What a video! Its one thing to compare specs but having them all to compare on the spot is awesome! One of the best hunting product review videos ive seen.
Thanks for the HONEST superb best ever stick review And believe me when I say I've watched THEM ALL and yours was easily the best I am very similar in size as you at 6'-2" and fluctuate from 230-260lbs and wear 14xxw boots Stick stability and stand off FOR ME surpass all other considerations What your video showed me was if you're a big 230lb+ guy with over size 12 feet there are no perfect sticks out there at any price that will give you ultra light wight, ease of use/pack/stack/instal, and extream stability Big guys with big feet will have to either compromise and accept certain drawbacks to get minimum weight or accept heavier weights and get the stick that will serve our needs best I for one will gladly accept an additional 1-2lbs total weight to maximize my safety factor and minimize my fiddle factor For me NWIH would I ever use a stick that only allows 3" or less of my boot on a step, or moves beyond a absolute minimal degree while in use I also feel another factor of utmost importance hunters, especially older 50+ bigger hunters MUST consider I advise all hunters especially bigger over 50YOA guys like me to absolutely factor into your step choices climbing up but most importantly down AND in the dark AFTER is the fatigue factor of four or five continuous days of hard hunting sets in it is when you are tired and fatigued while ascending or desending in the dark when your odds of something bad happening are your greatest and once tired and fatigued your odds of emerging uninjured from an incident are at thier lowest TO ME saving 1.5-2lbs is not even close to be worth getting injured due to a unexpected shift of a stick of slipping off of a boot that when I was fresh and not fatigued wouldn't be nearly as big a factor as when the fatigue of 4 to 7 continuous days of hunting sets in and my chances of injuries have gone from minimal to much greater Just something for us over 50yoa hunters who are bigger to much bigger than average size to consider.
Looking into getting my first set of budget sticks. Considering Hawk Helium 20" or 30" also considered XOP LMO4 that I believe is also a 30" 3 step @ 15" I like how secure the XOP appears to lock together for transport but concerned about the inefficiencies you mentioned? Any recommendations would be appreciated.
This helped me keep my stacked outdoors stick, was looking at other options but like what I have for now. Thanks for the best comparison review by far!!
Been looking forward to this review for a while. Great job! One note ... Out of the top three , OOAL has had many sales on sticks, making the FXD a really good bang for the buck if you can catch them on sale. The GWB's will never be on sale. EWO tends to keep low prices and does not really have sales. Four FXD's at 20% off come out to $72 a stick,. Suddenly that stick receives the "best bang for the buck" award.
That was an awesome video, very comprehensive. I've been using my Hawks for several years. I have the long and the shorter version. For the price they're just hard to beat and I'm very partial to double steps. Thanks again for the video. It was the bomb!
Great review, I agree with the XOP’s minis. I use 3 of the minis with 2 Aiders to lighten the load of them. But I’ll probably end up grabbing the Novix minis and use the aiders instead.
Any noticeable change for stand-off distance with any of these when you put them on the tree? Great job with this review. I appreciate how unbiased this was. It seems like everyone plays favorites to a brand in other stick reviews. This was extremely helpful. 👍🏼
Thats 1 thing that is hard to show but is true. The distance on a flat surface doesn't translate to a round surface. But I feel its extremely hard to measure that...beasts sticks might have a little less due to the standoff design but its negligible
Being brand new to Saddle Hunting, the thought of spending that much money and having to customize any of them absolutely puts purchasing those ones out of contention. If it doesn’t work out of the box I’m scratching it off my list. Thanks or the video
I’m in commibook jail so I’ll add my comments here..thanks for taking the time to put all this together. Great information. With all that said, I cannot pull myself off the muddy pros. Even over a couple high end options I’ve had. I have them with api steps and they’re way better. Lighter too. But when my ewos get here I’m sure theyll be my go to stick...at least until I see the new ninjas. 😉
So I just ordered the tethrd ones and bought a double step aider. In this video you mentioned you can't hook anything onto the steps "ask me how I know" but your other video of them shows you using an aider. So what happened before and is it safe using an aider on the bottom steps ? Just want some clarification
I had tried to hook an s hook 3 step aider to it and a knaider. If the metal hook of either wat attached directly to the step it would not work correctly. The aiders sold at EWO or Backwoods Mobile Gear will work fine...aider designs especially for a moveable aider needed to be changed for this stick in particular
All that work a long video to watch, I appreciate it but if you had to buy one for your sons birthday and it was his first time using climbing sticks which one would it be? put price aside thank you
Once again as being brand new to Saddle Hunt doing that complete seems to me to be the only way to go anything other than that would be like buying old technology being able to do this in the dark in cold conditions camcleat really removes the risk of doing it wrong and makes me feel more safe
This is the best climbing stick review video I have seen. Any thoughts on using a cam cleat on an EWO Featherlight instead of a versa button for quicker attachment? I was thinking of doing that with a UP Platform on the top step plus some squirrel steps to avoid having to carry a Predator Platform.
