AI Anti-Cheat is about to change gaming forever. To support this and get the best browser for gamers, download OperaGX using this link mtchm.de/yppi8 This video has a lot of information, so here are time stamps to peak moments as well as links to some of the channels and things mentioned- 00:00 Saving FPS Games IF THE WEBSITE BREAKS, BE PATIENT AND CHECK BACK. THE TRAFFIC MAY CRASH THE WEBSITE. WAN Show - th-cam.com/video/ePQAG4j_e-M/w-d-xo.html G0at Exposing Cheaters in Tarkov - th-cam.com/video/p5LfGcDB7Ek/w-d-xo.html Doc's Tweet - twitter.com/DrDisrespect/status/1632430208379928576?s=20 Follow me plz twitter.com/BascllyHomeless 01:00 Downloading OperaGX will support WALDO.VISION Submit your clips to help train our AI model - waldo.vision/ (IF THE SITE IS DOWN, BE PATIENT, WE WILL PROBABLY CRASH IT WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC) 02:42 Coming Clean About My Past 04:10 The Final Form of AI Cheats Show TheGodlyNoob some love for showing this off www.twitch.tv/thegodlynoob 05:15 Guess Who’s Hacking PLEASE Show some love to the devs in the Waldo discord. These guys have put in countless hours on the project and could literally land on the moon with their combined knowledge. bit.ly/3mqDTV0 The answer to who is hacking is at the bottom of the description box. THANK YOU to these guys for spending their spare time working on Waldo: arthur b3kN Brandons404 bruhmoment ceridev3 chrisp elremineh FaceInCake FrostByte Husky IB Gore Keeks Matt L Olson tsundere 06:55 How the AI Cheats Work 07:30 G0at Cheated in Tarkov to Catch Cheaters WATCH HIS VIDEO - th-cam.com/video/p5LfGcDB7Ek/w-d-xo.html 08:53 Using Human Behavior Detection in an AI Anti-Cheat 10:05 It Lives 10:23 How does AI Anti-Cheat work? 10:52 What percent of players are cheating? 11:55 Can AI humanized aim assist fool it? 13:10 How long does it take for AI to detect a cheater in real-time? 13:55 Why this is the final solution - Gaming is saved 14:57 Waldo - Visual AI Cheat Detection 15:20 Conclusion Waldo Technical Update can be found here: th-cam.com/video/D2SvX-qk-00/w-d-xo.html Thank you Anybrain.gg Links to all of my socials can be found here - www.zbtsol.com/ Support me on Patreon www.patreon.com/basicallyhomeless How I got the name "Basically Homeless" - th-cam.com/video/ZGfcKkGvS1A/w-d-xo.html And don't forget, this means one out of three of the dudes in the comment section be cheating 😂
I am curious as to how / if this AI progrm will account for player growth over time as people get better at games as they play them. As in a 2 hr window of who you are (how you play the game) at the begining of R6 is not the same as who you are (how you play the game) 1000 hrs later.
Yeah too bad a simple pid controller algorithm w/ or without bezier curves would completely ruin your "detection" not to mention most aimbots are rotational, besides ai aimbots and colorbots that use pixels and usually move in increments less then 40
What drives me nuts in games like CS and Rust is not the obvious cheaters but the fact that so many people can be closet cheating and you really don't know whether you're just old and getting worse or they could be cheating.
Yep, CS cheater paranoia is so bad that it's not really possible to believe someone wrecking you and your team is just good until you go watch the demo for yourself. It shouldn't be like that.
Or you are on m/k , and the build in AA for controllers "assists" them - its just another form of #softwareaim - the software does the work. (dont know if CS or Rust has AA though :-) ).
about 4 or so years ago, maybe a bit more? I quit CSGO, I had participated in large tournaments, and was competing on a semi-pro level. I quit because of cheaters, first of all, there was a Faceit forum post as well as a reddit post with questionaire's asking people if they are cheating and why in a "anonymous manner" obviously it would only be anonymous for other readers of the threads, and yet over 10% of people who participated admitted to cheating. imagine how high that number would've been, had it been truly anonymous. that means on average 1 person was was cheating in every match, who also semi-publicly admitted to cheating. that is an absolute ludicrous statistic. it genuinly shook my tiny brain. That wasn't the reason though, it was people talking about cheats, the public perception, the reasoning and logic of the cheaters, as well as the accusers or even the sympathisers or deniers. I think this video explained an element of obvious cheating that 99,9% of players are too insanely stupid to understand, in the example that was given in Tarkov of the legit players vs the cheaters. I have seen dozens of semi-pros take my winnings, and earnings in Online tournaments as well as even LAN tournaments who were some of the most obvious cheaters I have ever seen (lost in the finals in at the time probably the 2nd biggest national LAN tournament to a team who obviously toggled on half way through the game, it stated in the rules that you required to Record a Demo, but their Demo got "corrupted" when they "Disconnected" to toggle, and even with such a blatant rule violation, they werent DQ'd. Even the top 5% of players match making wise focus on shit like being banged, or shot through smoked, and immediately call cheats, I have hundreds of comments on my profile of people claiming im cheating because they are stepping behind a smoke on banana, and thats either global MM or Faceit level 10 games. meanwhile people who obviously dont check their corners correctly, people who have too much Info when u watch the demo, or even people snapping / aiming at people through walls in RIDICULOUS positions (like Dust 2 Lower dark, ur holding middle, and u randomly turn 140 degrees to snap onto a CT on B site? that has never happened in any other demo I've ever watched, no one would end up with their crosshair there, ever, except of course in a couple of Demos of people like Stewie just before he turned fulltime pro ;) ). Cheating happens at every level, Pro, Semi-pro (especially) hardcore or casual. I've even had friends I played with turn out to be cheaters (even played an online tournament where one of our ringers turned out to be cheating) it is absolutely disgusting, and I started doubting if anyone and everyone was cheating, all the time. it is not a fun mentality to have, so I quit.
I think another thing that makes AI anti-cheat so interesting to me, is that it can very easily be 100% server ran which means less privacy concerns compared to current anti-cheats that look at everything on your device
Yes thats amazing, but then without these biometric profiles, which frankly scar me, given that most valuable data will eventually leak out to some third party.
@@holthuizenoemoet591 Im all for data privacy but I'm not sure how the biometrics of how you play games would be a security issue. What could someone do with that.
@@gearedguardian I can't think of a concrete example either, but i can speculate a bit. The thing I'm worried about is that they can infer information about how your brain works, its like a brain benchmark similarly to for example an IQ test, but now for kinetic skills, stress resistance, visual and auditorial processing, spatial awareness etc. This would be interesting in for example countries like china where they like to closely monitor their citizens, including the development of children.
I spent nearly 10 years working in Triple A playing that Cat and Mouse game on the defenders side. This new AI direction is some of the most compelling stuff I've seen in a long time. Finally a solution that doesn't require Kernel access.
I didn't understand the end. I think he meant it will detect your movements vs. a imprint of your cheating so that your next account will be insta-banned within minutes once it sees the same patterns. But what if they use different cheats or had a different mouse? Also this doesn't seem to address auto-trigger type cheating where you're actually decent at aim but you don't have to have any timing so you can just flick. I want to believe this will work and is coming soon, I'm not sold yet.
@@sleepydragonzarinthal3533 oh yeah? good luck with that people spend their money to support the anti cheat ai, you would have to be crazy to support a project that would ruin fps games and spend ur money on it. Like cheaters maybe are stupid but they will understand that if everyone was hacking then your hacks dont mean anything
The reason why I avoid multiplayer fps games is that cheating is very rampant but after seeing this vid, it made me happy and excited for the future of gaming in general.
Unironically God bless you man. This epidemic of cheaters has been eating at my soul. And its been years of gaslighting by companies and streamers telling us that cheaters are not a big issue. But people at high levels of play like us on in the trenches every day seeing it happen with our own eyes. Thank you bro. I could actually cry right now, salvation is upon us.
"But people at high levels of play like us on in the trenches every day..." Humblebrag much? Most people are average players, not "high levels", and average players take it on the chin a lot more than "high level" players.
The really insane part is they can look back over old clips of gameplay and determine if cheats were used. Pros and streamers beware, you WILL be caught. Don't use cheats.
if you mean the biometric profile thing then, you could use counter-AI to change your default behaviors to bypass this biometric profile, but this will make it a lot harder for most cheaters.
