Yeah if you have something solid, definitely the way to go. Having it mounted to the springs like that though feeds the vibrations right into the seat so it’s pretty good. Thanks for the compliment.
Just finished setting all the hardware up, and it's excellent, much better than the pad. I still have some tuning to do in the app, but it's great, thanks StrIIker. I will have a video of it up tomorrow and I gave you a mention, thanks again.
To those who share a house with someone who's less enthused about flight simming I highly recommend getting some vibration isolation mounts (bobbins I think they're called - the ones you put under washing machines) to isolate the part you're adding the transducers to and the rest of the rig. My pucks are on the lumbar support and bottom cushion of my seat and I've added these isolators between the seat and the rig and it massively reduces any vibration "escaping". I've ordered some extra in case I want to turn the settings up further and I'll then add these to my simrigs mounting feet. For ref I'm using the NLR Military rig
This is a great suggestion! I'm in my basement so I don't have to deal with this issue of escaping vibrations. I may have to do a quick followup video with these suggestions and other observations.
This is awesome! Thank you! Bummer I can't use my spare Schiit headphone amp...probably pushes a bit harder. My only suggestion? Pay like 5$-10$ for some banana plugs. Makes pulling things apart and putting them together a lot easier. No idea why this ended up in my feed, glad it did. Probably because my nephew and I fly some IL-2 and War Thunder. Though he does fly some DCS as well, I just don't.
Thanks! That’s a great idea and I will give it a look. Never heard of banana plugs but will look it up and grab some! I ordered a stronger power supply because the one included maxes at 60 watts (12 v) so I will see how this performs with it. I might make a follow up video with lessons learned and include the plugs in it.
Hah! I will admit that when I watch the video, I laugh when I talk about the stripping and yanking etc. Yes, I am immature! But regarding those wire strippers.. I can't tell you how many wires I have stripped over the years doing DIY stuff at home for repairs or installing some fixture etc. It was always a hated thing because I'd screw it up and drag out half of the wires or cut too much etc. Then I saw this on a video once where the person had these and had to get one. What a difference. What can I say.. I loves me an easy stripper! (take that how ever you want.. and you'd be correct in my intent) Thank you also for your compliment!
@StrIIker-TV seriously though, you got a new subscriber. Inhale one question just from reading the comments and I might be interpreting incorrectly, are the two software packages owned and operated by one person or is there a website?
@@thesouloftheinternet4829 So there is a website which I linked in the Video Description. SimShaker has two components. There is the SimShaker for Aviators which is free. This can be used for people who own the Jet Seat vibrating pad. I really like it. It has 8 motors which vibrate like a massage chair pad however they are activated and controlled by the software. The intensity, frequency and positions correspond to what the aircraft you are flying does. This software is maintained by a guy who goes by F410. He adds new aircraft as they come out if and when he gets the new module. People sometimes donate a new aircraft module to him. The second part is Sim Shaker Sound Module which is owned and maintained by Andre. Andre also is the one who sells the JetSeat pad. He's a nice and helpful guy. He also happens to be living in Russia so there's some challenges around getting the software license (and buying the jet seat if one wants that). If you can't complete the transaction on the website due to sanctions, you need to contact him via his email which is on the website and he can make arrangements with his friends or family living outside of Russia to handle the transaction etc. I think at one point, Andre handled all of the software or was partnered with the other person some how. I don't know the back story but both have been doing this for years for the DCS community. I got all of my stuff in the before time.
It's a great setup! You won't be sorry. There is just an issue getting the Sim Shaker Sound module as Andre seems to have taken a few days off. Maybe email him (link on his Sim Shaker Sound License page) and see when he will be back.
@@kgod511 man, if you have not been using anything yet.. you are in for a treat. Small issue, Andre who sells the SimShaker sound module is away for a few days so you may need to wait for him to get back. Work shooting him a message or email to see if you can make a purchase or at least find out when you will be able to.
@@StrIIker-TV no never used anything like it you told me to wait to order it till you put this video I’m told by many it’s a game changer lol I’m excited I’m leaving for Utah Wednesday so I will be away for a few days as well
Just came across this video after basically doing the same thing today, briefly chatted on discord. This makes about as big an impact in immersion as the jump from flatscreen to VR. Not sure if you mentioned it but what is the power rating of the power supply that came with your nobsound amp? I have the same one but the supply is only 12v @5amp so 60watt max, I've noticed the outputs of both my pucks are much lower when I run both at the same time than one individually
I have the default 12v power supply. I should grab a 24V one (max voltage of the amp). I'll have to try an individual run to see how much of a difference there is.
