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You may want to consider renaming the video either ‘Why Does Libya Remain Divided?’ or ‘Why Libya Remains Divided’; the current title ‘Why Libya Remains Divided?’ isn’t grammatically correct. While I normally don’t fuss about such things (and I suspect English isn’t your first language, goodness knows I’m far worse in my second language), the title may cause native English speakers like myself to subconsciously skip over the video because they may associate incorrect grammar with poor analysis or content churns! I know _I_ was initially hesitant to check out your channel (TH-cam recommended me your Russian economy video) for fear that you were another RealLifeLore geopolitics-adjacent-tube wannabe, there’s a lot of channels in this space and I think the little touches do help! btw, I have been impressed with your animations and maps; your explanations are generally quite clear and the visuals do help :)
The death of Gadaffi is one of the most important events of the 21st century. Everything from democratic reforms in sub Saharan Africa, to the North Korean nuclear program. They were all directly impacted by the Arab spring and Gadaffis death.
@@Tmb1112 Gaddafi gave up his Nuclear Program in 2003, but was subsequently overthrown thanks to a western backed intervention. The North Koreans saw this and realized that giving up their Nuclear capabilities would meet the same end, same goes for Iran. I believe it was John Bolton who said in 2017 that the 'Libyan Model' of disarmament would work well for Pyongyang.
@@SogaardReedWriterI've heard this claimed a lot. But I'm not sure how having a nuke would have prevented his death. Is the claim that NATO wouldn't have overthrown him for fear of it falling into other hands? That seems pretty straightforward to counter. Is the claim that he would have used the bomb on his own people?
@@scoobydoobers23 A nuclear weapon is by definition a deterrence, Gaddafi could have nuked France if he was invaded, this is large part why NATO hasn't directly intervened in Ukraine, or risk nuclear exchange with Russia.
@@SogaardReedWriterGaddafi should have kept his armaments and even invested in submarines as well as ships that could stop an intervention. Even a stealth bomber would have prevented the looting and the current African diaspora that is happening right now...
Thank you for discussing my country's situation. The downfall of Gaddafi, particularly after he sought alignment with the West, is a crucial, yet under explored factor influencing the dynamics in the Arab world and why their governments are apprehensive about hurting Russia. Leaders from Sisi to those in Saudi Arabia view the West with more skepticism, considering its inconsistent role as a power guarantor. This is especially evident when juxtaposed with Russia's unwavering support for Syria's Bashar.
The west cannot be relied upon even by more or less democratic leaders in Latam, whom they come to bite every once in a while when things start risking working out. For leaders not aligned with their "values" it's even harder.
Thank you for your perspective. I think Libya was also the moment when America lost faith in “the West”-i.e. that our alignment with the old NATO powers was anything more than a burden or charity case. Obama felt suckered in by Sarkozy and Cameron to “lead from behind” in an intervention against a dictator in their neighborhood, only to discover the French and British militaries couldn’t sustain a limited bombing campaign for more than a few days without massive American resupply. This led directly to his rejecting involvement in Syria or Ukraine. I.e., if Putin wants to lord over these basket cases, fine; America can pivot to the far more lucrative and dynamic waters of East Asia. Trump basically took the same line, in a different register. While Iraq was the original sin, I think it’s Europe’s utter weakness and incoherence-not to mention economic stagnation-that’s entrenched instability across the Arab world and beyond. At the end of the Cold War, 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇮🇹 were all serious military powers who could provide an alternative, semi-independent pole of Western leadership. Now, as confirmed by the Biden era, they are helpless vassals who need to toe Washington’s line (e.g. on China) if they expect any further protection.
It's unexpected but entertaining to see a Lybian report in the current situation. It might not get millions of views, but something I will gladly watch and enjoy. Thank you, creator!
@@Metalhead_69 How come ukrainian people began evacuation of Kharkiv and Odessa? I've noticed rumors of Russia's winter offensive happening this winter.
Thanks for making this video! The conflict in Libya is way too complex to comprehend. There are so many factions and governments fighting with each other... It's just too messed up to understand the whole conflict!
Like in america divide the country and it is weaked.He was to much of an independent thinker .England hated him for his support of the IRA,america and israel hated him because he was too much of a wild card in middle eastern politics that could have threated israel
@@JSWahrani ahh.. You might be wondering.. When was that?... Helinic period, Greek and Romans.. Up until 15th-19th Centuries.. 4th largest Country in Africa and Arab World. One the largest oil reserve. Then Civil War broke out in 2011, then Change alot of landscape in Libya.. Khadafi was kicked out, bitten to death by his Countrymen.
Sadly it was quite biased, for example no mention of how easily ''humanist'' and ''democratic'' west justifies supporting warlords, dictators, kings or princes if their interests demand it! Tobruk government was killing and destroying Libyan people elected government for years with foreign support like Sudanese, Egyptian and Russian mercenaries and weapons. And no western country did a damn thing to stop it, some of them were even openly supporting warlord haftar like France even if Russia also has been supporting Tobruk. Then when Turkey finally intervened and saved a democratically elected government, also finally enforcing a ceasefire after years of fighting suddenly it became ''a huge problem'' and some western countries even tried to block Turkish support to UN recognized GNA government like what the actual fuck?! If French and German navy didn't back down Turkish frigates were literally open fire on them especially in the case of German piracy, they had no right to stop a Turkish ship in international waters and search it illegally. Some might claim it is too aggressive but Turkey has every right to target pirates regardless what flag they are flying.. It is just a ridiculous joke that Turkey needs Libya to back it's claims in Mediterranean, it is not at all. Turkey didn't sign UNCLOS and it is not binding between Greece and Turkey while UNCLOS wasn't the only UN sea laws convention rather there were more of them before which were signed by both Turkey and Greece. So those previous conventions are binding and Turkey can literally ignore all Greek islands even in Aegean not just Mediterranean 100% according to international laws while only has to leave 12 nmiles EEZ for the islands. Also there is absolutely NOTHING found yet in the disputed area so claiming it was for ''billions of dollars'' is just nothing but another laughable claim! Turkey can not and will not allow Greece to use tiny islands that you need magnifying glass to see on a map and with only few hundred population to reduce EEZ of 80 million people regardless there are resources or not. It is also exactly same in the entire world, for example British islands next to France have both reduced territorial waters and EEZ, French islands next to Canada have reduced EEZ, Finnish islands next to Sweden have both reduced waters and EEZ, Spanish islands next to Morocco have both reduced waters and EEZ. But only God knows how exactly Greek islands next to Turkey must have full 12 miles territorial waters and full 200 nmiles EEZ, right?! They will need a war and also a victory to achive it for sure. The fighting in Libya didn't stop because GNA forces couldn't defeat haftar forces, again completely false information. It stopped because russkies sent two squadrons into Libya, actual fucking russian air force! It created a dilemma for GNA side as they had no air force to speak off and Turkey could send some F-16s to Libya but Libyan bases were in terrible shape and Libya is too far away for air refueling operations. Those russian squadrons could not target Turkish forces but they could shoot down Turkish drones and freely bomb GNA forces while russkies could also send more of them. It is often overlooked in the west for obvious reasons but Turkish backed GNA killed HUNDREDS of wagner mercenaries in Libya and they were willing to further increase their presence. So instead of escalating the war sides signed a ceasefire agreement under Turkish and russky supervision..