I do worry for those who cheated when they were 15 and at the age of 30 havent touched cheats since then. Statute of limitations, perhaps? At what point do we give people another chance?
@@kenosabi I am not saying there shouldnt be consequences - I am saying that the punishment should match the crime. You don't say, "Hey you sold drugs, prison for LIFE." There is a statute of limitations and there is an accurate and equal punishment. I have never cheated, but I still have empathy and want a fair system in place. Lots of 15 year-old kids were stupid, probably yourself included. Punishment should fit crime.
@@kenosabi Looks like we've found someone of impeccable morality, a true bastion of good will who has never committed an act of wrong doing throughout their entire life. Do they ship you Nobel peace prizes in bulk?
@@kenosabidamn bro guess you never made a mistake ever lol, you do stupid things when you're young, s1mple cheated when he was 15, now he's the best cs player in the world
I’ve been false banned multiple times(unbanned too) on overwatch and hearing this is actually a dream. To know for certain everyone on the top of the leaderboard is legit would be great motivation to play a game competitively
It would motivate so many to pick up competitive gaming again, people don't realize just how many good players quit because of cheating and because they didn't want to stoop to cheating themselves to stay competitive.
@@fador1337 me and a group of about 10 people played R6 religiously for about a year after realease. then we typically shut down at about 10:30 at night because thecheating became so obvious around that time. and then eventually we all stopped playing.
Its really nice idea but this is what I am mostly scared about. Its really bad if people get false banned. My steam account is false banned and that sucks.
I always considered it a compliment when accused of cheating, and beating known cheaters was always such a rush. Yet, I'm excited for future generations who can experience games finally purged of the plague
There's another problem that is not talked about when it comes to online gaming. And that is hardware differences, because in FPS's it matters a lot who get the hit first and who avoids the opponents hits. The only way you can really find out your true skill is if you play LAN matches against players with the exact same hardware, otherwise it could just be that your computer and internet connection gives you an unfair advantage over your opponent.
@@YeeLeeHaw Considering how small a time frame a 30-60 ping is it doesn't really matter in 99.9999% of the cases. Your hardware might have had an effect on the game in the old days but most FPS games that run smoothly and have decent servers nowadays give little to no difference on hardware. Your eyes for example cant see the difference between 120 fps and 140 fps. It starts to blur out at 60 fps since the max is about 30-60 fps that your eyes can differentiate. Anything over that might look smoother for some but doesn't give any real advantage since you are physically unable to process it yourself.
@@hurmuli8947 No, you are talking about reaction time, I'm talking about the data getting from your computer to the server and being processed slower than your opponent. The fact that you believed I talked about reaction time goes to show you have no clue. You'd be surprised if you faced the same opponents in a LAN tourney that you play with online, it's a completely different game when everybody are equal.
@@YeeLeeHaw the reaction time is such a larger number in most cases it really doesn't. It matter a lot when I was playing in the early 2000's but it's just not important anymore unless you are playing on a toster oven or connecting to servers hundreds of miles away. Reaction speed isn't even that important beyond a certain threshold because a lot of fire fights come down to crosshair placement and game sense. Reacting 1ms faster doesn't matter if their crosshair is already on your head while you are aiming somewhere else.
I found it odd that even though I never stopped playing video games I continued to get worse and worse. I never considered that it might be the cause of an increase in cheaters and not a decrease in skill. It's probably both though.
As I get older my reactions are slower but my tactical decision making has gotten better (give or take depending on the game and situation). Additionally the longer a game is out, the better the community gets at the game and so the skill ceiling is raised. Take Apex Legends for example since to this day movement tech continues to be discovered and utilized. Just being able to tap-strafe was the height of movement but now you have stuff like super-gliding and mantle jumping that are much harder to pull off. Everyone can do the easy movement and everyone is a lot better at spray control. Basically it's a bit of both.
The cheating has pushed me towards single player and coop fps gaming. I avoid any game with pvp meta even if you don't actually win something in the end.
With the biometric profile, it would be cool if we could see people who play almost exactly like us, or also potential teammates that are good matches in which we both compensate for eachother's short comings.
@@TradingToolsSoftware Fuuckkk you're right. From the little I've been learned of machine learning I think that's way correct. You could feed your inputs into a machine that converts from your biometric profile into a biometric profile of someone much much better. I'm sure there's issues but I also agree that this is still going to change cheating. At some point, cheating is going to be so sophisticated at replicated real life gameplay that there won't be a discernable difference, and if there isn't a discernable difference then it's not really cheating anymore is it?
Imagine what this could do for computer opponents, such as NPC's in games, essentially enhancing them to a human level! I'm excited to see where this leads in the coming months.
@@Judas1911WR1 you sure about that? Sometimes they act like braindead, and then sometimes you gear yourself with meta items and then get shot (head, eyes) from 50m with a buckshot.
@@WhittaII for real. Looking up you ad preferences on google is eye opening. They know where you are, how long you were there, patterns of where you like to go, etc all from gps data on your phone. It is wild what people dont realize they already know about everyone with a cell phone.
I figure they could just modify the movement, aim etc to essentially change the fingerprint of the profile.... I hope I am wrong, but I imagine it would be pretty tough to use that technology to ban across new accounts.
@@JB-iz8tf sounds pretty risky too, i cant imagine all 7 billion of us have so wildly different movement patterns that this system would be foolproof in the first place
@@mandurrudnam7632 As far as I understand, the movement patterns don't have to be wildly different at all, since it's very advanced AI it can detect even the smallest of differences and as CFG of AnyBrain said they aren't trying to ban every cheater yet first priority is that everyone they ban is a cheater, so I'm not worried about this.
doesnt forza have a similar-ish feature when you play against your friends past race times in solo career mode? i only played once so my apologies if im mistaken but thats how i remembered it working
The only game that I know of where it’s borderline impossible to cheat in is Valorant. Their anti-cheat is insanely accurate. The rest of games…yeah, not so much
@@harmonyinchaos6381 I have yet to find any cheats that consistently work in Valorant. So far their anti-cheat has operated near flawlessly. Comes at the cost of massive invasion of your system though
@@sudowtfyep their anti cheat Is monster cuz it runs on kernel, but there's still a lot of way to cheat on valorant my cousin literally playing for 3 months now using color aimbot, he use some kind of hardware called Arduino I think.
@@sudowtf yeah. also an insane back door opportunity. If riot ever gets hacked, every, single, valorant installed computer can become a vector for further attacks, got all their shit stole, etc. The fact that people accept kernel level anti cheat is insane to me. Do you have a banking password saved on your computer? Congratulations. All your data is at risk.
Sounds like another one who only played competitive online games. Not every multiplayer is Pvp. But I can understand, there aren't that many coop options: Warframe, payday 2 and Deep rock galactic are the games that have no (relevant) Pvp and are still alive.
Was on a team in source where we had the #1 spot in cal for a bit, thinking of a play space where hackers get caught, banned, and stay banned gets me so FLIPPIN HARD. I honestly think that after this tech is hopefully everywhere, that the people like you and me who actually have been forced to play against aimbots and remained legit all these years are going to be the greatest fps gamers of all time. Simply because after this tech is everywhere people will no longer be forced into learning how to be faster then cheats. We will finally get the limelight we deserved with the back pay of everyone KNOWING we are legit. No more spam reports from hackers abusing those kind of systems by confusing noobs. OMG I want this now. I pray CS2 uses this.
@@randoedits6906 im sure you and your one subscriber were on a top level pro comp team but i do agree this tech needs to be everywhere im tired of seeing cheaters in competitive and not having any power to ban them or even have them looked into this will change everything
Cheaters will never be lessened. AI will soon be used to make undetectable cheats and the entire multiplayer gaming industry is about to sink, there is a 100% guarantee that this will happen.
Glad to see this happening. Saw a cheating discord recently & the mods were asking people to push against this by linking the efforts as a violation of data rights. The desperation when money is involved.. Well done & looking forwards to seeing more of this. As FPS games are nearly unplayable currently.
