gorcanto Definitely one of my favourite guitarists. I love his style and his guitar. The sound is very rich and very beautiful. He is so effortlessly cool with it as well.
Meh, the music's good. Pantera has a Nazi/skinhead vibe to it and I'll admit, learning the exact lyrics has never been a big goal of mine just in case it gets a bit too out there. I've liked Killing Joke since one day in '91 at 14 yrs old I was recording college radio on KTRU 91.7, Rice University Radio in Houston and Solitude from this album and since then on occasion when KTRU is on in the background the random KJ track will come on. This and the Eighties with that unmistakable Nirvana rip-off they decided to drop the suit on when Kurt blew his top off. Nice guys....but I try not to get too into the lyrics in case they get a bit too pro kremblin and misty eyed for Stalin. He wasn't too much of a nice fella. This song and the unimaginable number of tower cranes around my new building in the new city within the city which is Mission Bay just south of DT or south of south of Market street aka SoMa.......the endless construction, beyond the termite mounds. It does have a jackboots on the march kinda rythym to it.
Killing Joke is great, and their politics are an essential part of what they're doing. It's ridiculous to complain about the content. You can just listen to pop music if you get defensive when somebody says something intelligent and critical.
Which is another way to be utterly acritical. It is legitimate to criticize, a criticism meant in all honesty and to underline the limits is always healthy. Jaz has obviously been great, my favorite album is probably "Pandemonium", and his orchestral works of the late 1990s. I agree with keeroy about the Termite: very likely one of the best songs of the album, although my favorite remains "The beautiful dead". :)
people who object to what he says are idiots anyway. Some are so fragile they can't cope with harsh realities that endless development and "progress" is nihilism and that humans are ultimately overpopulated and struggling to live within their means
There is no one else like them. a truly unique mind blowing band that years from now people will be in awe of and wished they had seen them in concert.
I hunted for it for about 10 years before I finally found a copy (way back when the internet and online shopping weren't even a thing) and finally found a copy on vinyl, the double album. About 2-3 months later, I went to work one day with one album on the turntable, and came home to find the house had been robbed, and my turntable with one half of the album was gone. I was more upset about the missing record than the very expensive Technics 1200 turntable.
By day we're dormant Because it's too hot outside now Nocturnal notions (as we leave or cocoons) Antennae tuned to inhuman vibrations Shaping the cities of the world to come I listen to the sound, the endless construction Inside the termite mound I walked past the nursery All the children have gone now (The rules we taught them are what they've become) Move past the people (they make me feel so indifferent) Serving their purpose It's their purpose to serve A thousand lights from this honeycombed labyrinth These winding tunnels lead to my place of desire Bars and bazaars of self-gratification Live to consume Live for momentary pleasures I listen to the sound, the endless construction Inside the termite mound Read more: Killing Joke - Inside The Termite Mound Lyrics | MetroLyrics
everything I ever wanted in music, everything complex and simple, punk, rock, deep within me always a joke, 20+ gigs, love you and thank you for my life time music...
I say let Jaz say what he wants. You're not defined as a human being by your career and just because you're a musician doesn't mean you can't talk about the world. Put it this way. Everyone complains about how a lot of music today doesn't have meaning, for the reasons previously expressed, people can't say that about Killing Joke.
give me Jaz Colemans view on life anyday over the utter crap that most vocaists write and sing about, i think he has his own way of expressing what he/they are thinking, and i don't think he/they are far off the mark geat songs from a brilliant, original, principled band, they get my vote..
" this is mEAn...Raven changed my view on bassplaying forever...it's ambient and thick and it slithers on this track, you know - the bass has a monster sound..."
Terrific tough as nails track from the Extremities album, this is where they brought it all together officially, it is no question it is one of their finest.
This song is off "Extremeties, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions", though. And it is truly a great album! While I also love (the song and accompanying video to) "Hosannas From the Basement of Hell", I find that the album by that name as a whole does surfer greatly from its overall production sound (too much clipping, compression, a towering and grating over-the-top loudness brickwall instead of a dynamic, emotionally gripping, lively and nuancend volume range). It sounds just (full-)"ON", Like an everlasting blast or shockwave that numbs the listener against any individual intricacies the songs might hold.
I agree...but i choose "extremities...", this album is a inflection point of KJ´s career. And this song hits me in my mind and ears back in the day and, of course, today, after a 2020 of lockdown.
the bottom line is, without his political stance, this band would not be the same. the driving force behind the music is the disenchantment, the disconnection they feel with our leaders and our systems. the music media portray ANYone with something unusual to say (or more likely something that they don't get) as 'mad'. lazy. listen to an interview with him and he is clearly not insane. he sees a much bigger picture than most of us ever want to even look at. thAt is why he is a marginalised figure.
@@Raven-3X luckily yes :) although I must mention I grew up in the UK, so it's not as surprising. Unfortunately in that area of the world, only a very small amount of people have even heard of Killing Joke..
keeroy--great post, and I agree with your position, though frankly I am not too aware of Jaz's opinions except from clicking through a few interviews. He appears to be mostly tongue in cheek and sort of playing to his imagined audience. I have learned to sort of turn down what rockers say and turn up what they play--but a more creative rocker has probably never lived.
keeroy - Loved your description. I too get sick of Jaz's rants. Also, very nicely done video. I've always loved this song but never compared a termite mound to out skyscrapers. (I'm alsos an architecture nut.)
