Stokes' Theorem and Green's Theorem

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    Thank God for this man who knows how to make the complex simple. The textbook fr makes this way more confusing than it has to be.

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  • @mzafarullah4670
    @mzafarullah4670 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a gem this video is. The explanation combined with awesome presentation makes it easy to understand. Thank you very much!

  • @massimilianocassol7252
    @massimilianocassol7252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome lesson… when I was studying Analysis II all these theorems were so hard to understand, they were taken “as is”, and seemed so mysterious.

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    @henokmekonnen4592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This series of lectures deserve millions of views.

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    @rodbhar6522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This series has been great. Steve, is such an effective teacher.

  • @mr.schrodinger7
    @mr.schrodinger7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Professors in our college just write the formula without explaining much. Everything is marks oriented.

    • @neyhmor
      @neyhmor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lots of that comes from students, though. Many push back when expected to understand principles, unfortunately. Probably heritage of the school system

    • @Ulas_Aldag
      @Ulas_Aldag 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@neyhmor yeah you're probably right. A lot of student only want the final formulas and complain about derivations. But at the same time a university professor should always insist on showing how the formular was derived and how it's supposed to be interpreted. For the sake of academia

  • @fhz3062
    @fhz3062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stoke's Theorem (And Green's too) were the kind of theorem I just accepted as a bizarre true of the Universe when I first met them in the undergraduate course. Nowadays I understand them a little bit better. Watching prof. Button's class reminded me I still find both theorems incredible and some how magic, almost a supernatural mathematical property of the universe. The fact integrals of both sides of the equation are equal stills amuses me.

  • @English1108
    @English1108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Old video so I doubt I'll get a response, but I don't understand the justification for 20:39 when the vector field [-y x] is introduced. it feels arbitrary to make the equation work, but I am really interested in this relationship between the rotation of a closed curve and the area it encloses!!

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    @nathanzechar5599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you math bro. This is what I needed in my life. Mostly Green's theorem, I should have paid attention to that a bit more in EM.

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    @rodrigogaleano5145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is interesting to see, at min 8:58, that Prof. Brunton says that the curl points towards him. However, if you do the "righ hand rule", the rotational points towards the reader. This is just a camera effect.

  • @brunoschiffo7272
    @brunoschiffo7272 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @dhickey5919
    @dhickey5919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content. Your lessons are grounded with intuition and context. I usually end up teaching myself the math courses I've taken, because the intuition component is missing. Thank you!

  • @trejohnson7677
    @trejohnson7677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although the notation gets heavier, I find Stokes Theorem, and differential forms at large much easier to contemplate when I take the initiative to control the limit implicit in the definition of an integral. Hopefully someone groks this and it strengthens their understanding! Stokes Theorem is close to my heart, as is Fourier’s.

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your intuition on this -- always helpful to see things from a variety of perspectives!

    • @Martin-iw1ll
      @Martin-iw1ll ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought stokes and gasses theorem reduces to the same thing in differential forms

    • @trejohnson7677
      @trejohnson7677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Martin-iw1ll yea p much. That's what makes differential forms op.

  • @FreeShaima
    @FreeShaima 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An excellent explanation, thank you!

  • @gavinholmes4997
    @gavinholmes4997 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just realized you were writing backwards the whole time... amazing

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    @alaajaleel8583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing better than books and papers i hope to be like you in one day.

  • @ARHANTGHOTANEGURUNG
    @ARHANTGHOTANEGURUNG ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you soo much for such an insightful conceptual explanation! Highly appreciated the lecture!

  • @diebutter1187
    @diebutter1187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! I couldn't have wished for a better explanation!

  • @virajkadam3017
    @virajkadam3017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this... I used to be apathetic towards calculus in my ug course. This makes it so interesting.

  • @WilliamDouglasHenry
    @WilliamDouglasHenry 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful lecture. I am a UW student in mechanical engineering, and this is awesome. However, I was slightly confused where the F = [ -y, x] come from in the example

  • @mariogalindoq
    @mariogalindoq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve: you wrote:
    A=(1/2)*integral(x dy - y dx), and that is true.
    But it is also true:
    A = integral(x dy) = -integral(y dx), so basically you are computing the area two times and then dividing by 2.
    Nice video, congratulations.