Assuming that the server you joined is serious and has more than one neuron and it is true. nah, seriously how stupid they say that, maybe those mods are terrible at programming, and really what they say is partly true, because it is a bit extreme to give kernel access of your PC to a company, I mean, if it is not enough with Google that not even with that access can determine the direction of your life due to so much espionage, now a company with the potential to do anything with your computer, and that by bad luck has a security breach, well congratulations, your bank details will be in their hands this for real looks sus, because they can simply use AI for creating cheats for counter
@@Miguel_Angel51 shows that you have no idea at all. NO this is not a concern for privacy or any of that, because the anti cheat only needs THE RECORDING OF YOUR GAMEPLAY, no need for a programm on your pc, opposed to the cheats which are a HUGE privacy concern, because theres a lot of malware around. They are just making up shit because they see this could literally RUIN them. In a very very simple way you can think of this as a "are you a robot?" captcha those works by detecting the way you click the box, a programm CANNOT move like a human, in this case you could probablyx easily trick it, but the gist is that a bot would make your mouse simply teleport to the checkbox and click it. this is the same idea in ai form that analyses millions of hours of gameplay, and as such the difference between minute movements by a software correcting your aim or you just luckily flayling aroung and hitting the random headshot are a difference like night and day, you CANT fake that! the cheats already try to. If your cheat was Ai too it could possibly work, but youd have a SHITTON of ressources and would basically have to programm an entire human to make it play like one... so the only way to beat this is to let an AI play the game, and we dont even have the calculation power to simulate a human brain, so that wont happen for cheats, it would be SOOOOO goddamn expensive its simply not worth!
Same...imagine the AI is allucinating that the player is cheating when infact in reality he is 100% clean and just a really good player or being lucky because of the style the player is playing...then what? then that player is going to suffer from a permanent ban for life for no reason and that's gonna be so unfair and in what way would he even be able to get unbanned? how would the player prove that he/she is not cheating? that's gonna be a problem..
@@21EC im more concerned about hackers. Imagine what they could do if they got a hold of this profile they find your identity and information no matter what game you play or what account it will all be linked together. Imagine if they can hack the system and force it to flag players as using cheats. This could fix everything or make everything worse
@@iansteben-bush1037 Well, in reality both cases are worrying..it's worrying to get banned for no reason but it's surely also worrying that there are hackers that can hack accounts or use hacks in games to have an advantage over other players.
@@iansteben-bush1037 I know one thing for sure and that I won't ever want to get banned unfairly if I play clean just to get the rest of people protected from real hackers, how is that fair? and why is that ok if it's not fair?
This is so true. In Halo Infinite we could tell who was cheating because the cheaters would have amazing aim but lack the tactical nuance of the FPS genre. We were always like “there’s no way someone could be this good at the game and be so bad at environmental interaction.
There’s an issue with that that exists also in fighting games.. you suspect someone is cheating but actually they just spend most of their time in practice mode doing the hardest stuff. So you get hit by super difficult combos and crazy reaction punishes but they have no strategy whatsoever because they did not learn any. I think the same thing exists in FPS with aim trainers being so accessible and popular now, there’s even forge maps for it.
@@connorcook2338 this is especially true on fps like csgo and val. Im pretty high ranking and I can tell whenever someone is cheating. Had a teammate one time who couldnt even jump from heaven to generator on ascent but still hit 1 taps even when his crosshair placement was so bad
@@godw1ll99 What are you a gaslighting cheater? Aim is large parts game sense (hearing enemies, crosshair placement, knowing the map and common spots ect), so if a guy is aiming at the ground, wandering carelessly through high risk areas, not being efficient, but one shots your team in the head all the time with an impossible K/D, that's a pretty safe manual ban. Good players switching games still keep their FPS skills. Aim training before ever playing FPS games would not translate to god tier aim because you'd be a headless chicken for possibly weeks and months
False positives will be an absolute nightmare to deal with. "Oh you got banned, and wanna know why? Well our AI model said you are, but we can't tell you why, because we don't know".
Well, we do. Its based on the engagements they have in the game and how many were detected to have been cheat-assisted over a certain threshold. On a large enough dataset, that's absolute statistical certainty but likely you wouldn't even have to get to that to make a 99.997% accurate call.
If I had to guess, a better way to use it would be for the AI to automatically flag (or suspend if it's cheating real hard) an account and for a human to review it before deciding on the ban.
finally someone with some damn sense lmao. anyone who has a drop of experience with ML knows this wont work and I'm speaking as a game dev trying to release a multiplayer FPS 💀
I quit pvp in 2016 because of that, and it was less back then. Now even pve is having problems with a lot of cheater and i just think singleplayer games is the only thing i will continue to play
@@zackfoster3208 I kept going strong with pvp probably until 2021, and I pretty much quit because I thought I must really suck! But yeah, I enjoy single player games because you can always go back and they are Exactly how you remember them! Pvp either the servers close, or the player base dies, or too many blatant cheaters.
It's because it's false lmao. He has something to sell so he need chock value to maximize this add. But it seems that it's for a good cause so it's ok ( I guess ). I have an ok rank in apex and cs go and really rarrelly encounter cheaters tbh. Maybe it depend on the game idk
I can tell you there are because EVERY new game I play, that is freshly released, the first few days I absolutely dominate players, I'm natural good at it. And then after a short period of time I get players that outright SOMEHOW know all the angles, SOMEHOW mastered some insane recoil patterns and while mowing down people left, right and center, I come across one person who feels like god himself is guiding his right hand. That's not normal, 10-15 years ago I used to be just as good as I am now, dominating new releases, but instead of dominating for a few days, I used to dominate for weeks, months in some games like Tribes Ascend. You can't tell me people JUST happen to be "better" at games nowadays, no, they're aiming and holding angles akin to a 0.1% rainbow six siege player who's played for 5 years, all that within a week of a game's release, nah. Can't wait for this project to be successful so I can finally watch them cry again.
@@Mario583a bro, server side ai anticheats are the best solution to the kernel level anticheat problem. Many linux users would much rather prefer an AI on the server side, than a rootkit on their pc. Every single question on reddit or other site that talks about kernel anticheats has people suggesting this exact solution presented in this video, this includes linux users.
@@iFlxyhave you ever heard security-in-depth? You really think game dev with kernel anti cheat don't already implement server side detection? Security needs layers, adding AI is just adding another layer. You would want as much layer as possible.
No, because it would no longer matter if people are using a cheap arduino color detection aimbot, or a fancy PCIe based DMA aimbot. You would just look at their gameplay file, server side . It no longer matters what hardware they are using. No need for layers of security.@@bltzcstrnx
It's actually not perfect. One thing you still can do is to create a heck of a lot of false-positives. So for example you can login and behave like a bot and it will flag your signature as "bot", that data increases others' chance at being incorrectly flagged as well because the movements were in fact made by a person. So login, then run backwards suddenly turn and shoot at a player then get shot, do this maybe 50 times, you get banned as a cheater, your profile then causes natural pixel variations to have a higher likelyhood of being flagged leading to people complaining about the anti-cheat system. That would be a general flaw of continuously trained neural networks in general. If they don't allow constant training of the model then you can once again simply train a model from the footage of the best players and implement your bot to emulate those patterns that won't be flagged. The only real solution is to control tge hardware and location and monitor biological signs like breathing, heartrate, rate of blinking and a complete correlation with user input. Otherwise the data is simply indistinguishable or insufficient to accurately determine the difference 100% of the time. So what this software will instead do is to drive the prices of better A.I. cheats higher and make useless more generic ones. Anyways just my 2 cents.
@@erdemmemisyazici3950 I'm not really a programmer, but since it was possible to create an AI that recognizes cheats with ease, wouldn't it also be possible for said AI to be trained so that it detects this type of tampering and disregards the information?
A.I is already researching diseases and tech and giving humans a better understanding. A.I is doing far more good than just this. The propaganda by power hungry corporations would mislead us to believe otherwise. A.I is our friend.
hard coded exceptions will be noticed immediately and they will have to be explained. That much is certain because the AI developer doesn't actually have "a legal budget" to fight the lawsuits incoming due to talent agencies filing claims against regarding them hurting their business model and revenue stream. arguments like "oh so you have no prior experience catching cheaters in a game", "oh so this is your first time trying this", and "did you know our streamer made 250,000 last year and now they can't make money because we think your program made a mistake? Are you prepared to pay us if you're wrong? You don't even have to think very hard about it, you can be certain they don't have the legal budget to fight that in court.