It's a thin line between genius and being a madman. I think Jaz's like that,sometimes he overlooks certain aspects,but overall he sees a lot and speaks out a lot,more than most do.
@LegledTrepteg well it's not only the west. Your biggest offenders of air pollution and water pollution are China and India. But I digress... Considering how employees in the US are expected to literally give up their lives once a job offer is extended and accepted, this song pretty much nails corporate america.
Radical ? Just a human reaction about all the shit we eat day after day. A way to stay alive and kicking. Not a dogma, only a path to reach wisdom and stay real. With doubt, pain, conscience. To keep our love of life real and make it better. To bury this endless construction. To reach something else : "You are an inspiration to me You are my inspiration of how not to be You are my inspiration to achieve a better way of life"
Heard this live and has to be the most intense oncore track ever in Glasgow at the Garage at the back incredible never heard it since i was blown away thankfully RIP my friend Kevin Geordie Walker ❤
well, the album democracy is more about politics than about music... well, fields of the nephilim is another remarkable group, for me especial with their tangible creepy atmosphere.
NYC is what we all know , this is broadening your horrizons Mr. post , besides these are way more immpressive hong kong , dubai , seringetti ant hills ...GEnioUS !
I take it you're not a fan of the new album then given that it's completely all about the 'political radicalism' you speak of. I quite like it when people in Coleman's position use it to voice a stance on the world we live in. (he's always been this way). If you think its radical to point out the corruption in world politics, then id question your use of the term 'radicalism'. Anyway. this a great song thanks for posting. Peace.
By day we're dormant Because it's too hot outside now Nocturnal notions (as we leave or cocoons) Antennae tuned to inhuman vibrations Shaping the cities of the world to come I listen to the sound, the endless construction Inside the termite mound I walked past the nursery All the children have gone now (The rules we taught them are what they've become) Move past the people (they make me feel so indifferent) Serving their purpose It's their purpose to serve. A thousand lights from this honeycombed labyrinth These winding tunnels, lead to my place of desire Bars and bazaars, of self-gratification Live to consume Live for momentary pleasures I listen to the sound, the endless construction Inside the termite mound.
@@Emulous79 capitalism needs poverty to thrive, it needs the desperate who'll do the dirty work while the executive suites are served steak and lobster over the earnings call. Plus, running over peasants in new Bentleys has always been a special little family afternoon activity, especially after tea and biscuits
keeroy if you dont like jazz colemans views,you have no fucking place listening to this great band.its not only jazz who holds these true beliefs,the rest of the band have the same beliefs. jazz speaks exactly what i feel as a kj fan,thats why i listenm and watch them.i suggest you go listen to the fucking eagles.
It's funny because Killing Joke has probably never been more relevant and I too have never been a fan of those who hate Western Civilization as, despite its flaws which have allowed antisocial persons to use their liberties to ultimately make a fortune, build themselves empires and then turn about and become so called philanthropists dead set on stopping anyone from succeeding where their families previously did, that minor flaw (haha) aside, I don't think KJ is anti-western at all: songs like Europe from Night Time (1985) or European Superstate (MMXII) both show that KJ is not anti-western; at least not Jaz. Rough quote, "judeo-Christian morality, with the Greco-Roman intellect, is the way we're shortwired" along with other statements make me think that European Civilization is something Jaz has thought a lot about and based on his positive statements of the US Constitution as well, I think he gets that the fight between individual liberty and the various collectives, especially the collective power of the super-elite transnational class, is out of control and for a long time the latter pretended to defend their crooked monopoly or duopoly style practices, while in bed with state regulators, as if it was all about individual liberty. In the past 20 years however new PR image as taken centerstage for the world's largest corporations, like the robber barons of old becoming philanthropists and anti-trust, it's just as believable, straight out of the Limits to Growth ideology of late 60s and early 70s which went looking for "unsustainable" practices and founded what would "fit the bill" and utilize legitimate environmentalism to much greater and stealthy effect; until now the green gloves of groups like the WEC at Davos had yet to come off. Now the gloves are off and ironfist can be seen for all and it is obvious that this is like all previous Enclosures of the Commons. One can easily dig into the origins of how the legitimate concerns of genuine environmental movements were rolled into a de-industrialization model, funded and helmed by the biggest NGO's in the world, those of Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller etc. I'll give further reading from their own works for those curious. It can all be seen in their regional plans, development goals etc which all eschew freedom and individual choice in favor of another new deal aka new social contract which replaces freedom for so called security, always proposed during great economic and geopolitical instability caused by the very philanthropists themselves. The model of zero growth aka sustainability portrays man as an enemy - but only if he's a small holder of property (small businesses, family farms) - being ultra poor or ultra rich are the two classes allowed in the fine print. All those post 1991 UN declarations, that so few paid attention to as they were worded like some bureaucratic utopia which presumably would come from the top down and be seen a long way off, were cleverly worked on en masse at the local level, state, province, department and across the world by hundreds of smaller ngo's quietly but not at all secretly backed by the big foundations. They went to work across the world "preserving" the lion's share of freshwater, farmland and so on. The IMF was always chief among the pernicious organizations in question having acted as the conduit for privatizing and eventually declaring off limits the post-imperial world's own natural resources. Most of the new states, especially ex-French and British Africa, have remained expertly divided, with the occasional use of a pro-Western or pro-Communist coup, ensuring any leaders