@@horstnietzsche1923 Such as Qatar through Al Jazeera the U.S and the French engineering and conspiring to organize the fall of Gaddafi and redistribution of the control of oil production between French and U.S companies in post war Libya. The supplying , funding (thus practically the creation) of and intelligence sharing to the so called "rebels" and supporting directly with airstrikes on military and government targets. This was all revealed by the leaked "Clinton emails". Why or how people that take interest in geopolics do not know this is beyond me. Wilful ignorance seems like the only option.
very little mention of the French involvement, everything i've heard says the French were supporting the General against the wishes of the U.S. and other allies
Is there any material about how these direct democracy institutions mentioned in Gadaffis Green book actually worked? Were they actually established in Libya and is so, how much power over Libyan governmence they actually had?
Haftar was very close to invading Tripoli, which likely would have ended the war. Turkey showed up at the last minute and effectively caused this war to continue. Anarchy isn't salvation.
@@skipperson4077 So Libya should've just let the whole country get overrun by foreign agents and become another corrupt colony because wAr iS bAD, mmMkaYY?? Your argument doesn't make any sense. By your logic, all countries should never resist any military action happening upon them because "there will be killing". lol
Libya was the richest country in the region , and was about to Make gold their currency and they HAD (stolen by .. ) a huge gold reserve. free healthcare free education (befriended a couple of Libyans abroad) Free Lands when starting a family But "some people" didn't like that because it will destabilize their economy ...and now its all history, that wont be forgotten "weapon of mass destruction in Iraq" type of thing
yeah , it was even bigger than turkey's (seen as one of the best islamic nation) gdp per capita. human development index was also higher. europeans believe they are always right and democracy will fix everything while nearly everywhere they intervened became a shithole
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Libya is divided because the west in their Pollyanna view of the world thought if we installed democracy everything will be just fine. A lot more people have died than if qaddafi remained in power.
It is very ,,funny" when he says that the rebels occupied half of Libya in just a week, and in the next sentence he says that Gaddafi's clan has decided for a confrontation🤨
poor characterization. Only Vietnam was bombed heavily with most of the bombs being used in tactical situations in South Vietnam, the US ally. Despite that Vietnam recovered rather quickly. Afik, Western intervention in Libya was air cover to prevent Quadaffi from using his air force from bombing the Libyan people as per the UN. A large number of countries that took Chinese loans are in arrears, a problem for them and now a problem for China.
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I am Libyan 🇱🇾 I lived my life between the years of Gaddafi’s rule and after Gaddafi. There were claims that Gaddafi was responsible for the attacks, but there was no Blame me for establishing bases and concentrations in Libya, as well as buying oil from smuggling and illegal immigration dealers, as well as drug dealers during the period of Gaddafi’s rule. I was going to ask the law because you harmed state security, but now you are the reason.
I always hear this conspiracy about Gaddafi and the Golden African Dinar. Do you think that It has any credibility? Or is it mosly just Russian popaganda
Ridiculous to imagine the Golden African Dinar would threaten global economics. It's coincidence, Gaddafi had many enemies because of his tyranny at home and support of terrorists abroad, the sum total of his crimes brought him down and people didn't correctly anticipate the consequences of his downfall.
There is a significant ethnic divide between eastern and western libya often unnoticed by outsiders. The east is is made up of arab tribes that migrated from arabia in the 11th century. Even the dialects spoken there is very close to the dialects spoken in western and central saudi arabia. The west is made up by arabized berbers and descendants of turks and janessaries. All are arabic speakers and that makes this devide unnoticed by outsiders.
My take on this is this, I preferably Torbruk to win in this conflict. Simply because before all this Libya for the most part was stable, one of the most successful countries in Africa, and due to western countries just sabotaging the country. (Gaddafi a horrible terrorism user, but then again show me a government that doesn’t do illegal activities) I still disagree with the Authoritarian tendencies from Torbruk, though a lot of countries cultures in some way function off that structure to function. Tripoli government is an instant turn off due to religious preference n mixture within government n that’s a instant turn off for my political philosophy.
@@sidp5381 lmao did you even watch this video? US had nothing to do with it. It was Russia, UAE, and Turkey, funding a proxy conflict, that cause Libya to fall apart. Plus boneheaded power plays from Libyan warlords.
@@sidp5381while I'm sure Washington didn't miss Gaddafi one bit, I'll be very clear - Gaddafi has made an enemy out of everyone. His neighbors, all the major world powers, and also his own people. I'm not denying how Libya under Gaddafi was moderately prosperous. I'm here to make a case that Gaddafi lived as a man who wholly bought into the idea of his own greatness, lived in excess in how he conducted his politics at home and abroad, and that delusion of grandeur is what killed him. Libyans had enough of political repression and sham democracy, and nobody overseas would miss Gaddafi if he were to die. And thus Gaddafi died like a manged mongrel. I'm not saying it was rightful for him to die from a lynching - anything but. He should've had a free and fair tribunal. I'm just describing history as it happened, and how Gaddafi engineered his own grand life and downfall. Gaddafi's foremost priority in life isn't the prosperity of Libyans. It was to fulfill his self image of omnipotence. What investments he made for Libyans, are incomparable to the luxuries he afforded for himself, and the resources he invested in his many global crusades. War against Chad, against the UK, against Israel, and more fundamentally, against established International Rule of Law. Gaddafi wanted to reshape the world to his image, and that hubris killed him.
@@sidp5381Gaddafi himself carries the most blame here. If he wasn't such a greedy dictator and actually put his citizens interest over his personal, he wouldn't be killed by his own people. He also totally fucked up foreign relations by acting irrational and alienating a lot of powerful countries.
سلام Please please understand .. take the truth I’m from libya We are in Libya divided politically . Politically only .. the situation Now 2023 on the land the reflection & war is stopped since 3 years .. now the country stable & Libyan people are brothers now .all my friends from western area I’m from eastern area there’s no problem between the people her seriously. Ask any one in Libya . this is the truth . & the clear evidence was Daniel floods in eastern area all western & south Libyan people came to east & helped us , supported us & cried with us ,they gave us their food their water their medicine their clothes , literally .. so we are peacefully together one heart , all the Libyans together 🇱🇾🕊️🤍 2023 الحمد لله
We Italians support the democratically elected President, backed by the United Nations. France supports the general on the other side, backed by America. There's literally nothing in common.
