Love the fact that you include time marks in the "show more" section. I watch the video start to end the first time, then go back and rewatch sections that have picked my interest. With time marks no need to use the "scrubby" slider doing the hunt and seek. You always provide a wealth of information in your videos. Was turned on to you by a former Death Valley workshop attendee a couple of years ago. Might add that Tuesday Office Hours was/is a great learning experience from my point of view.
Great content Hudson. I went with the LS-364C and LB-60 leveling head from Leofoto. For reference, their US factory store (super-photo-gear) on the usual auction site sells the tripods new/used and Gary is really wonderful to work with. The LS-364C is a little more sturdy and maybe a 1/2" taller, with the LB-60 leveler. Like the Kirk leveler, it has a collar to adjust the level which I really like over a set screw. This however is a 1lb heavier solution coming in around 2kg (4.4lbs) s for the tripod/leveler. I think your solution is excellent for the ultimate lightweight rig.
Yes, I purchased a pair of those legs last year. I paired with the Leofoto BV-10M (you can also get the Arca Swiss variation). This fluid head is $175 on Amazon compared to the Acratech which is $417.
Once I used a Wimberley gimbal I NEVER wanted to use a ball head again. I actually use it for everything, not just long glass. Primes, point and shoots, binoculars, spotting scopes, camcorders, the works. Only recently I became interested in panos so got the Acratech. Wow. Between these two heads, and either leveling bases or leveling tripods, I'm covered. Hudson is dead on correct.
Received my Leofoto 324c today. Bought it based on it ranking quite high on the center column stability tests. Im really blown away by the value so far. Im 5'9 so it fits me very well. Thanks for showing us this brand.
Why did you choose the Kirk Mini Leveling Adaptor ($180 on Amazon) when the Leofoto LB-60 Leveling Base Half Ball Quick Adjust Horizontal Head that comes with the Leofoto Tripod you featured can be purchased separately on Amazon for only $82.99. I opted for the Leofoto leveling base and it works great on my Gitzo tripod.
Hudson, your recommendation for the 284CEX was spot on. I just got mine from B&H and I'm very impressed with the quality and everything about it. The carbon fiber and leg locks are just like my Gitzo 2531 when it was new, if not better. It will be perfect for travel, hiking, and to use with my Z50 I have on order.
I especially love that the head isn't a damn ball gimbal, which is frustrating to adjust with 2 simultaneous axes. Decoupling pan from tilt with separate locks is much better to control! Also, it appears to be all metal; plastic pieces can't take the stress of high locking forces often used with unbalanced setups as with long lenses.
I recently got a leofoto 324cex with integrated leveling base, i got it with their bv-10 fluid head. Not super lightweight but so far i like it for my setup. Only piece that seems weak is the lock knob screw for panning. It is a 12.9 class screw so we'll see. Came with a arca style base unlike a manfotto.
The big key is not to over-torque it. I think that's a natural inclination of too many people. I find the smaller 284's leveler locks down my 500 PF lens on the panoramic head just fine with a light twist. I can't imagine carrying this light tripod with such big lenses in practicality. I'd have my 79" tripod with the half ball leveler.
Thanks Hudson! I appreciate your review of this equipment and providing info on Leofoto. I was already in progress of ordering the Acratech pano head and decided to go with the LS-284CEX. I was initially concerned about the maximum height and sturdiness of the Leofoto , but I'm very happy with the size and overall weight of the complete tripod. Perfect set up for travel/hiking and individuals that are 6' tall. Solid review of these great products.
Great video Hudson! It's always nice to hear your thought process behind the decision of picking up something like this tripod for example, so different from other channels, honest, to the point, relating to your own experiences in the field and well thought out reasoning about why choosing this or that and what are the advantages and compromises. I wish this approach was more spread out in the TH-cam community. Keep up the good work! I wish I could attend one of your workshops but being in Scotland it comes with a tasty premium to get there... someday I hope! Take care!
Hi Hudson. Congratulations on finding those Leofoto legs! For my current X-T3 (and hopefully future Z7), Though maybe a bit too small (height) for your needs, I found that Leofoto makes an amazing travel tripod, AND it includes a fantastic ball head with one feature that I've not found INCLUDED on any other ball head...namely, a panoramic head! This allows the single ball head to function as a pano head, plus, if you swing it into the notch, turns the pano head into a "poor man's " gimbal head! (Max payload = 22 lbs.) Also, another feature of this tripod/head combo, is that the knobs/controls on the ball head each have a different shape and texture (ALL metal, CNC aluminum)! Simply ingenious design, because it eliminates the possibility of inadvertently loosening the wrong knob!! Why ALL ball head manufacturers don't do this is beyond me...actually, probably because of design and manufacture costs! In any case, this Leofoto LN-254CT Tripod is awesome...10X carbon fiber legs, included quality metal spikes (with rubber gaskets), included handy carabiner allen tool, and a very nice carrying case. Well worth $380, IMHO.…BTW, while not "required" on this superb tripod, I also use an Acratech Leveling Base 41112, which adds another 1.8" in height. To your point about not favoring tripods with "skinny leg sections", I totally agree! That's why I'm amazed at all the praise around the PD travel tripod! While I do admire some PD products for their high-quality, i.e., the PD Slide Strap, I just don't get their travel tripod design, as besides the thin legs, one cannot do a level horizontal pan with it! IMHO, its' ONLY raison d'etre is the compact design. For my needs, being a sharpness and detail fanatic, I could care less about compact design...I'd rather have a solid, robust tripod that functions superbly for a landscape and product photographer, such as the aforementioned Leofoto LN-254CT! Thanks, for your always interesting videos, and Be Safe!
Leofoto is making absolutely awesome gear. The only ballhead I like anymore is the acratech GXP which is 1 pound, holds 50 and has all those features you mention, but I"m still frustrated as hell when I want to pan level with the camera tilted. No ballhead can do that, and I can't live without it. Except for a backup head to use on a slider and star tracker, I can't abide ballheads ever again. I just curse at them non-stop if I have to use them these days.
Love your videos !! And the bike tape tip is one of the best ever !! I can't live with out it now 👍! Thank you I noticed you use the pano hesd like I do. Oriented with the pan stop on the inside . Only the zero mark is on the opposite side for pan. Which makes the 360 mark where I would prefer the zero mark. Do you know if the head is able to be dis assembled and swap it 180 ? I know that sounds confusing , but I think you know what I am taking about . 🤙
The Acratech head doesn't seem to be available in europe :( What do you think about Manfrotto MVH400AH or Leofoto VH-30 as an alternative? Both are less than 1lb and cheaper then the Acratech. I'm a bit worried about the stability of the Manfrotto one. Btw thank you for contributing to the photo community, your videos are extremely helpful!
Awhile back I was inspired by one of your first videos introducing your fluidhead tripod preferences to put together my own pan/tilt/level combo with carbon fibre. At 5lbs (and with a springloaded hook for counterweight and option to detach into monopod), I chose the Sirui T-2205SK tripod with LE-60 level adapter and L-20S pan tilt head. A budget alternative just under 500 USD (before shipping, from various ebay sellers)!
Hudson, would the 500AH Manfrotto head be too big for this tripod? Z6ii with 24-200 lens will be max load. I'm old. I need light stuff. "Really Light Stuff" :)
Thank you so much for this...I shoot a weird combination of landscape, surf action, flowers and recently wildlife and birds with my Sony mirrorless cameras and was looking for a "one head to rule them all" for the Benro carbon fibre tripod legs I already had on order. Already have a Wimberley MonoGimbal which I absolutely love, but didn't feel like a tripod gimbal was a good investment as I would need another head for landscape. Thanks to your vid I ended up with an Accratech pano head and large levelling base....was lucky to find one of each in stock on Amazon!! Yay - have a good feeling this system will banish my long-lasting dislike of tripods!!
Glad to see you discovered Leofoto tripods, I too wanted a lighter system for travel & long hiking. 2 of my 4 are Leofoto, and I have the same set up you demo-ed from Leofoto with the Acratech Pano Head when I didn't want to lug the Manfrotto fluid head & my big Tripod. Really can say I am very happy with both setups. A big thank you for turning me onto the Manfrotto fluid head . That mini leveling adapter looks sweet, may ditch my full size one. Have you tried it with the Manfrotto fluid head, how does it work with it, and is it 15 degrees of leveling like its big brother ? Always great coherent and precise content always.
Leofoto make some very good gear indeed and it's good to see others promoting the brand. I have the LN-404C and I couldn't recommend it highly enough. Even though it's large, on its own it isn't that heavy, but holds a ton and goes high enough to just about get aerial shots (2.4m from the ground to the top of the fluid head). And it appears that, like me, you've converted the Manfrotto 501 plate to accept an Arca Swiss clamp.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I couldn't agree more about fluid heads for stills photography, rather than just video. When I started doing video some years back, I got my first fluid head and it became the only head for stills work as well. If I'd only known about fluid heads years back, it would have saved on some expensive ball heads and gimbals.
