made me extremely mad when that cop was like "no, i dont owe him an apology" like dude....you ruined his life and threw him in prison for over a year, you really do owe that innocent man an apology
Yes this does happen way too much I’ll never understand why they just wanna close a case! No evidence no anything but ego and while the whole time the real criminals are out and about the sad part is they know this!
Can we just take a second to appreciate that the little girl not only escaped and then got that bastard convicted, but ended up solving the murder of another little girl? She’s a hero!
Ok but please stop giving victims more credit for “fighting for their lives.” Victims are victims and depending on the circumstances, sometimes you might want to try your appease your attacker. How about we focus on stopping the MEN from attack king others, especially children.
@@cruisepaige what the hell are you even talking about. Nobody said other victims are cowards, and nobody said anything about males or females. We should highlight and commend victims who fight for their lives and in the process, end up convicting killers and solving cases. What a ridiculous take lol
They destroyed his whole life. He lost his job, family, reputation and lastly his freedom. Took 10 years of his life. I believe this man is owed millions of $
@@richardwolfe844 well you committed a armed robbery. You didn’t do “nothing” you aren’t a victim.i got in a bar fight and did 4 years. I’m not crying and I have never blamed any one but myself. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. You are the exact reason you don’t do crimes with anyone else because you’d justify snitching on your codefendant lmao
@@smmacktalk The whole department isn't a laughing stock - it's actually a modern day example of how police work is NOT supposed to happen. Hearing those confirmed idiot so-called "detectives" try to force a false confession should be played for students in criminal justice courses to show how interrogations can lead to false confessions. Because police actually are trained to deceive when necessary but outright total lies based on no FACTS whatsoever can often lead to false confessions and other legal issues that can destroy a case.
Immediately blaming the person who happened to suggest looking where you found her is just giving people reasons NOT to help, because heaven forbid they get something right and help so well that you find them!
Because police are allowed to lie when interviewing suspects..?all this b.s about how they have all this evidence, but they couldnt tell him,,,l would have lawyered up immediately. evidence@trgiun
Omg, Ray only got $40,000 in compensation for the abuse he suffered at the hands of law enforcement. That wouldn’t even cover his wages for the time he was incarcerated, let alone the suffering and loss of everything in his life?
And what’s even more sad, the officers who did that to him don’t have to turn in their badge. They continue to get away with doing this to innocent lives you can’t fix a f up that bug with any amount
He needs a good new york lawyer to sue the pathetic ex cop who wouldnt apologize and the joker cop who said he was the laughing stock of his station...for 5mil
@@ludwigvonn9889 that was there point lol, that’s why they said he only got $40k even after they ruined his life. But yeah, should have been more than $500k too/:
Yep. Anyone that knows anything about body language can tell he’s innocent. As a detective they should have noticed that but they were more interested in “solving” the case than finding the truth. So pathetic. I wish those detectives could be charged with something but I’m sure they can’t and they will get to walk around with their stupid, low iq grins on their face.
I agree. I had a very hard time watching it myself, I felt so horrible for him. I was also horrified that t the police and the judicial system were able to convict him so easily and for so long for perjury. This could happen to anyone.
Everyone experts after they know the truth. You must be smarter than everyone else. I'm only human, I would have thought he did it. Now, I know I could be wrong.
Wow, the fact that the Ex Police Chief just shows zero guilt for likely knowingly convicting an innocent man and ruining his life for YEARS is infuriating. Stuff like that makes my blood absolutely boil
Vespairr ATTORNEY OR LAWYER! Once you’ve answered the questions and cooperated, yet it still obvious they’re completely laser focused on you and aren’t being open minded regarding looking at other theories. Yes it’s time to say those magical words, I want a LAWYER please. It made me literally sick as they went on because I could feel that he was innocent.
They interviewed over 1,000 people in this case in a town of 4,000, AND STILL failed to interview the real creep. Smfh. Such incompetence. Chief Laughingstock should've had HIS life and reputation ruined.
“I’m the laughing stock of the police station”. Sorry if my truth is messing up your personal life. I’ll just go to prison for years & years so that you’ll be comfortable.
"Hey mate I'm really embarrassed. Just tell me what I want to hear so I can wipe this egg of my face. I'll back you up like always. I'm a police officer and I never lie." Clang goes the cell door. "Ha ha sucked in. See you in 20 years loser." Cops, ya gotta love em.
Yeah the county is tiny and never sees this kind of stuff. They're incompetent enough when it comes to petty crimes so doesn't surprise me how bad they fumbled this
And even then don't answer. They were obviously hoping to make a case against him, so why make their job any easier. Ask if you are being charged, and if not ask if you are free to leave.
Yes, lawyer up, but being stern with police does not end well (for poor people), as far as I've seen. Also, if they want to pin it on you, it will ALMOST CERTAINLY stick, and you will be convicted of the crime. It truly, is not about the guilty person being convicted and punished for their actions.
This video was really hard to watch. That poor man. I can't imagine the helpless feeling and terror he went through. All he did was try to help find her and because he was a reserve he had access to cuffs he must have done it. Anyone can get cuffs! My heart breaks for him and I haven’t finished the video but I pray he's doing ok now 🙏 😔 ❤
For the first time watching one of Mike’s videos, I had to fast forward through much of the interviews, particularly the last one. Felt sick for this honest, pleading man.
I guess he felt that being totally innocent he wouldn't need any council. I probably wouldn't get a Lawyer either, dumb move considering this, it's just that it would be the last thing on my mind if i didn't do something.
@@mariestreeting9145 That's what most people think, "If I'm innocent, I'll just talk to them and clear my name". The only thing is, they're after convictions and confessions and not necessarily the truth (not all of them, of course, but likely most). A lot of innocent people have been convicted and have confessed to things they didn't do. It's the tactics they use that coerce false confessions. Nobody thinks they'd confess to something they didn't do, but it happens all the time. If they get a confession, they get a conviction. Anyway, if you ever are questioned, exercise your Miranda right to remain silent and immediately ask for an attorney. Don't say anything without the attorney present. Even with an attorney, I'd probably still remain silent. They can't do anything with that. And, if they're not charging you, you are always free to leave. So, I'd leave.
@@nicklibby3784 I agree. Plea deals are a top reason that some innocents confess to crimes. I just wouldn't say anything. That frustrates their tactics and leaves them nothing to work with or twist. I also would not consent to a lie detector test.
@@bec7080 same in fort collins Colorado, my dad got wrongly convicted of murder cause they found him smoking a few blocks away from the scene. Such an easy case for them since he had a few petty crimes on his record and mental health problems so he acted like a weirdo. But ofcourse no evidence past that, they just wanted someone to go down for it
haha thats funny @Efeu me too, thats how i based my opinion on the interview, gotta love jcs. they need to do somemore vids, i dnt see them often anymore
It's like arguing with my father. I'm not asking you I'm telling you, always interrupting, and then surprised he doesn't understand anything in 20 years.
"this poor girl was murdered! lets spend five years harassing a man we have no evidence for instead of putting effort in finding the culprit, allowing them to attack again!"
Now with this coronavirus shit, they can actually utilize their police powers to solve some of the unsolved rape and murder cases that get put aside because they wanted to prove a guy had a personal use amount of drugs on him. Maybe they'll learn, but it's not likely. It takes a certain type of person to be a cop, or judge, or prosecutor. Unless they are corrupt, ALL of these people DO believe that it is their RIGHT to force their will onto other people. I know people say there are good cops, and that may be true, but find me ONE that DOESN"T believe that, and I'll give you a cookie!
Seems like cops knew what happened and just had to try to find someone to pin it on. Otherwise it makes no sense. Any junior detective would have known from that first interview that he didn't do it. Seems like some people in that town like to rape kids, and seems like they might wear badges to work.
You.are right, I been arrested twice for drug charges and delt with prosecutors, there worst than used car salesmen, and the cops! I still get pulled over all the time for bullshit reasons and they try to bully me cuz I got a possession charge 7 YEARS AGO, go find some real crimials
Biggest lie from the cops to a suspected murderer: “we are here to help you”. Uhhhhm...NOPE! More like...”we are here to solve this case, by any means necessary, as it will get family members off our azz, and maybe some recognition from our colleagues and/or the media/public. So...we’re gonna need you to confess!” 🤨😔🙄😪
@@dididothat2245 yeah, I hate that shit. Trying anything they can to jam a guy up while lying straight to his face that he’s his only friend. I couldn’t do it. I’m sure they convince themselves they are being assholes for the right reasons, I just don’t think you can turn that on and off at will, especially if you do it all the time.
@@jamesmata2945 Never trust a person with a badge first. Then if they proclaim how honest they are, then you can assume they are lying filth. But no, anyone else who has to proclaim their honesty, is a prime candidate for a confidence trickster.
It makes me so sad for our “system”, like WTF?!?! I know that if I was EVER pulled in, I would NOT speak without a lawyer, and I’m not even a criminal!!
I feel so incredibly bad for Ray. Him sitting there in that first interview being told he did it, over and over, you can see the breath leave his body out of sadness, fear and frustration. Poor guy lost his whole life because the police were too lazy to find another suspect. Absolutely heartbreaking to watch.
Yeah you can always be 100% sure that they only got you there to help themselves. A police interview is only about 1 thing, them gathering evidence to use against you. People think the police want to hear your story if you are innocent, they don't. You saying you're innocent don't count for shit in their eyes. In fact if you explain why you are innocent all they will be looking for is the slightest discrepancy they can use to twist the facts to make it look like you're lying, even if you are telling the truth. Even if they do genuinely think you're innocent they will still look for a way to prove you guilty. Otherwise why else would they have you there for? Horrible horrible people, they try to make out like they're all about helping and saving lives, but you know there's something very wrong about that when they achieve it by ruining others. Its all just smoke and mirrors designed to make them appear as hero's so the masses will accept them as their protectors. There is much power in that.
Poor bastard. Those cops took everything from him to protect their egos. And then the one that said he didn’t feel like he owed him an apology. Disgusting.
If you are genuinely innocent then its even more necessary to shut up as you will just be giving the cops and prosecutor the details of what your defence would be if you did go to court. Then they'd have months to work on the best course to dispute your version of events. its no different to a war, you wouldn't tell your enemy details of your strategy months in advance and still expect to win.
Good cuz this dirt bag is burning in hell for making someone's life miserable. This is a case of cop lying just to put someone behind bars for his suspicions. This is abuse of power and he's getting Soul tortured in hell like he deserves.
The absolute worst police interrogation I've ever witnessed. No wonder that town has a high crime rate....."this case is solved, all we need you to do is confess" was their whole investigative plan.
@@punkybrewstar83 I say this as someone whose family is mostly law enforcement and thus knows a ton of law enforcement. The biggest mistake folks make with police is thinking the majority are either the saints and bastions of justice like freaking Superman, or all complete POS scumbags who just wanna crack skulls and use authority to persecute people. Most cops are just folks doing a job. It's like any job really, there's some folks who really want to do it right and get things done as best as possible, and a LOT of folks who just want their paycheck, and then a few assholes. The problem is with police work, like in this case, someone just doing it for the paycheck, looking for the easiest solution to get their job 'finished' costs people their lives. It's not malevolence (in MOST cases) it's indifference .
