We are afraid the answer is no. This is a balancing method without phase measurement (no speed probe). The final mass is calculated from all 3 trial weights. If you have a device which can measure amplitude and phase, then you can place the trial weight just once and then you get the result. Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/rz4gUVwwHDo/w-d-xo.html
Hello Mark. We have to admit that Balancer App for iOS had very low priority this year. We were all busy mostly with the new VA5Pro development and then of course continously improving our current devices and software. But we opened this issue internaly again and programmers should start on iOS app before end of the year. Hopefully to have good news for you soon!
dear Adash, that's really usefull app.. thank you very much.. but do you have other software that can calculate.. correction weight for limited holes on shaft, for examples like 8 holes.. u cant place accurately the correction weight on the shaft.. so the solution (best approximation) of the balancing must be within the existing holes..
Yes, we call it Components function. Usually used for balancing of indstrial fans. Means you can define number of blades, for example that 8 and final correction weight will be split into 2 nearby blades instead of angle. You can check it for example in our Virtual Unit software which is free for download: adash.com/software-vibration-analysis/virtual-unit
Our vibration analyzers are mostly used for monitoring of industrial equipment such as el. motors, fans, pumps etc. But they can measure anything what generate vibrations. Even with our simplest device you can try it on el. scooters. Vibrio M: adash.com/portable-vibration-devices/a4900-vibrio-vibration-meter
We recommend you our VA3Pro vibration analyzer which is capable of that. See here: adash.com/portable-vibration-devices/a4300-va3-vibration-analyzer Please contact our sales department regading price information: revaj@adash.cz
Hi. Excellent video and explanation, but i have a question. Rather than adding a 'new' correcting weight to the rotating object, I'd prefer to remove weight say with a die grinder. I don't anticipate that the weights in question would be anywhere near as big as in your video, but is it fair to assume that the weight would be REMOVED from the location OPPOSITE where the balancer suggests placing the correcting weight? Regards Mark in the UK
This is absolutely correct: "the weight would be REMOVED from the location OPPOSITE where the balancer suggests placing the correcting weight". But we wanted to make the video more understandable. We also wanted to keep the Balancer App as simple as possible, therefore it does not contain remove (drill) weight option. Our vibration analyzers contains this option.
Sorry, but not applicable for 2 plane balancing. But our vibration analyzers contains 1 and 2 plane balancing feature. For example VA3Pro: adash.com/portable-vibration-devices/a4300-va3-vibration-analyzer
Balancing in one plane is just a geometric task. Let's construct the initial circle (centre 0,0; radius - init. vibration), circle a (centre A, radius - vibration with weight at position A), circle b (centre B, radius - vibration with weight at position B), circle c (centre C, radius - vibration with weight at position C). The result (point Res.) is then found at the intersection of the circles a, b, c. If the circles do not have a point as intersection, but only a region of intersection, then the result is somewhere inside (where? - that's a long story). So the Res. point is the result of a geometric solution. Position of Res. point determines the resulting final mass weight and the angle of position. Here the whole picture with circles is used to check the balancing calculation.
There are a few "vibration meter" apps in the App Store. But there are very limited measurements, not applicable for machine condition monitoring nor balancing.
My phone has a accelerometer with 2,5mm/s^2 resolution, its thereby suited for bench grinders but not any other industrial machinery.
Hello sir Adash it is neccesary the weight, input the weight ,rotor mass?
Not necessary.
Hello, I have a query, is this application useful in turbocharger rotors?
Theoretically yes. But for high speed rotors would be better to perform standard balancing job with measuring amplitude phase and speed.
Thanks, that was helpful
The most simplest method of balancing
Yes. Very simple.
Thanks for the video. I have used it for balancing especially in situations where you cannot mount your photo tach.
Great Equipment! Its possible use just A one trial weigth point or should use the a/b/c Weight point?
We are afraid the answer is no. This is a balancing method without phase measurement (no speed probe). The final mass is calculated from all 3 trial weights. If you have a device which can measure amplitude and phase, then you can place the trial weight just once and then you get the result. Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/rz4gUVwwHDo/w-d-xo.html
when is going to be available for IOS?
iOS version will be hopefully ready early next year.
@@AdashCompany Hi There Has there been any update on the app availability for ios? Thanks.
Hello Mark. We have to admit that Balancer App for iOS had very low priority this year. We were all busy mostly with the new VA5Pro development and then of course continously improving our current devices and software. But we opened this issue internaly again and programmers should start on iOS app before end of the year. Hopefully to have good news for you soon!
for the final result is it possible to remove material rather than adding a counterweight
dear Adash, that's really usefull app.. thank you very much.. but do you have other software that can calculate.. correction weight for limited holes on shaft, for examples like 8 holes.. u cant place accurately the correction weight on the shaft.. so the solution (best approximation) of the balancing must be within the existing holes..