The LeoFoto has tripod where the bowl is not inserted. Would it make sense to purchase the LeoFoto leveling base separately to use with other tripods versus the LeoFoto integrated bowl?
I was originally looking at that exact Leofoto tripod, but didn’t bite the bullet, bought something else. Always regretted it deep down. That combo is perfect, especially for travel. Great content as always!👌
Funny, I've replaced one Manfrotto monopod with a Leofoto monopod already and I'm about to replace my tripod with a Leofoto model too. And I guess a lot of people must be doing that, because some models have become hard to find in stock at dealers.
I use an Acratech GP ball head that allows me to set it sideways and pan and tilt like the pano head, and paired with a Manfrotto tripod with the ability to set the vertical stem, horizontal (sideways) it is a very versatile option. Of course, my primary set up, is with a carbon fibre bento tripod paired with the Manfrotto fluid head. Awesome!
Yeah, I have a GXP that's the only ball I own. I still prefer pan and tilt, but for the star tracker or slider with panos it rocks. No one makes a better ball-head than Acratech. No one.
Hey Hudson - always great content! I like the fact you aren’t insanely repetitive like most other channels and have more useful information/lessons than those others as well. Just a thought. I am more of a video guy but still a hybrid shooter. Have you given any thought to having trips that are oriented for video or hybrid shooters? Could be a fun new approach.
How is the leg angle on the 284-CEX? The Benro in the video at 11:29 seems to have a visibly larger spread. I am contemplating the purchase of a 284-CEX to replace a Benro TMA27C, but Leofoto always tends to skimp on leg angle. I have the 284-C for ultra compact travel, and had to grind down the angle tabs to bring the base angle closer to 25 degrees.
Slightly decreased leg angle nets Leofoto increased height & lighter weight. That's the reason and I'm all for it. I've never felt a reduction in stability in comparison to the Gitzo, Induro or Benro sticks I used for years before. Adding a ultralight stone bag and either hanging a bag or weighting the stone bag more than compensates for any loss of stability. No one else comes close to the innovation Leofoto is putting into their legs and leveling adapters, particularly the CEX combination. If a wider leg angle is all important, then of course look elsewhere. I can tell you definitively that Leo's machining, innovation and quality far exceeds Benro, Induro or Gitzo these days.
Hi Henry. I'm so glad you made this video. I have been trying to build something very similar - a lightweight travel/hiking tripod kit. I've spent way to much time entering details into a spreadsheet and always got hung up at the levelling base. The light ones were always cheap and the one I tried failed in the field. So I am very happy that Kirk is making the mini. I'll be ordering it as soon as I finish typing this. For the tripods I strongly considered the Leofoto options. They do look very good and are well priced but they fell down for me (metaphorically of course) with the narrower leg angles as compared to other brands. The 284CEX also had a longer folded length than what I wanted. So I'm now looking at Gitzo which is on sale right now. For the Acratech head, I personally would recommend the long lens head over the panoramic lens head unless one plans to do multirow panoramas. It's about $50 cheaper and has the same functionality but is missing the y axis degree markings of the panoramic model. Cheers!
th-cam.com/video/Ei8XYK5Cz-k/w-d-xo.html That's the system I really carry whenever possible. This is merely an ultralight setup for those times where the 3.5 pounds extra is do or die. Alpine climbing or multi-day trips, etc... First name is Hudson, but no big deal at all. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hi Hudson. Sorry I called you Henry. You could have called me Kelly! When I was referring to the Gitzo in my message above I was referring to their travellers tripod which is way smaller and lighter than your Gitzo beast.
Great video !! A light carbon tripod like the Leofoto and the Manfrotto MVH500AH would be my 1st choice. I like how a fluid head is so versatile for photos and videos. Yes, ACRATECH and KES levelling system are great products, but you have to spend $417.00 + $180.00= $597.00 where you can you get the MVH500AH fluid head that do everything for $140.00, than you just have to go with a lightweight fast bowl carbon fiber tripod.
True story, nothing to stop that. I would have you check out the Kirk bridge adapter for the 500AH in my links if you don't have it. It's well worth the cost. www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
I got the gitzo level 0 traveller tripod. Was £550 with the gitzo ball head to match. Weighs almost nothing and is solid as a rock. Do want a levelling adaptor and fluid head for it tho.
Hey Hudson, I am going to get a 400mm f2.8 Nikon soonish do you have a recommendation for a safe tripod to use with that weight? I mainly use a gimbal or fluid head with a ball head on my light tripod. My heavy one is aluminium and not good for hiking, like you I’m not small but any weight saved with equipment adds up. Cheers
Very nice setup. Surprisingly it weights exactly the same as my standard tripod with ballhead from Novoflex (Triopod). I like this Acratech head though but man, this thing is expensive.
Acratech makes amazing gear. This was by no means an attempt to build a light setup, just a super versatile, light, tall system with no center column or ballhead. Can't abide either of those things anymore. :-)
Hudson, thank you for sharing your expertise! I’m new to photography and analyzing tripods now. OMG so much to figure out. Actually looking at Gitzo series 2 travel tripod. The only thing I’m not sure of is there are only 2 leg angles…..do you think that’s an issue? Shooting nature, birds, landscape.
I sadly think Gitzo is coasting off a reputation from products made long ago with very little eye to quality today and a very overpriced product. You can see more of my thoughts on tripods at www.hudsonhenry.com/tripods
I've used them for years and I have one to sell. It's great, but it's heavy and with a pan and tilt head or fluid head, I have zero need of it. The PG01 is the only product RRS makes that I like and reccomend these days.
Hi Hudson! I'm from Germany and love your videos, especially the gear videos. One question to you: I am 5,807 feet (1,77 meter) tall. Is the leofoto 284 the right tripod for me, or should I choose the leofoto 324? Which one would you recommend for me? Thank you for your answer.
Hudson, would a Markins Q10 ball head work on the 284CEX or would it be too large in diameter? The base diameter of the Markins is 60mm, while the Leofoto site states that the 284CEX has a 54mm platform. I wasn't sure if the 3mm size difference on all sides would cover up the bubble level on the tripod, rendering the levelling base useless. Thank you.
Great content as usual even being repetitive and updated is captivating. Love this subject on the heads. Your information is the reason I went in this direction. Love my 500. Question: Is that a green screen you're using or a back drop. The trees are very calm! :)
Thank you for this presentation. I was intrigued by the fact that the Acratech head can do multiple row panos without the need for a gimbal-type set up. Quite a saving in weight. Regarding tripods, would you have any comments about the Feisol CT-3372?
Enjoyed the video Hudson! I was in the market for a lightweight, yet sturdy travel tripod. Was going for a Gitzo one, but saw this. I love the leveling head. Thanks again for the content. I’m assuming you are probably all filled up for your Teton workshop? I’ll be sure to go to your website and check it out. Been missing going out so much. Take care, and stay safe.
Hi Hudson !!! ... Greetings from Xalapa, Veracruz. México !!! ... Just a question: I have a MVS500AH like yours ... In an old video you mentioned that you did replace the Pan Knob with a metal one from Kirk Enterprises ... I have being trying to find such knob ... But ... The only one I could find is for MVS502AH !!! ... Is that knob the one you bought for your MVS500AH ??? ... Does it fit well and work fine ??? ... Take care and be safe !!! ...
Quick question about the Acratech head. Does your head’s indexing clamp index in multiple degrees rather than just the 90 degree increments that is advertised on their site? I just got one in and it looks like they’ve completely redesigned the indexing component without any mention on their site (or instructions).
Is you're question about the camp's rotation for l-brackets vs a long lens's foot or nodal rail? It's easy for me to switch orientations and the spider they have to lock it in is the most secure and easy to use that I've yet encountered. I suppose you could set it up on a non 90 degree angle, but you'd have to choose to do so. Squaring up the clamp edge and the top of the head is an easy feel even in the dark.
Are the leg locks also metal or are they plastic? Do you have any concerns about their longevity if they are plastic? I was looking at the Leofoto or something like FLM and it seems that one of the key difference is the metal leg locks on the FLM (assuming these aren't metal as well, they looked to be plastic from photos).
They are composite like the gitzo of old, but better. The old gitzo's never fail and the new metal ones are trash. The leofoto leg locks are by far the nicest and best made I've used. Bombproof, just like the rest of their legs' build.
