Pro-Q 4's spectral option also lets you enhance the select resonances with two saturation options which means you can bring our harmonics and still "sooth" them by sweetening and/or softening those frequencies.
Killed it and buried it along with a few other plugins. But the best feature is the sidechain on the spectral dynamics kick and bass, you just select the low shelf filter on bass and it finds the frequencies where the kick is and just lowers the bass like magic, + the sidechain of high frequencies for the bass and the kick for lead instruments to achieve expression only on the frequencies where they are.🖤
Just tried Pro-Q 4 but the spectral dynamics are not as surgical or effective as Soothe2. They are definitely a welcome addition, but if you use Soothe2 a lot, I don't think it will be replaced any time soon.
Glad I never bought any sooth type plugins. Got Q4 for 50 quid on the upgrade. I love the list view. I'm looking forward to starting a fresh tune and using it properly on everything.
Soothe 2 is still superior in resonances suppressing. And SpecCraft even more. Y'all acting like you know shit when you taste a demo version of what has already been on the market for some time.
@@JK_EUI didn't act like I knew anything. I do have reso from a mastering the mix bundle, I don't know how it stacks up to soothe though. Not really looked into it.
@@Chris-x7i5o Yeah, he's acting like an entitled brat. Don't mind him. Reso is just meh compared to Soothe2, it's decent; but Soothe2/SpecCraft/DSEQ3 are better, with Soothe2 having the easiest learning curve/best UI/UX.
One of the things I’d do in the past is heavily soothe an area (like too much) then boost up that region with EQ, giving you that band back but with the resonant frequencies tamed. Probably a lot easier to do this now with pro q 4
SpecCraft > Soothe > Q4 ... for resonance suppression. All it takes to know this is stick head out of own's arse and study those plugins in depth. I know, impossible for 95 % of youtube commenters.
@@JK_EU Yeah, SpecCraft is better than Soothe2, but not as intuitive and a longer learning curve, Soothe2 is almost drag & drop. I'm currently replacing SmartEQ:4 / Sonnox Claro with Pro-Q 4 + SplitEQ/Soothe2/Bloom (or Gulffoss, both have different tonalities, but Bloom is more granular. Izotope spectral stuff is just alright imo. I also have Spiff, I like SplitEQ better, but switch it now and then). Gotta dedicate a few days to learn SpecCraft better (I do have DSEQ3, Soothe2, Waves EQuator, SpecCraft and a whole bunch of plugins -I don't recommend buying many plugins unless you work and earn from the music industry or have enough to spend as a hobbyist).
@@beatsandstuff No, SpecCraft is just as intuitive. You are confusing being used to something and rusty to do things slightly differently with a steep curve. SpecCraft is as simple and understandable as it gets. And if it isn't for you, you need literally 5 minutes tops with the manual or 1 youtube video, but vast majority of people are unwilling to learn and settle for average things in their life. And you are right, you seem to have too many plugins for the same tasks. Spend more time learning the tools and spend less on all those plugins. Just a friendly advice.
@@JK_EU Nah, I get sent plugins for free since I'm in the industry. You know what's harder to do in music than reading the manual? Money, just some friendly advice (for your passive-aggressive comment, I'm matching your vibe).
@jamalcole1985 it basically has the same settings bro I don't know if you've used TDR Nova before there's a free version and the settings are pretty simple the queues are not as precise as the gentleman edition and the gentleman edition has a lot of features packed in but it looks like the pro Q4 will allow you to set more ques but if you need to make that many cues you might as well just have one that's stretching across that frequency range, but this is a good video not trying to take away from the reason he even made this
so sad to say its not definitely doesn't kill the resonances like a proper spectral processor does so sad mehn I was actually trying so hard to like the spectral processing but the eq is still goated tho
I still think it’s a great plugin and I’m for sure gonna be reaching for it, but now there’s another plugin that many people can get very cheap with upgrade pricing that can do similar
@@robbiemichaels2347 I do, I actually use it, I actually find it useful, I find it does exactly what it’s supposed to do well. I love the look of pro q and I might give the demo a go but if Oeksound came out with Soothe EQ?
it's not true. Soothe dynamically tames peaks just as pro-q4 spectral dynamics, there's no difference except the amount of control over sharpness - soothe is able to get broader and with less bands when the sharpness is set very low. But Pro-Q4 can also enhance those peaks while soothe can only cut + you can have many bands with different settings on each band while on Soothe you're stuck to one setting on all bands in on instance of the plugin
I bought Pro Q3 a few weeks ago and Fabfilter gave me ProQ4 for free. Now I have both.