@@TonySamedi Indifference and refusal to admit your mistake or budge your position is malevolent if it destroys people's lives. Seen it my whole life. On a personal note, 28 December last year I was assaulted with a sledgehammer by a man called Richard Mills. Richard Mills and Richard Walker had stolen my grandmother's keys from her rental and left the site unsecure with wide open windows. After a day of ignored calls, I loaded the painting shit in my car, and drove to their house. I put plaster on Richies car because I could hear him laughing at me inside. He came out, dragged me inside, and assaulted me. The strike to my forehead gave me a concussion, and I had a large, obvious bump on my head. I also said upon the police arrival that Richie had struck me with the sledgehammer. The white, male police officers, Joseph Le Fleming Burrow and Mitchell Cattell, from the Mount Wellington NZ police, arrested me for willful damage, and put me in handcuffs, and threatened me in the car on the way to the station because I was nauseous, forcing me to swallow my own vomit. I didn't get any medical assistance for 3 hours. Nothing happened to white, male, Richard Mills. When I finally got the disclosure, Joseph Le Fleming Burrows had written that I said I hurt my head on the car. Laziness or not, it is pure evil.
His mistake. They did not deserve any respect. They didn't care about evidence, they had a "gut feeling" and that was reason enough to absolutely destroy a man. Even worse, because they were focused on the wrong man a serial child killer walked free and other children were at risk of being killed. These men should lose their jobs, at the minimum. There has to be a point in society where we say there is NO EVIDENCE. That means you STOP.
The fact that his own family deserted him and his son barely talks to him even after the real killer was found and he was released is so sad to me. Even his family is unwilling to open their eyes and see that they were wrong. I feel for him.
I hate those interviews. "You did it!" "What evidence do you have?" "You tell us!" "I was at home." "No you weren't!" "Where was I then?" "YoU TeLl Us!" They didn't even try to make any sort of connection.
When he stood up & started freaking out...I said: ”THAT’S what I would have done if I KNEW I didn't do something that they were trying to pin on me!!” If he had a lot of money to fight the case (a GOOD defense attorney) he probably never would have went in for anything. Poor guy!! The ”save my face” pal owes him a huge apology!! I wonder if he ever got one.
When @7:57 Bad Cop said “I’m a laughing stock around here.” I said out loud: “This ain’t about you, you little baby!” He botched the case, he SHOULD be the laughing stock.
It would have been so good if that guy had fired back "how are you going to look if you convict the wrong man on zero evidence only to find the real killer months down the road?"
I live in a town of 700 people I don't know most of them it's so frustrating that even after they caught the horrible man who killed that poor little girl they still tried to make a connection between them this is so upsetting not only was that girls family destroyed but so was Raymond's life and still is hope he finds peace in his life
They wanted to connect them because the cops invented evidence and faked videos footage during Raymond's perjury trial, so they were trying to make a connection to cover their crimes.
That man saying hes still proud he put an innocent man in prison and ruined his life is disgusting. They had a chance to someehat redeem themselves but chose to just assert how ignorant they are..shameful
@Denis Litvinov they are lazy and they want to do their jobs? Lol. This is absolutely a case of cops being dicks. They are not always dicks. When I was a teenager, I was arrested for curfew with weed on me. That cop could have ruined my future by charging me with posession. He didn't and I was able to get student loans and create a good life for myself. Please stop generalizing. If I said all (insert group here) were the same, you would absolutely not agree with my statement.
I watched a documentary series on people on death row. I was totally shocked at the detectives one-track minds. You’d learn about these people and their crimes, and really get a good understanding of how this human being had come to be where they were. Some were clearly accidents, wrong place/wrong time with a shitty friend or acquaintance, honestly had been raised not to know much better, or had mitigating factors (like mountains of evidence of sexual abuse before one kid snapped and killed his abuser). These detectives ALL discounted any and all evidence or testimony (from very credible witnesses, too) in the suspect’s favor, while basically (and sometimes literally!) falsifying or twisting evidence- *because they’re a bad guy.* They called the people “pure evil” basically no matter what. There’s no gray area, everyone’s just evil or not evil... and who cares what happens to the “evil” ones? (And theyre always evil according to the detectives, of course). I can understand why it might be necessary in that job to not second guess yourself or let yourself see any humanity in a suspect, but when they’re proven innocent after the facfrsor got extremely unfair deals and you still say you don’t regret ANYTHING? That freaks me out.
@@dontmindme633 even at the cost of "image"? i mean i know i have my doubts with Kurt Cobain, but "he was a junkie" so no none seemed to have given a f&*.. but i mean this guy here.. he's not a millinoaire/rockstar.. just minding his own business n shit.. it's crazy they would go as far as they went. almost on purpose.. i am looking at this case of the cops pulling over a tractor in Alberta and injuring a yound teenage farmer.. my mind is just .. have no words at what people endure...
@@cl1cka the cops and prosecutors should be in prison. All their assets should be sold and all their savings and whats been put towards their pension should be put towards the pay towards the falsely improsoned victim.
@@abccanada6248 They'd start moaning about how they're afraid to do their job, but they obviously aren't doing their job if they're pushing to put an innocent man in jail.
@@jeanettec30 Yup. Frigging cops. It's easier for them to frame an innocent man than to do the difficult detective work necessary to find the real culprit.
How many more little girls got killed by the real killer when the wrong guy was in prison ? They have no interest in finding the guy because they know who it is.
I live in branch county, just shy of a mile from St Joseph County. The cops are either corrupt or just don't give a shit. Another cold case (Brittany Shank) has yet to be solved. I as well as others have been trying to solve it on our own. So far I've found a phone belonging to ***** on the very road she was last seen running down before going missing. I also found an empty hole in the woods with a rusted shovel laying next to it. The closest area nearby to conceal a body and or murder someone. I had also found videos of him walking through the woods. And he just so happened to have conflict of interest. According to a source, Brittany had worked at a Marathon Gas Station that he had robbed and at that time she knew who he was.
the thing that gets me you tell them the truth over and over and they keep saying to you tell me the truth. all they want is to get you to admit it by pressuring you to confess. so they don’t have to do their job by looking for evidence to who really did it.
Cam Mackay he plead No Contest. I’m surprised he got any money in the suit. He was a suspect and it sucks what they did to him, but he took a plea on the charge.
Yes dmn right +, they have the right to judge you for lawyering up n not spe aking,well now we completely see n understnd why How dare they put innocent folks inside😢😰😓❇️🕊️🌴🕯️✳️🙏
What they got him on was something he said the day of the incident and was not in interrogation, it was just om a report. And then 6yrs later when asked he left out (forgot) a few details. So even if he'd lawyered up they could have likely got him. The cops literally invented evidence to convict him, that was proved during his lawsuit against the cops.
No, he doesn't, "deserve" anything. The police charged him with perjury even though he told the truth. He should be paid a large amount of money so he can try to start his life again. What he deserves is JUSTICE. Those police were the ones committing perjury, their lies destroyed a man's life and if the legal system can jail a man on false charges then the officers should be in prison in Gen Pop, so they can experience what happens to dirty cops in prison.
@@Smooshes786 Considering they let every criminal out with a slap on the wrist! Money is the only form of any kind of accountability here unfortunately. But it's like this in Europe and other Countries too! Not like we are the only ones who like money. Actually in Europe their sentencing for crimes is way less! It's quite disturbing. Seems we are heading that way too, which is sad, idiotic, and overall just a horrible idea. We need to be tougher on Crime! Not easier.
I don't think that's the second worse thing, both are relatively on par in terms of egregiousness. While incarcerated, innocent people they get abused in prison, some end up dying there. Plus even after some of the wrongfully convicted are finally vindicated and released (in many cases homeless and penniless), many of them still deal with the lost of public trust, resources, family, time, the stigma of the conviction of their record, etc. And speaking of that conviction, many courts don't automatically remove it or amend it on your official record. Many still have to drudge up legal resources and go to court to legally get it removed. So try applying for anything from public assistance to jobs to housing, etc. with that still showing up on your record. If your are literally walking around with the papers showing you have been legally absolved from the crime, your life is still f**ked.
This is horrible. So horrible. That man was villainised, targeted and jailed for 20 months for something he didn’t do. He suffered so mentally and lost time he will never get back. To put him through that is one thing but then to show no remorse or apology after he is vindicated makes it even worse. I’m so so sorry for him.
Imagine being arrested for murder because you were in a search party and the body was discovered where you suggested to search. That's it. How tf.....i swear stories more and more often where ppl try and help only backfire.
@blahblahblah mememe especially parents are treated like suspects for not joining in searches yet in most cases they dont want to b the one to find a kid in a bad way, or to find them and be under suspicion for 'knowing' where... n also they have to b there to answer phone calls etc
So with no physical evidence, his only mistake was being right when he suggested she might be in the cemetery. Huge injustice here. Just cops looking for a quick solution to close the case.
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 honestly, it's so common for cops to force a conviction to get it off the books it's ridiculous. Fucking shame integrity died at some point.
Happens every day, multiple times! The system is broken and has been for a very long time! Power and money corrupts and when your system is based off money there really is only 1 evolutionary path for it. Cops are crooked, judges are crooked, DA are crooked. The system is a scam!
So stupid for them to zone in on him just for a suggestion. That's why I never suggest anything. He literally said, ``has anyone looked over there,'' they looked over there, found her, and said, ``you did it.'' Wow. It was just a suggestion. Cemeteries are sort of park-like, some people like going to them, IDK, why not check? I have taken a little stroll thru a couple cemeteries in my life for no reason, just a nice day . . .it's not so weird, is it?!
LESismore seriously. Never waivers, never shows signs of being defensive. Never shakes his head in opposition to his yes or no answers. Instantly argues to the opposite of what they’re accusing him of without hesitation, because he doesn’t need to think of a lie. If he’s guilty he fooled me.
Phew, I’m a pretty bad judge of character, and hate when I can’t tell when someone is lying or untrustworthy. This guy seems innocent to me, and I was wondering what other people’s instincts were telling them 😅
He was awarded $40,000 by Michigan (under a law that compensates the wrongly convicted). He filed a lawsuit in December of 2019, and yes he is suing the police (don't think anything has happened with this yet).
He lied in his 911 call too, claimed he crashed because of a coughing fit and not all the booze he'd had. Shows the kind of low morals the prosecution had here.
This case just made me mad- mad for Ray who's life got ruined bc those officers didn't want to admit being wrong, mad that the little girl didn't get justice sooner bc of the incompetency of the police, and mad that the officers made it so people can look at this and think even worse of law enforcement. RIP Jodi. You deserved better.