@@danielefabbro822 I meant wright that. France wants to limit Turkey's claims in the Mediterranean sea and supports Greece's claims for waters, so the general is their guy.
@@Dangur2 we have also saved the vast majority of the refugees that have escaped from the war and again also the migrants. All welcomed in Italy. With water, food, a roof over their heads, a warm bed and the chance to start anew here. While France, UK and America have done nothing, they even closed their borders. They first bombs harmless people than they refuse to help. I feel ashamed by having them as "allies".
@@danielefabbro822your democracy is a scam and is American puppetism😂 your current pm was labeled as threat to democracy because she wasn't chosen by usa😂
lol. Gandaffi was behind some many terrorist act. If you want peace in your country, stop terrorizing other countries and stop blaming all Arab problem to America and Europe.
The intervention was not "NATO", it was Britain (Cameron), France (Sarkozy) and, rather belatedly but with a very enthusiastic Hillary Clinton at the helm (what would later get her the nickname "Killary"), the USA. Italy and Germany very especially opposed the intervention. Italy, which had been cultivating Gaddafi for a long time already, especially under Berlusconi, saw in fact their oil assets transferred to France and Britain as result, Germany was not in the mood either for whatever their own reasons. Broadly speaking it was a neocolonial intervention against Italian interests... but also about Gaddafi's plan to create a gold currency for Africa, which could have caused troubles to USD and FCA franc hegemony.
It's the proof that we Italians are not considered allies by the other members of NATO. Reason why we should leave the alliance. We not only have important interests in Libya, Libya was one of our former colonies and we wanted that Libya could grow economically in order to become a good partner to us. But Europe and America destroyed everything. It was a mortal hit to Libya and a spit on our face for us Italians. And now that there's no more Gheddafi, we have also to welcome and hold all the migrants that are coming from Africa because France and UK don't want them. NATO is not anymore useful to us Italians. I'll vote to leave it.
@@mayer14474 - The US dollar (backed by Saudi oil since 1973) doesn't like competing divisas, as much of US power lays on financial hegemony and manipulation, and that's why the USA is obsessed with controlling oil (to force its purchase in US conditions and especially in USD) and is by extension also very dedicated to delay the green energy transition.
Since I am a Libyan, I give you good news that the situation will improve in a short time and the country will return to the better.. Muammar Gaddafi, the conscience of the world 🟩✌🏻
The situation is much better than before The army, led by Haftar, will launch a lightning operation and take control of the entire Libyan territory@@LIGHTandPEACE
@@Mohammed96MHey Haftar, what do you say? This is a terrorist and he fought all the parties in Benghazi that were not supported by anyone. He secured its people and led it into a war that lasted four years. Many innocent people died there and from the groups that had previously been revolutionaries on 2/17 that were oppressed. He accused them of murder and terrorism charges that were completely false. Evidence, but she always denies the charges, and yet he fought her to control her and the rest of Libya by force. In the past, he was a prisoner in Chad, and then America took him and he defected to Gaddafi. Also, he will not be able to control Libya because he already tried in 2019, but he failed, lost, and left, and he will not be able to control Tripoli because even Its people have bombed it and bombed the innocents, so how do you want them to accept it? No one will forget his crimes against the Libyan people, so how do you want him to be its president?
@@VolmerHamden You are either a terrorist or an agent... We all know that after 2011, people came to Libya and the East, specifically in Benghazi, Derna, and Ajdabiya, and they killed and bombed, and when the Caliph started the war, they slaughtered and carried out suicide bombers, and we all know this.
@@VolmerHamden Khalifa Haftar, the next president of Libya, with American, Russian, Emirati, and even Turkish support. Khalifa Haftar now has many allies in the western region...just remember my words.😉
I have heard rumors on why Gadaffis was overthrown in support by France. France maintains a post-colonial presence that controls half of the central money reserves in the French treasury with the CFA Franc of Sub-Sahara Africa in West and Central Africa countries. French companies get preferential treatment of resource extraction and businesses. France is believed to have wanted Libya's oil and the fear of the decline in Sub-Sahara Africa with Gadaffis Pan-Africanism. Gadaffis may have wanted to use the his oil money to purchase gold and expel the CFA Franc . This could in theory lead could have led to the decline and possible loss of the French presence in Africa.
There is never a single “why.” There are dozens of competing factors that push actions and alliances. The issue you cite would just add weight to one side of the scales.
yes, France was the biggest lobbyist for the downfall of Gaddafi for this exact reason, for all the "liberte egalite fraternite" slogan the french government likes to publicly push, they are still a colonial nation with colonial interest in the western/ central Africa region.
The 'they want the oil' theory is one of the most common heard theories when trying to explain conflicts. But oil isn't that important a resource. There is plenty of oil all around the world. Literally every continent (except Antarctica) has oil, it's not a scarce resource, and oil is readily available on the global market at the daily market price. There is as little reason to wage war over oil as there is to wage war over iron ore. People said the Gulf War, the Iraq War and The Syrian War were all about oil, but nobody ended up taking the oil, or even attempted to take the oil. Whether it's the US, or Russia, or China, or the EU, everybody is quite happy to just buy oil from whoever is willing to sell it.
@@pjacobsen1000 Exactly. Iraq and Afghanistan cost the U.S., which now produces most of its own energy, quite literally 14+ trillion dollars. No amount of favorable oil access is going to make up for that.
@@belisarius9515 The French certainly don’t GAF about Ukraine. They’re giving the bare minimum, constantly calculating what’s just enough to keep from getting criticized internationally. But by comparison, Belgium makes France look like the UK, US & Poland combined when it comes to giving. They’re an utter disgrace.
It’s possible that the crisis in Gaza might help improve the situation in Libya because at least now many of the outside powers are meeting and talking - Turkey, Egypt, Qatar, UAE, etc.
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i love west ignores how libyan plp life under gadaffi they had evrtyhing many plp from other coutry came to libya to work many of my friends where in libya made aot of money there working f. west
Did a US president call Libya Middle East? lol The only argument could be said about eastern Libya, which could qualify to be closer to Egypt and the east than Tunisia and the west, hence even with that definition, Libya as a whole would still not be middle eastern, neither in culture, nor history.
@@ghostdiaries369 Libyan people are mostly left wing and Gaddafi was an extremist right wing so whoever talks about being a left wing and says a bad thing about Gaddafi gets excuted in public to terror the others Libyans never show hate to Gaddafi till the year of 2011 Libyans successfully gathered secretly ,planed to over throw Gaddafi in 2011/2/17 So as a said Gaddafi was a right wing that means left wings gonna usually hate his government And the west (left wing superpowers) found it a god opportunity to over throw Gaddafi since his own people are turning against him .
