RETURN OF THE MIGHTY GHORGON - Epic Beastmen vs. Bretonnia Battle - Total War Warhammer 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2024
- UNLEASH THE MIGHTY GHORGON as Total War Warhammer 2 returns, in an EPIC Beastmen vs. Bretonnia battle with two Ghorgons, King Louen, and a horde of Bretonnian Knights.
Epic Beastmen vs. Bretonnia battle Total War Warhammer 2
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's gone back to play a couple of the other races even though the third game is out
Likewise; I've still been modding WH2 even while playing a couple WH3 campaigns.
Considering the third game is bordering unplayable without some serious willpower pushing through all the bugs, yeah lmao.
@@Bardathe111 same I love playing SFO on wh2 it's still so good. While playing here and there on a few demon campaigns
There's no shame in using a working product.
@@BorninFlames237 not going to WH3 again, until next months patch.
*Beastslayers of Bastonne:* _"A fine battle against the beasts of chaos and we weren't allowed to be a part of it..."_
A fatal misstake
WH3 is nice, and it'd be great once all game 1 and 2 races are integrated. But seeing the same few race match-ups over and over got a little old. Especially when the 4 monogods have such disappointingly small rosters.
They will get DLC, but I really think mortal empires should have been in game 3 at the start. That is the main draw, 3 games in one with assorted DLC.
I agree, not to mentioned similar rosters and completely missing mechanics like ranged or magic from most of them. I like the foundation CA laid down, but it's time for me to wait for the full experience now. Glad milkandcookiesTW is doing this content.
I was going to comment but you said everything I was going to, spot on G1ingy I could not have said it better. Good to see some WH2 after the deluge of boring Domination matches
@@rascototalwar8618 Yeh, and I think all the data for all the existing factions is already in the game. Loads of the pre-existing factions have npc factions in the campaign. You can play against them even. Why cant we use them in custom games at least???
Big miss overall.
All I'll say is that we shouldnt really hold the roster size against CA as they went for a theme and they did it well imo, but it did limit things from a multiplayer perspective its true. However I also have faith that many of those issues will be fixed when we get wh1 and 2 races and the mortal representative extensions of the chaos rosters show up.
Not gonna lie... after weeks of watching nothing but fatties & demons ( _not to mention demonic fatties!_ ) beating the snot outta one another, some good ol' TWW2 content feels like a breath of fresh air!
Tbf, we only had 2 elves, lizards and rats for game 2. Here’s we have 4 daemons, ogres and 2 humans.
I feel we’ve just been so horrifically spoiled by game 2, the starting selection feels barren in comparison. Especially Since the daemons have more varying play style than the elves did from each other.
Not a bad problem to have, but it does mean people feel the culture shock.
@@daddypudding9074 Thing is.. everyone, including CA knew that it would have to stand up to warhammer 2's content.. it's a sequel to the game afterall.. In terms of user experience the second game's starting point is not relevant, it's end point is.
what I'm saying is that going from the second to the third game should feel like an upgrade, a more impressive experience.. Instead it feels limited and small and that is a major flaw in planning in my opinion.
@@MaMastoast thing is, bar the bugs and meh realm mechanics (which are gutting and too much to be okay tbf), it is an upgrade, with HUGE diplomacy rework, reapplying items without the annoying 1 turn wait, letting you know how you got items, new flying mechanics, better reinforcement mechanics, better (not perfect) siege maps.
There’s stuff I want to change/improve (I don’t like how they nerfed character trait back to trash status), but the stuff added in is an improvement (bar the portal spawning/realm traits issues), it’s the bugs letting it down.
@@daddypudding9074 I respectfully disagree there. Obviously the bugs are a problem. But the bigger problem here is that they decided not to treat immortal empires as the main campaign. The vast majority of interest from warhammer 2 is in the mortal empires campaign, the devs know this.
By focusing the initial release on a smaller camapigned restricted to the new factions, they insured that the experience coming into the third came was sure to be smaller and less impressive as a total war experience than the second game, and that is the last thing you want.