What lol?? the guy was arrested for perjury not the murder. He lied to detectives, his motive for lying was never uncovered. That’s an obvious implication, especially considering he told people to look in the place her body was found.
675 Dreamer Ray didn’t lie. The police lied. The video “evidence” used to convict him did not show what they said it did. That is why his conviction was vacated in 2017.
@@675_Dreamer I know he was arrested for perjury. But because of the constant interrogations and allegations his life essentially fell apart... all while the police knowingly went after the man they had no actual evidence on, hence why they couldn't arrest him for murder. I understand they need to do their job and interrogate all suspects. But to try and arrest him on circumstantial evidence at best is disheartening to say the least.
@@marythomas1198 I don't disagree. It's sad that someone wasn't there to watch out for her. But I know many people who've been raised in neighborhoods and would go riding their bike with their friends and told to come home when the lights come on. Until something like this happens and impacts peoples lives personally, I don't think anyone expects to have a killer in their suburban mom neighborhood.
Raymond says, “I was doing my job …” and he was; ironically, the other cops weren’t. Had they investigated the scene where her body was found, they may have found more evidence. Raymond was / is a better investigator/cop than they’ll ever be. Frightening how such a slip-shod investigation can qualify as actual police work. So glad he was proven innocent as he always claimed.
Watching this with only a vague knowledge of the incident and no knowledge that they caught the actual guy, he just seems 100% innocent. His seems completely genuine and it's so upsetting watching it when I completely believe him. Also, if he was on PlayStation, couldn't they have checked that?
@@jennifermaddy2442 They arent cops because they want to serve the public and ensure justice prevails, no, it's just a job. Police officers will often cut corners and skip steps, because they can't work overtime - gotta pick up the kids from school so if that means an innocent person goes to jail, oh well!
Imagine your whole life being destroyed for something you never did. He lost his entire life, family, reputation, and opportunities. He should be paid at least $10 million for what he went through.
@@robyndaniels1381 lmao the cop literally told him he wasn't a bad person and that he did it in the same breath. Those cops are the definitions of incompetency.
I lived in Constantine and this event is still something people generally don't like to talk about. Some people thought it could have been a trucker driving through and is largely why the township voted to have a bypass go around the town.
I know of one who did. She said it was the time when she "thought" she was wrong, but ended up being right and it was the "thinking she was wrong" that ended up being the "actual wrong".
Sad but true. They never admit it and they are never held to account. That's usually the case when it comes to police violence and also in cases like this and even if they do bad stuff like this, they still wonder why some people just don't like or trust them. What a mystery...
Watch the innocence project on Netflix. You are 100% correct! They don't even apologize when they ruin a person's life. They think they're so damned perfect and everyone else is a criminal
Bruh i can't begin to imagine the levels of anger and hopelessness he felt when not a single person believed anything he said. All from him saying "well we checked everywhere except the graveyard."
Yep and for the simple reason that they'd already checked everywhere else - parks, schools, roadsides, etc - eventually someone going to say 'what about the cemetery.' In another comment someone said about no wonder this town has such a high crime rate: useless cops.
Yeah it was a shame he was so honest really. Otherwise he could have just said some weird acting guy came up to him while he was out searching telling him to try the cemetery. Would have saved himself a whole lot of problems.
All of his behavior through the interrogations screams he's innocent. Poor guy. Just trying to be helpful trying to do what he can to find his niece..and these fricken cops!!
When a detective tells you they already have everything they need, so you may as well tell them everything. Your response should always be "Then charge me." Because they have NOTHING
The one detective says everyone is laughing at him. So he wants this guy to admit he murdered a little girl so his coworkers quit making fun of him? Seems legit
I was half listening to this and half playing a game and when I heard that part of the interrogation I stopped the game I was playing turning my sole focus to the video and just sat in disbelief of how stupid that detective sounded saying that
All emotional manipulation tactics. Isolate them, get them vulnerable, scare them, lie to them, threaten them, appeal to their decency, tell them you know they're not bad, things just got out of hand...sometimes they manage to get innocent people to confess this way. Seems what it's designed for, because it's certainly a lousy way to find the truth.
Ya this is some of the worst I've seen. The case where the disabled wife was charged with the brutal murder of her husband and she was found bound in the closet. Those interrogators were shitty. They leaned and berated her because they had no other leads. She's in prison and I truly don't think she's guilty
Unreal. Imagine throwing someone in prison and ruining their life, then saying you don't owe them an apology when they're proven innocent. Someone fire that officer.
By the way, the names of the officers involved in this case are Constantine Police Chief James Bedell, Constantine officer Marcus Donker, St. Joseph County Sheriff’s Detective Sgt. Lonnie Palmer and MSP Lt. Shane Criger. Let's not let these investigators die of old age without having to answer for their own horrible crimes committed against this innocent man.
Do you have the phone # for this police station? I can't find it. I'd like to make a few phone calls. This is disgusting. I wanted to reach through the phone and ring that cops neck!!!
You should put up and spread any twitter profiles/facebook profiles you can find on any of them or the police station itself. They are a bastardized version of justice.
One year after former Police Chief James Bedell said that he owed no apology to Raymond McCann, he passed away from cancer. I'm fairly certain that cancer won't be apologizing anytime soon.
Hmmm karma, He could have said I'm sorry that we made a mistake or something but we were trying to find justice for this girl! And the fact that his behavior made him a suspect.
How bloody awful. I can't imagine the pain and unbearable grief. It's just absolutely mind numbing, having to go through that for anyone. I feel very very sad and disgusted. I'm sure as HUMAN BEINGS, we're not supposed to suffer like this!!!!😪😪😫
I was thinking the same thing. This guy was so obviously being honest, showing all of the signs, and I too would love to see JCS break down his interrogation
Courts too - 20 years for perjury? What did he perjure? Not knowing his exact whereabouts within 10 minutes of everywhere he went that day down to a T? For people wanting to convict him of that for 20 years I say tell them where you were August 10, 1996 and you better get EVERYTHING RIGHT - where you were, how long you were there, when you left, when you arrived at the next place down to a T or face 20 years.
Man, the cops aren't even close to the worst. Look at prosecutors, those folks are some of the most vile people you'll find in the whole justice system
@@scouser2010ify Locked in a cage with animals after loosing everything! There would be no acceptable dollar value. Id be looking for some payback. But to throw $$$ at it ..... id say $50 million.
Well thats a classic move to coax someone suspected into a confession. If you know you didnt do anything youd see these motives and moves especially if you are a cop
I think a vast majority of detectives do absolutely want the truth. There are a small minority who just want to close a case (I was one of those that got a criminal record for something I didn't do but it was a minor case).
Society is a game. Currently on pause. Because: failing economies.. Expensive industries needed a reset. And the deedsDIRTYdeeds of the elite... All getting wiped while the people are under house arrest. They said we live in a free society. Whose in control..... SUCKER.
Exactly. They don't care who they put in prison. As long as they can close the case, is all that matters to some of them. Mean while the guilty one gets a good head start to get far away.
And that department nearly ruined that case. McKenzie was told to "shut up" by a Police Officer interviewing her at the scene. They said they didn't believe her and McKenzie's mother had to constantly call the Cops and to look into that man more until they finally did to appease her. He was not arrested right away and if she didn't go to the Police, and her Mother didn't hammer away at it saying he was a bad guy, he would have walked.
Brave? How is she brave for not wanting to be dead? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If she wens BACK to the old man with the intent to collect evidence against him, that would be bravery. Avoiding rape and murder is the most basic animal instinct we have. That's NOT bravery, going against it at your peril IS bravery. Get out of here with that shit.
really? that's good. Can't stand child killers, can't stand egoistic unrepentant cops even more. I think he has a solid case against them, unless of course the courts are also as egoistic and in cahoots with the cops to save face about the justice system in America
I wonder if the detective had personal feelings involved in the case which might have clouded their judgment like idk which is worst, to leave a disturbing case like this unsolved or to destroy someones life who didnt do anything , congratulations for police for making shit worst then it already was its not enough that a girl was found dead i cant even imagine how her family is going through yet rhey had to drag a guy that had nothing to do with it and shame him and his family and distroy his life cause they where desperate to close a case they didnt care for the truth they just wanted a case closed..wtf
@@binarytree7316 The cops never really believed Raymond McCann was the killer. They never had any intention of finding the right killer. The only thing they wanted was a conviction.
Ironically, he was the only righteous Cop in the room during those interrogations. FYI in 2023 he was fully exonerated and awarded 14.3 million from the state.
Wow, those "interrogations" are embarrassing to watch... this police department was clearly in way over their heads. Call the professionals in next time, guys, because this was just pathetic to watch. With their poor form, real killers could be getting away.
Fawn Whisperer it’s awful. He sat through hours of the same inane questioning, it’s unbelievable the hours wasted. He had real patience. I would have knocked at least one of them out and got in a heap of trouble
@@rhmhnn9526 yes I went to prison for 4 years cause I got caught up with a residue baggie that wasn't mine only due to the fact that I didn't pay my fines AFTER A misdemeanor
"We have the.... things all there. I wont go through all the all we have, just know its ALL of it, but I cant tell you any of the all, but it's a LOT. We cant tell you about the lots, but its SO MANY evidences, all in one big bit"
Note to self: Never be apart of local search parties or go looking randomly because you're screwed if the missing persons body is found where you look or suggest when the detectives have no other leads. This is hard to watch. ALWAYS ask for a lawyer. They will always say how suspicious it looks when you do ask for one, but oh well.
How true. Makes you never want to be a part of a search for fear of being falsely accused if you find the body or it's found where you suggested it might be. That man lost everything. His wife, kids, jobs and had to endure prison. Even his own family didn't believe him. Awful.
Suspicions be damned, no one in the police force is your friend. It's their job to find criminals, not upstanding citizens. It's just facts. Ask if you're being detained, ask for a lawyer. Even if it's just a public defender, it gets someone in that room who's actually going to have your back.
Thats why people including me don't help people. They get fucked! People in china are so scared to help because of scams i have seen a video of a child ran over multiple times because truckers couldn't see her and people walked by like it was another day.
I admit, it was a bit weird how he knew the place where she'd be at but it makes sense if he knew children often play there and he was a cop so patrolling he probably knew that. They did look everywhere too but the way he said it.. It's just weird man.
He made the cop look stupid , laughing in his face when he was said to be lying about his whereabouts 😂. What a POS , “I’m the laughing stock of the office” this isn’t about you this should’ve been about justice not ego. Disgusting police work , truly shameful
Ok, you all do know that that was just an interrogation tactic, right? It was just another ploy to try to get him to trust him so that he might confess. Classic 'good cop, bad cop' rhetoric.
That cop was a legit moron, expecting him to be like “oh no, laughing stock of the office? If I confess will it make things better for you at the water cooler? Ok, I did it.”