Yes, we call it Components function. Usually used for balancing of indstrial fans. Means you can define number of blades, for example that 8 and final correction weight will be split into 2 nearby blades instead of angle. You can check it for example in our Virtual Unit software which is free for download: adash.com/software-vibration-analysis/virtual-unit
Info ????
What info we can provide sir?
A high tech version of the old "4 run" balancing technique. This works really well if the unit is compliant, or loose on it's base.
Thanks
Application is free ?
What about speed we don't need it ?
This balancing method does not need info about speed.
Which hardware model do you recommend for electric scooters?
Our vibration analyzers are mostly used for monitoring of industrial equipment such as el. motors, fans, pumps etc. But they can measure anything what generate vibrations. Even with our simplest device you can try it on el. scooters. Vibrio M: adash.com/portable-vibration-devices/a4900-vibrio-vibration-meter
Is there any cheap device for measuring amplitude and phase ? Please name the name and price
We recommend you our VA3Pro vibration analyzer which is capable of that. See here: adash.com/portable-vibration-devices/a4300-va3-vibration-analyzer
Please contact our sales department regading price information: revaj@adash.cz
Hi. Excellent video and explanation, but i have a question.
Rather than adding a 'new' correcting weight to the rotating object, I'd prefer to remove weight say with a die grinder.
I don't anticipate that the weights in question would be anywhere near as big as in your video, but is it fair to assume that the weight would be REMOVED from the location OPPOSITE where the balancer suggests placing the correcting weight?
Regards Mark in the UK
This is absolutely correct: "the weight would be REMOVED from the location OPPOSITE where the balancer suggests placing the correcting weight". But we wanted to make the video more understandable. We also wanted to keep the Balancer App as simple as possible, therefore it does not contain remove (drill) weight option. Our vibration analyzers contains this option.
How can I use it for 2 plane balancing??
Sorry, but not applicable for 2 plane balancing. But our vibration analyzers contains 1 and 2 plane balancing feature. For example VA3Pro: adash.com/portable-vibration-devices/a4300-va3-vibration-analyzer
I have small doubt what is res point(3.89,1.83)?
Balancing in one plane is just a geometric task. Let's construct the initial circle (centre 0,0; radius - init. vibration), circle a (centre A, radius - vibration with weight at position A), circle b (centre B, radius - vibration with weight at position B), circle c (centre C, radius - vibration with weight at position C). The result (point Res.) is then found at the intersection of the circles a, b, c. If the circles do not have a point as intersection, but only a region of intersection, then the result is somewhere inside (where? - that's a long story).
So the Res. point is the result of a geometric solution. Position of Res. point determines the resulting final mass weight and the angle of position. Here the whole picture with circles is used to check the balancing calculation.
Can we use vibration measuring app inthe mobile
That would not be so precise sir.
No thanks, can't afford the $4k for the actual tool.
You can use Adash balancing app with any vibration meter. It does not have to be Adash.
Is the balancer program available for PC?
Unfortunately not. We guess we can make it if there will be a big demand for that from more people.
Is it possible to use an my iPhone to measure the vibration ?
There are a few "vibration meter" apps in the App Store. But there are very limited measurements, not applicable for machine condition monitoring nor balancing.
Please send the download link from play store
Here you go Sir: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adash.balancer&hl=en
Great work with the App!
Sr cuál es el valor de vibration
That is really difficult question. You would need to be more specific please.
If tow direction or x y z what can i do
Can you please specify in more detail? It is not very clear what you are asking about, thanks.
Merci beaucoup, ce information c'est tres bon.
Price ? Thanks
Please contact our sales department regarding further info. revaj@adash.cz
How does the balancer app calculates resultant mass and phase angle???
Please contact us via email. We will send you this procedure with an example. revaj@adash.cz
@@AdashCompany OK....
look up 4 run balancing
Adash app could be worked only?
What do you mean? To do balancing with our App you need some vibration meter. It does not matter which one. Is that your question?
@@AdashCompany Yes without vibration meter
@@amr.a-m8350 You need some vibration meter.
Can the same results be achieved with mm/s^2?
Yes it can. Just keep the same unit (your mm/s^2) during the whole balancing process.
@@AdashCompany as i suspected. Thank you very much for your reply ;)
There is something wrong in calculation of the final weight it must be 53g not 5.3
1.33 * 40 = 53
@@mohahm1492 Trial mass is 4.0 g, not 40. So it is correct sir :-)
3k for the tool ok back too using accelerometer and scope
can I know how I want to get the equipment as in the video
Thanks for your interests. Please contact our distributor for Malaysia regarding availability: www.intekma.net
I need to buy this device please tell me how to contact you
Contact our sales department on this email please: revaj@adash.cz