3 Times John Lennox Went Beast Mode
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- I love how John Lennox lays down the uniqueness of the gospel.
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@@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot I'd love to see that study or series of studies. Thanks!
@@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot Please provide supportive data. Lennox lays something out one can have and draw strength and inspiration from right then and there and from a point of mathematical precision and in math's proper perspective to this understanding of the greatness of God over all things. Psychotherapies never really cure anyone of anything. One is always "recovering," forever the victim. Gosh. Who else has this kind of rhetoric that has made their kind wealthy and powerful beyond belief we can't talk openly about? Why, it's the same group who came up with the fraud of psychiatry and psychoanalysis.
Me too. Former convict here. Found a Rescued not Arrested Bible in jail. Life has never been better. JESUS IS LORD
JESUS SAVES
BY HIS SPIRIT ZECH 4:6
One of my all time favorites. Super smart and incredibly kind. That he represents and speaks for the love of Christ is so endearing. In my better moments I strive to be more like him just as in my better moments I strive to be more like Christ. I hope there were some in the audience that night that were paying attention.
Well thats good. Paul did say, "imitate me as I imitate Christ."
I fall in love with JesusChrist, Our Lord, working in and through John Lennox
This was very well-spoken. It is amazing that God has guaranteed our salvation because we have faith in Jesus Christ (His Only Son). How many people are breathing today not knowing if they will be saved because their religion says it's up to them? Man, turn to Jesus and experience real, true, honest, gentle love
Uncle John has such a beautiful personality... Very polite, gentle and pleasant. How much more good will Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ be in person. Unimaginably good at heart. All glory to Lord Jesus Christ!
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The argument regarding the reality of objective morality is so strong and obvious to most of us. The reductional hypothesis destroys morality ethics and even science itself. Logical positivism was refuted by its own verifiable meaning principle decades ago. It’s so important that people are allowed to follow a religion they feel gives them Joy, meaning and purpose without having religious intolerance and a nihilistic world view rammed down their throats.
Even Albert Einstein recognised the problem with “fanatical atheists whose intolerance is of the same kind as the intolerance of the religious fanatics”
(Albert Einstein)
John Lennox has no training in Ancient History..gets everything wrong..conflates Information with Intelligence,authenticity with credibility...Nature with God...
Doesnt understand the Bible is historized Fiction...a deeply self deluded Charleton pretending to know something unknowable!
@@rationalsceptic7634 proof to support your argument?
@@rationalsceptic7634 the irony in your name and the comment you made is pretty humorous.
Exquisite logic. I like the way John Lennox thinks.
You call that thinking???
@Rolf Leseratz How?
GeoCoppens “you call that thinking??”
Well I don’t think all of that reasoning is a product of no intelligence, instead i see a mind behind it. 😎
@Rolf Leseratz how is John Lennox stupid?
@Rolf Leseratz so does this mean that the likes of Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein were also stupid?
He’s literally just the most precious little man I’ve ever seen 🥺🥺
One of the biggest men I have ever seen.
@@davidwoods607 not literally little in a physically way
@Matt I'm intrested! Give me an example where he did that? 🤔
@Matt a year later and still no answer to back up your claim. Fanatical athiest I presume.
@Matt so I looked at your channel, and I saw you have an infatuation with little boys.
Praise the Lord for Lennox.
I love him dearly❤️
I am not a Christian. But, I love listening to this gentleman.
Why aren't you a Christian what's keeping you from being one?
@@jgvtc559 😀
There’s still time for you. Jesus stands at the door and knocks.
@@jen4um 😃😃😃
@@jen4um 😃😃😃
Not because of who I am, but because of what He's done. Not because of what I've done, but because of who He is.
It's good to know we have His forgiveness from the start . I give thanks for His grace
If we repent AND trust in Him we receive forgiveness of sins.
@@redfaux74 that's a works based belief system and you are rejecting grace
@@tecumsehcristero- Trusting Christ is not works based. That's just stupid.
You're saying you don't have to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior? Words mean things. You cannot accept Jesus as Lord and you are the God who tells Jesus no. If He is Lord, you must accept what He says. It sounds like you are slandering grace, not accepting it.
What is more glorious than to use the mind God blessed you with to glorify Him....
