A 91-year-old froze to death outside her retirement home. She’s not the only one

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  • Two years ago Vera Wilson left her retirement home in the middle of the night, was locked out and was found frozen to death hours later. CBC’s Katie Nicholson breaks down what happened, similar instances in Canada and why this tragedy could become more common.
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    • @shari9721
      @shari9721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

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  • @janicehales2958
    @janicehales2958 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +439

    My grandfather suffered from dementia and he was always wandering away from his home. It was getting so hard for us to keep up with him that we decided to put him in a nursing home. We told them how he loved to wander off, so they put a sensor in a watch they gave him. After that every time he left the building the alarm would alert them that he had gone outside. They were always going after him to pretend to join him on his walks while making sure he came back safely. It was such a relief for us to know he was being cared for, and was very happy with his new friends.

    • @saythankyou111
      @saythankyou111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Great story….good results, was that expensive 👀🇺🇸🕊

    • @julsjewels3185
      @julsjewels3185 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      This would have saved this poor lady. Her family must be especially distraught.

    • @ethics3
      @ethics3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@julsjewels3185 A person watching the monitors would have also saved this poor woman...

    • @user-gv9zy4ki1x
      @user-gv9zy4ki1x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Several family members could not keep up with one patient. How do you expect to delegate such task to a staff member who is responsible for many many patients.

    • @sandyjuntunen4088
      @sandyjuntunen4088 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-gv9zy4ki1x that staff has several people to help- if it's not severely understaffed. Nurses, nurses aides, medicine aides, has one job- not like a family member trying to balance responsibilities & lives of their own. That's why families put them there! They're given cameras, bed alarms, and door alarms too- everywhere, too. No excuses for an unlocked door after 10 p.m., no camera, alarm, guards or bed checks for hours. None.

  • @amandasunshine2
    @amandasunshine2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +247

    As a former CNA, I left the profession because we were so understaffed, this kind of thing happens. It is heartbreaking to watch and not be able to do anything about. We had CNAs bringing in residents clothes, staying way late past their shift to help out, bringing in extra food for them.. I wish I could've done more. 😔

    • @janicechilders4885
      @janicechilders4885 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Amanda, you have a good heart❤you did what you could. Thank you for your years of service.🙏

    • @willieverusethis
      @willieverusethis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Thank you to you and all of your coworkers.

    • @brega6286
      @brega6286 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      You are doing more by speaking out.

    • @marilynwillett804
      @marilynwillett804 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      so you left because they were under staffed.

    • @rexchiquine6049
      @rexchiquine6049 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      you have a heart amanda,,,

  • @sandraullmann5711
    @sandraullmann5711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    These are the exact reasons that I visited my own mother on a daily basis, and never went at the same, so that I could see whether she was being cared for properly and if we were going outside I made sure she was dressed extra warm, to prevent her from getting a chill.

    • @ElaineTaylor-xr1kx
      @ElaineTaylor-xr1kx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Good for you, my sister visits our dad on a different schedule all the time, we have to advocate for our loved ones.

    • @CourierSixMojaveExpress
      @CourierSixMojaveExpress 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thats amazing you did that. This woman needed someone checking her regularly. We dont know how frequently her son visited her but if he did the time she went missing was 10pm-420am those are not visiting hours so even if he went to see her everyday the staff failed her during the times family couldnt see her. She would have been dressed down by then and ready for bed

    • @travelinggirl6681
      @travelinggirl6681 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I used to visit my mom every day but I went around the same time. One day I found her bed was made but it was soaked with urine. I found out later that one of the aides was known for slapping the residents. My mom had dementia but didn't like this aide so I suspect she had slapped my mom at some point. They were so under staffed and the owners of the "home" were continually cutting more and more workers to run on a skeleton crew. No matter how many complaints were made to the on-site manager, things deteriorated. This place was one of the two top rated nursing homes in my area. It looked all shiny and loving on the outside but once a resident checks in, you see the real truth.

    • @tinkapookie
      @tinkapookie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I visited my mom everyday and within three weeks she had huge blisters on her backside and feet. It took me a week before the facility would let me check her out of that bullshit facility. She was so happy to come home.

    • @travelinggirl6681
      @travelinggirl6681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tinkapookie Ohhh, you brought her home? What a wonderful thing to do. It is horrible that she suffered so much in such a short time.

  • @sandyjuntunen4088
    @sandyjuntunen4088 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    4 hours without any checks. That alone is huge. After 10 p.m., and that door had no alarm or locks? No outside cameras & no monitors for them, no security guards outside?
    Care home, nursing home, assisted living or retirement home, all of them need these things for people! If a senior can't live independently that's enough to indicate a need for these things.
    There's no excuse for this, none at all.

    • @susanc4622
      @susanc4622 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It was a retirement home. She shouldn’t have been there. The family should have been made aware of her deterioration so she could have been moved to a more appropriate facility.

    • @elainebmack
      @elainebmack 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Please realize that the mental and physical state of the elderly can change suddenly. Independent one day, then the next day they can't remember their name. It happens all the time.

