Man I'm stuck on 22-26 😴. Got M Bison, Chun Li, Rose and Elena in my setup with fashion sakura assist on Chun Li and m Ryu on rose. What am I doing wrong?
I get it but flawed logic. Works when you are spending consistent money on the. Low spenders/f2p players would hit a hard wall so quicky. As you said you need level do push content. Where would the level come from? Waiting on blues? You can't even push content to earn enough blues. And you idle rewards will just be awful . You are 6months ahead of the general player
@@PayneBlade cool, looking forward to it. I’m f2p, been playing for three weeks, spend like $10… my power at 600k and im at 20-4, i’m unable to process further, still need like 2 more A+ fodder to have x4 character at SSS and break my lvl200 cap. I wonder if equipment and car will boost my power more or lvl cap.
Brilliant info! I've been only using copies of a character to rank up that character. I've never fed a character to another character. So my understanding is, the "max level" is 240. In order to raise this "max level" past 240, you need to "socket" one of each character in Limit Break, which increases the "max level" by 5 levels (for each unique character), from 240 to 405? I've been adding one of each character to it as I can afford the slots, and ranking each character up using duplicates of itself (not feeding them to different characters). I hope I am understanding this system correctly. Keep the amazing SF:D content rolling my friend!
I’m so with you on this I was pushing this a few weeks ago but i named the video so badly I don’t think anyone watched it 😂 But 100% between wasting dupes and levelling characters you like vs characters you have at a higher awakening level people are just stalling progress needlessly
Applicable only if events don't exist, ie. Stage event and awakening event. So if you want to push for events then u can use bad A characters to get 6k+ crystals
Thanks for the video. Wish I knew this earlier. This is my first gacha and I stupidly fed my A+ Bzan early not knowing how good he was. Now I’m lowkey stuck progression wise (23-25 on challenges and 278 on Supreme Fist). On another note you’re putting out solid content covering this game. Subbed
I understand not doing this but for the f2p life im a very new player so I feed off yun but the food comes so slowly when your not making progress so I feel like yea there we a lv to it but with how long it will take for us to max out bison Judi gen all of them then there’s no point
I'm doing an f2p series right now on the channel with no bison, juri, rose and Gen because you are right they are going to take too long but getting food has been easy as f2p because as u unlocked faction towers and inverse world u get so much blue units. Not to mention events too. I believe in you guys to make the best decisions for your gameplay tho!
@@PayneBlade the gore ken is a whale-exclusive, I see :/ Ty for the fast answer man, I now know I'll have to drop using my poor "S only" ken at some point u_u
Tbh I'm about to dupe away some A rank characters because I invested everything from the last events into B rank cards, so I can complete the global awakening bison chest. Only have 1 day left though, idk if I can make it but if I can, I will dupe combat Guile, Guy and t hawk
@@PayneBlade Well after the maintenance was finally finished i spend all gems I got, did all the new events etc but it seems like I can't make it even if I would dupe the A ranks :/ Have to do the math later
Well a very sad update: Even if I dupe 2 A+ Thawk, 1 A+ Combat Guile, 1 S+ Combat Guile, 1 S+ Guy, 1 S+ Poison, 1 S+ Blanka, can push through from 19-20 to 19-40, get lucky on the 20 faction tokens and get one more B. zangief to SSS+1 him... Even after aaall of that, I can only go to exactly 1390 points, which feels like a punch I the face right now... Rip f2p
Well I needed to use one A+ Combat Guile (I still have one and one A) as food to finish global awakening in time. I really cant see him at SSS in near future as I have like two other thunder units that will get there first and higher, and Iam out of food, which I have no idea when I will actually get with the amount of tokens for anything you get as F2P (needing TWO S+ units as fodder is now feeling like unachievable goal) This is really an end game I might not even reach or the game wont even be around for that long.
