Role of the Back Leg on the Tennis Serve

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    The primary role of the back leg on the tennis serve is rhythm. It is also important for balance purposes in the trophy phase of the serve.
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  • @IntuitiveTennis
    @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Related Videos:
    The Passive Leg Drive 👉 th-cam.com/video/3Tzk6IAH4VQ/w-d-xo.html
    Role of the Legs on Serve 👉 th-cam.com/video/rSPc480H9uo/w-d-xo.html

    • @eleanorfrazier8337
      @eleanorfrazier8337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every pro tennis player I watch bends the knees while serving. You do not. Why?

    • @robertorolfo
      @robertorolfo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eleanorfrazier8337 He definitely bends his knees. Not sure what you are watching.

    • @MyBoldface
      @MyBoldface 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This instruction is spot on. I finally figured out what's wrong with my platform serve! Amazing insights. Many thanks. Just a question, does the same rule apply in the case of the pinpoint stance in terms of putting most of the weight on the front foot?

  • @kevinchang8090
    @kevinchang8090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    oh. my. god. I've been driving primarily with my back leg this whole time and thought it was correct...I serve pinpoint and I brought my right leg up to the left and had my weight on my left leg to do it...but then I realize now that I've been shifting the weight back to the right foot when I completed my step forward (killing all my forward momentum) and then driving from there with my back leg. The thing is, I've always been pretty happy with my serve...but I just made a few practice serves and I'm getting similar effect with far less effort this way. Thank you!
    -
    I want to emphasize that my serve was still satisfyingly powerful before, but I had to put a lot of effort into it. It just goes to show that sometimes improvement isn't about getting a better effect, but about creating the same effect more efficiently.

  • @kostisv
    @kostisv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Tried this today on my match! It gave my serve great rythm and effortless power. Thank you Intuitive Tennis!

  • @ripleypipe
    @ripleypipe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nick, at last clarity regarding this phase of the serve, thank you.

  • @NStewF
    @NStewF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This is without a doubt the best discussion EVER on the timing of the toss!!! I’ve been releasing while shifting my weight backwards with inconsistent tosses and serves- having to rush to catch up to hit the ball.
    Today I tried waiting to release the ball once my weight began shifting forward and the increase in ease of power was unreal. Thank you Coach Nick for providing excellent content that no one else does!

    • @NStewF
      @NStewF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      BTW, Coach Nic’s series on the role of the wrist in all aspects of the game was also extremely helpful! The information is so current in relation to the game as it is being played today. Coach Nic presents important detail that “escapes” other coaches. I’ve got my alert on so that I can watch the videos as soon as they are released.

    • @Marek333MM
      @Marek333MM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NStewF Totally agree. Nick is the best.

    • @FrancisAsin-Gioro
      @FrancisAsin-Gioro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You even don’t have a coach in real life?

    • @richardburt6962
      @richardburt6962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Redtube

  • @Silverhands
    @Silverhands 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video is platinum. As platinum is rarer and soon to be more expensive than gold.

  • @dmitryprivate6558
    @dmitryprivate6558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One thing I take from your video is the importance of tossing the ball ONLY inside the court. I agree that tossing outside is a sure way to mess up. Especially on the second serve I need to always toss inside (which I have not done consistently :(
    Thank you for the video, Nikola!

  • @jawsjawsjawsjaws
    @jawsjawsjawsjaws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    PURE GOLD
    Thanks Nick, this is the exact information I needed. Amazing that you just made this video as I was just thinking about these concepts!

  • @cacaoperesoso732
    @cacaoperesoso732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This guy is a mathematical genius 👏

  • @joepalumbo5340
    @joepalumbo5340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Personally this was amazingly timely ... just this week I was trying to change my motion to place and *leave* my weight on the back foot thinking that was a correction I needed ... and was discouraged because I couldn't get beyond the total awkwardness that resulted ... rhythm was destroyed ... this video is an enormous relief!

