I fit the type of rider you described and enjoyed the board. I'm ignorant and like the base model Corolla. Id love to get on something better but I rode one for two days and enjoyed. Im almost 50 and haven't boarded in 15 years. This board made me feel like I was shredding. Even though I wasn't.
Im a high level beginner-low level intermediate rider and just bought a 2022 flying V with genesis step on bindings for 300 bucks. It sounds like it could be a good board to continue the progression
Angry, rode the agent today, freaking beast. Like the old one but thinner lighter and more playful. I can really carve into the front heel and toe edges for sharp turns. Ollies are so good and if I had more tricks I bet I could do more with this board.
I wish you could review my first snowboard that i got in 2003 :D Used directional plank with meter high camber and the flex pattern of a concrete wall...
I had one briefly before understood or was paying attention to shapes. Didn’t make much of an impression. Did the camber version after and was way better.
Have the 2015 model. Pretty much spot on. And now I want to upgrade that. As I don't like the lack of grip and stability. And its not as flexible as you thought. As a first proper board after a rental its fine. I fucking hate the channel system as well.
Its made for side slipping down the hill at like 20 mph tops. an expensive beginner board....why do they even make these. they should do camber underfoot and rocker on nose and tail and make it a twin with this one
Its a board to grab when you don't know what you are getting yourself into that day..It did surprisingly well on a 2 foot pow day for me at Brighton, and I clocked a 69 on superstar at Killington on ice on it.
What will be the best snowboard Burton custom camber or Flying V. As for someone is going for max 1ns a year for 10 days for winter holidays and snowboard that can do it all more in all mountain and riding with skiiers from Burton line up.
Love the honesty in your videos!! I’ve had a Flying V custom for a couple of years now and have a trip planned to breck/keystone in a couple of weeks. I’m thinking of grabbing one of the hometown hero’s before the trip. Mostly groomers and hardly any time spent in the park. As a mid intermediate guy, would this be a good transition?
I'm torn, and wanted to love this board. I need a Wide board, but ultimately got this board after coming off an injury and a couple seasons off (partially based on your older review of this board), figuring it might be less work on my knees. I'd say for the people determined to get a FV, go with the Process FV over this. You hit the nail on the head: (1) gotta charge on the back foot, (2) feels like an air hickey puck on flats and also thought "what is going on with this board", (3) if you try to ride it like the camber version the tip/ tail starts flapping around, (4) grip on ice is terrible. However, after living with it, its great for slush/ rocks, the indoor snow-park and on "power days" (ice coast). Also, just like its camber counterpart, there are times where you need to have confidence in the board, and like you said, its not a bad board it's just not a Custom, but still serves a purpose. Full disclosure this was my first reverse camber board, so I ended up buying the a Custom Camber the following season. I find the camber version to be WAY better but still bring this guy along for specific conditions. Thank you for posting this!
What snowboards from libtech and gnu would be best for me, and I want a camber based profile. I rip park laps with larger jumps (60ft) while still trying to jib around, I also love to hammer like 3 or 4 groomer runs. I'm 5'6 130lbs, preferably stiffer(for me/my size)
What's the best All-Mountain-Freestyle for someone like me who's new to snowboarding. I've got a hang of all the basics and started practicing in the park, any suggestions for a board that will perform in the park but won't hinder progress on the rest of the mountain?
I have a forum destroyer double dog from like 2014 with the same profile- I used to love this board until I understood lol- When I got the (last season) yes greats, and have been riding that for 1.5 seasons- yesterday was a POW day, so I was like hm- let’s take the destroyer out for a change- uhh NO! Two runs and I was trudging back to get the greats- Flying V sucks lol- Regular camber just has such a nice platform and strong locked-in feel.. Now I want a directional, camber pow board, and was eying up the yes hybrid-what do you think?... But I’m only 5’ 6” @ 135lbs And they only offer a 157.. Will that be too much board for me? Ty
Double Dog is less like Flying v and more like a C2 but still. I'd say that the Hybrid isn't going to work for you but the Y instead might fit the bill.
Yeah... doubledog are way better than flying V ! Still own a doubledog and really like it for what it is... by no mean the precision of a camber board but still way better than a flying v
@@AngrySnowboarder would you do a review of it someday? I'm interested in your opinion. I'm still thinking between mercury and mountain twin from Jones. All mountain freestyle focus.
Well that sounds just like I imagined it would, I have only ever owned positive camber boards so this was interesting to me. I wonder why so many of Burton's pro slopestyle guys ride this board or the flying V process?
Joel Davis because it’s a good board. He’s review is completely false. I own 11 active boards in my quiver. Everything from the custom X to The Nug. The Flying V custom is my go to. It does everything well. I can’t take his reviews seriously after this gem.