@@PayneBlade yes I did, but even then, I made two thunder SSS units, Makoto is next, Zangief is after because of dupes. THe problem is with inverse world I could unlock one more but would have to do 32 on arctic lake which was impossible for me. All in all, I dont feel that one A+ is going to slow me down in any way really. Not even mentioning how behind are my air and fire with fodder, as I prioritised thunder all the way. For f2p one copy of bison will always be better than one A+ (I still feel blessed I have even finished the global awakening just with one A+ sacrificed, but it was really close to do it only with fodder, but would need like two, three more days of lucky blue crystal pulls, maybe even more)
Thank you for the great video. I did not understand everything when you talked about substitute function. Like I want to get a Fei Long. I can put 2 copy of any A rank character and I will get a Fei Long ? Is there specific type requirement ? And it is the same for Master and Infernal Type besides having to put 3 ? 😊
Only works if you substitute infernal and master units and u can get any unit. So get 1 non infernal/master unit if you trade 2 infernal / master unit or get 1 infernal/master unit if you trade 3 infernal / master units. Mainly used if you have dupe infernal or master units
@@PayneBlade Oh I see. Thank you the clarification. I have not unlocked it yet and wanted to know what it did precisely. Love your channel and will look forward to your videos. Having a whale giving insights is cool ☺️
It has a preset program that after you get the B units to A it tries to only do specific same units for each faction. Ie always Dan for lightning, Cody for wind and Ken for fire
How weird, they give you trash characters to evolve with. That seems silly to feed SSS'able characters. It's not going to speed you through content, it will just slow you down.
With all due respect, idk how I feel about a $13k account giving progression advice. Like what would you say for the struggle? Get more $$? 😂 I'm only being about 65% serious
Haha no cause I have an f2p account. My goal is to give advice on units and team building by testing things at capacity so you guys don't waste resources such as stones for fighting spirit. Progression lies in level, gear, unit stars, and team setup. You'll see when I make team videos. Also remember I am also hitting a wall. I am at points where other whales are 45 levels lower. So I think it's the same concept
I would have to disagree with Payne. Its more cost effective to Feed all your weak A class characters to level up your main team. Becuase its too costly to level up N ranks. It takes 36 B class to get to S+, so that u can start leveling up your A S+. In mid game, your not going to get enough B classes unless u spend money
I disagree there completely because you will get yourself insane amounts of B units once you get to inverse world and faction towers which will give you enough to hit 275-320 as f2p. I have friends and guild mates who are proof of that. It's also an idle game. It has been out for less than a month. You will get events and additional ways to get plethora of B units. There is no need to waste A units who are way harder to acquire
But actually isn't cost effective though, to just waste As. I'm guessing you're not hight enough level for the wind lighting and fire towers. How are you gonna progress in those if you're wasting them for food, gg
@warlopaka808 inverse world requires full triple S teams. Average F2P does not have enough B class to make 4 Triple S characters, plus 2 SS assists in one month. Yes, on the long run, don't waste ur Class A's. But for the time being, U need to get those SSS'S to get the ball rolling OR wait 6 months to gather enough resources as F2P
You get it all with time dude if you have already made the decision to go ftp you have already decided to invest time rather than money so don’t waste the wins you get when you pull an A by using it as food just wait for the fodder to start rolling in. Payne is spot on, inverse world and tower will have you swimming in fodder before long
Lol except I have an f2p account as well and I've played 100 of these games to know that a whales account and knowledge and testing converts to an f2p using units the same way with less power = progression. If you knew anything about my channel, you would know I do both
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Man you're putting out so much great content, love it! You just got a new follower =)
Much love big man! Ty
Very useful and worth saving for later viewing. Thanks!
My pleasure
Man I'm stuck on 22-26 😴. Got M Bison, Chun Li, Rose and Elena in my setup with fashion sakura assist on Chun Li and m Ryu on rose. What am I doing wrong?