    • @Eliath1984
      @Eliath1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      for me I'd say best thing to do is just let your body naturally go through the motion.. don't worry so much about the motion and just let your body naturally accelerate and you'll notice that it naturally wants to rock forward into the ball... when I was younger and a competitive player the moment I stopped fighting the natural rhythm.. was the moment that I added power and much easier spin and consistency. you can tweak the rhythm but if you fight it you are gonna break the stroke. that goes for all shots honestly.. the more natural you can keep it the easier it is to get that racket head speed without muscling it

  • @dctrex
    @dctrex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for explaining something I have had questions on for years! Very subtle points that I've never heard effective explain before

  • @connorbevins9428
    @connorbevins9428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for making these videos! Your videos have helped me so much to improve my tennis game and my knowledge of the game!

  • @antoniobriciomoreno7190
    @antoniobriciomoreno7190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best tennis tutorials channel in TH-cam.
    Free profesional tennis lessons.
    Tks for share Nikola

  • @hi_vince
    @hi_vince ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By far the best tennis instruction on this topic on youtube!
    My leg problems (loading too much on back foot + shot push type motion + back knee bending away from court) are all addressed directly here, and it's clear that it's very connected to my bad toss (not tossing forward enough). Thanks Nick!

  • @miketang7533
    @miketang7533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great explanation. Help understanding the whole body mechanics of the toss and the trophy position relationship.
    👍🎾🙏

  • @ba177ba18
    @ba177ba18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another helpful tip from this channel. I learn so much from it

  • @craigthompson7017
    @craigthompson7017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a very good lesson! I love all of your instructional videos

  • @armandgallanosa
    @armandgallanosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most useful tennis site, bar none, on TH-cam. Thank you every day for priceless information you post!!

  • @wasabiattack
    @wasabiattack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for clearing this up. I was so confused whether the toss should happen with the weight shift from back to front or front to back.

  • @huntsail3727
    @huntsail3727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent, very clearly presented. Thanks

  • @technomama1
    @technomama1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible narrative, thank you so much.

  • @kumarsabaratnam4787
    @kumarsabaratnam4787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very fine tech info to find the rhythm of serve. Thanks for sharing .

  • @K4R3N
    @K4R3N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely one of the best serve videos on TH-cam.

  • @swalterstennis
    @swalterstennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    At USTA High Performance Continuing Education Clinic, Director Paul Lubbers told me that the optimum loading weight is 60% on BACK foot and 40% on FRONT foot.
    You’re saying you can’t toss forward (of the baseline) while loading any weight on back foot? Why not? If you lean forward too early, you’re getting nothing from the back foot. The ground reaction force which starts the kinetic chain is enhanced by pushing against the ground with BOTH feet. If 90% of the weight is on the FRONT foot, good luck trying to get height up to contact. The pushing of the ground by BOTH feet which will extend and straighten the legs, is what drives the Racket lag down the back and creates the whip-like throwing off the racket. No leg push, less lag and snap. Just like on a forehand.
    I want my lag and snap driven by BOTH legs pushing and straightening, not just ONE leg.
    A small increase in height yields added benefits trying to get the ball to clear the net too.
    Tell me where I’m mistaken. Mark Kovacs also says load the back foot. Good video.
    Just tell me where I’m wrong.

    • @sassanxersi1027
      @sassanxersi1027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your question and explanation is valid, of course. I am not a coach but during years I have seen many coaches explaining it differently. For example please watch Jeff Salzenstein explains this 40-60 weight on the back foot. However in his other videos you will notice his contact point is behind the baseline and he is more sideways at the contact point than one usually must be (flat serve i mean). He considers this correct. Maybe that's another correct, I can't contradict a coach, but I found Monsieur Aracic to be more accurate and to the point in this regard. Leaning forward while having weight on the back leg is a bit awkward.
      There is absolutely no kinetic chain from the ground in the game of Tennis, it's a hype. Feet of course press against the ground, but this is a secondary drive to come out of the bend and prepare body for the lift. The main drive in tennis is always torso rotation. Comparing to an airplane, I resolved it like this for myself:
      torso rotation is the main jet power
      pressing legs against the ground is the small drive that adjusts the wing.
      As I said I am not a coach, just my opinion. regards.

    • @Tennisfiles
      @Tennisfiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same question, I've interviewed Dr. Kovacs several times and he brings up 60% back foot load all the time so I am wondering how to reconcile this with the video.