who went to Paris or London and still wouldn't be bought off ended up on the chopping block, subject to electoral fraud which meant civil war to contest with "peacekeepers" behind them. For Latin America an timely plane crash or black-clad Contra thug movement trained at the School of the Americas and moved from country to country vis a vis the successful Italian Gladio or Afghanistan Mujaheddin strategy used versus the USSR and later Russia in the Caucuses, Balkans, the Middle East and North Africa By the 1990's the same economic treatment using IMF mass privatization, forced production of cash crops with poor market prospects or some other disaster was also repeated in many ex-communist nations under the "shock therapy" doctrine. By the economic crises of 2001, 2008 and finally 2020 the core wealthy world is getting the same treatment as above, being reduced back to serfdom, that is to the same status as the "developing" world were using the debt as a weapon as with the IMF, color revolutions as with the ex-colonial or later the ex-communist powers a technique of temporarily freezing civil society creates a short lived but intense political upheaval allowing the devaluing of the currency, the purging or silencing of critics, the locking up of natural resources and their sale or transfer to transnationals who can then further ensure the cost of energy, food etc is whatever it needs to be to break our backs and get a national or regional government - whatever is left - to agree to any kind of banker aid deal and years of harsh austerity. So of course this final stage of doing in the "1st World" what was already done in the 2nd and 3rd must be done not with previous style of anti-communism, counter-narcoterrorism or counter-religious terror nor the Arab Spring pro-democracy arms trade to less than democratic black-clad dudes just like the Contras etc but this time, after much practice, through a lockstep global response to the current crisis which involves rolling lockdowns, "temporary" measures, flashmobs which appear from nowhere after months of not getting 10 people together, cognitive dissonance to max; like 1789 or 1917 but on a grander scale. This is nothing more than a demented form of merging national power with transnational mega-corporations which is a kind of international fascism (corporate-state merger being the original definition) with the tried and tested methods of Mao, Pol Pot and others at the ready where needed.... this all ends in Neo-feudalism rather more likely than any united government for the world. Instead geosystemic chaos will probably spill into regional wars which burn on for decades if we survive as a species beyond subsistence that is. The "developing" world was never allowed to develop or even actively de-industrialized, just to supply raw materials or break resistant power structures, that imperial or developing world sent its raw resources first to the core nations' factories until the 1973-75 crisis at least, thence to the second tier of nations who were allowed industrial capacity but paid only bottom of the barrel prices on labor until finally automation could come along to the point where the greater mass of mankind is now truly obsolete, redundant and dangerous to a tiny class of royalty intermarried with bankers. Their hubris will be their undoing, but they may well take us all with them.
- Jaz Coleman is hardly a radical. He sings about what he observes. In any of his songs does he say, Democracy is bad, Money is bad, etc. Nope, he spits it out like the way it is...furthermore, he is not by any means and atypical musical artist. He has written and conducted symphonies. Saying Jaz Coleman is a political radical is moronic. That's like saying Barack Obama is an incredible musician.
re - Hossanas - yes it has a strange compulsive quality - i have veered from loving to hating it and back to loving it again - it's definately unique - should be interesting to see what the new LP will be like.
KJ were, and are, the most intellectual confusing yet rational bands that proliferated for the last 30+ yearssuperb, my friends who I used to gig with are dead now, they are just...
What makes KJ a great band is that they are different things to different people (who get it). One person will listen and say "POLITICAL" and another will listen and say "MYSTICAL"; yet another "INDUSTRIAL". This and always the anticipation of another album, which is always sure to...
@@stevehensonuk SF reached 106 two years ago, the fog is less visible every year over year. People that never even thought about air conditioning in their SF houses are now miserably hot in them if they're not on the shaded side of the street. Summer seems to last longer and longer into fall every year but yeah it's all made up. Burning more and more carbon based fuels while clear cutting the planets oxygen producing lungs aka Boreal Forests and huge swaths of the Amazon surely have no affect on climate. Rained 27 straight days from Dec into January here this year from all of the extra tons and tons of water in the atmosphere coming down in "rivers" is also surely just coincidence. And that's just one side of one city. Hopefully you were being sarcastic because no one can be that clueless and aloof to what's happening with the weather. The melting permafrost and the huge methane gas pockets leaving giant sinkholes in the Tundra in former Mongolia are just made up liberal propaganda to take our guns away, amirate?
well, born in a dictatorship, i'm very well aware of the advantages of the democracy. like churchill have said - "it has been told that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time".
Yeah, your right, Jazz is a little nuts, but i've never seen a better KJ show then I've seen in Chicago last year( At The House Of Blues) Paul Raven was a friend of mine, but I'd never seen Youth perform with them before, I was glad to witness this particular KJ incarnation. Being in a band myself, age has a way of making you hurry things up. This album with Martin Atkins stands out as one their best!
This is ridiculous. I didn't know if this was a batman audiobook or a termite documentary or a stand comedy show. It ended up being the least likely thing ever.
hehe well keeroy I would urge you to exercise some caution in assuming that Jaz refuses private property... perhaps it is the case... but perhaps not... unless you hear him actually say that explicitly I would caution you not to assume it... I mention this to you because on the subject of private property a HUGE number of conflations have been made in history... Marx was conflated with Stalin... Chomsky has been conflated with Stalin... Castro has been conflated with Stalin
You probably know by now but just in case, it’s from “extremities, dirt and various repressed emotions” album, or “extremities” for short. Released around 90/91. Brilliant record.