@@ridgeraisedoutdoors its interesting half the people have experiences like me...the other half have experiences like you...what is your attachment method
Beast stick or Tethrd One Stick? looking to be as mobile as possible but still have decent foot on the stick. Open to options. I currently have the Hawk 20s and I like everything about them except for the weight.
I would say they are 1 of the best sticks at the price point. Something in the area where the industry was missing. Same thing goes for the xop x2 sticks
I am surprised you didn't rank the beast sticks higher . I have the beast mini stick and the 1 stick climbing method. To me what really like about them is thier really light weight and grabs the tree really well. I own a lone wolf climbing sticks before the original ones, before my tree saddle I was using my climbing tree stand. But at least your honest. Final question are beast stick the most popular because they are really hard buy always out of stock?
Beast stick are a solid option. For me I just don't like how they pack. I'd rather have the shikar fxd. But I wouldn't argue with anyone who loves their beast sticks. If I had beast sticks I probably wouldn't sell them in the hopes of getting something better...thats how close all these sticks really are.
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 I have a quick question let ask a hypothetical question if the stacking issue was fixed how rank the beast sticks ? Would go higher. Because I seem videos were use a metal rod to fix that problem
@@kidneystones3406 they stack very nice especially when you add stealth strip. I meant they stack very tall. Several sticks do. If they could make them more compact i wouldn't have any complaints.
Yes novix and trophy line have a new double step for the minis...it resembles the single step. They also have a wingman platform for the stick. It looks sweet
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 ok thanks for the reply 👍🏻 enjoyed your video! I’m looking for a good set of 3 or 4 stick combo that I can add an aider to & use for mobile hunting this coming season
Give me the weight and features of the tethrd sticks. The dead sound of the TN. The stacking of the lwcg doubles. And the footoom and standoff of the ewo...is that too much to ask for?hahaha
I have not. Tried every new stick but those. I think if they made a fixed version they would be really nice. I dont see an advantage to them collapsing a few inches.
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 yup can’t be feared only money can’t take it with u when u are gone. trophyline covert light saddle and mission platform along with a couple rope man
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 they are loose i used a gear tie. Was going to cut a Beast stick down for one-sticking but couldn't bring myself to do it. So i got a piece of that 6061-T6 aluminum tube and made a stick using EWO stand offs and Beast step with a straight scout on top works great.
They stack about the same height but the beast sticks stack inline as were the ewo are offset...if those were my options im taking the ewo sticks...but I wouldn't blame you for taking the beast sticks...were splitting hairs here
That's a helpful video. Thanks Luke. I keep dragging my feet on buying new sticks. I've got my original Hawks modified to a 23" step and they weigh 2lbs 4 oz with versa straps. With three sticks and a versa aider I'm at 18' without stretching. They just work so well that I'm hesitant to upgrade until I see exactly what I want. I'm hoping the Catalyst Carbon Pros are it!
Thank you. I believe in the if it isn't broke dont fix it approach. If anyone is happy with what they have then they should keep it. I think the most important thing is developing a repeatable system that will make you the most efficient no matter what gear you use.