    • @jasonandjustinbangs6011
      @jasonandjustinbangs6011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Completely agree, Steve Walters. Don't think he'll tell you where you're wrong here, notice how he has ignored this. I think he also referenced Venus Williams who is also a case of ineffective serve technique which has caused her ab injuries over the years. This video felt directed at Dr. Mark Kovacs instruction of back leg loading -- I think people are just misinterpreting his instruction. I can literally shift my hip forward right now (archers bow) in a serve loading stance and still load my back leg -- give it a try (thus disproving this video). Back leg loading and whether the toss is into the court or not seem to also be independent of each other -- unrelated.

    • @swalterstennis
      @swalterstennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, you can lean back a little and stick your hip out. And of course the back for leaves the ground a little earlier on all the pros serves. . It would be hard not to!

    • @bennyc9265
      @bennyc9265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I traditionally rock back and toss forward. But I’ve always felt limited on serve speed. However, I’ve been doing back load drills for the last 6 practice sessions and feel my serve mph go up w/o really trying hard to accelerate my racquet head speed. So I kind of agree more with Kovacs and Macci shot-put approach. Once it’s timed right, the ball seems to just pop off the racquet easily.

  • @wangrobbie6867
    @wangrobbie6867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Compared to other confusing videos, this one tells the key.

  • @hansolsson3409
    @hansolsson3409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice lesson Nick, i like it!

  • @vvardhan14
    @vvardhan14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he is very very good...helped me a lot with my serve with his videos.

  • @budg.6094
    @budg.6094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Extremely interesting! I have always thought that in any correct athletic motion, various fundamentals help make other fundamentals happen also. (Hope that makes sense.) Here, I like the idea of getting the toss in the right place, and that will naturally make the player want to get onto his front leg in order to make contact. Great video.

  • @asbestomolesto
    @asbestomolesto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is enlightening!!!

  • @NuwanDhanushkaRandeni
    @NuwanDhanushkaRandeni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very nice explanation for back foot to front foot weight transfer servers

  • @umenon1
    @umenon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nick, thank you for this wonderful analysis. I actually tried loading my back foot in the trophy position and served a basket of balls like that. I ended up with knee problems in my right knee (I'm a right hander) that didn't go away for several weeks! If I hadn't come across this video of yours I might have done more damage to my knee! The Federer trophy position is misleading because he is not leaning into the court like Sampras and that can be confused with having a lot of weight on the back foot when in fact he probably didn't have more than 10% on it.

  • @fehadrashid9321
    @fehadrashid9321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really want to meet you and thankyou in person.
    I live one the worst corners of the world where a tennis court was built just 5 years back.. if it weren't for you i would have been still struggling to play , or more probably given up on it and hated the game..
    Thankyou Nick..
    You really are the best teacher/ coach / instructor out there on the youtube..
    The best part is you explain the mistakes so well.
    I keep waiting for your videos.
    All the best..

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Fehad. Keep training 🙏

    • @fehadrashid9321
      @fehadrashid9321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@IntuitiveTennis everyday sir..
      Thankyou for being there for us.. 🙏

  • @user-zf3ue4nr5g
    @user-zf3ue4nr5g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's exactly what I had been experienced and come through by myself recently, at some point I think I actually got some talent ( ~just want to show off a little bit here XD)
    Always thank you Nick for the discourse from heaven~~

  • @SummitSeeker546
    @SummitSeeker546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve played tennis for over 50 years. The motion Sampras, McEnroe, Federer use is right. Frankly the key is tossing the ball 6-10 inches in front of the baseline and roughly 4-6 inches to the right of your front foot drawing your weight forward. The other key component is a loose grip. In high school we practiced just the toss frequently. Making sure it hits that spot 6-10in I front and 4-6in to the right. That’s key! I’m 61 years old and still have a formidable serve. Frankly my second serve is more of a weapon because of the kick. The returner can only slice it back.

  • @akaebbassouan4979
    @akaebbassouan4979 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Des conseils pratiques et précieux pour une amélioration du service
    Awesome !