Quick question. I have an Acratech ball head (a GV2), so I am very familiar with their quality but I have been considering switching to either a Benro S4 fluid head or the Acratech Panoramic Head (like in the video). Weight is a factor, not because I plan on doing long hikes, but because I like to carry all my gear including my tripod in my carry-on. I have a 3rd party leveling ball, so leveling either wouldn't be a factor. Do you feel like you are sacrificing anything with the Acratec or would you still recommend a fluid head?
th-cam.com/video/Ei8XYK5Cz-k/w-d-xo.html Get the 500AH with the Kirk bridge. Much better than the S4 and what I'd carry every time if I could. This is rad for sub-four pounds, but give me the cheaper fluid if I can afford to carry the 7.5 pounds instead. I have an S4 and it's not much lighter, but no-where near the same quality and ease of use.
Great vid as always Hudson. Would you consider the pano head as good for long lens gimbal as the GXP? I primarily do long lens wildlife but would like the ability to do multi-row pano which the GXP can't do. Your opinion would be much appreciated.
The Robus is a great tripod too. Leofoto beat them out for me for big legs. Not sure why Robus seemed to kind of fall off the map. Great product, but the company never responded to email suggestions I sent them. Leofoto responded and built me my dream set of legs. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thanks for the replies! I’ll definitely use your links. I would have went for the long leg Lefoto, but I think if memory serves that wasn’t out yet and I caught your Robus review soon after you published it. I did get the Robus for close to $400 with B&H education discount, and I love everything about it, though I am tempted to sell it and get the Lefoto for the advantages it offers. This ultralight is a sure thing, going to order it up today with your affiliate links.
So what would be the reason for switching to this from your fluid head? Only the weight? They are the same movements but you're losing the smooth fluid.
Winter ski mountaineering, big climbs, or packing a 2nd set of legs. I hope I made that clear in my video. This DOES NOT replace my tall legs with the fluid head. It's just for weight critical missions, or for someone who has limits to what they can physically carry.
Have you looked at the 3 Legged Thing's new fluid head. It comes with arca swiss clamp built in. I think it's about the same price, (give or take a couple of dollars), as the Manfrotto with the Kirk adapter for arca swiss. I know nothing about 3 legged thing products, what kind of quality they are or anything else. It looks pretty interesting though.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Yeah, I have the 502AH and I like it. I just wish Kirk would make one of the arca swiss top plates to fit it like they do for the 500AH. If I get another tripod it will have a either the 500AH or the three legged thing fluid head. Still trying to decide which route would be better.
Would the fluid head that you recommend in other videos fit on this lightweight tripod? I know it would increase the weight by a pound, but I was just curious because I love that fluid head now. Haha
Would you recommend a few bargain tripods that are fairly light but stable in the ~$100 dollar max range? As per my comment, I'm looking for a strong, all metal tripod with separate pan & tilt, fairly tall (I'm 6' 2") with crank elevation & easily adjusted positive locking legs & decent video pan & tilt. Simple design preferred. Thanks in advance!
Oh man. Maybe a used Bogen 301. That was my first good, but heavy aluminum tripod. Ebay will be your friend. You can't really get an easy to use head for 100 even used, but used will certainly be the way to go. I'd urge you to get a Bogen 301 and a Manfrotto 500AH if you can afford it. You'll never regret that head and you can migrate it to another setup later.
Great video! I went for the 225CEX, because I want to carry it under my messenger bag. And really, even their tallest Ranger tripod isn't tall enough anyway. We've been pounding wooden posts into the ground and mounting fluid heads on those before, but maybe partially getting more civilized now :) *I don't understand ONE thing* : Why use that adjustable non-fluid head, when SmallRig makes a functional small and light fluid head that can hold 4 Kilo? It may not match a professional level video fluid head, but it'll beat anything that needs to be tightened and loosened for every change you want to make, no? It weighs no more and at 39 Euros currently on Amazon, I've put one on everything except the one that I have a Manfrotto Head on. If the handle sticks out too far, you can replace it with a wooden teaspoon, after putting to holes into the handle of the spoon...
The small rig is VERY light duty and not nearly as well made as the Acratech stuff. It's just way too light duty for what I do. I think you have to use the Acratech heads to appreciate how incredibly well thought out and machined they are. One of the last truly artisan hand crafters doing this work in the US. 1 pound holds 25 pounds with the pano head. 1 pound holds 50 with the GXP. And they aren't kidding. The independent lock on one side and tension adjuster on the other are so dialed and easy. It's just a precision instrument. You kind of get what you pay for still in that department.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the recommendation! I'm sure its way more amazing, but can I get that under $40? I don't know how much an Acratech Fluid head would cost - going by your high praise, its going to be pretty expensive? (I will check their prices). My A7C with 20mm F1.8G together weighs only 797 grams, so I went cheap for the table tripod and the light weight Ranger tripod so I can complete the tool kit. I know, I've bought a set of things that are uneven in quality and capacity. I do have a Manfrotto Fluid head also, but its heavy and big, And so is the tall iFootage Tripod its on. And it doesn't pack well, it won't go shorter than 75cm, so I will only carry that when the lighter weight stuff won't suffice. One of the SmallRig fluid head is currently employed as a phone holder on my desk. and the other one is on a Leofoto monopod from eBay. But they're also great to hold Microphones: you can change their position without fumbling with anything - one finger!
Hi mate What is your experience with 225CEX? Is it steady enough? Does you recommend it to buy for landscaping? I’m considering it because of insane lightweight, but not really sure about how it will work in field. Can go for 284cex to be safe, but the difference in 1 pound is significant for my opinion. Really will be thankful for your response 🙏
Hi there - I found your channel through this video! The Leofoto looks interesting. Can you confirm which model it is and how tall it can stand, please? Something doesn't quite match up; some of the dealers here seem to say it only goes to 127cm, but if you're 6ft then it looks taller. Thank you Hudson!
It's all at my links in the description Robin. You have to account for the head too. The leveling adapter doesnt reach eye level. The camera does atop the head atop the legs. :) please consider using my links. You'll get the right one and it helps me out. Thanks. Www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thank you; I'll compare the specs with listings here. If I do go for this one I'll see if your link will ship to my location. Thanks again!
any issues with vibration with long and heavy lenses? My Sigma sport 70-200 with a 2x adapter, ef to rf and rp camera...vibrate like crazy on my 3 legged thing Billy
Not a fan of three legged thing gear. I checked them out when building out this setup. This is much much more stable and well made. You get balanced abs so a stone in the bag and it's not moving a bit. However, I'd much prefer my 7 pound system (#1 in my links at www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks) whenever I can. This setup will work fine with even my 500pf, but I can't imagine carrying a big heavy lens in the situations I'm choosing this over my long legs and fluid head. This is my every ounce counts setup for major alpine expeditions or places I'm getting dropped off in a lite plane where they weigh your kit and limit you. :) it's the absolute lightest setup id trust.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks Henry, I appreciate your feedback. I'm a fan of the leofoto products... I have the lh40 ball head and it's the primary reason why I'm looking for light yet damped tripods. Ever worked with FLM? Stuck between these two brands, the Fml gives me a taller tripod, but for about an extra $100.
FLM makes nice gear too. I love this tripods built in leveling adapter. can't imagine going back to working with a ball head. Super awkward and imprecise for anyone who's used a fluid head or pan tilt head. Particularly with a long lens. Do yourself the biggest favor by exploring that angle. ;)
But if you picked up both and used them, you'd have a REALLY hard time sending the Acratech back. They just create perfectly engineered and designed products. Plus they're wonderful people.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the tip on the Arcatech. Thomas Heaton has raved about them, and they are hard to find. I have my eye on one on eBay, but I'd be saving over $100 on the Lefroto. I just ordered a slightly used Leofoto LS 365CEX, so I'm working on setting up essentially what you're using, which is why when I saw this video today, I was really interested to get your take on the rig. I definitely wanted to go with the "bowl head" style tripod, and was unaware of Leofoto until about a week ago when I saw another video with a guy using one. I don't have a big budget, so I've been trying to find a sort of all-purpose tripod rig that's light enough for carrying around for the nature work I do, but sturdy enough for anything else. I do a lot of bird photography, so this seems like the perfect setup. Thanks again, I enjoy your videos, I always get something out of them.
I've used the FS Pro. Not my fave, but then I can't stand ball heads and the FS Pro only exacerbates the problem of not being able to tilt in a level way. That said different strokes for different folks. The Acratech Pano head is anything but flimsy, but this is my ultralight setup, so I'd never put a heavy prime on it anyway. I make that VERY clear in this video. This is the ultralight rig I would take on a backcountry ski mountaineering trip or another packing adventure where every ounce saved matters. I carry a fluid head on a 79" set of legs as my primary rig. That said, I firmly believe Acratech is engineering the finest lightweight heads on the planet. Across their line. If you like the FS Pro, then Acratech's GXP would be the head you'd compare with. Again, I won't use a ball-head except atop a slider or star tracker, but the GXP is my favorite I've ever used and by quite a lot.
Hudson. Great video, thank you.i have been researching Leofoto for quite awhile now, but have waited for reviews on this particular model. I was curious if you had looked at the ls-324cex? It was a few $ more and had a larger leg circumference but only marginal weight difference over the 284cex.