@@MaMastoast Wh2 didn't treat IE as the main campaign either. It's because not everyone owns every game. I didn't own wh1 when i started wh2. If the only game mode required wh1 to work then i would have never bought it. The problem with wh3 is that the campaign isn't super fun, just like wh2
I'd much prefer the TWW2 content until TWW3 is fixed, loving the video indy
Oh wow feels good to see warhammer 2, i've really noticed warhammer 3 is intense on the eyes with that really deep red ui and all the bright snow and corruption and even cathay grass
Edit: and yeah the blood pack makes the fights so much better
Blood pick?
IT'S GARBAGE!
@@lokiofasgard312 blood pack dlc
yeah and the huge reinforcement icons and overly complicated health bars in warhammer 3.
@@thibautl334 Yea i don't see the reason in the trailing health bars, I just don't realise im taking damage because it looks so similar
Wild how much better the UI is in 2 compared to 3, the units look way better too. units were colliding correctly, I don't get how 3 is worse lol keep it up love the way you show battles best of all tww content
The lack of red makes it look so much better lol
I´m agnostic on the red, but it is wild how unit collisions got way worse...
Ah. Simpler times when I didn’t have to pause my campaign for weeks waiting for a patch lol.
Glad to see this back, 3 has so much potential to be amazing, but its going to take time to get as good as 2. This is just better to watch right now.
I have no idea why, but after only seeing game 3 gameplay for 2 months it just FEELS better to watch Warhammer 2 gameplay. I noticed immediately that the visuals are different, but I can't put my finger on why. Maybe it's the lighting or just that I've spent a ton of time in Lustria. Warhammer 2 just looks far more appealing to me.
Something about WH3’s design feels arcade-y to me. Maybe it’s the ui, maybe it’s the units, I don’t quite know
warhammer2 is simply a more "subtle" game than the third one.. which is kinda crazy considering the vasy array of crazy fantasy races it features.. But since the third game is mostly all about over the top daemons your eyes never get to rest on something more "normal", it's trapped in extremes all the time... making it kinda exhausting.
Finally, some gameplay from good total war
I'm so happy you went back to WH2. This battle was glorious my dude.
Looking forward to when Warhammer 3 will actually be a playable game.
Lol I'm relying on mods to make it playable for me 😂😂
For real.
Yeah at this point I just want immortal empires. Multiplayer is really fun but the chaos realms campaign sucks
its literally unplayable for me. Game breaking crashes when recruiting new army or when trying to play single battle ;/
I personally stopped playing until workshop comes out, at that point the modding will basically let us play mini immortal empires - until then it's shelved for me.
Finally, the good Warhammer game is back on the channel.
Watching this feels like seeing the sequel to warhammer 3
It's SO good to see the other races again! Thank you!
Wow, in TWW2 units actually engage in melee with each other instead of going through? Would you look at that :D
Idk what's worse, a useless front line, or useless 0 mass cav
amazing micro from the brettonia player, 1 big mistake imo was spending so much time with louen and the pegasus knights trying to catch an uncatchable character while they couldve been elsewhere
I didn't realize how much I miss the blood pack until I saw this video. Also the beastmen
14:15 a true damsel in distress moment
One of my favorite builds in my last days playing Warhammer 2 was double Ghorgon!! I was totally addicted to it lol.
It's come to this, then. I've went back to WH2 also playing Grombrindal and battles are so much funner.
Tww2 looks so much better than 3, love that your back showcasing its battles it has been missed
Oh, I missed Warhammer 2 fractions so much!
Thanks for this battle Indy. Those cavalry charges. Oh damn, did they look good! Can't wait for playing ye olde medieval 2 faction (brettonia) against the demon hordes but this will more than do for now.
Malagor, staying in the air and watching his gor herd get picked off and slaughtered: "That's wack."
One of the best videos on the channel
i love the return to warhammer 2, i honestly feel like Warhammer 3 shouldn't have been released until immortal empires or at the very least the old world races being in multiplayer was a completed thing.
It's pretty depressing.
There was a time when Warhammer 2 did not have that huge campaign. Still it's going a bit too late with the third one.
@@OST1350 i know there was, but after all the stuff that game 2 added, trying to do it again with game 3 is just.. unsatisfying
@@OST1350 Difference being that warhammer 2 was a sequel toa game that did not have it either, where as the third game feels small and limited compared to the second one.. It's a failure in planning imo.