  • @juliusbutcon7330
    @juliusbutcon7330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant wait to try this coach nick ...im always worried with my foot when serving bcoz refs always call foot fault...thats why l will take out my foot a little bit further from the line and just serve a little bit slower coz im not confident at all.... thanks coach nick

  • @vincestook104
    @vincestook104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic Coaching....

  • @hingemethod5938
    @hingemethod5938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can u explain the marc kovacs serve technique. He says back leg

  • @ilhanrefioglu6616
    @ilhanrefioglu6616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great topic and an excellent explanation...can you pls tackle the role of the bending of the back, tilt and leaning into the court but yet still keep the bend of the back at impact...the role and importance of each...no one has tackled this complexity in serve action... thank you

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Covered it here 👉 th-cam.com/video/J47_Kzpowgw/w-d-xo.html

  • @tberry79
    @tberry79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks!

  • @turtlerabbit3621
    @turtlerabbit3621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you. Been doing it wrong all this time.

  • @PrecisionPointTennis
    @PrecisionPointTennis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent 👌

  • @b2m59
    @b2m59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This vedio has answered my doubt if I should use my back leg more.

  • @dl0903
    @dl0903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do load on my back leg, and that cause a shallow racquet drop for me . Thx nick!

  • @brenhugh
    @brenhugh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brilliant vid as always, Nick, but you missed on thing on the Pistol Pete serve-you must have your tongue hanging out.

  • @pencilcheck
    @pencilcheck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool. This makes sense. I don't do rocking motion though. However I don't think about weight on which leg because it is irrelevant for me.

  • @stephendefferari1559
    @stephendefferari1559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just depends, most people who do pinpoint shift it with the toss. I have a bad left knee so I had to adjust my serve motion so most of my weigh goes back and drops on my back leg, I actually made my serve more powerful in the process, even with most of the weight on my back leg, Ive seen some d1 players serve this way too, and seems to work fine

  • @pirus564
    @pirus564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am not sure this is universal. It looks to me.federrer has his weight on the back leg during trophy position. He certainly not leaning forward when he starts to toss the ball.

    • @minhvu1184
      @minhvu1184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nothing is really universal, but this is mostly for people who have problems on their serve and need to fix it. If you already have a good serve (like roger does) then no need to fix anything.

    • @progressivedemagogue8480
      @progressivedemagogue8480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct

  • @gregoryphillips3969
    @gregoryphillips3969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know that you understand tennis. But Ric Macci teaches that the server should be launching upward off of the back foot. I like most of your videos but Macci is right. His record speaks for itself. It's possible to get the toss in a good spot and still come up off of the back leg.

  • @xiaoxiao8523
    @xiaoxiao8523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This cleared a lot of things up for me, very helpful!
    When one has the tendency to serve off the front leg alone, what would be the cause of it, and how to correct it?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There could be multiple causes and corrections necessary

  • @1huishi
    @1huishi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vlog nic. One question : when I push off from the ground (pinpoint), which foot provides the most force ?thx

  • @desy2478
    @desy2478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it ok to have a different leading foot angle on first a second serve? If I'm feeling confident I like to have my leading foot pointed slightly more towards the net to do a flat serve and allow that body rotation but for my kick serve I like to have it parralel to the line to help me stay side on and twist the knee less.

  • @ahmet8591
    @ahmet8591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, ı think very right Technic , for tennis serve

  • @adma2079
    @adma2079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Nikola, I disagree with you on this one. If you watch Roger Federer flat serve videos you can see that initially his main driver is the right leg, then the left leg takes over. This movement is not as evident, or it is not happening in slice serves or topspin serves . This is the reason for which Roger is tossing the ball very little into the court on flat serves.
    As you also explain, the weight has to be on right foot, with some commenting that a ratio of 60-70% weight on right/back foot and 40-30% on left/front foot. How can you push that 60-70% of body weight into the ball, if not pushing first on right/back foot? Why is the right foot first off the ground, if right foot does not push first? Why is the left foot still touching the ground and still pushing for a little awhile? It is because the left foot takes over after the right foot does the first thrust. And then the right/back foot kicks back to counter balance the serving arm movement toward the left side of the body. These comments are mostly about the flat serve. In slice and topspin serves, the contribution of "right/back foot pushing first" is very much diminished, since one no longer puts flat/direct body weight into the ball.
    You probably have a very effective serve, however it seems that there is a disconnect between your lower body and upper body. Most likely your flat serve power comes from other power sources (strong upper body, pronation, etc), not from leg drive. This disconnect could be an advantage when serving slice and topspin serves. Cheers