If you're not interested in his ideas, don't read them. That simple. Your ideas (or mine by that matter) aren't any more relevant. Btw, I'm thankful for Jaz Coleman promoting his political 'radicalism' which to me feels more like common sense. Then again common sense is not that common after all.
Me too, there's a brand new 9 story condo building going up next door to the new building I just moved into. The double paned, has filled, latch-closed windows keep the sound out so well, I forget they're building that thing there sometimes. This whole section of SF is all brand new termite mounds, very modern and aesthetically pleasing ones at that
kj were my boys from 1980 onwards saw them on a regular basis up to 88. first. album is a ground breaker! whats this for! wow! those drums. Jaz still likes to question authourity, politics, religion, structure, etc. thank f~~k cos i havent got time. music to make you think...
well, in my opinion is jaz mad and genial at the same time. he´ll never be a commom musician. and that makes him irredeemable in one or another way. but personally i hate when musicians try to be politicians (and vice versa...) and misuse their concerts for agitations (like bono vox or massive attack i experienced). coleman´s view of the society like in this song may be very intriguing and welcome, but his communistic ideas of private property refusal quite extreme ("money is not our god").
Is it about the music or the politics? Personally i love the music for how it makes me feel emotionaly and though i do think i am a spiritual person ( i'me from Newcastle) this is as close as i get to that stuff. in other word each to his own. You do not know what Jazz or anyone else thinks about another persons thought unless they / he told you so.
..and sometimes not. When the emperor is undressed is fine to exist someone to had the guts to say it. And capitalism is often a naked emperor (sometimes :)
@ Keeroy ---> I know what you mean; he hates capitalism yet that is the vehicle of his success.... this is, uhhh, hypocritical on his behalf...... ultimately I turn a blind eye to his politics and just enjoy the songs and music. They are probably my favorite band these days. I had the privlige of opening up for them with my band about 20 years ago..... don't even remember it.... (drunk at the time).......
Capitalism has been the vehicle of his success? Not true. But even if it were, you cannot dismiss his statements on that basis. That’s the tu quoque fallacy. Something isn’t untrue just because it’s stated by a hypocrite.
Unbelievably epic guitar sound. Geordie Walker is so underrated. Nobody can write riffs that sound like this. His sound is monstruous and beautiful.
gorcanto
Definitely one of my favourite guitarists. I love his style and his guitar. The sound is very rich and very beautiful. He is so effortlessly cool with it as well.
👍👍👍 Geordie is so Zen with that guitar, its almost part of him!
Unbelievable sound - love Geordie
Taking a stand against the corporate poisoning of mother earth can hardly be called "political radicalism" ...
in the world we live in, the most normal and natural things appear radical. which is our biggest problem...
Horizon shut me down
This is the world we live in,a world ruled by people who worship at the altar of the 💷💰sign.They have no ethics or morality.
Absolutely right.👏👏👏
The political radicalism as you term is, is part of the flavor of Killing Joke. It goes right back to their earliest records.
👍👍👍So true!
Right, but lets be honest, Jaz isn't really consistent on what he believes.
Meh, the music's good. Pantera has a Nazi/skinhead vibe to it and I'll admit, learning the exact lyrics has never been a big goal of mine just in case it gets a bit too out there. I've liked Killing Joke since one day in '91 at 14 yrs old I was recording college radio on KTRU 91.7, Rice University Radio in Houston and Solitude from this album and since then on occasion when KTRU is on in the background the random KJ track will come on. This and the Eighties with that unmistakable Nirvana rip-off they decided to drop the suit on when Kurt blew his top off. Nice guys....but I try not to get too into the lyrics in case they get a bit too pro kremblin and misty eyed for Stalin. He wasn't too much of a nice fella. This song and the unimaginable number of tower cranes around my new building in the new city within the city which is Mission Bay just south of DT or south of south of Market street aka SoMa.......the endless construction, beyond the termite mounds. It does have a jackboots on the march kinda rythym to it.
Really one of the most underrated Albums in Music history...
Killing Joke is great, and their politics are an essential part of what they're doing. It's ridiculous to complain about the content. You can just listen to pop music if you get defensive when somebody says something intelligent and critical.
Which is another way to be utterly acritical. It is legitimate to criticize, a criticism meant in all honesty and to underline the limits is always healthy. Jaz has obviously been great, my favorite album is probably "Pandemonium", and his orchestral works of the late 1990s.
I agree with keeroy about the Termite: very likely one of the best songs of the album, although my favorite remains "The beautiful dead". :)
people who object to what he says are idiots anyway. Some are so fragile they can't cope with harsh realities that endless development and "progress" is nihilism and that humans are ultimately overpopulated and struggling to live within their means
You’ve got that bang on 💪🤘🎸
Best band in the world!
Agree
@@InsideBilderberg me too
There is no one else like them. a truly unique mind blowing band that years from now people will be in awe of and wished they had seen them in concert.
This is an amazing album. Bloody brilliant. One of my favourites, ever.