    • @alyciamarie4163
      @alyciamarie4163 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What happened is bad but you missed 99% of what they stated

    • @lilylove2021
      @lilylove2021 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Easy to say 😏

  • @Sherri1971US
    @Sherri1971US 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    What a nice gentleman and son. Sorry for your loss sir.

  • @rickboer7715
    @rickboer7715 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    If she had a a button that sets off an alarm when one falls she may have been saved.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Do they work outside a building and do they tell the staff where the resident is located? I think the answer is probably no.

    • @pamschmidt6253
      @pamschmidt6253 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      My Dad had one of those that but he kept taking it off. My Aunt lives in Hungary, the government has provided these free of charge to any Senior who applies for them. Her's looks like a big wrist watch, seldom saw her wearing it but maybe she does when she is home alone.

    • @ishouldbeworking9800
      @ishouldbeworking9800 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I've heard older generation doesn't like those buttons because it's a symbol of being old and incapable.

    • @clarencemolina2343
      @clarencemolina2343 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I work in a senior home. And we have security checks all the time. If someone didn't show up for their breakfast, lunch, or dinner we called them if they didn't answer we would go to their room and check if they were there. In case they are not there we will check the whole building and if still we can't locate them we will call the family and ask them if the senior is with them. We have also a log-out book for residents that they need to sign every time they go out. It will indicate there also where are they going or what time/day they will come back.

    • @momof1576
      @momof1576 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That poor woman. This should never have happened

  • @bernadettezelenski3491
    @bernadettezelenski3491 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    I can't believe this story. What a terrible outcome for this lady. My heart aches hearing this.

  • @CalebHussey
    @CalebHussey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    How much you want to bet that the vast majority of these deaths are happening at for-profit care facilities?

    • @SueP-jg9vx
      @SueP-jg9vx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      its just as bad at other ones too

    • @joywebster2678
      @joywebster2678 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Ont for profit longterm families were removed. Retirement homes are all for profit.

    • @pinedelgado4743
      @pinedelgado4743 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yep! It's all about the almighty dollar!

    • @nikkidarkangelpnope8400
      @nikkidarkangelpnope8400 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Trust and believe the government is doing no better job of caring for the elderly than private facilities.

    • @SueP-jg9vx
      @SueP-jg9vx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      you have a chance at decent care if you are raking in a good $5-6000 a month in pension but still, if you have no concerned family visiting you, you will likely be screwed.

  • @Solidrock-jq6rp
    @Solidrock-jq6rp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    It’s easier than you think. I worked in a nursing home in 1972 & this happened on the late shift & she wasn’t found until morning. Another time about 20 years back, we were on the interstate & I happened to look over to back of a nursing home & there was a woman by herself wandering around. I had my husband get off the interstate and we found the home & notified them and they found her before anything bad happened.

    • @marinakaye8284
      @marinakaye8284 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah! I live next to a kindy, when my kids were small, their little friends would hop the fence and come and play. Once my kids even slid under our fence and joined the kindy! It's not just the oldies than can go walkabout. lol Gotta have eyes in the back of your head.

  • @VictorHayley-sf3wf
    @VictorHayley-sf3wf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +267

    So what happened to bed checks ever hour or more especially for elderly ill seniors? Their biggest act of negligence cannot be forgiven.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      It's a retirement home, not a long-term care facility. She may not have even been in bed every hour. Her cognitive capacity should have been assessed more often probably.

    • @AnArchyRulzz
      @AnArchyRulzz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dinkster1729 That's the problem, they are willing to take these people's money, but aren't willing to tell them they can no longer care for them and they need LTC

    • @commonsense6967
      @commonsense6967 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@dinkster1729And honestly, how did the family not notice the decline in her condition, also. This is so unfortunate.

    • @collinsfriend1
      @collinsfriend1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@commonsense6967 Some dementia behaviors can be isolated or sudden. All facilities even for independent living if apartment style like this one appears to be could have a discreet alarm so the staff can quietly take a look without the resident feeling spied on or controlled inappropriately.

    • @sharondoan1447
      @sharondoan1447 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Let me give you a possible explanation of how the staff might not be able to make the “ hourly” check. . A patient has become combative and created a major event in their room. This is not unusual. Nursing home residents get confused about why they are not allowed to leave at will, they may believe they’re at school and their mother is waiting for them to come home, or a thousand other scenarios. No explanation is satisfactory that helps deescalate the growing anger, fear, even panic the poor patient is experiencing. So, most or all of the available staff , of which there are fewer and fewer, has to help with the emergency. Multiple emergencies may be going on simultaneously! Please don’t automatically assume that anyone was callously ignoring your loved one. And please don’t imagine that it’s easy to make sure every patient can have every need met every day.

  • @marygiuliano1891
    @marygiuliano1891 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    I’m sorry this happened to your mother and your family. Devastating. Thank you for sharing with those of us who also have elderly parents in need of constant care.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty hard to provide constant care if she only occasionally gets lost. Who would want someone looking at them 24/7 anyway?

    • @phil4v8
      @phil4v8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏💞🌍🌫🙏

  • @personincognito3989
    @personincognito3989 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    People have to remember this was independent living, so they don't check on them. Every hour like a long term care facility

    • @jaligawesa
      @jaligawesa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True that!