Lew - I own both tripods, for about the past 1-2 years. They are similar heights so the difference is in weight. I also have the RRS TVC-24L which is my tall heavy tripod. The 324 is a better weight for a big lens like a Nikon 200-500. I find I use either the big RRS or the small 284. It pairs well with their small ball head. I will say this - one of the legs came right off when I was twisting a leg lock. I called the number of the unit that shipped them to me in NY and their first suggestion was "have you tried glue?" I epoxied it back in the socket and it's fine now, but what you get with Leofoto is a great tripod, just a hair lower than RRS, but crap support, if you can even locate a phone number (maybe that has changed over the past 6 months or so since this happened?) Also - there's no leveling bulls-eye on the leveling heads of either of these unless they upgraded over the past year. There was a good solid solution on Amazon with a huge bubble and accurate level smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L12RM4Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but it is no longer available. The one I linked to is sort of "upside down" compared to most. The rim points down, so is out of the way of a large head mounting plate. Otherwise, any similar product would likely do. Hope this helps.
I heard that over the past year Leofoto has really upped their game, so I decided to check and see. They have. I've used and owned RRS, GItzo, Pro Media, and a bunch of other legs over the past 10 years. This brand new set from Leofoto is absolutely on par with Gitzo or RRS. No question at all in my mind. Gorgeous machining and attention to detail. I bash gear and I'll report if I have a problem, but I can't imagine it from the quality that exudes from these legs. Oh and the new design does have a bubble built in on the side of the built in level, as well as three set screws to lock in the head (which RRS totally lacks). I'm blown away by the quality. Can't say it enough. They are killing it now. I'm considering dumping my Gitzo and working with them based on these legs and their interest in building an alternative ultra-tall, lightweight 75mm bowl set of legs for me.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hudson, Thanks for the response. I am using a Fuji X-T3 and am about your height. So either 284cex or 324cex would do the trick. I was leaning towards the 324cex as the leg size and angle 24-25 degrees does relate to better stability. I have not seen any reviews for either on The Center Column so it was great to hear your review. BTW, the local disti is in Happy Valley in your neck of the woods (OEC Camera).
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the reply Hudson. In spite of the one issue I had, am still a big fan of Leofoto. In fact, I've been recommending them too. For the money they are a good value, and in some ways they are upping the game as you say. Knowing you you've prolly already unscrewed the collets - the threads don't have any loose parts - no shims to fall out and lose. Also like you I have left claws on all of my pods for years and only remove them when I use rubber feet indoors. My specialty is icy chasms and claws are the best thing for ice imo. You might criticize my choice of head though - an RRS FH-350 fluid head. It weighs 4 pounds, so I don't take it on long hikes, but otherwise I love it to death. It's a real shame thery don't make it any more, but you can still find them used - $$$ btw check out the super lightweight Leofoto DC-282 telescoping center column that simply screws onto the apex plate (or you can put a tiny arca plate on it's bottom to mount right into your head). In a pinch, it gives you about 6-12" of additional reach and weighs only a few ounces. smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CZQZ3SF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks for this video. This same tripod/leveling adapter combo is also sold with a Leofoto BV-10 video head that looks to have a good arca swiss compatible clamp. Does anyone have an experience with the Leofoto BV-10 head? This is obvioiusly for a light weight backpacking outfit that is solid enough to function well.
The bv10 is not in the same universe as the acratech. It's a very illustrative case of getting what you pay for in this case as opposed to tripod legs where the cheaper leofoto are among the best out there. The bv10 has no tension adjustment at all on the tilt, just a lock on each side, it's not smooth and it's not really capable to work with much weight. I sent it right back. The acratech easily locks 25 pounds with a twist and the opposite knob gives you an infinite range of tilt tension adjustment without locking out. It's a 1 pound little gem of a head. They are artisans at Acratech. Call em and ask for the lever clamp with it. No finer lever clamp out there. Please drop my name if you do call them. Really nice people too. :)
What I've discovered is that ultra light tripods do not hold my cameras solidly in place. I'm sticking with aluminium alloy three section tripods. I need reliable stability.
If you watch, you'll see I recommend a stone bag for about $10 that lets you put all the weight you want in very easily on location. Nothing is stiffer than good carbon and these legs are stiff as hell. Put a 20 pound rock in it and it won't vibrate in 40mph gusts.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I'm more likely to be up on a high building photographing. I can hang my camera bag, or a water bottle. But frankly I'd rather the tripod is heavy enough on its own. Carbon fiber tripods have become something of a fetish, but they're not needed.
@@scottweaverphotovideo I sure need them, but I often have climbing, gear, food, winter tent and other gear to also contend with all on my back. My big rig is 7.5 pounds. There's really no reason not to have a stone bag and having used aluminum tripods in the days before I could afford carbon. I can assure you the carbon is stiffer and much nicer to work with. :-)
hi would just like to ask your opinion about your thoughts on the leofoto tripods as never heard about this brand of tripod and im currently looking for a new carbon fibre tripod as currently have a 3leggedthing punks patti aluminium tripod but its a bit heavy so looking for a new one and was looking at manfrotto or benro but then recently went to a local shop and got introduced to the leofoto tripod range what head do u use ith yours and do u use an L bracket too and what camera do u use on your setup
@@AlexVisualMoments96 Hudson uses the Manfrotto MVH500AH fluid head and the Acratech Pano head on his setups. I'd love to see the pictures that you've taken!
Anyone in the market for a tall but light tripod, I would also look at the FLM CP-30 L4 II. It gets 68.3” tall (no center column) while remaining only 3.1lbs. All the same features as the RRS tripods. I have the FLM leveling base and acratech pano head on top and for me, it’s the perfect setup, extremely light without giving up any function.
FLM makes nice stuff. That link is here: bhpho.to/3hVB2Ps. It would pair well with the new 6oz leveling adapter linked in this vid's description. Gotta say though that the new Leofoto gear is insanely well designed and built. I was shocked when it arrived. Since my main 79" Gitzo system is only 7.5 pounds with the 500AH fluid head, I was really working to stay under 4lbs here to give an alternative to the really lightweight set. I considered the setup you listed, but even with the lighter leveler it blew past my limit. I'm really going for light and small for some folks who requested it. I'm usually trying to sell them on a little bit heavier to get taller and more stable. :-)
I think they make fantastic stuff and I'm consistently blown away. That said... I'm a huge fan of Manfrotto's 500AH as my main head and the Acratech stuff is 2nd to none. It's just the best.
Henry, don’t you care that Leofoto brazenly rips off Really Right Stuff??? Now that I think about it, one of their heads is a complete copy of the Acratech pano head. Come on, have some principles or at least have the integrity to tell folks that you’re dealing with a company that deals with counterfeit products.
No no, Leofoto latest stuff is actually more innovative than RRS and nicer in my opinion. Link me an equivalent RRS tripod to this one... Built in leveling adapter? Triple, easily accessed set screws? RRS's accessory leveling adapters don't even have set screws to lock the head in place. RRS is one of the more litigious companies around. They sue any new product developer or importer/reseller even when new designs aren't really close to copies. There are a number of reasons I personally try to avoid using RRS whenever possible.
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Love the fact that you include time marks in the "show more" section. I watch the video start to end the first time, then go back and rewatch sections that have picked my interest. With time marks no need to use the "scrubby" slider doing the hunt and seek. You always provide a wealth of information in your videos. Was turned on to you by a former Death Valley workshop attendee a couple of years ago. Might add that Tuesday Office Hours was/is a great learning experience from my point of view.
Great content Hudson. I went with the LS-364C and LB-60 leveling head from Leofoto. For reference, their US factory store (super-photo-gear) on the usual auction site sells the tripods new/used and Gary is really wonderful to work with. The LS-364C is a little more sturdy and maybe a 1/2" taller, with the LB-60 leveler. Like the Kirk leveler, it has a collar to adjust the level which I really like over a set screw. This however is a 1lb heavier solution coming in around 2kg (4.4lbs) s for the tripod/leveler. I think your solution is excellent for the ultimate lightweight rig.
Yes, I purchased a pair of those legs last year. I paired with the Leofoto BV-10M (you can also get the Arca Swiss variation). This fluid head is $175 on Amazon compared to the Acratech which is $417.
Yes!Ihave the same tripod,discovered Leofoto tripods this year...excellent for wildlife also,without the center column for low angle shots,solid...
Once I used a Wimberley gimbal I NEVER wanted to use a ball head again. I actually use it for everything, not just long glass. Primes, point and shoots, binoculars, spotting scopes, camcorders, the works. Only recently I became interested in panos so got the Acratech. Wow. Between these two heads, and either leveling bases or leveling tripods, I'm covered. Hudson is dead on correct.
Brilliant presentation. Thank you very much.
