Elissa Farman actually sailed the Sunset Sea on her boat, Sun Chaser, and found 3 islands that she named Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya. Then on a later voyage, Corlys Valeryon swore that he saw an aged Sun Chaser while in Asshai. So it’s possible that Elissa reached Essos through the Sunset Sea
Seriously, they couldn't have waited? Also, shame on her... if it occurred to me that I could attempt that I'd pack some food and leave within an hour lol
There was another explorer who attempted to cross the Sunset Sea. Her name was Elissa Farmen, daughter of Lord Farmen Of Faircastle. She was similar to Arya in personality and had a passion for sailing. She built a ship known as Sun Chaser and embarked on an expedition west along with two members of House Hightower. Only one of the Hightowers returned claiming to have discovered three islands far across the sea which had new, strange spices and was inhabited by large grey lizards with a poisonous bite. Komodo Dragons maybe? Anyway, the remaining crew decided to return to Westeros out of fear but Elissa continued west and was never heard from again. A Westerosi man (can’t remember his name) was visiting Asshai and spotted a docked ship he believed was Sun Chaser. Maybe Elissa succeeded in her quest of discovering new lands and riches?
The Westerosi man was Coryls Velaryon, The Sea Snake. And its worth mentioning that Elissa got the money buy her ships by stealing three dragon eggs and selling them in Essos. These are most likely where Ilyrio Mopatis got the three eggs that he gave to Daenerys
You have to think the show is during one of the bloodies war in history, after the Valyrian ones. If you were living there during a period peace, it wouldn´t be so shitty.
Saying bandits are everywhere is flat out wrong, nothing tells us they are more numerous on average compared to our middle ages criminals. I don´t understand the point of the Simon Toyne thing, neither the example of Robert´s bastards. Those are different things, I could point out a single example from our world and say criminality is super common and nobody does a thing about it, it would be the same.
G-Rex Saurus Simon Toyne was a bandit leader that was basically able to amass an army right next to the capital of King's Landing. Westeros is sort of like a much more brutal Mexico. You have all of these bandits and mercenary groups running around and the king does nothing about it unless it is an actual threat like Simon Toyne. You say that it depends on if it's a time of peace or not but Westeros is never in a time of peace. In the shadow of massive wars like The War of the Five kings you have small conflicts between petty nobles and pretty soon you'll be taken off your farm to fight in some insignificant battle. Also considering there is a 90% chance you'll be a peasant with no formal fighting education I'd say there is a 65% chance you'll have your stomach impaled by a spear on the battlefield. I haven't even mentioned the countless diseases that plague the populous. Sorry for ruining your day. I just wanted to tell you that Westeros isn't the glorified world you imagine it to be and that you'll most likely die within a couple days.
Well this planet's size should be fairly similar to our own given what appears to be the same pull of gravity and similar geologic composition. I suppose with that in mind someone could estimate how much of the world remains undiscovered assuming there's some relatively accurate measurements of what is already known.
Most of the physics seem to largely abide by the same rules. Obviously dragons actually flying and other "magic" shows there's more to it than that, but I see no reason to think the more fundamental rules don't apply for the most part, especially as the author's goal was to largely minimize the more fantastic aspects of his world.
+Apex Devil I once read that one, it was ok but his sunset Starks were too op. Like how would their kingdom be so powerful that they conquered everything up to ib?
maybe what lies beyond the sunset sea is so wonderful, a land of always summer, that no one ever wanted to come back, or maybe it's so monstrous, and dangerous that no one can come back anyway we'll never know, with Martin speed, of 1 book every century, I would find out sooner by trying to cross it, while swimming (if it existed)
I like how the relationship of what lies beyond the sunset sea mirrors that of the western sea in tolkiens world. If elves didnt exist in middle-earth to tell men about the valar and Melkor then men of the middle earth would not know why people who ventured west did not return. It's a little like George RR Martins world is the fifth age of middle earth George RR martin did say he was inspired by Tolkien. Just thought this was an intresting comparison
I always wondered, is the "RR" an ode to Tolkien, or largely a coincidence? I realize the names were obviously coincidences, but most don't use their middle initials like that.
