The Italian 47mm tank gun could deal with any British tank except for Mathilda. It wasn't that big of an issue because Mathilda usually broke down before reaching the battlefield.
In 1940, that 47mm was pretty top tier for tank mounted guns, the problem was that they were forced to use it in 1942/43 when they were up against the next generation of allied kit. I should imagine it travelled with 2 trucks and 12 crew, 2 in the Semovente, 2 driving the ammo truck and the rest in their own truck. I'd expect that part of the complement would have been an AA machinegun.
The Italian Army was truly and in every way the Dreamcast of WW2, modern and groundbreaking for a brief sweet moment in time; only to get body slammed by the next generation that took a single massive leap in technology.
From profile it looks like smaller version of Soviet 203mm gun "Pion". Otherwise Germans had 150mm self propelled howitzers "Brummbar" and probably did not look for even bigger and heavier Italian weapon.
I recently built a resin kit of the Semovente da 90/53. The hull is over extended with the 90 mm gun. This gun would be completely overpowering for the frame.
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MX10 Barako (male hog) and MX8 Kalakian (male water buffalo) were intersting but ultimately just prototypes. If I remember correctly, I read n a MaxDefense post that these were a general's pet project that did not progress.
They won't be interested, because it's an artillery system. Most War of Tanks players don't like artillery, because they don't realise how effective it is.
I’m trying to imagine what 1970’s pencil pushing U.S. Army administrative boob associated with the Fort Sill Artillery Museum was thinking when he decided to have the irreplaceable tracks taken off this historic World War Two Fighting TRACKED Vehicle thereby promptly and permanently losing them for all time 🙄.
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@@TanksEncyclopediaYT Pretty sure HOI4 has this as a model for Italy in the axis armor pack dlc. Always thought it looked super wack but super intriguing
When I play the Axis side in North Africa in the PS1 game Panzer General, I would play around with buying a crap load of the 75mm tanks for next to nothing (11 units like the price of a Panzer I). Thanks for the video.
@@jimjones1130 the Germans didn't seem to think they were bad. They copied some (TDs) and kept the ones they captured after Italy switched sides. Early war Italian tanks were better than the British stuff in the desert. They fell behind in late 1942. For what the Italian tanks were designed for (mountains) they were very good all the way through.
I would say yes because the suspension was obsolete by the beginning of the war so it would have been natural for a upgrade along with the gun being a modernized WW1 piece. A new design that had better protection, mobility and speed would be a great start along with a quicker firing rate.
makes u wonder they was using engines modified chassis and armament already available and at least 2 doozen vehicles planned makes me think there was more then one produced and explain the 2 different storys as well as being moved from italy wouldnt make sense unless u had a spare vehicle as self propelled artillery was always being requested over fire support communication.
Probably this one… de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerhaubitze_Wespe Check out this list for *Selbstfahrlafette* … de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Kettenfahrzeugen_der_Wehrmacht#Panzerartillerie
The Italians were anticipating a colonial war like in Ethiopia not having to fight first world militaries, this didn't quite pan out and the rest is history!
1 round per minute? That doesn't make for a very effective barrage. No protection for the gun crew because of its long range. So, it's always fired at max range? What if a target happens to be closer? What if the enemy is being a brat and doesn't follow your house rules, and decides to move a battery closer to you and shoot back? Trust the US Army to lose a set of tank treads. "Hey Frank, where's those several hundred pounds of tank treads that 4 of us spent an hour removing?" "I thought I set them over there on the desk. Did somebody move them?"
You can't really fit more protection on such a vehicle. War is a numbers game. Economy above crew safety. Just because the crew would like a bit more protection doesn't mean it's wise to give them that.
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Italian self propelled guns are underrated. The reputations of their tanks overshadow them
Some channel were calling the semoventi as the pasta stugs.
The Italian 47mm tank gun could deal with any British tank except for Mathilda. It wasn't that big of an issue because Mathilda usually broke down before reaching the battlefield.
In 1940, that 47mm was pretty top tier for tank mounted guns, the problem was that they were forced to use it in 1942/43 when they were up against the next generation of allied kit. I should imagine it travelled with 2 trucks and 12 crew, 2 in the Semovente, 2 driving the ammo truck and the rest in their own truck. I'd expect that part of the complement would have been an AA machinegun.
Wasn't the 47mm gun an Austrian design called the Bowler gun?
@@truetoffee8684 correct but it was Böhler
@@mondriaa auto correct!!!
Yeah the gun was very top dog at the time of introduction, along with the french 47mm being some of the best
The Italian Army was truly and in every way the Dreamcast of WW2, modern and groundbreaking for a brief sweet moment in time; only to get body slammed by the next generation that took a single massive leap in technology.
From profile it looks like smaller version of Soviet 203mm gun "Pion". Otherwise Germans had 150mm self propelled howitzers "Brummbar" and probably did not look for even bigger and heavier Italian weapon.
the Brummbar had different role and the gun a shorter range, this is more like the Hummel
@@mondriaa Thanks, you are correct.
Existential conflict with Brian on the Duran..
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Gaijin and Wargaming taking notes for their next premium vehicle.
Probably a better idea than adding another Soviet object 12345 from secret documents they found in Putin's dumpsters
That obsolete suspension is actually the same sort of volute spring suspension that Shermans and other American tracked vehicles of the conflict had.
I recently built a resin kit of the Semovente da 90/53. The hull is over extended with the 90 mm gun. This gun would be completely overpowering for the frame.
It's quite rare to mention Philippines like GKN Simba usually British made APC or such rare Philippine made vehicles and APC.