  • @kedarpaulCogitoErgoSum
    @kedarpaulCogitoErgoSum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just that lecture on Stokes and Green's theorem yesterday

  • @nicolabombace2004
    @nicolabombace2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great explanation! I like how just in the way of explaining and demonstrating with the grid on the kidney bean shape, one can draw similarities between Gauss' Divergence Theorem and Green's Theorem just changing operator. It is also a visual representation that does not require mnemonics at all!
    I have as well a question:
    Is there a way to compute surface areas in 3d using Stokes Theorem? Which field should we apply?

  • @nahblue
    @nahblue ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the trick for computing the area!

  • @andersongoncalves3387
    @andersongoncalves3387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series, Dr. Brunton. Thank you!

  • @anomalous4714
    @anomalous4714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This series is fantastic. Since you mentioned potential flow for the next video, I would love to hear a bit about the Helmholtz decomposition and how its potentials relate to the flow of vector fields. Polthier and Preuß (2003; Identifying Vector Field Singularities Using a
    Discrete Hodge Decomposition) suggested a method for identifying singularities in flow fields by finding the local extrema in the Helmholtz decomposition potentials. However, I don't understand why these potentials are more informative than the local extrema in the divergence and curl of the same field?

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, and great questions. Hopefully the next couple of videos start to address these.

    • @anomalous4714
      @anomalous4714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm very much looking forward to those! Especially the last question is a mystery to me. 🤔

  • @innfdtfjord3340
    @innfdtfjord3340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks. I mean for all of us could be every interesting to hear about fractal derivative and practices using fractal derivative) Thanks.

  • @QT-yt4db
    @QT-yt4db หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great lesson. Just a one little caveat, The k direction should be pointing outward of the board, so, which "outward", the audience's "outward" or the professor's "outward"?

  • @momokhan5640
    @momokhan5640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazingly described... Thank you

  • @House19881
    @House19881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never disapointed... amazing explanation, as alwaya

  • @Martin-iw1ll
    @Martin-iw1ll ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lecture! I find interesting is that both Stokes theorem and Gauss theorem have their own versions of the green theorem that is one dimension lower than them

  • @HD141937
    @HD141937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to say that the way you draw the different curls of the boxes at 13:00 is kind of confusing. The way it's drawn suggests that the vector field changes direction at the cell boundaries. This is of course not the case in a continuous vector field. I had the same issue with the video on Gauss' divergence theorem.
    I think a better way to make the concept intuitive would be to say that the vector field has a certain direction at the cell boundary, and explain how this would contribute to curl of opposing sign in the two cells.

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting point... I'll think about how to make a nice visualization of this.

    • @ahammedafzal7797
      @ahammedafzal7797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I also felt the same...If all the curls calculated have positive direction as shown in the video,then it would all add up and no cancellation takes place...Why I think the cancellation takes place is that positive curl in one cell forces to have negative curl in the adjacent cell...I also felt the same for divergence theorem(I commented there also)

    • @HD141937
      @HD141937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahammedafzal7797 Well, it's good to realise that curl/vorticity is itself a continuous vector field. That means that its component in the direction normal to S can be positive over a finite portion of S. And since the division of S into cells is arbitrary, it is possible that adjacent cells have a positive value of the integral of vorticity over their area.
      The value of this integral over S is equal to the sum of the integrals over the individual cells. In this sense you are right to say that the terms add up.
      By applying Stokes' theorem you transform the area integrals over the cells to line integrals over the cell boundaries. The cancellation applies to the line integrals over the interfaces between cells, so that only the line integral over the boundary of S remains.
      With this in mind, the arrows drawn in the video do not represent the vector field itself, but in some sense the values of the line integrals over each segment of cell boundary.

  • @megistone
    @megistone 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video and thanks a lot! But I have left with one question.
    So, we can take any "slice" dS on the 2D surface S on 3D space and then integrate over perimeter?
    And if yes - can we take the upper "slice" dS_max (so on sphere it will be point) and what going to happen?
    And if no - how we can choose where to take "slice" dS?

  • @jacobvandijk6525
    @jacobvandijk6525 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ 1:49 This is a 3D-vector, not a 2D-vector as stated here.