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 just watched it, and the pin video. Boy I hope they have that sorted, as I just ordered them yesterday lol... almost have to have an aider to get as high as I typically hunt. 20’ or so in a saddle where I’m at seems to be the sweet spot for them to look up and not really spook. So many guys still using tree stands they sort of just give you a funny look and are confused and go about their business more often than not when I’m in the saddle up that high.
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 LWCG says they are 10.5” wide at the steps. I think I would rather have standoffs the grip the tree and give me foot room. The “One stick is in last place for everything but weight. Still gonna sell a bunch of them. Kind of a joke to me.
@@jcarter2575 i agree foot room and comfort are nice. I like some of the features of the tethrd sticks but man there is minimal contact with that wing on your foot
I would build and sell billet Aluminum sticks all day long if people are paying $150/stick lol. Anything over about 40-50 bucks seems overpriced for what these things are
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 ive built some over the last few years just for personal use (perks of owning CNC machines and having plenty of scrap aluminum on hand) I guess I just didn't realize how pricy these things have gotten lol
What a video! Its one thing to compare specs but having them all to compare on the spot is awesome! One of the best hunting product review videos ive seen.
That was by far the best review I have ever seen.
Wow thanks
I was going to post the same thing but you beat me to it.
Thanks for the HONEST superb best ever stick review
And believe me when I say I've watched THEM ALL and yours was easily the best
I am very similar in size as you at 6'-2" and fluctuate from 230-260lbs and wear 14xxw boots
Stick stability and stand off FOR ME surpass all other considerations
What your video showed me was if you're a big 230lb+ guy with over size 12 feet there are no perfect sticks out there at any price that will give you ultra light wight, ease of use/pack/stack/instal, and extream stability
Big guys with big feet will have to either compromise and accept certain drawbacks to get minimum weight or accept heavier weights and get the stick that will serve our needs best
I for one will gladly accept an additional 1-2lbs total weight to maximize my safety factor and minimize my fiddle factor
For me NWIH would I ever use a stick that only allows 3" or less of my boot on a step, or moves beyond a absolute minimal degree while in use
I also feel another factor of utmost importance hunters, especially older 50+ bigger hunters MUST consider
I advise all hunters especially bigger over 50YOA guys like me to absolutely factor into your step choices climbing up but most importantly down AND in the dark AFTER is the fatigue factor of four or five continuous days of hard hunting sets in it is when you are tired and fatigued while ascending or desending in the dark when your odds of something bad happening are your greatest and once tired and fatigued your odds of emerging uninjured from an incident are at thier lowest
TO ME saving 1.5-2lbs is not even close to be worth getting injured due to a unexpected shift of a stick of slipping off of a boot that when I was fresh and not fatigued wouldn't be nearly as big a factor as when the fatigue of 4 to 7 continuous days of hunting sets in and my chances of injuries have gone from minimal to much greater
Just something for us over 50yoa hunters who are bigger to much bigger than average size to consider.
Well said. Thank you.
this was extremely helpful!!!! It's a tough call deciding which sticks to buy. thanks for the video!
Thanks man...even tougher now that theres even more options
Really appreciate the attention to detail and thorough review. Thank you! Best I’ve seen. Very helpful.
Looking into getting my first set of budget sticks. Considering Hawk Helium 20" or 30" also considered XOP LMO4 that I believe is also a 30" 3 step @ 15" I like how secure the XOP appears to lock together for transport but concerned about the inefficiencies you mentioned? Any recommendations would be appreciated.
This helped me keep my stacked outdoors stick, was looking at other options but like what I have for now. Thanks for the best comparison review by far!!
Been looking forward to this review for a while. Great job! One note ... Out of the top three , OOAL has had many sales on sticks, making the FXD a really good bang for the buck if you can catch them on sale. The GWB's will never be on sale. EWO tends to keep low prices and does not really have sales. Four FXD's at 20% off come out to $72 a stick,. Suddenly that stick receives the "best bang for the buck" award.
That was something that I forgot to mention for sure how ooal and lwcg tend to have sales throughout the year. Thanks
Now that’s how you do a review! So nice to see all the similarities and differences in one video.
Thanks.
Totally agree. Probably the best review of climbing sticks I've seen. So well done!!
