I remember ICC, even back then they were putting a lump in your throat, especially on alliance, When Varian let's Sarufang take his son. "Stand down, Muradin. Let a grieving father pass."
@@nikolayvakareev9094 and considering his age... Blizz Activision is retarded company nowdays, i spent most of my gaming time playing their games and im not proud of these idiots, specially when the only team carrying them now is the cinematic team.
imagine sylvanas is doing exactly that, defending the hordes existance but from a more strategical and long term viewpoint that as vol jin said on his death bed "many will not understand"
why would she? she has never had any interrest in the horde, she hated them, but had nowhere else to go after she had become scourge. she has always done everything for her own sake and survival. not for the forsaken or the horde. her whole campaign in stormheim shows that. actions before that shows it aswell.
I don't think Blizzard will be dumb enough to make Sylvanas Garrosh 2.0. I think there is more to it that has yet to be revealed. Like how Bolvar may be manipulating Sylvanas and who were those voices really that told Vol'jin to make her warchief in the first place.
I think, or more correctly, I hope there is some resolution to the prophecy that Vol'jin foretold, that she is going to save us. Because it would be interesting if she somehow saves the world even though she is technically an evil villain, perhaps even sacrificing herself in the process. But she does not do it for anyone but herself and perhaps the forsaken, but she still does it as she will always do what she feels is right for the Forsaken to continue to exist. It would maybe make the end of it all feel hollow for everyone as you sort of have to be grateful towards her because she saved the world, but you also can't really be grateful towards her because she did terrible things to get to that point. So it will be a sort of hollow victory against whatever old god or great villain they have at the end of the expansion. And it ends with the main characters just not really knowing what to feel or think as many of them are still very angry for what Sylvanas did, but they also realize that without her evil actions, she could not have saved the world. It would be a completely morally grey resolution to the story. I highly doubt that Blizzard will do another Garrosh 2.0 situation where she is a raid boss. That would be extreamly poor design on their part as it has already been done before. I don't think that will really please anyone.
Yes, especialy with the whole thing about the void being scared of undeath because they cant control it. Maybe Sylvanas knows more than everyone else, I mean she's technically been to the afterlife. People are just hating for nothing, they need to give it time instead of jumping to conclusions.
LMNOP QRS This is different. She's Warchief because she's been a fan favorite since WC3. Now when you go to all the allied races leaders being female you're onto something.
Ik its an old comment but I have defend Sylvanas here in a way. I hate to break it to you, but Sylvanas has always been evil, since vanilla its been established that the scourge are in the Horde as an Alliance of Convienence. They constantly and consitantly from Vanilla ( even WC3) to current WoW have used Horde citizens as test subjects for the scourge, she's been raising dead horde citiziens to make Abominations for as long as she could, she turned Tarren Mill into a plague infested hell hole just to test plague strains on humans. She has been looking for a way to stay immortal since she offed her self from atop Ice Crown Citadel and Landed in Hel (she was raised by her Val'kyr btw.) The mere fact she ended up in Hel after all she's been through, her death at the hands of Arthas, raised as a banshee only to be used to kill the people she swore to protect, losing her family to the scourge invasion of Quel'Thalas, freeing her self from the Lich King's Grasp only to find rejection by her own people, settling into her Tortures old city, and living amongst rotting zombies. Yeah I say she has had plenty of reason to be evil as long as she has, and I bet she finds comfort in knowing her people will serve her loyally untill they die again, as they have had it just as bad if not worse, if the world wont accept them, they will remake the world in their vissage and force it to accept them, by any means neccissary.
i think many have realized that Sylvanas will not be taken out, but rather Queen Azshara will be one of the main villians after this faction war patch. Sylvanas may be dethrown from warchief, but not killed.
The story for this one will have a larger scale. The Horde vs Ally war will be short lived. They very much are setting up the old gods/Azshara story which will come in and disrupt everything.
Just think about this: Sylvanas wanted to burn down the tree from the beginning. Even Nathanos had no clue about it. So Sylvanas does not trust her leaders, not even her very right hand Nathanos. She does not fit in anyone in her plans. Even her giving up Undercity none knew about. I think Sylvanas has fear of something. So she isolated the Horde in Kalimdor from the Alliance to get rid of them and clean out all the bad guys in the Horde where I think some are still filling their spot for the old gods.
