It's also, attempt to bully. He thinks his arrogance is power and he tries to club others with it. But it is his weakness, and he destroys himself. He should be grateful that the other man is merciful and kind as his intent is to give and heal..
@@Yugi601 Noted bro...ur the first person with some sense..other comments aka trumpers are hyprocrites..but when their god = trump speaks loudly...it must be the truth then...hahahha...
@@Yugi601ironically, it's normally the people frustrating people with their ignorance that can keep their composure. It's that ignorance that allows them to maintain the fascade of "professionalism".
@@turkihazemwe have no problems with that , for it is the truth, the Norm of reality . isn't that interesting, a crucified God ? do you think mankind could invent such a thing with that much details , it seems to be confusing on every level , how is that possible ?
@@turkihazem Their God didn’t die. They believe God is three persons. That’s who God is yet only one person of the Trinity died. 1/3 of God died and his human nature also died so two natures died on the cross. As Cuckoo as Cocoa Puffs
@@CommonSenseChristianityT So the second person in the trinity is not immortal? How is he co equal to the father if one of them mortal and the other is immortal Thank you for disproving the trinity
Because his name is Muhammad hijab. Very Muslim sounding. The prophet and the head covering. Imagine a Jew named Judah yamaka. You’d have to assume that guy knew a thing or two.
The Trinity is a damnable Pagan Heresy that’ll see you burn in Hell. “Hear O Israel; The (singular) Lord (singular) thy God (singular) is One (singular) Lord. (singular)” It isn’t rocket science Einstein.
@@kennyevans6197 His family literally owns a scam fake college that targets Muslims trying to move to the UK. Normally, I would agree with you, that an "accredited" degree is at least meaningful..... but not if Hijab literally makes fake degrees as a family business! They stole the "Cambridge" logos and name, they are literal scammers, I wish I was joking! Look up "Cambridge Training College Britain", this is his family business. It is a literal scam college that specifically targets foreign Muslims trying to improve their lives, only to be scammed by the Hijabs.
Hijab... *Who is Powerful ? Triune God - God the Father, The Creator, God the Son, the redeemer (from our sins) and God the Holy Spirit The Sanctifier* or Man made Allah and His baqri as the redeemer to redeem from mankind sins, specially when comes to mass violences, murders,...? Muslims got it right ? or still want to follow single headed dictator false god and not the actual Creator The Father / Redeemer The Son/ Sanctifier The Holy Spirit, The Triune God ? Who calls you His Children and not slaves, choice is yours!!!
@@faizanfarooqui5226 Mohammed is so intellectually weak, that he has to resort to screaming, and sweating because of how angry he gets at his own weakness😂😂
The Trinity is a damnable Pagan Heresy that’ll see you burn in Hell. “Hear O Israel; The (singular) Lord (singular) thy God (singular) is One (singular) Lord. (singular)” It isn’t rocket science Einstein.
@@Tetrus120 Traditionally, Islam required a lot of "blind following", but the Internet allows Muslims to look things up for them selfs, and also TRANSLATE things properly, without bias or [added words]. Idk if you are muslim or not, but if you are, then you know that all Imams say "If you dont know fluent arabic, you cant read the quran, it is impossible to translate!"... which is a load of bologna, because every language can be translated. If a language cant be translated, it simply isn't a language, its gibberish, and surely the Quran is not gibberish lol. Not to mention, if it is actually impossible to translate into a different language on paper, then it is also impossible for someone to translate it verbally. If you cant translate the writing, then surely you cant translate it verbally. It does not make sense for something to be untranslatable on paper but not verbally. So, why are Imams so adamant about NOT reading the quran? Seems strange, especially if you are christian, because every single christian church service includes the pastor telling the crowd "read your bible!" at least 10 times each Sunday, over and over again. Going to church is only half the work, you need to read your bible! But not muslims, they are told to NEVER read it! Just listen to your Imams, trust us bro! All you have to do is pray 5 times a day and never question your Imam. If you want to know WHY they dont like muslims reading their own Quran, all you have to do is read the Quran.... Its very obvious when you read it! Because its a horribly violent book, encouraging the worst things humanity has to offer. No one wants to be a muslim after reading it, unless they are a fan of owning $3x slaves or being a PDF file. Theres also a ridiculous amount of continuity errors and contradictions. Here are a couple verses you can look up, if you are curious about the violent parts 2: 191 (drive out the non believers, allowing disobedience is worse than murder) 4: 34 (its okay to beat your wifes, and not only is it okay, but you should strike them to PREVENT disobedience, not just as punishment) 23: 1-6 (You are allowed to R word your female slaves) 98: 6 (christians and jews are the worst of creatures) Theres also parts that say you must implement apartheid against Christians and jews, making them "dhimmis", and then they must pay the "jizya tax" or be killed. Muhhamad married a 6 year old. Black slaves are half the price of non black slaves (this is Sahih Muslim 1602, not Quran, but my point still stands) And thats just a couple!
Hijab failed to demonstrate incoherence, but instead emphasized disagreement among Christians, which was not relevant to the topic of the debate. Rhetorically it can appear strong to accuse WLC of "rejecting the majority of Christianity", but the logical coherence of the Trinity does not stand or fall with popularity. An incorrect understanding may well be incoherent, but again this does not demonstrate that the Trinity itself is incoherent, even if it is a popular misunderstanding, because the incoherence is introduced by a mistaken definition. WLC demonstrated that there are plausible answers to all of the questions that Hijab raised, and whether Hijab is personally convinced of those does not affect whether the Trinity is logically coherent. Far from WLC needing to prove that the answers he gave to Hijab are necessarily true as a condition for demonstrating coherence, it was Hijab's job to demonstrate why his answers are necessarily impossible, which Hijab failed to do. As such the plausibility of WLC's answers stands and is enough to demonstrate that the Trinity is in fact logically coherent.
Thanks for the positive feedback guys :) Also, remember that Islam is self refuting because of the Islamic Dilemma. So whatever superficial appeal it may have when they are on the offense, they cannot actually defend their religion. Perhaps that's why Islam's philosophy has always been the best defense is offense (often in very literal and physical ways).
He can't. He's an emotional egoic idiot who's not here to listen but to promote his Islam to non-muslims and argue about it. He views those who debate him as his enemies. You can see the disrespect he shows to everyone who disagrees with him.
The amount of tolerance that Lane shows towards Hijab's misguided methods of discussing theology is truly devine. God bless you William Lane and I am hoping Hijab can eventually speak with deeper sense of reason with less personal attacks.
Hey we owe Hijab a lot. He got a Quran scholar Yasir Qadhi to admit on social media that the Quran has holes in it. He destroyed the Islamic stance of perfect preservation of Quran. His friend Ali destroyed the scientific miracle claims in the Quran. I do pray Hijab comes to a saving faith in the biblical Christ.
Yasir qadhi isn't even a student of knowledge, calling him scholar against those like shaykh uthaymeen and binbaz who have been grand muftis and supervised the best Islamic universities, Yasir qadhi is a deviant jahil th-cam.com/users/liveESq18-74aW0?si=ejvhx12Df9IIl6Tz If u think this guy is our scholar lol, we don't even consider him a missionary or speaker
Ignatius (37-107 AD) - "... the *Eternal, Invisible,* who for our sake became visible; our GOD, Jesus the Christ." ... (and many more) Hijab should really not be quoting church fathers and early Christians...
@@CommonSenseChristianityTif you want common sense, then you should consider the testimony of the earliest Christians, such as the author quoted above
Dr Craig: gracious, poignant, humble, asserting his intellectual dominance. Hijab: incoherent arguments, making grand, baseless, and absurd claims. Doesn’t even understand his ignorance on most of Dr Craigs points.
Education helps! There is no 1 to 1 example of the Divine Trinity in Creation! Because everything that is in creation cannot be compared with Allah! Just as you can't give an example in creation of what Allah is one means!
Bruh, this was as bad as I thought it was going to be. Mohammad Hijab is an utter joke, and the fact that he even got a stage with Dr. Craig is a little disappointing. Hijab is BY FAR THE WORST opponent Dr. Craig has ever faced, and that’s saying something. Literally could have had Dr. Craig have a debate with Elmo and got a better discussion out of it.
@@Honourkingdomm I am grateful Dr. Craig appealed to Muslims for the truth of Jesus Christ, and that all people should freely choose to follow him. I respect his closing statements most of all.
@@Honourkingdomm Mohammed was straight up arguing that its a contradiction to say that the son and the father can't disagree with each other, this just shows how intellectually weak he is 😂 Heres an easy example, lets say 2 people with perfect knowledge and perfect reason, both gets asked the same question, what is 2+2? Both will answer 4 and will NEVER disagree and can never disagree per definition Mohammed thinks this is a contradiction, which shows how utterly weak he is intellectually. No Mohammed, the reason why they would never disagree is because since they are perfect in knowledge and perfect in reason, it is for Mohammed to explain why and how they COULD ever disagree? Why would they disagree that 2+2 = 4? HOW could they every disagree that 2+2 = 4? Mohammed doesn't even understand that if they were to be able to disagree it would be a logical contradiction lol
@@HarpreetSingh-kj8ro WLC did exactly as good as he had to do, and that is because Mohammad didn’t understand enough to move the conversation forward. WLC made a case, and it was never refuted. That’s the only reason we didn’t get more from Dr. Craig.
Yeah craig dismantle hijab by saying that a christian god is like a three headed dog. And the irony is u are supporting craig and agree with his trinity analogy.
@@zohaibali7837It's called an analogy. If you actually read what Jesus said instead of just what someone 600 years later said about Him, you'd see Jesus used analogies and parables all the time.
@@James-ny2xl okay so did jesus called himself holyspirit and father a three headed dog. I think not. Using analogies and calling ur god a dog. Even jesus would have taken a rain check on that
“Thrived by the sword” Luke 19:27 But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” (About infidel) Matthew 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword".
To be fair : Hijab did A lot of strawman, gish gallop, false dichotomy, and false equivocation. WLC, really didn't have to do much. Hijab proved he was an intellectual Idot. Lastly, I stated it before hand. Hajib underestimated WLC and he overestimated his self. Hijab narrcism is on a level beyound crazy. He is a literal nobody telling one of the greatest philosperies of our time that he doesn't know what he is talking about. Think about that.
I didn't watch this, but he basically turns into a schoolyard bully as soon as he's debating muslims. He tried to keep up a pretence of maturity with Jordan Peterson, but yeah
@@deadprivacy You're coping big time. Keep believing a self refuting doctrine thatbrequires you to be a 'muh intellectual' to understand. Complete cope.
Multiple non-sequiters and misrepresented views presented by Hijab, well done Dr. Craig. Arguments from emotion and ignorance have no place in philosophy.
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@@jooo7011 Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
I know this is a Christian channel, so a lot of the comments are against Mohammad Hijab. However, I encourage all to actually think and ponder over the arguments made in the actual debate rather than just talking about the volume of one’s voice or calling names. ❤
Muhammad Hijab debated like a 4th grader giving a book report on a book he didn't read. He was not prepared for Craig, and Craig wasn't even going all in.
@@feds9602 decimated his braincells perhaps. Hijab thought the debate was about if WLC was a heretic, but that's not what it was about, but I know somebody like you would be impressed by Hijab's performance.
Very Simple! Single heades god like allah, anyone can imagine or create... including counterfeited single book - quran, specially by elite, communists, for divide and rule
Hijab for half the debate: I don't understand why my interlocutor won't respond to the accusation I've decided is the new topic of the debate, and I'm going to keep repeating myself until time runs out.
@@owlintrenchcoat So true. Hijab didn't offer one argument without trying to also attack Craig's orthodoxy. The few arguments he scattered in there were really, really weak. Basically just saying that you don't have a perfect physical analogy, so you're wrong, while the Quran is full of imperfect analogies about Allah. God is totally above, so of course no analogy of temporary, physical thing will perfectly capture the eternal essence of God. Whether or not we have a good analogy for something says nothing about whether it is coherent.
@@suelenq1708 I never raid Craig didn't also debate poorly at times. I said that, yes, Hijab abandoned the idea of attacking the consistency of the doctrine to focus instead on whether Craig's a heretic or not.
@@OneGodManyProphets Says the person who has likely never read anything in 2000 years of Christian Theology. Laughable. Stupid analogy of a third grader 🤡
The Trinity is a damnable Pagan Heresy that’ll see you burn in Hell. “Hear O Israel; The (singular) Lord (singular) thy God (singular) is One (singular) Lord. (singular)” It isn’t rocket science Einstein.
ADD version: Mo says that the trinity is false because William Lane Craig has views different from most Christians about the emanation of the son and the proceeding of the spirit. Craig defends his views and then says, "this isn't 'really relevant to whether the trinity is logically incoherent or not." This is correct. WLC's views on emanation or proceeding don't really matter for whether the trinity is logically possible. Mo next says how can multiple persons be involved in creation? Craig says, "it's just causal overdetermination, like two matches lighting the same candle simultaneously." Mohammed rejects the existence of this category by citing a bunch of examples where causal overdetermination is not present. That's it!
Do you also affirm Dr Craig's understanding of the Trinity which goes against 99% of all Christians? If so, why did it take 17 centuries for people to truely understand God in Christianity?
Love the way WLC shared his closing statement!! He never got into a debate to prove his eloquence but always to witness the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ! A Muslim who will read will no longer remain a Muslim!
If a Muslim is doomed to hell for not believing in the trinity, then you must also believe Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Noah and Jacob are all doomed to hell. Even Jesus too according to the bible where he says "My Father is greater than I".
@@therealshadow8811 If they lived before Jesus, that means Jesus is not their creator so Jesus is not God. Jesus came after because he was created by God. He was created by the word of God miraculously without a father just like Adam was created without parents - Allah said "Be" and it was.