The Roman Empire was in the 5th Age of Middle Earth... Far more likely this is all far in the future on a human colony that forgot it's history then it is LotR fanfic.
Gotta say I love these videos. I know the most of the information in them already but it's great to hear it put to words and in such a very fluent and concise way.
I was surprised there was no mention of Elissa Farman. She did sail the Sunset Sea on her ship Sun Chaser, along with two Hightower ships, and found three small islands (she named them after Aegon the Conqueror and his sisters) before pursuing forward, never to be seen again. Except.. Some years later, when Corlys Velaryon, the Sea Snake, went to Asshai by the Shadow on one of his nine famous journeys, he swears he saw a ship there that could've been none other that Sun Chaser. This suggests she did manage to sail around the world, but l don't think we'll ever get a definitive confirmation on that. Still, pretty neat.
I love these videos - so informative! You should do a video on all the magical and mythological creatures within the ASOIAF world. Fire dragons, ice dragons, stone dragons, sea dragons, kraken, sphinxes, basillisks, etc.
I would say the reason the Iron Isles say there is no land beyond is akin to the Vikings and the Basques of Northern Spain; to avoid competition from others. To make sure they found bountiful fishing waters and kept said locations to themselves or encounters with peoples of the Americas a mystery. Remember, the Vikings went as far as Newfoundland in historical records and legends of Templar Knights went to Nova Scotia. So if there are lands beyond the Sunset Sea, the people of the Iron Isles won't confirm or deny anything.
Yeah but they are part of a united realm now, theres no way you could keep such a secret for long. If there was official discoveries by the Iron Islanders, someone would have definetly found evidence and presented it to some rich lord or the king.
You should do an update video on this, now that we have new information since GRRM new book.. We now know that Alissa Farman sailed west most found three magic Islands and named it Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya then sailed more west and disaapeared. But Velaryon sailor guy saw her ship at Asshai some 20 years later..
sunset sea is really interesting and i think that the people who sailed there found a world far better than essos and westeros and lived there and maybe they are still people or maybe even kingdoms and empires living there. i hope that arya in the show would sail there and martin write a story for her and the lands she ventures.
and then one day a great explorer named Christopherus Columbias approached the prince of dorne for an expedition claiming he could sail across the narrow sea to asshai but ended up running smack into a new continent and these people calling themselves Aztecles who happened to be very rich in gold
Hey Ex, you should make a discord chat for the channel where you would announce upcoming videos and you would address different things. I could help you if you want.
Zorokthegreat it would make zero sense. First off middle earth is a continent not the whole world, the world is called arda. Arda was flat in the first age however eru made it round in the second, also the entirety of area is mapped as the world is small
If Westeros is some version of Europe and the British island, Essos and the other continent are the Middle East + Africa and Yi Ti is Asia, then across the sea must be some representation of America. Also, lonely light = Iceland?
When the first men came to Westeros the children flooded the arm of dorne as well as attempting to flood the neck resulting in its marshlike rivery area. I think the iron islands were probably in the mainland before the children flooded the neck, and the iron born were just first men who got to the now iron islands before the flood and were trapped there.
You gotta fly... If you sail, you will go mad or starve... Or get scurvy... or get killed by pirates... or be eaten by a kraken..or a sea dragon... Or the deep ones. Flying lessens your chance of death, However you still need a place to land... You can't fly forever.
I was wondering if you would ever do a remake of Beyond the Wall? While you did a great job in the original video, I just feel like the content could've been fleshed out more like in your recent videos. Your content is great though, keep up the good work!
There's probably another continent there. As the map of the Known World only extends to the equator, we can assume Planetos is far less than 50% explored.
I don't believe for a second that Planetos is flat, there are clearly tectonic plates, at one point Westeros was united with Essos but it separated because of a divergent boundary
Maybe westeros is just a small area in a vast advanced world that is like an exile so no one outisde of westeros and essos communicates with them because they are way behind the rest of the world maybe?