I love here Mike's story's because he's not afraid at to just tell the raw truth. Not afraid to cuss, he just tells it like it is. So sorry for that poor girl. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Of course ! He volunteered to look for the file but he became a criminal and rapist. he was all over the news for rapist and murderer! I’m sure his time in prison was not good as well! I don’t get why did prosecutors went after him without solid! He asked the community if they searched the cemetery because every where was searched except cemetery ! He was a cop as well so he knew what to look for ! They ruined his life and hurt his family rela
@Lisa Wilson My heart is breaking too for all his suffering both past and present. I can't imagine going through this type of situation without losing my mind.
"He was acting very weird after discovering the body of a 12 year old girl!" Uh, please tell me how one is supposed to act after seeing something like that? Ray was proven innocent after being wrongly convicted, lost literally everything in the process and yet these cowards still can't admit they were wrong and apologize to him.
“Acting strangely” isnt a real thing, its cop slang. If the killer was really acting “strange” it would be so obvious that you wouldent even have to say it, the dude would be freaking out everyone and everyone, not just the cop who made that statement
The wrongly accused deserve an apology in the very least, but I bet if the accusers apologize, they open themselves up for lawsuits. It's a shitty thing but that is what happens when this country is full of lawyers looking to make a buck. This guy's life was ruined in his prime and I pray he can bounce back. There are many examples of false accusations ruining lives all over the world. So sad.
made me extremely mad when that cop was like "no, i dont owe him an apology" like dude....you ruined his life and threw him in prison for over a year, you really do owe that innocent man an apology
For sexual assault and murdering of a child. Prisoners are humans as well
Cops are psychopaths.
dudes such a pos shit, stupid fucking pride
@Bryan-Michael Dungee obviously he deserved a more trusting wife
Yeah... screw that cop.. this is why people hate cops. If this were a just universe this cop would lose his pension and be facing jail time himself.
This is why even innocent people, should talk to the police with their lawyer present.
If you don’t want to look guilty just remain silent until trial
@@Omni-Blast if he had asked for an attorney at the beginning none of this would of happened
Right!! Sad thing is u could have a idea that could help the case but u can't say shit...I'll die b4 I talk to cops.
The idea that getting a lawyer makes you guilty/seem guilty is pure propaganda tbh
NO talking =No perjury charge.
Wow. This is terrifying. They basically ruined his life with ZERO evidence.
It happens so often. The process is mental abuse.
This happens very often
just another day in law enforcement.
basically? they did
Yes this does happen way too much I’ll never understand why they just wanna close a case! No evidence no anything but ego and while the whole time the real criminals are out and about the sad part is they know this!
Can we just take a second to appreciate that the little girl not only escaped and then got that bastard convicted, but ended up solving the murder of another little girl?
She’s a hero!
I thought the same thing. She's a little bad ass
Totally!!!
Absolute boss! Hope all the bedr for her.
Ok but please stop giving victims more credit for “fighting for their lives.” Victims are victims and depending on the circumstances, sometimes you might want to try your appease your attacker. How about we focus on stopping the MEN from attack king others, especially children.
@@cruisepaige what the hell are you even talking about. Nobody said other victims are cowards, and nobody said anything about males or females. We should highlight and commend victims who fight for their lives and in the process, end up convicting killers and solving cases.
What a ridiculous take lol
They destroyed his whole life. He lost his job, family, reputation and lastly his freedom. Took 10 years of his life. I believe this man is owed millions of $
I couldn't agree more. There are many things thats bothers me. But injustice is maybe the number one. Happy 2021
He only got $40,000 what a shame
@@donerae8682 And that was probably taxed half. He needs to sue for millions
@@richardwolfe844 hopefully u get off papers soon
@@richardwolfe844 well you committed a armed robbery. You didn’t do “nothing” you aren’t a victim.i got in a bar fight and did 4 years. I’m not crying and I have never blamed any one but myself. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. You are the exact reason you don’t do crimes with anyone else because you’d justify snitching on your codefendant lmao
Almost nothing gets more under my skin than a shitty interrogator.
And this one is bottom-of-the-barrel.
He was terrible.
@@ayyubvernon1557 he’s definitely a laughing stock now, what a bum
I know you didn't mean to do it , it was an accident, I know you're a good guy 🙄
I was thinking the same thing.
@@smmacktalk The whole department isn't a laughing stock - it's actually a modern day example of how police work is NOT supposed to happen. Hearing those confirmed idiot so-called "detectives" try to force a false confession should be played for students in criminal justice courses to show how interrogations can lead to false confessions. Because police actually are trained to deceive when necessary but outright total lies based on no FACTS whatsoever can often lead to false confessions and other legal issues that can destroy a case.
“I’m the laughing stock of this whole department”.
Boy do I have some news for you.
Immediately blaming the person who happened to suggest looking where you found her is just giving people reasons NOT to help, because heaven forbid they get something right and help so well that you find them!
THIS!! This is why ppl hesitate to help police. Bc they do this, even to their own. Now, I personally think ACAB, but damn.
@@jadeamodio82why would you think acab? That’s just beyond ignorant
Because police are allowed to lie when interviewing suspects..?all this b.s about how they have all this evidence, but they couldnt tell him,,,l would have lawyered up immediately. evidence@trgiun
@@trgiun you can have your opinion based on your life experiences and I’ll have mine. Enjoy your day.
@@jadeamodio82 sure. Wish you could’ve explained as I asked, but have a good day too
Omg, Ray only got $40,000 in compensation for the abuse he suffered at the hands of law enforcement. That wouldn’t even cover his wages for the time he was incarcerated, let alone the suffering and loss of everything in his life?
only 40k? lol... Should have been at least 500k
He is suing for damages.
And what’s even more sad, the officers who did that to him don’t have to turn in their badge. They continue to get away with doing this to innocent lives you can’t fix a f up that bug with any amount
He needs a good new york lawyer to sue the pathetic ex cop who wouldnt apologize and the joker cop who said he was the laughing stock of his station...for 5mil
@@ludwigvonn9889 that was there point lol, that’s why they said he only got $40k even after they ruined his life. But yeah, should have been more than $500k too/:
His body language is clear, he is telling the truth. This is hard to watch, horrible detectives.
Very sad! The cop is lying his ass off.
Seriously, he's maintaining constant eye contact and he's not giving any tells.
Yep. Anyone that knows anything about body language can tell he’s innocent. As a detective they should have noticed that but they were more interested in “solving” the case than finding the truth. So pathetic. I wish those detectives could be charged with something but I’m sure they can’t and they will get to walk around with their stupid, low iq grins on their face.
I agree. I had a very hard time watching it myself, I felt so horrible for him. I was also horrified that t the police and the judicial system were able to convict him so easily and for so long for perjury. This could happen to anyone.
Everyone experts after they know the truth. You must be smarter than everyone else. I'm only human, I would have thought he did it. Now, I know I could be wrong.
Wow, the fact that the Ex Police Chief just shows zero guilt for likely knowingly convicting an innocent man and ruining his life for YEARS is infuriating. Stuff like that makes my blood absolutely boil
I REALLY hope this fool will get wrongfully imprisoned one day and see how it feels. Meh. I'll protest to keep him in there.
You'd think that Raymond McCann would have a nice, fat lawsuit lined up after all of this.
Vespairr ATTORNEY OR LAWYER! Once you’ve answered the questions and cooperated, yet it still obvious they’re completely laser focused on you and aren’t being open minded regarding looking at other theories. Yes it’s time to say those magical words, I want a LAWYER please. It made me literally sick as they went on because I could feel that he was innocent.
@Ben Siener No it isn't over. His life is ruined, his name is tarnished until the day he dies.
This triggered me too. Horrible.
They interviewed over 1,000 people in this case in a town of 4,000, AND STILL failed to interview the real creep. Smfh. Such incompetence. Chief Laughingstock should've had HIS life and reputation ruined.
Chief laughingstock 😊
“I’m the laughing stock of the police station”. Sorry if my truth is messing up your personal life. I’ll just go to prison for years & years so that you’ll be comfortable.
No there is no your/his/mine truth. He was speaking THE truth. Ray was speaking THE truth
Well, he did deserve to be the laughing stock, didn't he? Whiner.
Mich Ritch 😂😉You walked right into that one kid 😉😂
"Hey mate I'm really embarrassed. Just tell me what I want to hear so I can wipe this egg of my face. I'll back you up like always. I'm a police officer and I never lie."
Clang goes the cell door.
"Ha ha sucked in. See you in 20 years loser."
Cops, ya gotta love em.
YES! Exactly what I was thinking!! Like, wtf?! 🤦🏻♀️
Probably the worst detectives I've seen on any if these shows
But you have seen them..
Agreed.
Yeah the county is tiny and never sees this kind of stuff. They're incompetent enough when it comes to petty crimes so doesn't surprise me how bad they fumbled this
Inbred...
Inspector gadget is more of a detective
Repeat after me: " I don't answer questions without my lawyer present."
And even then don't answer. They were obviously hoping to make a case against him, so why make their job any easier. Ask if you are being charged, and if not ask if you are free to leave.
LAWYER UP!
This! Always this!
Yes, lawyer up, but being stern with police does not end well (for poor people), as far as I've seen. Also, if they want to pin it on you, it will ALMOST CERTAINLY stick, and you will be convicted of the crime. It truly, is not about the guilty person being convicted and punished for their actions.
I been waiting for him to get up and tell them leave me alone and do your fucking jobs. Then just leave. Completely unjustified what happened to him
This video was really hard to watch. That poor man. I can't imagine the helpless feeling and terror he went through. All he did was try to help find her and because he was a reserve he had access to cuffs he must have done it. Anyone can get cuffs! My heart breaks for him and I haven’t finished the video but I pray he's doing ok now 🙏 😔 ❤
For the first time watching one of Mike’s videos, I had to fast forward through much of the interviews, particularly the last one. Felt sick for this honest, pleading man.
This is why even when you’re innocent GET A LAWYER AND DON’T TALK TO COPS!!!!!
I guess he felt that being totally innocent he wouldn't need any council. I probably wouldn't get a Lawyer either, dumb move considering this, it's just that it would be the last thing on my mind if i didn't do something.
@@mariestreeting9145 That's what most people think, "If I'm innocent, I'll just talk to them and clear my name". The only thing is, they're after convictions and confessions and not necessarily the truth (not all of them, of course, but likely most). A lot of innocent people have been convicted and have confessed to things they didn't do. It's the tactics they use that coerce false confessions. Nobody thinks they'd confess to something they didn't do, but it happens all the time. If they get a confession, they get a conviction. Anyway, if you ever are questioned, exercise your Miranda right to remain silent and immediately ask for an attorney. Don't say anything without the attorney present. Even with an attorney, I'd probably still remain silent. They can't do anything with that. And, if they're not charging you, you are always free to leave. So, I'd leave.
*ESPECIALLY* when you're innocent.
ESPECIALLY when you're INNOCENT! :D
@@nicklibby3784 I agree. Plea deals are a top reason that some innocents confess to crimes. I just wouldn't say anything. That frustrates their tactics and leaves them nothing to work with or twist. I also would not consent to a lie detector test.