I think Hijab understood the Trinity more than Dr Craig. Were you convinced by Dr Craig's version of the Trinity? Do you also reject the begotten Son doctrine?
I almost agreed but if you have seen Hijab debate before you will know this works well for him rambling and insulting people. With time he was pinned down.
@@leechrec he is dangerous, but I wouldn't say one of the most dangerous out there as there are some capable of far more harm than he is. He is, however, definitely one of the most pathetic.
Dr. Craig addressing Muslims and inviting them to consider Christ instead of repeating himself was awesome. Hijab calls it “running” cuz he can’t recognize what it really is…
Dr. Craig basically reftued all mainstream christian belief in the first 20 minutes. You are coping after he threw you and all your church fathers under the bus.
If you want to understand who won and who lost this debate, look no further than the closing statements. WLC abandoned the entire debate topic which he spent an hour trying to defend and instead began evangelising as a damage control measure because he understood better than anyone that his inability to defend the trinity will irreversibly damage the faith of Christians. Him talking to Muslims in his closing statement was actually little more than a desperate plea to Christian viewers to keep the faith in the face of glaring incoherence. I don't understand how these people can, in any way, claim victory. Terribly sad state of affairs for the Christians. The purity of their monotheistic beliefs has been corrupted by satan himself.
@@unicornowner9993 No, Dr. Craig does this in all his debates. It is a prepared statement. He didn't choose to abandon the topic but instead rightly understood that the point of even having the debate is draw people to faith in Jesus Christ.
@@unicornowner9993 yeah yeah yeah.. and Hijab didn’t make a plea to Christian’s as he closed either. Smh… if you guys don’t have twisted standards you’d have none at all. Besides, we’re still waiting for one of your guys to do a debate with Islam as the topic..
@@sa-a-9157he raised that topic to show why the Muslims making such arguments against Trinity when the Muslims have similar issues with the tawhid. Muslims must understand that early Christian believed that Jesus was God
The true Faith is not the one that requires two doctorates in philosophy to understand it. "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.'” Matthew 19:13-14
If God is truly merciful, and Christianity is truly the religion of God, then parents should be able to explain it with ease to their children so their children may accept it as logical and then build a strong relationship with their lord from a young age. If a religion is truly from God, it has to be able to intellectually the farmer as much as the philosopher.
just because he has a differing view on the trinity then most christian’s doesn’t mean the trinity is false, that’s an obvious fallacy that should have been stomped out the minute hijab said it. ridiculous performance
No it means, all of traditional Christianity, literally 99.999% of all Christians follow a false understanding. Only about 10 people in the world follow true Christianity, that's if you think Craig's position is tenable.
Yes, when trying to comprehend God, I’m sure different views can come up. Some make sense more than others… If God was completely and easily comprehensible, he wouldn’t be all that great would he?
I’ve never heard a single muslim theologian argue for their faith in a convincing way. They always end up sounding like they don’t truly believe in what they’re saying
Indeed, one appears like a subdued eunuch, while the other resembles a jealous and enraged dog. This is great stuff, better than professional wrestling promos
In the first 15 minutes he exposed Dr. Craigs lack of knowledge in Islam and the fact that he does not believe in the trinity as the majority of Christians believe in stop the cope bro 😂
Mr. Hijab’s continuous attribution of human tendencies to God was the major miscommunication in this discussion. The position that “because physical things cannot coexist and be 100% responsible for the creation of the same thing” is equating God to humanity which is obviously an unresonable connection to make, no matter which side of this debate you’re on.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - There is a direct correlation between the Trinity (God), the incarnation (God’s Word) and human beings (God’s image). To understand this correlation we need to understand the 3-in-1 mystery. The evidence is all around us. There’s 3 steps to making a meal is made there are three parts: the recipe, the ingredients, and the preparation. There are 3 branches of government: the legislative branch (to make law); the executive branch (to enforce law); and the judicial branch (to interpret the spirit of the law). There are 3 types of knowledge; what you know is your experience; what you think is your reasoning; and what you believe is your intuition. There are 3 kinds of modesty: being chaste; being humble, in speech; and being shy, in action. There are 3 sources of people: the world (what you hear 🙉); the flesh (what you see 🙈); and Satan (what you speak 🙊). There are three parts to TIME and CHANGE: the past, what something was; the present, what something is; and the future, what something will be (see Revelation 1:8). These are just some of the fingerprints of the Trinity. The Formula for the Creative Process reveals the details of the 3-in-1 mystery. First, is the mental idea; second, is the physical material; third is the spiritual action of bringing materials together to make something new. These mental, physical and spiritual realms of existence (see John 3:6) are found in making a meal 🍽️ (recipe, ingredients, and process or preparation). All of these things in the Creative Process is evidence or fingerprints of the Trinity. The Christian religion is the only one that has revealed these mysteries demonstrating the correlation between God, God’s Word, and God’s image.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - Human beings are the only creatures God has made with a mind, body, and soul. We are created in the image of the Holy Trinity (see Genesis 1:26). Essence of people: Mind + body + soul = 3 distinct parts. Existence of people: Human x living x being = 1 person. Essence of God: Father + Son + Holy Ghost = 3 Persons. Existence of God: All-knowing x all-powerful x ever-present = 1 God.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - HYPOSTATIC UNION: It is a great mystery and if a soul seeks the truth they’ll find it. The answer to the question is the hypostatic union. This means the joining of Christ’s divine nature to his human nature. What are these? Human essence: mind, body, soul. Human existence: human, living, being. Divine essence: all knowing, all powerful, ever present. Divine existence: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. We are created in the image of the Trinity (read Genesis 1:26). Human beings are the only creatures God has made with a mind, body and soul. Spirits don’t have a body, plants 🌱 and animals 🦈don’t have a mind. The scriptural “type” of incarnation is the objects in the Ark: the Ten Commandments, the manna and the staff of Aaron represented the mind, body and soul of Jesus in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary. This shows the harmony between the Trinity (God), the Incarnation God’s Word) and human beings (God’s image).
Amen 🙏🏽 . One day Muslims, Jews and the whole world 🌍 will become Christian. However, there’s going to be a terrible chastisement first. Pray 🙏🏽 and repent.
@@sabrisabtu2214 - Human beings are the only creatures God has made with a mind, body, and soul. We are created in the image of the Holy Trinity (see Genesis 1:26). The mathematical equation for this 3-in-1 mystery goes like this: Essence of people: Mind + body + soul = 3 distinct parts. Existence of people: Human x living x being = 1 person. Essence of God: Father + Son + Holy Ghost = 3 Persons. Existence of God: All-knowing x all-powerful x ever-present = 1 God.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - it’s scattered throughout like a million piece puzzle 🧩. Many Christians don’t recognize them when they read it. You seem humble enough with a desire for the truth. It is a great mystery and if a soul seeks the truth they’ll find it. The answer to the question is the hypostatic union. This means the joining of Christ’s divine nature to his human nature. What are these? Human essence: mind, body, soul. Human existence: human, living, being. Divine essence: all knowing, all powerful, ever present. Divine existence: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. We are created in the image of the Trinity (read Genesis 1:26). Please pray 🙏🏽 that I get my two manuscripts published. The first is The Fingerprints and Signature of God: Recognizing the Trinity through the Formula for the Creative Process. It reveals the evidence of the Trinity everyone sees every day but doesn’t recognize. It also reveals the correlation between the Trinity (God), the Incarnation (God’s Word), and human beings (God’s image and signature).
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
Listen to your prophet that said you have to believe in the injeel, the holy book that jews and christians posessed AT THE TIME OF MOHAMMAD.Which we all knos is the same bible we have today because its the same one that was found in numerous places (dead sea scrolls etc.,)
Hijab on "people knowing who was better" (talking about himself) ... is like Orwellian (1984) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - George Orwell, 1984
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@@3339ty Because our God is personal God (i.e. He is not a distant God like Allah) wants relationship with us because He loves us (humans) and that's why He wanted us to be in His likeness. And this is not an assumption, He told us million times over.
@@MultiSky7 The most logical analogy for Christian God is a three-headed dog it seems , since no Christian has uttered a word againsy it. I will use it from now on.
@@samupon_a_star8258 Same can be said about this comment section, do you see anyone assessing the debate fairly without going to the adhominems? i only see 1 out of 1000 comments. The other 999 comments are just insults to muslims, hijab and islam. But hey, the muslims are lead by deception right, and you guys are lead by the truth. Bravo
@@samupon_a_star8258bruhhhhh It's u ppl in deception, it's clear as daylight that trinity is polytheism believing in 3 gods and believing that god is a man As in old testament clearly states in *Christianity debunked* Numbers 23:19 King James Version (KJV) God is not a man, that he should lie; Neither the son of man, that he should repent: Hath he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
That is just how most Muslims on the internet are. It's a hive-mind mentality. Most likely, just as with Hijab, people with cognitive dissonance or ignorance can't comprehend the points Dr. Craig is making. I mean, Hijab didn't even understand what causal overdetermination means, and his presupposed rejection of it was the central foundation of his argument. It's an insult to book such a well-polished thinker like Craig with Hijab, an online influencer.
not even mohammad or even allah could explain tawheed. Islam is truly beyond theologically flawed ( philosophically, scientifically, historically and metaphysically) no matter how you slice the cake, it comes out flawed.
Allah is the one who created you, and he provided for you, and then to him we all return soon, so make sure to do good deeds and worship Allah alone and dont ascribe partners to Allah
@WeWillAllReturnToAllah wow u made so much sense, I got to take my shahada now🥴 even the concept of shahada is illogical and moronic..Quran says to not ascribe partners yet yall literally say a moronic proclamation of faith in order to be muslim (which proclaims mohammad along side allah)😒 Also let me ask, how many halal deeds do you have, are you keeping count😭 you do realize that in your own scripture it says all Muslims will be going to hell since noone can outweigh bad deeds, no matter your good deeds. What's hilarious is according to your scriptures no matter how many horrible deeds a muslim did allah still saves you by replacing you with a jew, christian or atheist in your place. How ironic is it that yall have a problem with jesus who is (God in flesh) dying for everyone's sin but yet in your own theology we non-Muslims are your saviors😭(don't you just love ur allahs mercy) It makes you wonder if everyone were to turn muslim then how the heck would allah replace Muslims in hell with😭 it can't get any more moronic then that.
As a Christian Im very thankful to mimi hijab he helped alot of muslims leave islam and accept Christ by his "wonderful" behaviour and debating style 😎🙏..
Name on Muslim who left Islam and joined Christianity due to MH? You lier. If you are truthful, prove trinity from Old Testament, new testament is full of fabrication
@@issaway and they all contact you? 😂 I have seen plenty of accounts claiming to be “oppressed Iranian” woman but once you open the profile it’s old Bollywood songs in the playlist. Paajeet need to build toilets instead of wasting time on this
If repeatedly shouting "GOD IS ONE" in your ear with a megaphone would do the trick, brother, I would be willing to do it. May God guide you and all of us.
Did Hijab even present an argument? Or did he just continuously state that Dr Craig's views are "untenable" and that "a child could debunk them" over and over again, without he himself trying to do so?
Lol the Dr was distancing himself from Trinity whenever Hijab pressed him. He even denied tomas aquanes's view of Trinitarianism which is followed by almost all Christians today
Note this: This marks the beginning of Christians returning to Islam or converting, as many find the concept of the Trinity logically incoherent. The leading debater has failed to justify it. May he also be guided to Islam. Ameen. Your brother from India, occupied Kashmir
Amen, Frank! "Reverts" leave at well over 70%. Iran is less than 40% Muslim despite the government being ISIS. The Internet is destroying Islam. People are waking up to the fact that Muslims worship baal & he requires blood sacrif*ces via suic*de and homic*de.
Total christian victory destroying understanding of protestants, Catholics & orthodoxy elders and bringing some different understanding of the new testament.
@@sEanEtTe24eVA You are indeed coping, If Craig was born in 15th century Francia he would be burnt alive for heresy. He also kept deflecting and denying the nicea doctrine, as if it wasn't representative of 90% of christians lol...
@@jamesonthemap1768 lol muslims are obsessed with therapy language 🤣 like i said muslims favorite word is cope but infact I’m simply stating obvious facts.
Now that the Trinity has been dealt with shouldn't there now be a part 2 debate between Craig and Hijab discussing the Muslim concept of God (Tawheed)?
Yes, this is the sense I was getting. He kept making the point that Craig’s view is heterodox. But who cares? Is it trinitarian? Is it coherent? That’s what matters.
Where did he say that? He showed WLC view of the trinity is not the orthdox view Do you believe in the WLC concept of the trinity? Or do you see him as heretic
@@yassineessid6417 what’s wrong with that? Thats like saying someone wants to know about Christianity to see if that’s the right faith for them and then they throw a similar concept they have of the trinity to hijab, because they don’t get it. Are you now not going to answer and refute his understanding of the trinity to guide him or are you just going to say I don’t have to defend your understanding of the trinity? 🤣🤦♂️
Former Muslim here. Only about 14 minutes in and gave up but will probably come back and finish watching this. The argument that Quran, Chapter 5, verse 116 addresses Catholic practices of Mary's veneration falls short because both Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians differentiate between veneration and worship. In both traditions, worship (latria) is reserved for God alone, while veneration (dulia) is given to saints, with a special veneration (hyperdulia) accorded to Mary. This distinction highlights that neither tradition includes Mary in the divine triad. Chapter 5, verse 73 says that Allah is not three, making it clear that the Quran’s emphasis was on denying the concept of the Trinity. This leaves the central issue unaddressed: why would the Quran focus on an erroneous representation of Christian belief, rather than accurately critiquing the Trinity, a core doctrine that was well established in the Universal Church, since at least 325 AD.
@@Fundamental_Islam. Doesn't make a difference? Of course it does. Whoever wrote your Quran clearly didn't even know what Christians believe so it can't be God's Word because God knew Christians don't worship Mary.