I liked the way you guys react. Not just watch and show facial expressions, but sit and deconstruct the video bit by bit and explaining why you reacted thus. You earned a like and a sub.
Every member of the horde, feels the same one thing here.. The exact same thing Saurfang feels. He stayed, and fought, not for sylvanas, but for the Horde.. it was always for the Horde.
Great reaction. Was such an emotional visceral cinematic. Blizzard is really stepping up the engagement and story to be more personal and relatable while still being fantastical and otherworldly. Also both handsome AF🤤
I suggest the (A Good war) novella. worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/story/short-story/a-good-war It goes into A LOT more detail and a lot of things are different from the pre event. You will love Saurfang more and like Sylvana's decision. Well at least it did that for me. The pre event in game doesn't do the novellas justice. There is also an alliance one.
Crying + 1, In Shock + 1, Hysterical laughing at the end + 1, eyebrow movement + 1, fist clenching + 1, not naming Saurfang at the begging - 5, otherwise it's ok
I watched the BFA cinematic again after this Old Soldier cinematic. I feel when Sylvanas screams "For the Horde" shes looking back and understands where Saurfang is coming from. And when Saurfang looks at her I feel hes thinking maybe she at least understands a little. I'm fine with the way Sylvanas is right now cuz I think shes a badass bitch, however, I hope they don't just kill her off and thats the end. Reborn blood elf. Please blizzard..
Hey I liked the story of Warlords of Draenor...it's just the implementation of certain features (Garrisons) that made Warlords the weakest expansion for me. I enjoyed the leveling and storyline as well as the dungeons and raids, but other features did make it not the best out there to be sure. As for Sylvanas, she's not gonna be Garrosh 2.0. Something will change. I think Blizz is laying this out like this so that it LOOKS like Sylvanas is Garrosh 2.0 but I think it will go quite differently.
Nope wod problem wasnt the garrison it was the fckin story it had huge potential but they fucked it up just imagine if every patch were a warlord, story + raid...
My biggest issue with WoD was that there was too little content for the time we had to play it. The content in itself wasn’t bad at all, but it had to last for too long. And the shipyard can go f**k itself. The garrison, OK fine, I can handle that, that wasn’t too bad once you got it the way you wanted it (it is horrible for alts though, and you can’t ignore it either when you’re levelling through it), but the shipyard and the oil... Damn.
I'm with you guys! I'm Horde since day 1 of Vanilla and "yes" I'm little bit tired of mad Warchiefs you know "Follow crazy leaders" I'm sick of this. At this times we need leaders like Sourfang, Thrall, Bane and many other great a honorable leaders who can lead "The Horde" in a honorable path. I'll not give up the Horde but I'm like Sourfang right now "Tired to follow mad Warchiefs"
Sylvanas is literal evil. Have you not played the game? She has been an evil piece of garbage ever since she tortured Koltira for wanting to be friends with Thassarian.
Players are so scared she will become Garrosh 2.0. CALM DOWN. She won't plus u dont even know the whole plot for BFA and u already start to throw with shiet left and right. Just wait and see what happens.
ive played since release and loved sylvanas since then, even before WoW came out. ive always followed the Horde. i am proud to say i follow them even now i follow them. you have to take into account what happened to sylvanas in her death. she saw her people get slaughtered as she cried and screamed (Thats what her eye markings are btw) and had lorderan taken from the forsaken in the now new lore. she does what she has to to win and i am all for it. even if it does mean burning down the world tree and killing countless night elves. remember the alliance completely wiped out have the barrens killing mainly civilians. now ill finish this off by saying, sylvanas is an excellent warchief! For the horde!