"Constantine had a comparitavely high crime rate". Big surprise with the clowns passing for police around there.
They don't care about actually solving crimes, just getting a quick resolution
I came here to the comments to say that exact thing!
@@bec7080 same in fort collins Colorado, my dad got wrongly convicted of murder cause they found him smoking a few blocks away from the scene. Such an easy case for them since he had a few petty crimes on his record and mental health problems so he acted like a weirdo. But ofcourse no evidence past that, they just wanted someone to go down for it
Cops saying"there are lies here" there certainly is coming right out of cops dam mouths!!!!!!!
That hurts, I just passed as a police here in Constantine. Guess I’m a clown aswell 😩🤡😩🤡
Have seen enough JCS to see that this guy is not guilty. Poor him, it's hard to watch.
Efeu yeah I skipped half the video because of this... couldn’t handle it. I wish he asked for a lawyer and refused to answer anymore questions.
Sorry to ask.What is jsc?Cheers in advance.
@@mangusta800 its a guy who can't swim. His name is Jim
haha thats funny @Efeu me too, thats how i based my opinion on the interview, gotta love jcs. they need to do somemore vids, i dnt see them often anymore
100% agree. The fact the he gets so pissed off and never changes his story says it all.
It's like arguing with my father. I'm not asking you I'm telling you, always interrupting, and then surprised he doesn't understand anything in 20 years.
OMG. I wondered why (other than the obvious) that this interview was so triggering.
Do we have the same “father”?!
"this poor girl was murdered! lets spend five years harassing a man we have no evidence for instead of putting effort in finding the culprit, allowing them to attack again!"
Cops taking the easy way out... we can make this shit stick ... they thought he’d cave if they keep bullying him! Lawyers people call you a lawyer.
Now with this coronavirus shit, they can actually utilize their police powers to solve some of the unsolved rape and murder cases that get put aside because they wanted to prove a guy had a personal use amount of drugs on him. Maybe they'll learn, but it's not likely. It takes a certain type of person to be a cop, or judge, or prosecutor. Unless they are corrupt, ALL of these people DO believe that it is their RIGHT to force their will onto other people. I know people say there are good cops, and that may be true, but find me ONE that DOESN"T believe that, and I'll give you a cookie!
Seems like cops knew what happened and just had to try to find someone to pin it on. Otherwise it makes no sense. Any junior detective would have known from that first interview that he didn't do it. Seems like some people in that town like to rape kids, and seems like they might wear badges to work.
You.are right, I been arrested twice for drug charges and delt with prosecutors, there worst than used car salesmen, and the cops! I still get pulled over all the time for bullshit reasons and they try to bully me cuz I got a possession charge 7 YEARS AGO, go find some real crimials
With a population that small, they could have found the guy with a DNA sweep in no time.
That cop looking him in the eyes saying “I don’t lie” then proceeds to blatantly lie for the whole interrogation.
Never ever trust a person who say they dont lie.
Biggest lie from the cops to a suspected murderer: “we are here to help you”.
Uhhhhm...NOPE! More like...”we are here to solve this case, by any means necessary, as it will get family members off our azz, and maybe some recognition from our colleagues and/or the media/public. So...we’re gonna need you to confess!”
🤨😔🙄😪
@@dididothat2245 yeah, I hate that shit. Trying anything they can to jam a guy up while lying straight to his face that he’s his only friend. I couldn’t do it. I’m sure they convince themselves they are being assholes for the right reasons, I just don’t think you can turn that on and off at will, especially if you do it all the time.
@@jamesmata2945 Never trust a person with a badge first. Then if they proclaim how honest they are, then you can assume they are lying filth. But no, anyone else who has to proclaim their honesty, is a prime candidate for a confidence trickster.
It makes me so sad for our “system”, like WTF?!?! I know that if I was EVER pulled in, I would NOT speak without a lawyer, and I’m not even a criminal!!
I feel so incredibly bad for Ray. Him sitting there in that first interview being told he did it, over and over, you can see the breath leave his body out of sadness, fear and frustration. Poor guy lost his whole life because the police were too lazy to find another suspect. Absolutely heartbreaking to watch.
A total miscarriage of justice and sickening lack of compensation for an innocent man. :(
The cop died of cancer
@@husk1919 The detective? If so good.
Stop talking and ask for a lawyer.
So many stories on this channel and others show that most false convictions result from police laziness.
What a traumatic thing for Raymond to go through. I hope he will heal fully from this and live to have a happy life.
Winning a $5M law suit should help.
When the detective tells you they want to help you, help yourself and get an attorney.
Yeah you can always be 100% sure that they only got you there to help themselves. A police interview is only about 1 thing, them gathering evidence to use against you. People think the police want to hear your story if you are innocent, they don't. You saying you're innocent don't count for shit in their eyes. In fact if you explain why you are innocent all they will be looking for is the slightest discrepancy they can use to twist the facts to make it look like you're lying, even if you are telling the truth. Even if they do genuinely think you're innocent they will still look for a way to prove you guilty. Otherwise why else would they have you there for? Horrible horrible people, they try to make out like they're all about helping and saving lives, but you know there's something very wrong about that when they achieve it by ruining others. Its all just smoke and mirrors designed to make them appear as hero's so the masses will accept them as their protectors. There is much power in that.
I couldn't agree more with you! Perfectly said
Poor bastard. Those cops took everything from him to protect their egos. And then the one that said he didn’t feel like he owed him an apology. Disgusting.
If you are genuinely innocent then its even more necessary to shut up as you will just be giving the cops and prosecutor the details of what your defence would be if you did go to court. Then they'd have months to work on the best course to dispute your version of events. its no different to a war, you wouldn't tell your enemy details of your strategy months in advance and still expect to win.
The cop that said he wouldn’t issue an apology died from cancer a year later. KARMA
makes me wonder if he had something to do with it and needed someone to blame it on.
good
Good he was a BAD cop.
Good cuz this dirt bag is burning in hell for making someone's life miserable. This is a case of cop lying just to put someone behind bars for his suspicions. This is abuse of power and he's getting Soul tortured in hell like he deserves.
@@patman0250 It's so disgusting. It's like they were more concerned with pinning the crime on SOMEONE than on actually serving justice
The absolute worst police interrogation I've ever witnessed. No wonder that town has a high crime rate....."this case is solved, all we need you to do is confess" was their whole investigative plan.
Absolutely disgusting!!!
Haha 😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is how police normally operate all over the world. Some are good, care, work hard for justice... vast majority are complete POS.
@@punkybrewstar83 I say this as someone whose family is mostly law enforcement and thus knows a ton of law enforcement.
The biggest mistake folks make with police is thinking the majority are either the saints and bastions of justice like freaking Superman, or all complete POS scumbags who just wanna crack skulls and use authority to persecute people.
Most cops are just folks doing a job. It's like any job really, there's some folks who really want to do it right and get things done as best as possible, and a LOT of folks who just want their paycheck, and then a few assholes.
The problem is with police work, like in this case, someone just doing it for the paycheck, looking for the easiest solution to get their job 'finished' costs people their lives.
It's not malevolence (in MOST cases) it's indifference .
@@TonySamedi Indifference and refusal to admit your mistake or budge your position is malevolent if it destroys people's lives. Seen it my whole life. On a personal note, 28 December last year I was assaulted with a sledgehammer by a man called Richard Mills. Richard Mills and Richard Walker had stolen my grandmother's keys from her rental and left the site unsecure with wide open windows. After a day of ignored calls, I loaded the painting shit in my car, and drove to their house. I put plaster on Richies car because I could hear him laughing at me inside. He came out, dragged me inside, and assaulted me. The strike to my forehead gave me a concussion, and I had a large, obvious bump on my head. I also said upon the police arrival that Richie had struck me with the sledgehammer. The white, male police officers, Joseph Le Fleming Burrow and Mitchell Cattell, from the Mount Wellington NZ police, arrested me for willful damage, and put me in handcuffs, and threatened me in the car on the way to the station because I was nauseous, forcing me to swallow my own vomit. I didn't get any medical assistance for 3 hours. Nothing happened to white, male, Richard Mills. When I finally got the disclosure, Joseph Le Fleming Burrows had written that I said I hurt my head on the car. Laziness or not, it is pure evil.
Exactly what I've been thinking! No wonder thier crime rate is completely out of control! Idiots whom I would guess are part of the high crime rate!
He was SO respectful to the police even as they worked tirelessly to frame him. So sad
His mistake. They did not deserve any respect. They didn't care about evidence, they had a "gut feeling" and that was reason enough to absolutely destroy a man. Even worse, because they were focused on the wrong man a serial child killer walked free and other children were at risk of being killed. These men should lose their jobs, at the minimum. There has to be a point in society where we say there is NO EVIDENCE. That means you STOP.
The fact that his own family deserted him and his son barely talks to him even after the real killer was found and he was released is so sad to me. Even his family is unwilling to open their eyes and see that they were wrong. I feel for him.
I wonder if it's pride or guilt.
@@cheepymcpeepy both. Arrogance really.
@Copycat Singers Exposed You're a little slow I see.
@Copycat Singers Exposed He probably wasn't. Now smarten up so you don't end up asking anymore low IQ questions like this.
@Copycat Singers Exposed you try acting normal when your entire family and town thinks you're lower than dirt
I hate those interviews.
"You did it!"
"What evidence do you have?"
"You tell us!"
"I was at home."
"No you weren't!"
"Where was I then?"
"YoU TeLl Us!"
They didn't even try to make any sort of connection.
the 'dossier technique'
The cops care more about convicting someone then convicting the actual perpetrator...
When he stood up & started freaking out...I said: ”THAT’S what I would have done if I KNEW I didn't do something that they were trying to pin on me!!” If he had a lot of money to fight the case (a GOOD defense attorney) he probably never would have went in for anything. Poor guy!! The ”save my face” pal owes him a huge apology!! I wonder if he ever got one.
@Denise Rossiter it's almost like an innocent man got angry about being falsely accused of being a child rapist and murderer...
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
@@seannotconnery8191 That's what she's saying...
When @7:57 Bad Cop said “I’m a laughing stock around here.” I said out loud: “This ain’t about you, you little baby!” He botched the case, he SHOULD be the laughing stock.
It would have been so good if that guy had fired back "how are you going to look if you convict the wrong man on zero evidence only to find the real killer months down the road?"
He was the only one left on the lawsuit, which ruled against him. He’s officially a laughing stock now.
I live in a town of 700 people I don't know most of them it's so frustrating that even after they caught the horrible man who killed that poor little girl they still tried to make a connection between them this is so upsetting not only was that girls family destroyed but so was Raymond's life and still is hope he finds peace in his life
They wanted to connect them because the cops invented evidence and faked videos footage during Raymond's perjury trial, so they were trying to make a connection to cover their crimes.