    • @deirdrekiely6187
      @deirdrekiely6187 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      There are independent living facilities with alarms on the doors. I know - I've seen them myself. Security at some level should be provided.

    • @sarapanzarella97
      @sarapanzarella97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We had a man go missing from a memory care ward 3 miles from where I live last year. Found a week later in the pond on the nursing homes property.

    • @smfarrie2943
      @smfarrie2943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@sarapanzarella97 a nursing home down the street from me had two older ladies escape. Another neighbor found them hiding in his garage. Nursing home didn’t even know they were gone even after several hours. The state fined them a million dollars.

    • @TeresaMom1
      @TeresaMom1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For the very expensive price they pay to live in independent living facilities all should have someone checking on them. Or at least an alert alarm of some sort on the doors to tell them who is coming & going. Plus in many of the independent living facilities, there are residents who need & get round the clock nursing/Dr Care. There's also some kind of Staff working 24 hours in the independent living facilities and at least 1-2 nurses.

  • @jeannienickel7
    @jeannienickel7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Sorry for your loss
    Having aging parents myself and recent passing of my 92 yr old dad. It’s incredibly hard in independent living apartments. My dad’s neighbours averaged 90 - 103 yrs old. After assessment we moved dad reluctantly to a private well security care centre. He even tried to get out until he accepted this was necessary.
    Families NEED to be involved in changing health as dementia can deteriorate quickly
    If you can’t then hire private staff to look in on your parents
    The independent living staff is not hired to monitor tenants
    It’s only going to get worse as we age. Be prepared

  • @carinwiseman4309
    @carinwiseman4309 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I had a friend whose husband went up to roof of care home. Again, the door licked behind him. He died up there, and they didn't think to look up there for 2 days. Unforgiveable.

  • @isisemkeb
    @isisemkeb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The samething happened to a 93 yrs old woman sane of mind here in Quebec. There was a false firealarm. She went outside and the doors looked behind her. She was found frozen six hours later. It was - 35°C. She walked in front of cameras on and on, but ...

    • @maryseflore7028
      @maryseflore7028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I remember that. It was Gilles Duceppe's mother. She was hard of hearing, but could hear the alarm, so she walked out - she could not hear the message that it was a false alarm though, so she went outside instead of back in bed.
      I'll never understand how there was not even ONE unlocked door that could have saved her.

    • @garynachbauer8144
      @garynachbauer8144 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maryseflore7028there should be some standard practice to check the number of people room by room after such an incident, like in elementary school we had fire alarms and we would get counted when we lined up outside, each teacher knew the number of people in their classrooms, count the number of people outside, check each room after the alarm to ensure they all got back inside, maybe make the fire department responsible to audit the emergency plans or just have a standard procedure, as a society we care more about money and profit than each other and its getting worse every year

    • @OceanLifeMoorea
      @OceanLifeMoorea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maryseflore7028 Je m'en souviens aussi très bien. J'ai travaillé pour la compagnie qui possédait ces résidences "de luxe" pour séniors !!! Quelle horrible fin pour la maman de G.Duceppe . L'entreprise a été lourdement sanctionnée $$$$$$$

  • @manjitdhillon4368
    @manjitdhillon4368 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Sorry to hear this happening. I almost cried and have lots of sympathy for you and your family 🙏

  • @pattyd8480
    @pattyd8480 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    My heartfelt sympathy to anyone who has lost a loved one in this way. 💗 So incredibly tragic.

  • @chilloften
    @chilloften 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Nurse here, in long term care. 25 pts my hall with three aides 7p-11p and 2 aides 11-7.
    Honestly I was not allowed to hold them accountable to anything, like changing or checking on my patients every 2 hours. I have been fired from 4 facilities while trying to get things done right and lawful.
    I’m just hated for it and terminated.

    • @susangardiner
      @susangardiner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Been there. The owners of the business will put money ahead of what is right.

    • @beagledog2001
      @beagledog2001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      RN here, too, was never allowed to hold anyone responsible for anything. Every shift I was trying to get coworkers out of the break room, off their cell phones, etc., or trying to locate them at all. I was told that it was my responsibility, but had absolutely no back up. Loved working with geriatric residents but left after 3 years.

    • @PossessiveK
      @PossessiveK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm so sorry for your mistreatment, and I'm grateful for your attempts to do the right things

  • @elaineandstevecorke7006
    @elaineandstevecorke7006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I am so sorry for you.... my heart is broken for the treatment of our elderly and your precious mother.

  • @robertnahum5823
    @robertnahum5823 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Don't be in a rush to judge. I worked in a retirement home. They are always short staffed and extremely busy. HCA's are expected to do a ridiculous amount of work, not to mention she got out of bed and did indeed wander. It's a tragedy but it happens. It wasn't intentional it was a mistake. Retirement homes are different than care homes.

    • @user-gv9zy4ki1x
      @user-gv9zy4ki1x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well said.

    • @louelaine3680
      @louelaine3680 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree. This incident was not the fault of the staff. It was the fault of the management, not to insure these extra precautions.