What a poor Italian girl has to do to make you react to the trailer of "Beautiful Boy" (with Timothee Chalamet and Steve Carell)? I can send you italian wine? Pasta? Oil? Or maybe a real italian pizza? 🤔🤔🤔😜😜😜😂😂😂
I feel bad for Saurfang for losing his son but he's guilty. He went along with Sylvanas' plan instead of challenging her to a Mak'gora and taking the Warchief title from her.
i love how everyone has the same reaction when saurfang has his son in his arms... when a trailer makes me almost cry.. its daaaamn good. :D
i love how everyone is like ooooh you dont say that when troll boy goes like you ? XD
I killed his son at ICC hoho
@@JoNesBlacKkrafkini no you killed his reanimated corpse
I remember ICC, even back then they were putting a lump in your throat, especially on alliance, When Varian let's Sarufang take his son. "Stand down, Muradin. Let a grieving father pass."
Warcraft fan since 1996 and WoW Player since day 1 here in europe without any break. i still love the game, the world, the stories
Do you still love it since expansion launch?
Weird flex but ok
@@nikolayvakareev9094 and considering his age... Blizz Activision is retarded company nowdays, i spent most of my gaming time playing their games and im not proud of these idiots, specially when the only team carrying them now is the cinematic team.
Tauren player, I will not stand at Lordaron and defend Sylvanas' actions. But i will by Saurfang and defend the future of the Horde.
imagine sylvanas is doing exactly that, defending the hordes existance but from a more strategical and long term viewpoint that as vol jin said on his death bed "many will not understand"
I guess all we can do is wait and see.
why would she? she has never had any interrest in the horde, she hated them, but had nowhere else to go after she had become scourge. she has always done everything for her own sake and survival. not for the forsaken or the horde. her whole campaign in stormheim shows that. actions before that shows it aswell.
If you want to get to Zandalar I think you'll have to at least once.
Dude! I'm 47 and been playing since 2008! I have a full time job where I work 40-63 hrs/wk. Ok, you can't play 8 hrs/day, so only do 7
I don't think Blizzard will be dumb enough to make Sylvanas Garrosh 2.0. I think there is more to it that has yet to be revealed. Like how Bolvar may be manipulating Sylvanas and who were those voices really that told Vol'jin to make her warchief in the first place.
I think, or more correctly, I hope there is some resolution to the prophecy that Vol'jin foretold, that she is going to save us.
Because it would be interesting if she somehow saves the world even though she is technically an evil villain, perhaps even sacrificing herself in the process. But she does not do it for anyone but herself and perhaps the forsaken, but she still does it as she will always do what she feels is right for the Forsaken to continue to exist.
It would maybe make the end of it all feel hollow for everyone as you sort of have to be grateful towards her because she saved the world, but you also can't really be grateful towards her because she did terrible things to get to that point. So it will be a sort of hollow victory against whatever old god or great villain they have at the end of the expansion. And it ends with the main characters just not really knowing what to feel or think as many of them are still very angry for what Sylvanas did, but they also realize that without her evil actions, she could not have saved the world. It would be a completely morally grey resolution to the story.
I highly doubt that Blizzard will do another Garrosh 2.0 situation where she is a raid boss. That would be extreamly poor design on their part as it has already been done before. I don't think that will really please anyone.
Yes, especialy with the whole thing about the void being scared of undeath because they cant control it. Maybe Sylvanas knows more than everyone else, I mean she's technically been to the afterlife. People are just hating for nothing, they need to give it time instead of jumping to conclusions.
LMNOP QRS This is different. She's Warchief because she's been a fan favorite since WC3. Now when you go to all the allied races leaders being female you're onto something.
Those voices might have been the old gods, who knows lmao
Ik its an old comment but I have defend Sylvanas here in a way. I hate to break it to you, but Sylvanas has always been evil, since vanilla its been established that the scourge are in the Horde as an Alliance of Convienence. They constantly and consitantly from Vanilla ( even WC3) to current WoW have used Horde citizens as test subjects for the scourge, she's been raising dead horde citiziens to make Abominations for as long as she could, she turned Tarren Mill into a plague infested hell hole just to test plague strains on humans. She has been looking for a way to stay immortal since she offed her self from atop Ice Crown Citadel and Landed in Hel (she was raised by her Val'kyr btw.) The mere fact she ended up in Hel after all she's been through, her death at the hands of Arthas, raised as a banshee only to be used to kill the people she swore to protect, losing her family to the scourge invasion of Quel'Thalas, freeing her self from the Lich King's Grasp only to find rejection by her own people, settling into her Tortures old city, and living amongst rotting zombies. Yeah I say she has had plenty of reason to be evil as long as she has, and I bet she finds comfort in knowing her people will serve her loyally untill they die again, as they have had it just as bad if not worse, if the world wont accept them, they will remake the world in their vissage and force it to accept them, by any means neccissary.
