. I can't believe people watch this and have no idea but its confirmed now. I dont know how you battle these comments my god.
People will understand one day. when they build the energy it will make sense. Thank you.
Nathan wants to know the current stored in the cap that is why he is going across the cap terminals. He is converting the impulses coming from within the tesla coil into real AC then back to DC. but I have to agree that you should always use the 10 amp plug when measuring current unless you are known to work in the milliamp range...
finally someone gets it. The cap runs the motor, How you build it is another story. I showed it so that people have an understanding of it. It can be improved with better diodes, a draw like a light bulb/led, you can even make the coils harmonics resonance and octaves amplify it. The understanding or foundation starts with a simple soda can.
@@nathanbunten4299 Yeah I learned that even in our current AC system the real current is made inside of the capacitors at the poles. The lines are really one wire transmitters that usually end at the ground near the pole. Another coil in the capacitor picks up the field inside of the capacitor and feed it to your house then to ground. Lately they are using a floating ground or neutral wire in the system to remove a direct short to ground. What you are doing is very much the same with converting the polarity via a capacitance. Use the right energy to send the signals to the load system and convert just before or inside of the load. Walla near zero loss in the transmission and could even be utilized as a fulcrum type thing and magnify the output.
Lear how to generate 1 million volts with little energy and you get all that to transform down to huge currents and magnetic fields in the conversion.
Bifilar coils in the load are a way to add capacitance into the coil itself and be able to draw in plasma and manipulate those currents to add to your output. in essence amplifying the output of your conversion device.
And yes I get it... I have been researching Tesla for over 25 years. I have read the old masters of the electric theory and found out that their understanding of the ether or plasma field was way more advanced from a basic perspective. They didn't know how to manipulate it in such a way as we understand the process now.
Why don't you use a cap dump to charge a battery. You can make one with simple components. Nice work BTW 👍
The goal was just to show conversion to useable amps. Anything is possible after that.
@nathanbunten4299 I totally agree, just a suggestion to show usable power and what can be done with it. I am working with the same power using a plasma tube with some good results, charging Batteries and what not.
I love it, but I am worried about your multi-meter because measuring amps is basically creating a dead short inside the meter, an amp-meter must be inline and I always put it in the negative line because of the cold energy
ITS CALLED SHORT CIRCUIT CURRENT LOOK IT UP
I can’t tell if it’s overunity, because I don’t know how much current the Tesla coil’s drawing.
to measure amps you must put the meter inline with the circuit to get a correct reading. You also usually have to switch the probes on the meter to the amp port with a high enough rating. always start on the highest rated port on your meter to avoid blowing your meter.
Correct, it gets tricky from there onward too. RF is not a simple creature to measure accurately, impedance matters.
Short circuit current is a viable means to test for the available current in a system before accounting for load. I hear what you're saying and I understand but I'm a little tired of people saying you can only test amps in line under load. There's 2 different methods for 2 different reasons.
He's measuring across the capacitor so that is rougly the amount of power available in a full discharge. It's not the power being used to charge it. He's just charging a capacitor lmao do you people even know what you're looking at?
He's not even measuring rf he's measuring a charged capacitor it's static until you connect a load. What is wrong with both of you jfc. It's rectified dc too how is that rf at that point? AAAAAHHHH people man...
@@brianp5210 measure the current from a capacitor discharge tells us nothing useful here. we know how much energy the cap can hold.
@@wongowonga ?? What was it supposed to tell you? What do you guys expect here? I don't understand. He's charging the cap that's really all I see being demonstrated or attempted here. Any direct load on the coils would kill the effect. Again, not really sure what you're looking to be "told"
@@brianp5210 a voltage check on the cap would have been enough. pointless 'measuring the current' across the cap. Like i said, we know how much energy it can hold. if he wanted to show the cap was charged, voltage would suffice.
7:00 That's impressive ! 5 amps, with 28 Volts. 140w... why it keeps building up? Is it because of the toroid ?
I flipped the field. The can made the voltage hot. i added an amp wrap on the coil and it is producing more useable amps. I rectified it to dc then put it in the cap. The Rodin coil stops the load from changing the frequency of the tesla coil.
Many people are not aware of the significance, if there is any, regarding producing amperage using an aluminum core transformer. Or the one wires middle pole compared to the same oscillation you are using, directly. Also any significant difference of the Roden coil in the circuit. Although it sounded like you said you were using cold to make hot. Is this the amperage by transformer?
@@CalaGemLily the Rodin Coil stops the frequency from changing on the Tesla coil. A break like a 1:1 transformer
If you are trying to get that motor to run off of that capacitor, it will not work. You need to find out how much voltage your circuit is putting out. You can do this by putting a high voltage, low farad capacitor on it. See how long it takes charge that capacitor. The faster that capacitor charges up, the better. For example, if you can get a 25V 1000uF capaitor to cycle 40 times in a second, you will be able to run a 12V 1A battery without any heat. If you want to get even more crazy, put a capacitor bank on the secondary side of your motor, so when your motor is running, it is charging a small capacitor bank. I think from what you are trying to do, is not try to put more out then what youre putting in. To do this, you need to do some basic math and find out how much of an load you have, and have it guide the energy down to the next bank. Be sure that second bank doesnt pull off any more then then the first load. You would be stepping everything down with capacitors. And it would appear that you have overunity or zero point when in reality, your circuit would be 100% tuned. You might only be putting on 60W but everything you are running would take 120W in our convetional way of running things. SOMETIMES BIGGER IS NOT BETTER!
Do you ever experiment with back emf and cap dumps?
@@thecontact2609 not yet, but the team I work with do. Faraday research does it all the time.
Cool! That's what I'm working on right now, but just using a voltage relay, neon's, and caps to do it. Your the one inspired me to make my first Tesla coil though. Just a simple one though driven by a slayer exciter circuit.
@thecontact2609 right on!!!
Is the amount of OWE coming out of the center the same coming out the top as the bottom?
@@StefanG-g9x yes
@nathanbunten4299 cool
surely can't know for sure until amps are measured correctly.
What’s the point of this
This is not how you measure amps. You mesure amps by disconnecting the circuit and putting your meter in line with the circuit. Also, you do not need all those coils to charge a capacitor; just the bridge rectfier. Something like a half wave vacuum tube from a old crt tv works as well and is less wires. Also, your metal rod is lowering the resonant frequency of the secondary. Also you need to have a feedback going to your coil so it packs more of a punch. And you can do all of this without wires too...
Please for the love of God look up short circuit current and understand what it is and understand that he is measuring A CAPACITOR
@brianp5210 and a capacitor doesn't read in amps, it reads in Farads which makes if very inaccurate. Now when you discharge a capacitor, it releases a lot of amps as your voltage declines but it's very brief. In order to actually run something of the capacitor the way it's setup now, will not run too much. You wood need to find a way to charge your capacitor much faster to a point where there's an oscillation.
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@nathanbunten4299 Awesome demo. Is the car horn beeping twice at 4:36 because you are generating some kind of impulse?
no. just my kids
Call it a "W" . ... !