Balancing CPU & GPU clocks is crucial for optimal device performance and may help reduce stuttering or sudden frame drops. While going beyond a 30W power limit may not always provide significant performance gains, it allows for better power distribution, which can enhance stability and responsiveness in demanding games. New guide to set up to 50W TDP: th-cam.com/video/oP_LjZm65vc/w-d-xo.html Guide to adjusting GPU CLOCK for ALLY & LEGION GO: th-cam.com/video/T33VTYpnASo/w-d-xo.html If you choose to follow increasing the TDP, Please proceed with caution and make sure you have adequate airflow and cooling and if you have any question dont hesitate to write it here or join TECHOSAUR Discord community: discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b Download links: Smokeless tool: github.com/DavidS95/Smokeless_UMAF Ryzen Universal x86 Tuning Utility: amdaputuningutility.com/ ROG ALLY Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLg8ANjUNzqfPWpS6QgZTK62-QXOhr0XhF.html LEGION GO Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLg8ANjUNzqfN0uUCjfOQmFXCNulJuFIRr.html If you enjoy my content, PLease give it 👍& Subscribe. become a member: th-cam.com/channels/-jauq-kZ20FrlnCMkx2gSQ.htmljoin Pateron: www.patreon.com/TECHOSAUR
Fun fact, for the legion go, the APU power is automatically thermally throttled based on maximum fan speed . If you set the maximum fan speed to 4500 in the fan curve for example (which can be done in .config files) the legion go gpu will begin to throttle at 77 Celsius. HOWEVER, if the maximum fan speed is set to the max, this throttling only happens near 100 C. -edit I want to reiterate that this behavior is baked into the motherboard and cannot be disabled regardless of any bios or software settings.
Didn't know this!! Thanks for sharing When I make those tweaks, I usually max out the fan to ensure it's being cooled well. I just got the Legion go 3d printed modded cover ver2. I would be interested to see how it lowers SSD temps
Well i don't know why, but it shuts off after a couple of minutes in gaming. Ive only set 45W TDP and CPU core boost off. It was hopping around 80-85°C and ive set max temperature to 100°C. But it just shuts itself off randomly.
Legion Go? on mine it shuts down at 50W, but someone else reported that theirs shuts down at 45W. on my device, it doesn't shut down at 45W even after an hour. Perhaps you could try testing at 40W. It appears there may be different power phase models, and some might not be able to sustain higher power for long, but It seems to be related to lack of power rather than heat.
@@TECHOSAUR I thought the same thing. It's not getting over 89°C so heat couldn't be the problem here. Testet it with 42W and it was stable. Thank you anyway man 😃
@@TECHOSAUR Yes general responsiveness and avg FPS got boosted by about 10-15%. Iam using also an 100W wallbrick to counter the higher energy consumtion.
thanks for your video if I play helldiver at 25w，gpu at 1700 mhz should I turn the CPU boost off or on to avoid 1% low fps as less as possible😂 and 1700mhz is good Enoug h or it should be higher or default. Many thanks❤
Yes, exactly. Helldivers 2 does not benefit from CPU boost, as you saw in the benchmark with boost on/off, it’s the same. Therefore, you can turn it off while maximizing GPU clock. At 25W, you can keep increasing GPU clock to the point where you start seeing CPU clock going down below 3.3GHz, like it will get to ~1000GHz. You can push it higher than 1700MHz. At the moment, I don’t know the sweet spot for GPU at 25W with CPU boost off. I’ll try it and let you know here.
@@TECHOSAUR thanks I tested 1550-1800， none of them could reach 3.3ghz 1550 could sometime 3.31 around，but for higher it would be 3000-3150， so the answer should be 1550mhz？ many thanks😂
@yutongduan1934 Yup! Don't underestimate the importance of a stable CPU clock. You saw in my benchmarks when I put it at 30W and 2500 MHz for GPU how my performance got so much worse.