Simply cuz worship in Islamic sense doesn't necessarily means that the doer intends it to be worship.... Eg Once while Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was reciting this Verse, 'Adi bin Hatim said, "O Allah's Messenger! They do not worship them (i.e. the rabbis and monks)." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "They certainly do. [They (i.e. the rabbis and monks) made lawful things as unlawful and unlawful things as lawful, and they (i.e. Jews and Christians) followed them; and by doing so, they really worshipped them]." (Narrated by Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi, and Ibn Jarir)
This verse was shared this morning in my church and two things immediately came to mind: triangles and trinity. Ecclesiastes 4:12 Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken
A gift 🎁 for your faith. There is a direct correlation between the Trinity (God), the incarnation (God’s Word) and human beings (God’s image). To understand this correlation we need to understand the 3-in-1 mystery. The evidence is all around us. There’s 3 steps to making a meal: the recipe, the ingredients, and the preparation. There are 3 branches of government: the legislative branch (to make law); the executive branch (to enforce law); and the judicial branch (to interpret the spirit of the law). There are 3 types of knowledge; what you know is your experience; what you think is your reasoning; and what you believe is your intuition. There are 3 kinds of modesty: being chaste, in dress; being humble, in speech; and being shy, in action. There are 3 sources of people: the world (what you hear 🙉); the flesh (what you see 🙈); and Satan (what you speak 🙊). There are three parts to TIME and CHANGE: the past, what something was; the present, what something is; and the future, what something will be (see Revelation 1:8). These are just some of the fingerprints of the Trinity. The Formula for the Creative Process reveals the details of the 3-in-1 mystery. First, is the mental idea; second, is the physical material; third is the spiritual action of bringing materials together to make something new. These mental, physical and spiritual realms of existence (see John 3:6) are found in making a meal 🍽️ (recipe, ingredients, and process or preparation). All of these things in the Creative Process is evidence or “fingerprints” of the Trinity. The Christian religion is the only one that has revealed these mysteries demonstrating the correlation between God, God’s Word, and God’s image.
He did already. He would again if he agreed to a neutral platform debate but he hides behind his screen and mutes everyone when they speak. Doesn't sound very brave to me.
@@David-kz2im nahh, Hijab is not compitable to debate people with high education. Their language is different than low education person like Hijab. No wonder when Craig explaining Trinity using philosophy, Hijab became more and more confuse. So in order to debate him is to use a simple and common language, like what Sam Shamoun always use to tackle low minded Muhammadan.
Ouch after watching that performance by Dr Craig on defending his version of the Trinity, I'm surprised why he isn't a Muslim already. Who knows, maybe the sincerity of Dr Craig will lead him to Islam before you.
Lol you have to be ashamed of this debate because Dr Craig distanced himself from your version of Trinitarianism. Trust me this debate alone will put Christians into doubts
@@murthe-wise535 Nope, he just stated that there are different views on Trinity and he distanced himself from the view he think is not correct. Dispute among these views was not the topic of the debate.
One of the best debates I've ever heard. I have been questioning whether or not the son is eternally begotten or not and am going to look to learn more about William Lane Craig's view. I met Tony Robbins a few decades ago and spent three days at his home and for a long time I've felt if I could have a sit down lunch to pick someone's brain, Tony Robbins would be my guy. But for several years now, Dr. Craig would be my first choice as his view on Molinism has impacted me greatly and for me introduced "middle knowledge" and impacted a huge part of my current theology. I was very impressed with Mr. Hijab's research into the Dr. Craig views and was so glad Mr. Hijab was able to keep his cool and not go ballistic as he has in the past on Piers Morgan's show. I like how WMC frames the Father as the Soul of God as that is an analogy I use, and note that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and Jesus is the Flesh of God. Both the Spirit and the Son have their own wills, yet always submit in harmony to the will of the Father. We are a tri-unity in similar fashion as we have a soul, spirit and flesh and we have internal dialogue where our flesh may be saying one thing but we are at peace when our flesh and spirit are being led by the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ and we submit to the Father in full. As Jesus said when it came to him wanting to avoid the cross, "Not my will but Your will be done."
@@needmoarcheese , actually, that argument, while entertaining, does not refute the Trinity. - Remember: the Trinity is defined as three distinct, yet, co-equal hypostases within one divine essence. This argument makes a categorical error; this argument fails to distinguish between hypostases and essence. Furthermore, there are several other issue to address here. - Firstly, he Trinity is metaphysical in nature, not mathematical. Math equations are inadequate tools to describe philosophical and theological assertions. - Second, there is a misapplication of the equation here; The equation "1 ÷ x = 1" implies that x must be 1 because division in mathematics requires that any number divided by itself is 1. The Trinity, however, treats the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as distinct persons within the same essence and not divisible parts of the same structure. These persons are, again, distinct, yet, co-equal hypostases within one divine essence; the persons of the Trinity can be distinguished but NOT separated. - Just for clarification, the Trinity is not “1 divided by 3,” the Trinity is “one God in three persons” and the concept can, therefore, not be reduced to a mathematical formula like the one you described. - In conclusion, because the Trinity is three distinct, yet, co-equal hypostases in one divine essence, the Trinity is not in violation of the Law of Non-contradiction and is, therefore, not “illogical” or “irrational,” as you suggested in a separate comment. -- Despite the Trinity being, difficult to wrap our heads around, the Trinity is not irrational nor illogical.
@@cuthbertmweemba6850 Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
What I don’t understand is why Hijab kept saying that Craig does not align with more orthodox positions. Who cares? The debate is not whether orthodox views on the trinity are coherent, but whether the trinity is. Craig offers an account of the trinity, one he believes is based upon NT texts, and defends it. Hijab’s burden in the debate is not alleviated by saying Craig’s view is not orthodox, nor is it met through noting that Islamic doctrine has made similar claims. So long as Craig’s view is Christian, trinitarian and not identical to Islam, it makes no difference.
Of course it makes a difference, the point is that Craig deviates from more orthodox understanding, and thus his views are important to understand of the Trinity is coherent from his understanding
@@mattholt2451it doesnt make a difference. Attacking strawmen is a fallacy. WLC being a heretical protestant and not understanding subordination in the trinity is a whole other issue.
@@andreaspapapap7737 which is relevant because the discussion is HIM. His views and interpretations are important, just like if Hijab debated any other apologetics
The trinity is a doctrine. The doctrine, in Christianity, is as follows: *_"We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father infinite; the Son infinite; and the Holy Ghost infinite. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the Catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity."_* WLC himself doesn't think this is coherent, hence why he doesn't believe in it. That is why it matters that his views don't align with 99% of modern Christianity. Let's say WLC is correct and 99% of Christians are going to hell. Your response is simply, _"Who cares?"_ Well, you should be the one who cares. Let's say WLC concedes the debate and admits the Trinity is incoherent. How many comments do you think we'd see from Christians objecting that his view of the Trinity is wrong? Heretical? Fringe? Is the Muslim debater supposed to refute every iteration of a triune godhead? Where does it end? Is he burdened to show the incoherence of the Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva trimurti as well? What exactly could he have done in this debate that would cause you to admit he won? Or more importantly, cause you to question your beliefs?
He's saying if the doctrine of the trinity is that essential to salvation and is clearly inferred from the text of the new testament then you can't have only one person adhering to the correct doctrine that for thousands of years the church didn't get and that's a MASSIVE PROBLEM IN ADDITION TO THE LOGICAL INCOHERENCE OF THE TRINITY.
I do applaud Dr. Craig for being able to maintain such composure an patience with Hijab. As for the talking points. I noticed Hijab was quick to dismiss the claim that the Quran was outlining that Allah, Isa, and Mary was the trinity. [5:116] And when Allah said, "O ‘Isā, son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as two gods, other than Allah'?" This is further supported by the Quran in earlier passages. [5:73-75] "Surely Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one god, and if they do not refrain from what they are saying,... The Christ, son of Mary, is nothing except a messenger; indeed, other messengers have gone before him, and his mother is a siddīqah (virtuous person). They were eating the food. So why does the Quran itself go out of its way to emphasize the humanity of Mary if she supposedly was never divine? The quran is clearly stating that Mary was not divine as she was subjected to human needs. To go further, Muqatil Ibn Sulaiman's commentary on the Quran outlined 3 groups of Christians. As he wrote, Nestorians (Church of the East), who say Isa is the Son of Allah. The Jacobites (Orientals), say Allah is the Messiah. And the Melkites (Byzantines/Orthodox) who say Allah is a third of thee and is a god, and Isa is a god, and Mary is a god. I think with this evidence, it is safe to say that Hijab is running from the historical position that Muslims had as they did not converse with the Romans about theological doctrine to get a proper understanding of Christian doctrine.
It's really easy to stay calm when you know your opponent has no argument they could possibly pose against you. When God is on your side, how could you ever lose?
If you mean *_Muqatil ibn Sulayman,_* he was known to be a liar. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a Quqatil ibn Sulayman. But either way, yes the Qur'an does address the false belief of Mary's divinity. Why? Because people believed in it. If you don't, then rather than asserting the Qur'an just gets the trinity wrong, maybe consider the possibility that your beliefs are not the only false beliefs the Qur'an addresses. There have been thousands of versions of Christianity throughout the centuries. Collyridianism is one example of a sect that did believe Mary was a goddess. Granted, scholars are still debating its existence, but it was a church father who first wrote about it. Any guesses *_where_* he said it existed? Arabia. Regardless of whether this particular example ever existed, not everything is about you. There are plenty of verses that refute your preferred flavor of Christianity as well. What I find interesting, is how people want to talk about their misconceptions of the Qur'an "getting the trinity wrong", yet none of these people want to talk about WLC "getting the trinity wrong", which is far more relevant to the topic of discussion.
@@sunwukong32 You are talking such non-sense. Why would the Quran expose the wrong beliefs of a tiny christian cult, who saw Virgin Mary as God, when the Quran should expose the supposed changed Injil, which says that the Trinity consists of God the Father, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit. The Quran in 5:116 should have exposed exactly this belief, which was believed by the majority of the Christians at the time of Muhammad, but instead, it's talking about Jesus and Mary as two Gods besides Allah, which just makes no sense. Islam did not understand the religion of the apostolic early church fathers.
@@sunwukong32 So why is it that this an objection to the trinity in the Quran? If I was to create a polemic against Islam, I don't base it off the Baha'i faith. Conversely, you as a modern Muslim would you base your polemic against Christianity by using Mormonism. So why is the Quran dedicating multiple verse to create a polemic against Collyridianism which was a women's only movement that existed in the 4th to 5th century, if it did at all? The main reason we only know about them is because Epiphanius condemned them, there is no other historical trace of them by name. Finally, here group dissolved 100 years before Mohamad was alive. So again, why is there a polemic against an ultra-fringe group (that may not have existed) that was not active for 100 years at least? Next, where does Islam condemn the Holy Spirit to be part of the trinity? At no point does the Quran ever go into the detail of the Spirit, which is the actual 3rd person of the trinity. You as a Muslim have no real answer to God giving his spirit to Moses, and then spreading that same spirit to the 70 elders. Numbers 11:25 Then the Lord came down in the cloud, and spoke to him, and took of the Spirit that was upon him, and placed the same upon the seventy elders; and it happened, when the Spirit rested upon them, that they prophesied, [h]although they never did so again. Numbers 11:29 Then Moses said to him, “Are you zealous for my sake? Oh, that all the Lord’s people were prophets and that the Lord would put His Spirit upon them!” While on the subject, we should take about Pentecost as The Holy Spirit came down upon the Apostles. They had tongues of fire rest on them and when the Apostles spoke, all could hear them in their own language. But we can keep going with the OT Genesis 6:3 Then the Lord God said, “My Spirit shall not remain with these people forever, for they are flesh. So their days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” Isaiah 44:3 For I will give water to the thirsty who walk in a waterless place. I will put My Spirit upon your seed and My blessings upon your children. Isaiah 48:16 "Come ye near unto Me, hear ye this: From the beginning I have not spoken in secret; from the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord GOD has sent me, and His Spirit." Joel 2:28 “After this it shall come to pass that I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh; God identifies "His Spirit" as himself (Gen 6:3 My Spirit). It is not a creation from him, it is God. Your supposed polemic falls flat when you can't accurately describe what the Ruh is and the Shekhinah Glory and how it rested on the Ark or filled the temple.
@@mastermiller2944 I'm going to suggest you save your time and energy in these responses in case you plan on going back into preacher mode. The Bible is a collection of books authored by men. It holds no authority or credibility in our paradigm, so it makes no sense to hold up a book you (Christians) wrote yourselves and say, _"Well how does God explain this??"_ Hopefully you can understand our position regarding this. He doesn't need to explain your book when you had no authority to write it in the first place. As for Collyridianism, I never said this was the sect that was intended as the audience of these verses. Think critically for a moment. How many "Christians" do you have today who belong to no church, no denomination, and they have random heretical beliefs that they've picked up from random places, and believed it all just because they liked it? There are "Christians" right now who believe Jesus was a mushroom. The point was only that the belief existed in the area. Collyridianism was called that because of (and defined by) their practice of making these cakes for Mary. If that particular sect who baked the cakes no longer existed, it doesn't mean people stopped worshiping Mary. Don't you think the Sahaba who converted from Christianity would have something to say if the Qur'an was describing a Christianity that didn't exist? You're presuming to tell God how He should have addressed your false belief. What difference does it make whether he specifically outlines your version of the Trinity or not? And again, why is this of more concern to you than WLC saying your version of the Trinity isn't biblical? If I were Christian and believed Islam to be false, I would be infinitely more concerned with one of the greatest Christian thinkers and debaters leveling an accusation of blasphemy at 99% of Christianity. But I digress. Whether you're a trinitarian, unitarian, Mormon, or anything other than Muslim, the Qur'an has told you in no uncertain terms that your belief is false. If the Qur'an is truly from God, are you going to stand before Him on judgment day trying to hide behind the excuse that he didn't specifically say your version of the Trinity was false? When He told you explicitly, He has no son and He is not one of three (whether that be beings *_or persons)?_* I doubt that would get you very far.
