Agreed. Other teams should actually put up an intelligent fight against City instead of rolling over to them by playing naive football. Arsenal can’t do everything by themselves to win the league.
▪︎City Vs Arsenal preview ▪︎If Arsenal lose Title Race over ▪︎City cut Arsenal defense like butter ▪︎PL FA-VAR Arsenal Dark Arts ▪︎PL allow Arsenal 2 illigal goals ▪︎To stop City ending Title Race?😂
Where did Oliver get the extra extra minute from ? 7min minimum added on but the ball went out of play for a total of 9.5 seconds throughout the 7 minutes.
@kar4750 Faking injury my a$$ when had to be substituted. It was Timber injury for 1mnt 30 second. Supposed to end in 98mnt 30sec if u want to be exact if city didn't score.
This media witchunt is insane. Arsenal are the Villians & City are the good guys even though city won 4 titles in a row & Arsenal trying to challenge with young players. Never seen anything like it in my life 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Every single year Arsenal have been near the top of the league there has been some rule change brought in to counter any strategy that gives us any advantage. Refs and FA can Eff off!
▪︎Arsenal Dark Arts obvious ▪︎Trossard dives on Silva from Behind ▪︎Premeditatedly targeting players to injure ▪︎Arteta tactics to not get Sacked ▪︎For buying 100M+ Rice,going Trophyless?😂
Can anyone remind me how many times City, going into the last 10 to 15 minutes of games with narrow leads start to employ the "Dark Arts" at it's finest (11 v 11). Weather it's Ederson taking ages for goal kicks, Haaland and co hitting the corner flag area slowing down the game by winning multiple corners or City team as a whole carrying out rotational fouls?
All I am going to do is leave Gundogans comments below 👇 👇 👇 “It was a very emotional game between the players, the fans. Obviously, it’s a tough opponent and a tough game to play. They made it tough for us and tried everything to get something out of here. “We have to give them credit for the way they defended. We could have done better in the second half - find better solutions and be a bit more patient, we were lacking that.“After the red card, they defended around the box, which is normal,” said Gundogan. “They did it well and they were aggressive. It was tough to attack them and find solutions.”
Arsenal was brilliant in that second half.. when I saw the red card, I was like wtf. Then I realized it was for kicking the ball away. i agreed it was a red. The time has nothing to do with it. If I asked you what's 7+2, it won't take a second for you to know the answer. Trossard cost Arsenal 2 points.
Hypocrisy is to max ...no rule book to how teams should play high-line everyone loves .. low block exposes teams weakness ..a team with any football intelligence down to ten men captain injured at the treble winning team ..backyard 2-1 lead would go into defence mode .modern football need plan bcd..we almost pulled it off admire Arsenal . Or bow to city let them dictate your play get out of here ..Stand up chest out dont fear City🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 guys.Surely no one want City winning for decades ..
Bro, since when do they ever move on from talking about Arsenal? only time they move on, is when we win but when we don't it gets talked about for months, even years 😂
There are really a lot of idiots out there always on the lookout to dig at flaws. Arsenal was sensational good at the Ethiad even without the likes of Martin Odagaard and Mikel Merino. The absence of such ceative players in midfield has certainly reduced their threat in the final third. Despite this deficiency in midfield, we were still able to come from behind after conceding the Erling Haarland opener. If not for the sending off of Leandro Trossard, we should have collected all 3 points at the Ethiad. This per se indicated that we existingly do possess a very competent squad to challenge Manchester City for the EPL title. Mikel Arteta and Edu have decided to trim the senior squad this summer by offloading their London Colney prodigies in the likes of Reiss Nelson, Eddie Nketiah and Emile Simth Rowe. Mikel has always wanted 22 senior players in their squad to attain the idealism of obtaining at least 2 top players in every position. This squad revamp process, in my opinion, is not completed. We still lack numbers and depth in midfield and at the same time do have a surplus in requirement in Kieran Tierney in the left back position. In my humble opinion, we should at least bring in 2 more players and offload Kieran Tierney.
Spot on mate but we can't really offload Tierney when he spends 90% of the season on the treatment table. Personally woulda kept Smith Rowe but if you let him go then you must replace him. Surely Edu and Arteta can see we had no natural replacement for odegaard. I know we got Nwaneri but you never wanna put a 17 yr old in that position..