    • @9avedon
      @9avedon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The corrupt Retirement Home Regulatory Authority, (RHRA) was set up, in partnership with Ontario Long Term Care, to redefine ALL Retirement homes as Care Homes ......aka..Nursing Homes.The RHRA is a smoke screen, to circumvent any investigation into the inconsistent funding of "Full Nursing Care" in some Retirement homes. I'm an expert with over 20 years on the inside. The government has set up a billing system that is run by and benefits "Members of a College" investors.

    • @alexandrasymeon5893
      @alexandrasymeon5893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There's no excuse for being short staffed. The care homes or retirement homes need to cough up the money and hire more people. This is absolutely ridiculous.

    • @louelaine3680
      @louelaine3680 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@alexandrasymeon5893 Private retirement homes are already extremely costly. My father pays well over $5,000/ month. More staff means even higher rates.

  • @gaetanneleduc7151
    @gaetanneleduc7151 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Beyond words Brian. How devastating for you and your family. Your poor mother. And that upper management didn't even reach out to you with condolences is so typical of retirement homes and LTC. I'm sorry for your loss.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In our case, the Duke of Devonshire told my sister with power of attorney of care and the social worker at the Bruyere that realistically my mother couldn't come back there. I don't know when the legislation came in that a retirement home has to go before the Landlord Tenant Tribunal to get a resident evicted came in. The social worker at the Bruyere pushed the idea of my mother going to another reitrement's medical floor. That was a disaster as well. They had no working call button for my mother. They wouldn't feed her anything but tepid gruel for the time she was on the floor, from the middle of May till she left in mid July--she lost 20 lbs. No activities. No one at the medical floor's nurses station on a regular basis. My mother's ace in the hole was that she was a World War 2 veteran and the government had promised WW2 soldiers free medical care for the rest of their days back in 1943 when she enlisted as a volunteer. The doctors at the Civic told my sister who is a little naive that she should go to the Bruyere for rehab when it was very clear that my mother couldn't profit from rehab at that time. That's when the Bruyere's social worker started working to get my mother out to that horrible retirement home far from my sister's house when the Duke of Devonshire was much closer. When my mother got to the Perley & Rideau Veterans' Retirement Home in mid July after falling in the first week of April, the care compared to these retirement homes was not exemplary, but excellent. My mother died on November 10, 2019, the day before Remembrance Day. 101 years less a day from the Armistice Day that ended WW 1 at age 95. Like Brian says, we have to act on "accidents" like this. We can't let accidents like this take away our loved one's lives or even their quality of life.

  • @TheJanet4321
    @TheJanet4321 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've worked at an independent senior apartment building for several years. Seeing more and more people in recent years moving in who are VERY CLOSE to needing more help, but assisting living, memory care, and LTC are so expensive now, I think residents and their families are trying to save money by moving their parent(s) into senior apartments, often not adequate for their situation/needs.

  • @MaggieBenjiSchnauzer
    @MaggieBenjiSchnauzer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is so tragic and sad it's hard to put into words. It should have never happened.

  • @ladyfeatherjane
    @ladyfeatherjane 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    in 1981 when i was 10, I had this 'adopted grandmother' from our local nursing home. Her roommate wandered away and was found dead in a field nearby. This was in Vulcan Alberta. It has been going on for a very long time.

  • @LuckyPenny-dw3uw
    @LuckyPenny-dw3uw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    So sorry for your loss
    This is not right at all

  • @createone100
    @createone100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    This just makes me bloody furious!! How tragic for this poor woman and her family! HOW could this happen? We know damn well HOW. Inadequate staffing levels and incompetence. If we don’t know this story by now in Canada, we never will. I really hope the family launches a massive lawsuit against the home and the Ontario Provincial Government. And you do not need to suffer from dementia to experience a fall and inability to get up without help.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Dementia may also not be the cause of you walking down the wrong hallway or through the wrong door to the outside as well ,but a door locking automatically certainly stops you in your tracks particularly if you limited mobility and no protection from the winter cold. However, retirement homes, not LTC's are not run by healthcare administrators, you know. They may not know the steps to take to keep people with poor eyesight or lacking a sense of direction or losing mental capacity (executive function goes first) safe. So sad. Other accidents with horrible consequences happen in retirement homes as well. My mother was found draped over her walker in her night clothes when housekeeping staff came in to refresh her room and get her laundry. She wasn't dead. She had suffered a mild heart attack and was revived by being wrapped in warm blankets and having warm water inserted into her bladder. Her arms' nerves had been stretched, however, and she never walked or had use of her arms or proper use of one hand again. She died 2.5 years later. If she had been monitored--she apparently had fallen several times before and the retirement home did nothing to encourage her to have regular inspections at night when her falling in public before should have been a red flag to the staff and the administrator. However, if the administrator has no medical or nursing training maybe he's not going to understand that this falling could cause a cascade of issues, if it happens when the person is in their private room or apartment, right? Would an alarm that came on when she fell have saved my mother? Would the administration telling her bluntly, "You can't stay here without regular night time inspections since you are falling unexpectedly." have helped my mother realize she needed surveillance especially when alone? I think we have to be tough with our older people who value their privacy and want to say, "I can look after myself." even when that is no longer realistic. The Duke of Devonshire was the retirement home and the Civic Hospital in Ottawa revived her. A gpvernment inspector pointed out the flaws in the retirement home's efforts at keeping my mother safe back in 2017 a few months after she fell over her walker. Those jobs have been eliminated, right?