@@alexsmith2766 If he's right, he should be able to explain. Usually people resort to shouting, because their arguments are weak. MH believes in a god with 2 right arms, heaven-located as a physical being, but yet omnipresent, so that is illogical and cannot fit "tawhid", since Islamic Allah would need multiple concurrent forms. The Quran also has references to the Spirit, that are reinterpretted usually as Jibril, but those re-interpretations don't all work. Quran author was much confused or it was a rambling compilation ?
It’s so charming to see WCG !!!! I feel like I went through all of his content on TH-cam but seeing him now is the best !!! I hope he does more content although I am subscribed to his channel :,)
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@@Seraph_888 Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
DR. Craig did a good job standing firm on Trinity. I think Hijab approach the persons of the Trinity as though they are separate Gods, as if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not one being even one God.
He thinks the trinity is tritheism, so he's misrepresented the trinity by default, muslims always do this to make a case against the trinity and make the claim that trinitarians don't worship one which is false.
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each?? Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens). Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@bbab664 Yeah, it's called one company, one goal. Those in that company all work with a common goal and complete it. God is one God, so if Father, Son, or Holy Spirit do something, God does that thing by his own divine power
@owaissheraz Yes, the people have to align their wills to become one accord. Yet I believe God is one God and Father, Son and Holy Spirit have the same divine will
Hijab sounded like a snake oil salesman eho just blabbers things which he know rather than understanding the argument and position taken by Dr Craig. Such an embarrassment.
@@scaryjoker Being in majority doesn't make you right. Show me one person that is born without mind, body and soul or that can exist without either of these 3 manifestations. I'll wait.
@@MultiSky7 My mind is NOT the person. My soul is NOT the person. My body is NOT the person. This is the complete opposite of what the Trinity states. Father, Son, Spirit IS God
@@scaryjoker Every single one of them is a manifestation of you. Your mind is you, your body is you, your soul is you - they make one WHOLE you. These manifestations are distinct from one another, neither one is superior over the other 2, yet they are intertwined and inseparable, and because them being inseparable, that proves that either in its nature is whole (in terms of importance - you can't live without either of them).
Hijab: he doesn’t believe the same as other Christians Craig: that’s correct Hijab : he doesn’t believe the same as other Christians Craig: that’s correct Hijab: say you don’t believe the same as other Christians How dense is hijab?
How dense is the viewer who cannot appreciate the strategy of Hijab *first* establishing that *both* he and Craig agree that the Trinity *as understood by the vast majority of Christians today* is incoherent. That was step one. Did you watch the rest of the debate? Hijab *did* put forth arguments for why the Trinity (even as understood by Craig) is incoherent. If you don't agree with his arguments, that's one thing. It's another to pretend that Hijab did not put forth arguments that are relevant to the topic.
Dr. Craig’s smiling while Muhammad talking smack is the patiences I need in my life.
The only smack I’m hearing is is coming from Dr Craig
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Smiling dosent save christianity 😂
@@akomohammadi6230 Christianity doesn’t need to be saved 😂
@@akomohammadi6230it's better to smile rather than exploding yourself yet still doesn't safe what you believe
Hijab's inability to control himself and keep an indoor voice even when speaking to such a gentle-mannered interlocutor is very concerning.
To be fair, ¡$|amic scholars usually do poorly in the philosophical events but excel in beheadings.
He is used to whipping up his followers for affirmation because the louder you are the more correct you are.
It's also, attempt to bully. He thinks his arrogance is power and he tries to club others with it. But it is his weakness, and he destroys himself. He should be grateful that the other man is merciful and kind as his intent is to give and heal..
@@lilacflowerdays Try carrying in a "conversation" with Muslims at Speaker's Square in Hyde Park London. (Google it)
Hijab is typical.
@@lilacflowerdays Try carrying on a "conversation" with Muslims at Speaker's Square in Hyde Park London. (Google it)
Hijab is typical.
The only thing bigger than Hijab's ignorance is his arrogance.
😂😂
when your religion has fallen apart all you have left are insults and cope
Hijab agreed that Dr. William Lane Craig is a fantastic person. "You shall know them by their fruits." Christianity produces good fruits.
And the only thing bigger than his arrogance is Christianity’s absurdity
Poor Hijab 😆😆😆
Craig is a straight-up professional throughout this entire dialog.
Professional doesnt = truth.... a hindu is more calm than a Christian preacher,,,so hinduism is true?????
@@joyboyboy5149 I'm just commenting on his demeanor fam
@@Yugi601 Noted bro...ur the first person with some sense..other comments aka trumpers are hyprocrites..but when their god = trump speaks loudly...it must be the truth then...hahahha...
@@joyboyboy5149 yeah nah I just respect his attitude lol
@@Yugi601ironically, it's normally the people frustrating people with their ignorance that can keep their composure. It's that ignorance that allows them to maintain the fascade of "professionalism".
Thank you Hijab to reaffirm my Christianity 100% and eternally
Good luck believing in a God that dies on the cross
@@turkihazemwe have no problems with that , for it is the truth, the Norm of reality . isn't that interesting, a crucified God ? do you think mankind could invent such a thing with that much details , it seems to be confusing on every level , how is that possible ?
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Their God didn’t die. They believe God is three persons. That’s who God is yet only one person of the Trinity died. 1/3 of God died and his human nature also died so two natures died on the cross. As Cuckoo as Cocoa Puffs
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So the second person in the trinity is not immortal? How is he co equal to the father if one of them mortal and the other is immortal
Thank you for disproving the trinity
@@planteruines5619 obviously pagans do not have problem with sacrificing gods etc.
Why Muhammed Hijab cant talk like a civilized person?
Your God was a jelous and angry God in the old testament when people worshiped other Gods beside him .. why can't hijab ?
@@bestryfulhd2102 so, you compare hijab to God?
Because his prophet was a savage human being what did you expect from his followers
@@MU-we8hz the old testament people used to st0ne anyone who call to worship another God beside the true God .
@@bestryfulhd2102 Our God's anger was pure. Mjiab is simply a neanderthal.
This dude doesn’t belong on the same stage with Dr. Craig. Why do people keep giving this guy a platform to speak.
He has a big platform. It's good to refute him publicly.
Because his name is Muhammad hijab. Very Muslim sounding. The prophet and the head covering.
Imagine a Jew named Judah yamaka. You’d have to assume that guy knew a thing or two.
It's because he has a big platform. I would prefer someone more calm. And willing to debate an Islamic topic too.
He needs to be publicly embarrassed
you attack the person to elude the arguments
Hijab is the best example of how degrees do not indicate intelligence.
true what has accredited ,graded academic intelligence got to do with wisdom? NOTHING INTELLIGENT FOOLS WE HAVE ALL MET THEM
The Trinity is a damnable Pagan Heresy that’ll see you burn in Hell.
“Hear O Israel; The (singular) Lord (singular) thy God (singular) is One (singular) Lord. (singular)”
It isn’t rocket science Einstein.
@@kennyevans6197 His family literally owns a scam fake college that targets Muslims trying to move to the UK. Normally, I would agree with you, that an "accredited" degree is at least meaningful..... but not if Hijab literally makes fake degrees as a family business! They stole the "Cambridge" logos and name, they are literal scammers, I wish I was joking! Look up "Cambridge Training College Britain", this is his family business. It is a literal scam college that specifically targets foreign Muslims trying to improve their lives, only to be scammed by the Hijabs.
Mohammed clearly won the debate
He dismantled the Dr bit by bit. Yall just wanna hang on to Christianity like it’s a clique. Seek the truth
To put Dr. Craig against this disrespectful clown is ridiculous. I know this is going to be painful to watch.
That’s what i was thinking.
@@none377 what you rather put him up with ali dawah? Based on credentials it’s a very fruitful matchup both have good credentials
Farreal!!!
I’m half way through and it’s bad. No idea why WLC accepted this
It was painfully painful
I’m always impressed with Dr. Craig’s ability to stay so calm regardless of what someone says to him.
Yes, he's nonsensically very calm even after he lost the debat
Both stayed calm
@@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457 only one was attacked
Jesus says all are gods John 10:34 So who wants to be slave of Allah ? God doesnt slave only Devil!
Hijab...
*Who is Powerful ? Triune God - God the Father, The Creator, God the Son, the redeemer (from our sins) and God the Holy Spirit The Sanctifier*
or Man made Allah and His baqri as the redeemer to redeem from mankind sins, specially when comes to mass violences, murders,...?
Muslims got it right ? or still want to follow single headed dictator false god and not the actual Creator The Father / Redeemer The Son/ Sanctifier The Holy Spirit, The Triune God ? Who calls you His Children and not slaves, choice is yours!!!
Hijab calls himself an "intellectual" brags for his degrees and yet he struggled to understand and follow with philosophical terms ...
No he’s playing dumb. He’s a dishonest rat
Degrees ? he is a fraud! Watch Jai and Doc channel exposing him
There is no analogy in the world that can depict the trinity.
H20: water, ice, steam. Same essence different form.
@@faizanfarooqui5226 Mohammed is so intellectually weak, that he has to resort to screaming, and sweating because of how angry he gets at his own weakness😂😂
This guy remains the very best manifestation of the reason why the Internet will bury Islam...
Right. I have a lot of people from Pakistan that left Islam.
How
The Trinity is a damnable Pagan Heresy that’ll see you burn in Hell.
“Hear O Israel; The (singular) Lord (singular) thy God (singular) is One (singular) Lord. (singular)”
It isn’t rocket science Einstein.
@@Tetrus120 Traditionally, Islam required a lot of "blind following", but the Internet allows Muslims to look things up for them selfs, and also TRANSLATE things properly, without bias or [added words].
Idk if you are muslim or not, but if you are, then you know that all Imams say "If you dont know fluent arabic, you cant read the quran, it is impossible to translate!"... which is a load of bologna, because every language can be translated. If a language cant be translated, it simply isn't a language, its gibberish, and surely the Quran is not gibberish lol. Not to mention, if it is actually impossible to translate into a different language on paper, then it is also impossible for someone to translate it verbally. If you cant translate the writing, then surely you cant translate it verbally. It does not make sense for something to be untranslatable on paper but not verbally.
So, why are Imams so adamant about NOT reading the quran? Seems strange, especially if you are christian, because every single christian church service includes the pastor telling the crowd "read your bible!" at least 10 times each Sunday, over and over again. Going to church is only half the work, you need to read your bible! But not muslims, they are told to NEVER read it! Just listen to your Imams, trust us bro! All you have to do is pray 5 times a day and never question your Imam.
If you want to know WHY they dont like muslims reading their own Quran, all you have to do is read the Quran.... Its very obvious when you read it! Because its a horribly violent book, encouraging the worst things humanity has to offer. No one wants to be a muslim after reading it, unless they are a fan of owning $3x slaves or being a PDF file.
Theres also a ridiculous amount of continuity errors and contradictions.
Here are a couple verses you can look up, if you are curious about the violent parts
2: 191 (drive out the non believers, allowing disobedience is worse than murder)
4: 34 (its okay to beat your wifes, and not only is it okay, but you should strike them to PREVENT disobedience, not just as punishment)
23: 1-6 (You are allowed to R word your female slaves)
98: 6 (christians and jews are the worst of creatures)
Theres also parts that say you must implement apartheid against Christians and jews, making them "dhimmis", and then they must pay the "jizya tax" or be killed.
Muhhamad married a 6 year old.
Black slaves are half the price of non black slaves (this is Sahih Muslim 1602, not Quran, but my point still stands)
And thats just a couple!
Yeah man, all those people converting to islam is proof of that isn't it.
Hijab failed to demonstrate incoherence, but instead emphasized disagreement among Christians, which was not relevant to the topic of the debate. Rhetorically it can appear strong to accuse WLC of "rejecting the majority of Christianity", but the logical coherence of the Trinity does not stand or fall with popularity. An incorrect understanding may well be incoherent, but again this does not demonstrate that the Trinity itself is incoherent, even if it is a popular misunderstanding, because the incoherence is introduced by a mistaken definition.
WLC demonstrated that there are plausible answers to all of the questions that Hijab raised, and whether Hijab is personally convinced of those does not affect whether the Trinity is logically coherent. Far from WLC needing to prove that the answers he gave to Hijab are necessarily true as a condition for demonstrating coherence, it was Hijab's job to demonstrate why his answers are necessarily impossible, which Hijab failed to do. As such the plausibility of WLC's answers stands and is enough to demonstrate that the Trinity is in fact logically coherent.
Sorry mate, 7th century illiterate PDF warlord said otherwise. Your argument is invalid.
@@truthmatters7573 the best comment here thanks
Great summary bro 🙏
Thanks for the positive feedback guys :)
Also, remember that Islam is self refuting because of the Islamic Dilemma. So whatever superficial appeal it may have when they are on the offense, they cannot actually defend their religion. Perhaps that's why Islam's philosophy has always been the best defense is offense (often in very literal and physical ways).
you are insane if you expect me to read that but hey... i agree! (just like a muslim and the quran)
The biggest lie i've seen on this channel is calling Hijab a "thinker" 😂
Within islam hes a thinker
(Yes its that bad)
@@lowther7046😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Certainly a generous statement
Thinking is haram, Allah knows best.
Can hijab stop screaming for the love of God
He can't. He's an emotional egoic idiot who's not here to listen but to promote his Islam to non-muslims and argue about it. He views those who debate him as his enemies. You can see the disrespect he shows to everyone who disagrees with him.
the triune God*
When one doesn't have a point sometimes he or she must rely on screaming to make believe
@@amintoodeep have you seen a Christian missionary screaming at the top of their lungs?