The letter of the law for kicking the ball away is only created for Arsenal. It’s like having a one way road and allowing all cars to break the law except for certain individuals.
When Manchester United had Fergie time in all the games they were Losing, I never heard an uproar or the term Dark Arts 🎭 please …… the Lot of them are Hypocrites…..
I think everyone knows it bout corruption and not main character syndrome or ref error. Its not even ref bias it is pure and simple corruption but we dont want to entertain the thought as it ruins what we hold dear😢
I have started to hate Arsenal more than any club, only because of their fans. Now even their football deserves no praise. Being 2nd is not a trophy. The fans were dead shut for 2 decades, and now you cant shut them off. Insufferable.
The difference between Jamie, Cundy, and Goldstein is that Jamie does not want Arsenal to win a single match but talks football and gives credit to whom it should go to but you see those two? particularly Cundy, He is childish and forgets he is there to talk about football on a neutral point. Same with Goldstein.
This stat is skewed. Arsenal have played 2 halves with 10 men that’s a whole game i.e., 20% of games this season…and in both games they were ahead hence trying to protect the ball. Look at the stats for passes Arsenal are in relegation zone for number of passes made this season
Why dont the FA let us hear what the refs are saying when they talk to the players. Example Rugby and I noticed the American football ( soccer ) league does it and the NFL. Atleast to hear the reasoning on why a player is given a card etc.
Don't cuss two great managers of the game for their style of play if you're going to praise arteta for doing the same! I swear the love fest you gooners have for that manager is cringe and weird
It's cunts like you that they talking abuh, you more concerned abuh your hateful bias rather than being a rational football fan who appreciates football and is objective, grow a pair mate
I love Harry but beating Man City is one thing but if you’re Arsenal or Liverpool or any team who can challenge them you can’t beat the PGMOL (who are directly paid by Man City owners 10 times their normal wage per game to referee in Saudi). It is what it is 💯 This is a farmers league until they are found guilty…
Common sense will teach when you away at tough opponents ...leave with something . Cheats115 thought we would open so they could smash , proper clowns 😂😂😂 Villa Spurs and Cheats115 = 7 points
Arsenal aren’t the problem 😂 it’s just people getting annoyed that Arsenal finally have a bit of a backbone and steel to them. Every team does the exact same thing and teams in the bottom half of the table do it basically every away game they play with 11 men.
Arsenal should leave the premier league and join a European super league given the way they are being treated. City can do no wrong whatever Arsenal do is castigated
The best thing to happen to Arsenal is to go undefeated throughout the whole season and, in the end, not to win the premier league 😂😂 What are the odds for that to happen.
I'm arsenal fan. In my opinion Arsenal will not going to win the premier League this season. So do with every other tournament. Another trophyless season. Arsenal have no pure quality striker. Simple as that 😂
The letter of the law for kicking the ball away is only created for Arsenal. It’s like having a one way road and allowing all cars to break the law except for certain individuals.
I have started to hate Arsenal more than any club, only because of their fans. Now even their football deserves no praise. Being 2nd is not a trophy. The fans were dead shut for 2 decades, and now you cant shut them off. Insufferable.
Most sane discussion i have heard anywhere in a while. Let haters hate, we keep marching COYG
Found a new level of respect for the Spurs lad
Agreed. Other teams should actually put up an intelligent fight against City instead of rolling over to them by playing naive football. Arsenal can’t do everything by themselves to win the league.
Why don't you do it yourself huh? Parking the bus is not rolling up to City
They rolling up and parking the buss at etihad.
▪︎City Vs Arsenal preview
▪︎If Arsenal lose Title Race over
▪︎City cut Arsenal defense like butter
▪︎PL FA-VAR Arsenal Dark Arts
▪︎PL allow Arsenal 2 illigal goals
▪︎To stop City ending Title Race?😂
In the 2nd half the ball was in play for 35 minutes the reported highest amount all year.. What are you supposed to do.
that's because City had 90% possession
@@scenicstreetschanges nothing the point is it was in play the most in any half this season yet the added time was the highest…. Complete fix!