John a brilliant man
John Lennox has no training in Ancient History..gets everything wrong..conflates Information with Intelligence,authenticity with credibility...Nature with God...
Doesnt understand the Bible is historized Fiction...a deeply self deluded Charleton pretending to know something unknowable!
@@rationalsceptic7634 I get he is right so you attack him, typical from the arrogant leftists that can't think unless told
What an amazing man. He's doing the Lord's work by using his bright mind to defend the belief in God with logic and reasoning rather than blind faith as many others do. It's important to have faith but we must also seek knowledge to concretely back up our beliefs when necessary.
One of the greatest minds of our time. When he goes home, there will be a large void to fill.
John, you are amazing !
This man understands the bible better than 99% of pastors.
Yes, John probably understands more than 99% of pastors...but that is already an exceedingly low bar.
Stunning insights of a real Christian!
One of my favorite man of God John Lenox..
I think the relationship of a child to his father is a much better analogy. How do you show your love to your father? You listen to him and honor him by doing his will (which also happens to be in your best interest and the best interest of those around you). If you don't listen to your father and you deny your father and refuse to do your father's will, then perhaps your brothers and sisters will inherit his great wealth in retirement while you do not.
A very good and Biblical analogy!
simply a great illustration...
I agree. Such warmth, intelligence, and humor. I wish he was my uncle, so I could chat with him at family funtions. :)
@@resilientrecoveryministries why did you title the video 3 times John Lennox went beast . It seemed to be just one great video though it cleared up the issues with works righteousness for me
This man is such a treasure, god bless him !
awesome stuff
God bless you professor!
A wonderful teacher
Mr Lennox does great harm perpetuating this nonsense..there have been many thousands of gods proposed by humans over time in hundreds of different languages and in hundreds of different countries.there is not and never has been the slightest evidence that any of them are real.why.He claims to know more than any primate can know.He claims to know not only that the there is a God.,he claims to know what his God does,thinks,wants.I don't care if he fools himself but he does great harm when fooling gullible people about an invisible undetectable celestial dictator who loves me and will torture me forever because he can't even introduce himself introduce himself without causing millions of humans to slaughter each other because he made such a horrible mess of something that any 5 year can do quite clearly.It is high time we humans grow up and out of this bronze age nonsense told by fearful uneducated superstitious misogynistic bronze age desert tribesmen in the most backward part of the middle east. men who thought that the earth was flat and that diseases came from curses.They thought that someone threw lightning bolts from the heavens.Men who forced their wives to sleep outside in a shed with the goats during their menstrual cycle.
Thank you .
Top man. Great comment.
If I could meet anyone in the world it would be John Lennox
John is awesome!
Awesomely stupid and deeply brainwashed!
@@GeoCoppens wow
@@GeoCoppens Thats a comment that would come from someone who was awesomely stupid and deeply brainwashed
@@anonymous-pu7qo Explain, you damn fool!
GeoCoppens I don’t agree with you but I respect your opinion and wish you all the best. I personally believe that atheism is just a part of the journey some of us have to take so I wish you Joy, peace and answers to your questions. You may enjoy reading some of Anthony Flews books. Hes a very interesting read. He developed some of the most sophisticated arguments against theism ever written and then shockingly converted to Deism (belief in a supreme being) after 50yrs of intellectual debate. Sadly he was accused of being senile and put under great pressure from his peers but he claimed he’d just followed the evidence where it led.. It’s clear that the road to truth and certainty is not straight forward and easy. Our social conditioning and the reductional materialist myth is a massive hurdle to climb over when it comes to respecting other people’s religious beliefs .
I come from a science working background and work in a emergency hospital setting. In my experience science fails when it ignores morals, ethics and ignores codes of conduct and our philosophy and duty of care. The nurses and doctors I work with sign up to a philosophy of care that is evidence based and promotes and protects metaphysical concepts such as consent, self determinancy, dignity, respect, altruism, cultural and religious diversity. This enables nurses and doctors to protect the public and promote their human rights. I think we need to be better informed and that we should celebrate cultural and religious diversity.
“It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense. It would be a description without meaning-as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure.”