    • @commonsense6967
      @commonsense6967 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This is NOT a dementia care facility, infact not a carefacility at all.

    • @createone100
      @createone100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dinkster1729 I am so terribly sorry that this happened to your Mum. It is tragic, very infuriating, and heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing that story. Governments could have given a damn 5 or 10 years ago. I give up hope that they are more than platitudes.

    • @tranquilblue3132
      @tranquilblue3132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you100% the family should launch a massive lawsuit against the home. I am a nurse and I'm appalled by this. I have worked in Long Term Care as well as Retirement. There is a lot more lifting in LTC then Retirement. And yes Everyone has worked short staff I have as well. But I have NEVER Lost A Resident Outside! There's No Excuse!

  • @sfox6996
    @sfox6996 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The doctor in charge, who is responsible for checking up on these residents probably should sit down and talk to them and listen.
    Instead of just writing notes on the chart and Moving onto the next person down the hall.
    Not surprised this happened in Ontario. The problem is, there’s nowhere for our parents to go when diagnosed with a deteriorating condition like dementia.
    And the fear of the people working within the homes who have a duty to report, are often overworked and underpaid. Our parents deserve more.. They certainly earned it over the last century.

  • @marianne5288
    @marianne5288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It is horribly sad how little these “care homes” actually care about the elderly.

    • @deekang6244
      @deekang6244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It wasn’t a care home, it was a retirement home. Very different.

    • @Darci3333
      @Darci3333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That doesnt eliminate them for being responsible for the people living there and paying to live there under their so called care.​@deekang6244

    • @простадівчина
      @простадівчина 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Darci3333 Paying A LOT. So much profit margins.

    • @marilynwillett804
      @marilynwillett804 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Darci3333 what care? it's for healthy mobile retirees.

  • @anglophils645
    @anglophils645 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    This is a retirement home, not assisted living, nor a nursing home. Retirement homes house people who are elderly, but healthy, and have the freedom to come and go. This lady needed a higher level of care. It was primarily her family's responsibility to keep up with the type of care she needed, and to find her a place in a care home. This was not the retirement home's fault. They have no responsibility to monitor the comings and goings of their residents/tenants.

    • @llamamama2910
      @llamamama2910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They should still monitor cameras and perform routine checks or nightly checks.

    • @TruckDriver2005
      @TruckDriver2005 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@llamamama2910Really, independent seniors living in their own apartments aren't going to want a bed check! I know because my folks are 79 and 83, and they live in an independent living facility. However, if they fall to many times the facility will recommend their assisted living or their nursing home facility to them. However, my folks have their own car and are still driving, so I can't imagine them being okay with bed checks. That's what I'm for. No, I don't physically go make sure they're in bed, but I usually call them every day to check on them. lol

    • @marilynwillett804
      @marilynwillett804 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@llamamama2910 CAMERAS YES BUT I suppose they have the right to stay elsewhere for the night if they are invited to.

    • @marigoldbeam5475
      @marigoldbeam5475 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are correct in the difference between facilities and the family's own responsibility to be cognizant of their parent's needs. However, surely a facility has a duty of care to their clients and as such should have informed the family that their mother needed a level of care that their facility did not provide and she must be moved? I wonder why they kept a client on the books whose needs they could not adequately meet?🤔 💸

    • @nodrogytsirk
      @nodrogytsirk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And there just aren’t enough beds in nursing homes! The wait list in Ontario is years long! I have friends who are very worried about this happening to their mom who can’t get a spot in a nursing home…she’s on the wait list and they’ve been told it could be 5+ years to get a spot.

  • @rosestarratt7053
    @rosestarratt7053 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    People need to take responsibility and be held accountable for these preventable, needless deaths. The heartache and horror families are left to suffer is unimaginable. I hope it doesn't take years of inquiries & studies before meaningful changes are made. This tragedy can happen to anyone. We need to act, sooner rather than later. As the doctor said, this will happen more and more.
    My condolences to the families. I hope you find peace.

    • @SueP-jg9vx
      @SueP-jg9vx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the staff dont want to be there, dont get paid enough. hard job. this is why this stuff happens.

    • @tranquilblue3132
      @tranquilblue3132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the staff don't want to be there then Quit!! simple as that.. Why should patients be treated this why..@@SueP-jg9vx

  • @sasharemez7459
    @sasharemez7459 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Government regulations make very difficult to keep good staff working. The pay is very low and the work is very hard.

  • @stephanieoregan
    @stephanieoregan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Very sorry for this families loss.

  • @SamiSolman
    @SamiSolman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    You also need to present the information from the retirement home management. How could this happen? What was the situation? Where were the caregivers? And other on duty staffs? She may have been at the early stage of dementia and not diagnosed on time. It is very hard to know what actually happened from just this piece of information. It is very sad this happened and shocking to anyone who cares about the elderly.

    • @SamiSolman
      @SamiSolman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most retirement homes have caregivers. There number and responsibility may not be the same as PSWs in LTCs. I work in the care sector and know the nature of the care services, unless this one is different and function on a different agreement or permit.