USA didn’t partially like Muammar Gaddafi, but he sowed the seeds of his destruction over decades. No reason Libya couldn’t have been strong country, but by destroying all other institutions in the country that provide cohesion in society, it hollowed out the country. PS - As usual, western powers were clueless about thinking what comes next.
did you even listen to the video? I fail to see what 'The USA' gains from this anarchy, much easier to control one leader than many armed factions and Quaddafi was already working with the west. Simplistic and probably politicized answer for a very complex situation.
@@thegoodpimpsthey'll never join NATO unless they succeed in kicking Russia out of their territory and make an agreement with them to stop the war. We all know if Ukraine joins NATO it will cause more conflict since all Europeans will have to forcefully put boots on the ground.
In what way does egypt support gaza? Everything I hear is about how egypt has closed their border to the gazans & want nothing to do with the situation.
America and its Western allies are happy with the disastrous situation in Libya. This is what they wanted from the beginning to destroy and dismantle Libya so that it would not be able to issue its own currency in Africa
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Libia probably would be splitted between Egypt and Algeria (and their allies). Their attraction is too powerful for such ruined and sparsely populated country.
@@RenéSaussyIronically Iraq was one of the few countries today that the US pumped money into and kinda saved it from economic turmoil from Baathist mismanagement of the economy
USA out of the ME and energy independent. Only nations USA should fund are western-allied countries that can stand on their own after the USA leaves. Thankfully, for the USA taxpayer, the number of such countries can be counted on one hand.
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You may want to consider renaming the video either ‘Why Does Libya Remain Divided?’ or ‘Why Libya Remains Divided’; the current title ‘Why Libya Remains Divided?’ isn’t grammatically correct.
While I normally don’t fuss about such things (and I suspect English isn’t your first language, goodness knows I’m far worse in my second language), the title may cause native English speakers like myself to subconsciously skip over the video because they may associate incorrect grammar with poor analysis or content churns!
I know _I_ was initially hesitant to check out your channel (TH-cam recommended me your Russian economy video) for fear that you were another RealLifeLore geopolitics-adjacent-tube wannabe, there’s a lot of channels in this space and I think the little touches do help! btw, I have been impressed with your animations and maps; your explanations are generally quite clear and the visuals do help :)
The death of Gadaffi is one of the most important events of the 21st century. Everything from democratic reforms in sub Saharan Africa, to the North Korean nuclear program. They were all directly impacted by the Arab spring and Gadaffis death.
North Korea's first nuke was in 2006... so don't really know how Gadaffi's death impacted that.
@@Tmb1112 Gaddafi gave up his Nuclear Program in 2003, but was subsequently overthrown thanks to a western backed intervention. The North Koreans saw this and realized that giving up their Nuclear capabilities would meet the same end, same goes for Iran. I believe it was John Bolton who said in 2017 that the 'Libyan Model' of disarmament would work well for Pyongyang.
@@SogaardReedWriterI've heard this claimed a lot. But I'm not sure how having a nuke would have prevented his death. Is the claim that NATO wouldn't have overthrown him for fear of it falling into other hands? That seems pretty straightforward to counter. Is the claim that he would have used the bomb on his own people?
@@scoobydoobers23 A nuclear weapon is by definition a deterrence, Gaddafi could have nuked France if he was invaded, this is large part why NATO hasn't directly intervened in Ukraine, or risk nuclear exchange with Russia.
@@SogaardReedWriterGaddafi should have kept his armaments and even invested in submarines as well as ships that could stop an intervention. Even a stealth bomber would have prevented the looting and the current African diaspora that is happening right now...
Thank you for discussing my country's situation. The downfall of Gaddafi, particularly after he sought alignment with the West, is a crucial, yet under explored factor influencing the dynamics in the Arab world and why their governments are apprehensive about hurting Russia. Leaders from Sisi to those in Saudi Arabia view the West with more skepticism, considering its inconsistent role as a power guarantor. This is especially evident when juxtaposed with Russia's unwavering support for Syria's Bashar.
The west cannot be relied upon even by more or less democratic leaders in Latam, whom they come to bite every once in a while when things start risking working out. For leaders not aligned with their "values" it's even harder.
Russia is a joke army nowadays, much different story
@@dpelpal Russia may be a joke but they're at least consistent vs the West whose 180 on Gaddaffi made them seem like total Schizos to the ME.
Bring back Gaddafi.
Thank you for your perspective. I think Libya was also the moment when America lost faith in “the West”-i.e. that our alignment with the old NATO powers was anything more than a burden or charity case. Obama felt suckered in by Sarkozy and Cameron to “lead from behind” in an intervention against a dictator in their neighborhood, only to discover the French and British militaries couldn’t sustain a limited bombing campaign for more than a few days without massive American resupply. This led directly to his rejecting involvement in Syria or Ukraine. I.e., if Putin wants to lord over these basket cases, fine; America can pivot to the far more lucrative and dynamic waters of East Asia.
Trump basically took the same line, in a different register. While Iraq was the original sin, I think it’s Europe’s utter weakness and incoherence-not to mention economic stagnation-that’s entrenched instability across the Arab world and beyond. At the end of the Cold War, 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇩🇪🇮🇹 were all serious military powers who could provide an alternative, semi-independent pole of Western leadership. Now, as confirmed by the Biden era, they are helpless vassals who need to toe Washington’s line (e.g. on China) if they expect any further protection.
“Mad dog of the Middle East” Americans and geography, gotta love it😂
Libya and the Maghreb are parts of the middle east
It's unexpected but entertaining to see a Lybian report in the current situation. It might not get millions of views, but something I will gladly watch and enjoy. Thank you, creator!
Slava Ukraine from a Libyan
Yeah I thought the same thing. I found this channel in the opening days in the Ukraine war and immediately knew by the accent he was from Poland lol.
f... ukraine from a libyan@@dpelpal
@@dpelpal I wish the best for your country and people!
@@Metalhead_69 How come ukrainian people began evacuation of Kharkiv and Odessa? I've noticed rumors of Russia's winter offensive happening this winter.
Thanks for making this video! The conflict in Libya is way too complex to comprehend. There are so many factions and governments fighting with each other... It's just too messed up to understand the whole conflict!
Like in america divide the country and it is weaked.He was to much of an independent thinker .England hated him for his support of the IRA,america and israel hated him because he was too much of a wild card in middle eastern politics that could have threated israel
I think it’s more like extremist jihadest and militias who are backed by usa, turkey and uk fighting the national army over the capital
Thanks for this insight into Libya! A forgotten conflict.
Forgotten? Not by anyone who pays even the slightest attention to geopolitics.