(Albert Einstein)
This title is awesome 😂
That was ab amazing way to teach the Gospel... WOW
John Lennox is always great but this night stands out to me as one of his best, his audience at Harvard was great too. Watch it here: Miracles: Is Belief In The Supernatural Irrational?
Every time I see Dr John debate these atheists I see his joy in God!
Es un don juan..👍
Si, verdad? Hay que tomar notas. Estamos en la presencia de un gran maestro del romance.
Where are the videos of the other 2 times he went "beast mode"?.
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I would like to hear his whole speech! Where is the link?
Yes, the analogy of relationships applies to our relationship with the Father, but the big difference between holding one's acceptance of a spouse and that of the Father, is that you already know the spouse is real because you can see her. The same can never be said of our Divine Father-friend. We can only know him as a result of trusting there's something there to interact with. "Blessed are those who believe without seeing." While all relationships are an end in themselves, one of the main benefits of being in a relationship with our Father is to become more perfect. Others can help point us there, and we do well to pay attention to their input, but the Father's guidance is better.
anyone know where I can get the third video clip by itself?
My lazyness is destroying my life...
Just know that is your choice. Change it.
Same. 😔
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You can see the hate and anger coming out of Dr. Atkins ears.
The sin nature of the sinner comes out in these types of debates. It comes down to one thing. Saints can make beautiful presentations of a Creator, but we are spiritually blind until we encounter Jesus. I never debate with atheists or Catholics. I pray for them
I agree. Our pretty words do nothing to convert the sinner. But, how can they believe if they do not hear? So, we sow seeds. The outcome is not up to us. Also, you are right. Praying for them is way better than trying to smash them with logic, or woo them with our fine words.
@@resilientrecoveryministries Thanks for your comment. I do agree we have to speak , preach, share the gospel , as you said sow seeds. Thanks for the video my friend God bless.
John Lennox will be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.
This guy's voice cracks me up. 😂
He's Irish.
You must be American.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 yup
Who wouldn’t want him as the wise grandfather ? ;)
My understanding is that other philosophies and religions teach DON’T do to others as you would not want them do to you. Jesus moved this o to DO to others as you would want them do to you.
I believe you are right. Worse, many philosophies encourage you to give special treatment to the powerful and to be cruel, demanding, or patronizing to those you deem to be beneath you.
Rather than treat others as you would want to be treated, their mandate would be, "treat others as is appropriate to their station in life."
That cough is the crowd so annoying other than that loved what he said.
It is exciting to see John preach the gospel to atheists.
Jesus said he was the bread of life what for? that man would eat him that his life would get into us what you eat is what you become.
The real Jesus doesn’t accept everyone unconditionally. He said unless you repent you will perish, and unless you forgive others you wont be forgiven. In addition, He says whoever keeps His words shall never taste death. Those that just say they believe in Him and dont keep His commandments are liars (1 John 2:4).
I think he was saying that he accepts you unconditionally, but if you don't repent, you are rejecting him
@Jose Technically no, because merit refers to whether or not you have earned it or are worthy of accepting it. If Jesus says whoever comes to me I will in no ways cast out, he's saying if you simply accept me, then you're in. There are no additional conditions that he is placing on you, he's simply saying open the door and I will let you in. That's not merit at all. That's an invitation. If it were merit, then Jesus would be like the god of Islam where you have to do more good things than bad things to prove your worth. He says come as you are, and accept my invitation.
@@josephthomasmusic yes,but by accepting Him you will have changed in your heart...there are most professing christians that say they have accepted Him..but have they really...they won't be fooling Jesus..maybe themselves ..if you are using Jesus to get something you have missed the point...when the penny drops you naturally want to obey Jesus' commandments to love because He has given His life for us...
@@shaunswebtv that's very true, but not quite the point that I was making. You're talking about living a life as evidence of the character of Jesus which God requires us to do. However that is not a requirement for salvation. That's a requirement for living the life of a Christian. If you do not live with that love and forgiveness in your life and in your heart you're basically playing the part of a liar if you know Jesus you would act like it. But if you want to be saved by Jesus you simply have to accept him and commit your life to him. In other words my point is about justification not about sanctification. When you are saved you are automatically justified for salvation but that does not necessarily mean that you are sanctified. In other words Jesus is saying that you are forgiven but you also need to act with forgiveness in your heart to prove to the world that you live by the person of Christ. Jesus does not want a 50/50 type of person. He wants an All or nothing type of person.