  • @mattiastennis
    @mattiastennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be good to have a look at Miami Matches right now. I think Medvedev is looking strong but it will be a contest between him, Tsitsipas and maybe Karastev. Interesting to see Musetti growing stronger each tournament. Kokkinakis is making a gradual return

  • @spartaktennis6884
    @spartaktennis6884 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have mess in my dead. Some tennis experts say that the back foot should be mostly loaded to jump, others - both foots. It might depends of which serve to use - flat, or kick? Thanks

  • @gerardovitaliani9318
    @gerardovitaliani9318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Nick. How difficult it makes me think of a move that I make intuitively! I will try to review it. I can ask you why, on serve, high-level players lift their feet off the ground so much that they even continue to do so after hitting. Is it related to the abdominal compression of the "core" for greater shooting power?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you. I explain it here 👉 th-cam.com/video/rSPc480H9uo/w-d-xo.html

  • @christianhorner001
    @christianhorner001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Coach, take a close look at Boris Becker's serve technique. I'd love to see an analysis of his back leg movement.

    • @TheTennisDaddy
      @TheTennisDaddy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He loads the back hip well and at first look can look like more weight on the back foot, but in slow motion you see he still has both heels off the ground and looks like more weight on the front foot

    • @christianhorner001
      @christianhorner001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheTennisDaddytake a closer look. What leg does he land on?

    • @TheTennisDaddy
      @TheTennisDaddy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christianhorner001 he always landed on his right foot unlike anyone else so I guess you’re saying he must be pushing off the back foot more because of that rotation?

  • @zerogizmoninin957
    @zerogizmoninin957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You just fixed my serve😇

  • @megamind9175
    @megamind9175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid! What about the toss for a kick serve? Is there way to get forward momentum whilst still getting the toss right for a kick serve?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely 👉 th-cam.com/video/yMlpuFUG8N0/w-d-xo.html

  • @roberthaar
    @roberthaar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My tendency is to have too much weight forward and unsteady feet during trophy pose and early racket drop. Better for me is too have a little more weight on back leg. Helps prevent serves from going long.

  • @jonzales333
    @jonzales333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo great stuff as usual. Hey after watching your weird rackets vid, would you ever make a racket gimmick debunk video?
    Ive played with various prince o3 rackets since they first came out and I personally love them. But I remember when all companies were trying to bring the next big thing. Head had flexpoints and a microchip that stiffened strings? Wilson put rollers in rackets, Volkl put some spring/catapult mechanic, Prokennex put loose ball bearings inside the hoop.
    Would be cool to see you test out gimmick rackets and debunk which ones work and which ones are marketing garbage.

  • @eddiedantes7470
    @eddiedantes7470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    About the weight transfer from the back to the front foot, another good example would be Tommy Haas. Thanks coach.

  • @IWTACoaching
    @IWTACoaching 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can anyone name a throwing sport where the front leg does more work than the back leg?
    Didn’t think so

  • @JoseEduardo-zv9ce
    @JoseEduardo-zv9ce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if the weight is in the front leg, how do you explain tennis players landing with the front foot half meter into the court?

  • @jackspradlin4183
    @jackspradlin4183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely a controversy, for a good while I heard nothing but what you are saying concerning back leg, recently heard top teachers like Rick Macci say most of weight on back leg when driving up to ball, whe is talking platform stance. Always heard pinpoint weight more equal

  • @kevinstoneham1245
    @kevinstoneham1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a recurring dream where I am serving. It is always indoors though with a low ceiling so I cannot toss the ball up properly.

  • @jasonmarks6080
    @jasonmarks6080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is a leg drag not an option for the back leg? The touch seems like an opportunity to time the weight shift

  • @thangmeu
    @thangmeu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a paid full course tennis stroke/training video?