It's never good to go beyond 2600 MHz even at 45 W. Perhaps at 54 W, it may be possible, but we start to enter a zone that causes a much higher temperature. 45 W seems like a reasonable choice if you maximize fans and opt for a modded cover that allows superior airflow with the heatsink. This is because even at 2650 MHz, the GPU starts to act erratically and consume a lot of power, and the CPU will be capped at a very low clock speed. If you have CPU boost disabled, go for 2600 MHz at most. If you have CPU boost enabled, go for a 2500 MHz GPU. That's at a 45 W TDP. It's actually a good idea to keep the GPU minimum the same or at least lower by a similar amount to the maximum to keep the frequency consistent. This helps in situations when sudden GPU clock dips cause abnormal performance like stuttering or, worse, low FPS. If you want to keep 30 W, if you have CPU boost off, it's possible to max it to 2400 MHz. With the minimum set to a value fairly similar to the maximum to avoid clock fluctuations and performance-related losses.
@@TECHOSAUR I've been playing around with the tool and these seemed to be the best settings for me at 30W. Setting the Min and Max GPU to the same values (2500Mhz) actually caused a big performance drop. Setting a small range 2400 - 2600MHz made a big difference 31W Min 2400 MHz GPU Max 2600 MHz GPU Min CPU 3300Mhz Edit Fallout 4 is a good example it likes 2350Mhz as its min compared to 2400Mhz but Palworld prefers 2400Mhz as min
In my opinion, the increase in tdp is not proportional to the number of fps that is chosen, and the heat it generates is too much, it is not worth more than 30W
You could disable CPU boost and get the GPU clock to 2500MHz. It would consume around 35W. CPU 3.3GHz base clock is good enough in 99% of the time. This gives some room for the GPU to have a higher frequency. You can give it a try
@@TECHOSAUR I have the turbo boost disabled with g helper and low consumption efficiency and the armory crate disabled and everything from Asus, this also generates more fps
@@TECHOSAUR You can't get more out of Asus, I'm looking forward to Nvidia releasing its PC console, I think that a low-efficiency CPU with Ecores cores and dedicated low-efficiency graphics, comparable to an RTX 3050 laptop in performance, could be done underclock, I know it will be expensive but it will be my next purchase
@@raul77007 I was looking to get the MSI claw given that that it has a totally different architecture and i have a discrete ARC GPU its decent, but after looking at really overpriced for such an underwhelming performance i avoided it, also it has very low popularity comparing to the ally and legion go, 😅MSI really need to make it appealing by lowering the price, you can get the ally for less 300$ here and its more optimized, i dont know if NVIDIA will ever get into this sector as they're busy with their AI stuff
@@TECHOSAUR MSI Craw is a stillborn console, it is not worth buying even for little money, Nvidia announced that it was working on a high-cost handheld PC.
@@seppeseppe-jq7nr Z1 EXTREME GPU clock is 2700Mhz, we are still not above its specified clock this tweak is just to set a fixed GPU clock to avoid it from dropping suddenly and when u turn off CPU boost you can easily allocate that saved power for GPU, you don't need to set 45W, you can just tinker with it, maybe gain are quite marginal but maybe its worth for anyone to see or give it a try if they're interested
Hello again, all the messages that I responded to you are deleted by the damn application, I will not give you links, but if you look at the latest etaprime videos on their channel they talk about the Nvidia handheld PC
In your case, I believe having CPU boost enabled is better since the GPU is powered independently, and external GPUs would be bottlenecked by a mobile based CPU, so it's best to push the CPU clock to maximum. I don't have an eGPU. Which one are you looking to get for yours? I may try to get it and see how to set it up.
the base clock is 3.3 GHz usually. In-game, when you turn on CPU boost, it hardly goes over 4.1 GHz, depending on the workload. How do u limit cou boosting clock? I found only min clock but not max
@@TECHOSAURI use chiprays autotdp to change it but if you have all the options un hidden in the windows power plan options you can just set it there. Mine usually doesn’t go past 4.7 but it definitely goes above 4.1
Balancing CPU & GPU clocks is crucial for optimal device performance and may help reduce stuttering or sudden frame drops.
While going beyond a 30W power limit may not always provide significant performance gains, it allows for better power distribution, which can enhance stability and responsiveness in demanding games.