If you truly believe you have to keep his commandments to earn the gift of salvation, then you misunderstand. The only thing required is faith that he died and rose again for your sin as he offered himself. If you came to faith and died the next minute you would be with Jesus. However, a person who is following Jesus will be transformed by the Holy Spirit and live different. The followers of Jesus will be different. I see Jesus in John Lennox. No matter how perfect we walk, we will at some point fail. Jesus whole reason for dying for us was because we will never be 100% perfect in this flesh. I listen to many street preachers who focus so much on sin and perfection and I do like those guys. I do agree with them to a point. However, our good works are not enough to cover our sin, it’s ONLY Jesus. The cross was the most important event in human history. It is the faith alone that saves us. Does that mean we don’t strive to be perfect? No of course not. John Lennox was not saying we don’t repent, he was explaining that there is nothing we can do to earn it. It is the gift of God truly a gift. If we could earn a gift it would not be a gift. That does not mean we are to live sinful lives. I don’t think he was saying anything about that. Initially to be saved it requires faith in Christ alone. Works will show a persons faith but salvation requires no work only faith.
So God is outside the nothing and therefore something/SomeOne. If God is timeless then there was never nothing.
Exactly
But in real life, adults neither should nor do they, accept each other unconditionally. Committed relationships require sacrifice, expectations, and growth. If you can't meet a basic level of resiliency and understanding, it won't work. A Jesus that accepts you unconditionally is a fantasy.
You misunderstand the gospel
@@jen4um Jesus didn't trash the money changers in the Temple because he accepted them unconditionally.
@@havadatequila you misunderstand righteous judgment. Jesus was without sin. They were defiling the temple. John Lennox was talking about salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith period. You do not work your way to salvation that is why it is a gift. Your only response is to accept it or reject it. Obedience to God’s ways of life are lived out through a regenerated soul. The Holy Spirit leads the believer. They can have victory over sins which are destructive. You must understand the salvation message is grace. Jesus took tour sun upon himself. He does not say, prove to me you are worthy before I accept you, he only says believe that I have died for your sin, that’s it. In the Old Testament God told the Jews to follow him. That was the simple message. They did not want that so God gave them rules knowing they could not keep them. That’s the point. Jesus was the sacrificial lamb for you and for me and for any one in the world who will come to him. You were made in the image of God. Look at yourself in the mirror and you will see God’s image. You live in a fallen world and you without Christ are covered in sin. Jesus removes the stain. He washes you white as snow. God bless you you are loved by God so much that he died for you.
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And my question is still the same, 'how do you know or why do you think any of that is true?', because that was 6 minutes of claims, not reasons why those claims of Christianity are true. Also, where in a relationship with a wife or husband is the threat of hell in his metaphor? I admit I'm not familiar with John Lennox's beliefs on hell.
Geoff Cole Its not a threat of Hell, its a granting of a desire. The only people who wind up in Hell are those that really want to be there.
So you are saying that in order for me to not want to be tortured forever, I have to believe Jesus is the son of/the creator of the universe? I don't see the link between those two.
Also, it is scarily similar to an abuser in a relationship saying, 'Well, you ASKED for it!' when the abused doesn't follow the rules exactly. If you didn't want to get hit, you'd have made dinner correctly, right?
"Does the God you don't believe in abuse you?" No, but it bothers me that so many people consider this entity loving and moral based on the writings about it. I would enjoy an answer to my previous question though. Are you saying that in order not to be tortured forever, I have to believe Jesus came back to life with divine power 2000 years ago? Because if you ask me, "Do you want to go to hell and be tortured forever?" my answer is no.
Well that doesn't match what a lot of people have told me, that God doesn't send people to hell, people choose to go there. I also think that while our planet can be pretty awful, there are other parts that are absolutely wonderful, so I wouldn't call Earth hell. But I would like to understand how belief that Jesus came back from the dead leads to forgiveness from God. Wouldn't that mean every Hindu or Muslim person is absolutely condemned, regardless of what kind of person they are?