Elissa Farman actually sailed the Sunset Sea on her boat, Sun Chaser, and found 3 islands that she named Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya. Then on a later voyage, Corlys Valeryon swore that he saw an aged Sun Chaser while in Asshai. So it’s possible that Elissa reached Essos through the Sunset Sea
David Badaro so there's only 3 islands west of westeros areas in for a shock
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If you ever read fire and blood you would know what he is talking about.
Earth is flat though
@@buskerbusker8826 Earth is flat but this is not Earth
I hope someone makes the journey across the Sunset Sea eventually lol, I'm terribly curious what's on the other side.
Whoever killed Queen Rhaenys before she could try flying across it deserves a slap
Seriously, they couldn't have waited?
Also, shame on her... if it occurred to me that I could attempt that I'd pack some food and leave within an hour lol
'Murica offcourse
I'm more interested in Sothoryos
On the other side is Donald Trump's America.
There was another explorer who attempted to cross the Sunset Sea. Her name was Elissa Farmen, daughter of Lord Farmen Of Faircastle. She was similar to Arya in personality and had a passion for sailing. She built a ship known as Sun Chaser and embarked on an expedition west along with two members of House Hightower. Only one of the Hightowers returned claiming to have discovered three islands far across the sea which had new, strange spices and was inhabited by large grey lizards with a poisonous bite. Komodo Dragons maybe? Anyway, the remaining crew decided to return to Westeros out of fear but Elissa continued west and was never heard from again. A Westerosi man (can’t remember his name) was visiting Asshai and spotted a docked ship he believed was Sun Chaser. Maybe Elissa succeeded in her quest of discovering new lands and riches?
The Westerosi man was Coryls Velaryon, The Sea Snake. And its worth mentioning that Elissa got the money buy her ships by stealing three dragon eggs and selling them in Essos. These are most likely where Ilyrio Mopatis got the three eggs that he gave to Daenerys
the known world is a mystery in its entirety
@@protoeuropeanhistorian7369 just ice
If I lived in Westeros I would totally be an explorer to go check out all these unkown places myself
can you stop spamming that out of context comment?
Antartica is already explored, moron.
In Westeros you cant travel from one city to another without getting robbed, raped, murdered or all of the above so good luck.
You have to think the show is during one of the bloodies war in history, after the Valyrian ones.
If you were living there during a period peace, it wouldn´t be so shitty.
Saying bandits are everywhere is flat out wrong, nothing tells us they are more numerous on average compared to our middle ages criminals.
I don´t understand the point of the Simon Toyne thing, neither the example of Robert´s bastards. Those are different things, I could point out a single example from our world and say criminality is super common and nobody does a thing about it, it would be the same.
G-Rex Saurus Simon Toyne was a bandit leader that was basically able to amass an army right next to the capital of King's Landing. Westeros is sort of like a much more brutal Mexico. You have all of these bandits and mercenary groups running around and the king does nothing about it unless it is an actual threat like Simon Toyne. You say that it depends on if it's a time of peace or not but Westeros is never in a time of peace. In the shadow of massive wars like The War of the Five kings you have small conflicts between petty nobles and pretty soon you'll be taken off your farm to fight in some insignificant battle. Also considering there is a 90% chance you'll be a peasant with no formal fighting education I'd say there is a 65% chance you'll have your stomach impaled by a spear on the battlefield. I haven't even mentioned the countless diseases that plague the populous. Sorry for ruining your day. I just wanted to tell you that Westeros isn't the glorified world you imagine it to be and that you'll most likely die within a couple days.
Makes you wonder if across the sunset sea is the backside of asshai and stygai
and Ulthos too right? since it is just south of asshai
Well this planet's size should be fairly similar to our own given what appears to be the same pull of gravity and similar geologic composition.