  • @jx4864
    @jx4864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just a little complement, if u wonder why outer product can be calculated by determinant, you can check a concept called wedge product.

  • @joycewinn6771
    @joycewinn6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the equator integral represents the total “swirl” or curl in the northern hemisphere, does Stoke’s theorem mean that the total curl in the northern hemisphere always equals the total curl in the southern hemisphere? … and if a contour is confined to the border of a hurricane, then that integral says the total curl in the storm equals the total curl in the rest of the world?

  • @techmaster6012
    @techmaster6012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy really know how to teach respect❤

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @RobertMelville-w6x
    @RobertMelville-w6x ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation! Can you connect with a mechanical device called a "Planimeter"? It measures area by walking around the perimeter. Still useful even today!

  • @curtpiazza1688
    @curtpiazza1688 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool stuff! Great explanation! 😂 I'm watching this along with your series on complex variables!

  • @cyocs4773
    @cyocs4773 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens when The Fluid has curls in different direction because then they add up for example when there ist a positiv curl and left from it one with negative curl. They would add up in the middle and not cancel each other out so that greens or strokes equation are no longer useable.

  • @jphitidis
    @jphitidis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this series! Just a question about the graphical intuition for the curls cancelling - it doesn't seem obvious to me that the curls in the neighbouring cells will be equal and hence cancel. I have one idea to answer my own question. These areas are infinitesimal and hence so near to each other that neighbouring curls are the same because they are essentially "in the same place". Is this correct? If not, please would you explain!

    • @kolimolitornefr4644
      @kolimolitornefr4644 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think you can see the arrows canceling each other out. in the middle of the surface its obvious.
      then the arrows on the upper side of the surface get canceled by the arrows on the lower side of the surface
      i think.

  • @addyexplores
    @addyexplores หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder do they have to write laterally inverted for us to look right?

  • @ganeshramamurthi9663
    @ganeshramamurthi9663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I was paranoid in college 40 years back has become suddenly a favourite after listening to your lectures. Thank you Professor..🎉

  • @glennanderson3744
    @glennanderson3744 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mental image that Stoke's theorem conjures for me is imagining if one day, all the wind on Earth blew from the west to the east, at least along the equator. That motivates thinking of the surface integral half as a "net" or "average" curl over the surface, and in this example the "net" curl of the northern hemisphere has to sync up with all the wind on the equator blowing in the same direction.
    This mental image is intuitive for me in understanding the physical consequences and reasoning behind Stokes' theorem (assuming I understand it correctly hehe)

  • @VinayakPathak-xc6kp
    @VinayakPathak-xc6kp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why the vector field is [-y x] for the area calculation of the irregular surface ? Love your lectures ❤

  • @solaaar3
    @solaaar3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if the curls are not the same inside the surface, they wont cancels out in this case?

  • @emrekt22
    @emrekt22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there any reason as to why the vector field F for computing acres of land is ? thanks

  • @sriram7327
    @sriram7327 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir I understood about curl of the vector but why is it dotted with da???
    Pl tell me

  • @JamesSteinley
    @JamesSteinley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do you make this video? You are opposite to the plane I'm perceiving. Are you writing everything backwards. I wonder if non-calc3 matriculates would even notice this.

    • @JamesSteinley
      @JamesSteinley ปีที่แล้ว

      is there a mirror involve?

    • @JamesSteinley
      @JamesSteinley ปีที่แล้ว

      oh, yeah in your editing software, of course

  • @EnipherChawanje
    @EnipherChawanje ปีที่แล้ว

    This is understandable thanks professor

  • @sahibhasan7095
    @sahibhasan7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am the first viewer of this lecture.
    Thank you

  • @beebee_0136
    @beebee_0136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Doc. B!

  • @protosstassadar20
    @protosstassadar20 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question. Green theorem is still valid even that the shape has those spikes like in the last example? That does not makes issues due to the nondifferentiability?

    • @ainz9577
      @ainz9577 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      late on commenting so i doubt you’ll need this but it’s because it’s considered “peace wise” smooth

  • @laxmanyadav6058
    @laxmanyadav6058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very must crystal clear explation

  • @issamn.e9032
    @issamn.e9032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do the K.epselon model

  • @Anand_Agrawal
    @Anand_Agrawal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Prof. Brunton. May I ask you why are the last two videos not visible?