"Warlords of Draenor was a Warcrime..." lol, I saw what you did there. :D
Yeah, we really don't see casual use of powers. If we do it's a walk through or camera sweep. Never really during a conversation.
I alawys ready to service for the Horde!!!
because we have the Horde!!
For the Horde!!!
From. South Korea.
thats a rel horde my friend for the horde
i think many have realized that Sylvanas will not be taken out, but rather Queen Azshara will be one of the main villians after this faction war patch. Sylvanas may be dethrown from warchief, but not killed.
The story for this one will have a larger scale. The Horde vs Ally war will be short lived. They very much are setting up the old gods/Azshara story which will come in and disrupt everything.
Just think about this:
Sylvanas wanted to burn down the tree from the beginning. Even Nathanos had no clue about it. So Sylvanas does not trust her leaders, not even her very right hand Nathanos. She does not fit in anyone in her plans. Even her giving up Undercity none knew about. I think Sylvanas has fear of something. So she isolated the Horde in Kalimdor from the Alliance to get rid of them and clean out all the bad guys in the Horde where I think some are still filling their spot for the old gods.
By far the best reactiontrailer so far, keep it up boys
Great Reaction
And what a fantastic Cinematic!
When you started to tear up, I clicked the Sub button :) Real Warcraft fans !
I liked the way you guys react. Not just watch and show facial expressions, but sit and deconstruct the video bit by bit and explaining why you reacted thus.
You earned a like and a sub.
Every member of the horde, feels the same one thing here.. The exact same thing Saurfang feels. He stayed, and fought, not for sylvanas, but for the Horde.. it was always for the Horde.
#NoShouldersForOldSoldiers (check it out on Twitter) ~ Horde movement to show solidarity with Saurfang.
I'm with my no shoulders brothers
Oh? Will instantly log on and mog away shoulders.
Great reaction. Was such an emotional visceral cinematic. Blizzard is really stepping up the engagement and story to be more personal and relatable while still being fantastical and otherworldly.
Also both handsome AF🤤
Sylvanas looks so different in this cinematic compared to the ingame cinematics. Is it just me?
I suggest the (A Good war) novella. worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/story/short-story/a-good-war It goes into A LOT more detail and a lot of things are different from the pre event. You will love Saurfang more and like Sylvana's decision. Well at least it did that for me. The pre event in game doesn't do the novellas justice. There is also an alliance one.
Ferni dude. I really wanted to read this. Thanks so much for the link.
Crying + 1, In Shock + 1, Hysterical laughing at the end + 1, eyebrow movement + 1, fist clenching + 1, not naming Saurfang at the begging - 5, otherwise it's ok
Shout out to our boy Nobbel for keeping us updated with the lore
Yup. Love his channel. Been watching all his vids to catch up.
Saurfang for Warchief!
Make the Horde great again!
Screw the live action Warcraft movies. Ths is what Warcraft movies need to be.
I watched the BFA cinematic again after this Old Soldier cinematic. I feel when Sylvanas screams "For the Horde" shes looking back and understands where Saurfang is coming from. And when Saurfang looks at her I feel hes thinking maybe she at least understands a little. I'm fine with the way Sylvanas is right now cuz I think shes a badass bitch, however, I hope they don't just kill her off and thats the end. Reborn blood elf. Please blizzard..
YellowSocks dude I actually did the same thing! It maybe the best expansion cinematic since “You are Not Prepared!”
I loved the reaction, so pure. Thank you.
Excuse me but Zappy Boi is not Shield boi.. Hes still alive.
