Why backup? Can’t he be competition or a rotational option? This backup talk feels so small club mentality, I don’t want a starter and a backup, I want a quality team, not a quality starting XI. He’ll be competition for Porro and Udogie, I’d prefer to get in a LCB/LB hybrid too to give VDV competition and cover
@@merschavonia4745to be fair i think "back up" is more out of respect for Porro. He has already earnt his spot in the team where Spence is earning his place in the squad. Once the season starts it will become rotation/competition. For me Spence actully looks a little smoother carrying the ball, but it's against weaker opponents and Porro has passing range and shooting we haven't seen from Spence yet. We're at lesst 100% safe to shift Royale and not even worry about buying a replacement now though. Massive bonus 👌
@@merschavonia4745 Agree. In my opinion Porro isn’t a good or big enough defender to play in a back 4. He’d be better off as an attacking option, with a taller right back behind him. Grey and Spence can both do this. It’s no surprise we were so terrible at defending set pieces last year when Porro is essentially a midget and his mate Romero doesn’t seem capable of marking
@@jacklane3679 I both agree and disagree with you, I don’t think anyone should have a divine right to start. Porro was a liability defensively on some games last season and when he didn’t contribute anything going forward, he was basically a passenger that just lost the ball. Despite sounding harsh, I like him a lot as a player and Spence can’t make the passes he’s able of or strike the ball the way he does but he’s more physical, faster and a better carrier, a bit like a right sided Udogie. I think there are games where Porro will be more suited and games where Spence will be more natural to play. That’s why we shouldn’t talk about starters and backups imo, we should be able to adapt our starting lineup depending on our opposition. There are games where Porro will be more suited and there’ll be games where Spence is a better fit. Regardless, Porro needs to feel genuine competition
@@pauldurdin6163 Porro is a great player but I think he’s a bit overrated within our fanbase, we make him out to be one of the best RBs in the world and he’s good but he still gets bullied physically, lacks geographical awareness and is almost useless in the air. That’s why he didn’t make the Spain national team. He’s good on the ball and Spence definitely can’t shoot/cross the ball like him but I think both should stay and I think both have their strengths/weaknesses. Some games might be more suited to Porro and others more to Spence.
What we learned from the game; Archie is the real deal. Kulu should stay in the middle. We need more Moore Son’s looking younger than his age Kane’s looking older than his age Bergval looks good and is not scared of getting the ball Royal is a great character but that doesn’t make up for his poor play. Skipp as CB over Royal ? Spence playing his way into being picked more Jamie is the Don The Youth team looks like the 1st team Sarr seemed to be playing for the wrong team in that game, he’s done that a few times We need a huge upgrade on replacing Hojbjerg so we can sub off Sarr/Bissouma when we need to take control of the center Maddison’s passing proving yet again Southgate got it wrong - no wonder England failed cutting open defences. And Finally the support in Japan is buzzing I’ve witnessed more atmosphere and singing with the crowd in this stadium than in many, many, many regular Premier league fixtures!
Spence had a very good loan at Genoa. Turned up mid season without speaking the language, played both left back and right back. Couldn’t have done any more. Understand he had attitude problems in his first spell with the club, let’s hope he has knuckled down now. He is SOOOO much better than the dreadful Emerson
Archie tonight was the player that made me think wow you’re going to be something special. His composure and passing range up there with high level seasoned players and he’s 18. Wow!
Our challenge now is that these youngsters are readier than we thought for 1st team squad. Which to keep, which to loan out? Does it affect our recruitment? (e.g. Gray and Bergvall means we dont need that attaxcking midfielder. Or Devine, Donly etc). Mikey Moore as the winger we need. I think we should spend all the money on the very best 25 goal striker out there and not a value for money Jonathan david.
Sarr skipp and Emerson didn’t look good. But the young guns all looked really really good. Gray was fantastic in defense and midfield. Bergvall Moore Devine donley all of them really really good
@@douglascunningham7263 no they did not. Skipp was extremely weak in that challenge when Kobe scored their second goal. And Emerson looks very uncomfortable every single time he gets the ball. Clearly not a centerback and isn’t a good enough right back for our system.