Cry more😂😂
The amount of tolerance that Lane shows towards Hijab's misguided methods of discussing theology is truly devine. God bless you William Lane and I am hoping Hijab can eventually speak with deeper sense of reason with less personal attacks.
Hey we owe Hijab a lot. He got a Quran scholar Yasir Qadhi to admit on social media that the Quran has holes in it. He destroyed the Islamic stance of perfect preservation of Quran. His friend Ali destroyed the scientific miracle claims in the Quran. I do pray Hijab comes to a saving faith in the biblical Christ.
Yasir Qadhi isn't a scholar of any sort, and the guy is a deviant, according to most Muslims.
Yasir qadhi isn't even a student of knowledge, calling him scholar against those like shaykh uthaymeen and binbaz who have been grand muftis and supervised the best Islamic universities, Yasir qadhi is a deviant jahil th-cam.com/users/liveESq18-74aW0?si=ejvhx12Df9IIl6Tz
If u think this guy is our scholar lol, we don't even consider him a missionary or speaker
Amen! Let's keep praying for these men... I think of who they will be when transformed by the love of God.
U think that god is like a dog?
ur defending a heretic who attacks early christian scholars like aquinas
may allah guide you
oh brother
>Debate on the coherence on the Trinity
>Look inside
>Is a debate about if WLC is a heretic
Sadly WLG did not even try to attempt or explain the trinity but instead deflected to attacking islam
@@zccau2316 He explained it at the 5:00 mark.
Even ,Craig agreed the non heretic view of trinity is incoherent 🤷♂️
No he didn't, @@muhammedshanushan3931. Why lie? If you think I am wrong, post the time stamp. Support your unfounded claim.
@@bowrudder899
Lol Are you trying to say he took the heretic view even when the non heretic view is coherent?
Eh really ? Seriously?
Ignatius (37-107 AD) - "... the *Eternal, Invisible,* who for our sake became visible; our GOD, Jesus the Christ." ... (and many more) Hijab should really not be quoting church fathers and early Christians...
Not biblical nor in the Bible
@@CommonSenseChristianityTif you want common sense, then you should consider the testimony of the earliest Christians, such as the author quoted above
Old testament says God can't be seen. Christian L
@@husseinpoliphiloexcept abraham. moses. Isaiah. ezekiel. john. the 70 elders of israel. Jacob. etc. who all saw god 😭
@@CommonSenseChristianityT In the beginning was the word... Read the Bible pls.
Dr Craig: gracious, poignant, humble, asserting his intellectual dominance.
Hijab: incoherent arguments, making grand, baseless, and absurd claims. Doesn’t even understand his ignorance on most of Dr Craigs points.
Hijab's arguments were incoherent? and the trinity is, right?
@@learningenthusiasm Very much so!
Hijab won the debate. Clearly
@@rrrrych You see Hijab won the debate he showed that two candles can form a bigger flame!!
Education helps! There is no 1 to 1 example of the Divine Trinity in Creation! Because everything that is in creation cannot be compared with Allah! Just as you can't give an example in creation of what Allah is one means!
Bruh, this was as bad as I thought it was going to be. Mohammad Hijab is an utter joke, and the fact that he even got a stage with Dr. Craig is a little disappointing.
Hijab is BY FAR THE WORST opponent Dr. Craig has ever faced, and that’s saying something.
Literally could have had Dr. Craig have a debate with Elmo and got a better discussion out of it.
Stop lying to yourself, you know deep down that your Dr lost the debate, lost so bad that he started going into preacher mode at the end hahhaha
@@Honourkingdomm I am grateful Dr. Craig appealed to Muslims for the truth of Jesus Christ, and that all people should freely choose to follow him. I respect his closing statements most of all.
@@Honourkingdomm Mohammed was straight up arguing that its a contradiction to say that the son and the father can't disagree with each other, this just shows how intellectually weak he is 😂
Heres an easy example, lets say 2 people with perfect knowledge and perfect reason, both gets asked the same question, what is 2+2? Both will answer 4 and will NEVER disagree and can never disagree per definition
Mohammed thinks this is a contradiction, which shows how utterly weak he is intellectually. No Mohammed, the reason why they would never disagree is because since they are perfect in knowledge and perfect in reason, it is for Mohammed to explain why and how they COULD ever disagree? Why would they disagree that 2+2 = 4? HOW could they every disagree that 2+2 = 4?
Mohammed doesn't even understand that if they were to be able to disagree it would be a logical contradiction lol
I don’t think WLC did that great but Mojab was embarrassingly bad in parts of the debate.
@@HarpreetSingh-kj8ro WLC did exactly as good as he had to do, and that is because Mohammad didn’t understand enough to move the conversation forward. WLC made a case, and it was never refuted. That’s the only reason we didn’t get more from Dr. Craig.
Hijab was sputtering and flapping his wings, while Craig calmly dismantled all of Hijab's nonsense.
Yeah craig dismantle hijab by saying that a christian god is like a three headed dog. And the irony is u are supporting craig and agree with his trinity analogy.
Yes the trinity is like a 3 headed dog 🐕
Christian cope is on another level
🤣🤣🤣 these christians are too blind
@@zohaibali7837It's called an analogy. If you actually read what Jesus said instead of just what someone 600 years later said about Him, you'd see Jesus used analogies and parables all the time.
@@James-ny2xl okay so did jesus called himself holyspirit and father a three headed dog. I think not. Using analogies and calling ur god a dog. Even jesus would have taken a rain check on that
The Abduuul Hijab can't make a point without acting like a WWE performer. This is a debate not a camel racing event
You're so wrong for this lmao
So wrong😂😂
@@olubunmidaemusin2125 WLC said your god can bite 💀
Most importantly Hijab was respectful. This is very different to the comment section
@@alphauno6614 You understand respect very differently than the rest of the world!
It's nice to read comments that aren't heavily moderated. Of course, as always, Mr. Hijab's comment section is censored into unadulterated victory.
Ask main stream muslim debaters delete criticism, I tried debating on many but they get deleted
Without lies islam dies.
Islam thrived on the sword but died by the internet. 😂😂
“Thrived by the sword”
Luke 19:27
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” (About infidel)
Matthew 10:34
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword".
“Died” meanwhile in reality it’s the fastest growing religion
@@abszm8736 NIce, now tell us what it means through your demonic lens ?
@@tradertrader6070”Dies” in the sense of being refuted
@@TyrellWellickEcorp What's the refutation?
To be fair :
Hijab did A lot of strawman, gish gallop, false dichotomy, and false equivocation.
WLC, really didn't have to do much. Hijab proved he was an intellectual Idot.
Lastly, I stated it before hand. Hajib underestimated WLC and he overestimated his self. Hijab narrcism is on a level beyound crazy. He is a literal nobody telling one of the greatest philosperies of our time that he doesn't know what he is talking about. Think about that.
"An islamic scholar" actually translates to a top level zealot.
Mad ranting and desire for the power that islam might afford them.
I didn't watch this, but he basically turns into a schoolyard bully as soon as he's debating muslims. He tried to keep up a pretence of maturity with Jordan Peterson, but yeah
Hahahaha I pushed out a laughter so hard I sh&t myself at a job interview 😂
Hijab needs to repent. Pray for him.
@@deadprivacy You're coping big time. Keep believing a self refuting doctrine thatbrequires you to be a 'muh intellectual' to understand. Complete cope.
Multiple non-sequiters and misrepresented views presented by Hijab, well done Dr. Craig. Arguments from emotion and ignorance have no place in philosophy.
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@@bbab664 dude, God's person is not a material. So your anology is 100% false analogy. Its like comparing human spirit with stone or tree.
Cope harder
@@bbab664brother/sister If you think this please watch Sam Shamoun and Christian Prince and GodLogic. Check them out.
@@jooo7011 Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
I know this is a Christian channel, so a lot of the comments are against Mohammad Hijab. However, I encourage all to actually think and ponder over the arguments made in the actual debate rather than just talking about the volume of one’s voice or calling names. ❤
Oh trust we heard the arguments. Your guy loss badly.
He didn’t make any substantive argument.
Mojob: *If I scream, I must be right!*
He was right, Hijab Won
WE ALL KNOW THAT'S HOW IT WORKS DR. CRAIG
He was tho
True 💯, Mohammed NoJob is very laughable.
@@LightPr1nce Because? Can you provide justification other than “my guy won because I said so”?
Muhammad Hijab debated like a 4th grader giving a book report on a book he didn't read. He was not prepared for Craig, and Craig wasn't even going all in.
Let's be honest
Either Ur not intellectually equipment to understand
Or dishonest 😅
What debate were you watching lol. Hijab decimated him
@@feds9602no he didn’t Zoomalian
@@feds9602 decimated his braincells perhaps. Hijab thought the debate was about if WLC was a heretic, but that's not what it was about, but I know somebody like you would be impressed by Hijab's performance.
Very Simple! Single heades god like allah, anyone can imagine or create... including counterfeited single book - quran, specially by elite, communists, for divide and rule
Hijab for half the debate: I don't understand why my interlocutor won't respond to the accusation I've decided is the new topic of the debate, and I'm going to keep repeating myself until time runs out.
@@owlintrenchcoat So true. Hijab didn't offer one argument without trying to also attack Craig's orthodoxy. The few arguments he scattered in there were really, really weak. Basically just saying that you don't have a perfect physical analogy, so you're wrong, while the Quran is full of imperfect analogies about Allah. God is totally above, so of course no analogy of temporary, physical thing will perfectly capture the eternal essence of God. Whether or not we have a good analogy for something says nothing about whether it is coherent.
That's a diversion from the debate topic?! Did you notice the diversion Dr. Craig made by talking about Tawheed?!
@@suelenq1708 I never raid Craig didn't also debate poorly at times. I said that, yes, Hijab abandoned the idea of attacking the consistency of the doctrine to focus instead on whether Craig's a heretic or not.
I’m more Christian now then ever before. Good job. 👍
explain the trinity
how is comparing god to a 3 headed dog not blasphemy?
@@OneGodManyProphets
Says the person who has likely never read anything in 2000 years of Christian Theology. Laughable. Stupid analogy of a third grader 🤡
@@cachinnation448
So do I think comparing god to a 3 headed dog is blasphemy or is it q good analogy?
This was used by WLC
Welcome to hell
The Trinity is a damnable Pagan Heresy that’ll see you burn in Hell.
“Hear O Israel; The (singular) Lord (singular) thy God (singular) is One (singular) Lord. (singular)”
It isn’t rocket science Einstein.
ADD version: Mo says that the trinity is false because William Lane Craig has views different from most Christians about the emanation of the son and the proceeding of the spirit.
Craig defends his views and then says, "this isn't 'really relevant to whether the trinity is logically incoherent or not." This is correct. WLC's views on emanation or proceeding don't really matter for whether the trinity is logically possible.
Mo next says how can multiple persons be involved in creation? Craig says, "it's just causal overdetermination, like two matches lighting the same candle simultaneously." Mohammed rejects the existence of this category by citing a bunch of examples where causal overdetermination is not present.
That's it!
Should be top comment
Pin of glory
Do you also affirm Dr Craig's understanding of the Trinity which goes against 99% of all Christians? If so, why did it take 17 centuries for people to truely understand God in Christianity?
The debate isn’t whether Craig’s interpretation of the trinity is orthodox or even true. It’s about whether it’s coherent.
@@alphauno6614no one can truly understand God. If you think you have fully understood Allah then you are either presumptuous or he isn't really God
Love the way WLC shared his closing statement!! He never got into a debate to prove his eloquence but always to witness the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ! A Muslim who will read will no longer remain a Muslim!
Ended it as a preacher, yes.
If a Muslim is doomed to hell for not believing in the trinity, then you must also believe Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Noah and Jacob are all doomed to hell. Even Jesus too according to the bible where he says "My Father is greater than I".
😂
@@MG-cc9hiThat's wrong. They lived before Jesus. Jesus Christ saved mankind by taking all our sins on the cross.
@@therealshadow8811 If they lived before Jesus, that means Jesus is not their creator so Jesus is not God. Jesus came after because he was created by God. He was created by the word of God miraculously without a father just like Adam was created without parents - Allah said "Be" and it was.
It's almost like listening to Harry Potter fans debating with LOTR fanatics about which story is better
Hijab is simply not understanding or is being deceitful. I think deceitful.
That's the only right conclusion.
I think Hijab understood the Trinity more than Dr Craig. Were you convinced by Dr Craig's version of the Trinity? Do you also reject the begotten Son doctrine?
@alphauno6614 we know you're a muslim we saw you in the live.
A little of both, more of the latter.
@@alphauno6614”Monogenes”, the word that was often translated as “begotten” actually means “unique in kind” or “only one if it’s kind.”
I've heard Mohammed Hijab perform poorly before, but this one might take the cake.
He performed very very poorly vs Bart Ehrman.
Look into his dishonest conduct VS Alex O'Connor.
Have u watched the full debate with open mind?
Honestly, he rarely performs well, even going back to Speaker's Corner.
@@Dinobs8089 yes, I have no particular attachment to Craig's views. I disagree with him on multiple positions.
Cameron, you did an excellent job of moderation here. Well done!
No he didn’t he let the topic totally fall to the wayside
I would suggest a much longer time control than 2-minutes. Perhaps 5 minutes for the first couple exchanges. Then, 2-3 minutes for responses.
I almost agreed but if you have seen Hijab debate before you will know this works well for him rambling and insulting people. With time he was pinned down.
Hijab is one of the most dangerous influencers in the world.
@@leechrec he is dangerous, but I wouldn't say one of the most dangerous out there as there are some capable of far more harm than he is.
He is, however, definitely one of the most pathetic.
You spelt ‘pathetic’ wrong
@@gre8 He brings a lot of danger to Christian faith.