I hunted for it for about 10 years before I finally found a copy (way back when the internet and online shopping weren't even a thing) and finally found a copy on vinyl, the double album. About 2-3 months later, I went to work one day with one album on the turntable, and came home to find the house had been robbed, and my turntable with one half of the album was gone. I was more upset about the missing record than the very expensive Technics 1200 turntable.
the guitar in this song is unreal. it sounds like buildings melting. what an underrated riffwriter and guitar player!
antonio ortiz Geordie most certainly is.
Geordie and Jaz are the Killing and the Joke. By themselves they are nothing, together they bring down the barriers of music.
Absolute innovators.
@@Emulous79 👍👍👍Agreed!
Phantastisch
By day we're dormant
Because it's too hot outside now
Nocturnal notions (as we leave or cocoons)
Antennae tuned to inhuman vibrations
Shaping the cities of the world to come
I listen to the sound, the endless construction
Inside the termite mound
I walked past the nursery
All the children have gone now
(The rules we taught them are what they've become)
Move past the people (they make me feel so indifferent)
Serving their purpose
It's their purpose to serve
A thousand lights from this honeycombed labyrinth
These winding tunnels lead to my place of desire
Bars and bazaars of self-gratification
Live to consume
Live for momentary pleasures
I listen to the sound, the endless construction
Inside the termite mound
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everything I ever wanted in music, everything complex and simple, punk, rock, deep within me always a joke, 20+ gigs, love you and thank you for my life time music...
I say let Jaz say what he wants. You're not defined as a human being by your career and just because you're a musician doesn't mean you can't talk about the world. Put it this way. Everyone complains about how a lot of music today doesn't have meaning, for the reasons previously expressed, people can't say that about Killing Joke.
Agree. Though I can't deny I'd welcome a Killing Joke song about them doing their laundry ;)
@@blackmore4 love like blood (get it into soak)
@@eyemoeba You don´t understand "love like blood", I´m sorry for you.
@@markelvillacortafernandez2512 you don't understand my humour. i'm sorry for you.
@@eyemoebaPut the :) next. Sigh.
give me Jaz Colemans view on life anyday over the utter crap that most vocaists write and sing about, i think he has his own way of expressing what he/they are thinking, and i don't think he/they are far off the mark geat songs from a brilliant, original, principled band, they get my vote..
Musically and lyrically highly evocative. Genius.
Farewell, Geordie. Thank you for giving voice to our apocalypse.
" this is mEAn...Raven changed my view on bassplaying forever...it's ambient and thick and it slithers on this track, you know - the bass has a monster sound..."
It's hard to believe the album this song came from got a bad review for production when released. I love this album.
Terrific tough as nails track from the Extremities album, this is where they brought it all together officially, it is no question it is one of their finest.
That unique, brutal, metallic, hollow guitar can only mean one person ie Geordie Walker!
Great lyrics and great song from my favorite KJ album!
I think Hosanna is actually one of Killing Jokes best albums ever...raw, dark and powerful.
This song is off "Extremeties, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions", though. And it is truly a great album!
While I also love (the song and accompanying video to) "Hosannas From the Basement of Hell", I find that the album by that name as a whole does surfer greatly from its overall production sound (too much clipping, compression, a towering and grating over-the-top loudness brickwall instead of a dynamic, emotionally gripping, lively and nuancend volume range). It sounds just (full-)"ON", Like an everlasting blast or shockwave that numbs the listener against any individual intricacies the songs might hold.
I agree...but i choose "extremities...", this album is a inflection point of KJ´s career. And this song hits me in my mind and ears back in the day and, of course, today, after a 2020 of lockdown.
the bottom line is, without his political stance, this band would not be the same. the driving force behind the music is the disenchantment, the disconnection they feel with our leaders and our systems. the music media portray ANYone with something unusual to say (or more likely something that they don't get) as 'mad'. lazy. listen to an interview with him and he is clearly not insane. he sees a much bigger picture than most of us ever want to even look at. thAt is why he is a marginalised figure.
One of my favorite songs.
Bosniacs know for Killing Joke ? Crazy !
@@Raven-3X luckily yes :) although I must mention I grew up in the UK, so it's not as surprising. Unfortunately in that area of the world, only a very small amount of people have even heard of Killing Joke..
keeroy--great post, and I agree with your position, though frankly I am not too aware of Jaz's opinions except from clicking through a few interviews. He appears to be mostly tongue in cheek and sort of playing to his imagined audience. I have learned to sort of turn down what rockers say and turn up what they play--but a more creative rocker has probably never lived.
keeroy - Loved your description. I too get sick of Jaz's rants. Also, very nicely done video. I've always loved this song but never compared a termite mound to out skyscrapers. (I'm alsos an architecture nut.)
Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions...one of the best albums of history IMHO.
Turn it up to 11
Killing Joke's Night Time album was my second CD ever, in early 1988!
What was your first?
It's a thin line between genius and being a madman.
I think Jaz's like that,sometimes he overlooks certain aspects,but overall he sees a lot and speaks out a lot,more than most do.
Radicalism is the motor of the species homms!
RIP Paul Raven
Still love it now as then! My ex partner now gone loved it too.
@LegledTrepteg well it's not only the west. Your biggest offenders of air pollution and water pollution are China and India. But I digress...
Considering how employees in the US are expected to literally give up their lives once a job offer is extended and accepted, this song pretty much nails corporate america.
R IP Geordie 😢
Radical ? Just a human reaction about all the shit we eat day after day.