  • @DavyCDiamondback
    @DavyCDiamondback ปีที่แล้ว

    It's cool to think about how this shows that there is a "balance" between weather in the northern and southern hemispheres

  • @remyassier1758
    @remyassier1758 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much great explanations

  • @KeyuChen-gc9vr
    @KeyuChen-gc9vr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So helpful! Thank you!

  • @phenomenal4690
    @phenomenal4690 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm studying mechanical engineering, in what course will i learn and use this formulas ?

  • @afrozashirin7171
    @afrozashirin7171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your videos a lot. May I know what kind of tools/software do you use to make your video?

  • @SRIMANTASANTRA
    @SRIMANTASANTRA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you professor Steve

  • @trevorgdn
    @trevorgdn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 9min, I'm confused how he went from dA which was a vector to dxdy?

  • @arvindp551
    @arvindp551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the thumbnail😁

  • @xsli2876
    @xsli2876 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't get how to find out the area of the irregular shape property by walking around it and counting the # of steps on y axis and x axis. Can anybody help me? Thank you very much.

  • @geolab6193
    @geolab6193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is he left handed?

  • @adityaali176
    @adityaali176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you also do line/surface integrals?

  • @UKsebstack
    @UKsebstack 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well explained

  • @christopherpenn4921
    @christopherpenn4921 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't you just find the area of a hypocycloid by subtracting off a circle who's radius is the same as half the side length of the related square?

  • @DerekWoolverton
    @DerekWoolverton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I started watching this video I had a small headache. When I finished I had a bigger one. I guess it just seems like your are throwing away a great deal of information about the dynamics of the field by only measuring its impact on the border. When there is a hurricane approaching land, I don't really care how much its impacting the wind down in the equator; I want to know if I'm still going to have a roof on my house. Will hope further examples further explain when these aggregates are more valuable than the details of the field itself.

  • @fdggfgdfgd251
    @fdggfgdfgd251 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the blob?

  • @DiegoTomohisa
    @DiegoTomohisa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you writing backwards? Or is the video flipped once you finished recording?

    • @someonestolemyname
      @someonestolemyname 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The video is flipped, he is using a lightboard. Since he is left handed(you can check his older videos), it looks like he is writing normally to us.

  • @flaguser4196
    @flaguser4196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the planimeter is an old mechanical device that is said to measure area using green's theorem. it seems earth is flat enough for green's theorem to work, haha.

  • @spyhunter0066
    @spyhunter0066 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we just say Stokes theorem is in 3D but Green theorem is in 2D? They are indeed the same equation. In addition, what they really do is to connect the surface to the line integral for us to solve problems.

  • @DanOBrien-q1g
    @DanOBrien-q1g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    top stuff .. thanks

  • @romanowskis1at
    @romanowskis1at 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn, i have started thinking about electron flow or magnetic field like wind, that can swirl or curl.

  • @pedros8681
    @pedros8681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Am I the only one who thinks the volume is far too low?

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry about that... trying to fix this in the studio, but keep forgetting to bump it up in post...

  • @MatthewGale-s2w
    @MatthewGale-s2w 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😊 you said a bean
    Inner criteria equaling 1 to an outer of 0
    Life was considered strange
    Considering to its Masters hand not the slave of the lip

  • @vasilisbalas4431
    @vasilisbalas4431 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what blows my mind is the fact that he has to mirror everything he writes

    • @nd4000
      @nd4000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The camera is behind the transparent whiteboard and flips it.

  • @issamn.e9032
    @issamn.e9032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legend ❤️

  • @hunnidasiago746
    @hunnidasiago746 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is he writing from the back or I'm i seeing things

  • @fabiangn8022
    @fabiangn8022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gracias.

  • @gum8888
    @gum8888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are you writing on a glass board?

    • @gum8888
      @gum8888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It seems to me that lecturer we see is the image of him in the 'mirror'

  • @eggxecution
    @eggxecution ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing

  • @mariovrpereira
    @mariovrpereira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @saswatachattopadhyay1976
    @saswatachattopadhyay1976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magnificent from india