@@gcnphilly wow thanks alot man. I appreciate it
Great video brother. You put in a lot of effort in this for us. Much appreciated!
That was an awesome video, very comprehensive. I've been using my Hawks for several years. I have the long and the shorter version. For the price they're just hard to beat and I'm very partial to double steps. Thanks again for the video. It was the bomb!
For the price they are sure hard to beat
I've never seen such a in depth review
Great review, I agree with the XOP’s minis. I use 3 of the minis with 2 Aiders to lighten the load of them. But I’ll probably end up grabbing the Novix minis and use the aiders instead.
Absolutely Fantastic video! Helped me, buying Hawk mini’s. Thank you.
Any noticeable change for stand-off distance with any of these when you put them on the tree? Great job with this review. I appreciate how unbiased this was. It seems like everyone plays favorites to a brand in other stick reviews. This was extremely helpful. 👍🏼
Thats 1 thing that is hard to show but is true. The distance on a flat surface doesn't translate to a round surface. But I feel its extremely hard to measure that...beasts sticks might have a little less due to the standoff design but its negligible
Being brand new to Saddle Hunting, the thought of spending that much money and having to customize any of them absolutely puts purchasing those ones out of contention. If it doesn’t work out of the box I’m scratching it off my list. Thanks or the video
I’m in commibook jail so I’ll add my comments here..thanks for taking the time to put all this together. Great information. With all that said, I cannot pull myself off the muddy pros. Even over a couple high end options I’ve had. I have them with api steps and they’re way better. Lighter too. But when my ewos get here I’m sure theyll be my go to stick...at least until I see the new ninjas. 😉
I saw a gentleman yesterday selling muddys with ewo featherlight standoffs and steps. Said they weigh 2.3lbs. Thats a pretty sweet setup
Wow great video! Doing my research on saddle hunting before I take the step into it and this video sure helped a lot! I just need some sticks now ha
I’m in the same boat. Did you end up pulling the trigger on one and how do you like it?
How about ranking your top 5, with why you ranked them that way? Thanks for an out-freakin'-standing review! Lot of info.
So I just ordered the tethrd ones and bought a double step aider. In this video you mentioned you can't hook anything onto the steps "ask me how I know" but your other video of them shows you using an aider. So what happened before and is it safe using an aider on the bottom steps ? Just want some clarification
I had tried to hook an s hook 3 step aider to it and a knaider. If the metal hook of either wat attached directly to the step it would not work correctly. The aiders sold at EWO or Backwoods Mobile Gear will work fine...aider designs especially for a moveable aider needed to be changed for this stick in particular
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 appreciate the info , I ordered a double step aider from EWO so glad that'll work just fine, almost had me worried
All that work a long video to watch, I appreciate it but if you had to buy one for your sons birthday and it was his first time using climbing sticks which one would it be? put price aside thank you
Great run down and analysis of every stick.
Thank you
Great job thank you. I would like to see a review on the eastern outdoors one sticking with the UPplateform.
Once again as being brand new to Saddle Hunt doing that complete seems to me to be the only way to go anything other than that would be like buying old technology being able to do this in the dark in cold conditions camcleat really removes the risk of doing it wrong and makes me feel more safe
Can you send me a link to by the catalyst great white Buffalo climbing tree steps.
The company went out of business but i do have a set of 4 that id sell. If interested email me at realdealamsteel@yahoo.com
Ok thank you....
I'll email my email address. 👍
This is the best climbing stick review video I have seen. Any thoughts on using a cam cleat on an EWO Featherlight instead of a versa button for quicker attachment? I was thinking of doing that with a UP Platform on the top step plus some squirrel steps to avoid having to carry a Predator Platform.
Thats what I use on my ewo 1 stick
Great review man. I love my LWCG double steps.
Do they move around on you?
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 honestly no. They dig into the tree great for me. No problems, I used them all year
@@ridgeraisedoutdoors its interesting half the people have experiences like me...the other half have experiences like you...what is your attachment method
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 I just use the stock straps and versa button
@@ridgeraisedoutdoors that totally makes sense now. How do you pack the buckles
Beast stick or Tethrd One Stick? looking to be as mobile as possible but still have decent foot on the stick. Open to options. I currently have the Hawk 20s and I like everything about them except for the weight.