@@The_ZeroLine such a professional lol
@@OktaviusBiedermann I’m super cereal!
Thank you for this video. I didn't really know what was going on in Libya post Gaddafi. Thank you for your work!
This video is western biasness. Just know that there is no Libya after Gaddafi
Twelve years already?!? But I remember the Libyan civil war like it was yesterday
you are geting old my friend like i :).
I hope Turkey and Egypt could find ways to have that agreement road to Peace and make Libya great again.
tama ka jan...
Great again??? 😂 when was the last time there was anything great about Libya? It’s always been a bloody mess
@@JSWahrani ahh.. You might be wondering.. When was that?... Helinic period, Greek and Romans.. Up until 15th-19th Centuries.. 4th largest Country in Africa and Arab World. One the largest oil reserve. Then Civil War broke out in 2011, then Change alot of landscape in Libya.. Khadafi was kicked out, bitten to death by his Countrymen.
@@JSWahraniyou mean when it had universal healthcare, college, housing, and nobody starved under gaddafi?
@@karloyu3484 turkey has no say in libya egypt os its neigbouring country specially whe turkey is ruled by british made cult the muslim brotherhood.
Great summary. Thanks for your commitment to an unbiased and relatively thorough report.
Amazing video. It would however, be extremely useful if sources could be cited within the video itself, or even just listed in the description.
Sadly it was quite biased, for example no mention of how easily ''humanist'' and ''democratic'' west justifies supporting warlords, dictators, kings or princes if their interests demand it! Tobruk government was killing and destroying Libyan people elected government for years with foreign support like Sudanese, Egyptian and Russian mercenaries and weapons. And no western country did a damn thing to stop it, some of them were even openly supporting warlord haftar like France even if Russia also has been supporting Tobruk. Then when Turkey finally intervened and saved a democratically elected government, also finally enforcing a ceasefire after years of fighting suddenly it became ''a huge problem'' and some western countries even tried to block Turkish support to UN recognized GNA government like what the actual fuck?! If French and German navy didn't back down Turkish frigates were literally open fire on them especially in the case of German piracy, they had no right to stop a Turkish ship in international waters and search it illegally. Some might claim it is too aggressive but Turkey has every right to target pirates regardless what flag they are flying..
It is just a ridiculous joke that Turkey needs Libya to back it's claims in Mediterranean, it is not at all. Turkey didn't sign UNCLOS and it is not binding between Greece and Turkey while UNCLOS wasn't the only UN sea laws convention rather there were more of them before which were signed by both Turkey and Greece. So those previous conventions are binding and Turkey can literally ignore all Greek islands even in Aegean not just Mediterranean 100% according to international laws while only has to leave 12 nmiles EEZ for the islands. Also there is absolutely NOTHING found yet in the disputed area so claiming it was for ''billions of dollars'' is just nothing but another laughable claim! Turkey can not and will not allow Greece to use tiny islands that you need magnifying glass to see on a map and with only few hundred population to reduce EEZ of 80 million people regardless there are resources or not. It is also exactly same in the entire world, for example British islands next to France have both reduced territorial waters and EEZ, French islands next to Canada have reduced EEZ, Finnish islands next to Sweden have both reduced waters and EEZ, Spanish islands next to Morocco have both reduced waters and EEZ. But only God knows how exactly Greek islands next to Turkey must have full 12 miles territorial waters and full 200 nmiles EEZ, right?! They will need a war and also a victory to achive it for sure.
The fighting in Libya didn't stop because GNA forces couldn't defeat haftar forces, again completely false information. It stopped because russkies sent two squadrons into Libya, actual fucking russian air force! It created a dilemma for GNA side as they had no air force to speak off and Turkey could send some F-16s to Libya but Libyan bases were in terrible shape and Libya is too far away for air refueling operations. Those russian squadrons could not target Turkish forces but they could shoot down Turkish drones and freely bomb GNA forces while russkies could also send more of them. It is often overlooked in the west for obvious reasons but Turkish backed GNA killed HUNDREDS of wagner mercenaries in Libya and they were willing to further increase their presence. So instead of escalating the war sides signed a ceasefire agreement under Turkish and russky supervision..
The war in Libya is as complex and difficult to comprehend as the war in Yemen. I don't know who will be able to clean up this mess.
I think haftar is the best option for libya better than extremist jihadest and militias at least
Glossing over a lot of well known facts when it comes to "arab spring" in Libya and the fall of Gaddafi.
This is basically a pro-US, pro-Nato channel. You can't expect to come to a vegetarian buffet and find meat.
Look at his Ukraine war coverage. Clear Western bias
Such as what?
@@horstnietzsche1923 th-cam.com/video/LxdXqAkgOVs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ez_xk5r3SHctBPKP
@@horstnietzsche1923 Such as Qatar through Al Jazeera the U.S and the French engineering and conspiring to organize the fall of Gaddafi and redistribution of the control of oil production between French and U.S companies in post war Libya. The supplying , funding (thus practically the creation) of and intelligence sharing to the so called "rebels" and supporting directly with airstrikes on military and government targets. This was all revealed by the leaked "Clinton emails". Why or how people that take interest in geopolics do not know this is beyond me. Wilful ignorance seems like the only option.
I'm loving these geopolitical break downs, great work.
Thank you for your presentation , I watched all of it .
Very good work, Thomasz
Because of all of this. Some Libyans miss Gaddafi even though he was a brutal dictator
Return the monarchy in a constitutional form. Monarchs stop strongmen from taking control and can unite the national identity.
Or become the strongmen themselves...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131well duh of course they are the strongman they are litterally monarch
Italy will tell you otherwise
Informative video. Very murky what is going on in Libya right now.
Another great video
very little mention of the French involvement, everything i've heard says the French were supporting the General against the wishes of the U.S. and other allies
france also is with Khalifa haftar
France , greece , egypt , uae , saudi arabia , jordan and russia support marshal haftar
@@Llo01 im from الزاوية in In the west and I don’t support him in fact I’m one of those who will probably end up fighting him
Is there any material about how these direct democracy institutions mentioned in Gadaffis Green book actually worked? Were they actually established in Libya and is so, how much power over Libyan governmence they actually had?
Turkey coming in clutch and saving Libya from becoming another western colony
Are you form Libya
You mean they helped the western militias to become there puppets
Haftar was very close to invading Tripoli, which likely would have ended the war. Turkey showed up at the last minute and effectively caused this war to continue. Anarchy isn't salvation.
@@skipperson4077 So Libya should've just let the whole country get overrun by foreign agents and become another corrupt colony because wAr iS bAD, mmMkaYY?? Your argument doesn't make any sense. By your logic, all countries should never resist any military action happening upon them because "there will be killing". lol
This was very informative.