Oh city didn’t win, go cry more
The other 10 were wasted by Arsenal players faking injuries @@mikeyM614
Yeah, so where did all the extra time come from?
Where did Oliver get the extra extra minute from ? 7min minimum added on but the ball went out of play for a total of 9.5 seconds throughout the 7 minutes.
Forgetting all the time wasting during then ? Typical deluded gooner 🤦
Time spent by Assna players faking injury and rolling over got added
@@kar4750 not sure if that made up for the time .
@kar4750 Faking injury my a$$ when had to be substituted. It was Timber injury for 1mnt 30 second. Supposed to end in 98mnt 30sec if u want to be exact if city didn't score.
@@Nostradanus86Should have have been at least 10min added time for faking injuries
This media witchunt is insane. Arsenal are the Villians & City are the good guys even though city won 4 titles in a row & Arsenal trying to challenge with young players. Never seen anything like it in my life 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Victims" not villians😂.....
Totally agree!
I think they’re all on the Man City payroll, not just the referees!
@TotalllFootball u couldn't beat 10men for 45mins stop piping up
Nah arsenal fans online are just so insufferable we'd rather city dominate than you lot get anything tbh.
@@thelegendthatischelskeep su**ing them off 😊
Even jamie o hara gets it how we played in the 2nd half 😂
Wow! This was the most level headed conversation I have heard all week
Every single year Arsenal have been near the top of the league there has been some rule change brought in to counter any strategy that gives us any advantage.
Refs and FA can Eff off!
▪︎Arsenal Dark Arts obvious
▪︎Trossard dives on Silva from Behind
▪︎Premeditatedly targeting players to injure
▪︎Arteta tactics to not get Sacked
▪︎For buying 100M+ Rice,going Trophyless?😂
Well done Harry! Best articulation of the Arsenal frustrations i've seen so far and delivered without emotion!
Not an arsenal fan, but this guy made a large amount of very good points.
You mean you are an arsenal fan and love a good whinge
@@dilksjoel nope, Liverpool. Well done.
@@dilksjoelyou mean your a rival and love a good dig
Can anyone remind me how many times City, going into the last 10 to 15 minutes of games with narrow leads start to employ the "Dark Arts" at it's finest (11 v 11). Weather it's Ederson taking ages for goal kicks, Haaland and co hitting the corner flag area slowing down the game by winning multiple corners or City team as a whole carrying out rotational fouls?
Very good conversation. Arsenal played to their strengths and tried to protect a 2/1 lead . Cant understand the negativity. Horses for courses .
Fair play to Jamie for being fair
Jamie speaking sense, 👏👏👏
Jamie O’Hara is that really you? Respect 🤝
Like this Harry bloke, always speaks well
The real Dark Art is for those being charged with 150 offences.
Some fans are on another planet
You mean Arsenal? Mate the club has become vile man. The arrogance and they’ve won nothing 😂
I remember when Chelsea parked the bus against Barcelona with Mourinho and they were praised.
The agenda against Arsenal is real
Respect for Jamie O Hara for choosing conscience over rivalry.
All I am going to do is leave Gundogans comments below 👇 👇 👇
“It was a very emotional game between the players, the fans. Obviously, it’s a tough opponent and a tough game to play. They made it tough for us and tried everything to get something out of here.
“We have to give them credit for the way they defended. We could have done better in the second half - find better solutions and be a bit more patient, we were lacking that.“After the red card, they defended around the box, which is normal,” said Gundogan. “They did it well and they were aggressive. It was tough to attack them and find solutions.”
Arsenal was brilliant in that second half.. when I saw the red card, I was like wtf. Then I realized it was for kicking the ball away. i agreed it was a red. The time has nothing to do with it. If I asked you what's 7+2, it won't take a second for you to know the answer. Trossard cost Arsenal 2 points.
Hypocrisy is to max ...no rule book to how teams should play high-line everyone loves .. low block exposes teams weakness ..a team with any football intelligence down to ten men captain injured at the treble winning team ..backyard 2-1 lead would go into defence mode .modern football need plan bcd..we almost pulled it off admire Arsenal . Or bow to city let them dictate your play get out of here ..Stand up chest out dont fear City🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
guys.Surely no one want City winning for decades ..
Do you know what? That must be the very first time i've seen players sitting on the ground with an injury in order to waste time. /s.