Thank you for taking the time to write a full reply to my questions, and I apologize if my response goes in several directions as what you wrote spawned several different lines of thought for me.
I absolutely agree one could pull countless examples of human butchery from history books, but I'm not sure I follow to the conclusion that our world is irrevocably broken. Statistically, nearly every measure of human well-being (crime rates, infant mortality, deaths from disease, malnourishment, and access to clean water, etc.) has been improving as time goes on. People are more and more intolerant of slavery, predjudice, and malicious deception. I would never say that those things no longer exist, but on the whole things seem to be improving, not getting worse. I don't know if that trend will continue, obviously, but it seems there are people in every culture and religion working hard to make sure it does. I would speculate that excessive media coverage of terrible events paints a worse picture than reality.
You wrote that not every Hindu or Muslim is automatically condemned, and I know many Christians who would absolutely reject that idea, citing passages like John 14:6. I'd be curious if you could elaborate on that, and I appreciate that you mentioned people who have never heard of Jesus, since those people definitely exist, and people who have been trained into other religions and taught to reject foreign messages. Going off of that, is hell a place of torment? Or obliteration, like they just cease to exist? What happens to those people who never hear the message, like the uncontacted tribe on North Sentinel Island (never interacted with any society except themselves that we know of)?
Last I have to inquire further about sin and punishment. Correct me if I am wrong, but are you saying that all immoral acts are equal? For example, if I lie to a friend and say I am too busy to hang out when I am just tired, it sounds like that action merits the same punishment as those of a serial killer who tortures and murders his victims for pleasure. Does God view those actions equally?
Does the Satanic religion also believe in do unto others as you would want done to you?
Oh well write a paper submit the paper and good luck with your magic
"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son so that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Jesus is the only way to eternal life in heaven. John 14:6
So don't trust in your own goodness to save you. Transfer your trust to the savior and you will receive God's free gift of eternal life. And with His help repent of your sins. However, we do not and cannot earn salvation by our good works, so Jesus paid the fine for our sins for us. God loves you so much and showed that through Jesus Christ! Romans 5:8
Hopefully this inspired and encouraged you today. God bless.
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John Lennox doesn't want to accept the newly acquired growing knowledge and information about the world in which we live because in doing so dismisses a intelligent god designer .
The God answer is for lazy minded biased thinkers as god did it to replace evidential knowledge , yet when you ask a creationist can you then define what is a god, usually you get imaginary nonsense.
it's amazing how someone so trained in science and the scientific method can be so superstitious and can so readily believe in supernatural phenomena.
The reason he believes is because he's so trained in science and the scientific method.
@@petarvasiljevic8764 you're wrong. He believes it because he was trained since infancy and indoctrinated into the Catholic system when he was growing up in a very Catholic Ireland.
@@onsenguy This is false. I don't know much of John Lennox and his childhood, but just because someone is Christian doesn't mean he was trained since infancy and indoctrinated. I and many others are a living proof for that. It isn't hard to conclude that Christianity is true.
@@petarvasiljevic8764 well I know for a fact that John Lennox was raised since childhood as devout Catholic in Ireland. I've looked into it. Also, if those who know science best and know the scientific method best, in other words most elite scientists of the world, why are they statistically less inclined to believe in God than those who are not as trained in science and the scientific method?
@@onsenguy If you're trying to say that these scientists are atheists because science has burried God, you're completely wrong. First of all, they're atheists because they chose to, not because science disproved God in any way. We know for a fact that some of the most influential scientists were theists like Newton, Einstein and Darwin (if I'm correct). Even today there are scientists who are theists.
So, no. Science and scientific method don't disprove God.
On fire!
Suicide bombers "Do unto others..." Yeshua didn't say that. It's treat others as you want to be treated for the the more enlightened religions. Even more advanced "Love others as you want to be loved." The pinnacle, of course, as Christ instructed is "Love others AS I HAVE LOVED YOU!" Peace
No, it is DO. Jesus is not interested in your love without works. He is not interested in your words. Jesus never said "say these words". He did say "follow me". Big diff!!!!
It says "show me your faith without works and I will show you my faith with my works". That's one huge reason I love the KJV. It uses the word CHARITY. Charity is love in action. Saying I love you means nothing if it is not backed up.