Put Sakura on Elena keep her alive. So Chun li ult, Elena c1, rose c2, bison c3
@@PayneBlade I'll try it. I usually auto. Thanks
@@PayneBlade holy crap it worked 😆 thanks man
Np let me know how it goes
@@PayneBlade it worked. Now I'm stuck in the early levels of next chapter.. Lol my Chun Li keeps getting smacked
don't forget to subscribe, drop a like, leave a comment, hit the notification bell! i agree stop feeding your tier units!
Much love for the support my brotha
These vids are giving me Old ninja tibes Guide vibes miss the game😢
Ah man me too! That was a hell of a time
I get it but flawed logic. Works when you are spending consistent money on the. Low spenders/f2p players would hit a hard wall so quicky. As you said you need level do push content. Where would the level come from? Waiting on blues? You can't even push content to earn enough blues. And you idle rewards will just be awful . You are 6months ahead of the general player
Nah inverse world, faction towers and events give an insane amount of Blues. You'll see once you get there (a lot of f2p are already there).
Great info, thanks
Please make more video on equipments😊
Will do Tan!
@@PayneBlade cool, looking forward to it.
I’m f2p, been playing for three weeks, spend like $10… my power at 600k and im at 20-4, i’m unable to process further, still need like 2 more A+ fodder to have x4 character at SSS and break my lvl200 cap.
I wonder if equipment and car will boost my power more or lvl cap.
It may or whale mercenary friends can help too
Thanks for the video. I definitely made this mistake 😢 I know better now
My pleasure Joey!
Thx man, i was about to do it, because i wouldn't use the other units but after your vid, i will keep every A character.
👆🤝this is a smart player
Brilliant info!
I've been only using copies of a character to rank up that character. I've never fed a character to another character. So my understanding is, the "max level" is 240. In order to raise this "max level" past 240, you need to "socket" one of each character in Limit Break, which increases the "max level" by 5 levels (for each unique character), from 240 to 405? I've been adding one of each character to it as I can afford the slots, and ranking each character up using duplicates of itself (not feeding them to different characters). I hope I am understanding this system correctly.
Keep the amazing SF:D content rolling my friend!
Much love and smart gamer! Tysm!
I’m so with you on this I was pushing this a few weeks ago but i named the video so badly I don’t think anyone watched it 😂
But 100% between wasting dupes and levelling characters you like vs characters you have at a higher awakening level people are just stalling progress needlessly
100% bro. Hopefully people smarten up but to each their play style
im 9 days in. having a great time, I understand exactly what you are saying. My characters at level 180 and 160 Making better choices for week 2
Knowledge is power! Well done on making better choices
Applicable only if events don't exist, ie. Stage event and awakening event. So if you want to push for events then u can use bad A characters to get 6k+ crystals
Ya like global awakening event but even that whales didn't finish. Those events are usually a lure to get people to spend
Thanks for the video. Wish I knew this earlier. This is my first gacha and I stupidly fed my A+ Bzan early not knowing how good he was. Now I’m lowkey stuck progression wise (23-25 on challenges and 278 on Supreme Fist). On another note you’re putting out solid content covering this game. Subbed
All good Marcos, we start somewhere bro and it's a life lesson for future decisions and similar gacha games. Appreciate the support and kind words
I call cap, you can't feed bison into anyone except a next bison
Yep I mentioned it in the video about substitute that only Infernal and master can be used there or into each other. Just gotta get to that point lol
@@arielbrathwaite7747 that's cool and all, but he didn't say bison
@@mr.e432 Thanks. def said Bzan AKA Beast Zangief
I understand not doing this but for the f2p life im a very new player so I feed off yun but the food comes so slowly when your not making progress so I feel like yea there we a lv to it but with how long it will take for us to max out bison Judi gen all of them then there’s no point
I'm doing an f2p series right now on the channel with no bison, juri, rose and Gen because you are right they are going to take too long but getting food has been easy as f2p because as u unlocked faction towers and inverse world u get so much blue units. Not to mention events too. I believe in you guys to make the best decisions for your gameplay tho!
