Synthetic winch cables snap back as well , they also release enough energy to cut a nut sack off but not the same as cable , cable will kill you . Also throwing a towel or sand bags over the middle of it doesn't stop it from recoiling . The safest way to winch is to get everyone away at a safe distance and not standing anywhere between the two vehicles or tree stump etc and if you are the driver be aware at what angle the cable is to the direction of the driver . If it snaps or even bringing a D shackle with it it can cause severe injury or death . Remote wireless winching is the safest way to go.
I have broken many cables. Never had an issue. They too travel on the ground. The issue is when what you attached to snaps. You have the hook or d ring coming at you and possibly part of the attaching point. That is what kills.
Lmao. First time I ever used my winch, I was alone on the trail, tried to do the safe thing and threw my sweatshirt on the cable. Was so proud I got myself unstuck, but for the life of me couldn't find my sweatshirt....until I looked at the winch. Only wrapped up a couple times. Luckily I was the only witness. 👍
Cool idea. You could just make one of those by drilling a hole in a hockey puck or find some sort of large rubber bushing/body spacer, etc. Could also use a cheap Huffy Mtn bike rear suspension coil spring with some sort of rubber jammed inside so the spring wouldn't slide on inclines. Also the spring would compress when the hook is pulled all the way in and give some buffer to not pull the hook into the winch too far.
The proper response for your buddies comment about, why is your jeep moving and mines not? Would be, because my jeeps a plow and yours is a boat anchor.😂
One small problem is, while it's up against the fairlead roller it's going to center itself and your cable is going to wrap itself right in the center of the spool. Like anything else, winch operation means you SHOULD BE paying attention to what you're doing.
A handy fella could make his own rubber donuts from cut bits of tire recap material stacked and vulcanized together. Strips of new recap also make nice push bumper bumpers.
I would like to see it demonstrated in an actual failure scenario. Would that rubber donut become a projectile at the end the cable? Would the cable pull through the donut leaving it behind?
Ronny Dahl just posted a video about snapping winch cables which shows that synthtic winch cables do snap when they break. They do not drop to the ground. FYI. Check it out.
That was really a well done video. Watched a number of cable breaks in the military while I was an Armored Cavalry Officer, Fortunately the military teaches how to stay the he’ll out of the way, but even with that saw a young soldier cut in half by Wench line . Be afraid, they are deadly with a capitol D❗️
Im not here to advertise but if your willing to spend the money (as i have) i recommend the factor 55 ultra hook, not just because they are fancy but because they fold away nicely inbetween your rollers And personally i think its a huuuge plus.
The winch savers will NOT keep a cable from recoiling and hurting sombody if the cable snaps. Honestly, they're great for keeping the hook eye from breaking, but that's about it.
I have done so much 12000 Warn steel cable winching I wore out my fairlead. In all honesty, I 4:43 and I still do not know what this widget is supposed to be doing???? Please clue me in.
Place the hook on the Jeep you're recovering from the bottom up through the d-ring. Not the top down. If the hook fails, it will send the cable to the ground instead of up in the air.
I've never even heard of a winch saver, and I grew up ridin in my Dad's 70 Cj-5 that had the "ratcheting" Warn winch. I now own a 49 Cj-2a and an 85 Cj-7, both with older Warn winches (and snatch blocks of course) so what does a winch saver do?
Of all the cables and ropes I've seen pulling vehicles out I have never seen a towel or weight ever stop a cable from hitting the ground as it always slammed up against the vehicle when they snap.
I had an ATV winch get stripped out because as I pulled the winch in I wasn’t paying attention and the hook hit the rollers and stripped the gears. I looked for ever and found the winch saver and installed it. It works like a charm and gives cushion so it won’t strip again and gives weight for the line. Best money you can spend for your winch.
Shawn never heard of a winch stripping bc of the hook getting sucked into the fairlead. Usually just snaps the cable. Even on ghe cheap ass can-am branded Warns with the plastic planetarys. Must've been a harbor freight winch.