Libya was the richest country in the region , and was about to Make gold their currency and they HAD (stolen by .. ) a huge gold reserve.
free healthcare
free education (befriended a couple of Libyans abroad)
Free Lands when starting a family
But "some people" didn't like that because it will destabilize their economy ...and now its all history, that wont be forgotten
"weapon of mass destruction in Iraq" type of thing
yeah , it was even bigger than turkey's (seen as one of the best islamic nation) gdp per capita. human development index was also higher. europeans believe they are always right and democracy will fix everything while nearly everywhere they intervened became a shithole
Perfection in every second, quality of your movies is mind blowing just keep going and THANK YOU,,! Impressive always suprising and perfect I’m reading plenty of geopolitics stuff but again I’m learning from you guys buckets of new knowledge .. and again perfection is not easy but every single episode is way more than that … as an atheist I can only say gooood bless you keep it going 😂
Libya is divided because the west in their Pollyanna view of the world thought if we installed democracy everything will be just fine. A lot more people have died than if qaddafi remained in power.
great channel
No mention of nuclear weapons, and Libya's giving up their arsenal....
It is very ,,funny" when he says that the rebels occupied half of Libya in just a week, and in the next sentence he says that Gaddafi's clan has decided for a confrontation🤨
good video
2:50 wasn’t that attack done by Assad in Syria but Gaddafi claimed it was done by Libya?
It was Iran not Syria
Its sad how things changed to worse when colonel gueddafi was killed
Indigo traveller did a trip in Libya, pretty unsettling place.
it's safe now
@@professionalarab2502 maybe, but he still got an armed police escort for most of his trip.
Developing nations get bombed to stone age by usa
West : liberation
Developing nation get aid from china
West : chinese expansion, debt trap
poor characterization. Only Vietnam was bombed heavily with most of the bombs being used in tactical situations in South Vietnam, the US ally. Despite that Vietnam recovered rather quickly. Afik, Western intervention in Libya was air cover to prevent Quadaffi from using his air force from bombing the Libyan people as per the UN.
A large number of countries that took Chinese loans are in arrears, a problem for them and now a problem for China.
the imf is not any better@@skipperson4077
40 I only give this example. Let us sanctify ourselves. Every prayer has an Amen, everything has an end. One day, one after the other, we shall rest from our works. And looking back, we must be happy for what we did on earth for God. Help the weak. Love one another as God loves us. Let’s bear with one another as God bears with us.
41 Our goal is to move together from darkness to the Light of our time and to stand on the mountain of Matthew 25:6 and sing the song of Kacou Philippe, which is the Message of the midnight Cry.
Thanks to NATO intervention
i miss him so much bros.....
It appears a Turkey-Egypt normalization is mandatory for peace in Libya.
I am Libyan 🇱🇾 I lived my life between the years of Gaddafi’s rule and after Gaddafi. There were claims that Gaddafi was responsible for the attacks, but there was no Blame me for establishing bases and concentrations in Libya, as well as buying oil from smuggling and illegal immigration dealers, as well as drug dealers during the period of Gaddafi’s rule. I was going to ask the law because you harmed state security, but now you are the reason.
honestly seems like america is the bad guy over and over
Under the thumbnail, it said CaspianReport viewers also watch this channel😂😂😂... what on earth is going on😅
PIA ? Sounds like a Barry Seal deal to me !!
arab leaders who wanted him out of the picture btw so USA responded with making the nato and France toke credit at the very end..
What a mess!
هنااك الكثير من المعلومات الخطأ
merrrcan democracy someone needed some merrrcan democracy
Qaddafi should never have given up his nukes.
I always hear this conspiracy about Gaddafi and the Golden African Dinar. Do you think that It has any credibility? Or is it mosly just Russian popaganda
Ridiculous to imagine the Golden African Dinar would threaten global economics. It's coincidence, Gaddafi had many enemies because of his tyranny at home and support of terrorists abroad, the sum total of his crimes brought him down and people didn't correctly anticipate the consequences of his downfall.
Let me guess the answer to your opening question, the religion of peace.
There is a significant ethnic divide between eastern and western libya often unnoticed by outsiders. The east is is made up of arab tribes that migrated from arabia in the 11th century. Even the dialects spoken there is very close to the dialects spoken in western and central saudi arabia. The west is made up by arabized berbers and descendants of turks and janessaries. All are arabic speakers and that makes this devide unnoticed by outsiders.
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That’s true
who supported most & deadly terror ? Gaddafi or US? i would say US!!
My take on this is this, I preferably Torbruk to win in this conflict. Simply because before all this Libya for the most part was stable, one of the most successful countries in Africa, and due to western countries just sabotaging the country. (Gaddafi a horrible terrorism user, but then again show me a government that doesn’t do illegal activities)
I still disagree with the Authoritarian tendencies from Torbruk, though a lot of countries cultures in some way function off that structure to function.
Tripoli government is an instant turn off due to religious preference n mixture within government n that’s a instant turn off for my political philosophy.
As libyan you are right, there’s no “government” in western libyan it’s ruled by militias and jihadist(isis)
Saddam Husein = Muammar Khadafi Pemerintah Otoriter Lagi Difitnah😔😔😔
Did u just say that Gaddafi funded terrorism? Either you don't know what terrorism is or you are paid by terrorists or both.
Cause Americans see it fit
sad
Thanks Sarkozy and Obama. What a mess you created.
first
Legend
Turkey part is not accurate
Thanks Obama
A lot of the problems in Libya stem from Soviet/Russian meddling. Im Libyan and Ive seen it myself.
But the Soviet Union was one of libyas closest Allies. And Russia and Libya had good relations before the rebellion and nato support.
US puppet
Libyans must be enjoying American "Freedom and Democracy" .
It’s genuinely so sad to see a country with such a rich history divided and destroyed for so long
Thanks to the supposed defender democracy, the United States this happened
Rich history lmao was invented in 1888 farthest back
@@sidp5381 lmao did you even watch this video? US had nothing to do with it. It was Russia, UAE, and Turkey, funding a proxy conflict, that cause Libya to fall apart. Plus boneheaded power plays from Libyan warlords.
@@sidp5381while I'm sure Washington didn't miss Gaddafi one bit, I'll be very clear - Gaddafi has made an enemy out of everyone. His neighbors, all the major world powers, and also his own people.
I'm not denying how Libya under Gaddafi was moderately prosperous. I'm here to make a case that Gaddafi lived as a man who wholly bought into the idea of his own greatness, lived in excess in how he conducted his politics at home and abroad, and that delusion of grandeur is what killed him. Libyans had enough of political repression and sham democracy, and nobody overseas would miss Gaddafi if he were to die. And thus Gaddafi died like a manged mongrel.
I'm not saying it was rightful for him to die from a lynching - anything but. He should've had a free and fair tribunal. I'm just describing history as it happened, and how Gaddafi engineered his own grand life and downfall.