So how do I upgrade my characters without food
See my new wishlist video. May solve that issue with this. th-cam.com/video/j7LB1YNe-e4/w-d-xo.html
Damn bro didn't know this. Not too far into the game so I'm stopping as of now.
Plus I'm going through old videos to pick up any tips like this video
can you use the substitute to rank up gore magala ken though ?
cuz once his event is over, we're kinda toasted
sadly not! exclusive fighters are not included
@@PayneBlade the gore ken is a whale-exclusive, I see :/
Ty for the fast answer man, I now know I'll have to drop using my poor "S only" ken at some point u_u
Ya it is for now sadly.
This remind me of ninja tribes days man 😢
The good Ole days!
Tbh I'm about to dupe away some A rank characters because I invested everything from the last events into B rank cards, so I can complete the global awakening bison chest. Only have 1 day left though, idk if I can make it but if I can, I will dupe combat Guile, Guy and t hawk
Don't recommend it but your call bro!
@@PayneBlade Well after the maintenance was finally finished i spend all gems I got, did all the new events etc but it seems like I can't make it even if I would dupe the A ranks :/
Have to do the math later
Well a very sad update:
Even if I dupe 2 A+ Thawk, 1 A+ Combat Guile, 1 S+ Combat Guile, 1 S+ Guy, 1 S+ Poison, 1 S+ Blanka, can push through from 19-20 to 19-40, get lucky on the 20 faction tokens and get one more B. zangief to SSS+1 him... Even after aaall of that, I can only go to exactly 1390 points, which feels like a punch I the face right now...
Rip f2p
On awakening, what does return do?
Well I needed to use one A+ Combat Guile (I still have one and one A) as food to finish global awakening in time. I really cant see him at SSS in near future as I have like two other thunder units that will get there first and higher, and Iam out of food, which I have no idea when I will actually get with the amount of tokens for anything you get as F2P (needing TWO S+ units as fodder is now feeling like unachievable goal) This is really an end game I might not even reach or the game wont even be around for that long.
Have you unlocked inverse world or faction towers cause u get thousands of blue tokens and cards from there
@@PayneBlade yes I did, but even then, I made two thunder SSS units, Makoto is next, Zangief is after because of dupes. THe problem is with inverse world I could unlock one more but would have to do 32 on arctic lake which was impossible for me. All in all, I dont feel that one A+ is going to slow me down in any way really. Not even mentioning how behind are my air and fire with fodder, as I prioritised thunder all the way. For f2p one copy of bison will always be better than one A+ (I still feel blessed I have even finished the global awakening just with one A+ sacrificed, but it was really close to do it only with fodder, but would need like two, three more days of lucky blue crystal pulls, maybe even more)
Each account is different as is each player! Do you :)
Thank you for the great video. I did not understand everything when you talked about substitute function.
Like I want to get a Fei Long. I can put 2 copy of any A rank character and I will get a Fei Long ? Is there specific type requirement ? And it is the same for Master and Infernal Type besides having to put 3 ? 😊
Only works if you substitute infernal and master units and u can get any unit. So get 1 non infernal/master unit if you trade 2 infernal / master unit or get 1 infernal/master unit if you trade 3 infernal / master units. Mainly used if you have dupe infernal or master units
@@PayneBlade Oh I see. Thank you the clarification. I have not unlocked it yet and wanted to know what it did precisely.
Love your channel and will look forward to your videos. Having a whale giving insights is cool ☺️
Haha thanks Zack!
I did this for that stupid global awakening event and was feeding characters such a t hawk and yun :(
Ya that was such a trap event man.
so quick awaken is a scam button?
It has a preset program that after you get the B units to A it tries to only do specific same units for each faction. Ie always Dan for lightning, Cody for wind and Ken for fire
@@PayneBlade ok, so is safe, because this b units never use it in the monument you said, or im wrong? thanks for advice
Correct B units are never used in monument but just as food since they go max S+
You may want to have each of the B fighters to S+ for the free gems for ascending them (in Gallery)
@@Chineseman214 yea ok, but is just one time and is very little gems i guess
Thanks for the tip.