Why would you review the Camber Flying V? Nobody wants to ride this board. Let's see a review of the Custom Camber, Skeleton Key or One Hitter. Boards people actually ride.
@@AngrySnowboarder fair enough. Then consider this a request for a review of the One Hitter. That's the most interesting board in the Burton line this year imo.
I own the first model, that was introduced in 2011 and I still ride it. I owned 2 cambered customs before that, but like the Flying V more for my riding style. In 2021 I will probably replace my custom, as well as replace the cartelEST/Ruler combo for Step on. It will demo both the Cambered and Flying V Custom, but I guess it will be the Flying V again.
Well, I'm a low intermediate dork and the Flying V is the only board I've ever owned. I'm ready to trade it in though because I'd like to carve better and have little more pop. So, hey, if I want to trade the old Corolla for, say, something a little more sporty, what Should I get? Cheers!
@@AngrySnowboarder SWEET! There's a good bit of comfort in the knowledge that I pretty much can't go wrong... Greetings from Tahoe City, thanks and keep up the good stuff!
I was that guy when I rented a wide for a heli day. I liked how easy it was to ride. Looked for an equivalent board to buy and my inexperienced eye decided a wide t rice pro looked close enough. That one wasnt so easy.
I was thinking about buying a T. Rice pro. Want something playful to cruise around the mountain. 50 years old. I like rocker. Snowboarding 20 years. Would you recommend that board? Also thinking about the Burton custom x flying v, but don't want something too stiff..I'm going to go with the flying v if I do.
@@MRXCHRISS hey yea. I rode the t rice for 2 seasons. It was ok. Bought another in 2019 and also a Capita mercury to compare. Liked the Mercury better so sold the T rice. I was never really happy with the way I just couldn't get the edge to bite and lock in a carve. Thpught it was me until I got on the Merc. Was always thinking it was either the hybrid or the magna traction. I have a Capita Outerspace Living 157w now and love it.
@@MRXCHRISS i rented a custom flying V for heli day once when I was still very new to snowboarding. My views probably wouldn't be very helpful to you. Avran is on point with what he says about boards /bindibgs I have ridden or owned. I trust his reviews.
Do not buy it!!! I rode it for two years than bought the Custom. One day I wanted to go into the powder and thought OK, for powder it should be better since it is a hybrid rocker... The first slope I thought over night I forgot how to ride. it is just terrible once you accustom to a good board.
“for the ‘ten days a year’ rider who’s high level beginner or a low intermediate who just want to do wheelies down the slope without actually progressing and say they own a burton custom” … … are you spying on me or something?
@@AngrySnowboarder i’m 35, been on and off the board for years, live 2.5 h away from the closest sky resort. kinda given up on progressing, i wouldn’t mind a deck that kinda floats in powder, kinda carves and gives me cheap butters. too bad the pricetag is not cheap onthis thing. plus, i only want the easy butters if they are fun, i don’t care about looking cool. so my only concern is about what you said about not feeling engaged in presses
review a little bit more muted and m'eh than last year's... shittier review weather? I've picked one up in the discount at my LBS, guessing they'll all need us spending now if we can. Plan is to compliment my Custom camber (same size) but for lazier days or when out riding with wife and kids, and for using indoor at the UK snow centres over the summer - if they open again!!! cheers again, Jimbo
@@AngrySnowboarder - it's 17/18 board in the video, this is the 19/20 board in this one.... any change? Sorry, arguing shouldn't be interpreted as anger here, it's just lockdown boredom ;-) Thanks for the content of late, really appreciated.
Why did your review of this board change so much from the one you did 3 years ago? Did the board change that much, or were you just having a bad day when you recorded this updated one? th-cam.com/video/xEOA0ZIhHXM/w-d-xo.html
So dramatic difference between all flying v tests year to year. It looks like burton subscription was expiring with bad reviews and was updated when they become better. Have been using this one (20/21) model with Custom X (19/20) - flying V gives noobs and intermediate a chance to get better without injuries and falls, feel speed and when you need more grip, start to carve etc. with less effort. Bad in ice and need more 3ffort on firm snow and speeds higher than 60 km/h.
Hey angry snowboarder, just wondering if you still feel like the flight attendant is a very average/overrated board, even for the new 2020 version? It does seem like the 2020 is very similar to the previous version...
@@AngrySnowboarder I see I see, so you'd prefer something like the Hometown Hero over the FA for carving? Also what are your thoughts on last year's Speed Date? Thx
I fit the type of rider you described and enjoyed the board. I'm ignorant and like the base model Corolla. Id love to get on something better but I rode one for two days and enjoyed. Im almost 50 and haven't boarded in 15 years. This board made me feel like I was shredding. Even though I wasn't.