I had the Next Level Haptic seat pad, but I didn't really like it. Is this a better fit for the Next-level cockpit? It looks like it worked out well for you.
I tried the Next Level Haptic seat pad and personally, I hated it. I own the Jet Seat pad (also from Andre / Sim Shaker) and it's so much better. Stronger vibrations and much, much more comfortable. As for the Bass shakers, they are quite good. I haven't tried flying without my jet seat pad but am going to try for a day or so to see how it is. Originally, The Jet Seat was what I considered to be near perfect but it was not very strong (but much better than the HF8) so I put the ButtKicker back on and only used it for weapons release, gun fire, cat shots, landing and some stuff like ground roll bumps and it was a killer combination. I got the left/ right, legs/back positional effects and the "oomph" from the Butt Kicker. The Bass Shakers are much better than the Butt Kicker and like I said, might be good enough on their own (with a left and right side). Even if a person uses just one, I think it's a terrific system. Let me know how it goes for ya!
Kind of weird. I live in the US and when I tried to purchase the SimShaker sound module it says no payment option available due to sanctions ? Where is this guy located ?
He lives in Russia. You can contact him via email (there’s a link I believe on his store page) and he will get you in touch with his friend or relative who lives outside of Russia for the transaction.
@StrIIker-TV I'm planning to attach one 50W Dayton Audio transducer to my office chair, will it affect if my transducer is not centered below the chair? The only place I can mount the Transducer below the chair is towards the left side, next to the chair's pole. Will that ruin the experience, or it doesn't matter if it's more towards one side as long as it is in contact with the chair's bottom?
It will be fine with a single transducer which is what many people get. The left/right sensations are not as dramatic as one may expect. It will shake the whole seat and you'll love it. I also have a JetPad haptic seat pad which I use as well with the transducers and that definitely provides the left/right front/back feelings. It's a great little device. Key to getting the transducers to give you the sensations which you want is to make sure it's well attached to the seat bottom, ideally to something hard which will transfer the sensations through to you. It's really an amazing experience! I hopped into the Blackhawk the other day and it was shaking me so much that the cyclic was vibrating slightly (I also have a force feedback stick which feeds vibrations into the stick but my shaking was from the transducer.
@@muzzman1030 Yeah I've seen videos out there which people have made which show how they mounted up their speakers. My approach worked for the specific chair but obviously not for others. Some folks have mounted a board (wood or metal sheet) to their chairs and then mounted to that, others cut away some of the chair covering to get better access to some hard part of the chair. I guess that's why the buttkicker worked so well for office chairs because it simply clamps onto the chair stem.
@@StrIIker-TV true. I am struggling to finalize which chair to mount the transducer to, and also how to mount it 😅. Im thinking of experimenting by attaching the transducer to one of my dining chair first (it has the least about of foam, and easiest to mount from below), and then figure from there.
@@muzzman1030 if you can swing it, there I think there are some very reasonably priced game chairs available out there. It’s what I did. I actually stopped using the one I have now for a while and went back to the office chair. I eventually figured out how to make it all work for me. Let me see if I can find some pictures someone sent me or videos I saw. It may help you out.
Do the left and right shaker correspond to left and right engine/wing? Like if my right engine dies in flight, will the engine noise rumble only run through the left shaker? Or do they both feed the full signal all the time?
@@anonymous15432 yes, this is how it works. One is left channel and the other is right. So when I am in the Strike Eagle and start up the jet, I start with the right engine first. The right side starts to vibrate at that time.
@@anonymous15432 My pleasure. The left and right channels are handled in the SimShaker Audio software which is what works with SimShaker for Aviators to translate the telemetry into sounds for the transducers for each channel. If you have 6 of them , you can do more positional output but it would require smaller transducers. The more positional output is handled by the jet seat / jet pad which also own. The two (jet seat and transducers) together really works well.
Is it possible to run these along with my buttkicker? Is that pointless? I was just thinking I could keep it toned in and on for serious buffeting or big stuff.
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Best if attached to solid frame. Great video. All Sims need this!
Yeah if you have something solid, definitely the way to go. Having it mounted to the springs like that though feeds the vibrations right into the seat so it’s pretty good. Thanks for the compliment.
Just finished setting all the hardware up, and it's excellent, much better than the pad. I still have some tuning to do in the app, but it's great, thanks StrIIker. I will have a video of it up tomorrow and I gave you a mention, thanks again.
I watched your video! It looks great! Thanks for the shoutout.