  • @commonsense6967
    @commonsense6967 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Unless residents are in a Memory-Care facility (for Alzheimer's or dementia) there is unfortunately nothing to prevent the residents from leaving the building at will, just as they would if they were at home. Therefore, they are only as safe as they would be at home. Now if this facility is a Memory Care facility, that's completely different, as it should be. Sorry for this man's loss. Usually the facility will notify patients' family when/if the resident is observed to be in need of custodial care, and infact notify the family that the resident cannot stay there any longer due to safety reasons.

  • @bernice4599
    @bernice4599 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Why wasn’t she living with her Son & daughter-in law? 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @TheJaniceJoy
      @TheJaniceJoy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      She did not want to live through Saskatchewan winters.

    • @leslielucci3182
      @leslielucci3182 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Some elderly don’t have children

    • @lelaine61
      @lelaine61 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      There are many reasons why family may not be able to take care of other family members at their home. Every family is different when it comes to schedules, finances, capabilities to taking on another’s disability🤔Count yourself fortunate to be able to provide such a blessing to another😇

    • @sammyjo8109
      @sammyjo8109 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      My father is 91 and in a facility. I'm 72 and took care of him until I had my third heart attack. he got to a point her would be awake almost three days straight. Many of us children are older and have health issues.

    • @marilynwillett804
      @marilynwillett804 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@sammyjo8109 Wow take care of yourself, I'm also in my 70's and care for my high func autistic son, 38, at home. He's such a wonderful blessing but even today he was going to wear inappropriate clothing for church until I intervened. I NEED to stay healthy for him, already one heart attack.

  • @enatp6448
    @enatp6448 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the idea of dementia villages such as the one modeled in Amsterdam I believe, is something we should seriously look at

  • @markae0
    @markae0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Gilles Duceppe's mother, 93, found dead of hypothermia ...
    Jan 21, 2019 - Hélène Rowley Hotte was locked outside in bitter cold after responding to early morning alarm

  • @commanderbarbie2550
    @commanderbarbie2550 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wtf? Why can’t they even get a simple ring cam?

  • @TheRonskins
    @TheRonskins 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You for uploading this story and for opening up the ability for viewers to add Comments. I especially am interested as I have an aging parent and appreciate having this knowledge in my mind if I need to look for a Retirement Facility in the future.

  • @kanases
    @kanases 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    omg 😭😭😭 That poor soul, this is absolutely horrible! I hope the home is held accountable! My condolences to the family💕

  • @jenniferschellenberg1721
    @jenniferschellenberg1721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    My heart aches for you and your family 😞
    Criminal negligence in taking care of our elderly

  • @sharongibson1161
    @sharongibson1161 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How awful, can't imagine the sorrow the family feels..im sorry for you loss😢

  • @ITreasureMEAromatherapy
    @ITreasureMEAromatherapy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot imagine your pain and loss. I am so sorry to even read this! Bless your Mother’s soul and your hearts!💖

  • @paularaegram9965
    @paularaegram9965 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Guilt is a horrible thing to live with. We (my family) are taking care of Mama at home. She has progressing dementia. It is so hard to do, takes 5 of her kids, and a nephew, occasionally, to do it and still mostly preserve the integrity of our home lives. Its not labor-intensive, but time-intensive, and an emotional drain. As we are generally medically-trained people, (half of us) we dont want to fall prey to the inevitable guilt of her demise because she cant be watched by staff members in a LCF, and she does NOT want to move. LCFs are ALWAYS understaffed. We want to keep her in her own home, where at least she still recognizes some of her surroundings. WE are all getting older with her. And we dont want the guilt of not being there for her when she truly needs us. She was there for us as children, and for her parents as they grew too old to care for themselves; we can at least do the same for her, but its not pretty or easy.

  • @pipe2devnull
    @pipe2devnull 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    People in care homes often carry a help button device on their person. It could be on a lanyard, on their wrist or clipped to their clothing. These devices could be improved to give their location and also to alarm with cold temperature.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could she have used a cell phone? if she could, shouldn't she have had a cell phone to dial 9-1-1? If she wasn't with it enough to use a cell phone, she probably needed more surveillance than she was getting. Maybe, this hallway should have been behind a locked door so residents couldn't access that door leading outside. Hindsight is 20/20.

    • @susanb.1113
      @susanb.1113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was not a care home.

  • @zoebear1992
    @zoebear1992 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so sorry for your loss! Blessings to you and your family 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Willowdale494
    @Willowdale494 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Having small-scale retirement homes would help prevent such tragedies.
    A house-type home with 5 or 6 clients and 2 staff would be better than a large institution. All the fancy facilities (gym, theatre, show kitchen, pool table room) homes like Seasons offer are not needed and end up costing much more per month. The facilities look nice, but they are often just there for show for families and not used as much by the residents.
    A small scale home environment where seniors help out with what they can (folding laundry, making sandwiches, setting the table, putting up seasonal decorations, suggest or organize activities, etc.) would provide a more familiar lifestyle for many. It would also be easier to create stronger bonds between residents and staff.
    My parents lived in a large retirement home (not Seasons but similar) for a while thinking they would be safer. They were not.
    The retirement home had hundreds of residents and only 2 or 3 staff members at night. They had a call button, but often the nurse couldn't come, so they had to call 911 themselves.