That’s awesome
That's a good policy that!
same
They will give it for free if you bought it in the last 3 months !
Also they give a 50% reduction if you were a previous q3 owner
Pro-Q 4's spectral option also lets you enhance the select resonances with two saturation options which means you can bring our harmonics and still "sooth" them by sweetening and/or softening those frequencies.
Killed it and buried it along with a few other plugins. But the best feature is the sidechain on the spectral dynamics kick and bass, you just select the low shelf filter on bass and it finds the frequencies where the kick is and just lowers the bass like magic, + the sidechain of high frequencies for the bass and the kick for lead instruments to achieve expression only on the frequencies where they are.🖤
Do you have experience from soothe2? For example suppressing harsh frequencies from vocals//guitar?
Just tried Pro-Q 4 but the spectral dynamics are not as surgical or effective as Soothe2. They are definitely a welcome addition, but if you use Soothe2 a lot, I don't think it will be replaced any time soon.
I 100% agree.
SICK VIDEO MATE
Glad I never bought any sooth type plugins. Got Q4 for 50 quid on the upgrade. I love the list view. I'm looking forward to starting a fresh tune and using it properly on everything.
Soothe 2 is still superior in resonances suppressing. And SpecCraft even more. Y'all acting like you know shit when you taste a demo version of what has already been on the market for some time.
@@JK_EUI didn't act like I knew anything. I do have reso from a mastering the mix bundle, I don't know how it stacks up to soothe though. Not really looked into it.
@@Chris-x7i5o Yeah, he's acting like an entitled brat. Don't mind him. Reso is just meh compared to Soothe2, it's decent; but Soothe2/SpecCraft/DSEQ3 are better, with Soothe2 having the easiest learning curve/best UI/UX.
@@beatsandstuff Why are you projecting your mental issues into a plugin discussion is beyond me. But you do you, your disadvantages don't insult me. 😂
Girl in the Fire 🔥
Commenting because this demo sounds so good wtf. Almost sounds like Fox Stevenson.
Yo thanks so much! I’ve heard your stuff before too sounds great!
AMAZING review
I almost want to try a “serial” method of using both pro q4 and soothe 2 one after the other, in a way where they don’t have to work as hard.
One of the things I’d do in the past is heavily soothe an area (like too much) then boost up that region with EQ, giving you that band back but with the resonant frequencies tamed. Probably a lot easier to do this now with pro q 4
lol at the pendulum remake
I never used a spectral compressor. Resonances are not bad.
Yeah, I feel like taking them out can just remove the character of some sounds
So glad I never went to buy Soothe, this is EXACTLY what I need for my tearout and lofi bass projects
SpecCraft > Soothe > Q4 ... for resonance suppression. All it takes to know this is stick head out of own's arse and study those plugins in depth. I know, impossible for 95 % of youtube commenters.
@@JK_EU Yeah, SpecCraft is better than Soothe2, but not as intuitive and a longer learning curve, Soothe2 is almost drag & drop. I'm currently replacing SmartEQ:4 / Sonnox Claro with Pro-Q 4 + SplitEQ/Soothe2/Bloom (or Gulffoss, both have different tonalities, but Bloom is more granular. Izotope spectral stuff is just alright imo. I also have Spiff, I like SplitEQ better, but switch it now and then). Gotta dedicate a few days to learn SpecCraft better (I do have DSEQ3, Soothe2, Waves EQuator, SpecCraft and a whole bunch of plugins -I don't recommend buying many plugins unless you work and earn from the music industry or have enough to spend as a hobbyist).