THey should've simply treated IM as the main campaign
Ah Yes! Malagor! A great battle I had against him in a Drycha campaign! I decided to send an army to the Badlands for Fun! After many battles and capturing Ekrund, I attacked Malagor and killed all his armies! Usually flying units must land after all that! But, Malagor…
He kept flying…until all the archers were out of ammo and it took half an hour to somehow naw him down!
He still escaped…but, he died at his herdstone several long sieges later!
This makes me miss the blood and dismemberment effects. I think CA's rating excuse for not including it is very old school. M rated games clearly sell. I don't have data to back this up, but some of the most popular games on earth have blood and gore.
We got:
blood fountains
demons screaming blood for the blood god
deamons taking a dump on people
lots of dark dialouge
Sexual actions hinted at
What M rating cares about:
people imploding in blood and losing their limbs
It does look really, really, really silly that this bloodpack is supposed to save the M rating.
@@Emi_Tempi rating has nothing to do with this. There are plenty of games where blood and gore is part of the game and are pegi 16. Blood DLC is simply a cash grab. Show me another game who sells blood separately
@@Asraeks I mean, at something like 1.99 and free for the other games if you bought it once, it’s a pretty shitty cash grab 😂
@@daddypudding9074 and you put it into every game since shogun 2, this is very good cash grab
Not gonna lie despite all of the graphical optimizations in III I really find myself wanting to go back to II after 80 hours and one campaign in III.
I've actually been able to get an awesome vampire counts vs dwarves in Warhammer 3 it was soooo much fun to watch, playing as kislev I was there ally as soon as I got into the match I retreated everyone except one unit and just watched them all fight it was pretty sick
You sound like a great ally!
@@deadlyydude5522 😂😂😂 whenever a battle like this happens I end up just betraying my allies and taking the settlement them theirs I call it strategy 😂
@@chase5233 Tzeentch would approve
Am I crazy for saying that I prefer the way Warhammer 2 looks, at least, sometimes? Warhammer III looks kinda cartoony by comparison, not a huge fan of that...
Your not wrong lol
I find the game setting looks better, but all the UI elements are too colourful and cartoony.
I found that Warhammer II hits an almost perfect balance between realistic textures and terrain and the obviously cartoonish designs and animations of Warhammer itself. It feels like a proper fantasy world whereas Warhammer 3 looks like something out of Dota or Warcraft
Yeah I noticed the campaign map immediately the first time I got to play it and I thought it looked wayyyy too different and not in a good way necessarily
Yes, Warhammer 3 on "high quality lighting" Cranks up the color Contrast, Saturation and bloom to Maximum and it makes the demons look like playdough monsters & Empire soldiers have Blindingly bright shiny armor
Gotta say, I missed the bloody reaction troops give in Warhammer 2. Tried to start a khorne campaign, but when I observe the battle, it just takes me out of it when no blood is spilled in his glory.
Ahh back to a good game I see. Same, same.
Wow Indy this is awesome! It almost makes up for you talking smack about Greasus.
I just started a good ol' Empire campaign and I love it
Damn, that was a good match!
That damsel is just built different, absolute chad
Can't wait for WH3 to have access to all the races and variation of WH2.
The image of the girl int he dress fleeing from the gigantic gorgon is just absolutely hilarious.
If IE is gonna take a while to get, I'd love for CA to at least enable the older races for multiplayer
Love your work Indie! Keep it up 🤟
Going back to WH2 is about the best way to voice your concerns about WH3.
Meanwhile in my Beastmen campaign that was merely on hard, a Ghorgon couldn't take out a single Dreadspears unit that was not braced when charged.
This game plays so much better than 3
Mmmmhmmmm, TWW 2 just looks so nice. I like the realistic look better than the new cartoony style.
It'll be a long time till TWW 3 is this good.
That Damsel has been playing Elden Ring
Can't wait to play Beastmen and Bretonia in Domination
Gotta say it's probably not the best sign that our boy Indy is back at WH2 instead of 3 but tbf we're trapped in that horrible limbo between the release of the base game and Immortal Empires much like at the beginning of WH2's cycle - I'm just happy for more content and jokes
Love the Warhammer 2 indypride content!