New guide to set up to 50W TDP: th-cam.com/video/oP_LjZm65vc/w-d-xo.html
Guide to adjusting GPU CLOCK for ALLY & LEGION GO: th-cam.com/video/T33VTYpnASo/w-d-xo.html
If you choose to follow increasing the TDP, Please proceed with caution and make sure you have adequate airflow and cooling
and if you have any question dont hesitate to write it here or join TECHOSAUR Discord community: discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b
Download links:
Smokeless tool: github.com/DavidS95/Smokeless_UMAF
Ryzen Universal x86 Tuning Utility: amdaputuningutility.com/
ROG ALLY Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLg8ANjUNzqfPWpS6QgZTK62-QXOhr0XhF.html
LEGION GO Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLg8ANjUNzqfN0uUCjfOQmFXCNulJuFIRr.html
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Fun fact, for the legion go, the APU power is automatically thermally throttled based on maximum fan speed . If you set the maximum fan speed to 4500 in the fan curve for example (which can be done in .config files) the legion go gpu will begin to throttle at 77 Celsius. HOWEVER, if the maximum fan speed is set to the max, this throttling only happens near 100 C. -edit I want to reiterate that this behavior is baked into the motherboard and cannot be disabled regardless of any bios or software settings.
Didn't know this!! Thanks for sharing
When I make those tweaks, I usually max out the fan to ensure it's being cooled well.
I just got the Legion go 3d printed modded cover ver2. I would be interested to see how it lowers SSD temps
Well i don't know why, but it shuts off after a couple of minutes in gaming. Ive only set 45W TDP and CPU core boost off. It was hopping around 80-85°C and ive set max temperature to 100°C. But it just shuts itself off randomly.
Legion Go? on mine it shuts down at 50W, but someone else reported that theirs shuts down at 45W. on my device, it doesn't shut down at 45W even after an hour. Perhaps you could try testing at 40W. It appears there may be different power phase models, and some might not be able to sustain higher power for long, but It seems to be related to lack of power rather than heat.
@@TECHOSAUR I thought the same thing. It's not getting over 89°C so heat couldn't be the problem here. Testet it with 42W and it was stable. Thank you anyway man 😃
@@dark_cobalt Yw, did you notice an improvement overall ?
@@TECHOSAUR Yes general responsiveness and avg FPS got boosted by about 10-15%.
Iam using also an 100W wallbrick to counter the higher energy consumtion.
is this also with the memory timing tweaks?
No, every tweak video is done using default BIOS settings unless I mention changes.
thanks for your video if I play helldiver at 25w，gpu at 1700 mhz should I turn the CPU boost off or on to avoid 1% low fps as less as possible😂
and 1700mhz is good Enoug h or it should be higher or default. Many thanks❤
Yes, exactly. Helldivers 2 does not benefit from CPU boost, as you saw in the benchmark with boost on/off, it’s the same. Therefore, you can turn it off while maximizing GPU clock. At 25W, you can keep increasing GPU clock to the point where you start seeing CPU clock going down below 3.3GHz, like it will get to ~1000GHz.
You can push it higher than 1700MHz. At the moment, I don’t know the sweet spot for GPU at 25W with CPU boost off.
I’ll try it and let you know here.
@@TECHOSAUR thanks a lot，I start to understand the theory of doing this😁
@yutongduan1934 It's not that hard. The important part is having a monitoring overlay as you change it.
@@TECHOSAUR thanks I tested 1550-1800， none of them could reach 3.3ghz 1550 could sometime 3.31 around，but for higher it would be 3000-3150， so the answer should be 1550mhz？ many thanks😂
@yutongduan1934 Yup!
Don't underestimate the importance of a stable CPU clock. You saw in my benchmarks when I put it at 30W and 2500 MHz for GPU how my performance got so much worse.
Staying at default 30W would you recommend and min and max of 3300MHz for the gpu?
It's never good to go beyond 2600 MHz even at 45 W. Perhaps at 54 W, it may be possible, but we start to enter a zone that causes a much higher temperature. 45 W seems like a reasonable choice if you maximize fans and opt for a modded cover that allows superior airflow with the heatsink. This is because even at 2650 MHz, the GPU starts to act erratically and consume a lot of power, and the CPU will be capped at a very low clock speed.
If you have CPU boost disabled, go for 2600 MHz at most.