Received my Leofoto 324c today. Bought it based on it ranking quite high on the center column stability tests. Im really blown away by the value so far. Im 5'9 so it fits me very well. Thanks for showing us this brand.
Why did you choose the Kirk Mini Leveling Adaptor ($180 on Amazon) when the Leofoto LB-60 Leveling Base Half Ball Quick Adjust Horizontal Head that comes with the Leofoto Tripod you featured can be purchased separately on Amazon for only $82.99. I opted for the Leofoto leveling base and it works great on my Gitzo tripod.
Hudson, your recommendation for the 284CEX was spot on. I just got mine from B&H and I'm very impressed with the quality and everything about it. The carbon fiber and leg locks are just like my Gitzo 2531 when it was new, if not better. It will be perfect for travel, hiking, and to use with my Z50 I have on order.
I especially love that the head isn't a damn ball gimbal, which is frustrating to adjust with 2 simultaneous axes. Decoupling pan from tilt with separate locks is much better to control!
Also, it appears to be all metal; plastic pieces can't take the stress of high locking forces often used with unbalanced setups as with long lenses.
I recently got a leofoto 324cex with integrated leveling base, i got it with their bv-10 fluid head. Not super lightweight but so far i like it for my setup. Only piece that seems weak is the lock knob screw for panning. It is a 12.9 class screw so we'll see. Came with a arca style base unlike a manfotto.
The big key is not to over-torque it. I think that's a natural inclination of too many people. I find the smaller 284's leveler locks down my 500 PF lens on the panoramic head just fine with a light twist. I can't imagine carrying this light tripod with such big lenses in practicality. I'd have my 79" tripod with the half ball leveler.
Thanks Hudson! I appreciate your review of this equipment and providing info on Leofoto. I was already in progress of ordering the Acratech pano head and decided to go with the LS-284CEX. I was initially concerned about the maximum height and sturdiness of the Leofoto , but I'm very happy with the size and overall weight of the complete tripod. Perfect set up for travel/hiking and individuals that are 6' tall. Solid review of these great products.
Great video Hudson! It's always nice to hear your thought process behind the decision of picking up something like this tripod for example, so different from other channels, honest, to the point, relating to your own experiences in the field and well thought out reasoning about why choosing this or that and what are the advantages and compromises. I wish this approach was more spread out in the TH-cam community. Keep up the good work! I wish I could attend one of your workshops but being in Scotland it comes with a tasty premium to get there... someday I hope! Take care!
Hi Hudson. Congratulations on finding those Leofoto legs! For my current X-T3 (and hopefully future Z7), Though maybe a bit too small (height) for your needs, I found that Leofoto makes an amazing travel tripod, AND it includes a fantastic ball head with one feature that I've not found INCLUDED on any other ball head...namely, a panoramic head! This allows the single ball head to function as a pano head, plus, if you swing it into the notch, turns the pano head into a "poor man's " gimbal head! (Max payload = 22 lbs.) Also, another feature of this tripod/head combo, is that the knobs/controls on the ball head each have a different shape and texture (ALL metal, CNC aluminum)! Simply ingenious design, because it eliminates the possibility of inadvertently loosening the wrong knob!! Why ALL ball head manufacturers don't do this is beyond me...actually, probably because of design and manufacture costs! In any case, this Leofoto LN-254CT Tripod is awesome...10X carbon fiber legs, included quality metal spikes (with rubber gaskets), included handy carabiner allen tool, and a very nice carrying case. Well worth $380, IMHO.…BTW, while not "required" on this superb tripod, I also use an Acratech Leveling Base 41112, which adds another 1.8" in height. To your point about not favoring tripods with "skinny leg sections", I totally agree! That's why I'm amazed at all the praise around the PD travel tripod! While I do admire some PD products for their high-quality, i.e., the PD Slide Strap, I just don't get their travel tripod design, as besides the thin legs, one cannot do a level horizontal pan with it! IMHO, its' ONLY raison d'etre is the compact design. For my needs, being a sharpness and detail fanatic, I could care less about compact design...I'd rather have a solid, robust tripod that functions superbly for a landscape and product photographer, such as the aforementioned Leofoto LN-254CT! Thanks, for your always interesting videos, and Be Safe!
Leofoto is making absolutely awesome gear. The only ballhead I like anymore is the acratech GXP which is 1 pound, holds 50 and has all those features you mention, but I"m still frustrated as hell when I want to pan level with the camera tilted. No ballhead can do that, and I can't live without it. Except for a backup head to use on a slider and star tracker, I can't abide ballheads ever again. I just curse at them non-stop if I have to use them these days.
Love your videos !! And the bike tape tip is one of the best ever !! I can't live with out it now 👍!
Thank you
I noticed you use the pano hesd like I do. Oriented with the pan stop on the inside . Only the zero mark is on the opposite side for pan. Which makes the 360 mark where I would prefer the zero mark. Do you know if the head is able to be dis assembled and swap it 180 ?
I know that sounds confusing , but I think you know what I am taking about .
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The Acratech head doesn't seem to be available in europe :( What do you think about Manfrotto MVH400AH or Leofoto VH-30
as an alternative? Both are less than 1lb and cheaper then the Acratech. I'm a bit worried about the stability of the Manfrotto one.
Btw thank you for contributing to the photo community, your videos are extremely helpful!
Awhile back I was inspired by one of your first videos introducing your fluidhead tripod preferences to put together my own pan/tilt/level combo with carbon fibre. At 5lbs (and with a springloaded hook for counterweight and option to detach into monopod), I chose the Sirui T-2205SK tripod with LE-60 level adapter and L-20S pan tilt head. A budget alternative just under 500 USD (before shipping, from various ebay sellers)!
Well timed, I’m looking at getting something between my heavy tripod and light one
Hudson, would the 500AH Manfrotto head be too big for this tripod? Z6ii with 24-200 lens will be max load. I'm old. I need light stuff. "Really Light Stuff" :)
Awesome - Acratech is great stuff. Thanks again, Hudson.
Thank you so much for this...I shoot a weird combination of landscape, surf action, flowers and recently wildlife and birds with my Sony mirrorless cameras and was looking for a "one head to rule them all" for the Benro carbon fibre tripod legs I already had on order. Already have a Wimberley MonoGimbal which I absolutely love, but didn't feel like a tripod gimbal was a good investment as I would need another head for landscape. Thanks to your vid I ended up with an Accratech pano head and large levelling base....was lucky to find one of each in stock on Amazon!! Yay - have a good feeling this system will banish my long-lasting dislike of tripods!!
Glad to see you discovered Leofoto tripods, I too wanted a lighter system for travel & long hiking. 2 of my 4 are Leofoto, and I have the same set up you demo-ed from Leofoto with the Acratech Pano Head when I didn't want to lug the Manfrotto fluid head & my big Tripod. Really can say I am very happy with both setups. A big thank you for turning me onto the Manfrotto fluid head . That mini leveling adapter looks sweet, may ditch my full size one. Have you tried it with the Manfrotto fluid head, how does it work with it, and is it 15 degrees of leveling like its big brother ? Always great coherent and precise content always.
I bought a Leofoto myself a few months ago. Love it!
Leofoto make some very good gear indeed and it's good to see others promoting the brand. I have the LN-404C and I couldn't recommend it highly enough. Even though it's large, on its own it isn't that heavy, but holds a ton and goes high enough to just about get aerial shots (2.4m from the ground to the top of the fluid head). And it appears that, like me, you've converted the Manfrotto 501 plate to accept an Arca Swiss clamp.
You should check out: th-cam.com/video/Ei8XYK5Cz-k/w-d-xo.html :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I couldn't agree more about fluid heads for stills photography, rather than just video. When I started doing video some years back, I got my first fluid head and it became the only head for stills work as well. If I'd only known about fluid heads years back, it would have saved on some expensive ball heads and gimbals.
would you recommend fitting the manfrotto 500 head on the lightweight leofoto tripod?
was saving up for the RRS tripod set up but I think I like this setup better. maybe have to look into this. thanks man!
The LeoFoto has tripod where the bowl is not inserted. Would it make sense to purchase the LeoFoto leveling base separately to use with other tripods versus the LeoFoto integrated bowl?
I was originally looking at that exact Leofoto tripod, but didn’t bite the bullet, bought something else. Always regretted it deep down. That combo is perfect, especially for travel.
Great content as always!👌
Funny, I've replaced one Manfrotto monopod with a Leofoto monopod already and I'm about to replace my tripod with a Leofoto model too.
And I guess a lot of people must be doing that, because some models have become hard to find in stock at dealers.
I use an Acratech GP ball head that allows me to set it sideways and pan and tilt like the pano head, and paired with a Manfrotto tripod with the ability to set the vertical stem, horizontal (sideways) it is a very versatile option. Of course, my primary set up, is with a carbon fibre bento tripod paired with the Manfrotto fluid head. Awesome!