Love the strawberry fields reference xD
damn good, real bret and beast type action awesome
Damsel not distress whatsoever.
Can't wait for Domination with all the races. (and Immortal Empires ofc)
Just noticed that Keepers of Secrets are just perverted Gorghons, CA worked really hard bringing new stuff.
I miss my cav builds with Bretonnia. I might have to play WH2 today when I get off work.
The ghorgon tossed the damsel's salad lol
thanks man!
I don't understand why everyone made the transition to wh3 so abrupt
Yeh I went back to play dwarves
The song feel alive by suici silence reminds me of this video
Game 2 is such a breath of fresh air. I really dislike game 3 which breaks my heart. The races, map, color scheme... Game 2 is just a masterpiece
after 4 years of content. It had soooo many QoL changes over its lifespan that its amazing now. but on release? Wh2 wasn't that great
@@awsomeman350 yes j know but jt was far more fun, exciting and unique then 3
@@Vietnam_Chr0nicles was it? the factions weren't that fleshed out, and some of the rosters were very small. There were only 4 rosters on release, wh3 had 8 on release. I wouldn't call dinosaur men more unique then crab demons. I feel like a lot of wh2 fans suffer from recently bias. because wh2 in its current state is a masterpiece, but it sure wasn't when it released.
He should've reserved the poison mountain archers for the late game. I think it could've made the difference in the last duel.
Beastmen and Slannesh seem every similar with hit and run tactics
i missed some of the old factions
Simply. Thank you. The new factions are okay, but they don't have the same good feel of the TWW2 factions.
Imagine this, a God saves Warhammer III from itself.
nice match! the feast on human flesh shall commence!
Some may say that going back to TWW2 is an act of abandoning TWW3 but the vids are good and the youtuber needs content. So please dont shitpost youtubers for doing so.
Also, Here's hoping we see more SFO content before Mortal Empires for 3 comes out. (if it ever does lol)
Yeah I can’t fault them, until we get Immortal Empires Warhammer 2 just has a greater diversity of units and factions.
It is an abandonment, but a well deserved one.
Why would we talk smack to youtubers for not playing that piece of shit game when most of us not play it either?
I hope more of them goes back to Wh2. Wh3 is a total disaster.
I'm going to be launching an epic WH2 campaign this weekend.
Meowmen Yomen are Bretonnian cavalry that ride atop their feline steeds.
OH NO NO NO SHILLBROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
CA BROS WE CAN'T KEEP LOOSING LIKE THIS!!
This should be the pinned comment.
now noticing Keeper of Secrets share a skeleton with Ghorgons
Recently I also play back warhammer 2 just feel normal again without Siege rework
The reason i like double axe gors vs brettonia is that brettonia tends not to really shoot them. they are focused trying to stop you ghorgon or mino's. so the MD defense is fine but slashing though their infantry and pressuring their archers is beter
Man that Bretonnia player practically did everything right, good skill, good luck, and yet still lost.
Can Bretonnia please get some love in warhammer 3? Maybe something that can slay big monsters? You know, the thing Bretonnian Knights are famous for above all else yet cannot do in total warhammer?
Grail knights ruin large targets, and so can peasant bowmen. Bretonnia has the tools. At the very most they need a buff to AP for one of their bonus vs large cav.
@@maxwhite4177 *at the very least
not sure we need to argue that something is wrong with a faction and they need buffs any time they lose a battle lol. Fay Double Paladin is one of the strongest, most cost effective meta combos in WH2, and Peasant Bowmen can shred Ghorgons very quickly if kept online and safe. Even the Mounted Yeomen would have been enough if more ammo had been conserved
I'm saying dude, and that beastman player was so sloppy and just got folded the whole game smh
@@blake4770 That's just what happens when build roulette is a thing. Bretonnia player played well, but 2-3 peasant bowmen would have made that battle drastically different.
Hell yeah more WH2
Yo Great to see this vid, what do you think of a daemon of chaos ffa battle
I never thought I would see so many warhammer 2 videos come back. But early access game 3 has been too much to handle for people. Sadge
Zoats ween lol? Still waiting for it
We need the numbers back in WH2 multiplayer!