I suppose with that in mind someone could estimate how much of the world remains undiscovered assuming there's some relatively accurate measurements of what is already known.
dude we got dragons, magic, undead ice zombie, giants and the gravity is the part that doesn't make you believe the planet can be larger than ours?
Most of the physics seem to largely abide by the same rules. Obviously dragons actually flying and other "magic" shows there's more to it than that, but I see no reason to think the more fundamental rules don't apply for the most part, especially as the author's goal was to largely minimize the more fantastic aspects of his world.
Yeah I think you're right, it just sounded a bit funny
I bet that Stark established a new kingdom across the ocean and a branch of stark just sits there
Eric Barrios And the head of the house is Tony Stark
Eric Barrios I can just imagine an iron born sailor shitting himself after looking West and seeing thousands of ships with a modified Stark banner
Eric Barrios SoulGamesInc made a series and fan fiction based on this idea named the Sunset Starks.
+Apex Devil I once read that one, it was ok but his sunset Starks were too op. Like how would their kingdom be so powerful that they conquered everything up to ib?
Apex Devil what's the name of the fanfic
Another great video. The mystery of the World of Ice & Fire is just so captivating. What other lands are there to discover?!
maybe what lies beyond the sunset sea is so wonderful, a land of always summer, that no one ever wanted to come back,
or maybe it's so monstrous, and dangerous that no one can come back
anyway we'll never know, with Martin speed, of 1 book every century, I would find out sooner by trying to cross it, while swimming (if it existed)
it's called alfasia I think.
I like how the relationship of what lies beyond the sunset sea mirrors that of the western sea in tolkiens world. If elves didnt exist in middle-earth to tell men about the valar and Melkor then men of the middle earth would not know why people who ventured west did not return. It's a little like George RR Martins world is the fifth age of middle earth
George RR martin did say he was inspired by Tolkien. Just thought this was an intresting comparison
I always wondered, is the "RR" an ode to Tolkien, or largely a coincidence? I realize the names were obviously coincidences, but most don't use their middle initials like that.
De Brickashaw it indeed was an ode to tolkien
pretty sure its a coincidence but it's a nice one imo
He more directly references H.P. Lovecraft and Cthulu Mythos
The Roman Empire was in the 5th Age of Middle Earth...
Far more likely this is all far in the future on a human colony that forgot it's history then it is LotR fanfic.
Gotta say I love these videos. I know the most of the information in them already but it's great to hear it put to words and in such a very fluent and concise way.
surprised you didn't mention Euron
Even if euron lies about most of his tales, I thought he would at least get a shout out...
I was surprised there was no mention of Elissa Farman. She did sail the Sunset Sea on her ship Sun Chaser, along with two Hightower ships, and found three small islands (she named them after Aegon the Conqueror and his sisters) before pursuing forward, never to be seen again. Except..
Some years later, when Corlys Velaryon, the Sea Snake, went to Asshai by the Shadow on one of his nine famous journeys, he swears he saw a ship there that could've been none other that Sun Chaser. This suggests she did manage to sail around the world, but l don't think we'll ever get a definitive confirmation on that. Still, pretty neat.
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I love these videos - so informative! You should do a video on all the magical and mythological creatures within the ASOIAF world. Fire dragons, ice dragons, stone dragons, sea dragons, kraken, sphinxes, basillisks, etc.
I would say the reason the Iron Isles say there is no land beyond is akin to the Vikings and the Basques of Northern Spain; to avoid competition from others. To make sure they found bountiful fishing waters and kept said locations to themselves or encounters with peoples of the Americas a mystery. Remember, the Vikings went as far as Newfoundland in historical records and legends of Templar Knights went to Nova Scotia.
So if there are lands beyond the Sunset Sea, the people of the Iron Isles won't confirm or deny anything.
Yeah but they are part of a united realm now, theres no way you could keep such a secret for long. If there was official discoveries by the Iron Islanders, someone would have definetly found evidence and presented it to some rich lord or the king.