Yeah, I have a GXP that's the only ball I own. I still prefer pan and tilt, but for the star tracker or slider with panos it rocks. No one makes a better ball-head than Acratech. No one.
Hey Hudson - always great content! I like the fact you aren’t insanely repetitive like most other channels and have more useful information/lessons than those others as well.
Just a thought. I am more of a video guy but still a hybrid shooter. Have you given any thought to having trips that are oriented for video or hybrid shooters? Could be a fun new approach.
Great tips on the Kirk leveller - thanks Hudson
Thanks for another great video Hudson!
How is the leg angle on the 284-CEX? The Benro in the video at 11:29 seems to have a visibly larger spread. I am contemplating the purchase of a 284-CEX to replace a Benro TMA27C, but Leofoto always tends to skimp on leg angle. I have the 284-C for ultra compact travel, and had to grind down the angle tabs to bring the base angle closer to 25 degrees.
Slightly decreased leg angle nets Leofoto increased height & lighter weight. That's the reason and I'm all for it. I've never felt a reduction in stability in comparison to the Gitzo, Induro or Benro sticks I used for years before. Adding a ultralight stone bag and either hanging a bag or weighting the stone bag more than compensates for any loss of stability. No one else comes close to the innovation Leofoto is putting into their legs and leveling adapters, particularly the CEX combination. If a wider leg angle is all important, then of course look elsewhere. I can tell you definitively that Leo's machining, innovation and quality far exceeds Benro, Induro or Gitzo these days.
Hi Henry. I'm so glad you made this video. I have been trying to build something very similar - a lightweight travel/hiking tripod kit. I've spent way to much time entering details into a spreadsheet and always got hung up at the levelling base. The light ones were always cheap and the one I tried failed in the field. So I am very happy that Kirk is making the mini. I'll be ordering it as soon as I finish typing this. For the tripods I strongly considered the Leofoto options. They do look very good and are well priced but they fell down for me (metaphorically of course) with the narrower leg angles as compared to other brands. The 284CEX also had a longer folded length than what I wanted. So I'm now looking at Gitzo which is on sale right now. For the Acratech head, I personally would recommend the long lens head over the panoramic lens head unless one plans to do multirow panoramas. It's about $50 cheaper and has the same functionality but is missing the y axis degree markings of the panoramic model. Cheers!
th-cam.com/video/Ei8XYK5Cz-k/w-d-xo.html That's the system I really carry whenever possible. This is merely an ultralight setup for those times where the 3.5 pounds extra is do or die. Alpine climbing or multi-day trips, etc... First name is Hudson, but no big deal at all. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hi Hudson. Sorry I called you Henry. You could have called me Kelly! When I was referring to the Gitzo in my message above I was referring to their travellers tripod which is way smaller and lighter than your Gitzo beast.
Do you have a recommendation for a light weight video head?
Great video !! A light carbon tripod like the Leofoto and the Manfrotto MVH500AH would be my 1st choice. I like how a fluid head is so versatile for photos and videos.
Yes, ACRATECH and KES levelling system are great products, but you have to spend $417.00 + $180.00= $597.00 where you can you get the MVH500AH fluid head that do everything for $140.00, than you just have to go with a lightweight fast bowl carbon fiber tripod.
True story, nothing to stop that. I would have you check out the Kirk bridge adapter for the 500AH in my links if you don't have it. It's well worth the cost. www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks Hudson, yes i will add that part from Kirk !! Your advices are the best !! thx
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hudson, what is the total weight of the 500AH (without handle) plus the Kirk adaptor?
I got the gitzo level 0 traveller tripod. Was £550 with the gitzo ball head to match. Weighs almost nothing and is solid as a rock. Do want a levelling adaptor and fluid head for it tho.
Hey Hudson, I am going to get a 400mm f2.8 Nikon soonish do you have a recommendation for a safe tripod to use with that weight? I mainly use a gimbal or fluid head with a ball head on my light tripod. My heavy one is aluminium and not good for hiking, like you I’m not small but any weight saved with equipment adds up. Cheers
Very nice setup. Surprisingly it weights exactly the same as my standard tripod with ballhead from Novoflex (Triopod). I like this Acratech head though but man, this thing is expensive.
Acratech makes amazing gear. This was by no means an attempt to build a light setup, just a super versatile, light, tall system with no center column or ballhead. Can't abide either of those things anymore. :-)
Another great video. Always crushing it.
Hudson, thank you for sharing your expertise! I’m new to photography and analyzing tripods now. OMG so much to figure out. Actually looking at Gitzo series 2 travel tripod. The only thing I’m not sure of is there are only 2 leg angles…..do you think that’s an issue? Shooting nature, birds, landscape.
I sadly think Gitzo is coasting off a reputation from products made long ago with very little eye to quality today and a very overpriced product. You can see more of my thoughts on tripods at www.hudsonhenry.com/tripods
Wow awesome information...
Would you consider reviewing the Really Right Stuff PC-LR-40 Compact Panning Clamp?
I've used them for years and I have one to sell. It's great, but it's heavy and with a pan and tilt head or fluid head, I have zero need of it. The PG01 is the only product RRS makes that I like and reccomend these days.
Hi Hudson! I'm from Germany and love your videos, especially the gear videos. One question to you: I am 5,807 feet (1,77 meter) tall. Is the leofoto 284 the right tripod for me, or should I choose the leofoto 324? Which one would you recommend for me? Thank you for your answer.
Hudson, would a Markins Q10 ball head work on the 284CEX or would it be too large in diameter? The base diameter of the Markins is 60mm, while the Leofoto site states that the 284CEX has a 54mm platform. I wasn't sure if the 3mm size difference on all sides would cover up the bubble level on the tripod, rendering the levelling base useless. Thank you.
Hard to say for sure. I think that 3mm on each side would leave a clear view though. I'd be reallly surprised if it bothered you. :-)
Great content as usual even being repetitive and updated is captivating. Love this subject on the heads. Your information is the reason I went in this direction. Love my 500. Question: Is that a green screen you're using or a back drop. The trees are very calm! :)
Thank you for this presentation. I was intrigued by the fact that the Acratech head can do multiple row panos without the need for a gimbal-type set up. Quite a saving in weight. Regarding tripods, would you have any comments about the Feisol CT-3372?
Enjoyed the video Hudson! I was in the market for a lightweight, yet sturdy travel tripod. Was going for a Gitzo one, but saw this. I love the leveling head. Thanks again for the content. I’m assuming you are probably all filled up for your Teton workshop? I’ll be sure to go to your website and check it out. Been missing going out so much. Take care, and stay safe.
Hi Hudson !!! ... Greetings from Xalapa, Veracruz. México !!! ... Just a question: I have a MVS500AH like yours ... In an old video you mentioned that you did replace the Pan Knob with a metal one from Kirk Enterprises ... I have being trying to find such knob ... But ... The only one I could find is for MVS502AH !!! ... Is that knob the one you bought for your MVS500AH ??? ... Does it fit well and work fine ??? ... Take care and be safe !!! ...
Quick question about the Acratech head. Does your head’s indexing clamp index in multiple degrees rather than just the 90 degree increments that is advertised on their site? I just got one in and it looks like they’ve completely redesigned the indexing component without any mention on their site (or instructions).
Is you're question about the camp's rotation for l-brackets vs a long lens's foot or nodal rail? It's easy for me to switch orientations and the spider they have to lock it in is the most secure and easy to use that I've yet encountered. I suppose you could set it up on a non 90 degree angle, but you'd have to choose to do so. Squaring up the clamp edge and the top of the head is an easy feel even in the dark.
Are the leg locks also metal or are they plastic? Do you have any concerns about their longevity if they are plastic? I was looking at the Leofoto or something like FLM and it seems that one of the key difference is the metal leg locks on the FLM (assuming these aren't metal as well, they looked to be plastic from photos).
They are composite like the gitzo of old, but better. The old gitzo's never fail and the new metal ones are trash. The leofoto leg locks are by far the nicest and best made I've used. Bombproof, just like the rest of their legs' build.
Quick question. I have an Acratech ball head (a GV2), so I am very familiar with their quality but I have been considering switching to either a Benro S4 fluid head or the Acratech Panoramic Head (like in the video). Weight is a factor, not because I plan on doing long hikes, but because I like to carry all my gear including my tripod in my carry-on. I have a 3rd party leveling ball, so leveling either wouldn't be a factor.
Do you feel like you are sacrificing anything with the Acratec or would you still recommend a fluid head?
th-cam.com/video/Ei8XYK5Cz-k/w-d-xo.html Get the 500AH with the Kirk bridge. Much better than the S4 and what I'd carry every time if I could. This is rad for sub-four pounds, but give me the cheaper fluid if I can afford to carry the 7.5 pounds instead. I have an S4 and it's not much lighter, but no-where near the same quality and ease of use.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thank you.