Good help I just had a bad idea I got stuck in mud, only one Tree behind me .! I pass my cable under my Jeep...and try to winch it out but my cable snap got stuck for 4 hours..😬
Good video thanks for posting. Question new to winching, I understand how dangerous it can be f the cable snaps so from what I understand if you place the rubber stop in the middle of the line and it snaps the weight of the ball helps control the flying loose cable?? Thanks for input.
+S.T. ENTERTAINMENT That is correct 👍 You can also throw a coat or something similar over the line. Just be careful not to winch the coat up into the winch.
any rope cable string under tension will snap back when it brakes I really wish yall would stop saying synthetic rope has this magic ability to fall to the ground when it snaps???? however I need one of those line savers where u get it??
@@FairlyHonest i watched a video the other day and that thing wont even slow a breaking cable down. They used multiple things and your spare wheel ung on there doesn't even make it safe.....the rule is stand way way way way back!
Great video my friend. A shame that product is a fob of rubber that unless is under $10 delivered is ridiculously easy to replicate at home. Nonetheless, thanks for a great literally " life saving" tip!!
+bluedeval03 That would be mine (Alex) Here are a couple videos of its development. th-cam.com/video/XXMsWnk3f2E/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OeR349Fzcj0/w-d-xo.html What's your group? Post a link if it's online :-)
sweet YJ Alex!!! I have a YJ only group on facebook for like minded jeeple. Always good to have knowledgeable guys to help the new comers and us that forget. lol facebook.com/groups/898667880213575
Great idea, but I'd prefer if it could be installed when needed rather than always there. Mainly because I've seen how effective multiple cable stops can be but I wouldn't want a string of these hanging on my bumper like a pearl necklace.
+cmg66999 Search for (Winch Saver) on amazon or eBay. You can also find dealers in google search. I believe ours came from 4wheel parts if I remember right?
hello You mentioned using the "Life Saver" on the synthetic rope setup on the red Jeep, I was under the impression that it was needed for synthetic , did I get bad info?
Synthetic ropes don't come flying back like steel. They don't retain as much spring power and if they do let go there isn't any weight to them so they tend to just drop to the floor. Its always a good idea anyway though. Belt and braces beats loosing half your face if it comes back through the windscreen
Synthetic winch cables snap back as well , they also release enough energy to cut a nut sack off but not the same as cable , cable will kill you . Also throwing a towel or sand bags over the middle of it doesn't stop it from recoiling . The safest way to winch is to get everyone away at a safe distance and not standing anywhere between the two vehicles or tree stump etc and if you are the driver be aware at what angle the cable is to the direction of the driver . If it snaps or even bringing a D shackle with it it can cause severe injury or death . Remote wireless winching is the safest way to go.
NUT SACK LOL
For some of these guys losing their nut sacks is a plus for society......😒
Not if you're as quick as me. I would just grab the shackle flying through the air. My reflexes are far faster than even Drax.
I have broken many cables. Never had an issue. They too travel on the ground. The issue is when what you attached to snaps. You have the hook or d ring coming at you and possibly part of the attaching point. That is what kills.
Lmao. First time I ever used my winch, I was alone on the trail, tried to do the safe thing and threw my sweatshirt on the cable. Was so proud I got myself unstuck, but for the life of me couldn't find my sweatshirt....until I looked at the winch. Only wrapped up a couple times. Luckily I was the only witness. 👍
"Back to the video and not jeep envy" lol I like this guy
Cool idea. You could just make one of those by drilling a hole in a hockey puck or find some sort of large rubber bushing/body spacer, etc. Could also use a cheap Huffy Mtn bike rear suspension coil spring with some sort of rubber jammed inside so the spring wouldn't slide on inclines. Also the spring would compress when the hook is pulled all the way in and give some buffer to not pull the hook into the winch too far.
Cool have to get one.👍 Where did you buy it . Only find ones for ATV'S.
The proper response for your buddies comment about, why is your jeep moving and mines not? Would be, because my jeeps a plow and yours is a boat anchor.😂
I have always put a couple of lengths of chain over the winch cable. Fortunately, I never found out if it worked, but I think it might have helped.