Gaddafi's foremost priority in life isn't the prosperity of Libyans. It was to fulfill his self image of omnipotence. What investments he made for Libyans, are incomparable to the luxuries he afforded for himself, and the resources he invested in his many global crusades. War against Chad, against the UK, against Israel, and more fundamentally, against established International Rule of Law. Gaddafi wanted to reshape the world to his image, and that hubris killed him.
@@sidp5381Gaddafi himself carries the most blame here. If he wasn't such a greedy dictator and actually put his citizens interest over his personal, he wouldn't be killed by his own people. He also totally fucked up foreign relations by acting irrational and alienating a lot of powerful countries.
سلام Please please understand .. take the truth I’m from libya
We are in Libya divided politically . Politically only .. the situation Now 2023 on the land the reflection & war is stopped since 3 years .. now the country stable
& Libyan people are brothers now .all my friends from western area I’m from eastern area there’s no problem between the people her seriously. Ask any one in Libya . this is the truth . & the clear evidence was Daniel floods in eastern area all western & south Libyan people came to east & helped us , supported us & cried with us ,they gave us their food their water their medicine their clothes , literally .. so we are peacefully together one heart , all the Libyans together 🇱🇾🕊️🤍 2023 الحمد لله
You forgot to mention French and Italian support of the opposing sides.
We Italians support the democratically elected President, backed by the United Nations.
France supports the general on the other side, backed by America.
There's literally nothing in common.
@@danielefabbro822 I meant wright that.
France wants to limit Turkey's claims in the Mediterranean sea and supports Greece's claims for waters, so the general is their guy.
@@Dangur2 we have also saved the vast majority of the refugees that have escaped from the war and again also the migrants.
All welcomed in Italy. With water, food, a roof over their heads, a warm bed and the chance to start anew here.
While France, UK and America have done nothing, they even closed their borders.
They first bombs harmless people than they refuse to help.
I feel ashamed by having them as "allies".
@@Dangur2 French casually supports a war lord with RUSSIA. NATO sees none of it. great.
@@danielefabbro822your democracy is a scam and is American puppetism😂 your current pm was labeled as threat to democracy because she wasn't chosen by usa😂
Without US and NATO, I think Libya would be much more peaceful now
lol. Gandaffi was behind some many terrorist act. If you want peace in your country, stop terrorizing other countries and stop blaming all Arab problem to America and Europe.
Absolutely yes 💯
Khalifa Haftar is also a an american citizen
He is also a CIA backed individual...who often switched sides with whatever power provided assistance...
i never liked him anyway but its not up to me @@dannylo5875
The intervention was not "NATO", it was Britain (Cameron), France (Sarkozy) and, rather belatedly but with a very enthusiastic Hillary Clinton at the helm (what would later get her the nickname "Killary"), the USA. Italy and Germany very especially opposed the intervention. Italy, which had been cultivating Gaddafi for a long time already, especially under Berlusconi, saw in fact their oil assets transferred to France and Britain as result, Germany was not in the mood either for whatever their own reasons. Broadly speaking it was a neocolonial intervention against Italian interests... but also about Gaddafi's plan to create a gold currency for Africa, which could have caused troubles to USD and FCA franc hegemony.
It's the proof that we Italians are not considered allies by the other members of NATO.
Reason why we should leave the alliance.
We not only have important interests in Libya, Libya was one of our former colonies and we wanted that Libya could grow economically in order to become a good partner to us.
But Europe and America destroyed everything.
It was a mortal hit to Libya and a spit on our face for us Italians.
And now that there's no more Gheddafi, we have also to welcome and hold all the migrants that are coming from Africa because France and UK don't want them.
NATO is not anymore useful to us Italians. I'll vote to leave it.
Trouble USD?!
Maybe Germany just didn't want a useless war for neocolonial profiteering in their periphery.
@@mayer14474 yes. The US Congress have already rised again the debt threshold in order to not declare failure. Bankrupcy.
@@mayer14474 - The US dollar (backed by Saudi oil since 1973) doesn't like competing divisas, as much of US power lays on financial hegemony and manipulation, and that's why the USA is obsessed with controlling oil (to force its purchase in US conditions and especially in USD) and is by extension also very dedicated to delay the green energy transition.
Since I am a Libyan, I give you good news that the situation will improve in a short time and the country will return to the better..
Muammar Gaddafi, the conscience of the world 🟩✌🏻
I want that too. But how?
The situation is much better than before The army, led by Haftar, will launch a lightning operation and take control of the entire Libyan territory@@LIGHTandPEACE
@@Mohammed96MHey Haftar, what do you say? This is a terrorist and he fought all the parties in Benghazi that were not supported by anyone. He secured its people and led it into a war that lasted four years. Many innocent people died there and from the groups that had previously been revolutionaries on 2/17 that were oppressed. He accused them of murder and terrorism charges that were completely false. Evidence, but she always denies the charges, and yet he fought her to control her and the rest of Libya by force. In the past, he was a prisoner in Chad, and then America took him and he defected to Gaddafi. Also, he will not be able to control Libya because he already tried in 2019, but he failed, lost, and left, and he will not be able to control Tripoli because even Its people have bombed it and bombed the innocents, so how do you want them to accept it? No one will forget his crimes against the Libyan people, so how do you want him to be its president?
@@VolmerHamden You are either a terrorist or an agent... We all know that after 2011, people came to Libya and the East, specifically in Benghazi, Derna, and Ajdabiya, and they killed and bombed, and when the Caliph started the war, they slaughtered and carried out suicide bombers, and we all know this.
@@VolmerHamden Khalifa Haftar, the next president of Libya, with American, Russian, Emirati, and even Turkish support. Khalifa Haftar now has many allies in the western region...just remember my words.😉
I have heard rumors on why Gadaffis was overthrown in support by France. France maintains a post-colonial presence that controls half of the central money reserves in the French treasury with the CFA Franc of Sub-Sahara Africa in West and Central Africa countries. French companies get preferential treatment of resource extraction and businesses. France is believed to have wanted Libya's oil and the fear of the decline in Sub-Sahara Africa with Gadaffis Pan-Africanism. Gadaffis may have wanted to use the his oil money to purchase gold and expel the CFA Franc . This could in theory lead could have led to the decline and possible loss of the French presence in Africa.
There is never a single “why.” There are dozens of competing factors that push actions and alliances. The issue you cite would just add weight to one side of the scales.
yes, France was the biggest lobbyist for the downfall of Gaddafi for this exact reason, for all the "liberte egalite fraternite" slogan the french government likes to publicly push, they are still a colonial nation with colonial interest in the western/ central Africa region.