That man saying hes still proud he put an innocent man in prison and ruined his life is disgusting. They had a chance to someehat redeem themselves but chose to just assert how ignorant they are..shameful
So horrible. Jody's mother saying the McCanns were like family. NOPE! She did not care about the injustice. Must have enjoyed feeling "right"
Trying to save face. He put his reputation above an innocent man's life.
@Denis Litvinov they are lazy and they want to do their jobs? Lol. This is absolutely a case of cops being dicks. They are not always dicks. When I was a teenager, I was arrested for curfew with weed on me. That cop could have ruined my future by charging me with posession. He didn't and I was able to get student loans and create a good life for myself. Please stop generalizing. If I said all (insert group here) were the same, you would absolutely not agree with my statement.
I watched a documentary series on people on death row. I was totally shocked at the detectives one-track minds. You’d learn about these people and their crimes, and really get a good understanding of how this human being had come to be where they were. Some were clearly accidents, wrong place/wrong time with a shitty friend or acquaintance, honestly had been raised not to know much better, or had mitigating factors (like mountains of evidence of sexual abuse before one kid snapped and killed his abuser).
These detectives ALL discounted any and all evidence or testimony (from very credible witnesses, too) in the suspect’s favor, while basically (and sometimes literally!) falsifying or twisting evidence- *because they’re a bad guy.* They called the people “pure evil” basically no matter what. There’s no gray area, everyone’s just evil or not evil... and who cares what happens to the “evil” ones? (And theyre always evil according to the detectives, of course).
I can understand why it might be necessary in that job to not second guess yourself or let yourself see any humanity in a suspect, but when they’re proven innocent after the facfrsor got extremely unfair deals and you still say you don’t regret ANYTHING? That freaks me out.
@@aquanaut4life721 One weed charge prevents you from getting student loans, ever. That one act of kindness allowed me to go to and graduate college.
The egos on these guys. Unbelievable. Can’t even apologize for ruining a mans life.
what's your take on, .. like .. would the pd salvage some honor if they admitted to have been wrong?...
Marc Dufresne yes I think taking responsibility for mistakes made and actually feeling regret would be more honorable.
@@dontmindme633 even at the cost of "image"? i mean i know i have my doubts with Kurt Cobain, but "he was a junkie" so no none seemed to have given a f&*.. but i mean this guy here.. he's not a millinoaire/rockstar.. just minding his own business n shit.. it's crazy they would go as far as they went. almost on purpose.. i am looking at this case of the cops pulling over a tractor in Alberta and injuring a yound teenage farmer.. my mind is just .. have no words at what people endure...
@Amanda Charlebois i agree, I am amazed the cops would go so far just to put someone in jail.. so abusive of them
Honestly felt disgusted when he said that
Could have just apologized and it wouldn’t have cost him nothing
Fucking disgrace
Just because he’s out of prison doesn’t mean his life isn’t ruined. He lost everything...at the hands of the investigators.
Did he get compensated?
Cory Fuqua that’s crazy he should have sued the piss out of that city.
And it's just pure luck he wasn't murdered in prison because they thought he was a child murdered
And I'm sure they lost NO sleep after ruining his life over speculation...
Dude's probably got PTSD from what he endured...no amount of money he wins can erase those memories.
Rewatching the playlist again for my millionth time… this one still ENRAGES me… I’m at work slamming things around…
Should be a mandatory minimum of $1 million a year you're falsely imprisoned with a minimum of $1 million for anything this big.
And it should come off cops/prosecutors salaries...
@@cl1cka the cops and prosecutors should be in prison. All their assets should be sold and all their savings and whats been put towards their pension should be put towards the pay towards the falsely improsoned victim.
@@abccanada6248 They'd start moaning about how they're afraid to do their job, but they obviously aren't doing their job if they're pushing to put an innocent man in jail.
He should file a suit against the cops. They are totally incompetent!
In Texas, for someone exonerated, it's a 1.6M lump plus ~80k per year of incarceration.
If I were Raymond, I'd sue the hell out of the justice system in that town.
The police never solved this... that little girl Mckenzie solved it
they had no intentions on solving this case outside of Ray being the guy.
@@jeanettec30 right
@@jeanettec30 Yup. Frigging cops. It's easier for them to frame an innocent man than to do the difficult detective work necessary to find the real culprit.
How many more little girls got killed by the real killer when the wrong guy was in prison ? They have no interest in finding the guy because they know who it is.
I live in branch county, just shy of a mile from St Joseph County. The cops are either corrupt or just don't give a shit. Another cold case (Brittany Shank) has yet to be solved. I as well as others have been trying to solve it on our own. So far I've found a phone belonging to ***** on the very road she was last seen running down before going missing. I also found an empty hole in the woods with a rusted shovel laying next to it. The closest area nearby to conceal a body and or murder someone. I had also found videos of him walking through the woods. And he just so happened to have conflict of interest. According to a source, Brittany had worked at a Marathon Gas Station that he had robbed and at that time she knew who he was.
the thing that gets me you tell them the truth over and over and they keep saying to you tell me the truth. all they want is to get you to admit it by pressuring you to confess. so they don’t have to do their job by looking for evidence to who really did it.
Trying to force an innocent person to confess to something they didn't do, I actually feel sick watching this.
it just shows you that any of us can end up in this situation.
Lazy police work. We think it’s this guy so let’s badger him until we can get something out of him
You must not watch that many of these crime shows
Yeah, you can feel his frustration and stress. I bet Ray felt sick to his stomach too.
I hope this guy sued the dept for ruining his life..
He did. And only got $40,000.
@@gaaraxnaru that's upsetting. Years of harassment based on zero empirical evidence and a false conviction, he deserved more.
Cam Mackay he plead No Contest. I’m surprised he got any money in the suit. He was a suspect and it sucks what they did to him, but he took a plea on the charge.
@@jholl78 what is tbh
@@jholl78 ok ,right on
A few words: "I want a lawyer." There is no amount of talking yourself out of it if the cops really think it is you.
And if you’re being interrogated they think it’s you.
He was a cop
Yes dmn right +, they have the right to judge you for lawyering up n not spe aking,well now we completely see n understnd why
How dare they put innocent folks inside😢😰😓❇️🕊️🌴🕯️✳️🙏
@@strategic1710 yes or they just wish to pin the crime on someone,no mtter if they're innocent or not They just don't care Wicked
What they got him on was something he said the day of the incident and was not in interrogation, it was just om a report. And then 6yrs later when asked he left out (forgot) a few details. So even if he'd lawyered up they could have likely got him. The cops literally invented evidence to convict him, that was proved during his lawsuit against the cops.
It's terrifying how easily this could happen.
That guy deserves millions for what he went through being accused by everyone labeled a child killer. Wow.
No, he doesn't, "deserve" anything. The police charged him with perjury even though he told the truth. He should be paid a large amount of money so he can try to start his life again. What he deserves is JUSTICE. Those police were the ones committing perjury, their lies destroyed a man's life and if the legal system can jail a man on false charges then the officers should be in prison in Gen Pop, so they can experience what happens to dirty cops in prison.
He got $40,000.
@@davidwhite4874 that's a huge insult!!!! I would of torn up that check in their faces!!!
It’s very sad to me that Justice is money based in the USA.
@@Smooshes786 Considering they let every criminal out with a slap on the wrist! Money is the only form of any kind of accountability here unfortunately. But it's like this in Europe and other Countries too! Not like we are the only ones who like money. Actually in Europe their sentencing for crimes is way less! It's quite disturbing. Seems we are heading that way too, which is sad, idiotic, and overall just a horrible idea. We need to be tougher on Crime! Not easier.
The second worse thing after an actual crime is accusing an innocent man of it.
I like that.
@@thomasstump5279 it is a crime to accuse an inoccent men
@The Ghost of Eric Lynch ~~~
William Blackstone
I don't think that's the second worse thing, both are relatively on par in terms of egregiousness. While incarcerated, innocent people they get abused in prison, some end up dying there. Plus even after some of the wrongfully convicted are finally vindicated and released (in many cases homeless and penniless), many of them still deal with the lost of public trust, resources, family, time, the stigma of the conviction of their record, etc.
And speaking of that conviction, many courts don't automatically remove it or amend it on your official record. Many still have to drudge up legal resources and go to court to legally get it removed. So try applying for anything from public assistance to jobs to housing, etc. with that still showing up on your record. If your are literally walking around with the papers showing you have been legally absolved from the crime, your life is still f**ked.
The interrogators said that Ray wasn’t a good liar.... no shit, that’s because he was telling the truth! 😔
That is a great point!
Anybody is going to sound nervous when they're being interrogated. It's uncomfortable to be accused of things
@@frankcooke1692 And deprived of food, water and sleep. They often will say what the detective wants to hear to get him to shut the hell up
Wow
He deserves millions upon millions for this. More importantly, they deserve the punishment of having to pay it.
This is horrible. So horrible. That man was villainised, targeted and jailed for 20 months for something he didn’t do. He suffered so mentally and lost time he will never get back. To put him through that is one thing but then to show no remorse or apology after he is vindicated makes it even worse. I’m so so sorry for him.
Imagine being arrested for murder because you were in a search party and the body was discovered where you suggested to search. That's it.
How tf.....i swear stories more and more often where ppl try and help only backfire.
No good deed goes unpunished.
@@mierbeuker8148
To this day I still dont fully understand that expression, yet I use it a lot myself.
Mnemonic Hotpocket I don’t get it either! What a sad expression. Luckily it does not exist in my language😊.
@@coolrunnings3
For curiosity sake what language is that?
@blahblahblah mememe especially parents are treated like suspects for not joining in searches yet in most cases they dont want to b the one to find a kid in a bad way, or to find them and be under suspicion for 'knowing' where... n also they have to b there to answer phone calls etc
So with no physical evidence, his only mistake was being right when he suggested she might be in the cemetery. Huge injustice here. Just cops looking for a quick solution to close the case.
I'm shocked they didn't plant evidence
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 honestly, it's so common for cops to force a conviction to get it off the books it's ridiculous. Fucking shame integrity died at some point.
They gotta make that clear rate, ya know?! 😁
Not ALL small towns have corrupt cops.
Happens every day, multiple times! The system is broken and has been for a very long time! Power and money corrupts and when your system is based off money there really is only 1 evolutionary path for it. Cops are crooked, judges are crooked, DA are crooked. The system is a scam!
Mike, you say the stuff most people are thinking! Love listening to your take on these terrible cases
He voluntarily talked to the police and they destroyed his life. Don't talk to cops kids, lawyer up.
Fuckin right
So stupid for them to zone in on him just for a suggestion. That's why I never suggest anything. He literally said, ``has anyone looked over there,'' they looked over there, found her, and said, ``you did it.'' Wow. It was just a suggestion. Cemeteries are sort of park-like, some people like going to them, IDK, why not check? I have taken a little stroll thru a couple cemeteries in my life for no reason, just a nice day . . .it's not so weird, is it?!
Theyre snakes.