I would look into the new tethrd skeletor sticks...they just released them today
I realize this is 2 years old, but how does the Tethered Skelators compare?
I would say they are 1 of the best sticks at the price point. Something in the area where the industry was missing. Same thing goes for the xop x2 sticks
Seriously....best review ever .....and I've seen a LOT
Wow thanks alot
I am surprised you didn't rank the beast sticks higher . I have the beast mini stick and the 1 stick climbing method. To me what really like about them is thier really light weight and grabs the tree really well. I own a lone wolf climbing sticks before the original ones, before my tree saddle I was using my climbing tree stand. But at least your honest. Final question are beast stick the most popular because they are really hard buy always out of stock?
Beast stick are a solid option. For me I just don't like how they pack. I'd rather have the shikar fxd. But I wouldn't argue with anyone who loves their beast sticks. If I had beast sticks I probably wouldn't sell them in the hopes of getting something better...thats how close all these sticks really are.
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 I have a quick question let ask a hypothetical question if the stacking issue was fixed how rank the beast sticks ? Would go higher. Because I seem videos were use a metal rod to fix that problem
@@kidneystones3406 they stack very nice especially when you add stealth strip. I meant they stack very tall. Several sticks do. If they could make them more compact i wouldn't have any complaints.
Great review and thanks for getting this all together. I’ll probably stick with my beast sticks but the EWO and the fixed Shikars do look tempting.
Thanks man its probably not worth changing in my opinion
Great video!!! Did you say Novix are making a double step stick?
Yes that's what im hearing
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 it’s hard to go past them in their current configuration at the price!
Nice review! I'm waiting on my beast minis to be in mail today!
I imagine you will live them
Great video! Thank you for all the info!
Killer review buddy! Waiting on the catalyst myself!
I hope they are cooking up something special
Did you say novix is coming out with a double step stick? Any further info that you can give on those?!
Yes novix and trophy line have a new double step for the minis...it resembles the single step. They also have a wingman platform for the stick. It looks sweet
Summit has a aluminum stick out that you didn’t include? I don’t know much about it but like all sticks wondered how it stacks up to others?
I've heard about them but never seen them
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 ok thanks for the reply 👍🏻 enjoyed your video! I’m looking for a good set of 3 or 4 stick combo that I can add an aider to & use for mobile hunting this coming season
Good stuff Luke. The puzzle continues to be unsolved
Give me the weight and features of the tethrd sticks. The dead sound of the TN. The stacking of the lwcg doubles. And the footoom and standoff of the ewo...is that too much to ask for?hahaha
@@srtsaddlehunter3285I bought the skeletors . Not shown. To get more stand-off.
Thanks for doing this..I get new sticks every year and still not happy with my choices. I like foot room :)
I'd suggest eastern woods outdoors
How well do the EWO Feather sticks pack?
I know this is a2 year old video but have you tried the Hunt Arsenal Icon X20’s yet?
I have not. Tried every new stick but those. I think if they made a fixed version they would be really nice. I dont see an advantage to them collapsing a few inches.
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 thank you for your opinion.
So you pay for each stick separately when you buy climbing sticks?
I just ordered my tethrd one 3 set couple nights ago I’m going saddle hunting this yr looking to be more mobile and make hunting easier
You jumped in deep straight out of the gate...what else are you getting
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 yup can’t be feared only money can’t take it with u when u are gone. trophyline covert light saddle and mission platform along with a couple rope man
Are your LWCG sticks still for sale?
With the Beast sticks, put on the EWO standoffs , works great.
I was talking to a buddy last night about this...will they stack with no issues?
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 they are loose i used a gear tie. Was going to cut a Beast stick down for one-sticking but couldn't bring myself to do it. So i got a piece of that 6061-T6 aluminum tube and made a stick using EWO stand offs and Beast step with a straight scout on top works great.
The EWO's seem to be the ticket as you can add a platform...My 3 step Helium's are just too heavy for this old ass!