@@ZeroTheOneWing it's called a reasonable argument because if you are using AI to interfere with a company's revenue stream - talent agencies managing streamers you will have a lot to answer for if you claim "they're cheating" and therefore should be permanently banned on twitch forever. What part of that is "shallow" to the extent of you not comprehending that simple fact?
@@campsitez2355The thing is, you can't sue a cyber security company for providing a service paid for by a game studio. That's like a streamer being banned from Rainbow Six for hacks and they go after Battle Eye even though Ubisoft are the ones that control the bans. Even if it can be proven that it 'hurts a revenue stream', the development company would also be involved in the case as a defendant as they acquired the service and paid for it, their actions directly resulting in the ban. Which, depending on the company, would be way more than enough of a shield to protect the cyber security company in question.
Bruh its going to ban alot of innocent "actually good" players. Its no where near perfect and i can never be because it doesn't take individuals data and learns individually. It compares it over millions of players, and of course there is going to be a guy plays 90% similar to you (yes there are people who play just like you somewhere it's obvious, even if youre the 1%), and youre going to be banned for no reason.
It's amazing to me the genre isn't more dead. Like how is it so popular when cheating is this ubiquitous?? I'm in the same spot, haven't really played any fps seriously in several years. Because why bother?
@@rollerr it only bothers me if its obvious.. otherwise i just think they're better than me.. it doesnt really change anything, after all its just game. does anyone REALLY actually care? i don't
@@sergsergesrgergseg They aren't better than you, though. And they're doing things no legit player would actually do. You're effectively not actually playing the game as it's designed if you're playing vs a cheater. That's the problem.
I feel like there is more then one way to help, spreading the word of this program and making it known to the gaming community at large could really help it out and speed it along
It's a war between AI now! The ones that imitate humans vs the ones that tracks 'human' bots. It could go forever but at one point cheater would have to play their games with no human input whatsoever. Even them may find it a bit braindead and get bored. Their is hope.
If this actually catches on and makes its way into more and more games, I'll have no problem going back to Siege. I quit playing years ago because of how annoying the cheating was. Finally, my nipples are at peace.
Oh especially macros are the worst type of cheating.. aimbot, esp, whatnot atleast it's really easy to tell but when it comes to macro is like hello ubi plz do something
That Bio-Profile was something my friends and I had been throwing around for a while (we're devs and I have extensive experience with ai programming). I'm really happy someone is finally doing it and I hope large companies catch on... Hopefully, these companies and admins aren't corrupt/whitelisting people.
@@soso-tf1kd No, that's like scaling an image. The pixels may change or distort, but the same general trends will still occur. At a micro-level, ai can detect all of these.
There should be absolutely NO way they can whitelist people by say, not having them monitored by an AC. Wait and see how many of the well known streamers will be banned as soon as the ai AC gets there lol
This is scary. This is type of tool which could be used for further monitoring of every person. Honestly if this comes to games I might stop playing them
Im 35 now, and have been involved in esports most of my life, starting from an early age. I was always involved in Anti-Cheat for various esports leagues throughout my years. It was always such a disheartening duty that had to be done. It has always been such a battle, every time you would get ahead, there would be new cheats. The gaming industries have always supported the cheating companies since the very beginning. I've seen it first hand. I love what I see but I'm always afraid of too good too be true. But if this is real, it will ruffle some feathers. I hope everyone involved in this project stays safe. I hope this comes into the standard of gaming, it makes me emotional just thinking about it.
@@darktoranaga cheats in single player make perfect sense. It's your game, you have fun however you want. Multiplayer completely defeats the purpose. There's no reward for your advancement in skill
I used to play tarkov with friends who were trash at the game. Like complete garbage. Then one day out of the blue they tell me they're all cheating and have been for years. For them they got joy in hiding a secret successfully. For me I got to find new friends.
I've come close to quitting gaming over cheaters. It's not just running into a blatant hacker, it's the subconscious jaded mindset that comes with it. All of a sudden every questionable moment is potentially a hack in your mind. There is no more, oh he was just better. You get this angry reactive thought that just brings you down mentally that it's probably hacks so why bother anymore, or try to get over it and enjoy what you can. I hope this is possible.
This is exactly why I quit gaming, I was top tier player in my game and at the height when cheating was rampant everyone was so paranoid that every match became an ''upload demo'' request at the end. It's not so much the cheating that gets to you, it's the paranoia that every team you're playing against could be cheating easily and you'd never know if they're good at hiding it. It just became too much to handle and I just rage quit. This was almost 10 years ago. Nowadays there's more cheating than ever, I can't imagine myself being a legit player in the high leagues, it'd ruin me.
@@fador1337 I tried rgl team fortress 2 for the first and last time, guy was playing sniper and I had a feeling he was cheating and our team decided to bring it up. Sure enough, a month or so later he gets banned for cheating. That just destroyed my interest in competitive gaming, why even bother if scumbags like that dude are gonna cheat.
I don't know why you guys get so frustated over it, you CAN'T do anything about it just keep on keeping on and fuck them hoes cheating because they garbage. If a guy cheats because he's ass, know that you're better than him. End of story
I bought Call Of Duty 2 at around Christmas time along with an Xbox, I was almost going to send the Xbox back and get my money back but decided not to as I was playing DMZ a lot and found value in this. I was going into team deathmatch, kill confirmed etc and even though I was on Xbox I was getting auto aimed, so what I do now to piss off the cheaters BIG time is to go in with a riot shield along with the throwing knife and wait for them to reload or just give up shooting then use the throwing knife to kill them. This absolutely infuriates them as they "GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111ONEONEONEONE" and scream into the microphone. Ain't my problem they decided to use cheats-so I'm going to use stuff that is available to me in the game to try and mitigate it.
I love this. Ive been playing c.s sence 1.3 and i have never experienced this many cheaters online before. I tried cheats for 2 days in cs 1.6 too se what it was all about, it sucked. I hope this gets widespread asap so everyone can have fun on a level playing field again ❤😊
People are getting hyped because one side is getting a bigger gun, but this is still just an arms race. I can throw around generic AI terms, as though they were a panacea too: If you use AI to classify me I'll just use AI to create a different classification, then use AI to classify how you're classifying me and boom, I've defeated AI-defeating AI, for good.
@@jakedespppp Yes, but I never saw proof, I am very use to using everything at my disposal to get a certain outcome, so I just don't believe such a system would be fool proof.
It will never happen and these 2 random people in the video do no posses the inhuman skill to create an Ai that is so OTHERWORLDLY perfect and omnipotent and intelligent! If 2 random fucks could create something as futuristic as that, than we would have many many more AIs be present in our lifes. But we cant even create an AI that is intelligent enough to track the road and cars good enough in order to be safe enough to steer the car on its own. But these two random no-names are going to create a literal demi-god of an AI in a couple months? Okay dude.
I dont understand how people take anything in this video seriously. The whole "playstyle ban" thing is complete bs. Your playstyle changes with your settings, your gear, your skill... Also, 30% cheaters???? Thats 33 cheaters in a battle royale lobby. Wtf
I honestly didn't expect a video about cheaters to be so dramatic but thank you for making it. I knew people were cheating but it never occurred to me how many people we're doing it.
@@JimmieCrackCorn316 These are likely the cheaters which tells me if they got rid of micro transactions they'd get rid of most of the cheaters. I think gaming companies know this but, they want to have their cake and eat it too. They will not get rid of all the cheaters. They need some to make a profit in Asia and Brazil.
As someone who has never cheated and never would this is so huge. I have wanted to get into multiple games such as rust/Tarkov and couldn’t enjoy for lack of knowing if the game was rigged against me.
I played rust and tarkov and I can say by my experience that i havent encountered cheater on rust (maybe in 10 wipes 2 had cheaters in NA servers) Same for tarkov (from around 100 games maybe 2 had cheaters that killed me, Colombian server) IDK how it is in other regions but at least if u try to play in colombian servers, there will not be (almost) cheaters
@@MegaHayzen but how do you know this? Or you don't count the cheaters that avoided you? In order to recognize them you at least need to have some cheating tools yourself, ESP at a minimum to see how everyone aims and moves. There is no legitimate way to see if someone might be cheating in Tarkov, unless the devs implemented replays already. For this you need info that non-cheaters don't have access to.