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MX10 Barako (male hog) and MX8 Kalakian (male water buffalo) were intersting but ultimately just prototypes. If I remember correctly, I read n a MaxDefense post that these were a general's pet project that did not progress.
@@shaider1982 I cannot blame bureaucracy for this project same as Kalakian project
The M107 175mm spg looks very similar and it's stat's pretty close as well🤔
nah more closer to russian spa like 2s7 pion
Hey wargaming, that's an Italian tank, you don't need to put fake tanks in the game anymore
They won't be interested, because it's an artillery system. Most War of Tanks players don't like artillery, because they don't realise how effective it is.
Said by no WoT dev ,ever.
@@ianlarge9016 I bet War Thunder would.
@@ianlarge9016 if you think weegee doesn't want to sell you something because the players don't want it, you'll be in for a bad time ._.
Bruh arty gang for life I love italy
Nice video. This self propelled gun had a smaller border, with 90mm cannon who was efficiently used by Italy in Russia, North Africa and Sicily.
I’m trying to imagine what 1970’s pencil pushing U.S. Army administrative boob associated with the Fort Sill Artillery Museum was thinking when he decided to have the irreplaceable tracks taken off this historic World War Two Fighting TRACKED Vehicle thereby promptly and permanently losing them for all time 🙄.
I wonder if those tracks are still coiled up on pallets in a warehouse somewhere to this very day.
Could you do the T-150 heavy tank some time?
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We have an article on it but no video
They have an article on the tank.
out of all the game to take footage from it's RUSE? I guess it's ass obscure now as the tank.
For the life of us, we couldn't find a game with this thing in it!
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT yeah I've noticed, wild
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT Pretty sure HOI4 has this as a model for Italy in the axis armor pack dlc. Always thought it looked super wack but super intriguing
@@dynamo8846 Not exactly the kind of game we can use for background footage though, right?
Bro I loved RUSE back in the day lol. I can't believe it!!!
Awesome war time footage ! Super job all way round guys.
Could you do a video on the M48 Patton with a Leopard 2 turret?
A what with a what now?
Edit: Im now pretty sure that that wasnt a real thing, only for transporting the turret
A what?
What a surprise, the Italians actually built something that actually could have helped in the war after all, but too late like the Germans.
When I play the Axis side in North Africa in the PS1 game Panzer General, I would play around with buying a crap load of the 75mm tanks for next to nothing (11 units like the price of a Panzer I). Thanks for the video.
Italy go Plunk Plunk
Biggest problem for Italy was lack of face hardening their armour. The designs were good in most cases.
Lol no
@@jimjones1130 the Germans didn't seem to think they were bad. They copied some (TDs) and kept the ones they captured after Italy switched sides. Early war Italian tanks were better than the British stuff in the desert. They fell behind in late 1942. For what the Italian tanks were designed for (mountains) they were very good all the way through.
I saw this thing at APG when I was 11 years old. So cool.
Hell of a name 😃 That's why they just yelled "incoming" when it made rain, not enough time to say it proper.
Photographed this vehicle in color at APG back in he early '90s, I think. Got a nice product shot 3/4 front view.
Semovente M43: Why you break my legs, AMERICA??
I would say yes because the suspension was obsolete by the beginning of the war so it would have been natural for a upgrade along with the gun being a modernized WW1 piece. A new design that had better protection, mobility and speed would be a great start along with a quicker firing rate.
My grandfather was a member crew of the towed cannon.
Order one these bad boys at starbucks
Soooo... the italian version of the self propelled 155mm Long Tom...
Semovent...acion intensifies
0:49 That name! You must be Italian to be able to say that.
This big boy could be fire without the rear support in a chaotic situation? Like if a enemy tank appears in his front
I like the use of RUSE gameplay.
add warthunder
makes u wonder they was using engines modified chassis and armament already available and at least 2 doozen vehicles planned makes me think there was more then one produced and explain the 2 different storys as well as being moved from italy wouldnt make sense unless u had a spare vehicle as self propelled artillery was always being requested over fire support communication.
Bigger caliber is better.
At 11:59min, what tank is between the Möbelwagen and the Nashorn ? Doesn´t look like a Hummel or Heuschrecke. Looks like a 10.5 on a Pz3/4 chassis.
Probably this one…
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerhaubitze_Wespe
Check out this list for *Selbstfahrlafette* …
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Kettenfahrzeugen_der_Wehrmacht#Panzerartillerie
I could see that in a wot blitzs game but obviously as a competitor to the Grille 15.
Italian armored vehicles each took out one enemy tank shell.
From what game is the footage at 2:13
The 47 mm gun was a very good gun. The narrator should know better.
It's always the same thing with Italy... They think up something cool, and produce 17 of them and call it a day.
The Italians were anticipating a colonial war like in Ethiopia not having to fight first world militaries, this didn't quite pan out and the rest is history!
They could have handled Britain with German help. What they did not anticipate was the USA joining and Germany invading the USSR.
1 round per minute? That doesn't make for a very effective barrage.
No protection for the gun crew because of its long range. So, it's always fired at max range? What if a target happens to be closer? What if the enemy is being a brat and doesn't follow your house rules, and decides to move a battery closer to you and shoot back?
Trust the US Army to lose a set of tank treads. "Hey Frank, where's those several hundred pounds of tank treads that 4 of us spent an hour removing?"
"I thought I set them over there on the desk. Did somebody move them?"
You can't really fit more protection on such a vehicle. War is a numbers game. Economy above crew safety. Just because the crew would like a bit more protection doesn't mean it's wise to give them that.