And suicide bombers DO NOT do unto others as they would have done unto them. They don't want to be bombed or their loved ones bombed. But they practice the complete opposite.
@@redfaux74 Actually, you are mistaken. Your information is as fake as your name. Suicide bombers hate themselves and want destruction for themselves and thus they "Do unto others..." Yeshua said, "Love others as I have loved you". He is the model. You didn't pass my test so I am blocking you which means I won't see your reply complaining about how I blocked you. Peace out
@@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe - Take your toys and go home them. Here's a Kleenex on your way out.
I guess if they hate themselves they wouldn't want those virgins in heaven. Their sin is self-centeredness, loving themselves more than others. But I don't want to hurt your precious feelings. Thanks for your "test grading" skills. Keep your receipt on that.
John Lennox has to be the greatest waffler of all time. You have to wonder if he were not an Oxford professor of Mathematics whether he would have got the invites to speak that he has. He presents assumptions as evidence and carries on regardless. I have listened to John many times and have never been presented with any demonstrable evidence for his belief in god let alone Christianity.
Lennox is wrong that every religion follows the golden rule. Atheism, Leftism, Islam, and all tribal religions do not. They all follow the "double rule" of tribal morality: do good to those like me. That is, do good to others that are part of my group and condemn outsiders. The Golden rule is uniquely a Christian value and I'm surprised Lennox missed that.
Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is one answer on one question. "Do you believe in god? No? You're atheist"
That's all. That's not a religion.
Leftism isn't religion either. That's political/economical preference.
o wow john made a huge mistake in saying "DO onto other.." this phrase is ONLY found in Christianity.. the others are "DONT do.." there is a big difference.. john is a smart guy cant believe he made this gigantic error.
Yes. Christianity is unique among world religions. And Jesus' statements are without par. John may have misspoken but I think he was referring to the Biblical truth that the Law is written on men's hearts as explained in this article by another John, John Piper: www.desiringgod.org/interviews/how-is-the-law-written-on-every-heart
@King khan Great khan Hi. The verses about doing unto others are found in Luke 6:31, Matthew 22:39-40. It can also be found in Leviticus 19:18. Other verses that are similar are found in James 2:8, Galatians 5:14, Romans 13:8 and 10. Hope that helps!! If you are asking about Law being written on men's hearts, that is found in Romans 2:12-16
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To believe that one's personal soul is going to be rewarded with eternal bliss, while being convinced that other evil souls will suffer for eternity, is the religious version of "survival of the fittest."
I don't agree with that assessment, but I humbly leave you this response. You may agree or not, I don't wish to start an argument. It's just a thought.
All have fallen into sin, none are righteous, not one... We all have broken his law so we all deserve hell and owe a death. Myself assuredly... So it's not that any one soul is better than another, we are all equally condemned, so none should boast. (Even though some do, but that's another conversation)
All that is left is the choice, the choice of faith in God or not. Either you believe in God and love him or you do not. If one doesn't, why on Earth would they want to be with the God they have rejected and in many cases despised for all of eternity? So eternal separation is giving those who do not believe exactly what they desired in life almost as much as it is a punishment for breaking God's law.
& the reason hell is described the way it is, a place of immense suffering, is precisely because it is a place that is completely devoid of God's presence. The definition of eternal separation. It only logically follows that if God is the root of all that is good, as he is described, that such a place would be completely devoid of all that is good. Hence, the descriptors of hell, a place with no pleasure, no joy, no happiness, only pain and suffering.
So it's not survival of the fittest, we all die, and we all either spend eternity with the God we love, or, we spend eternity apart from the God we rejected.
@@jakekemps I suggest that it is only because humans are so harsh and judgmental of each other, that so many are willing to place faith in the existence of a harsh and judge-mental god.
@@jakekemps Thank you for engaging in conversation with me.
If people would believe, as did Stephen Hawking before he died, that the universe in one form or another always existed, no creator involved, and that suffering in all creatures is natural … even if it is just a theory, it's a much better theory than the theories of the infighting theologians
Theologians earned their money by preaching fear of punishment from gods, when it was the disruptive words of the warring theologians that the people really did have a need to fear, as the people were, and still are, forced to be caught up in the religious wars started by the theologians.