The 'they want the oil' theory is one of the most common heard theories when trying to explain conflicts. But oil isn't that important a resource. There is plenty of oil all around the world. Literally every continent (except Antarctica) has oil, it's not a scarce resource, and oil is readily available on the global market at the daily market price. There is as little reason to wage war over oil as there is to wage war over iron ore.
People said the Gulf War, the Iraq War and The Syrian War were all about oil, but nobody ended up taking the oil, or even attempted to take the oil. Whether it's the US, or Russia, or China, or the EU, everybody is quite happy to just buy oil from whoever is willing to sell it.
@@pjacobsen1000 Exactly. Iraq and Afghanistan cost the U.S., which now produces most of its own energy, quite literally 14+ trillion dollars. No amount of favorable oil access is going to make up for that.
@@belisarius9515 The French certainly don’t GAF about Ukraine. They’re giving the bare minimum, constantly calculating what’s just enough to keep from getting criticized internationally. But by comparison, Belgium makes France look like the UK, US & Poland combined when it comes to giving. They’re an utter disgrace.
It’s possible that the crisis in Gaza might help improve the situation in Libya because at least now many of the outside powers are meeting and talking - Turkey, Egypt, Qatar, UAE, etc.
I think we may disagree in a lot of stuff regarding domestic and foreign policy, but I can't deny that your content is top notch and I really appreciate it!
Erdogan once again trying to play the masked puppeteer in the shadows.
Bet you that Gadafi is popular even today in Lybia
your videos are always so informative
i love west ignores how libyan plp life under gadaffi they had evrtyhing many plp from other coutry came to libya to work many of my friends where in libya made aot of money there working f. west
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Did a US president call Libya Middle East? lol
The only argument could be said about eastern Libya, which could qualify to be closer to Egypt and the east than Tunisia and the west, hence even with that definition, Libya as a whole would still not be middle eastern, neither in culture, nor history.
No matter how rich and determined you are, you cannot do anything in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East without permission from the Turks.
Bro shut up and go make me some kebabs
Average turk who thinks he is better than everyone else.
I miss Gaddafi man
He had a lot of problems, but he was one of the best leaders Africa has ever seen and he was done so dirty.
I'm from Libya
Unfortunately this is true
Why Libyans hated Gaddafi?
@@ghostdiaries369 Libyan people are mostly left wing and Gaddafi was an extremist right wing so whoever talks about being a left wing and says a bad thing about Gaddafi gets excuted in public to terror the others
Libyans never show hate to Gaddafi till the year of 2011 Libyans successfully gathered secretly ,planed to over throw Gaddafi in 2011/2/17
So as a said Gaddafi was a right wing that means left wings gonna usually hate his government
And the west (left wing superpowers) found it a god opportunity to over throw Gaddafi since his own people are turning against him .
Ghadaffi should have stayed in power. The USA pushed him over because a headless countey is weak. It worked.
USA didn’t partially like Muammar Gaddafi, but he sowed the seeds of his destruction over decades. No reason Libya couldn’t have been strong country, but by destroying all other institutions in the country that provide cohesion in society, it hollowed out the country.
PS - As usual, western powers were clueless about thinking what comes next.
did you even listen to the video? I fail to see what 'The USA' gains from this anarchy, much easier to control one leader than many armed factions and Quaddafi was already working with the west. Simplistic and probably politicized answer for a very complex situation.
How many instances of "Nato/USA supporting rebel militias gone wrong" have we experienced lately??
And they are still doing it in Syria and Iraq and Ukraine
I think it was succeful the Libyan terrorist attacks have stopped.
@@baha3alshamari152Ukraine at least has an Endgame, they join European Union and NATO.
@@thegoodpimpsthey'll never join NATO unless they succeed in kicking Russia out of their territory and make an agreement with them to stop the war. We all know if Ukraine joins NATO it will cause more conflict since all Europeans will have to forcefully put boots on the ground.
I thought Qatar was the biggest supporter of the first rebelion in libya.
As libyan this is the best video I’ve watched about libyan civill war, thank you for you honesty. ❤️
نحن الشعب الليبي ندعم حفتر و نعتبره قائد لنا
القائد يجب ان يكون قوي وليس كلب للغرب
Why doesn't Egypt have any interests or involvement? They support Gaza plenty but wont touch Libya?
In what way does egypt support gaza? Everything I hear is about how egypt has closed their border to the gazans & want nothing to do with the situation.
A video full of errors and lies
In search of silver libyans lost diamond.
I think it is time for a promotion for Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar.
Maybe ''Supreme Generalissimo''
or ''Ultimate Warrior'' ??
How about “stupid semi-dictator”?
There’s no rank after field marshal in libya
America and its Western allies are happy with the disastrous situation in Libya. This is what they wanted from the beginning to destroy and dismantle Libya so that it would not be able to issue its own currency in Africa
80 Well. The Lord Jesus Christ said that it is not good to give the bread of the children to dogs. But at a meeting where the Message is at the centre, the Holy Spirit is directly responsible for the actions He will lead you to do. But apart from that, do not listen to a person who has no interest in Salvation. Consider that God has given you the gift as a means to lead his children to Him.
81 A disease can be placed on someone by God to lead him to salvation. But someone who has no interest in Salvation can be a dog, a dishonest person, or a sex offender whom God has put in chains. And if you deliver him, you can be responsible before God for the actions he will do after that healing. That's why you must ask him questions before you pray for him.
82 Thus it is with what you must do with spiritual gifts. And if it is a prophetess, during a campaign of evangelism, after the songs of meditation, she will come and speak before everyone as the prophets would do.
83 You can go anywhere. And you are free to say what you want. I repeat that a gift is a bait to get a Message across. It is obligatorily that. A gift operating without a Message is a power of seduction, as we see everywhere with the evangelicals.
I didnt know Gaddafi supported the ANC or the IRA, cool.
And the Moro National Liberation Front and Moro Islamic Liberation Front in the Philippines for 40 years...
Libia probably would be splitted between Egypt and Algeria (and their allies).
Their attraction is too powerful for such ruined and sparsely populated country.
Egypt especially they'll exploit the oil for everything to help stabilise the nation
Libya is struggling. But the future is bright if Libya follows the blueprint of previous war torn countries
Which ZOG Capitalist destroyed ("war torn") country stands on its own today?
I bet not a single one.
12 years of constant war but people like this guy act like it's not so bad because Obama was the president at the time.
Like Iraq!
@@RenéSaussyIronically Iraq was one of the few countries today that the US pumped money into and kinda saved it from economic turmoil from Baathist mismanagement of the economy
@@enriqueperezarce5485 they didn’t do it very well though.
USA out of the ME and energy independent. Only nations USA should fund are western-allied countries that can stand on their own after the USA leaves. Thankfully, for the USA taxpayer, the number of such countries can be counted on one hand.
I watch this video from libya thanks for explain