I'm same as you and I play Apex legends and battlefield. I do very well and I would love to see how I dominate when hackers are gone....those cheating shits
@@MegaHayzen from my experience, if you can't detect them then your not a pro or have not played 5000 hours plus. Trust me you learn to very quickly detect them when you know what angles are legit and u know every corner of every map better than your own house.
I dont understand the mentality of a cheater, like how is it fun for you to use hacks to win? I can't even think of an analogy that's absurd enough. It's like the game with 3 cups and an object under one of the cups, you put the object under and then try to guess which one has the object. How is that fun for people?
been gaming alot and i love tarkov, but the cheaters really made it unplayable for me, i lose my stuff and money is such a hassle. i have over 1300hours on the game and i dont even know how many times ive died of a cheater its too many. i really hope this gets implemented soon into the games. thank you for the video and bringing hope
@@elimgarak1127 or just start allowing console players be able to use M&K. Cuz tbh every game i can think of that has crossplay allows you to turn it off.
It isn't entirely skill based even if that happens, because of ping delay & the software you use can also create ms delay. Plus humans are genetically designed differently, meaning some people are naturally quicker response wise & others cannot compete no matter how hard they try. The world will never be equal, it wasn't created that way, it was meant to be chaotic.
This video hyped me up like crazy, I have always hated and always will hate any kind of cheating in any video game and hearing this makes happy af. Obviously this is only the start but I believe that the future is bright with this technology.
ai is too costly and also kinda a REALLY bad thing for the enviroment, especially rn companies aren't finding any monetary value in AI. so i think AI is slowly declining
Probably just another fraud company trying to cash in on the AI hype train. I honestly don't understand why people throw all skepticism and logic out the window the second they hear the term AI and start blindly believing wild claims based on zero evidence.
We had a project in a company I founded back in 2014 doing this for CS:GO. We parsed thousands of games and trained AI models with really good results. Unfortunately we had to close for other reasons and the project kept unfinished. Good luck 🤞
@@Lee___H it is abandoned in one of the hard drives of the company. We had a nice parser for cs:go matches made in Rust, fairly quick compared to the C# outdated one that was at the time. We had also few services that were downloading all daily FaceIt matches as well as suspect revision and custom matches, by using different cheats we research back in the days. As well as a service that automatically was uploading and triggering a parsing pipeline. Tons of TB in game matches. With that data the model we trained was able to determine with certainly good accuracy if a player was using a subtle cheat. Blatant ones were very easy. Last year I was recovering back a non related project and found one of the PDF we made to summarize the project (Pandora was the name btw). It shows all kind of detections (trigger, rcs, etc) we collected more than 650 different values per player, as well as absolute control of trajectory variation per tick, weapon and player. There was a domain prepared can’t recall amisuspect or cheating or similar, the idea was to have a database of people being analyzed and demos being sent. One curious thing is we did analyze pro player demos as well, results were surprising. One of the good aspects of the system is it could retroactively determine if someone used cheats. As in, if you play at pro level having your match is the same as giving your blood when competing with bikes. Anyway, in the end it was a side project, kind of a dream. I had the illusion of giving the community a beam of hope. But we financed ourselves with services as contractors in another type of activity and the dream remained in oblivion.
@@T0MMYNAT0R they have said that they have more big things to announce regarding Counter-Strike 2, and they've supposedly used deep learning for their anti-cheat since 2018 so it's safe to assume that they do.
Seeing your own biometric gaming data would be a huge help for people who are trying to improve at games. Imagine if you could have an AI gaming coach that could help you figure out what you're doing wrong by comparing your gameplay style to top performers.
@@BobOrKlaus I know but I was referring to one that uses the data footprint that basically was talking about in the video. Any AI that uses data driven performance will do better with a larger dataset.
This was such an amazing video, Thank you Homeless. I hope with all of my heart that Ubisoft will implement this for my game Rainbow Six Siege. Currently we are infested with cheaters
I am crying....this is the must beautifull thing i've seen in my last 8 years of gaming, a spark of hope, in one of the darkest times of FPS multiplayer games.
It really is a dead scene in the sense of actually testing your own skills against others. I'm convinced, there is no good players in FPS anymore with one exception - "pro's" who really aren't pro's but semi pro at the game trying to make money. I'm 33 years old, been at multiple lans back in the days, when FPS scene was kind of clean before all the huge money prices. I'm convinced a good FPS player would seen this cheating scandal many many years ago, as I did. And what did I do? I quit FPS games for good, so it's only natural for me to think other good player would quit the game or worse, start cheating themselves. The one's who's playing FPS games and are not cheating will always be noobs. I can't understand how a good player can't tell. I've been in many conversations about cheating years ago with friends, talking about flusha blatantly hacking etc in CS:GO - no one of them took me serious and I was left very confused, how someone so blatant can fool people I respect. Guess what? were there is big money prizes, you will find cheaters/corruption. SPECIALLY in a world were you can hide behind a computer, and there's really no clear laws on the subject. This is a perfect opportunity to make money if you have no honor. I'm sad FPS scene is long gone, I loved FPS games.. and still after watching this video, I have no hope for it. LAN's are not even setup right to make sure of a cheat-free event with HUGE money prizes. Players can't bring anything to a LAN, not their mice, not their keyboard, not their headset.. nada. And the one's holding the LAN should buy every mice that of the individuals that are in the event - same for keyboard etc. No LAN event is doing it. I'm 100% they are aware of the cheating issue, and they're all making $$$$ out of it. The whole thing is so stupid, but what I'm most disappointed of is how many people who think there isn't a massive cheating scandal inside of not only public FPS games, but the "pro" scene. Take a look at warzone twitch page, find the most popular streamer.. ANY of them. Blatant cheater. I mean u have to be a inbred not to see it. I'm amazed how I managed to get to level 10 in faceit CSGO without any cheat. I guess I'm just a god.
Well uh the sad part is that in the same way this cheat detection is improving, the cheats themselves are also improving. This is a war that will never end
@@zoneshift sure, but if you have to write an AI to make you appear as human, it'll basically just be some aim assist at that point. Any kind of repeating patterns would be detected.
I really really REALLY want to be hopeful for this project. I’m concerned about it’s potential effectiveness, but I’m grateful that something is being done to combat cheaters.
Homeless, this is the breakthrough video you needed to take your channel to the next level. ❤ been watching since the seige days im so glad to see you still going
The issue is that those tools can be easily fooled. You can literally prompt ChatGPT with a single copy-paste phrase that will spoof any detector that exists. I think the anticheat is more promising, especially due to the biometric profile
the problems with AI like that is that hard-coded exceptions will exist for top streamers because of the fact that their agency will sue you if you get them banned and prevent them from making money. This is how this cheating problem basically manifested itself. Zlaner cheats, everyone knows it. Biffle cheats, everyone knows it, Wagnificent cheated and still cheats, everyone knows it. What's the one major factor linking them all? Twitch would lose money if they banned any of them. Activision would lose "social exposure" if they banned them. Activision doesn't care so long as people are just talking about the game which is likely why they [the company that created any game with 3rd party cheats] paid that one guy to do a Tarkov video... it isn't about creating a good game at that point, it's only about making money.
Detecting Chat-GPT responses is damn near impossible, because the model was trained on normal human language, and therefore produces normal human language. It's not producing something abnormal or impossible for a human to make, it's just writing English sentences.
@@crewd00d you can actually still tell using a method called fingerprinting. ChatGPT is just predicting the next token in a list of possible tokens. ChatGPT can then tweak the probabilities of the tokens by a small percentage for probable words, and a large percentage for improbable words. This then means that there will be a very faint fingerprint left behind which can tell you if it was generated using it. OpenAI probably has given universities access to the tool to detect it.
This should be a priority for every FPS. Hackers are the biggest reasons casual players don't play a lot, nobody has fun dying within one minute of spawning because of insanely impossible shots or immediately being seen by wallhackers (they literally start running to you from quite a distance, planning the perfect way of getting to you and you don't even see them shooting you, they already know which side you have teammates on, so they can avoid everything that would've otherwise stopped them.)
This made me so happy, I almost had tears in my eyes. Man I am playing fps for 15 years now, and there were so many shady and obvious situations that made me or my friends mad and just quit the game. It took so much fun from all of us. This is a chance to get it back! I am supporting this.
I've been playing video games and fps for almost 30 years, I've never felt the need to use cheats. but I must say that it is frustrating to know that this phenomenon is so widespread.