Gylbert Farwynd of the Lonelylight!....GYLBERT KING!!
bastard Stark DireCrow GYLBERT KING
bastard DireCrow GYLBERT KING!!!
Gylbert King!
You clowns aren’t going to win Gylbert Farwynd the kingsmoot you know.
Does house farwynd have smallfolk in the lonely light or just their family
probably has like alan and his wife gemma and there 3 kids bob bill and Bernie living in a house next to the farwynd
family
No it's just their ultra-incestified family. Of course the have some commoners to rule over, how else would there be a functioning society there
or they are king of the seal people hail king farwynd and there army of seal smallfolk
One Hightower ship discovered 3 new islands in the west
Bran the Builder could have found east essos. And that's why Muscuvy has skin changers.
You should do an update video on this, now that we have new information since GRRM new book..
We now know that Alissa Farman sailed west most found three magic Islands and named it Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya then sailed more west and disaapeared. But Velaryon sailor guy saw her ship at Asshai some 20 years later..
sunset sea is really interesting and i think that the people who sailed there found a world far better than essos and westeros and lived there and maybe they are still people or maybe even kingdoms and empires living there.
i hope that arya in the show would sail there and martin write a story for her and the lands she ventures.
soorena firouzabadi or just the shadowlands and other ancient fallen kingdoms of undead and other horrors (stygaii, asshai,)
Aron Johansson the world is not round.
@@soorenafirouzabadi633 It is Thought Martin said that a while back
this seems more like a video on Iron islanders then sunset sea
Iron islanders are the backbone of the sunset king, that realm is the major culture, other then westerlands
I needed this
And then brandon stark arrive at narnia and build capaian kingdom
*Caspian fuck autocerrect
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I really like your channel. Could you do a video about the descendants of valyria? Like the places where their blood still flows?
and then one day a great explorer named Christopherus Columbias approached the prince of dorne for an expedition claiming he could sail across the narrow sea to asshai but ended up running smack into a new continent and these people calling themselves Aztecles who happened to be very rich in gold
good video. thnx for the fix i need it to make it to the next episode
Hey Ex, you should make a discord chat for the channel where you would announce upcoming videos and you would address different things. I could help you if you want.
Brandon was never seen again because planetos is flat
woke af
Stannis The Mannis Baratheon It's a conspiracy led by the Citadel.
It's the reason they killed King BoB and then Ned for trying to reveal their secret
Ugh, I think these comments are what varys heard in the flames
All the way woke!
Wow love the art,how do you make the art or is it someone else?
Id like to think middle earth is beyond the sunset sea... just something to think about
Zorokthegreat it would make zero sense. First off middle earth is a continent not the whole world, the world is called arda. Arda was flat in the first age however eru made it round in the second, also the entirety of area is mapped as the world is small
Jarls Terra I didn't say I believed it, if would have read my comment properly you would see that i said "id like to think"
Zorokthegreat Stop trying to cover up your insensible thoughts
I thought it was a fun idea.
Jarls Terra you must be fun at parties
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If Westeros is some version of Europe and the British island, Essos and the other continent are the Middle East + Africa and Yi Ti is Asia, then across the sea must be some representation of America. Also, lonely light = Iceland?
Everything correct but I think Africa may be sothourios
I think of Lonely Light as St Kilda.
Actually even Western Essos (Braavos, Lys, Volantis, Valyria) is Europe.
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:)
House Grimm (3:12, bottom second from left) does not claim to be Ironborn, they rule Greyshield in the Reach.
Is there a track for the background music? Anyone know how I can get it?
It's called Ice and Fire by RFGB, there is a link in the description.
In the final book the Lost Starks will return with a mighty army to defeat the Others and reestablish the King in the North.
GILBERT KING!
3:56 Looks like DCEU Aquaman.
how mysterious
When the first men came to Westeros the children flooded the arm of dorne as well as attempting to flood the neck resulting in its marshlike rivery area. I think the iron islands were probably in the mainland before the children flooded the neck, and the iron born were just first men who got to the now iron islands before the flood and were trapped there.