You should try the JX3 climbing sticks. I own 3 different types and the JX3 are the best.
I had them and sold them. Great sticks paired with the jx3. But several options id choose over them with any other setup
Which is has best weight to foot room ratio?
Awesome video, I learned a lot. Liked and subscribed 👍✌🏹🦌
Thanks for the support
What stacks better? The EWO or the Beast Sticks?
They stack about the same height but the beast sticks stack inline as were the ewo are offset...if those were my options im taking the ewo sticks...but I wouldn't blame you for taking the beast sticks...were splitting hairs here
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 Appreciate the response, thank you!
@Hunt Time they just don't stack as good as some of the others.
Very thorough. Thank you.
Forgot the OG that started it all...the legendary lone wolf's. Joking aside I like my beasties. Split em and carry 2 on each side of pack.
Thats exactly how I would do it.
Thanks man.. Lot of great info
Thanks for watching
Learned a lot! Thanks man.
Thank you
That's a helpful video. Thanks Luke. I keep dragging my feet on buying new sticks. I've got my original Hawks modified to a 23" step and they weigh 2lbs 4 oz with versa straps. With three sticks and a versa aider I'm at 18' without stretching. They just work so well that I'm hesitant to upgrade until I see exactly what I want. I'm hoping the Catalyst Carbon Pros are it!
Thank you. I believe in the if it isn't broke dont fix it approach. If anyone is happy with what they have then they should keep it. I think the most important thing is developing a repeatable system that will make you the most efficient no matter what gear you use.
great review, very much appreciated
Thank you
Can you explain the aider and Tethrd stick issue ?
Have you seen my tethrd stick review? I go over it in there if you haven't
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 just watched it, and the pin video. Boy I hope they have that sorted, as I just ordered them yesterday lol... almost have to have an aider to get as high as I typically hunt. 20’ or so in a saddle where I’m at seems to be the sweet spot for them to look up and not really spook. So many guys still using tree stands they sort of just give you a funny look and are confused and go about their business more often than not when I’m in the saddle up that high.
I don’t see the big emphasis on stacking. Lay the EWO on their side and the have about same footprint as the LWCG double sticks.
Not really
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 LWCG says they are 10.5” wide at the steps. I think I would rather have standoffs the grip the tree and give me foot room.
The “One stick is in last place for everything but weight. Still gonna sell a bunch of them. Kind of a joke to me.
@@jcarter2575 i agree foot room and comfort are nice. I like some of the features of the tethrd sticks but man there is minimal contact with that wing on your foot
Solid video brother 👌
Thank you
So does the xop have one of the best foot pegs
On the single step sticks a very good step. On the new doubles not soo great
0:05 I thought you were going to make a stick pun about comparing different kinds of sticks. Oak, birch, maple... 😂
A buddy of mine said...you should've said at the end of the video that your favorite stick was the twig in your hand
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 really appreciate the time and work you put into these videos, I've learned so much from the saddle hunting community!
Very good video
Great review thanks 👍
Awesome video!
Thank you
Great device
Great review
Thank you
I thought i was bad, and i have 6 sets of sticks!
Im down to 6 myself...need to get it down to 1 or 2
What's your favorite vinc??
Buen día vivo en Cancún México me interesan unos me gusta la cazeria cómo le acemos amigo saludos
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Thanks dude :)
End all be all climbing stick video.
Thanks You. I tried my best to capture the essence of each stick
If you’re gonna spend this much money on mobile sticks...spend some money on a good microphone for your audio. Thanks for the info!
Low budget production but im trying to up my game a bit
I would build and sell billet Aluminum sticks all day long if people are paying $150/stick lol. Anything over about 40-50 bucks seems overpriced for what these things are
Make the perfect stick and people will pay even more
@@srtsaddlehunter3285 ive built some over the last few years just for personal use (perks of owning CNC machines and having plenty of scrap aluminum on hand) I guess I just didn't realize how pricy these things have gotten lol
Bro could you not find somewhere a little warmer to shoot this video 🤣
90 f**** a peice! Lol
Buy made in USA.!