I still play warhammer 2 to play with the races and factions that aren't in game 3 yet. Mostly orcs and beastmen.
Even if they don’t release mortal empires right away they should still at least make game one and two races playable for multiplayer.
That Savage dominion at the start was not worth it. You could achieve basically the same result with Bray Scream with a lot more flexibility and less WOM cost
Beautiful
How much Pegasus Knights are going to get from the landing toggle in game 3? Is there hope they are going to be more useful or is it just a minor buff for them?
ahh the classics
I can’t say I’m not a little disappointed from some of WH3, but honestly I’m loving the factions atm, they pretty much added in all the chaos daemon stuff AND created new units to flesh them out more.
The diplomacy overhaul is great, just not a fan of the “too many trade partners” malus.
The realm of chaos mechanic is a bit meh, but I like the inclusion of their mentioned changes.
And tbh, I liked vortex, it was a smaller scale but still big campaign where I wasn’t waiting for a million end turns, and enjoyed the little story time cutscenes, since it made me feel like I truly was watching a story from the warhammer world. Honestly I played it more than mortal empires, and with literally thousands of hours on the game, I feel like I’ve only played it less than those who play it as their literal full time career choice. Mortal empires always ended up a little bit too aimless for me, which sometimes was fine, but other times I liked the narrative goal of vortex.
I think once the new patch comes out, it’ll fix most of the non optimisation issues for me.
Just waiting for the first baller DLC ^^
Personally, while I don't mind the daemon factions in principle, releasing a game where the majority of factions you can play as/encounter are chaos Daemons really takes away from the experience for me.
I think it's very cool to fight Daemons as a dwarven faction, or as elves, or empire.. because there's a contrast there.. The people of the world standing their ground against this outside force.. But when almost everything is chaos, it's very difficult to be immersed in the world imo.. there is no baseline for me to relate to.
I can't relate to the diplomacy much, because as Cathay I can only really talk to the other cathay faction and possible some ogres.. there's no world when all your neighbours are chaos worshippers.
when playing as the Daemons, it's a similar issue.. If I play as Khorne daemons, I wanna slaughter some mortals, not bicker with other Daemons all the time, it's not an intesresting contrast to me.. it's too much, too over the top ya kno.ally talk to the other cathay faction and possible some ogres.. when playing as the Daemons, it's a similar issue.. If I play as Khorne daemons, I wanna slaughter some mortals, not bicker with other Daemons all the time, it's not an intesresting contrast to me.. it's too much, too over the top ya kno.
Until game 3 is sorted, game 2 can fix the wounds. Also is this ultra unit size cuz if so n1
Hey mate, maybe you can help me with an answer: what does the speed number in a unit card means?For example Malagor, who has 121 speed.What does that number measure?What is the unit of measurement for that number?It's meters/second, or meters/10 second, or meters/minute or it's even meters?I looked all over the place what is the unit of measurement for that speed stat and i did not fiind anything.
I'm not really sure tbh, I just use it in context of the game and other units. I know that regular Knights and heavy cav generally run at 66 speed, so use that as a baseline and you get a general idea of how fast things are, with infantry typically in the 28-38 range, and light cav/flyers typically around 90+
@@milkandcookiesTW Yeah i know the general frame of how fast are the units relative to one another, i was interested to know what that actual number is measuring .Cause it has to have some unit of measurement.Someone said that it's cells per minute but i dont know what a cell is on the battle map.
Anyway thanks for your answer mate!
Hi folks, how do I recruit the Gorgon in the Campaign? I don't find any building to recruit it. :(
I hate seeing bretonnia lose! I feel like anyone who plays them competitively are incredible as they are so underpowered! Buff my Grail boys CA come on!!!
How I miss thee, fair Bretonia.
Crow Daddy FTW
I really wish Cathay didn't exist and game 3 wasn't ass. Sad. Atleast we'll always have this gem.
So maybe I don't understand the mechanics of the game making, but why aren't the factions of Warhammer 2 included with the factions of Warhammer 3. Was it to big of an undertaking? Or is Warhammer 3 supposed to just focus on Chaos?
they will get added when the Immortal Empires combined campaign update is finished
Is the lighting here better?
Like more realistic?
So good
MEOWTED!!!
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