  • @tophersuwita
    @tophersuwita ปีที่แล้ว

    Why my back leg is flailing when I jump for the serve? The ball goes in but the form is a bit "ugly". I load the front leg, then jump into the court, but I can't control my back leg which flails when I take the jump

  • @MergeManny
    @MergeManny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:53 well isn’t the is because they are super tall? Wouldn’t a shorter player want to go more upwards than into the court due to stature?

  • @mjj3132
    @mjj3132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an older player (older than you), is there a benefit to putting less focus on leg drive, and more on hip and shoulder rotation? My knees suck, but I think if I focus on rotating my hips, then squaring my shoulders through the toss, I can get surprisingly good explosiveness.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good question, with the right fundamentals legs come up on their own at any age. I have some 70+ yo players and they get airborne effortlessly

  • @king0vdarkness
    @king0vdarkness 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a video suggestion: how to stop short arming the serve

  • @ThePomelo09
    @ThePomelo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember Gaston Gaudio serve

  • @tomhicks3549
    @tomhicks3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kevin Garlington seems to be contradicting you. This the comment I sent him: Use the Golf weight transfer to analyze this. I think an Impulse curve over time starting at the instant the leg drive begins until liftoff of both feet might help analyze the theory. The area under this curve might be the answerer The impulse curve is force on the Y and Time on the X. The difficulty’s might be there is a direction component that might get lost and maybe the weight of the person should be removed that might not be possible. Also Nikola Arabic is contradicting your claim but I think he’s wrong also. I think there is significant back foot leg drive from pinpoint but less than 50%. Look at Zeverev There is probably much less than 50% from platform. Another point is that when the back foot lifts off the impulse continues on the front foot. Maybe it’s small but maybe not. Please please please try to prove this. The head golf pro at Cedar Ridge would probably be happy to help you. I believed everting you ever said but this one sounds wrong.

  • @justindifeliciantonio5140
    @justindifeliciantonio5140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Federer tosses the ball behind the baseline and loads on the back leg.
    Other great servers like Groth or Isner come from back foot to front foot.
    Is the difference explained by different kinetic chain between platform stance and feet together stance before impact?
    I think style of play has a lot to do with whether you load on the front or back foot.
    Guys that are serve and volley want to get inside the court and forward as fast as possible. Also big ace guys can take more time away from opponents throwing toss inside the court. So loading on the front foot makes sense.
    But if you’re shorter like me and staying back a lot - landing inside the baseline can disadvantage. A good return lands right on your feet. Especially with the kick second serve. If someone has a crack at my kicker, I don’t want to be standing two feet inside the baseline when it comes back at me. So I load back leg especially on second serves.
    Roddick also seems to load 50-50 on back and front
    Any other thoughts on this? I would appreciate reading

    • @Marek333MM
      @Marek333MM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toss into the court make sense for tall and especially for short players while as you wrote it takes time away from opponent and gives you more power. And as this video is about how to serve better, I wouldn’t bother about the return and my position at the court. But still, 30 cm of difference of position of your feet doesn’t really matter :)

    • @justindifeliciantonio5140
      @justindifeliciantonio5140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Marek333MM one must explain though why Federer often lands only one shoe length into the court (or less)
      While of course loading on both legs
      As shown here
      th-cam.com/video/FBkFgS3e4QY/w-d-xo.html

    • @Marek333MM
      @Marek333MM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justindifeliciantonio5140 Federer every time tosses the ball into the court, that’s why he lands in the court. Some players throw it more into the court - so they land maybe half of the foot further. But still, Federer’s weight is more on the front foot, exactly as Nikola says. The video, you’ve exampled, shows it perfectly. When his feet leave the ground, his corpse is more over front foot.