Was waiting for this video 😂
To those who share a house with someone who's less enthused about flight simming I highly recommend getting some vibration isolation mounts (bobbins I think they're called - the ones you put under washing machines) to isolate the part you're adding the transducers to and the rest of the rig. My pucks are on the lumbar support and bottom cushion of my seat and I've added these isolators between the seat and the rig and it massively reduces any vibration "escaping".
I've ordered some extra in case I want to turn the settings up further and I'll then add these to my simrigs mounting feet. For ref I'm using the NLR Military rig
This is a great suggestion! I'm in my basement so I don't have to deal with this issue of escaping vibrations. I may have to do a quick followup video with these suggestions and other observations.
This is awesome! Thank you! Bummer I can't use my spare Schiit headphone amp...probably pushes a bit harder. My only suggestion? Pay like 5$-10$ for some banana plugs. Makes pulling things apart and putting them together a lot easier.
No idea why this ended up in my feed, glad it did. Probably because my nephew and I fly some IL-2 and War Thunder. Though he does fly some DCS as well, I just don't.
Thanks! That’s a great idea and I will give it a look. Never heard of banana plugs but will look it up and grab some! I ordered a stronger power supply because the one included maxes at 60 watts (12 v) so I will see how this performs with it. I might make a follow up video with lessons learned and include the plugs in it.
Learned two things. How to make my Sim pit as awesome as possible. Thanks for that. I also learned you low key love wire strippers.. Freudian maybe?😂😂
Hah! I will admit that when I watch the video, I laugh when I talk about the stripping and yanking etc. Yes, I am immature! But regarding those wire strippers.. I can't tell you how many wires I have stripped over the years doing DIY stuff at home for repairs or installing some fixture etc. It was always a hated thing because I'd screw it up and drag out half of the wires or cut too much etc. Then I saw this on a video once where the person had these and had to get one. What a difference. What can I say.. I loves me an easy stripper! (take that how ever you want.. and you'd be correct in my intent)
Thank you also for your compliment!
@StrIIker-TV seriously though, you got a new subscriber. Inhale one question just from reading the comments and I might be interpreting incorrectly, are the two software packages owned and operated by one person or is there a website?
@@thesouloftheinternet4829 So there is a website which I linked in the Video Description. SimShaker has two components. There is the SimShaker for Aviators which is free. This can be used for people who own the Jet Seat vibrating pad. I really like it. It has 8 motors which vibrate like a massage chair pad however they are activated and controlled by the software. The intensity, frequency and positions correspond to what the aircraft you are flying does. This software is maintained by a guy who goes by F410. He adds new aircraft as they come out if and when he gets the new module. People sometimes donate a new aircraft module to him.
The second part is Sim Shaker Sound Module which is owned and maintained by Andre. Andre also is the one who sells the JetSeat pad. He's a nice and helpful guy. He also happens to be living in Russia so there's some challenges around getting the software license (and buying the jet seat if one wants that). If you can't complete the transaction on the website due to sanctions, you need to contact him via his email which is on the website and he can make arrangements with his friends or family living outside of Russia to handle the transaction etc.
I think at one point, Andre handled all of the software or was partnered with the other person some how. I don't know the back story but both have been doing this for years for the DCS community. I got all of my stuff in the before time.
Couldn't help myself and ordered everything, it will be in tomorrow just in time for a weekend project.
It's a great setup! You won't be sorry. There is just an issue getting the Sim Shaker Sound module as Andre seems to have taken a few days off. Maybe email him (link on his Sim Shaker Sound License page) and see when he will be back.
@@StrIIker-TV Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I'm sure he will open shop again soon.
Actually, the SimShaker app ran my Next Level pad, so I wonder if the Next Level app I have will work with this, just a thought.
You need two modules. The Simshaker Aviator application and the SimShaker Sound module. The Simshaker Aviator app will not run the bass shakers.
@@StrIIker-TV I emailed him as you said, hopefully, he will get back to me.
Ordering everything now 😂
Don’t delay! It’s awesome man.
@@StrIIker-TV everything is in my Amazon cart as I write this lol
@@kgod511 man, if you have not been using anything yet.. you are in for a treat. Small issue, Andre who sells the SimShaker sound module is away for a few days so you may need to wait for him to get back. Work shooting him a message or email to see if you can make a purchase or at least find out when you will be able to.