A way to stay alive and kicking.
Not a dogma, only a path to reach wisdom and stay real.
With doubt, pain, conscience.
To keep our love of life real and make it better.
To bury this endless construction.
To reach something else :
"You are an inspiration to me
You are my inspiration of how not to be
You are my inspiration to achieve a better way of life"
Heard this live and has to be the most intense oncore track ever in Glasgow at the Garage at the back incredible never heard it since i was blown away thankfully RIP my friend Kevin Geordie Walker ❤
well, the album democracy is more about politics than about music... well, fields of the nephilim is another remarkable group, for me especial with their tangible creepy atmosphere.
NYC is what we all know , this is broadening your horrizons Mr. post , besides these are way more immpressive hong kong , dubai , seringetti ant hills ...GEnioUS !
Ah, the Extremities Tour. Still vivid in my mind after so long.
Nice comparisons between termite mounds and human buildings. Very good pics.
Esto es lo que amamos de ellos,entrega,actitud,vanguardia creativa,coherencia lirica y cosmovisión brutal...🤟🥃
Christ.......fair play some of the most articulate comments I've ever read on youtube. There's hope yet.
Did White zombie ripped off that effect for Electric Head Pt.1?
I take it you're not a fan of the new album then given that it's completely all about the 'political radicalism' you speak of. I quite like it when people in Coleman's position use it to voice a stance on the world we live in. (he's always been this way). If you think its radical to point out the corruption in world politics, then id question your use of the term 'radicalism'. Anyway. this a great song thanks for posting. Peace.
Holy hell that i am loving that song... the relentless distorted string sound and Jaz Coleman voice... perfect.
yes
most of these constructions are not from the West
Sadly
others are immitating what came before
By day we're dormant
Because it's too hot outside now
Nocturnal notions (as we leave or cocoons)
Antennae tuned to inhuman vibrations
Shaping the cities of the world to come
I listen to the sound, the endless construction
Inside the termite mound
I walked past the nursery
All the children have gone now
(The rules we taught them are what they've become)
Move past the people (they make me feel so indifferent)
Serving their purpose
It's their purpose to serve.
A thousand lights from this honeycombed labyrinth
These winding tunnels, lead to my place of desire
Bars and bazaars, of self-gratification
Live to consume
Live for momentary pleasures
I listen to the sound, the endless construction
Inside the termite mound.
The slaves shall serve.
@@Emulous79 capitalism needs poverty to thrive, it needs the desperate who'll do the dirty work while the executive suites are served steak and lobster over the earnings call. Plus, running over peasants in new Bentleys has always been a special little family afternoon activity, especially after tea and biscuits
Listen to this it's like Faith No More riding the heart out of nirvana!
Brilliant! who cares what he says if it sounds this good?
keeroy if you dont like jazz colemans views,you have no fucking place listening to this great band.its not only jazz who holds these true beliefs,the rest of the band have the same beliefs. jazz speaks exactly what i feel as a kj fan,thats why i listenm and watch them.i suggest you go listen to the fucking eagles.
This song is Killing Joke on a higher plane. The wisdom flows with that huge guitar. They rushed this album, it could have been so much more!!!
It's funny because Killing Joke has probably never been more relevant and I too have never been a fan of those who hate Western Civilization as, despite its flaws which have allowed antisocial persons to use their liberties to ultimately make a fortune, build themselves empires and then turn about and become so called philanthropists dead set on stopping anyone from succeeding where their families previously did, that minor flaw (haha) aside, I don't think KJ is anti-western at all: songs like Europe from Night Time (1985) or European Superstate (MMXII) both show that KJ is not anti-western; at least not Jaz. Rough quote, "judeo-Christian morality, with the Greco-Roman intellect, is the way we're shortwired" along with other statements make me think that European Civilization is something Jaz has thought a lot about and based on his positive statements of the US Constitution as well, I think he gets that the fight between individual liberty and the various collectives, especially the collective power of the super-elite transnational class, is out of control and for a long time the latter pretended to defend their crooked monopoly or duopoly style practices, while in bed with state regulators, as if it was all about individual liberty. In the past 20 years however new PR image as taken centerstage for the world's largest corporations, like the robber barons of old becoming philanthropists and anti-trust, it's just as believable, straight out of the Limits to Growth ideology of late 60s and early 70s which went looking for "unsustainable" practices and founded what would "fit the bill" and utilize legitimate environmentalism to much greater and stealthy effect; until now the green gloves of groups like the WEC at Davos had yet to come off. Now the gloves are off and ironfist can be seen for all and it is obvious that this is like all previous Enclosures of the Commons.