    • @justindifeliciantonio5140
      @justindifeliciantonio5140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Marek333MM I should have been more clear. fed tosses the ball from behind the baseline, and yes it flies about half a foot in front of the baseline With the flat serve.
      With the kick serve, the ball is about even with the baseline (see video at 50 seconds). To actually do this for kick serve, in my experience, is to feel like you’re throwing it behind the baseline. The ball may not technically, absolutely be behind the baseline on contact. But when I’ve tried to teach people the kick, the phrase “throw it back” usually works. That’s just the feeling for me.
      I think the confusion in this comments thread is from focusing on which leg to be in. That’s not the point. The point is to get up in the air while also turning your hips. Get the torque. Isn’t that the gas pedal on the serve? (Groth had the most torque of anyone serving!) To do that with a pin point stance, you need more weight on the front foot, as far as I can tell (looking at karlovic, nadal, others.) With a platform stance, you must load both legs. And the sensation is very much staying back before the jump. Else how to jump up and turn with weight forward in a platform stance?The weight transfer you’re seeing in slow motion is fed jumping in such a way that he turns the hips.
      Thanks for the feedback. And for correcting some of my perceptual misconceptions (between feeling and what’s actually happening)

  • @chinaski5
    @chinaski5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boy, I was doing this all wrong-tossing before shifting to the back foot!

  • @matthewbenton1630
    @matthewbenton1630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most useful thing about this for me: I know I don't throw the ball forward enough. I keep practicing throwing the ball forward but it's really hard to be consistent. Looks like what your saying is rock onto the front leg and just release the ball, and that forward movement carries the ball forward, rather than me having to do an accurate throw forward?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Going forward does not guarantee the toss to go forward (it can help). You still need good toss fundamentals 👉 th-cam.com/video/Ui2-wDmNGFY/w-d-xo.html

  • @mattiastennis
    @mattiastennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very important topic and one that is a struggle to say the least. I will contact you about this
    What I will say for now is that nearly every coach I have had(excluding one) has always said I need to load and jump off BOTH feet which you seem to agree with at 7:20. I agree that the front foot will be where the weight more lies
    however how can one more synchronise the 2 feet so that one is 'jumping off both'? Because any of the great servers and current big servers utilise both feet and I think Why not get double the power from jumping off both feet?
    Not to mention the stability benefits as you stated which I have always had troubles with. Would this be a good reason to more go with the Platform stance over the Pinpoint? Or which Pinpoint variety would help more for those who struggle
    with synchronisation of feet?
    Talking about Synchronisation what then about Roddick's motion? Because I think that is what everyone wants to aim for when it comes to both feet leaving at the same time
    Also I think a lot of this problem leads from the toss. If the toss is in and placed well then the body will follow

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no jumping on the serve. Full explanation: link in pinned comment.

  • @sooperman12
    @sooperman12 ปีที่แล้ว

    In order to get the proper shoulder over shoulder, hip over hip that gives you that forward lean is due to loading the back leg. Can't do it? Relax your hips. Absolutely necessary if you want to see more power from your serve as well.

  • @ssportslivetvstreaming
    @ssportslivetvstreaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me the hardest part on tennis is the serve and the leg motion, toss.

  • @TheDrakulie
    @TheDrakulie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHY do i foot fault when i do this ?

  • @karlopeternel7685
    @karlopeternel7685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever had some knee injuries, for sure you the most probably had, at least some small meniscus. Could you make a small video how you coped with it?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  ปีที่แล้ว

      I talk about it here th-cam.com/video/lQ6DhUAWxb4/w-d-xo.html

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      @candidaprout2401 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @karlopeternel7685 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @honkeyness9427
    @honkeyness9427 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot figure out how or why the back leg kicks back. Feels unnatural to me. My serve is like Boris Becker - tried to change it, impossible

  • @thebladypundehreviewsfunny2790
    @thebladypundehreviewsfunny2790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    put in some videos of examples of professional serves to we can understand better the points you are making which are great btw

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have some here 👉 th-cam.com/video/rSPc480H9uo/w-d-xo.html

  • @shafikmahomad3214
    @shafikmahomad3214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you * 10 ! and I thought I was doing it all wrong by naturally putting way too much weight on my front leg and very little on the back - even though serve is my weapon !
    BTW that lifting of the tip of front foot ?? was a CRUCIAL tip for me to stop my chronic foot faulting (without conscious effort)...