Great vid as always Hudson. Would you consider the pano head as good for long lens gimbal as the GXP? I primarily do long lens wildlife but would like the ability to do multi-row pano which the GXP can't do. Your opinion would be much appreciated.
I'll take the 500ah over any of them any day a pound makes no difference. :) every time.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thank you 😊
Is this still your ultralight recommendation? I bought the Robus based on your review and haven't been disappointed
More even more than when I did this video. Love it. I keep my list updated here and those links help me out thanks! Www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
The Robus is a great tripod too. Leofoto beat them out for me for big legs. Not sure why Robus seemed to kind of fall off the map. Great product, but the company never responded to email suggestions I sent them. Leofoto responded and built me my dream set of legs. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thanks for the replies! I’ll definitely use your links. I would have went for the long leg Lefoto, but I think if memory serves that wasn’t out yet and I caught your Robus review soon after you published it. I did get the Robus for close to $400 with B&H education discount, and I love everything about it, though I am tempted to sell it and get the Lefoto for the advantages it offers. This ultralight is a sure thing, going to order it up today with your affiliate links.
So what would be the reason for switching to this from your fluid head? Only the weight? They are the same movements but you're losing the smooth fluid.
Winter ski mountaineering, big climbs, or packing a 2nd set of legs. I hope I made that clear in my video. This DOES NOT replace my tall legs with the fluid head. It's just for weight critical missions, or for someone who has limits to what they can physically carry.
Hudson, will the RRS rock claw feet fit this tripod? Some of the others from China like Sirui have a different thread diameter.
They absolutely will. There are also these to consider... ;-) amzn.to/2VtG1NJ
Have you looked at the 3 Legged Thing's new fluid head. It comes with arca swiss clamp built in. I think it's about the same price, (give or take a couple of dollars), as the Manfrotto with the Kirk adapter for arca swiss. I know nothing about 3 legged thing products, what kind of quality they are or anything else. It looks pretty interesting though.
Yeah, I'm a much bigger fan of the 500AH. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Yeah, I have the 502AH and I like it. I just wish Kirk would make one of the arca swiss top plates to fit it like they do for the 500AH. If I get another tripod it will have a either the 500AH or the three legged thing fluid head. Still trying to decide which route would be better.
Would the fluid head that you recommend in other videos fit on this lightweight tripod? I know it would increase the weight by a pound, but I was just curious because I love that fluid head now. Haha
Would you recommend a few bargain tripods that are fairly light but stable in the ~$100 dollar max range? As per my comment, I'm looking for a strong, all metal tripod with separate pan & tilt, fairly tall (I'm 6' 2") with crank elevation & easily adjusted positive locking legs & decent video pan & tilt. Simple design preferred. Thanks in advance!
Oh man. Maybe a used Bogen 301. That was my first good, but heavy aluminum tripod. Ebay will be your friend. You can't really get an easy to use head for 100 even used, but used will certainly be the way to go. I'd urge you to get a Bogen 301 and a Manfrotto 500AH if you can afford it. You'll never regret that head and you can migrate it to another setup later.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks so much! I'll take your advice!
Great video! I went for the 225CEX, because I want to carry it under my messenger bag. And really, even their tallest Ranger tripod isn't tall enough anyway.
We've been pounding wooden posts into the ground and mounting fluid heads on those before, but maybe partially getting more civilized now :)
*I don't understand ONE thing* : Why use that adjustable non-fluid head, when SmallRig makes a functional small and light fluid head that can hold 4 Kilo?
It may not match a professional level video fluid head, but it'll beat anything that needs to be tightened and loosened for every change you want to make, no?
It weighs no more and at 39 Euros currently on Amazon, I've put one on everything except the one that I have a Manfrotto Head on.
If the handle sticks out too far, you can replace it with a wooden teaspoon, after putting to holes into the handle of the spoon...
The small rig is VERY light duty and not nearly as well made as the Acratech stuff. It's just way too light duty for what I do. I think you have to use the Acratech heads to appreciate how incredibly well thought out and machined they are. One of the last truly artisan hand crafters doing this work in the US. 1 pound holds 25 pounds with the pano head. 1 pound holds 50 with the GXP. And they aren't kidding. The independent lock on one side and tension adjuster on the other are so dialed and easy. It's just a precision instrument. You kind of get what you pay for still in that department.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the recommendation! I'm sure its way more amazing, but can I get that under $40? I don't know how much an Acratech Fluid head would cost - going by your high praise, its going to be pretty expensive? (I will check their prices).
My A7C with 20mm F1.8G together weighs only 797 grams, so I went cheap for the table tripod and the light weight Ranger tripod so I can complete the tool kit. I know, I've bought a set of things that are uneven in quality and capacity. I do have a Manfrotto Fluid head also, but its heavy and big, And so is the tall iFootage Tripod its on. And it doesn't pack well, it won't go shorter than 75cm, so I will only carry that when the lighter weight stuff won't suffice. One of the SmallRig fluid head is currently employed as a phone holder on my desk. and the other one is on a Leofoto monopod from eBay. But they're also great to hold Microphones: you can change their position without fumbling with anything - one finger!
Hi mate
What is your experience with 225CEX?
Is it steady enough? Does you recommend it to buy for landscaping?
I’m considering it because of insane lightweight, but not really sure about how it will work in field. Can go for 284cex to be safe, but the difference in 1 pound is significant for my opinion. Really will be thankful for your response 🙏
Hi there - I found your channel through this video! The Leofoto looks interesting. Can you confirm which model it is and how tall it can stand, please? Something doesn't quite match up; some of the dealers here seem to say it only goes to 127cm, but if you're 6ft then it looks taller. Thank you Hudson!
It's all at my links in the description Robin. You have to account for the head too. The leveling adapter doesnt reach eye level. The camera does atop the head atop the legs. :) please consider using my links. You'll get the right one and it helps me out. Thanks. Www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thank you; I'll compare the specs with listings here. If I do go for this one I'll see if your link will ship to my location. Thanks again!
@@robinfellows-weir3734 i could be wrong, but in the video it look like the 324CEX not the smallest 284CEX.
@@robinfellows-weir3734is it possible you reference the wrong tripod ? (Awesome vidéos by the way)
any issues with vibration with long and heavy lenses? My Sigma sport 70-200 with a 2x adapter, ef to rf and rp camera...vibrate like crazy on my 3 legged thing Billy
Not a fan of three legged thing gear. I checked them out when building out this setup. This is much much more stable and well made. You get balanced abs so a stone in the bag and it's not moving a bit. However, I'd much prefer my 7 pound system (#1 in my links at www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks) whenever I can. This setup will work fine with even my 500pf, but I can't imagine carrying a big heavy lens in the situations I'm choosing this over my long legs and fluid head. This is my every ounce counts setup for major alpine expeditions or places I'm getting dropped off in a lite plane where they weigh your kit and limit you. :) it's the absolute lightest setup id trust.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks Henry, I appreciate your feedback. I'm a fan of the leofoto products... I have the lh40 ball head and it's the primary reason why I'm looking for light yet damped tripods. Ever worked with FLM? Stuck between these two brands, the Fml gives me a taller tripod, but for about an extra $100.
FLM makes nice gear too. I love this tripods built in leveling adapter. can't imagine going back to working with a ball head. Super awkward and imprecise for anyone who's used a fluid head or pan tilt head. Particularly with a long lens. Do yourself the biggest favor by exploring that angle. ;)
Looking at leofoto right now looking really good
Lefroto has a head that is very similar to the Acratech, for less money
But if you picked up both and used them, you'd have a REALLY hard time sending the Acratech back. They just create perfectly engineered and designed products. Plus they're wonderful people.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the tip on the Arcatech. Thomas Heaton has raved about them, and they are hard to find. I have my eye on one on eBay, but I'd be saving over $100 on the Lefroto. I just ordered a slightly used Leofoto LS 365CEX, so I'm working on setting up essentially what you're using, which is why when I saw this video today, I was really interested to get your take on the rig. I definitely wanted to go with the "bowl head" style tripod, and was unaware of Leofoto until about a week ago when I saw another video with a guy using one. I don't have a big budget, so I've been trying to find a sort of all-purpose tripod rig that's light enough for carrying around for the nature work I do, but sturdy enough for anything else. I do a lot of bird photography, so this seems like the perfect setup. Thanks again, I enjoy your videos, I always get something out of them.
Can you do multi row panos with that head? Or no?
You sure can. ;-)
That tripod looks flimsy for use with a heavy prime.Check out the Flexshooter Pro,replaced my Pro Media Gear gimbal with it.