Literally my thoughts, I always knew there were cheaters, I mean in the past they were more obvious, but now this... makes me love single-player games more lol
And the system sounds scary as fuck. Just from playing games it can give you a unique ID! That means it can easily be implemented to do the same with comments or general browsing habits. There will be zero anonymity online. And with the "it will keep you banned thing"... good luck being one of the few legit players who accidentally gets flagged and will be banned from all games forever. This shit is exactly why Dune in its story had the "Butlerian Jihad", AIs were fully controlling the population.
@@Syntax_Error_404 This is actually nearly impossible to do. You would have to pwn the computer of all the players in the lobby or somehow intercept, decrypt and alter the traffic going out from those machines. So I wouldnt worry to much about that. Also there is no need to use AI to do that.
I really hope something is done about these cheats and that these AI anti-cheats actually work. I'm over here imagining a doomsday scenario where people would have to physically record their hands playing a game in order to verify legitimacy.
Fortunately by having it constantly learn, it'll learn as much from successful bans than it will out of mistakes. Mistakes can still be reversed by human intervention and the AI will learn to look out for that scenario. Hopefully with it built into games you won't have to worry about any checks, because their system will have all it needs. And if it goes majorly wrong and a company doesn't reverse it, then it's pay out time.
@@WhittaII Ah yes, as TH-cam has proven, human intervention is very common and will definitely aid in reducing false positives. Especially in the case of ESP in more recent shooters where footsteps are so loud you can track people perfectly from a mile away with any $50+ headset, something I’m sure the AI will be able to tell apart from wallhackers.
@@onemorescout And what prevents AI cheats from attempting to counter recognition by modifying the "gamer finger print" or intentionally appearing more human? I just don't see why a computer cant attempt this - its literally the point of AI, to do things we cant; including to appear human when its not.
@@onemorescout you realize that audio you’re hearing is just data the ai is probably already going to know if it’s actually integrated into games like they’re mentioning.
Yup, today marks the day where I stopped playing FPS games. I can't be bothered anymore. It doesn't help that so many ignorants deny blatant cheaters. There are so SOOO much more cheaters than people think. The wiggle that killed Tarkov? Well, I knew the cheating was bad before, no one believed me. I wish I could have seen the dumb looks on the people I used to play with when they saw it. I'm going full on back to singleplayer games. Literally, can't play ONE evening without thinking once "Man, I will get killed by cheaters anyway all the time." Long live singleplayer games!
The unique biometric profile thing is quite scary, as it can inevitably be linked to player accounts containing personal information. I’m sure then there will be people wanting to look at the gameplay of individuals to surmise behavioral characteristics. Like looking back at the GTA play of a tool schooter to determine if there are “red flags” that could then be used to identify others playing the game who show similar patterns. The privacy concerns aside, this sounds like a great solution.
the most that might be is some experts really trying to find out if playing a game a certain way might actually help people understand the psyche of a person, buuuuuuutt similar tests have already been done so nah. and other than that, there's nothing to be worried about???
@@jeffboy4231 I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss it. They’re already selling, for profit, 23+me dna shit for research of all types. While I agree that the data they might garner from “play style analysis” is meaningless, it doesn’t mean they *wont try* to use it. Doesn’t mean they won’t build profiles from it. Doesn’t mean they won’t sell those profiles for profit to third parties who want it. Character background checks are a thing. Imagine an elementary school teacher applying for a job, and having their “play style and interest profile” available to the background check company. Gamers know that said teacher could be an insanely demented and vicious GTA player without that meaning anything for their real life kindness and skill with children…but non gamers might see that and assume they’re not a good teacher and they might be insane. My concern isn’t really with how the justice system would use that data, for the most part video games have repeatedly won in court and precedent has been set for keeping what/how someone plays out of legal judgements…but the court of public opinion is a different story. Every tool schooter that plays video games always ends up on the news with some shit like “played violent video games” coming out of the talking heads mouths. Imagine some guy decides to drive his car through a crowd of people, and the prosecutors find out through his biometric gaming profile that in the days leading up to the event, he had repeatedly “practiced” the event in GTA. You think they wouldn’t use that as proof of premeditation? Of course they would! I firmly believe that games don’t reflect a persons true nature, but they can sometimes, and I fear that building biometric profiles of how gamers play can absolutely be twisted and abused to wrongly judge someone’s character in the real world. The media has a field day every time a new GTA comes out, they had a panic attack over the COD airport scene, some countries ban red blood in games…if the data is out there, it will unjustly be used to hurt gamers. Maybe not in court, but definitely outside of it. How long till kids parents can buy their kids profile, and suddenly the angsty teen who unwinds with games, and maybe kills civilians in Skyrim a little too often, is getting their systems taken away by parents who think their kid is being primed to violence because they don’t understand gaming. It’s a scary premise, and requires the utmost caution by the devs to ensure data is protected, anonymized, and not sold or turned over to law enforcement under any pretext. The road to hell is paved with good intentions…
@@jeffboy4231 I don’t disagree that it wouldn’t be useful data in reality, cause we know that plenty of people are sadists in games and wouldn’t even kill a bug in the real world…but that won’t stop people from trying. They tried with rock music during the satanic panic, they try every time a new GTA drops, etc. The fear/concerns I have are about the way people might try to disingenuously or inaccurately use said data. Data often gets sold freely to whomever wants it, and there’s literally nothing stopping some fringe anti-violent games advocacy group or company providing “child surveillance for parents” from buying said data and doing what they want with it - even if what they do is bullshit. Even if the profiles they make on players are total nonsense based on delusional “analysis”, do you really want to have a profile created on yourself that could be used against you by some bad actor or government?
I'm all for maximizing privacy, preventing data farming, blah blah blah. But the key point here is consent. It being voluntary, for a very good reason, that you are personally benefitting from, is a far cry from some company selling my data to a 3rd party to do with as they please.. As an avid gamer, over the past year cheating has skyrocketed. Its frustrating BS and Im all for any and every measure we can possibly take. I think it should be linked to your verified IRL identity and thus if you ever incur bans, they are tied to that identity and inescapable. Bans should be severe. I.E. 1 year minimum, then 3, then 5. Im also not opposed to any level of monitoring from an anticheat. Kernel, live camera over my keyboard, whatever. Just get these losers out of my matches. There will likely never be a 100% cheating solution but we have multiple methods and we should utilize them. Im surprised there isnt more uproar about it from official entities in the gaming industry. Cheating costs them millions annually in the form of lost revenue from players who quit games over cheaters.
No more cheating 🎉 But this fingerprint thing is kinda scary 😅. Imagine being tracked just by the way you play video games across platforms and time. If the servers save your inputs, you could be identified even years later
Literally only a negative thing if you do bad things…. Just like being scared of the police or authority in general (at least in civilized areas). Just be a good person and you have nothing to worry about
its mannerism based, if you always hide in this one area of miss by margin x, you can change that by training in private, thus generating a new identity
Ive quit fps games 3-4 years ago due rampant cheat waves. It didnt use to be this bad but this video is giving me hope and if it happens ill return like glory days.
The "behavior fingerprint" is kinda scary imagine that you are banned because of a bug or a error by the developers like many other times that someone is unfairly ban. I remember that in diablo 3 the top player is banned bacause everyone is report the poor guy's account just because he is the top one, now imagine if he is banned for the same reason by the new "behavior fingerprint".
i think that the ban wouldn't happen if the IA doesn't detect cheats, if this is that good as they talking about it, the report sistem wont be needed anymore
Will it really be able to fingerprint millions of unique behavioral patterns? I don't know. Modern AIs can utilize ludicrous amounts of data points, explain and predict minute details that humans can't. The finer grain you go, it could be possible. I hope it will also have the leeway for when you have a bad day or change your hardware or keybinds, which is bound to change your patterns, the breadth of habits go wider than a 2 hour evaluation window.
Also imagine changes happen in the game that promote behavior that was originally super suspicious, such as a character with temporary wall hacks. They'd have to kill the behavior profiles any time they do something like that lest they delete the entire playerbase. After all AI only knows as much as it's been trained, it won't intuitively understand the new behavior
Lol. Bro, they already collect your typing patterns and searching patterns via telemetry. The days of opsec are over unless you become a recluse or complete hermit.