Im a high level beginner-low level intermediate rider and just bought a 2022 flying V with genesis step on bindings for 300 bucks. It sounds like it could be a good board to continue the progression
Finally!!! Honest review! I am getting custom camber wide
Angry, rode the agent today, freaking beast. Like the old one but thinner lighter and more playful. I can really carve into the front heel and toe edges for sharp turns. Ollies are so good and if I had more tricks I bet I could do more with this board.
I have one and I fully agree with your comments. Don't buy one unless all you do is butter. It is an anti ollie machine as well.
I wish you could review my first snowboard that i got in 2003 :D Used directional plank with meter high camber and the flex pattern of a concrete wall...
An honest review. Thank you.
I had one briefly before understood or was paying attention to shapes. Didn’t make much of an impression. Did the camber version after and was way better.
Have the 2015 model. Pretty much spot on. And now I want to upgrade that. As I don't like the lack of grip and stability. And its not as flexible as you thought. As a first proper board after a rental its fine. I fucking hate the channel system as well.
A wheelie board with training wheels!
I was exactly that guy 5-6 years ago when i bought it. Haven’t ridden it in 3 years and probably never will again.
LMAOOOOO. "It's just a snowboard, it did snowboard things. It's really a board for someone who wants to say they own a Burton Custom." I'm dead!
Its made for side slipping down the hill at like 20 mph tops. an expensive beginner board....why do they even make these. they should do camber underfoot and rocker on nose and tail and make it a twin with this one
can you do a review on the custom camber?
Its a board to grab when you don't know what you are getting yourself into that day..It did surprisingly well on a 2 foot pow day for me at Brighton, and I clocked a 69 on superstar at Killington on ice on it.
Jonathan Kosyjana camber or Flying V?
@@whoisthe1412 Camber
What will be the best snowboard Burton custom camber or Flying V. As for someone is going for max 1ns a year for 10 days for winter holidays and snowboard that can do it all more in all mountain and riding with skiiers from Burton line up.
Camber.
@@AngrySnowboarder thanks im just now thinking of Burton custom camber or Burton process camber.
Love the honesty in your videos!! I’ve had a Flying V custom for a couple of years now and have a trip planned to breck/keystone in a couple of weeks. I’m thinking of grabbing one of the hometown hero’s before the trip. Mostly groomers and hardly any time spent in the park. As a mid intermediate guy, would this be a good transition?
There's going to be a learning curve with it but it's a better choice for sure.
I'm torn, and wanted to love this board. I need a Wide board, but ultimately got this board after coming off an injury and a couple seasons off (partially based on your older review of this board), figuring it might be less work on my knees. I'd say for the people determined to get a FV, go with the Process FV over this.
You hit the nail on the head: (1) gotta charge on the back foot, (2) feels like an air hickey puck on flats and also thought "what is going on with this board", (3) if you try to ride it like the camber version the tip/ tail starts flapping around, (4) grip on ice is terrible.
However, after living with it, its great for slush/ rocks, the indoor snow-park and on "power days" (ice coast). Also, just like its camber counterpart, there are times where you need to have confidence in the board, and like you said, its not a bad board it's just not a Custom, but still serves a purpose.
Full disclosure this was my first reverse camber board, so I ended up buying the a Custom Camber the following season. I find the camber version to be WAY better but still bring this guy along for specific conditions.
Thank you for posting this!
What snowboards from libtech and gnu would be best for me, and I want a camber based profile. I rip park laps with larger jumps (60ft) while still trying to jib around, I also love to hammer like 3 or 4 groomer runs. I'm 5'6 130lbs, preferably stiffer(for me/my size)
So anything C3 profile. Probably any of the knife series so Box Knife, Hot Knife, Ejack Knife.
What's the best All-Mountain-Freestyle for someone like me who's new to snowboarding. I've got a hang of all the basics and started practicing in the park, any suggestions for a board that will perform in the park but won't hinder progress on the rest of the mountain?
K2 Raygun Pop, Rome Warden, Yes Basic.
"Its a base model Toyota Corolla....a power seat NOT POWER SEATS just a power seat" 🤣
How do you think the flying v shape compares with the nitro gullwing shape? Do you rate either?
The Gullwing has way more grip to it actually having fucking camber sections.
@@AngrySnowboarder haha ok got ya, stay away from the flying v!