    • @henrycodm896
      @henrycodm896 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was looking for this comment! I'm a nurse in LTC and totally agree. Smaller facilities are the best. One level, two or three halls. That way if I'm the only person around I can still keep an eye on everyone, though it's very difficult still.

  • @momsterzz
    @momsterzz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nooo😢😢😢this shouldn’t happen
    Just heartbreaking 💔 💔 💔

  • @nancymoore8363
    @nancymoore8363 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sorry for your loss, it’s so difficult to deal with. Sending you ❤and healing energy.

  • @mikerichardson60
    @mikerichardson60 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    People seem to misunderstand the difference between a retirement community and long term care or a nursing home. Seasons is a very upscale retirement community. It's not designed or intended to provide 24hr monitoring of their residents. Do you think a condo building will be watching your every move and doing a bed check every hour? Of course not and that's what a Seasons is intended to be. For about $8000/ month you get a nice unit to live in, meals and great amenities.

    • @marigoldbeam5475
      @marigoldbeam5475 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed. So why did they continue to house a high dependent client whose caring/medical needs they could not meet? That sounds like negligence. Where was the risk assessment and referral to a high dependency unit?

    • @mikerichardson60
      @mikerichardson60 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marigoldbeam5475 again they aren't a nursing home. Risk assessment is the responsibility of the family and/or her physician. Seasons job is to provide a lovely living environment, great meals and wonderful amenities. Seasons isn't a babysitter or health care advisor.

    • @bereanborn888
      @bereanborn888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For $8000 per month they SHOULD do regular checks on all their community members even if it’s just for safety. Regardless if they state their establishment is like an overpriced unit block, and its not their problem…they knew this resident was dealing with dementia. They should have advised the family to move her to a more monitored facility when her condition began, but the money they received monthly would be quite influential in leaving her in place.
      Stating they have no responsibility is just an excuse for being uncaring as they have shown.

  • @mkb7013
    @mkb7013 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is absolutely heart wrenching!!!! 😢

  • @mollydooker9636
    @mollydooker9636 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I lost my 94 year old mother to dementia last year. They are so vulnerable once the illness takes hold. This is truly horrific, i am honestly speechless. My deepest sympathy. I hope you get answers and something changes because of it.

  • @user-xs5fz5hr3e
    @user-xs5fz5hr3e 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am truly sorry for the loss of your Mom. So heartbreaking to lose a Mom in any circumstance but especially when something like this happens. Hoping your family is doing ok.

  • @carolcooke2624
    @carolcooke2624 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This does happen. People wander outside no one is aware they are missing. Only on a lock down unit is it secure. I myself live in an elderly apartment building. It has happened here. A retirement home is not a nursing home. Family doesn’t want to confront the situation of relocating a family member often when it should be done for their safety.

  • @collinsfriend1
    @collinsfriend1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Even in a retirement community, there is no reason to not have a discreet bell at the desk or pager with a staff member so they can go check and see if the person is safe or wandering. One place I know of here (California) gives every resident a wearable personal alarm and they are monitored, educated to make sure they have it with them at all times. Even a person with no previous signs of dementia can suddenly go off on a tangent and sepsis, as in bladder infections can confuse some people even without dementia..
    Sometimes these things happen without a clue. People normally living alone or with a spouse ends up having driven their car to some far off place not knowing why they were there. An unexpected bout of dementia exacerbation. Sometimes it ebbs and flows and people can be VERY clever at concealing deficits to avoid placement or family taking control. It can be "blank spots" so a person may be able to complete a task up to the blank spot and after but unable to complete if not helped through that spot. They may decide they hate meat, but actually will eat it happily if someone cuts it up for them because they can't piece together HOW to cut the meat enough to cut it themselves. Or the noise and fast water of a shower may cause them to resist showers, violently sometimes or just stop them entirely. Someone sponge bathing may be afraid of falling, or agitated by the water but unable to describe it... They just find rational "reasons' to change their behavior rather than recognizing them as self delusion or concealment from others.
    Dementia can be tricky.

  • @sf6760
    @sf6760 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so upsetting. I'm
    So sorry for your mother and your family.

  • @samsmom1491
    @samsmom1491 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This made me cry like a baby. Absolutely heartbreaking.

  • @sallytidwell7804
    @sallytidwell7804 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Truly, Condolences for the loss of your Mother! 💐🙏

  • @justjacki
    @justjacki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My heart goes out to this man. Dementia recently took my mom’s life and I didn’t think it could be any worse, but I was wrong and my heart is so sad for Brian Wilson and his beautiful mother, they deserved so much more.

  • @dangerlade
    @dangerlade 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So very sorry for this to happen to you dear sir. So many stranger are behind you.