SARR had a mare , Skipp though actually played well bearing in mind it was as a centre back for a while. Gray was fantastic first half every time he did those raking passes forward it led to something including the equaliser . Yes he gave ball away for their second goal but it was his very last touch as he was about to come off having done his exhausting 60 mins in that heat we have to remember so I'll let him off rhat , but blimey what a player and in the wrong position. Bergvall looks good too
I am sorry but Gray wasn't close to Donley today. Extremely underrated it seems, I just don't get why all overlook him. This is no Gray-bashing, he was good even with that ball-loss leading to 2-2.
Moore did well so did the rest of the youngsters, Manor Solomon showed some good moves aswell (hopefully he only get better). Sarr was very disappointing bergval took control and seem to manage the midfield.
Unpopular opinion but Gray doesn't look super comfortable taking the ball on the turn. Bit like hojberg might be better at receiving the ball facing forwards in the CM position rather than at DM
@@gamra idiot, Man City lost to Celtic and they will be fine. Preseason is for fitness and bedding in players and we are winning games. Don’t worry about it
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Spence is def the answer for backup Rb. Perfect for that inverted role. Him and Moore together like lethal
Why backup? Can’t he be competition or a rotational option? This backup talk feels so small club mentality, I don’t want a starter and a backup, I want a quality team, not a quality starting XI. He’ll be competition for Porro and Udogie, I’d prefer to get in a LCB/LB hybrid too to give VDV competition and cover
@@merschavonia4745to be fair i think "back up" is more out of respect for Porro. He has already earnt his spot in the team where Spence is earning his place in the squad. Once the season starts it will become rotation/competition.
For me Spence actully looks a little smoother carrying the ball, but it's against weaker opponents and Porro has passing range and shooting we haven't seen from Spence yet.
We're at lesst 100% safe to shift Royale and not even worry about buying a replacement now though. Massive bonus 👌
@@merschavonia4745
Agree. In my opinion Porro isn’t a good or big enough defender to play in a back 4. He’d be better off as an attacking option, with a taller right back behind him. Grey and Spence can both do this.
It’s no surprise we were so terrible at defending set pieces last year when Porro is essentially a midget and his mate Romero doesn’t seem capable of marking
@@jacklane3679 I both agree and disagree with you, I don’t think anyone should have a divine right to start. Porro was a liability defensively on some games last season and when he didn’t contribute anything going forward, he was basically a passenger that just lost the ball. Despite sounding harsh, I like him a lot as a player and Spence can’t make the passes he’s able of or strike the ball the way he does but he’s more physical, faster and a better carrier, a bit like a right sided Udogie. I think there are games where Porro will be more suited and games where Spence will be more natural to play. That’s why we shouldn’t talk about starters and backups imo, we should be able to adapt our starting lineup depending on our opposition. There are games where Porro will be more suited and there’ll be games where Spence is a better fit. Regardless, Porro needs to feel genuine competition
@@pauldurdin6163 Porro is a great player but I think he’s a bit overrated within our fanbase, we make him out to be one of the best RBs in the world and he’s good but he still gets bullied physically, lacks geographical awareness and is almost useless in the air. That’s why he didn’t make the Spain national team. He’s good on the ball and Spence definitely can’t shoot/cross the ball like him but I think both should stay and I think both have their strengths/weaknesses. Some games might be more suited to Porro and others more to Spence.
Donley has very very good left foot. Solid boy as well. English manu petit
What we learned from the game;
Archie is the real deal.
Kulu should stay in the middle.
We need more Moore
Son’s looking younger than his age Kane’s looking older than his age
Bergval looks good and is not scared of getting the ball
Royal is a great character but that doesn’t make up for his poor play.
Skipp as CB over Royal ?