One can easily dig into the origins of how the legitimate concerns of genuine environmental movements were rolled into a de-industrialization model, funded and helmed by the biggest NGO's in the world, those of Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller etc. I'll give further reading from their own works for those curious. It can all be seen in their regional plans, development goals etc which all eschew freedom and individual choice in favor of another new deal aka new social contract which replaces freedom for so called security, always proposed during great economic and geopolitical instability caused by the very philanthropists themselves. The model of zero growth aka sustainability portrays man as an enemy - but only if he's a small holder of property (small businesses, family farms) - being ultra poor or ultra rich are the two classes allowed in the fine print. All those post 1991 UN declarations, that so few paid attention to as they were worded like some bureaucratic utopia which presumably would come from the top down and be seen a long way off, were cleverly worked on en masse at the local level, state, province, department and across the world by hundreds of smaller ngo's quietly but not at all secretly backed by the big foundations. They went to work across the world "preserving" the lion's share of freshwater, farmland and so on. The IMF was always chief among the pernicious organizations in question having acted as the conduit for privatizing and eventually declaring off limits the post-imperial world's own natural resources. Most of the new states, especially ex-French and British Africa, have remained expertly divided, with the occasional use of a pro-Western or pro-Communist coup, ensuring any leaders who went to Paris or London and still wouldn't be bought off ended up on the chopping block, subject to electoral fraud which meant civil war to contest with "peacekeepers" behind them. For Latin America an timely plane crash or black-clad Contra thug movement trained at the School of the Americas and moved from country to country vis a vis the successful Italian Gladio or Afghanistan Mujaheddin strategy used versus the USSR and later Russia in the Caucuses, Balkans, the Middle East and North Africa By the 1990's the same economic treatment using IMF mass privatization, forced production of cash crops with poor market prospects or some other disaster was also repeated in many ex-communist nations under the "shock therapy" doctrine.
By the economic crises of 2001, 2008 and finally 2020 the core wealthy world is getting the same treatment as above, being reduced back to serfdom, that is to the same status as the "developing" world were using the debt as a weapon as with the IMF, color revolutions as with the ex-colonial or later the ex-communist powers a technique of temporarily freezing civil society creates a short lived but intense political upheaval allowing the devaluing of the currency, the purging or silencing of critics, the locking up of natural resources and their sale or transfer to transnationals who can then further ensure the cost of energy, food etc is whatever it needs to be to break our backs and get a national or regional government - whatever is left - to agree to any kind of banker aid deal and years of harsh austerity. So of course this final stage of doing in the "1st World" what was already done in the 2nd and 3rd must be done not with previous style of anti-communism, counter-narcoterrorism or counter-religious terror nor the Arab Spring pro-democracy arms trade to less than democratic black-clad dudes just like the Contras etc but this time, after much practice, through a lockstep global response to the current crisis which involves rolling lockdowns, "temporary" measures, flashmobs which appear from nowhere after months of not getting 10 people together, cognitive dissonance to max; like 1789 or 1917 but on a grander scale. This is nothing more than a demented form of merging national power with transnational mega-corporations which is a kind of international fascism (corporate-state merger being the original definition) with the tried and tested methods of Mao, Pol Pot and others at the ready where needed.... this all ends in Neo-feudalism rather more likely than any united government for the world. Instead geosystemic chaos will probably spill into regional wars which burn on for decades if we survive as a species beyond subsistence that is.
The "developing" world was never allowed to develop or even actively de-industrialized, just to supply raw materials or break resistant power structures, that imperial or developing world sent its raw resources first to the core nations' factories until the 1973-75 crisis at least, thence to the second tier of nations who were allowed industrial capacity but paid only bottom of the barrel prices on labor until finally automation could come along to the point where the greater mass of mankind is now truly obsolete, redundant and dangerous to a tiny class of royalty intermarried with bankers. Their hubris will be their undoing, but they may well take us all with them.
- Jaz Coleman is hardly a radical. He sings about what he observes. In any of his songs does he say, Democracy is bad, Money is bad, etc. Nope, he spits it out like the way it is...furthermore, he is not by any means and atypical musical artist. He has written and conducted symphonies. Saying Jaz Coleman is a political radical is moronic. That's like saying Barack Obama is an incredible musician.
Like the video. Great symbolism. If we are the termites who are the humans this time.
That's a well stated opinion. Its a pretty bizzare concept in any case.
I know this from another life.
tyvm
Go see them live or just turn it up LOUD! its the only way to get it.... Spirit, Soul and Sound!!!...
I must say i prefer killing jokes music in the early eightes when jaz was A-policitcal, i think that all fell down at 'Love like blood'
I sowant this album and I can't seem to find it anywhere!
re - Hossanas - yes it has a strange compulsive quality - i have veered from loving to hating it and back to loving it again - it's definately unique - should be interesting to see what the new LP will be like.
Such an impressive masterpiece. I've had enough.
KJ were, and are, the most intellectual confusing yet rational bands that proliferated for the last 30+ yearssuperb, my friends who I used to gig with are dead now, they are just...
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What makes KJ a great band is that they are different things to different people (who get it). One person will listen and say "POLITICAL" and another will listen and say "MYSTICAL"; yet another "INDUSTRIAL". This and always the anticipation of another album, which is always sure to...
LOL--as soon as i put this video on, an insect lands on the screen!
Agenda 21 will leave us in above-ground versions of this tune
Shame the whole 'global warming' crap is being exposed as the lie that it is...
@@stevehensonuk SF reached 106 two years ago, the fog is less visible every year over year. People that never even thought about air conditioning in their SF houses are now miserably hot in them if they're not on the shaded side of the street. Summer seems to last longer and longer into fall every year but yeah it's all made up. Burning more and more carbon based fuels while clear cutting the planets oxygen producing lungs aka Boreal Forests and huge swaths of the Amazon surely have no affect on climate. Rained 27 straight days from Dec into January here this year from all of the extra tons and tons of water in the atmosphere coming down in "rivers" is also surely just coincidence. And that's just one side of one city. Hopefully you were being sarcastic because no one can be that clueless and aloof to what's happening with the weather. The melting permafrost and the huge methane gas pockets leaving giant sinkholes in the Tundra in former Mongolia are just made up liberal propaganda to take our guns away, amirate?
well, born in a dictatorship, i'm very well aware of the advantages of the democracy. like churchill have said - "it has been told that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time".