  • @Floodland-bn3ol
    @Floodland-bn3ol 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Rick Macci is more correct on this. Perhaps "the Croatian" style does not use the back leg for power.

  • @ansonhansley4578
    @ansonhansley4578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the back leg differ from pint point and open stance?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/gEG6jOIyOz0/w-d-xo.html

  • @TheJadedFilmMaker
    @TheJadedFilmMaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great! but this is for platform serve

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Info in this video applies to both serves

  • @wegtennis8740
    @wegtennis8740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Any thoughts about why Mark Kovacs, another smart guy, says something entirely different, and has people practice the shot put motion?

    • @SonicDangles
      @SonicDangles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hahaha yes, Kovacs is correct. You can serve a ball doing it this way but if you want the most biomechanically effective serve then this is not the video for you.

    • @Marek333MM
      @Marek333MM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kovacs can not play tennis. He only assumes that his way will be more efficient. And it isn’t. Nick is right, as always :)

  • @mamm171177
    @mamm171177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noche video ..bit the directivo off the front foot..Is ..flat Slice kick

  • @harryherman5371
    @harryherman5371 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don’t load the back leg, you drive it into the ground - only the back leg. All pros do it, or are learning to.

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it legal to run at the court toss the ball and strike it ala volleyball? Could this be a HUGE serve?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure 👉 th-cam.com/video/zKBOZux6d_8/w-d-xo.html

  • @abbonierecrackkuchetv7206
    @abbonierecrackkuchetv7206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was literally a guy in my Club who told me that I should serve of my back Leg and not use the left leg.

  • @Eliath1984
    @Eliath1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just did Shadow Serve swings in my living room.. I'm proud to say my weight stays on my back leg for a very short amount of time. lol

    • @Kiwistoicist
      @Kiwistoicist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just step your back foot forward before taking off

    • @Eliath1984
      @Eliath1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kiwistoicist oh I do. That's what I was saying in my comment.. I rock forward and then launch.

  • @DarkoIlic
    @DarkoIlic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meni nije jasno Kako postici da desna strana bude visa id leve bez upotrebe desne noge kao inicijwtora ovog polozaja

  • @ilhanrefioglu6616
    @ilhanrefioglu6616 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can call it role of the back...it is a three dimensional phenomena. Bend occurs along the base line x axis, tilt happens vertical towards the sky z axis and lean happens into the court y axis while keeping the bend... help! Only you can do this...

  • @tomhicks3549
    @tomhicks3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m trying to stir up some debate so this can be settled. This might be very important. Start a correspondence with Kevin Garlington and see how this could be proven scientifically. Probably with existing golf analysts equipment

  • @euroclyde
    @euroclyde 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should contact Tiafoe.

  • @vanjavukovic
    @vanjavukovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have great respect about Nikolas tennis and teaching skills, but I would say that this video doesn't apply to players with "parallel toss arm", which Nikola perfectly explains in his video "Three Ways to Toss On The Serve".

    • @Marek333MM
      @Marek333MM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It applies for every toss. Whatever your toss is, you should throw it into the court

    • @vanjavukovic
      @vanjavukovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First, I wanna apologize for commenting without trying the instruction. Second, I wanna thank you very much Nikola for this video. I was doing same error as the player you mentioned. This tip improved effortlessness and consistency of my serve tremendously. The flow of the whole serve motion is smoother now. Tossing the ball is easier, striking arm lags nicely, which improved racquet drop, I guess.
      So, big thank you once more and keep the good work!

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true Marek, also the confusion regarding the toss and the back leg stems from Federer who doesn’t toss far in front. Unfortunately, he is used as the benchmark for serve technique. His serve is quite unorthodox and difficult to copy. When I analyzed the top 20 ace leaders of all time I found that all of them toss the ball well inside on all serves except him.

    • @Marek333MM
      @Marek333MM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IntuitiveTennis Hi Nikola, Federer totally "damaged" amateur players :), because everyone wants to copy him and everyone is doomed to failure :). You are absolutely right (as always:) in your videos, explaining why we shouldn't copy Federer. Many Thanks again for your work, because you are the ONLY ONE, who really gives on point, unique advices in every topic and it helped me a lot with my game.