@@beatsandstuff No, SpecCraft is just as intuitive. You are confusing being used to something and rusty to do things slightly differently with a steep curve. SpecCraft is as simple and understandable as it gets. And if it isn't for you, you need literally 5 minutes tops with the manual or 1 youtube video, but vast majority of people are unwilling to learn and settle for average things in their life. And you are right, you seem to have too many plugins for the same tasks. Spend more time learning the tools and spend less on all those plugins. Just a friendly advice.
@@JK_EU
You ain't friendly at all dude. Being quite condescending in this comment section.
@@JK_EU Nah, I get sent plugins for free since I'm in the industry. You know what's harder to do in music than reading the manual? Money, just some friendly advice (for your passive-aggressive comment, I'm matching your vibe).
Is it still heavy on the CPU?
It’s extremely lightweight
Enabling spectral mode adds latency as then the band is linear phase.
Soothe3 tho!!! No one is talking about sooth3!!!
tdr nova ge would do the same
How
@jamalcole1985 it basically has the same settings bro I don't know if you've used TDR Nova before there's a free version and the settings are pretty simple the queues are not as precise as the gentleman edition and the gentleman edition has a lot of features packed in but it looks like the pro Q4 will allow you to set more ques but if you need to make that many cues you might as well just have one that's stretching across that frequency range, but this is a good video not trying to take away from the reason he even made this
it's nice but it's no soothe killer without a sidechain input
also that demo is fuckin sick dude
well, it's a good thing that fabfilter pro q4 DOES have a sidechain input that affects this...
Thank you
so sad to say its not definitely doesn't kill the resonances like a proper spectral processor does so sad mehn I was actually trying so hard to like the spectral processing but the eq is still goated tho
What???
Suddenly everyone hates soothe 😂 it’s no better or worse than it was 2 days ago.
I still think it’s a great plugin and I’m for sure gonna be reaching for it, but now there’s another plugin that many people can get very cheap with upgrade pricing that can do similar
No. This is in no way a Soothe2 replacer. When Soothe3 comes, everyone will realize they got robbed... Better off with SpecCraft for now.
What do you think they will add? My like eq features so you can regain a it of what you've taken away if u know what i mean
Actually txt two producer friends saying goodbye Soothe2 Subscription
Pro-q 4 looks good value, but soothe 2 sounds better in every example I've heard so far for cutting resonances.
I agree. I do think I'll use the Pro-Q 4 feature for some things but for vocals I'll still go with Soothe 2.
Soothe 2 is still the king of resonance suppression in my opinion.
FUSER killed soothe months ago tf 😂😂
Especially with the phase alignment, I love that bit
Is it cracked yet?
Are you?
@ you tryna crack me??… 😏
yes
Fabfilter & Pro-Q4 are awesome, but Soothe absolutely sounds better in this example.
It does not kill soothe
Arguments, other than that, it's a baseless comment.
I hear no difference (listening on low volume).
It’s not a super drastic thing so you might need to listen louder, not even “loud” just an average volume
Let me save 8 minutes of your life: NO, IT ISN'T.
It does kill soothe.
Yes, no need for Soothe2 anymore.
Do you have soothe ?
@@robbiemichaels2347 Yep, I own Soothe2 and can hear no difference to Pro-Q4, so I think I will sell it.
@@robbiemichaels2347 I do, I actually use it, I actually find it useful, I find it does exactly what it’s supposed to do well. I love the look of pro q and I might give the demo a go but if Oeksound came out with Soothe EQ?
Music start to sound too perfect digitally perfect.. i dont like it..
I just bought soothe2 on sale for Black Friday 😭
Soothe is more ai. It handles algorithm selected frequencies instead of just dynamically tame peaks like pro-q 4 does
Sooth 2 is not AI
it's not true. Soothe dynamically tames peaks just as pro-q4 spectral dynamics, there's no difference except the amount of control over sharpness - soothe is able to get broader and with less bands when the sharpness is set very low. But Pro-Q4 can also enhance those peaks while soothe can only cut + you can have many bands with different settings on each band while on Soothe you're stuck to one setting on all bands in on instance of the plugin
No.