I'm an arsenal fan. Why we still talking about this. Its done, let's move on.
Media hate for arsenal means views and interactions unfortunately
Arsenal fans whinge often and this means interactions and views
Bro, since when do they ever move on from talking about Arsenal? only time they move on, is when we win but when we don't it gets talked about for months, even years 😂
Football fans are getting so sensitive. They'll be eating vegan and using moisturiser next.
You do what you got to do to get the point(s), who cares what anyone says
There are really a lot of idiots out there always on the lookout to dig at flaws. Arsenal was sensational good at the Ethiad even without the likes of Martin Odagaard and Mikel Merino. The absence of such ceative players in midfield has certainly reduced their threat in the final third. Despite this deficiency in midfield, we were still able to come from behind after conceding the Erling Haarland opener. If not for the sending off of Leandro Trossard, we should have collected all 3 points at the Ethiad. This per se indicated that we existingly do possess a very competent squad to challenge Manchester City for the EPL title. Mikel Arteta and Edu have decided to trim the senior squad this summer by offloading their London Colney prodigies in the likes of Reiss Nelson, Eddie Nketiah and Emile Simth Rowe. Mikel has always wanted 22 senior players in their squad to attain the idealism of obtaining at least 2 top players in every position. This squad revamp process, in my opinion, is not completed. We still lack numbers and depth in midfield and at the same time do have a surplus in requirement in Kieran Tierney in the left back position. In my humble opinion, we should at least bring in 2 more players and offload Kieran Tierney.
Spot on mate but we can't really offload Tierney when he spends 90% of the season on the treatment table. Personally woulda kept Smith Rowe but if you let him go then you must replace him. Surely Edu and Arteta can see we had no natural replacement for odegaard. I know we got Nwaneri but you never wanna put a 17 yr old in that position..
Double standards
The letter of the law for kicking the ball away is only created for Arsenal. It’s like having a one way road and allowing all cars to break the law except for certain individuals.
When Manchester United had Fergie time in all the games they were Losing, I never heard an uproar or the term Dark Arts 🎭 please …… the Lot of them are Hypocrites…..
I think everyone knows it bout corruption and not main character syndrome or ref error. Its not even ref bias it is pure and simple corruption but we dont want to entertain the thought as it ruins what we hold dear😢
Even if we won the same people slagging us off would find another reason to do it as well
I have started to hate Arsenal more than any club, only because of their fans. Now even their football deserves no praise.
Being 2nd is not a trophy.
The fans were dead shut for 2 decades, and now you cant shut them off. Insufferable.
Speaks so much sense, let’s move on now and leave city to cry, let’s come back and show me the arsenal stats after the next 5 league games
Only Arsenal fans will cry at the end of the season for bottling the league again 😂
First time I've heard Jamie speak honestly
More surprised by pennant he's more of a clown than jamie and not even a spurs fan but speaking sense here
The difference between Jamie, Cundy, and Goldstein is that Jamie does not want Arsenal to win a single match but talks football and gives credit to whom it should go to but you see those two? particularly Cundy, He is childish and forgets he is there to talk about football on a neutral point. Same with Goldstein.
This stat is skewed. Arsenal have played 2 halves with 10 men that’s a whole game i.e., 20% of games this season…and in both games they were ahead hence trying to protect the ball. Look at the stats for passes Arsenal are in relegation zone for number of passes made this season
Dark Arts? Yes please lets get all our players fully trained on Dark Arts- dont care as long as we win trophies! COYG
Why dont the FA let us hear what the refs are saying when they talk to the players. Example Rugby and I noticed the American football ( soccer ) league does it and the NFL. Atleast to hear the reasoning on why a player is given a card etc.
For once everyone on the panel is spitting sense hallelujah.. only if we could have some more unbiased opinions from talksport
Harry Symeou 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 finally common sense
This is the same guy who said he'd rather take Arteta over Mourinho and Conte because of the style of football.
So? What’s your point?
Yes he did, But we can't play same way with 10players
Arteta doesn't play like Mourinho and Conte every week. So your point is redundant, jog on...