If you have CPU boost enabled, go for a 2500 MHz GPU.
That's at a 45 W TDP.
It's actually a good idea to keep the GPU minimum the same or at least lower by a similar amount to the maximum to keep the frequency consistent. This helps in situations when sudden GPU clock dips cause abnormal performance like stuttering or, worse, low FPS.
If you want to keep 30 W, if you have CPU boost off, it's possible to max it to 2400 MHz.
With the minimum set to a value fairly similar to the maximum to avoid clock fluctuations and performance-related losses.
@@TECHOSAUR I've been playing around with the tool and these seemed to be the best settings for me at 30W. Setting the Min and Max GPU to the same values (2500Mhz) actually caused a big performance drop. Setting a small range 2400 - 2600MHz made a big difference
31W
Min 2400 MHz GPU
Max 2600 MHz GPU
Min CPU 3300Mhz
Edit Fallout 4 is a good example it likes 2350Mhz as its min compared to 2400Mhz but Palworld prefers 2400Mhz as min
In my opinion, the increase in tdp is not proportional to the number of fps that is chosen, and the heat it generates is too much, it is not worth more than 30W
You could disable CPU boost and get the GPU clock to 2500MHz. It would consume around 35W.
CPU 3.3GHz base clock is good enough in 99% of the time.
This gives some room for the GPU to have a higher frequency. You can give it a try
@@TECHOSAUR I have the turbo boost disabled with g helper and low consumption efficiency and the armory crate disabled and everything from Asus, this also generates more fps
@@TECHOSAUR You can't get more out of Asus, I'm looking forward to Nvidia releasing its PC console, I think that a low-efficiency CPU with Ecores cores and dedicated low-efficiency graphics, comparable to an RTX 3050 laptop in performance, could be done underclock, I know it will be expensive but it will be my next purchase
@@raul77007 I was looking to get the MSI claw given that that it has a totally different architecture and i have a discrete ARC GPU its decent, but after looking at really overpriced for such an underwhelming performance i avoided it, also it has very low popularity comparing to the ally and legion go, 😅MSI really need to make it appealing by lowering the price, you can get the ally for less 300$ here and its more optimized, i dont know if NVIDIA will ever get into this sector as they're busy with their AI stuff
@@TECHOSAUR MSI Craw is a stillborn console, it is not worth buying even for little money, Nvidia announced that it was working on a high-cost handheld PC.
lol .. 2 monate ist das ding kapput
welche sache?
nix kaputt , beste der gerät brother , overclock is was für männer 😂😂 geh spielen im buddelkasten
@@seppeseppe-jq7nr Z1 EXTREME GPU clock is 2700Mhz, we are still not above its specified clock
this tweak is just to set a fixed GPU clock to avoid it from dropping suddenly and when u turn off CPU boost you can easily allocate that saved power for GPU, you don't need to set 45W, you can just tinker with it, maybe gain are quite marginal but maybe its worth for anyone to see or give it a try if they're interested
Hello again, all the messages that I responded to you are deleted by the damn application, I will not give you links, but if you look at the latest etaprime videos on their channel they talk about the Nvidia handheld PC
Yes, I saw it. It's like a hypothesis, like predictions, but at the moment, Nvidia hasn't confirmed anything, and yes, it will be expensive.
Can this help with egpu experience in anyway? Thats all i have left to buy for my legion go really is the egpu.
In your case, I believe having CPU boost enabled is better since the GPU is powered independently, and external GPUs would be bottlenecked by a mobile based CPU, so it's best to push the CPU clock to maximum. I don't have an eGPU. Which one are you looking to get for yours? I may try to get it and see how to set it up.
You can limit the cpu boost too works great when you leave boost on but have max cpu frequency at somewhere between 4400 to 4700mhz
the base clock is 3.3 GHz usually. In-game, when you turn on CPU boost, it hardly goes over 4.1 GHz, depending on the workload.
How do u limit cou boosting clock?
I found only min clock but not max
@@TECHOSAURI use chiprays autotdp to change it but if you have all the options un hidden in the windows power plan options you can just set it there. Mine usually doesn’t go past 4.7 but it definitely goes above 4.1
@@TECHOSAURcyphrays bat file