Hey I liked the story of Warlords of Draenor...it's just the implementation of certain features (Garrisons) that made Warlords the weakest expansion for me. I enjoyed the leveling and storyline as well as the dungeons and raids, but other features did make it not the best out there to be sure.
As for Sylvanas, she's not gonna be Garrosh 2.0. Something will change. I think Blizz is laying this out like this so that it LOOKS like Sylvanas is Garrosh 2.0 but I think it will go quite differently.
Nope wod problem wasnt the garrison it was the fckin story it had huge potential but they fucked it up just imagine if every patch were a warlord, story + raid...
Gery Bock it wasnt the Story, it was the massiv content holes.
Dressierter Seelöwe that and the story..
My biggest issue with WoD was that there was too little content for the time we had to play it. The content in itself wasn’t bad at all, but it had to last for too long.
And the shipyard can go f**k itself. The garrison, OK fine, I can handle that, that wasn’t too bad once you got it the way you wanted it (it is horrible for alts though, and you can’t ignore it either when you’re levelling through it), but the shipyard and the oil... Damn.
I'm with you guys! I'm Horde since day 1 of Vanilla and "yes" I'm little bit tired of mad Warchiefs you know "Follow crazy leaders" I'm sick of this. At this times we need leaders like Sourfang, Thrall, Bane and many other great a honorable leaders who can lead "The Horde" in a honorable path. I'll not give up the Horde but I'm like Sourfang right now "Tired to follow mad Warchiefs"
Damm this cinematic always makes me cry, im a mom and look Surfang pain its so painful
FOR THE HORDE!!!!!
hours of lore is an understatement... id say there are days if u wanted to get in depth
you guys should fallow this up with *
lost honor *
Sylvanas is literal evil. Have you not played the game? She has been an evil piece of garbage ever since she tortured Koltira for wanting to be friends with Thassarian.
Don't worry, She'll be the next raidboss :)
LightHawKnight
Have *you* even played Warcraft 3? She killed the human’s Grand Marshal and backstabbed the Alliance!
With no context cause this is a month later, when did Sylvanas work for the Alliance?
So there was a trailer for this before the video.
tbh i dont care i have both horde and alliance
ohhh they very gasrroshed her. . . she turned into the one thing she hated most lich king/queen
Players are so scared she will become Garrosh 2.0. CALM DOWN. She won't plus u dont even know the whole plot for BFA and u already start to throw with shiet left and right. Just wait and see what happens.
ive played since release and loved sylvanas since then, even before WoW came out. ive always followed the Horde. i am proud to say i follow them even now i follow them. you have to take into account what happened to sylvanas in her death. she saw her people get slaughtered as she cried and screamed (Thats what her eye markings are btw) and had lorderan taken from the forsaken in the now new lore. she does what she has to to win and i am all for it. even if it does mean burning down the world tree and killing countless night elves. remember the alliance completely wiped out have the barrens killing mainly civilians. now ill finish this off by saying, sylvanas is an excellent warchief! For the horde!
Sylvanas is a monster. Anything decent in her died with her. All that remains is abomination.
Nha not even the horde likes her, give it up
whoa, your geek is showing and it is impressive......
Thanks 😁
lok'tar ogar /)
What a poor Italian girl has to do to make you react to the trailer of "Beautiful Boy" (with Timothee Chalamet and Steve Carell)? I can send you italian wine? Pasta? Oil? Or maybe a real italian pizza? 🤔🤔🤔😜😜😜😂😂😂
Warhammer 40k is a much bigger story, just letting you know. Still love WOW but it dosen't hold a candle to 40k.
I feel bad for Saurfang for losing his son but he's guilty. He went along with Sylvanas' plan instead of challenging her to a Mak'gora and taking the Warchief title from her.
You do realize one has nothing to do with the other, right? :D
WoW... meh!
yokelabductee awww cmon dude it’s awesome
The film was decent, not good just decent #WheresDougJones, but I never did get into the game
yokelabductee yeah, in my opinion, Warcraft doesn’t really get interesting story wise until warcraft 3, so the movie didn’t have enough to work with
How are you going to put an exclamation mark on meh? What does that even mean? You excitedly feel very little?