Scored a club record 91 goals last year you fucktard
Don't cuss two great managers of the game for their style of play if you're going to praise arteta for doing the same! I swear the love fest you gooners have for that manager is cringe and weird
The time gets put on by the ref at the end anyway ffs.
That confirms it then - Asssna are going trophyless again
Ok sir
It's cunts like you that they talking abuh, you more concerned abuh your hateful bias rather than being a rational football fan who appreciates football and is objective, grow a pair mate
Arsenal mi advice is stay off media don't listen to these 🤡 they want you to fall not succeed so focus on your selves
I love Harry but beating Man City is one thing but if you’re Arsenal or Liverpool or any team who can challenge them you can’t beat the PGMOL (who are directly paid by Man City owners 10 times their normal wage per game to referee in Saudi).
It is what it is 💯
This is a farmers league until they are found guilty…
Saudi? 😂😂😂😂😂
Nonsense. If arsenal would've won NOBODY would give praise
Love Jamie but some of these hosts Talksport have on 🙄
Common sense will teach when you away at tough opponents ...leave with something . Cheats115 thought we would open so they could smash , proper clowns 😂😂😂 Villa Spurs and Cheats115 = 7 points
The ref takes the whistle out of his mouth and puts the yellow card up. If City scores earlier we lose
Do they ever stop whinning?
You cannot obstruct the GK. Period
What happened to Ramsdale on that Brentford season opener?
Cry me a river. Players do it all the time, but people only have an issue with it when it’s Arsenal
Villa put more than 5 players around a keeper. Pretty sure that was against Arsenal.
Boo hoo, if other clubs are complaining about Arsenals time wasting maybe Arsenal are the problem...🤷🤔
Arsenal aren’t the problem 😂 it’s just people getting annoyed that Arsenal finally have a bit of a backbone and steel to them. Every team does the exact same thing and teams in the bottom half of the table do it basically every away game they play with 11 men.
Arsenal should leave the premier league and join a European super league given the way they are being treated. City can do no wrong whatever Arsenal do is castigated
Why believe and we the Arsenal can win the league
Arteta = Spanish Tony Pulis.
🇪🇸🦕🦕🦕🦕🦕🦕
Long ball and set piece goals.
😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
😂 don’t cry mate
Then stop watching Arsenal play. You waste your time watching arsenal only to come complain. How pathetic can you be?
Of course they can still win the league 😂 5 GAMED played. Give it a rest...
Pennant why so negative all the time look at your face how does your wife put up with you maybe she's seeing jermaine jenas behind your back
The best thing to happen to Arsenal is to go undefeated throughout the whole season and, in the end, not to win the premier league 😂😂
What are the odds for that to happen.
Do arsenal fans ever stop crying?
If every one is out there hunting u, maybe u start complaining always hhh lol
@@calafcalafcalaf3845Do rival fans ever stop coming with dead banta? 💀
@@calafcalafcalaf3845 English translation please?
It seems Arsenal fans are the people rattled but say others are😂😂
You only have to listen to Bernardo Silva post match interview to know Man City are rattled.
@@lorraineb7016 You did not add Akanji, Haaland, Stones etc
whole culture of Arsenal is about toxicity it starts from the top, to the manger, players and the fans
Do you want some salt with that?
What exactly is toxic about defending with 10 men or are you just crying because arsenal didn’t lose ?
Every flying roach year “they will win the league” ffs😭
Go to bed. It's past your bed time.
I'm arsenal fan. In my opinion Arsenal will not going to win the premier League this season. So do with every other tournament. Another trophyless season. Arsenal have no pure quality striker. Simple as that 😂
If you’re an Arsenal fan then I am Boris Johnson’s smelly sock
Still rattled i see... 😚
🔥ManU will win the PL before Arsenal🤏
Win your matches first of all and get out from the 11th position
2:53 All these people telling how to play should let their teams go to the Etihad and open up. Leave Arsenal alone.
The goalposts move to the otherside of the field when it comes to Arsenal 🥅
The letter of the law for kicking the ball away is only created for Arsenal. It’s like having a one way road and allowing all cars to break the law except for certain individuals.
I have started to hate Arsenal more than any club, only because of their fans. Now even their football deserves no praise.
Being 2nd is not a trophy.
The fans were dead shut for 2 decades, and now you cant shut them off. Insufferable.