😂
@@gre8 cry man, it is hard I know
Calm down, Hijab.
its the mic volume look at the beginning even when he's talking
He lost the debate, thats why
🤣🤣rat in corner🤣🤣
Dr. Craig addressing Muslims and inviting them to consider Christ instead of repeating himself was awesome. Hijab calls it “running” cuz he can’t recognize what it really is…
That's something I really appreciate about Dr. Craig. He usually does that in his closing statements, because he has an evangelist's heart.
Dr. Craig basically reftued all mainstream christian belief in the first 20 minutes. You are coping after he threw you and all your church fathers under the bus.
If you want to understand who won and who lost this debate, look no further than the closing statements. WLC abandoned the entire debate topic which he spent an hour trying to defend and instead began evangelising as a damage control measure because he understood better than anyone that his inability to defend the trinity will irreversibly damage the faith of Christians. Him talking to Muslims in his closing statement was actually little more than a desperate plea to Christian viewers to keep the faith in the face of glaring incoherence.
I don't understand how these people can, in any way, claim victory. Terribly sad state of affairs for the Christians. The purity of their monotheistic beliefs has been corrupted by satan himself.
@@unicornowner9993 No, Dr. Craig does this in all his debates. It is a prepared statement. He didn't choose to abandon the topic but instead rightly understood that the point of even having the debate is draw people to faith in Jesus Christ.
@@unicornowner9993 yeah yeah yeah.. and Hijab didn’t make a plea to Christian’s as he closed either. Smh… if you guys don’t have twisted standards you’d have none at all.
Besides, we’re still waiting for one of your guys to do a debate with Islam as the topic..
I'm glad that the moderator pointed out how off topic Hijab was.
How delusional and dogmatic of you when Craig moved completely out of topic and you have the audacity to type this.
@@sa-a-9157he raised that topic to show why the Muslims making such arguments against Trinity when the Muslims have similar issues with the tawhid.
Muslims must understand that early Christian believed that Jesus was God
@@sa-a-9157where did lane go off topic huh? No response?
@@sa-a-9157 I see you follow Hijab's school of thinking where being aggressive and insulting is the same as making a good point.
@@chrischristiansen7384 None of the facts I mentioned are or are intended to be insulting. Just pointing out apparent inconsistency!
My favorite part of Islamic apologetics is their big claim is that a 5 year old can understand it. Congrats, your religion is that of a 5 year old
They mean, with their religion a 5 year old can understand how Islamic marriage is.
@@metot1 that’s true. I guess if you’re old enough to pray, they’re old enough to be preyed upon
Islam is easy to understand. Christians are so confused about who or what God is, they just resort to calling him a mystery.
The true Faith is not the one that requires two doctorates in philosophy to understand it.
"Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.'”
Matthew 19:13-14
If God is truly merciful, and Christianity is truly the religion of God, then parents should be able to explain it with ease to their children so their children may accept it as logical and then build a strong relationship with their lord from a young age. If a religion is truly from God, it has to be able to intellectually the farmer as much as the philosopher.
just because he has a differing view on the trinity then most christian’s doesn’t mean the trinity is false, that’s an obvious fallacy that should have been stomped out the minute hijab said it. ridiculous performance
So him inventing his own version of trinity is ok? What about you do you have another version?
No it means, all of traditional Christianity, literally 99.999% of all Christians follow a false understanding. Only about 10 people in the world follow true Christianity, that's if you think Craig's position is tenable.
Yes, when trying to comprehend God, I’m sure different views can come up. Some make sense more than others…
If God was completely and easily comprehensible, he wouldn’t be all that great would he?
So saying Jesus is created vs uncreated is reasonable discourse?@@nomen6
Meh@@abrarbiswas1239
I’ve never heard a single muslim theologian argue for their faith in a convincing way. They always end up sounding like they don’t truly believe in what they’re saying
It's because Islam didn't grow through logic they grew through subjugation and childbirth
The irony of a Christian saying this,😂
Really!
And trinity is a compelling concept? Is the God of Moses the same God Christians worship?
It’s called confirmation bias. It’s also called living in echo chambers.
You should step out sometime…
Hijab's complete inability to move beyond the limitations of the physicalized analogies into the principles behind them was something to behold.
u accept that god is like a 3 headed dog?
Hijab looks like an angry bird.
You're a weasel
😂
An angry loon.
And that’s what y’all do insult when u cant debate 😂😂
This is disgusting. Attack the Argument or in his case attack the personality. Not this.
With their tone of voice anyone can say who is the Christian and Muslim
It's crazy!!! Muslims are always angry and arrogant. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
Indeed, one appears like a subdued eunuch, while the other resembles a jealous and enraged dog. This is great stuff, better than professional wrestling promos
Hijab lost 15 minutes in and then buried his head in his notes
Edit: 16:40 mark to be exact. Hijab was made speechless 😶
At least in Islam god didn’t die
@@1sosukeaizen1in Islam your god is Satan, not sure how it could get worse. Trying to get people to doubt Jesus, Islam is from hell.
@@1sosukeaizen1 God didn't die in Chrisitanity either simpleton.
In the first 15 minutes he exposed Dr. Craigs lack of knowledge in Islam and the fact that he does not believe in the trinity as the majority of Christians believe in stop the cope bro 😂
@@1sosukeaizen1 Only in your head does what you typed make any sense.
Mr. Hijab’s continuous attribution of human tendencies to God was the major miscommunication in this discussion. The position that “because physical things cannot coexist and be 100% responsible for the creation of the same thing” is equating God to humanity which is obviously an unresonable connection to make, no matter which side of this debate you’re on.
May the Lord our God Jesus Christ save all Muslims who may be watching this. In the mighty and precious name of Jesus Christ, amen. 🤍✝️
What you mean "the lord our god Jesus christ"❓️⁉️🤔🤔 So the father is not the "ONE TRUE GOD" according to you , apparently ⁉️‼️🤔🤔
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - There is a direct correlation between the Trinity (God), the incarnation (God’s Word) and human beings (God’s image). To understand this correlation we need to understand the 3-in-1 mystery. The evidence is all around us. There’s 3 steps to making a meal is made there are three parts: the recipe, the ingredients, and the preparation. There are 3 branches of government: the legislative branch (to make law); the executive branch (to enforce law); and the judicial branch (to interpret the spirit of the law). There are 3 types of knowledge; what you know is your experience; what you think is your reasoning; and what you believe is your intuition. There are 3 kinds of modesty: being chaste; being humble, in speech; and being shy, in action. There are 3 sources of people: the world (what you hear 🙉); the flesh (what you see 🙈); and Satan (what you speak 🙊). There are three parts to TIME and CHANGE: the past, what something was; the present, what something is; and the future, what something will be (see Revelation 1:8). These are just some of the fingerprints of the Trinity.
The Formula for the Creative Process reveals the details of the 3-in-1 mystery. First, is the mental idea; second, is the physical material; third is the spiritual action of bringing materials together to make something new. These mental, physical and spiritual realms of existence (see John 3:6) are found in making a meal 🍽️ (recipe, ingredients, and process or preparation). All of these things in the Creative Process is evidence or fingerprints of the Trinity. The Christian religion is the only one that has revealed these mysteries demonstrating the correlation between God, God’s Word, and God’s image.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - Human beings are the only creatures God has made with a mind, body, and soul. We are created in the image of the Holy Trinity (see Genesis 1:26).
Essence of people: Mind + body + soul = 3 distinct parts.
Existence of people: Human x living x being = 1 person.
Essence of God: Father + Son + Holy Ghost = 3 Persons.
Existence of God: All-knowing x all-powerful x ever-present = 1 God.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - HYPOSTATIC UNION:
It is a great mystery and if a soul seeks the truth they’ll find it. The answer to the question is the hypostatic union. This means the joining of Christ’s divine nature to his human nature. What are these?
Human essence: mind, body, soul.
Human existence: human, living, being.
Divine essence: all knowing, all powerful, ever present.
Divine existence: Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
We are created in the image of the Trinity (read Genesis 1:26). Human beings are the only creatures God has made with a mind, body and soul. Spirits don’t have a body, plants 🌱 and animals 🦈don’t have a mind.
The scriptural “type” of incarnation is the objects in the Ark: the Ten Commandments, the manna and the staff of Aaron represented the mind, body and soul of Jesus in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
This shows the harmony between the Trinity (God), the Incarnation God’s Word) and human beings (God’s image).
Amen 🙏🏽 . One day Muslims, Jews and the whole world 🌍 will become Christian. However, there’s going to be a terrible chastisement first. Pray 🙏🏽 and repent.
Praised be God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit - Holy Trinity, one God.
Three*
@@sabrisabtu2214 three persons, one God... foolish mohammaden
Where can we read that in the bible❓️⁉️🤔🤔
@@sabrisabtu2214 - Human beings are the only creatures God has made with a mind, body, and soul. We are created in the image of the Holy Trinity (see Genesis 1:26). The mathematical equation for this 3-in-1 mystery goes like this:
Essence of people: Mind + body + soul = 3 distinct parts.
Existence of people: Human x living x being = 1 person.
Essence of God: Father + Son + Holy Ghost = 3 Persons.
Existence of God: All-knowing x all-powerful x ever-present = 1 God.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf - it’s scattered throughout like a million piece puzzle 🧩. Many Christians don’t recognize them when they read it. You seem humble enough with a desire for the truth. It is a great mystery and if a soul seeks the truth they’ll find it. The answer to the question is the hypostatic union. This means the joining of Christ’s divine nature to his human nature. What are these?
Human essence: mind, body, soul.
Human existence: human, living, being.
Divine essence: all knowing, all powerful, ever present.
Divine existence: Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
We are created in the image of the Trinity (read Genesis 1:26).
Please pray 🙏🏽 that I get my two manuscripts published. The first is The Fingerprints and Signature of God: Recognizing the Trinity through the Formula for the Creative Process. It reveals the evidence of the Trinity everyone sees every day but doesn’t recognize. It also reveals the correlation between the Trinity (God), the Incarnation (God’s Word), and human beings (God’s image and signature).
Hijab compares God creating with a woman giving birth.
That's literally how God gave birth to himself.
@@CostcoChicken You're a weirdo
@@christianmalik9996 did God not give birth to himself through a Jewish girl?
Like WLC comparing god to a dog and a cat
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
Thank God for Dr. Wilhelm Craig. ✝️ the patience he shows is powerful.
Christ is KING
Yes, He is. Amen
Jesus was prophet and massiah for jews only 🙏
But not God
@@ABC123jd Yes, He is God.
@@evidencebasedfaith6658 No, he's the son of God who has a God.
Can’t wait for DW and AP to respond to this one and I haven’t even started yet
I think AP is doing that in a few hours
Lmao
@@goldie862 is it scheduled?
@hamasathecold7842 I think it's going to be right here on this channel actually, at 8 eastern time (in about 15 minutes)
It takes an atheist and a liberal rambling on for you to feel secure in your faith what is a joke lol
Sooooo that went about as well as I expected.
Yeah. God is still One.
@@sadatanwar7611 Agreed.
@@sadatanwar7611 no one says God is three dumbass😂
In 3 persons
Listen to your prophet that said you have to believe in the injeel, the holy book that jews and christians posessed AT THE TIME OF MOHAMMAD.Which we all knos is the same bible we have today because its the same one that was found in numerous places (dead sea scrolls etc.,)
Dr Craig's willingness to debate Mohammed Hijab is a testament to his Christian humility. Mr Hijab is not qualified to engage in this debate.
Hijaba the Hut got humiliated once again. These last two months for Dawah have been brutal.
wake up from ur projection/wet dream
@@Taha-Aamamou Take your own advice and cope harder.
@@nyctom08 Copium keeps the delusion alive! That three-headed dog myth analogy, was comedy gold!
@@Gurutruthspeak Not as funny as your two right handed gimp with one shin. That's comedy platinum !
Not as funny as your two right handed god with one shin that prays to pd file !
Islam taking L after L, who is going to break this losing streak?
Stop being delusional and then u will realize the "losing" is actually winning streak
Not one of them
@@MEGA1FILMcope
@@MEGA1FILMcopium
Churches are empty, mosques are full with a hundred times more reverts. Please tell us how Islam is taking Ls.
Hijab on "people knowing who was better" (talking about himself) ... is like Orwellian (1984) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
- George Orwell, 1984
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@@bbab664 Your analogy is just ... my goodness. 😀
Please stop talking about "basic logic". You have no clue what that is.
@@bbab664 Why should God be like anything else in creation? Use basic logic.
@@3339ty Because our God is personal God (i.e. He is not a distant God like Allah) wants relationship with us because He loves us (humans) and that's why He wanted us to be in His likeness.
And this is not an assumption, He told us million times over.
@@MultiSky7
The most logical analogy for Christian God is a three-headed dog it seems , since no Christian has uttered a word againsy it. I will use it from now on.
Atheist here. I got my popcorn ready and….start.
As an atheist (or someone who has definitely trouble with believing) I'm still rooting for Craig
Why Muslims in Muhammad hijab channel cheering like Muhammad hijab won the debate ??.
Because they lead with deception & ignorance. It really is all they have. And it's scary actually, as that level of delusion is dangerous.
@@samupon_a_star8258 Same can be said about this comment section, do you see anyone assessing the debate fairly without going to the adhominems? i only see 1 out of 1000 comments. The other 999 comments are just insults to muslims, hijab and islam. But hey, the muslims are lead by deception right, and you guys are lead by the truth. Bravo
He won
@@samupon_a_star8258bruhhhhh
It's u ppl in deception, it's clear as daylight that trinity is polytheism believing in 3 gods and believing that god is a man
As in old testament clearly states in *Christianity debunked*
Numbers 23:19 King James Version (KJV)
God is not a man, that he should lie; Neither the son of man, that he should repent: Hath he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
That is just how most Muslims on the internet are. It's a hive-mind mentality. Most likely, just as with Hijab, people with cognitive dissonance or ignorance can't comprehend the points Dr. Craig is making. I mean, Hijab didn't even understand what causal overdetermination means, and his presupposed rejection of it was the central foundation of his argument. It's an insult to book such a well-polished thinker like Craig with Hijab, an online influencer.
not even mohammad or even allah could explain tawheed. Islam is truly beyond theologically flawed ( philosophically, scientifically, historically and metaphysically) no matter how you slice the cake, it comes out flawed.