Actually fucking facts a lawyer would of solved this problem
YES 🙌
I’m 8 minutes in and I already know this guy needs to stop talking and get an attorney!
Why people should never talk to the police
It should not even take 1 min. Don't do it.
I'm sitting here yelling "Say it! Say it! I want an attorney!"
8 mins in? Boy you're Doomed
I haven’t even started watching and I already know this guy needs to stop talking and get an attorney!!!
My thoughts during the interview, If this guy is guilty, he's the best actor I've ever seen.
LESismore seriously. Never waivers, never shows signs of being defensive. Never shakes his head in opposition to his yes or no answers. Instantly argues to the opposite of what they’re accusing him of without hesitation, because he doesn’t need to think of a lie. If he’s guilty he fooled me.
Yeah, I'm a good judge of character. This man is completely harmless and innocent.
Phew, I’m a pretty bad judge of character, and hate when I can’t tell when someone is lying or untrustworthy. This guy seems innocent to me, and I was wondering what other people’s instincts were telling them 😅
@@Surago That's what OP said :)
I was thinking the exact same thing! Or if I'm wrong I no longer trust myself again
I really love the work you do for all these victims
His body language is so different from most of these cases. You can tell he’s reacting in a natural way & isn’t hiding anything.
This is an absolute disgrace. He should've lawyered up and sued the ever-loving hell out of the detectives and the police department.
🙌 He got $40k apparently, which is an insult when you think that his entire life was destroyed by those idiots.
He was awarded $40,000 by Michigan (under a law that compensates the wrongly convicted). He filed a lawsuit in December of 2019, and yes he is suing the police (don't think anything has happened with this yet).
@@Boomstck thank goodness. He deserves it and they should all be fired and disgraced.
Yeah, ad this "interogation" video should be shown to any kind of a piece of shit, who would at any time said, that only guilty people need lawyers...
He did
How messed up is this case? This man was helping his friends find their missing daughter. And what does he get for being caring? I mean, ffs
This is EXACTLY why GOOD people fear the police and don't come forward more often!
No good deed goes unpunished.
I’m going back to your “Ole’ stories. And enjoying them Mike. Thanks.😊😊😊😊🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
The prosecutor in this case just got arrested for drunk driving, as if the way they treated McCann didnt already show enough lack of character.
So there's at least one good cop or the prosecutor didn't have any cash on him, one or the other.
What a surprise, people like this are disgusting
When he refused to apologize, that was when you saw a lack of character. He's a real piece of shit. Hope he gets whats coming to him.
He lied in his 911 call too, claimed he crashed because of a coughing fit and not all the booze he'd had. Shows the kind of low morals the prosecution had here.
Wow!
Just imagine how many innocent people who are currently sitting in prison for a crime they didn’t commit
And consequently how many escape justice...
Imagine a world where shitty cops, attorneys, prosecutors, and judges are held accountable when they do shit work.
Probably not very many
Same reason I don't believe in the death penalty, can't fix that with a cheque once you've discovered your mistake, 🤝
It's supposed to be about 4% of the people on death row, I would at least double that number for US-prisons in general.
They should review every case those detectives were involved in. Guarantee they railroaded others.
And being a reserve officer, he likely aided them in doing the same to others. Karma is a comedian
Well said Mike. Your closing was priceless.
This case just made me mad- mad for Ray who's life got ruined bc those officers didn't want to admit being wrong, mad that the little girl didn't get justice sooner bc of the incompetency of the police, and mad that the officers made it so people can look at this and think even worse of law enforcement.
RIP Jodi. You deserved better.
What lol?? the guy was arrested for perjury not the murder. He lied to detectives, his motive for lying was never uncovered. That’s an obvious implication, especially considering he told people to look in the place her body was found.
675 Dreamer Ray didn’t lie. The police lied. The video “evidence” used to convict him did not show what they said it did. That is why his conviction was vacated in 2017.
@@675_Dreamer I know he was arrested for perjury. But because of the constant interrogations and allegations his life essentially fell apart... all while the police knowingly went after the man they had no actual evidence on, hence why they couldn't arrest him for murder. I understand they need to do their job and interrogate all suspects. But to try and arrest him on circumstantial evidence at best is disheartening to say the least.
@@marythomas1198 I don't disagree. It's sad that someone wasn't there to watch out for her. But I know many people who've been raised in neighborhoods and would go riding their bike with their friends and told to come home when the lights come on. Until something like this happens and impacts peoples lives personally, I don't think anyone expects to have a killer in their suburban mom neighborhood.
Kat Rabbit, it’s a neighborhood that has a higher crime rate than 95% of the country. That’s not a suburb, that’s a shooting range.
Raymond says, “I was doing my job …” and he was; ironically, the other cops weren’t. Had they investigated the scene where her body was found, they may have found more evidence. Raymond was / is a better investigator/cop than they’ll ever be. Frightening how such a slip-shod investigation can qualify as actual police work. So glad he was proven innocent as he always claimed.
That seems to be the problem, prove your innocence not prove your guilt.
This guy sounds so genuinely innocent. Everything about his reactions show that. Unreal these cops can do this to people and live with themselves. Wow
I think we've learnt from this not to judge reactions or how people react to something people are different and act differently. Facts or nothing
Watching this with only a vague knowledge of the incident and no knowledge that they caught the actual guy, he just seems 100% innocent. His seems completely genuine and it's so upsetting watching it when I completely believe him. Also, if he was on PlayStation, couldn't they have checked that?
And refusing to apologize is the icing on the cake.
The cops just want to close a case.They don't care if your really innocent
@@jennifermaddy2442 They arent cops because they want to serve the public and ensure justice prevails, no, it's just a job. Police officers will often cut corners and skip steps, because they can't work overtime - gotta pick up the kids from school so if that means an innocent person goes to jail, oh well!
Imagine your whole life being destroyed for something you never did. He lost his entire life, family, reputation, and opportunities. He should be paid at least $10 million for what he went through.
He actually won 14.5 million in 2023.
There is be nothing more terrifying than a cop who tells you “I’m trying to help you”.
Or "listen am the only one trying help you here' please don't fall for it.
Absolutely correct - when these words come out thier mouth if you dont have a lawyer, get one. If you do have one, upgrade.
“You know how I feel about you” yeah you’re trying to pin anything you can on me
I hate it when they say 'I know you're not a bad person' too when they obviously do think they are.
@@robyndaniels1381 lmao the cop literally told him he wasn't a bad person and that he did it in the same breath. Those cops are the definitions of incompetency.
dna: not matched
alibi: is solid
cops: we got the guy!
Hahaha. Open and shut case
Yupp, only happens in a shithole country
@yogioto this country is becoming a shithole because of weak minded easily influenced posers just like you
@@yogioto to be fair, yogioto sounds like the adopted love child of boo boo and yogi.
@@thomasstump5279 do you mean honey boo boo? Well, it's the ego shooter alias I came up with about 25 years ago 😅
I lived in Constantine and this event is still something people generally don't like to talk about. Some people thought it could have been a trucker driving through and is largely why the township voted to have a bypass go around the town.
Cop-“I don’t lie”
Literally while lying.
@MrCloudseeker especially when it involve a lot of time. even if you didnt do it whatsoever get a lawyer and plead the 5th. period.
@@ArtFiendz People often feel that talking without a lawyer somehow helps show their innocence. Like they have nothing to hide.
Ya that pissed me off. It’s crazy they get so stuck on their theory they just pushed one way (which was clearly wrong).
Cops can literally NEVER ADMIT WHEN THEY ARE WRONG.
I know of one who did. She said it was the time when she "thought" she was wrong, but ended up being right and it was the "thinking she was wrong" that ended up being the "actual wrong".
Sad but true. They never admit it and they are never held to account. That's usually the case when it comes to police violence and also in cases like this and even if they do bad stuff like this, they still wonder why some people just don't like or trust them. What a mystery...
Watch the innocence project on Netflix. You are 100% correct! They don't even apologize when they ruin a person's life. They think they're so damned perfect and everyone else is a criminal
That cop is a pile of shit no sympathy no sorry makes me think he was a dirty cop
Cops and the government will NEVER admit when they are wrong.
Bruh i can't begin to imagine the levels of anger and hopelessness he felt when not a single person believed anything he said. All from him saying "well we checked everywhere except the graveyard."
Yep and for the simple reason that they'd already checked everywhere else - parks, schools, roadsides, etc - eventually someone going to say 'what about the cemetery.' In another comment someone said about no wonder this town has such a high crime rate: useless cops.
Yeah it was a shame he was so honest really. Otherwise he could have just said some weird acting guy came up to him while he was out searching telling him to try the cemetery. Would have saved himself a whole lot of problems.
All of his behavior through the interrogations screams he's innocent. Poor guy. Just trying to be helpful trying to do what he can to find his niece..and these fricken cops!!
I cannot believe his family bailed on him so quickly and even after he was found innocent. What in the f kind of family is that
When a detective tells you they already have everything they need, so you may as well tell them everything. Your response should always be "Then charge me." Because they have NOTHING
The one detective says everyone is laughing at him. So he wants this guy to admit he murdered a little girl so his coworkers quit making fun of him? Seems legit
He was trying to make him feel guilty enough to confess
I was half listening to this and half playing a game and when I heard that part of the interrogation I stopped the game I was playing turning my sole focus to the video and just sat in disbelief of how stupid that detective sounded saying that
All emotional manipulation tactics. Isolate them, get them vulnerable, scare them, lie to them, threaten them, appeal to their decency, tell them you know they're not bad, things just got out of hand...sometimes they manage to get innocent people to confess this way. Seems what it's designed for, because it's certainly a lousy way to find the truth.
@@Veromoi4 you're so smart
Ya this is some of the worst I've seen. The case where the disabled wife was charged with the brutal murder of her husband and she was found bound in the closet. Those interrogators were shitty. They leaned and berated her because they had no other leads. She's in prison and I truly don't think she's guilty
His DNA didn't even match ! for crying out loud
I was wondering
Love your work
Unreal. Imagine throwing someone in prison and ruining their life, then saying you don't owe them an apology when they're proven innocent.
Someone fire that officer.
He died of cancer not long after
@@spamalotcamelot132 good
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy!
Cancer was karma for him!
Cops can lie to you but if you lie to them you get in trouble...boggles the mind!
By the way, the names of the officers involved in this case are Constantine Police Chief James Bedell, Constantine officer Marcus Donker, St. Joseph County Sheriff’s Detective Sgt. Lonnie Palmer and MSP Lt. Shane Criger. Let's not let these investigators die of old age without having to answer for their own horrible crimes committed against this innocent man.
Good work.
Incompetence at its best!
Do you have the phone # for this police station? I can't find it. I'd like to make a few phone calls. This is disgusting. I wanted to reach through the phone and ring that cops neck!!!
You should put up and spread any twitter profiles/facebook profiles you can find on any of them or the police station itself. They are a bastardized version of justice.