I found it funny how I looked at everyone, and you made people guess who was the cheater. Most people who are cheating usually haven't played the game before or barley play it enough to know what benefits them. Husky was so obvious because of a few key details (This is my first time watching this video, and when you asked I had to look back into those clips three times.) 1. He never crouch once which helps for longer ranges giving the recoil control. 2. His corsair never left the neck/head area in most of his clips meaning these cheats were trying their best to move into the head. 3. It was like he knew where people were going to be before getting out of cover with him trying to hide it. (Which this one is majorly a guess to be honest). When it comes to gaming if someone is new/not using the game mechanics that does help the people who know the game you can tell if they are cheating or not by basically looking at certain patterns. (During this time for the comment too) Look at a game like XDefiant a Ubisoft CoD game but with totally different mechanics, movement/gunplay similar to MW2, and a good overall feel you do get teammates at times that don't know how the game works but they are good at aiming but when your opposing team/teammates are doing amazing but doesn't know what half of their abilities or mechanics do yet they went something like 60 - 3 you tend to test a few things. When you do you take notice in many factors that add up to them either cheating or not with a good example of mine being staying behind spawn doors since you can shoot out of them but the opposing team can't shoot into them. I've ran into three cheaters during that time trying to shoot back, and pre firing out of cover before they even notice me nor has seen me making it obvious they had wall hacks but also in further ranges was hitting my head without couching giving them better recoil control including steerability obviously being aim bot. Take this information as you will.
Awesome video. I think that very soon a lot of very popular content creators are going to be shown as frauds. I'm really excited for it, cheaters are scum.
A couple years ago i would practice my aim every day for an hour straight. i was grinding super hard to be the best i could possibly be, and i was definitely in the top few % of players. but with skill-based matchmaking implementations into every FPS, the better you are, the more cheaters you face. It inevitably caused me to stop playing FPS competitively altogether as i was going insane trying to differentiate between a good player and a cheater every time i was killed. it made it so anti-fun that it completely ruined the experience for me. Now im currently playing a game that has been completely ruined by bots(WoW Classic), and it hurts just as bad. it is refreshing to finally see some good news. My only hope is that big game companies implement something like this in the coming years and save the online gaming industry.
My thoughts go to the idea that it could be a stepping stone for popularizing blocking every account that you make in order to stop someone from having any online presence.
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00:00 Saving FPS Games
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WAN Show - th-cam.com/video/ePQAG4j_e-M/w-d-xo.html
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01:00 Downloading OperaGX will support WALDO.VISION
Submit your clips to help train our AI model - waldo.vision/ (IF THE SITE IS DOWN, BE PATIENT, WE WILL PROBABLY CRASH IT WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC)
02:42 Coming Clean About My Past
04:10 The Final Form of AI Cheats
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05:15 Guess Who’s Hacking
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06:55 How the AI Cheats Work
07:30 G0at Cheated in Tarkov to Catch Cheaters
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08:53 Using Human Behavior Detection in an AI Anti-Cheat
10:05 It Lives
10:23 How does AI Anti-Cheat work?
10:52 What percent of players are cheating?
11:55 Can AI humanized aim assist fool it?
13:10 How long does it take for AI to detect a cheater in real-time?
13:55 Why this is the final solution - Gaming is saved
14:57 Waldo - Visual AI Cheat Detection
15:20 Conclusion
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hi homeless
will download it only cause of this video
Who was cheating in the csgo game with you and your mates? I think i missed it
So what happens if you let your cracked friend play some games on your account?
I am curious as to how / if this AI progrm will account for player growth over time as people get better at games as they play them. As in a 2 hr window of who you are (how you play the game) at the begining of R6 is not the same as who you are (how you play the game) 1000 hrs later.
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Yeah too bad a simple pid controller algorithm w/ or without bezier curves would completely ruin your "detection" not to mention most aimbots are rotational, besides ai aimbots and colorbots that use pixels and usually move in increments less then 40
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What drives me nuts in games like CS and Rust is not the obvious cheaters but the fact that so many people can be closet cheating and you really don't know whether you're just old and getting worse or they could be cheating.
This hit me so hard. Wonderful comment.
Yep, CS cheater paranoia is so bad that it's not really possible to believe someone wrecking you and your team is just good until you go watch the demo for yourself. It shouldn't be like that.
Or you are on m/k , and the build in AA for controllers "assists" them - its just another form of #softwareaim - the software does the work. (dont know if CS or Rust has AA though :-) ).
@@oldmanchipplays.......4413 no aim assist of any sort on pc games bro :)
about 4 or so years ago, maybe a bit more? I quit CSGO, I had participated in large tournaments, and was competing on a semi-pro level. I quit because of cheaters, first of all, there was a Faceit forum post as well as a reddit post with questionaire's asking people if they are cheating and why in a "anonymous manner" obviously it would only be anonymous for other readers of the threads, and yet over 10% of people who participated admitted to cheating. imagine how high that number would've been, had it been truly anonymous. that means on average 1 person was was cheating in every match, who also semi-publicly admitted to cheating. that is an absolute ludicrous statistic. it genuinly shook my tiny brain.
That wasn't the reason though, it was people talking about cheats, the public perception, the reasoning and logic of the cheaters, as well as the accusers or even the sympathisers or deniers.
I think this video explained an element of obvious cheating that 99,9% of players are too insanely stupid to understand, in the example that was given in Tarkov of the legit players vs the cheaters. I have seen dozens of semi-pros take my winnings, and earnings in Online tournaments as well as even LAN tournaments who were some of the most obvious cheaters I have ever seen (lost in the finals in at the time probably the 2nd biggest national LAN tournament to a team who obviously toggled on half way through the game, it stated in the rules that you required to Record a Demo, but their Demo got "corrupted" when they "Disconnected" to toggle, and even with such a blatant rule violation, they werent DQ'd.
Even the top 5% of players match making wise focus on shit like being banged, or shot through smoked, and immediately call cheats, I have hundreds of comments on my profile of people claiming im cheating because they are stepping behind a smoke on banana, and thats either global MM or Faceit level 10 games. meanwhile people who obviously dont check their corners correctly, people who have too much Info when u watch the demo, or even people snapping / aiming at people through walls in RIDICULOUS positions (like Dust 2 Lower dark, ur holding middle, and u randomly turn 140 degrees to snap onto a CT on B site? that has never happened in any other demo I've ever watched, no one would end up with their crosshair there, ever, except of course in a couple of Demos of people like Stewie just before he turned fulltime pro ;) ).
Cheating happens at every level, Pro, Semi-pro (especially) hardcore or casual. I've even had friends I played with turn out to be cheaters (even played an online tournament where one of our ringers turned out to be cheating) it is absolutely disgusting, and I started doubting if anyone and everyone was cheating, all the time. it is not a fun mentality to have, so I quit.
The ai anti cheat is so strong that your computer becomes self aware then just jumps you
Now ya pc is gonna arrest ya😂
wut if ur pc is ur toilet ?!
cpu explodes after computing soo much data
@@zachbarker5354 giga based pc fighting cheating
It delivers 80MW of power through the mouse upon detection.
10 months later and this still isn't in any games, and im, once again, googling "fps games without cheaters"
After quitting Tarkov I’m basically wondering if cheating will ever be fixed or if kernel anticheat is really the only fix going forward
@@nicholasbreecher9315 unfortunately kernal doesn't even work for modern cheats that take place outside of your system
True i Googled has anyone tried to sue game companies for not doing anything about cheating and the answer is no
Best way for reduce cheaters by 99% is consolle and playing in private servers
@BlancoMD console had Kronus and other devices that helped you cheat. On top of that you're using aim assist, noob.
I would quit gaming before cheating in online games.
It hurts my heart that people are so dishonest.
Unfortunately stopped playing competitive games because of how rampant it is. Finally glad to see AI on the defensive
I think the word you meant to use was, dishonorable.
@@consoleoftexas no
They live without honor or morals
I don't see the appeal either, unless youre like, getting money for it, but other than that it just seems like it'll get boring.
I think another thing that makes AI anti-cheat so interesting to me, is that it can very easily be 100% server ran which means less privacy concerns compared to current anti-cheats that look at everything on your device
never even thought about this. Thats huge actually.
Yes thats amazing, but then without these biometric profiles, which frankly scar me, given that most valuable data will eventually leak out to some third party.