I've used the FS Pro. Not my fave, but then I can't stand ball heads and the FS Pro only exacerbates the problem of not being able to tilt in a level way. That said different strokes for different folks. The Acratech Pano head is anything but flimsy, but this is my ultralight setup, so I'd never put a heavy prime on it anyway. I make that VERY clear in this video. This is the ultralight rig I would take on a backcountry ski mountaineering trip or another packing adventure where every ounce saved matters. I carry a fluid head on a 79" set of legs as my primary rig.
That said, I firmly believe Acratech is engineering the finest lightweight heads on the planet. Across their line. If you like the FS Pro, then Acratech's GXP would be the head you'd compare with. Again, I won't use a ball-head except atop a slider or star tracker, but the GXP is my favorite I've ever used and by quite a lot.
Hudson. Great video, thank you.i have been researching Leofoto for quite awhile now, but have waited for reviews on this particular model. I was curious if you had looked at the ls-324cex? It was a few $ more and had a larger leg circumference but only marginal weight difference over the 284cex.
Lew - I own both tripods, for about the past 1-2 years. They are similar heights so the difference is in weight. I also have the RRS TVC-24L which is my tall heavy tripod. The 324 is a better weight for a big lens like a Nikon 200-500. I find I use either the big RRS or the small 284. It pairs well with their small ball head. I will say this - one of the legs came right off when I was twisting a leg lock. I called the number of the unit that shipped them to me in NY and their first suggestion was "have you tried glue?" I epoxied it back in the socket and it's fine now, but what you get with Leofoto is a great tripod, just a hair lower than RRS, but crap support, if you can even locate a phone number (maybe that has changed over the past 6 months or so since this happened?)
Also - there's no leveling bulls-eye on the leveling heads of either of these unless they upgraded over the past year. There was a good solid solution on Amazon with a huge bubble and accurate level smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L12RM4Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but it is no longer available. The one I linked to is sort of "upside down" compared to most. The rim points down, so is out of the way of a large head mounting plate. Otherwise, any similar product would likely do.
Hope this helps.
I heard that over the past year Leofoto has really upped their game, so I decided to check and see. They have. I've used and owned RRS, GItzo, Pro Media, and a bunch of other legs over the past 10 years. This brand new set from Leofoto is absolutely on par with Gitzo or RRS. No question at all in my mind. Gorgeous machining and attention to detail. I bash gear and I'll report if I have a problem, but I can't imagine it from the quality that exudes from these legs. Oh and the new design does have a bubble built in on the side of the built in level, as well as three set screws to lock in the head (which RRS totally lacks). I'm blown away by the quality. Can't say it enough. They are killing it now. I'm considering dumping my Gitzo and working with them based on these legs and their interest in building an alternative ultra-tall, lightweight 75mm bowl set of legs for me.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hudson,
Thanks for the response. I am using a Fuji X-T3 and am about your height. So either 284cex or 324cex would do the trick. I was leaning towards the 324cex as the leg size and angle 24-25 degrees does relate to better stability. I have not seen any reviews for either on The Center Column so it was great to hear your review. BTW, the local disti is in Happy Valley in your neck of the woods (OEC Camera).
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the reply Hudson. In spite of the one issue I had, am still a big fan of Leofoto. In fact, I've been recommending them too. For the money they are a good value, and in some ways they are upping the game as you say. Knowing you you've prolly already unscrewed the collets - the threads don't have any loose parts - no shims to fall out and lose. Also like you I have left claws on all of my pods for years and only remove them when I use rubber feet indoors. My specialty is icy chasms and claws are the best thing for ice imo. You might criticize my choice of head though - an RRS FH-350 fluid head. It weighs 4 pounds, so I don't take it on long hikes, but otherwise I love it to death. It's a real shame thery don't make it any more, but you can still find them used - $$$ btw check out the super lightweight Leofoto DC-282 telescoping center column that simply screws onto the apex plate (or you can put a tiny arca plate on it's bottom to mount right into your head). In a pinch, it gives you about 6-12" of additional reach and weighs only a few ounces. smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CZQZ3SF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I thought the preamble would never end. Almost 25% of the whole video. LOL
Have you ever tried the Benro C3883?
I've used many Benros. Have to say I'd put this set of legs in a quality category far above. More like RRS design and build, better designed even.
Was gonna get a Gitzo but Leofoto is looking pretty awesome
They are really innovating and building quality. Way better quality than the last gitzo I bought.
Thanks for this video. This same tripod/leveling adapter combo is also sold with a Leofoto BV-10 video head that looks to have a good arca swiss compatible clamp. Does anyone have an experience with the Leofoto BV-10 head? This is obvioiusly for a light weight backpacking outfit that is solid enough to function well.
The bv10 is not in the same universe as the acratech. It's a very illustrative case of getting what you pay for in this case as opposed to tripod legs where the cheaper leofoto are among the best out there. The bv10 has no tension adjustment at all on the tilt, just a lock on each side, it's not smooth and it's not really capable to work with much weight. I sent it right back.
The acratech easily locks 25 pounds with a twist and the opposite knob gives you an infinite range of tilt tension adjustment without locking out. It's a 1 pound little gem of a head. They are artisans at Acratech. Call em and ask for the lever clamp with it. No finer lever clamp out there. Please drop my name if you do call them. Really nice people too. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thank you. Glad I asked.
What I've discovered is that ultra light tripods do not hold my cameras solidly in place. I'm sticking with aluminium alloy three section tripods. I need reliable stability.
If you watch, you'll see I recommend a stone bag for about $10 that lets you put all the weight you want in very easily on location. Nothing is stiffer than good carbon and these legs are stiff as hell. Put a 20 pound rock in it and it won't vibrate in 40mph gusts.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I'm more likely to be up on a high building photographing. I can hang my camera bag, or a water bottle. But frankly I'd rather the tripod is heavy enough on its own. Carbon fiber tripods have become something of a fetish, but they're not needed.
@@scottweaverphotovideo I sure need them, but I often have climbing, gear, food, winter tent and other gear to also contend with all on my back. My big rig is 7.5 pounds. There's really no reason not to have a stone bag and having used aluminum tripods in the days before I could afford carbon. I can assure you the carbon is stiffer and much nicer to work with. :-)
hi would just like to ask your opinion about your thoughts on the leofoto tripods as never heard about this brand of tripod and im currently looking for a new carbon fibre tripod as currently have a 3leggedthing punks patti aluminium tripod but its a bit heavy so looking for a new one and was looking at manfrotto or benro but then recently went to a local shop and got introduced to the leofoto tripod range what head do u use ith yours and do u use an L bracket too and what camera do u use on your setup
All my recommended gear is here: www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto oh ok great to hear just thought id ask as im a severely sight impaired/blind photographer
@@AlexVisualMoments96 Hudson uses the Manfrotto MVH500AH fluid head and the Acratech Pano head on his setups. I'd love to see the pictures that you've taken!
Anyone in the market for a tall but light tripod, I would also look at the FLM CP-30 L4 II. It gets 68.3” tall (no center column) while remaining only 3.1lbs. All the same features as the RRS tripods. I have the FLM leveling base and acratech pano head on top and for me, it’s the perfect setup, extremely light without giving up any function.
FLM makes nice stuff. That link is here: bhpho.to/3hVB2Ps. It would pair well with the new 6oz leveling adapter linked in this vid's description. Gotta say though that the new Leofoto gear is insanely well designed and built. I was shocked when it arrived. Since my main 79" Gitzo system is only 7.5 pounds with the 500AH fluid head, I was really working to stay under 4lbs here to give an alternative to the really lightweight set. I considered the setup you listed, but even with the lighter leveler it blew past my limit. I'm really going for light and small for some folks who requested it. I'm usually trying to sell them on a little bit heavier to get taller and more stable. :-)
What do you think about the leofoto VH-30R head? (www.leofoto.com/products.php?cateid=59)
I think they make fantastic stuff and I'm consistently blown away. That said... I'm a huge fan of Manfrotto's 500AH as my main head and the Acratech stuff is 2nd to none. It's just the best.
18 people like heavy tripods.
LMAO!
Leofoto are just 1 'brand' of about a dozen making the exactly the same tripod - most of them are cheaper than this
What are they? I've narrowed my choice between this Leofoto and a Benro TMA37C.
Henry, don’t you care that Leofoto brazenly rips off Really Right Stuff??? Now that I think about it, one of their heads is a complete copy of the Acratech pano head. Come on, have some principles or at least have the integrity to tell folks that you’re dealing with a company that deals with counterfeit products.
No no, Leofoto latest stuff is actually more innovative than RRS and nicer in my opinion. Link me an equivalent RRS tripod to this one... Built in leveling adapter? Triple, easily accessed set screws? RRS's accessory leveling adapters don't even have set screws to lock the head in place. RRS is one of the more litigious companies around. They sue any new product developer or importer/reseller even when new designs aren't really close to copies. There are a number of reasons I personally try to avoid using RRS whenever possible.
très léger moins de matières ,stable ? Acratech 1 184,55 euros amazon 😂