Thank you. Need to ruin their lives just like they ruined Raymond's
One year after former Police Chief James Bedell said that he owed no apology to Raymond McCann, he passed away from cancer. I'm fairly certain that cancer won't be apologizing anytime soon.
Cancer getting rid of cancer.
A fate richly deserved .
Hmmm karma,
He could have said I'm sorry that we made a mistake or something but we were trying to find justice for this girl! And the fact that his behavior made him a suspect.
Too bad it didn't last longer...maybe 6 years of teasing that it would get better and then 20 months of terrible pain.
Good riddance lol
How bloody awful. I can't imagine the pain and unbearable grief. It's just absolutely mind numbing, having to go through that for anyone. I feel very very sad and disgusted. I'm sure as HUMAN BEINGS, we're not supposed to suffer like this!!!!😪😪😫
Would like to see JCS analyse the police interviews. Because from what I could see, this guy was screaming his innocence!
I would LOVE if JCS covered this omg
His reaction was way too forceful to be that of a guilty person
I was thinking the same thing. This guy was so obviously being honest, showing all of the signs, and I too would love to see JCS break down his interrogation
Agreed, a JCS video on this interview would be incredible. He was so clearly innocent.
JCS is not particularly insightful. And what do you need to know? Can't you identify the weaknesses in the questioning?
Why is this okay? For police to destroy peoples lives without any consequences? I don't get it
Dude blue lives matter !!!!
Courts too - 20 years for perjury? What did he perjure? Not knowing his exact whereabouts within 10 minutes of everywhere he went that day down to a T? For people wanting to convict him of that for 20 years I say tell them where you were August 10, 1996 and you better get EVERYTHING RIGHT - where you were, how long you were there, when you left, when you arrived at the next place down to a T or face 20 years.
@@sstritmatter2158 well said 💯
You don't get it? Look around. Power corrupts. Period.
Man, the cops aren't even close to the worst. Look at prosecutors, those folks are some of the most vile people you'll find in the whole justice system
He only got 40k settlement are they for real? After they ruined this mans entire life disgusting disgusting behaviour
You know for sure that anything he had before that was taken by his wife in the divorce. Everyone had been squeezing him for years over this.
Noxxon - the mental suffering alone is worth at least a million
@@scouser2010ify Locked in a cage with animals after loosing everything!
There would be no acceptable dollar value. Id be looking for some payback. But to throw $$$ at it ..... id say $50 million.
He should have gotten millions. He TRULY is a victim in this case. I felt so bad whenhe said he loved being a cop. Poor guy.
Willa Herrera agreed what a joke that should be what he gets monthly
Thank you for another excellent video, Mike.
"he would have had access to handcuffs" literally everyone in america has access to handcuffs.
Exactly. Sex shops sell them. And ofc online.
In UK and I have handcuffs in my bedside cabinet.....and I'm not a copper!
"Giggetty"
That is word for word exactly what I said!
He must be the Great Lakes Drowner. Whats your evidence? Access to water. Case closed
"The evidence about you is insurmountable." They had to let him go because they had no evidence. Whaaaa?
They are allowed and encouraged to lie to suspects.
@@3_up_moon Yeah, I just found it funny lined up back to back like that.
@@3_up_moon by logic the need to be criminals to catch one
Yeah, that was super funny, cuz even a kid knows that if you're not arrested, and they're poking for a confession, the evidence against you is 0.
Well thats a classic move to coax someone suspected into a confession. If you know you didnt do anything youd see these motives and moves especially if you are a cop
They don’t care about the truth just want to say they closed the case.
no shit bitch
I think a vast majority of detectives do absolutely want the truth. There are a small minority who just want to close a case (I was one of those that got a criminal record for something I didn't do but it was a minor case).
@@extremeking425 bitch
Society is a game.
Currently on pause.
Because: failing economies..
Expensive industries needed a reset.
And the deedsDIRTYdeeds of the elite...
All getting wiped while the people are under house arrest.
They said we live in a free society.
Whose in control..... SUCKER.
Exactly.
They don't care who they put in prison. As long as they can close the case, is all that matters to some of them. Mean while the guilty one gets a good head start to get far away.
This is exactly why you should never voluntarily talk to police.
That little girl McKenzie was so brave. I hope she knows all the good she has done by leading police to the killer.
10yo girl hero. Hope her parents are proud.
And that department nearly ruined that case. McKenzie was told to "shut up" by a Police Officer interviewing her at the scene. They said they didn't believe her and McKenzie's mother had to constantly call the Cops and to look into that man more until they finally did to appease her. He was not arrested right away and if she didn't go to the Police, and her Mother didn't hammer away at it saying he was a bad guy, he would have walked.
She saved two lives that day.
Brave? How is she brave for not wanting to be dead? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If she wens BACK to the old man with the intent to collect evidence against him, that would be bravery. Avoiding rape and murder is the most basic animal instinct we have. That's NOT bravery, going against it at your peril IS bravery. Get out of here with that shit.
@@User0000000000000004 it’s not that deep lol
This is nuts. I'm glad he decided to sue the police!
really? that's good. Can't stand child killers, can't stand egoistic unrepentant cops even more. I think he has a solid case against them, unless of course the courts are also as egoistic and in cahoots with the cops to save face about the justice system in America
Ken Hew LoL people win lawsuits against cops / cities every day. He’s got a great case that any attorney would LOVE to represent.
@@GiDD504 unless they decide to frame instead of pay. Just ask Steven Avery.
Richard Butchko it’s like humans aren’t perfect... 😐😐😐😐
@@GiDD504 your reply made no sense.
Detectives: 2000% sure Ray did this.
Reality: detectives were 0% correct.
I wonder if the detective had personal feelings involved in the case which might have clouded their judgment like idk which is worst, to leave a disturbing case like this unsolved or to destroy someones life who didnt do anything
, congratulations for police for making shit worst then it already was its not enough that a girl was found dead i cant even imagine how her family is going through yet rhey had to drag a guy that had nothing to do with it and shame him and his family and distroy his life cause they where desperate to close a case they didnt care for the truth they just wanted a case closed..wtf
I read the Reality in Morgan Freeman's voice automatically....just so you know.
@@binarytree7316 The cops never really believed Raymond McCann was the killer. They never had any intention of finding the right killer. The only thing they wanted was a conviction.
Ironically, he was the only righteous Cop in the room during those interrogations. FYI in 2023 he was fully exonerated and awarded 14.3 million from the state.
Bet his family wanted to talk to him then, huh.
Get that money son
Wow, those "interrogations" are embarrassing to watch... this police department was clearly in way over their heads. Call the professionals in next time, guys, because this was just pathetic to watch. With their poor form, real killers could be getting away.
Fawn Whisperer it’s awful. He sat through hours of the same inane questioning, it’s unbelievable the hours wasted. He had real patience. I would have knocked at least one of them out and got in a heap of trouble
That's what I am saying he didn't do it
Because the American justice system is trash. It happens so often in the US they put people behind bars with little to no evidence. Its flawed.
@@rhmhnn9526 yes I went to prison for 4 years cause I got caught up with a residue baggie that wasn't mine only due to the fact that I didn't pay my fines AFTER A misdemeanor
"We have the.... things all there. I wont go through all the all we have, just know its ALL of it, but I cant tell you any of the all, but it's a LOT. We cant tell you about the lots, but its SO MANY evidences, all in one big bit"
Note to self: Never be apart of local search parties or go looking randomly because you're screwed if the missing persons body is found where you look or suggest when the detectives have no other leads.
This is hard to watch.
ALWAYS ask for a lawyer. They will always say how suspicious it looks when you do ask for one, but oh well.
A. May better than being royally screwed by the cops and falsely accused
How true. Makes you never want to be a part of a search for fear of being falsely accused if you find the body or it's found where you suggested it might be.
That man lost everything. His wife, kids, jobs and had to endure prison. Even his own family didn't believe him. Awful.
Suspicions be damned, no one in the police force is your friend. It's their job to find criminals, not upstanding citizens. It's just facts. Ask if you're being detained, ask for a lawyer. Even if it's just a public defender, it gets someone in that room who's actually going to have your back.
Thats why people including me don't help people. They get fucked! People in china are so scared to help because of scams i have seen a video of a child ran over multiple times because truckers couldn't see her and people walked by like it was another day.
I admit, it was a bit weird how he knew the place where she'd be at but it makes sense if he knew children often play there and he was a cop so patrolling he probably knew that. They did look everywhere too but the way he said it.. It's just weird man.
He made the cop look stupid , laughing in his face when he was said to be lying about his whereabouts 😂. What a POS , “I’m the laughing stock of the office” this isn’t about you this should’ve been about justice not ego. Disgusting police work , truly shameful
Raymond even had the grace to tell them that he still respected them WHILE they were interrogating him!
What, you wouldn't lie and say you committed a horrific crime so the poor detective wouldn't be laughed at anymore? Now who's the monster
@@andrealauren4424 an appeal to their ego, i have doubts he really felt that way and justifiably so.
Ok, you all do know that that was just an interrogation tactic, right? It was just another ploy to try to get him to trust him so that he might confess. Classic 'good cop, bad cop' rhetoric.
That cop was a legit moron, expecting him to be like “oh no, laughing stock of the office? If I confess will it make things better for you at the water cooler? Ok, I did it.”
I love here Mike's story's because he's not afraid at to just tell the raw truth. Not afraid to cuss, he just tells it like it is. So sorry for that poor girl. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
He aged so much. My heart breaks for this guy.
That's what stress does to the body!
Of course ! He volunteered to look for the file but he became a criminal and rapist. he was all over the news for rapist and murderer! I’m sure his time in prison was not good as well! I don’t get why did prosecutors went after him without solid! He asked the community if they searched the cemetery because every where was searched except cemetery ! He was a cop as well so he knew what to look for ! They ruined his life and hurt his family rela
@Lisa Wilson My heart is breaking too for all his suffering both past and present. I can't imagine going through this type of situation without losing my mind.
He served 2 years in prison, but this interview was 9 years after the murder.
"He was acting very weird after discovering the body of a 12 year old girl!"
Uh, please tell me how one is supposed to act after seeing something like that? Ray was proven innocent after being wrongly convicted, lost literally everything in the process and yet these cowards still can't admit they were wrong and apologize to him.
Also, he was a close friend (uncle?) of the family. He knew the kid.
“Acting strangely” isnt a real thing, its cop slang. If the killer was really acting “strange” it would be so obvious that you wouldent even have to say it, the dude would be freaking out everyone and everyone, not just the cop who made that statement
@@mudslicker3122 Raymond was the uncle of the little girl that Jodi was on her way to visit.
Because ego doesnt allow compassion...
The wrongly accused deserve an apology in the very least, but I bet if the accusers apologize, they open themselves up for lawsuits. It's a shitty thing but that is what happens when this country is full of lawyers looking to make a buck. This guy's life was ruined in his prime and I pray he can bounce back. There are many examples of false accusations ruining lives all over the world. So sad.