Please point out where Killing Joke aren’t for democracy.
dakujem ;)
Cathedrals built by bugs. Weird.
well, in NYC are not many skyscrapers left...
My fav song of Killing Joke
Jaz Colman is a friend and also a great guy, please don’t judge people before you even begin to know them?
D M
Who is?
I have seen interviews with him on TH-cam and he seems fascinating. I reckon he would be great to have a chat with.
Yeah, your right, Jazz is a little nuts, but i've never seen a better KJ show then I've seen in Chicago last year( At The House Of Blues) Paul Raven was a friend of mine, but I'd never seen Youth perform with them before, I was glad to witness this particular KJ incarnation. Being in a band myself, age has a way of making you hurry things up. This album with Martin Atkins stands out as one their best!
a propos, happy 2008 for all you guys here.
This is ridiculous. I didn't know if this was a batman audiobook or a termite documentary or a stand comedy show.
It ended up being the least likely thing ever.
What album is this off of? I love this song.
yea your right...still pretty cool vid..\
some real termite mounds look like works of art..thanks for posting,never heard the band before
hehe well keeroy I would urge you to exercise some caution in assuming that Jaz refuses private property... perhaps it is the case... but perhaps not... unless you hear him actually say that explicitly I would caution you not to assume it... I mention this to you because on the subject of private property a HUGE number of conflations have been made in history... Marx was conflated with Stalin... Chomsky has been conflated with Stalin... Castro has been conflated with Stalin
Totally agree Witherspoon your comment.
Torally agree with your comment.
yeah, in my opinion the climax of killing joke too...
well, can´t like them all I guess...the ones I hardly play are Fire Dances and Revelations.
if i was an ant eater my mouth would be watering while watching this!
Mine was but I skipped breakfast
Yeeeeehaaaaawww
the mounds at 2:54 look like graves
@keeroy How do you figure? lol
never mind JAZ...this stuff is PRIMAL! talk is cheap, and, in the end, its all bout enjoying life! go out and take the day!
Best song on Extremities
One of KJ´s best songs.
I love this song. Can someone tell me which album it is on?
You probably know by now but just in case, it’s from “extremities, dirt and various repressed emotions” album, or “extremities” for short. Released around 90/91. Brilliant record.
@@jobrimar8291 On my top 5 best albums of all times list.
Video is ok, but dear Keeroy, why would anyone be interested in your opinions? If you want to promote your boring ideas, go write a blog or something.
I am interested.
If you're not interested in his ideas, don't read them. That simple. Your ideas (or mine by that matter) aren't any more relevant.
Btw, I'm thankful for Jaz Coleman promoting his political 'radicalism' which to me feels more like common sense. Then again common sense is not that common after all.
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I listen to the sound, the endless construction
Inside the termite mound.
Me too, there's a brand new 9 story condo building going up next door to the new building I just moved into. The double paned, has filled, latch-closed windows keep the sound out so well, I forget they're building that thing there sometimes. This whole section of SF is all brand new termite mounds, very modern and aesthetically pleasing ones at that
kj were my boys from 1980 onwards saw them on a regular basis up to 88. first. album is a ground breaker! whats this for! wow! those drums. Jaz still likes to question authourity, politics, religion, structure, etc. thank f~~k cos i havent got time. music to make you think...
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What a great album . I love that song
Simply brilliant. Cheers mate!
well, in my opinion is jaz mad and genial at the same time. he´ll never be a commom musician. and that makes him irredeemable in one or another way. but personally i hate when musicians try to be politicians (and vice versa...) and misuse their concerts for agitations (like bono vox or massive attack i experienced). coleman´s view of the society like in this song may be very intriguing and welcome, but his communistic ideas of private property refusal quite extreme ("money is not our god").
Teddy smazmeen hakapulitan the kleptomaniac fish pod person marches through the streets on the back of the Imajica to this song.
Clive Barker, huh?
Is it about the music or the politics? Personally i love the music for how it makes me feel emotionaly and though i do think i am a spiritual person ( i'me from Newcastle) this is as close as i get to that stuff. in other word each to his own. You do not know what Jazz or anyone else thinks about another persons thought unless they / he told you so.
Bet Solitude is one of your faves from them then?
What a number .
the "truth" can be sometimes very subjective, dogamitc and manipulative.
..and sometimes not. When the emperor is undressed is fine to exist someone to had the guts to say it. And capitalism is often a naked emperor (sometimes :)
@ Keeroy ---> I know what you mean; he hates capitalism yet that is the vehicle of his success.... this is, uhhh, hypocritical on his behalf...... ultimately I turn a blind eye to his politics and just enjoy the songs and music. They are probably my favorite band these days. I had the privlige of opening up for them with my band about 20 years ago..... don't even remember it.... (drunk at the time).......
Capitalism has been the vehicle of his success? Not true. But even if it were, you cannot dismiss his statements on that basis. That’s the tu quoque fallacy. Something isn’t untrue just because it’s stated by a hypocrite.
a great song.... ever... atmosphere is really deep and dark... RIP Paul Raven..