One small problem is, while it's up against the fairlead roller it's going to center itself and your cable is going to wrap itself right in the center of the spool. Like anything else, winch operation means you SHOULD BE paying attention to what you're doing.
A handy fella could make his own rubber donuts from cut bits of tire recap material stacked and vulcanized together. Strips of new recap also make nice push bumper bumpers.
I would like to see it demonstrated in an actual failure scenario. Would that rubber donut become a projectile at the end the cable? Would the cable pull through the donut leaving it behind?
Ronny Dahl just posted a video about snapping winch cables which shows that synthtic winch cables do snap when they break. They do not drop to the ground. FYI. Check it out.
I watched that video it was informational
True, I just watched that too.
here is from the rope manufacturer the synthetic rope seemed to recoil more then the steel cable in the video
th-cam.com/video/cYEMT5avIUk/w-d-xo.html
That was really a well done video. Watched a number of cable breaks in the military while I was an Armored Cavalry Officer,
Fortunately the military teaches how to stay the he’ll out of the way, but even with that saw a young soldier cut in half by
Wench line . Be afraid, they are deadly with a capitol D❗️
Im not here to advertise but if your willing to spend the money (as i have) i recommend the factor 55 ultra hook, not just because they are fancy but because they fold away nicely inbetween your rollers And personally i think its a huuuge plus.
I've done it.The Burr on my cable grabbed a motorcycle strap and I made one hell of a project for me to do later
The winch savers will NOT keep a cable from recoiling and hurting sombody if the cable snaps. Honestly, they're great for keeping the hook eye from breaking, but that's about it.
I agree
I have done so much 12000 Warn steel cable winching I wore out my fairlead. In all honesty, I 4:43 and I still do not know what this widget is supposed to be doing???? Please clue me in.
Place the hook on the Jeep you're recovering from the bottom up through the d-ring. Not the top down. If the hook fails, it will send the cable to the ground instead of up in the air.
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I've never even heard of a winch saver, and I grew up ridin in my Dad's 70 Cj-5 that had the "ratcheting" Warn winch. I now own a 49 Cj-2a and an 85 Cj-7, both with older Warn winches (and snatch blocks of course) so what does a winch saver do?
good vid man. thanks. love the "jeep envy" comment. lol
Of all the cables and ropes I've seen pulling vehicles out I have never seen a towel or weight ever stop a cable from hitting the ground as it always slammed up against the vehicle when they snap.
What size tires on that red jeep
I had an ATV winch get stripped out because as I pulled the winch in I wasn’t paying attention and the hook hit the rollers and stripped the gears. I looked for ever and found the winch saver and installed it. It works like a charm and gives cushion so it won’t strip again and gives weight for the line. Best money you can spend for your winch.
I disagree. Best money is 100% rope.
Shawn never heard of a winch stripping bc of the hook getting sucked into the fairlead. Usually just snaps the cable. Even on ghe cheap ass can-am branded Warns with the plastic planetarys. Must've been a harbor freight winch.
@@ROTAXD First thing I thought was "that must have been one badass winch line". lol I can see it happening though.
Is this life-saver a flotation device, in case your jeep sinks in a lake?
Cool product. Do you have to cut the hook off to get it on the line?
Thanks for sharing video Sir, atleast i get some knowledge.
Why you worm hook that shackle. Bottom up so if the hook fails it’s thrown to the dirt
Can't find this specific size winch saver online anywhere...please help?!
how about a link for where to purchase? Thanks
I still don’t understand what this product is supposed to do.
I thought they yellow jeep was big then I saw the red one.
Where did you get it?
Looks like it will ball up on one side
Good video. Thanks a lot.
Cabela’s has a few in stock, more sizes if you order off their website.
Wrap your cable with a heavy chain if u want to b safe
YJ's thumbs up!
Cool vid man. I like useful information vids!! Thanks
Good help I just had a bad idea I got stuck in mud,
only one Tree behind me .!