Allah is the one who created you, and he provided for you, and then to him we all return soon, so make sure to do good deeds and worship Allah alone and dont ascribe partners to Allah
There u go
Don't forget morally and spiritually bankrupt.
It's pure monotheism.
@WeWillAllReturnToAllah wow u made so much sense, I got to take my shahada now🥴 even the concept of shahada is illogical and moronic..Quran says to not ascribe partners yet yall literally say a moronic proclamation of faith in order to be muslim (which proclaims mohammad along side allah)😒
Also let me ask, how many halal deeds do you have, are you keeping count😭 you do realize that in your own scripture it says all Muslims will be going to hell since noone can outweigh bad deeds, no matter your good deeds. What's hilarious is according to your scriptures no matter how many horrible deeds a muslim did allah still saves you by replacing you with a jew, christian or atheist in your place. How ironic is it that yall have a problem with jesus who is (God in flesh) dying for everyone's sin but yet in your own theology we non-Muslims are your saviors😭(don't you just love ur allahs mercy) It makes you wonder if everyone were to turn muslim then how the heck would allah replace Muslims in hell with😭 it can't get any more moronic then that.
This video did *NOT* strengthen my iman...
lose faith i tell you, IT IS BETTER FOR YOU!!!
😂
@@criss-crossapplesauce274😂
Christians lying just to convince themselves.
Well, you didnt have any in the first place.
Great job Dr. William Lane Craig. You explain very well and with the patience of the Spirit. The Lord continue to bless you
As a Christian Im very thankful to mimi hijab he helped alot of muslims leave islam and accept Christ by his "wonderful" behaviour and debating style 😎🙏..
Hahah keep dreaming 👍
Name on Muslim who left Islam and joined Christianity due to MH? You lier. If you are truthful, prove trinity from Old Testament, new testament is full of fabrication
@@Fundamental_Islam. You'd be surprised how many muslims dislike hijab and have left because of him.
@@issaway and they all contact you? 😂 I have seen plenty of accounts claiming to be “oppressed Iranian” woman but once you open the profile it’s old Bollywood songs in the playlist. Paajeet need to build toilets instead of wasting time on this
@Fundamental_Islam. this is why no one takes you guys seriously. You're too insecure to acknowledge people leave islam
I wish Hijab was a little louder, I couldn't hear him very well
😂🤣😅
@@keitumetsemodipa3012
Turn your hearing aid down. WLC requested he shout because his hearing aid was low on juice.
@@Gurutruthspeak Don't worry bout it, Hijab is always loud
If repeatedly shouting "GOD IS ONE" in your ear with a megaphone would do the trick, brother, I would be willing to do it. May God guide you and all of us.
@@sadatanwar7611 God is one, we agree, it's just a few people who don't think the Trinity is one which is unfortunate but may Allah guide us all
Did Hijab even present an argument? Or did he just continuously state that Dr Craig's views are "untenable" and that "a child could debunk them" over and over again, without he himself trying to do so?
I mean there's an argument here - 28:30
Adrian must be dumb
The Muslim guy’s points were so absurd ..dr Craig didn’t even have to bite the bait. CHRIST IS KING ✝️ (and GOD)
Buddy Craig couldn’t defend the trinity for the life of him, you must of watched the wrong debate lol
Lol the Dr was distancing himself from Trinity whenever Hijab pressed him. He even denied tomas aquanes's view of Trinitarianism which is followed by almost all Christians today
Note this: This marks the beginning of Christians returning to Islam or converting, as many find the concept of the Trinity logically incoherent. The leading debater has failed to justify it. May he also be guided to Islam. Ameen. Your brother from India, occupied Kashmir
Trinity wasn't defended properly. WLC lost for certain.
Yup WLC knocked this out of the park. Easy work. The abdools coping in the comments is proof of how easily he won.
We need to see a Debate between Jake The Muslim Metaphysician and William Lane Craig!
Thanks God for the millions of Muslims who are coming to Jesus
Because Jesus died for them to.
You must high 😂😂😂
You must be using some good quality pot to get so high 😅
What parallel universe in the Twilight Zone are you referencing, Frank?
@@Shahidtalkstv iran,albania just the start of it
Amen, Frank! "Reverts" leave at well over 70%. Iran is less than 40% Muslim despite the government being ISIS. The Internet is destroying Islam. People are waking up to the fact that Muslims worship baal & he requires blood sacrif*ces via suic*de and homic*de.
Total Christian victory ✝️
Total christian victory destroying understanding of protestants, Catholics & orthodoxy elders and bringing some different understanding of the new testament.
Dr. Craig is educating this little boy.
@@sEanEtTe24eVA cope harder Lil bro 🤣
If telling yourself that helps you sleep better at night, brother........
@@weebasalways2173 Lool Muslims favorite word “cope”. This ain’t coping if it’s stating facts.
@@sEanEtTe24eVA You are indeed coping, If Craig was born in 15th century Francia he would be burnt alive for heresy.
He also kept deflecting and denying the nicea doctrine, as if it wasn't representative of 90% of christians lol...
@@jamesonthemap1768 lol muslims are obsessed with therapy language 🤣 like i said muslims favorite word is cope but infact I’m simply stating obvious facts.
Now that the Trinity has been dealt with shouldn't there now be a part 2 debate between Craig and Hijab discussing the Muslim concept of God (Tawheed)?
Muhammad hijab humbled
...the Dr. Craig
Stop lying to yourself
@@LightPr1nceI think this was pretty obvious
all you have is simple statements "Christian W" "Jesus is king" "humbled" "Islam L" so repetitive and of no substance
@@adamek9750 all muslims say is “1+1+1=1” “Rebecca was 3” “Christians believe in 3 gods” “Jesus never said he’s God” “the Bible is corrupted”
Hijab Logic : you have to defend my understanding to the trinity.. 🤦🤦
Yes, this is the sense I was getting. He kept making the point that Craig’s view is heterodox. But who cares? Is it trinitarian? Is it coherent? That’s what matters.
Where did he say that?
He showed WLC view of the trinity is not the orthdox view
Do you believe in the WLC concept of the trinity? Or do you see him as heretic
"Now defend this 3 headed dog analogy" 🤦🤦
@@yassineessid6417 what’s wrong with that? Thats like saying someone wants to know about Christianity to see if that’s the right faith for them and then they throw a similar concept they have of the trinity to hijab, because they don’t get it. Are you now not going to answer and refute his understanding of the trinity to guide him or are you just going to say I don’t have to defend your understanding of the trinity? 🤣🤦♂️
@@turkihazemDoes it debunk the Trinity? No.
Former Muslim here. Only about 14 minutes in and gave up but will probably come back and finish watching this. The argument that Quran, Chapter 5, verse 116 addresses Catholic practices of Mary's veneration falls short because both Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians differentiate between veneration and worship. In both traditions, worship (latria) is reserved for God alone, while veneration (dulia) is given to saints, with a special veneration (hyperdulia) accorded to Mary. This distinction highlights that neither tradition includes Mary in the divine triad. Chapter 5, verse 73 says that Allah is not three, making it clear that the Quran’s emphasis was on denying the concept of the Trinity. This leaves the central issue unaddressed: why would the Quran focus on an erroneous representation of Christian belief, rather than accurately critiquing the Trinity, a core doctrine that was well established in the Universal Church, since at least 325 AD.
Doesn’t make a difference. Main argument is don’t take anyone or anything created by Allah beside Allah as your God
@@Fundamental_Islam.Lol are you that dumb? He just told you that the Christians despite the veneration of Mary don’t take her as god.
@@Fundamental_Islam. Doesn't make a difference? Of course it does. Whoever wrote your Quran clearly didn't even know what Christians believe so it can't be God's Word because God knew Christians don't worship Mary.
Simply cuz worship in Islamic sense doesn't necessarily means that the doer intends it to be worship....
Eg
Once while Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was reciting this Verse, 'Adi bin Hatim said, "O Allah's Messenger! They do not worship them (i.e. the rabbis and monks)." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "They certainly do. [They (i.e. the rabbis and monks) made lawful things as unlawful and unlawful things as lawful, and they (i.e. Jews and Christians) followed them; and by doing so, they really worshipped them]."
(Narrated by Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi, and Ibn Jarir)
Bravo 👏 excellent summary.
This verse was shared this morning in my church and two things immediately came to mind: triangles and trinity.
Ecclesiastes 4:12
Though one may be overpowered,
two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken
A gift 🎁 for your faith. There is a direct correlation between the Trinity (God), the incarnation (God’s Word) and human beings (God’s image). To understand this correlation we need to understand the 3-in-1 mystery. The evidence is all around us. There’s 3 steps to making a meal: the recipe, the ingredients, and the preparation. There are 3 branches of government: the legislative branch (to make law); the executive branch (to enforce law); and the judicial branch (to interpret the spirit of the law). There are 3 types of knowledge; what you know is your experience; what you think is your reasoning; and what you believe is your intuition. There are 3 kinds of modesty: being chaste, in dress; being humble, in speech; and being shy, in action. There are 3 sources of people: the world (what you hear 🙉); the flesh (what you see 🙈); and Satan (what you speak 🙊). There are three parts to TIME and CHANGE: the past, what something was; the present, what something is; and the future, what something will be (see Revelation 1:8). These are just some of the fingerprints of the Trinity.
The Formula for the Creative Process reveals the details of the 3-in-1 mystery. First, is the mental idea; second, is the physical material; third is the spiritual action of bringing materials together to make something new. These mental, physical and spiritual realms of existence (see John 3:6) are found in making a meal 🍽️ (recipe, ingredients, and process or preparation). All of these things in the Creative Process is evidence or “fingerprints” of the Trinity. The Christian religion is the only one that has revealed these mysteries demonstrating the correlation between God, God’s Word, and God’s image.
Debate Christian Prince, Hijab. Stop running from him!
And Sam and jay dyer
He did already. He would again if he agreed to a neutral platform debate but he hides behind his screen and mutes everyone when they speak. Doesn't sound very brave to me.
@@alphauno6614 watch the debate, Hijab muted CP many times and even ended the call many times
So you're indirectly admitting that he has destroyed Dr Craig lol but don't worry all of them follow the same book and belief system
That princess clown is not worth debating he doesnt even know what debating is lol
Sam Shamoun should be debated Hijab. He can knock this dude down. Craig is too soft of him.
No. Enough with all these “pop culture” Christians.
Mohammed Hijab should have debated a scholar such as Dr. Beau Branson.
@@David-kz2im nahh, Hijab is not compitable to debate people with high education. Their language is different than low education person like Hijab. No wonder when Craig explaining Trinity using philosophy, Hijab became more and more confuse. So in order to debate him is to use a simple and common language, like what Sam Shamoun always use to tackle low minded Muhammadan.
Hijab would never willingly debate sam
Another L for Islam, September isn’t any better than August 😀
Ouch after watching that performance by Dr Craig on defending his version of the Trinity, I'm surprised why he isn't a Muslim already. Who knows, maybe the sincerity of Dr Craig will lead him to Islam before you.
Lol you have to be ashamed of this debate because Dr Craig distanced himself from your version of Trinitarianism. Trust me this debate alone will put Christians into doubts
@@alphauno6614 No one has that much time on this earth to wait for dr. Craig to convert.
Try something easier.
@@murthe-wise535 Nope, he just stated that there are different views on Trinity and he distanced himself from the view he think is not correct.
Dispute among these views was not the topic of the debate.
@@MultiSky7 yeah and he denied the global view of Trinity. The funniest thing is he compared Trinity belief with dogs lol
One of the best debates I've ever heard. I have been questioning whether or not the son is eternally begotten or not and am going to look to learn more about William Lane Craig's view. I met Tony Robbins a few decades ago and spent three days at his home and for a long time I've felt if I could have a sit down lunch to pick someone's brain, Tony Robbins would be my guy. But for several years now, Dr. Craig would be my first choice as his view on Molinism has impacted me greatly and for me introduced "middle knowledge" and impacted a huge part of my current theology. I was very impressed with Mr. Hijab's research into the Dr. Craig views and was so glad Mr. Hijab was able to keep his cool and not go ballistic as he has in the past on Piers Morgan's show.
I like how WMC frames the Father as the Soul of God as that is an analogy I use, and note that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and Jesus is the Flesh of God. Both the Spirit and the Son have their own wills, yet always submit in harmony to the will of the Father. We are a tri-unity in similar fashion as we have a soul, spirit and flesh and we have internal dialogue where our flesh may be saying one thing but we are at peace when our flesh and spirit are being led by the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ and we submit to the Father in full. As Jesus said when it came to him wanting to avoid the cross, "Not my will but Your will be done."
Dr William Craig is brilliant
Bruh, Dr WLC seemed to believe, in mathematical equation, 1÷X=1, but X=3. I can't wrap my mind around this 😢
@@needmoarcheese , actually, that argument, while entertaining, does not refute the Trinity.
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Remember: the Trinity is defined as three distinct, yet, co-equal hypostases within one divine essence. This argument makes a categorical error; this argument fails to distinguish between hypostases and essence.
Furthermore, there are several other issue to address here.
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Firstly, he Trinity is metaphysical in nature, not mathematical. Math equations are inadequate tools to describe philosophical and theological assertions.
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Second, there is a misapplication of the equation here; The equation "1 ÷ x = 1" implies that x must be 1 because division in mathematics requires that any number divided by itself is 1.