From the book Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase & Fable by Ivor H. Evans, first published 1817. Odium theologicum (o di um the o loj ikim) (Lat.). The bitter hatred of rival theologians. No wars so sanguinary as holy wars; no persecutions so relentless as religious persecutions; no hatred so bitter as theological hatred.
He is at a pagan institution to begin with, and all he is saying is that all religion except for Christianity is a religion of works. Christianity is a religion of Divine intervention when it comes to saving grace. We can do nothing unless God first seeks us.
I don't agree with John Lennox, but you got to love him. He has such heart.
It easier for me to love a human than God. I know humans exist. I'm not convinced of the existence of a God. I highly doubt that John Lennox would have married his wife without proof of her existence.
@Johannes Sjolte it is interesting that you have no proof of how the world/universe were made from nothing, that you have no idea of how they were made, and from what, yet you deny a Creator . . .
@@jimmys6566 I don't deny a Creator, I'm just not convinced of the existence of such a being.
@@sortehuse The heavens declare His glory, man. Before creation there was nothing physical, and then there was a universe governed by 6 precise physical/mathematically defined, forces. And you are unconvinced of His presence!
@@jimmys6566 Yes - and nobody else knows what was before the Big Bang, so how do you know?
@@sortehuse incorrect. No-one knows if the idea of a Big Bang is correct; it is just an idea. But we do know from thermodynamic analysis of entropy that there was some kind of beginning and the creator of matter, energy, time and space was not and could not have been material, rather nust have been a spiritual entity
Don't write things such as beast mode
Yes. He certainly went beast mode and displayed the intellectual ability of a non-human animal.
Turn to Jesus
Imho he misses a point. I love my wife but if she turned into an evil person I would cast her out. Similarly faith without action implies a specious faith
On point ☝️
You’re reading way to much into what he said.
These religious videos suggesting the faith guy makes a killer argument for faith are pretty funny. I happy people have faith - but it's just that...faith...
just put it where it belongs - as a personal belief - no evidence.
Faith is the substance of things hoped for.. the evidence of things not seen....
@@Jeanne-oh8kh faith is just fine - so long as we know where it belongs. Debate over this is fed by the unknowable - some believe and some don't...who is right? Not sure I'm capable of answering that but then no one else is either.
When it comes to the free-will of Man unfortunately John falls short of Biblical Truth.
He has to make a mish -mash of John 6 37:44 to make it “fit in “with his philosophy and “theology”
He has a man -centred view of the Bible instead of a God centred view of the Bible I’m sorry to say.
He’s not man centered at all. You completely miss it.
@@jen4um …John Lennox believes we have the free-will to accept or reject Christ . He doesn’t believe regeneration precedes faith .Therefore he has a man- centred view of salvation.
That is beast mode?
RadioactiveSand what do u think is beast mode ?
I would expect great argumentation and clear demonstrations of one's postion, which I don't see here.
RadioactiveSand na you’d rather read the God delusion and take it as serious philosophical insight
'Beast Mode' apparently means 'smug vacuities plus a lot of references to authority figures'. Lennox might be a nice guy(I still haven't made my mind up) but he's just as hobbled by having to defend bullshit as every other religious apologist out there.
The Sprawl so you’re not gunna argue any of his points
John doesn’t know his Bible…
Revelation 22:14 KJV
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Revelation 2:10 KJV
[10] Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Matthew 10:22 KJV
[22] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
You either believe in Yeshua or you are calling him a liar.
Matthew 7:24 KJV
[24] Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And what if I keep cheating on Sally while declaring I have unconditional love for her?
The Islamic view is that God saves people out of His mercy and no one 'earns' paradise. But if people deliberately rebel and transgress, then they are distancing themselves from God.
Drigger95 that is the Islamic god not the god of Christianity, we do not share the same god that is a common misconception!
Actually, the Islamic doctrine of salvation is if your good deeds outweigh your bad deeds -- unless Allah just decides to lay your bad deeds on the backs of Christians. See the Hadith for details.
@@ItsJustAdrean yul! Spot on. As someone who studied islam for 3 years. Muhhumad just heard stories from jews n christians and believed them. He was a copy n paste prophet of a pagan idol deity
Mohammad didn’t even have certainty he would be in Heaven. Islam is a deception.