I pass my cable under my Jeep...and try to winch it out but my cable snap got stuck for 4 hours..😬
Bummer!! That is why I built my winch assembly on a cradle with a 2" draw bar. It can go in any 2" reciever. Front or rear bumper
Good video thanks for posting. Question new to winching, I understand how dangerous it can be f the cable snaps so from what I understand if you place the rubber stop in the middle of the line and it snaps the weight of the ball helps control the flying loose cable?? Thanks for input.
+S.T. ENTERTAINMENT
That is correct 👍
You can also throw a coat or something similar over the line. Just be careful not to winch the coat up into the winch.
Where did you get that??i need one
any rope cable string under tension will snap back when it brakes
I really wish yall would stop saying synthetic rope has this magic ability to fall to the ground when it snaps????
however I need one of those line savers where u get it??
help me here
whats the purpose of the "life saver "
Salo Ram
It’s supposed to slow the cable down from whipping if the cable breaks under load. We are planning to test that soon.
@@FairlyHonest please do!
@@FairlyHonest i watched a video the other day and that thing wont even slow a breaking cable down. They used multiple things and your spare wheel ung on there doesn't even make it safe.....the rule is stand way way way way back!
Thanks for the info, just bought one ...
Use a spare boat trailer roller
Great video my friend. A shame that product is a fob of rubber that unless is under $10 delivered is ridiculously easy to replicate at home. Nonetheless, thanks for a great literally " life saving" tip!!
Synthetic snaps back. Lots of video on it. They do not fall on the ground
Sooooooo, what does it do?
Leander, who is recording, and most importantly, WHY IS HIS RED JEEP NOT IN MY GROUP???? What's the info on that beast
+bluedeval03 That would be mine (Alex)
Here are a couple videos of its development.
th-cam.com/video/XXMsWnk3f2E/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/OeR349Fzcj0/w-d-xo.html
What's your group?
Post a link if it's online :-)
sweet YJ Alex!!! I have a YJ only group on facebook for like minded jeeple. Always good to have knowledgeable guys to help the new comers and us that forget. lol facebook.com/groups/898667880213575
bluedeval03 awesome I just asked to join. Thanks for the link :-)
Great idea, but I'd prefer if it could be installed when needed rather than always there. Mainly because I've seen how effective multiple cable stops can be but I wouldn't want a string of these hanging on my bumper like a pearl necklace.
What the f€€k is he on about?
Where do you get the life saver?
+cmg66999
Search for (Winch Saver) on amazon or eBay. You can also find dealers in google search. I believe ours came from 4wheel parts if I remember right?
Ok,I'll do that thanks again. I enjoy watching your videos.
@@XXNINJAKILLERX just git a couple of plungers
@@FairlyHonest been searching for a week with no results, is this still available out there " Rubber Winch LifeSaver"
That round thing looks nothing like a lollie u can buy winch weights
hello
You mentioned using the "Life Saver" on the synthetic rope setup on the red Jeep, I was under the impression that it was needed for synthetic , did I get bad info?
sorry meant to say NOT needed for synthetic
Synthetic ropes don't come flying back like steel. They don't retain as much spring power and if they do let go there isn't any weight to them so they tend to just drop to the floor. Its always a good idea anyway though. Belt and braces beats loosing half your face if it comes back through the windscreen
th-cam.com/video/97XqNX3yFTk/w-d-xo.html
More info to come
What does it do for ya?
Len Rookus
If the cable breaks it is supposed to help keep the cable from flying back at you.
with tires that big you are losing a lot of torque.
@shotgunsurgeon789 bigger diameter means more speed less torque, but you can get portal axles with a gear reduction in them to fix that problem.
Logan Stevenson or just change the differential gearing...
@@patrickmurray4084 true
All the torque in the world won't help you if your tires are off the ground because you high centered. These are off road vehicles ;)
@@mckrackin5324 that's why I said big tires with portal axles are the way to go.
Pointless
Wierless!
Put a boat roller on