Orochi that makes no sense
Orochi that makes no sense
You gotta fly... If you sail, you will go mad or starve... Or get scurvy... or get killed by pirates... or be eaten by a kraken..or a sea dragon... Or the deep ones. Flying lessens your chance of death, However you still need a place to land... You can't fly forever.
Ironmans bay, holy shit tony stark confirmed
real recognizes real
I was wondering if you would ever do a remake of Beyond the Wall? While you did a great job in the original video, I just feel like the content could've been fleshed out more like in your recent videos. Your content is great though, keep up the good work!
I want the series to end with Arya, Gendry and Ed Sheeren sailing off in the Sunset Sea.
...and they offer Ed Sheeren as a sacrifice to the drowned god?
classicMaxReviews. Yes. Yes, yes this must be a thing!
no
Well you were 1/3rd right !
You were 1/3 right
There's probably another continent there. As the map of the Known World only extends to the equator, we can assume Planetos is far less than 50% explored.
Vaperisor by westerosi
Probably 40to 20% as I don't know how long Essos Or How big planetos is
I've always been curious to what is beyond Sunset Sea.
Some belive that the lands across the sunset sea are the eastern part of essos. So interesting!
Hrothgar? He didn't even bother embellishing that one?
cheers
Not the House of Hoare lmao
If a sailor sails too far into the west it will find Merica, and their inhabitants will pillage Westeros searching for oil.
morfrido You mean Slavers Bay
Read that as "Mercia" at first.
A Hightower didn't found 3 islands
You find out how valuable a whale is once you realize that it’s blubber provides oil and fat that creates the oil for torches and candles
Do a vid on the red kraken
I would think that if you left from Pyke sailing west you would circle your way back to the eastern coast of the shadowlands.
I don't believe for a second that Planetos is flat, there are clearly tectonic plates, at one point Westeros was united with Essos but it separated because of a divergent boundary
False! It's obvious that beyond the Sunset Sea is the lands conquered by Gnaeus Scipio in the Weaboo island chain called "Japan". Im totally serious.
@@flynn659 Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆🤣 Delete now or I will Neutralize you for revaliing the truth' Gloy to Valyria
I wonder if we will ever know what's out there
I know is hardcore but it will be good
3:42 Greater Chile
You should Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k lord
imagine across the sea there is a whole new world which os super advanced and has guns bombs etc. like marley
Gylbert king! Gylbert king!
Maybe westeros is just a small area in a vast advanced world that is like an exile so no one outisde of westeros and essos communicates with them because they are way behind the rest of the world maybe?
Dagon!!!
I think there is another land before Asshai and Ulthos. The world would be small if that's the case but if that's what George wants then... well!
It seems like ASOIAF-based videos are the most liked on your channel, maybe you should focus more on these types of videos! :)
Dinos are in the west of sunset sea and maybe bird people in the mountains
If I were wealthy and all of Westeros was going to shit like in the show I would just take my wealth and sail to mossovy and beyond. I
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They find America, where people are 400 KG, and eating burgers all day
Gylbert Farwynd will win the kingsmoot!
I thought bear island was closer to the iron islands than that.
What if what's west of Westeros is just Essos?
please make harry potter timeline,and xmen too
Ellissa farman?
The Sunset Sea belongs the iron islands....and Lonely Light too....I guess
isnt leviathein a sea monster
I’d say the iron islands are a mix of first men and maybe some of the other race
I think they will find the new World
GYLBERT KING!
"What's West of Westeros?"
Probably North and South Americos
Gylbert King!
I have no idea what this channel is about? I'm confused ? Mythical worlds or ??
+Vzext- luiii It explores fantasy and science fiction worlds like a song of Ice and fire
Vzext- luiii Game of Thrones. So much game of thrones.
If Essos is rather oriental then America must be west across the ocean
The Ironborn are stupid
no one knows who built the sea chair, could of been the deep ones. you speak as if you know for sure who did
I said the Maester believed that, I was talking about what he wrote in his book.