  • @djm5699
    @djm5699 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Condolences for your loss, so tragic. Seeing the video is such a load to bear.
    Prayers to you, for the peace of God that surpasses all understanding and to guard your heart and mind

  • @collinsfriend1
    @collinsfriend1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Guessing some things in Canada are similar to the US- In order to take hard line control of a person, the person has to either be declared incapacitated, conserved as a result, or declared mentally ill. People with advanced dementia rarely are capable of contesting family decision making, but some can depending on the dementia form. It is time consuming and a slow process to get conservatorship and the person has to be demonstrated as unable to make a rational decision- meaning not necessarily a decision we approve of. If they know who they are, where they are, reasonable date and time placement, who a major politician such as a president or PM, can answer other questions accurately, they may well NOT be conserved even if they make horrible decisions or do dangerous things anyway. People are fortunately protected from random or malevolent family or acquaintances.... but those same safeguards also can block needed intervention as well.

  • @kathleenmcintyre4058
    @kathleenmcintyre4058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heart wrenching story! So sorry for this man's loss of his mother in such a tragic way! This should not happen in Canada!

  • @ObamAmerican48
    @ObamAmerican48 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is heartbreaking and outrageous. 🥺

  • @goldswan7993
    @goldswan7993 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so heartbreaking 😢

  • @stacys2981
    @stacys2981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m very sorry for your loss.

  • @Serinity_Bliss
    @Serinity_Bliss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sending Prayers for this family

  • @theresekirkpatrick3337
    @theresekirkpatrick3337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sorry for your loss. So tragic

  • @judypurcell6571
    @judypurcell6571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😢 that is so sad so sorry for your loss may your mother rest in peace

  • @narcissiststorytime6413
    @narcissiststorytime6413 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sorry for your loss.

  • @Just12307
    @Just12307 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh my God! That is absolutely tragic!!😭

  • @sandymcqueen4930
    @sandymcqueen4930 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's so sad and painful . Stay strong son 🙏❤️

  • @lindaopperthauser2284
    @lindaopperthauser2284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely terrible!! How horrible for your Mother😢.
    I am so very sorry this happened. All residents should be checked to be sure they are in the building.

  • @jeanettehightower943
    @jeanettehightower943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sooo sorry so sad. My condolences 💐 🌹❤️

  • @susansupino4011
    @susansupino4011 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so sorry sir this happened to your poor mum, and for you and your family. This is terrible. 😢

  • @elizabethjackson2668
    @elizabethjackson2668 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So terrible. And so sad. May God comfort her son and family.

  • @JudyCarolA
    @JudyCarolA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Heartbreaking😢💔

  • @Rosejazjai
    @Rosejazjai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so heartbreaking.😢😢

  • @441rider
    @441rider 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I did 6 months security at a home and one of the primary tasks was keeping residents from exiting by fire doors. Learned a lot about aging and life outlook but sad the children in most cases and care givers were sub par.

  • @prympammi
    @prympammi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so sorry for your loss of your mama 😿

  • @Virginia_Gurlie
    @Virginia_Gurlie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is ABSOLUTELY FRIGHTENING and SAD😢 may GOD be with you and your family sir😪

  • @angelawood2978
    @angelawood2978 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Breaks my heart.

  • @kanders7391
    @kanders7391 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We took care of dad at home as long as possible. When we had to take him to a home because his dementia progressed so far he would suddenly jump up and run off down the street, we found a dementia care home with a tall brick wall around it & a tall locked gate.

  • @inwiththenew414
    @inwiththenew414 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Very sad. Mistakes happen. She eloped, but she did not go unnoticed and staff did go searching for her. I think the protocols implemented would definitely help in the future if it happens again. And they should consider adding more cameras outside to avoid blind spots.

    • @henrycodm896
      @henrycodm896 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The amount of time and lack of urgency was inadequate, though. Once they couldn't find her within about an hour max, police should have been called.

  • @ivonnezaragoza9936
    @ivonnezaragoza9936 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, so sorry for your lost 🙏

  • @lovely-mk4rt
    @lovely-mk4rt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heartbreaking 💔. My deepest condolences

  • @user-he6xd8rk5q
    @user-he6xd8rk5q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So heartbreaking 💔

  • @travelinggirl6681
    @travelinggirl6681 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so sorry that this happened to this gentleman's mom.

  • @lauraquigley6403
    @lauraquigley6403 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How very sad. I am so sorry this happened. It happened in a building I lived in to an older resident also. Very sad. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @patriciaoreilly8907
    @patriciaoreilly8907 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really upsetting RIP
    Brian i pray for you & do not live with guilt .

  • @Jarajenn3
    @Jarajenn3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ……. Horrific ..heartbreaking…. 💧💧💧💧💔💔💔💔

  • @carolinavargas2539
    @carolinavargas2539 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m a CNA this is so heartbreaking 💔 😢

  • @lindalewis8503
    @lindalewis8503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heartbreaking. Unacceptable.

  • @debrafrakes6479
    @debrafrakes6479 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    heartbreaking....

  • @debbiebrooks3473
    @debbiebrooks3473 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so sorry. God bless you.♥️🙏🏼🙏🏿🙏🏾🙏🏽🙏🏻♥️

  • @denisemcdougal6445
    @denisemcdougal6445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deepest condolences. How very awful.

  • @JustMeB729
    @JustMeB729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This breaks my heart.😢

  • @elizabethroessner8487
    @elizabethroessner8487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is awful! My condolences to this poor lad's son.

  • @jmo2104
    @jmo2104 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My heart breaks for you and for your poor mamma.