The Trinity, however, treats the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as distinct persons within the same essence and not divisible parts of the same structure.
These persons are, again, distinct, yet, co-equal hypostases within one divine essence; the persons of the Trinity can be distinguished but NOT separated.
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Just for clarification, the Trinity is not “1 divided by 3,” the Trinity is “one God in three persons” and the concept can, therefore, not be reduced to a mathematical formula like the one you described.
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In conclusion, because the Trinity is three distinct, yet, co-equal hypostases in one divine essence, the Trinity is not in violation of the Law of Non-contradiction and is, therefore, not “illogical” or “irrational,” as you suggested in a separate comment.
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Despite the Trinity being, difficult to wrap our heads around, the Trinity is not irrational nor illogical.
@@cuthbertmweemba6850
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
Brilliant in deceiving other to follow him to hell
What I don’t understand is why Hijab kept saying that Craig does not align with more orthodox positions. Who cares? The debate is not whether orthodox views on the trinity are coherent, but whether the trinity is. Craig offers an account of the trinity, one he believes is based upon NT texts, and defends it. Hijab’s burden in the debate is not alleviated by saying Craig’s view is not orthodox, nor is it met through noting that Islamic doctrine has made similar claims. So long as Craig’s view is Christian, trinitarian and not identical to Islam, it makes no difference.
Of course it makes a difference, the point is that Craig deviates from more orthodox understanding, and thus his views are important to understand of the Trinity is coherent from his understanding
@@mattholt2451it doesnt make a difference. Attacking strawmen is a fallacy. WLC being a heretical protestant and not understanding subordination in the trinity is a whole other issue.
@@andreaspapapap7737 which is relevant because the discussion is HIM. His views and interpretations are important, just like if Hijab debated any other apologetics
The trinity is a doctrine. The doctrine, in Christianity, is as follows:
*_"We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father infinite; the Son infinite; and the Holy Ghost infinite. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the Catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity."_*
WLC himself doesn't think this is coherent, hence why he doesn't believe in it. That is why it matters that his views don't align with 99% of modern Christianity.
Let's say WLC is correct and 99% of Christians are going to hell. Your response is simply, _"Who cares?"_ Well, you should be the one who cares.
Let's say WLC concedes the debate and admits the Trinity is incoherent. How many comments do you think we'd see from Christians objecting that his view of the Trinity is wrong? Heretical? Fringe? Is the Muslim debater supposed to refute every iteration of a triune godhead? Where does it end? Is he burdened to show the incoherence of the Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva trimurti as well?
What exactly could he have done in this debate that would cause you to admit he won? Or more importantly, cause you to question your beliefs?
He's saying if the doctrine of the trinity is that essential to salvation and is clearly inferred from the text of the new testament then you can't have only one person adhering to the correct doctrine that for thousands of years the church didn't get and that's a MASSIVE PROBLEM IN ADDITION TO THE LOGICAL INCOHERENCE OF THE TRINITY.
I do applaud Dr. Craig for being able to maintain such composure an patience with Hijab. As for the talking points. I noticed Hijab was quick to dismiss the claim that the Quran was outlining that Allah, Isa, and Mary was the trinity.
[5:116] And when Allah said, "O ‘Isā, son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as two gods, other than Allah'?"
This is further supported by the Quran in earlier passages.
[5:73-75] "Surely Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one god, and if they do not refrain from what they are saying,... The Christ, son of Mary, is nothing except a messenger; indeed, other messengers have gone before him, and his mother is a siddīqah (virtuous person). They were eating the food.
So why does the Quran itself go out of its way to emphasize the humanity of Mary if she supposedly was never divine? The quran is clearly stating that Mary was not divine as she was subjected to human needs. To go further, Muqatil Ibn Sulaiman's commentary on the Quran outlined 3 groups of Christians. As he wrote, Nestorians (Church of the East), who say Isa is the Son of Allah. The Jacobites (Orientals), say Allah is the Messiah. And the Melkites (Byzantines/Orthodox) who say Allah is a third of thee and is a god, and Isa is a god, and Mary is a god.
I think with this evidence, it is safe to say that Hijab is running from the historical position that Muslims had as they did not converse with the Romans about theological doctrine to get a proper understanding of Christian doctrine.
It's really easy to stay calm when you know your opponent has no argument they could possibly pose against you. When God is on your side, how could you ever lose?
If you mean *_Muqatil ibn Sulayman,_* he was known to be a liar. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a Quqatil ibn Sulayman.
But either way, yes the Qur'an does address the false belief of Mary's divinity. Why? Because people believed in it. If you don't, then rather than asserting the Qur'an just gets the trinity wrong, maybe consider the possibility that your beliefs are not the only false beliefs the Qur'an addresses.
There have been thousands of versions of Christianity throughout the centuries. Collyridianism is one example of a sect that did believe Mary was a goddess. Granted, scholars are still debating its existence, but it was a church father who first wrote about it. Any guesses *_where_* he said it existed? Arabia.
Regardless of whether this particular example ever existed, not everything is about you. There are plenty of verses that refute your preferred flavor of Christianity as well.
What I find interesting, is how people want to talk about their misconceptions of the Qur'an "getting the trinity wrong", yet none of these people want to talk about WLC "getting the trinity wrong", which is far more relevant to the topic of discussion.
@@sunwukong32 You are talking such non-sense. Why would the Quran expose the wrong beliefs of a tiny christian cult, who saw Virgin Mary as God, when the Quran should expose the supposed changed Injil, which says that the Trinity consists of God the Father, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit. The Quran in 5:116 should have exposed exactly this belief, which was believed by the majority of the Christians at the time of Muhammad, but instead, it's talking about Jesus and Mary as two Gods besides Allah, which just makes no sense. Islam did not understand the religion of the apostolic early church fathers.
@@sunwukong32 So why is it that this an objection to the trinity in the Quran? If I was to create a polemic against Islam, I don't base it off the Baha'i faith. Conversely, you as a modern Muslim would you base your polemic against Christianity by using Mormonism. So why is the Quran dedicating multiple verse to create a polemic against Collyridianism which was a women's only movement that existed in the 4th to 5th century, if it did at all? The main reason we only know about them is because Epiphanius condemned them, there is no other historical trace of them by name. Finally, here group dissolved 100 years before Mohamad was alive. So again, why is there a polemic against an ultra-fringe group (that may not have existed) that was not active for 100 years at least?
Next, where does Islam condemn the Holy Spirit to be part of the trinity? At no point does the Quran ever go into the detail of the Spirit, which is the actual 3rd person of the trinity. You as a Muslim have no real answer to God giving his spirit to Moses, and then spreading that same spirit to the 70 elders.
Numbers 11:25 Then the Lord came down in the cloud, and spoke to him, and took of the Spirit that was upon him, and placed the same upon the seventy elders; and it happened, when the Spirit rested upon them, that they prophesied, [h]although they never did so again.
Numbers 11:29 Then Moses said to him, “Are you zealous for my sake? Oh, that all the Lord’s people were prophets and that the Lord would put His Spirit upon them!”
While on the subject, we should take about Pentecost as The Holy Spirit came down upon the Apostles. They had tongues of fire rest on them and when the Apostles spoke, all could hear them in their own language.
But we can keep going with the OT
Genesis 6:3
Then the Lord God said, “My Spirit shall not remain with these people forever, for they are flesh. So their days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
Isaiah 44:3
For I will give water to the thirsty who walk in a waterless place. I will put My Spirit upon your seed and My blessings upon your children.
Isaiah 48:16
"Come ye near unto Me, hear ye this: From the beginning I have not spoken in secret; from the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord GOD has sent me, and His Spirit."
Joel 2:28
“After this it shall come to pass that I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh;
God identifies "His Spirit" as himself (Gen 6:3 My Spirit). It is not a creation from him, it is God. Your supposed polemic falls flat when you can't accurately describe what the Ruh is and the Shekhinah Glory and how it rested on the Ark or filled the temple.
@@mastermiller2944 I'm going to suggest you save your time and energy in these responses in case you plan on going back into preacher mode. The Bible is a collection of books authored by men. It holds no authority or credibility in our paradigm, so it makes no sense to hold up a book you (Christians) wrote yourselves and say, _"Well how does God explain this??"_ Hopefully you can understand our position regarding this.
He doesn't need to explain your book when you had no authority to write it in the first place.
As for Collyridianism, I never said this was the sect that was intended as the audience of these verses. Think critically for a moment. How many "Christians" do you have today who belong to no church, no denomination, and they have random heretical beliefs that they've picked up from random places, and believed it all just because they liked it? There are "Christians" right now who believe Jesus was a mushroom. The point was only that the belief existed in the area. Collyridianism was called that because of (and defined by) their practice of making these cakes for Mary. If that particular sect who baked the cakes no longer existed, it doesn't mean people stopped worshiping Mary. Don't you think the Sahaba who converted from Christianity would have something to say if the Qur'an was describing a Christianity that didn't exist?
You're presuming to tell God how He should have addressed your false belief. What difference does it make whether he specifically outlines your version of the Trinity or not? And again, why is this of more concern to you than WLC saying your version of the Trinity isn't biblical? If I were Christian and believed Islam to be false, I would be infinitely more concerned with one of the greatest Christian thinkers and debaters leveling an accusation of blasphemy at 99% of Christianity.
But I digress. Whether you're a trinitarian, unitarian, Mormon, or anything other than Muslim, the Qur'an has told you in no uncertain terms that your belief is false. If the Qur'an is truly from God, are you going to stand before Him on judgment day trying to hide behind the excuse that he didn't specifically say your version of the Trinity was false? When He told you explicitly, He has no son and He is not one of three (whether that be beings *_or persons)?_*
I doubt that would get you very far.
So great to see a strong black independent muslim woman standing up for her fallacies
Hijab believes the louder he speaks the more right it makes him
But he is right
@@alexsmith2766 If he's right, he should be able to explain. Usually people resort to shouting, because their arguments are weak. MH believes in a god with 2 right arms, heaven-located as a physical being, but yet omnipresent, so that is illogical and cannot fit "tawhid", since Islamic Allah would need multiple concurrent forms. The Quran also has references to the Spirit, that are reinterpretted usually as Jibril, but those re-interpretations don't all work. Quran author was much confused or it was a rambling compilation ?
Go complain to a loud italian. Criticizing the image or perception instead of the content. An empty emotional argument.
It’s so charming to see WCG !!!! I feel like I went through all of his content on TH-cam but seeing him now is the best !!! I hope he does more content although I am subscribed to his channel :,)
25min in and Moh Hanjob is still explaining to Greg, what Greg believes
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@@bbab664yes it’s called a company and they all in one unity
It is outlandish humility in the first place that made Dr. Lane Craig to agree to debate this debase arrogant fellow.
This debate is basically Hijob talking loudly and poorly asserting to Craig what Craig believes
@@Seraph_888
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@@bbab664and now you do the same as hijob and poorly assert
DR. Craig did a good job standing firm on Trinity. I think Hijab approach the persons of the Trinity as though they are separate Gods, as if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not one being even one God.
He thinks the trinity is tritheism, so he's misrepresented the trinity by default, muslims always do this to make a case against the trinity and make the claim that trinitarians don't worship one which is false.
Can 2 person made same car for 100% each??? Or 3 ppl made 1 plane for 100% each??
Or, if thay have separate will,how can u claim that rhay cant disagree? U must prove it, or claim is fals(thay dont have different will or thay can disaggree...thats comon sens).
Use basic logic, God gived us that for a reason!
@bbab664 Yeah, it's called one company, one goal. Those in that company all work with a common goal and complete it. God is one God, so if Father, Son, or Holy Spirit do something, God does that thing by his own divine power
@@EarthenVessel22all the ppl in the company are different ppl,, they may be one company but different ppl
Different wills
@owaissheraz Yes, the people have to align their wills to become one accord. Yet I believe God is one God and Father, Son and Holy Spirit have the same divine will
Hijab sounded like a snake oil salesman eho just blabbers things which he know rather than understanding the argument and position taken by Dr Craig. Such an embarrassment.
You yourself can be a father to a son, a son to a father and a friend to others at the same time without contradicting yourself
Hijab insisting you have to defend my caricature of the Trinity.
About 10 people in the world follow Craig's version of the trinity. He threw you all under the bus and you don't even realise it.
@@scaryjokerCare to explain how Craig threw us Christians under the bus?
@@scaryjoker Being in majority doesn't make you right.
Show me one person that is born without mind, body and soul or that can exist without either of these 3 manifestations.
I'll wait.
@@MultiSky7 My mind is NOT the person. My soul is NOT the person. My body is NOT the person.
This is the complete opposite of what the Trinity states. Father, Son, Spirit IS God
@@scaryjoker Every single one of them is a manifestation of you. Your mind is you, your body is you, your soul is you - they make one WHOLE you.
These manifestations are distinct from one another, neither one is superior over the other 2, yet they are intertwined and inseparable, and because them being inseparable, that proves that either in its nature is whole (in terms of importance - you can't live without either of them).
Hijab: he doesn’t believe the same as other Christians
Craig: that’s correct
Hijab : he doesn’t believe the same as other Christians
Craig: that’s correct
Hijab: say you don’t believe the same as other Christians
How dense is hijab?
with out lies Islam dies you muslims are doomed
Is that all you got from the discussion?? Rewatch it and pay attention
How dense is the viewer who cannot appreciate the strategy of Hijab *first* establishing that *both* he and Craig agree that the Trinity *as understood by the vast majority of Christians today* is incoherent. That was step one. Did you watch the rest of the debate? Hijab *did* put forth arguments for why the Trinity (even as understood by Craig) is incoherent. If you don't agree with his arguments, that's one thing. It's another to pretend that Hijab did not put forth arguments that are relevant to the topic.
Common Muslim L
Why do moderators always ruin a good flowing debate. Cameron just had to cut Craig off near the end there? Really?