I have no idea how you guys can convince yourself of things with no proof whatsoever, but I wish I could do the same sometimes
3 Times John Lennox Went Idiot Mode, there fixed the title for ya! No need to thank me.
Ah but the Bible says to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Work out implies it isn't a completed process during our lifetime and if you were already saved there'd be no point and no need for either fear or trembling, certainly not both. We certainly can't be saved only by faith therefore and James chapter 2 makes this clear. Luther omitted this chapter from his Bible, ironically on an authority outside of the Bible even though he believed in sola scriptura.
You are catholic, and i presume this by the vatican flag on your profile pic. How about you explain your following of a mass murderer, stealing, vile, power abusing, occult, corrupt organization wich hides behind the will and word of god to actively lie and steal from people? Why do you permit yourself to be lied to in such manner?
Afonso Silvestre dont forget the idolatry
Sioraf asNaCillini the Bible makes it very clear that you are saved by faith and not works.
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and it is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God. Not by works so that no one can boast" - Ephesians 2:8-9.
What you have failed to realise is that through this life we are supposed to be growing in holiness, resisting temptation and whatever else Satan throws at us.
Only at the return of Jesus will we be glorified. And then at the judgement seat of Christ our works will be judged.
But at no point does the Bible ever say your salvation is dependant on works.
I'd suggest reading your Bible, you clearly haven't understood even the very basics of itm
y'all needa calm down man. Jesus would want us all to respond in love, not sarcastic, passive aggressive replies and comments. Help one another, don't attack each other.
Excellent insight, Jack Plumbridge. Good works and the fruit of the spirit only come from abiding in Christ our savior. John chapter 15 makes that abundantly clear, therefore the idea that we can "grow in our faith through our own good works" is completely untrue. God's glory should shine through us because of the work of the Holy Spirit in us. I need to die to myself in order for this to happen. Not that you didn't already know any of this, just thought I'd elaborate for other viewers. God bless!
This is beast mode? Really? Should exercise caution when building up someone so highly. There are many cliff edges.
So you haven't challenged what he said at all then?
@@dodibenabba1378 ok. I missed them, but you choose just one of the three supposed ‘beast mode’ statements and enlighten me as to what renders it beastly. Then we can talk. Over to you.
@@dodibenabba1378 Did you find them?
Well, yes, the Christian religion is not merit based, it's based on a loving God, (whose love for us is infinite). But the idea that we're saved because Jesus died for our sins, has flaws in it. Did he die for everyone's sins, even non-Christians? Does the concept that God required yet another animal sacrifice, a hold-over concept from throwing the vestal virgin into the volcano (Yahweh started out as a volcano, btw), comport with the way Jesus depicted him?
Sorry, but no, God required no such thing. That was Paul's biggest brain-fart. God loves us of his own free will (I know, I've felt it!). It's part of that not being merit-based. Jesus died in order to demonstrate the resurrection, to make good on his promise of eternal life.
Jesus taught salvation through faith in our Divine Father-friend and acceptance of sonship with him. We are to have faith that our indwelling Father fragment, known as a Thought Adjuster, will successfully guide us in the paths to perfection.
apparently "beast mode" still isn't enough to demonstrate his god.🤣
Jesus started one church and said it would last forever.
The Roman Catholic Church
Understandable but when the church begins to go against the Bible and change certain things it gets hard to agree with them.
It's pagan Roman Catholic Church it isn't a church of God
@@godisgood6521 they called Jesus
“The prince of demons”
So thanks for calling his church such
@@PInk77W1 Hmmmm your welcome but slowly by slowly you'll get to see reality
@@godisgood6521 you’re not your
Fascinating! Complete nonsense as usual. Lol
There is nothing about Lennox that is beast mode. He's a deluded poor thinker.
You're desperate calling a respected professor a deluded poor thinker, where do you lecture by the way?
@@dodibenabba1378
You don't need to lecture to be a clear thinker. I'm a clear thinker with respect to evaluating evidence for the existence of a god. Lennox clearly isn't. I'll be happy to defer to him with regards to Mathematics.
Possessed by the devil? Because only a nice friendly face can make the god story sound positive