I have a forum destroyer double dog from like 2014 with the same profile-
I used to love this board until I understood lol-
When I got the (last season) yes greats, and have been riding that for 1.5 seasons- yesterday was a POW day, so I was like hm- let’s take the destroyer out for a change- uhh NO!
Two runs and I was trudging back to get the greats- Flying V sucks lol-
Regular camber just has such a nice platform and strong locked-in feel..
Now I want a directional, camber pow board, and was eying up the yes hybrid-what do you think?...
But I’m only 5’ 6” @ 135lbs
And they only offer a 157..
Will that be too much board for me?
Ty
Double Dog is less like Flying v and more like a C2 but still. I'd say that the Hybrid isn't going to work for you but the Y instead might fit the bill.
Yeah... doubledog are way better than flying V ! Still own a doubledog and really like it for what it is... by no mean the precision of a camber board but still way better than a flying v
Angry Snowboarder
Ty for the advice I’ll check it out 👍
How do you like the custom camber version?
It's a snowboard.
@@AngrySnowboarder would you do a review of it someday? I'm interested in your opinion. I'm still thinking between mercury and mountain twin from Jones. All mountain freestyle focus.
How is it for beginner?
Fine.
Did you get a chance to ride the new custom FV? Same thoughts?
Fuck Flying V as a camber profile.
The opposite of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Well that sounds just like I imagined it would, I have only ever owned positive camber boards so this was interesting to me. I wonder why so many of Burton's pro slopestyle guys ride this board or the flying V process?
Joel Davis because it’s a good board. He’s review is completely false. I own 11 active boards in my quiver. Everything from the custom X to
The Nug. The Flying V custom is my go to. It does everything well. I can’t take his reviews seriously after this gem.
I doubt any pros are riding flying v
They maybe riding a board disguised as one. Especially on big stuff camber is tge way
George Andrew so all 11 burton?
@@drsnowboard I'm a whore, what can I say?! Yes.
Why would you review the Camber Flying V? Nobody wants to ride this board. Let's see a review of the Custom Camber, Skeleton Key or One Hitter. Boards people actually ride.
exactly, custom camber 2020 would be cool
he reviewed the skeleton key a couple years ago, but that was when it was in the family tree line... i suspect its slightly worse now
Well Jeff this was one that was requested more than the regular Custom so...
@@AngrySnowboarder fair enough. Then consider this a request for a review of the One Hitter. That's the most interesting board in the Burton line this year imo.
I own the first model, that was introduced in 2011 and I still ride it. I owned 2 cambered customs before that, but like the Flying V more for my riding style.
In 2021 I will probably replace my custom, as well as replace the cartelEST/Ruler combo for Step on. It will demo both the Cambered and Flying V Custom, but I guess it will be the Flying V again.
How would this board pair with the union falcor bindings?
It wouldn't be a good match.
Well, I'm a low intermediate dork and the Flying V is the only board I've ever owned. I'm ready to trade it in though because I'd like to carve better and have little more pop. So, hey, if I want to trade the old Corolla for, say, something a little more sporty, what Should I get?
Cheers!
Literally anything from any other brand.
@@AngrySnowboarder SWEET! There's a good bit of comfort in the knowledge that I pretty much can't go wrong... Greetings from Tahoe City, thanks and keep up the good stuff!
What brand is the white helmet Kevin wears?
I was that guy when I rented a wide for a heli day. I liked how easy it was to ride. Looked for an equivalent board to buy and my inexperienced eye decided a wide t rice pro looked close enough. That one wasnt so easy.
I was thinking about buying a T. Rice pro. Want something playful to cruise around the mountain. 50 years old. I like rocker. Snowboarding 20 years. Would you recommend that board? Also thinking about the Burton custom x flying v, but don't want something too stiff..I'm going to go with the flying v if I do.
@@MRXCHRISS hey yea. I rode the t rice for 2 seasons. It was ok. Bought another in 2019 and also a Capita mercury to compare. Liked the Mercury better so sold the T rice. I was never really happy with the way I just couldn't get the edge to bite and lock in a carve. Thpught it was me until I got on the Merc. Was always thinking it was either the hybrid or the magna traction. I have a Capita Outerspace Living 157w now and love it.
@@johnsutcliffe3209 Thanks for all that info. How would you rate the Burton Custom Flying V out of all the boards you have tried?
@@MRXCHRISS i rented a custom flying V for heli day once when I was still very new to snowboarding. My views probably wouldn't be very helpful to you. Avran is on point with what he says about boards /bindibgs I have ridden or owned. I trust his reviews.
Rome National or DOA? Thanks!
I like just roaming around, hitting natural features, and spend a little bit of time hitting jumps in the park.
Either.
Can you review the Korua Shapes Dart?