@@StrIIker-TV no never used anything like it you told me to wait to order it till you put this video I’m told by many it’s a game changer lol I’m excited I’m leaving for Utah Wednesday so I will be away for a few days as well
Just came across this video after basically doing the same thing today, briefly chatted on discord. This makes about as big an impact in immersion as the jump from flatscreen to VR. Not sure if you mentioned it but what is the power rating of the power supply that came with your nobsound amp? I have the same one but the supply is only 12v @5amp so 60watt max, I've noticed the outputs of both my pucks are much lower when I run both at the same time than one individually
I have the default 12v power supply. I should grab a 24V one (max voltage of the amp). I'll have to try an individual run to see how much of a difference there is.
I had the Next Level Haptic seat pad, but I didn't really like it. Is this a better fit for the Next-level cockpit? It looks like it worked out well for you.
I tried the Next Level Haptic seat pad and personally, I hated it. I own the Jet Seat pad (also from Andre / Sim Shaker) and it's so much better. Stronger vibrations and much, much more comfortable.
As for the Bass shakers, they are quite good. I haven't tried flying without my jet seat pad but am going to try for a day or so to see how it is. Originally, The Jet Seat was what I considered to be near perfect but it was not very strong (but much better than the HF8) so I put the ButtKicker back on and only used it for weapons release, gun fire, cat shots, landing and some stuff like ground roll bumps and it was a killer combination. I got the left/ right, legs/back positional effects and the "oomph" from the Butt Kicker. The Bass Shakers are much better than the Butt Kicker and like I said, might be good enough on their own (with a left and right side). Even if a person uses just one, I think it's a terrific system. Let me know how it goes for ya!
@@StrIIker-TV Will do
Kind of weird. I live in the US and when I tried to purchase the SimShaker sound module it says no payment option available due to sanctions ? Where is this guy located ?
He lives in Russia. You can contact him via email (there’s a link I believe on his store page) and he will get you in touch with his friend or relative who lives outside of Russia for the transaction.
@StrIIker-TV I'm planning to attach one 50W Dayton Audio transducer to my office chair, will it affect if my transducer is not centered below the chair? The only place I can mount the Transducer below the chair is towards the left side, next to the chair's pole. Will that ruin the experience, or it doesn't matter if it's more towards one side as long as it is in contact with the chair's bottom?
It will be fine with a single transducer which is what many people get. The left/right sensations are not as dramatic as one may expect. It will shake the whole seat and you'll love it. I also have a JetPad haptic seat pad which I use as well with the transducers and that definitely provides the left/right front/back feelings. It's a great little device.
Key to getting the transducers to give you the sensations which you want is to make sure it's well attached to the seat bottom, ideally to something hard which will transfer the sensations through to you. It's really an amazing experience! I hopped into the Blackhawk the other day and it was shaking me so much that the cyclic was vibrating slightly (I also have a force feedback stick which feeds vibrations into the stick but my shaking was from the transducer.
@@StrIIker-TV alright, thanks got it.
Now I’m more confident and going to order the stuff … now just wondering how to mount everything up 😂😂
@@muzzman1030 Yeah I've seen videos out there which people have made which show how they mounted up their speakers. My approach worked for the specific chair but obviously not for others. Some folks have mounted a board (wood or metal sheet) to their chairs and then mounted to that, others cut away some of the chair covering to get better access to some hard part of the chair. I guess that's why the buttkicker worked so well for office chairs because it simply clamps onto the chair stem.
@@StrIIker-TV true.
I am struggling to finalize which chair to mount the transducer to, and also how to mount it 😅.
Im thinking of experimenting by attaching the transducer to one of my dining chair first (it has the least about of foam, and easiest to mount from below), and then figure from there.
@@muzzman1030 if you can swing it, there I think there are some very reasonably priced game chairs available out there. It’s what I did. I actually stopped using the one I have now for a while and went back to the office chair. I eventually figured out how to make it all work for me. Let me see if I can find some pictures someone sent me or videos I saw. It may help you out.
Do the left and right shaker correspond to left and right engine/wing? Like if my right engine dies in flight, will the engine noise rumble only run through the left shaker? Or do they both feed the full signal all the time?
@@anonymous15432 yes, this is how it works. One is left channel and the other is right. So when I am in the Strike Eagle and start up the jet, I start with the right engine first. The right side starts to vibrate at that time.
@@StrIIker-TV excellent! Cheers for the quick reply.
@@anonymous15432 My pleasure. The left and right channels are handled in the SimShaker Audio software which is what works with SimShaker for Aviators to translate the telemetry into sounds for the transducers for each channel. If you have 6 of them , you can do more positional output but it would require smaller transducers. The more positional output is handled by the jet seat / jet pad which also own. The two (jet seat and transducers) together really works well.
Is it possible to run these along with my buttkicker? Is that pointless? I was just thinking I could keep it toned in and on for serious buffeting or big stuff.