👍I got you
So far, I have 11 SSS characters, which means I will be lvl 295 but I haven't unlocked the Monument yet since all my characters are lvl 239.
1 more lvl!
@Payneblade yeah One More lvl but I need like 200,000 Break Stone, and I only have 18,000, so it's gonna take a while
They refund you all of them once you hit 240 though!
In SFD every unit is needed. I played CN 2 months i know all these. Thats why i slowly but surely making all units.
Thank you for confirming this for us! 😘oh and I love the pfp. Zola is the best from path to nowhere
Hey Payne!
I was able to get Gore Magala Ken to S with a bit luck, do you think he is usable at that rank??
Still good! But SS+ with fighting spirit he is amazing. Definitely still viable
@@PayneBlade Thanks for the advice and keep up with great content! 👌
How weird, they give you trash characters to evolve with. That seems silly to feed SSS'able characters. It's not going to speed you through content, it will just slow you down.
Yet it happens so often sadly because are not experienced in gacha or are rushing
@@PayneBlade Yea looked at other comments. That's unfortunate, hopefully people can catch this video before doing too much damage.
How long will ppl play this game?
Using b tier for food easier to rank up
Best way to do it
Wish I watched this video before I started feeding characters I didn’t use😅
Lol we all learn
With all due respect, idk how I feel about a $13k account giving progression advice.
Like what would you say for the struggle? Get more $$? 😂
I'm only being about 65% serious
Haha no cause I have an f2p account. My goal is to give advice on units and team building by testing things at capacity so you guys don't waste resources such as stones for fighting spirit. Progression lies in level, gear, unit stars, and team setup. You'll see when I make team videos. Also remember I am also hitting a wall. I am at points where other whales are 45 levels lower. So I think it's the same concept
@@PayneBlade I'm just giving you crap. Whales are an important part of the gatcha ecosystem. I saw an opportunity and I took it. No ragrets
Lol all good figured I would explain anyways
I would have to disagree with Payne. Its more cost effective to Feed all your weak A class characters to level up your main team. Becuase its too costly to level up N ranks. It takes 36 B class to get to S+, so that u can start leveling up your A S+. In mid game, your not going to get enough B classes unless u spend money
I disagree there completely because you will get yourself insane amounts of B units once you get to inverse world and faction towers which will give you enough to hit 275-320 as f2p. I have friends and guild mates who are proof of that. It's also an idle game. It has been out for less than a month. You will get events and additional ways to get plethora of B units. There is no need to waste A units who are way harder to acquire
But actually isn't cost effective though, to just waste As. I'm guessing you're not hight enough level for the wind lighting and fire towers. How are you gonna progress in those if you're wasting them for food, gg
And inverse world. Thanks for making that same point warlo
@warlopaka808 inverse world requires full triple S teams. Average F2P does not have enough B class to make 4 Triple S characters, plus 2 SS assists in one month. Yes, on the long run, don't waste ur Class A's. But for the time being, U need to get those SSS'S to get the ball rolling OR wait 6 months to gather enough resources as F2P
You get it all with time dude if you have already made the decision to go ftp you have already decided to invest time rather than money so don’t waste the wins you get when you pull an A by using it as food just wait for the fodder to start rolling in.
Payne is spot on, inverse world and tower will have you swimming in fodder before long
got to love this whales talkin about ftp. m8 talk about what u know which is whalin xD.
Lol except I have an f2p account as well and I've played 100 of these games to know that a whales account and knowledge and testing converts to an f2p using units the same way with less power = progression. If you knew anything about my channel, you would know I do both
whats he is saying is reallyyyyyyyyy important for f2p. facepalm
Enjoy wasting units lol
U are funny m8... yeah only use fodder to upg your units by nxt year u get to 240lvl.
U do realize the game has been out for 26 days lol but do you