Spence playing his way into being picked more
Jamie is the Don
The Youth team looks like the 1st team
Sarr seemed to be playing for the wrong team in that game, he’s done that a few times
We need a huge upgrade on replacing Hojbjerg so we can sub off Sarr/Bissouma when we need to take control of the center
Maddison’s passing proving yet again Southgate got it wrong - no wonder England failed cutting open defences.
And Finally the support in Japan is buzzing I’ve witnessed more atmosphere and singing with the crowd in this stadium than in many, many, many regular Premier league fixtures!
Donley, Bergvall, Devine, and Gray were all on fire today. Thought Moore and Lankshear looked bright as well. Future looks bright!!
Spence had a very good loan at Genoa. Turned up mid season without speaking the language, played both left back and right back. Couldn’t have done any more.
Understand he had attitude problems in his first spell with the club, let’s hope he has knuckled down now. He is SOOOO much better than the dreadful Emerson
Archie tonight was the player that made me think wow you’re going to be something special. His composure and passing range up there with high level seasoned players and he’s 18. Wow!
Will be an upgraded version of Declan rice. England’s starting 6 in 3 years
How did that nobody from Palace go to the World Cup, while Archie didn’t? Absolute joke from Southgate. He didn’t play a single second! 😂
@@pauldurdin6163 Maddison should have been there over that bum from palace
Our challenge now is that these youngsters are readier than we thought for 1st team squad. Which to keep, which to loan out? Does it affect our recruitment? (e.g. Gray and Bergvall means we dont need that attaxcking midfielder. Or Devine, Donly etc). Mikey Moore as the winger we need. I think we should spend all the money on the very best 25 goal striker out there and not a value for money Jonathan david.
We need a striker and to ditch Richarlison and Emerson, both cancers on this team, lacking basic competence
Sarr skipp and Emerson didn’t look good. But the young guns all looked really really good. Gray was fantastic in defense and midfield. Bergvall Moore Devine donley all of them really really good
Skipp did well and Emerson played well what were you watching smh.
@@douglascunningham7263 no they did not. Skipp was extremely weak in that challenge when Kobe scored their second goal. And Emerson looks very uncomfortable every single time he gets the ball. Clearly not a centerback and isn’t a good enough right back for our system.
It’s already known that skipp and royal are not good enough. Both need to be sold
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SARR had a mare , Skipp though actually played well bearing in mind it was as a centre back for a while. Gray was fantastic first half every time he did those raking passes forward it led to something including the equaliser . Yes he gave ball away for their second goal but it was his very last touch as he was about to come off having done his exhausting 60 mins in that heat we have to remember so I'll let him off rhat , but blimey what a player and in the wrong position. Bergvall looks good too
"On transition," we know this all too well. It's a common theme.
I am sorry but Gray wasn't close to Donley today. Extremely underrated it seems, I just don't get why all overlook him. This is no Gray-bashing, he was good even with that ball-loss leading to 2-2.
Everyone needs to clam down the season hasn't started yet thats when the boys become men
What's happening with Ashley Phillips? Nobody is mentioning his name.
Bergvall for me should be first name on the team sheet
Moore did well so did the rest of the youngsters, Manor Solomon showed some good moves aswell (hopefully he only get better).
Sarr was very disappointing bergval took control and seem to manage the midfield.
This lad look immense
Donley had a better game
Unpopular opinion but Gray doesn't look super comfortable taking the ball on the turn. Bit like hojberg might be better at receiving the ball facing forwards in the CM position rather than at DM
He makes one mistake turning for the goal now he can't turn. Typical Spurs fan always panicking with one mistake. RELAX!!!!!!!!
Need to look after these young players and not over play them while their developing
Skipp looked gash
Sorry I did not listen you guys. Checked the girls behind you.
In for a rough season jeezez
It’s pre season you weirdo
@@XxDARFxX amateur
@@gamrano senior cbs and more signings coming, chill your tits
@@gamra idiot, Man City lost to Celtic and they will be fine. Preseason is for fitness and bedding in players and we are winning games. Don’t worry about it
I don't think Archie Gray was our best player like these guys said