Yup, i got one of them in 2012/13, even as a noob, i still didn't like it, and knew it was a lemon.
Next idea for top5. Hey People don't like burton ?
he hates it
Reminds me of my 06 Nissan Altima with power SEAT (singular).
rip flying v
I stopped by Underground but they told me they are not selling Burton anymore
That's news to me.
You seem to like the lib tech trice more, these two board have the same camber profile, no ? Why the lib tech is better in your opinion ?
They have 2 different camber profiles. C2 is no where near Flying V.
@@AngrySnowboarder not to mention different flex patterns, sidecuts, and everything else that makes a snowboard.
Trice is way more stable, and just overall a better board
Can take it anywhere
Do not buy it!!!
I rode it for two years than bought the Custom.
One day I wanted to go into the powder and thought OK, for powder it should be better since it is a hybrid rocker...
The first slope I thought over night I forgot how to ride. it is just terrible once you accustom to a good board.
should I get the Flying V Custom or the Camber Custom? Comments away.
Buy 10 of each.
Angry Snowboarder is that enough?
Better buy 10 of each size for each model.
Doing wheelies all over shot,. Lol 😅. I had one and sold it
Educational information
“for the ‘ten days a year’ rider who’s high level beginner or a low intermediate who just want to do wheelies down the slope without actually progressing and say they own a burton custom”
…
…
are you spying on me or something?
Are you not trying to snowboard?
@@AngrySnowboarder i’m 35, been on and off the board for years, live 2.5 h away from the closest sky resort. kinda given up on progressing, i wouldn’t mind a deck that kinda floats in powder, kinda carves and gives me cheap butters. too bad the pricetag is not cheap onthis thing.
plus, i only want the easy butters if they are fun, i don’t care about looking cool. so my only concern is about what you said about not feeling engaged in presses
Boards a turd.
review a little bit more muted and m'eh than last year's... shittier review weather?
I've picked one up in the discount at my LBS, guessing they'll all need us spending now if we can. Plan is to compliment my Custom camber (same size) but for lazier days or when out riding with wife and kids, and for using indoor at the UK snow centres over the summer - if they open again!!!
cheers again, Jimbo
There was no review last year.
@@AngrySnowboarder th-cam.com/video/xEOA0ZIhHXM/w-d-xo.html
James Brace that’s two years ago.
@@AngrySnowboarder - it's 17/18 board in the video, this is the 19/20 board in this one.... any change?
Sorry, arguing shouldn't be interpreted as anger here, it's just lockdown boredom ;-)
Thanks for the content of late, really appreciated.
Why did your review of this board change so much from the one you did 3 years ago? Did the board change that much, or were you just having a bad day when you recorded this updated one?
th-cam.com/video/xEOA0ZIhHXM/w-d-xo.html
While it might be hard to believe boards do change drastically from time to time.
@@AngrySnowboarder gotcha. Thanks
@Angry Snowboarder so why you say in the previous comment that model 20/21 is not worth to test or even look on it?
10 day, if that.
Dude, can you be a little more obvious about HATING Burton? Lol
Hating Burton or hating this product?
whens the de-construction of these shit amazon goggles i cant wait for you to rip them apart 😅😂🤣🤬🏂
Soonish.
So dramatic difference between all flying v tests year to year. It looks like burton subscription was expiring with bad reviews and was updated when they become better.
Have been using this one (20/21) model with Custom X (19/20) - flying V gives noobs and intermediate a chance to get better without injuries and falls, feel speed and when you need more grip, start to carve etc. with less effort. Bad in ice and need more 3ffort on firm snow and speeds higher than 60 km/h.
So you're the expert over here?
not a fan of flying v at all, its cheating in my opinion. You can tell when someone is on of these boards, and your right about the 10 day rider lol.
Nate Gans Can you elaborate on “cheating”? What does that mean. 🤘🏼
@@JohnPArgueta no i dont care to elaborate on it. Thats all i have to say 😆
Today we are going to review garbage just straight waste of money garbage
it sucks.
Hey angry snowboarder, just wondering if you still feel like the flight attendant is a very average/overrated board, even for the new 2020 version? It does seem like the 2020 is very similar to the previous version...
2020 version is the same. Boards over rated.
@@AngrySnowboarder Is there a Burton board you feel is underrated for its carving ability? I feel like the Custom Camber is not bad
@@paulkim5699 Custom Camber is OK, Custom X is better. A lot of the stuff in the family tree line can rip a carve better.
@@AngrySnowboarder I see I see, so you'd prefer something like the Hometown Hero over the FA for carving? Also what are your thoughts on last year's Speed Date? Thx
Is this ok for beginner