@@holthuizenoemoet591 Im all for data privacy but I'm not sure how the biometrics of how you play games would be a security issue. What could someone do with that.
it would make a lot of games work on linux
@@gearedguardian I can't think of a concrete example either, but i can speculate a bit. The thing I'm worried about is that they can infer information about how your brain works, its like a brain benchmark similarly to for example an IQ test, but now for kinetic skills, stress resistance, visual and auditorial processing, spatial awareness etc. This would be interesting in for example countries like china where they like to closely monitor their citizens, including the development of children.
I spent nearly 10 years working in Triple A playing that Cat and Mouse game on the defenders side.
This new AI direction is some of the most compelling stuff I've seen in a long time.
Finally a solution that doesn't require Kernel access.
If AI can spot "too perfect" then AI can also be trained to seem less perfect. The chase will continue, it will just look different.
kernel access isn't a solution either
I didn't understand the end. I think he meant it will detect your movements vs. a imprint of your cheating so that your next account will be insta-banned within minutes once it sees the same patterns. But what if they use different cheats or had a different mouse? Also this doesn't seem to address auto-trigger type cheating where you're actually decent at aim but you don't have to have any timing so you can just flick. I want to believe this will work and is coming soon, I'm not sold yet.
Blue team Shot First on going into kernel
@@sleepydragonzarinthal3533 oh yeah? good luck with that people spend their money to support the anti cheat ai, you would have to be crazy to support a project that would ruin fps games and spend ur money on it. Like cheaters maybe are stupid but they will understand that if everyone was hacking then your hacks dont mean anything
The reason why I avoid multiplayer fps games is that cheating is very rampant but after seeing this vid, it made me happy and excited for the future of gaming in general.
Yeah I just quit CS2, It felt like 1/3 of them were cheating and I guess I was right.
Just a homeless guy changing the world, one line of code at a time. Truly inspiring.
Unironically God bless you man. This epidemic of cheaters has been eating at my soul. And its been years of gaslighting by companies and streamers telling us that cheaters are not a big issue. But people at high levels of play like us on in the trenches every day seeing it happen with our own eyes. Thank you bro. I could actually cry right now, salvation is upon us.
The big challenge is going to be to convince companies to not access the revenue stream of ppl buying new game copies due to being banned for cheating
just a game bro
@@willmcclard206 JuSt A gAmE bRo 🥴
"But people at high levels of play like us on in the trenches every day..."
Humblebrag much? Most people are average players, not "high levels", and average players take it on the chin a lot more than "high level" players.
Exactly man I never thought everyone who was cheating who beat me but I knew it was way more than these companies would ever admit.
The really insane part is they can look back over old clips of gameplay and determine if cheats were used. Pros and streamers beware, you WILL be caught. Don't use cheats.
Pin this plz
Rip Nadia and Zemie
I'm excited to see which of the "pros" are just good liars
@@Ikbeneengeit a lot more than you think
Flusha shaking in his boots 😂
I'm holding back actual tears of joy to hear cheaters being able to be banned FOR LIFE. that is unbelievably appealing. Please keep up
I feel ya brother. This gives me real hope
if you mean the biometric profile thing then, you could use counter-AI to change your default behaviors to bypass this biometric profile, but this will make it a lot harder for most cheaters.
im sorry to break it to you but a determined cheater will still be able to bypass this there is no 100% foolproof anti cheat
@@0nullBitvast majority of cheaters aren’t determined cheaters
thats true but its enough for one smart guy to do it and pass it on or sell it @@ijustyap
I imagine this will be used to retro-actively look for cheaters in the pro scene... They must be absolutely SHOOK right now.
I do worry for those who cheated when they were 15 and at the age of 30 havent touched cheats since then. Statute of limitations, perhaps? At what point do we give people another chance?
@@JB-iz8tf nope. You made shty choices? Live with them. Welcome to the planet.
@@kenosabi I am not saying there shouldnt be consequences - I am saying that the punishment should match the crime. You don't say, "Hey you sold drugs, prison for LIFE." There is a statute of limitations and there is an accurate and equal punishment. I have never cheated, but I still have empathy and want a fair system in place. Lots of 15 year-old kids were stupid, probably yourself included. Punishment should fit crime.
@@kenosabi Looks like we've found someone of impeccable morality, a true bastion of good will who has never committed an act of wrong doing throughout their entire life. Do they ship you Nobel peace prizes in bulk?
@@kenosabidamn bro guess you never made a mistake ever lol, you do stupid things when you're young, s1mple cheated when he was 15, now he's the best cs player in the world
If this goes through, it'll be so refreshing to play a game and just KNOW that nobody is cheating. Might pick up FPS's again.
Lol it’s going to be so fun cheating with this active. The whole scene is already excited to beat it.
@@G-G._ human beating ai lol not a chance
@@G-G._ Imagine that you have to cheat lmao
@@G-G._ Ur just bad at the game
@@MrMatGaming-dz4rw ai cheats vs ai anticheats
I’ve been false banned multiple times(unbanned too) on overwatch and hearing this is actually a dream. To know for certain everyone on the top of the leaderboard is legit would be great motivation to play a game competitively
It would motivate so many to pick up competitive gaming again, people don't realize just how many good players quit because of cheating and because they didn't want to stoop to cheating themselves to stay competitive.
@@fador1337 me and a group of about 10 people played R6 religiously for about a year after realease. then we typically shut down at about 10:30 at night because thecheating became so obvious around that time. and then eventually we all stopped playing.
thats the problem of an AI like this. It will be unusable in real life cause it's not 100% accurate.
@@DailyConsumerHub braindead take. No anticheat is 100% accurate, but this one is far better than everything that's ever come before it
Its really nice idea but this is what I am mostly scared about. Its really bad if people get false banned. My steam account is false banned and that sucks.
I always considered it a compliment when accused of cheating, and beating known cheaters was always such a rush. Yet, I'm excited for future generations who can experience games finally purged of the plague
There's another problem that is not talked about when it comes to online gaming. And that is hardware differences, because in FPS's it matters a lot who get the hit first and who avoids the opponents hits. The only way you can really find out your true skill is if you play LAN matches against players with the exact same hardware, otherwise it could just be that your computer and internet connection gives you an unfair advantage over your opponent.
@@YeeLeeHaw Considering how small a time frame a 30-60 ping is it doesn't really matter in 99.9999% of the cases. Your hardware might have had an effect on the game in the old days but most FPS games that run smoothly and have decent servers nowadays give little to no difference on hardware. Your eyes for example cant see the difference between 120 fps and 140 fps. It starts to blur out at 60 fps since the max is about 30-60 fps that your eyes can differentiate. Anything over that might look smoother for some but doesn't give any real advantage since you are physically unable to process it yourself.
@@hurmuli8947 No, you are talking about reaction time, I'm talking about the data getting from your computer to the server and being processed slower than your opponent. The fact that you believed I talked about reaction time goes to show you have no clue.
You'd be surprised if you faced the same opponents in a LAN tourney that you play with online, it's a completely different game when everybody are equal.
@@YeeLeeHaw the reaction time is such a larger number in most cases it really doesn't. It matter a lot when I was playing in the early 2000's but it's just not important anymore unless you are playing on a toster oven or connecting to servers hundreds of miles away. Reaction speed isn't even that important beyond a certain threshold because a lot of fire fights come down to crosshair placement and game sense. Reacting 1ms faster doesn't matter if their crosshair is already on your head while you are aiming somewhere else.
@@boontish1104 Read my reply to the first dunce.
I found it odd that even though I never stopped playing video games I continued to get worse and worse. I never considered that it might be the cause of an increase in cheaters and not a decrease in skill. It's probably both though.
As I get older my reactions are slower but my tactical decision making has gotten better (give or take depending on the game and situation). Additionally the longer a game is out, the better the community gets at the game and so the skill ceiling is raised. Take Apex Legends for example since to this day movement tech continues to be discovered and utilized. Just being able to tap-strafe was the height of movement but now you have stuff like super-gliding and mantle jumping that are much harder to pull off. Everyone can do the easy movement and everyone is a lot better at spray control. Basically it's a bit of both.
The cheating has pushed me towards single player and coop fps gaming. I avoid any game with pvp meta even if you don't actually win something in the end.
nah everyone is just getting better, while you are standing still. stop coping.
I know my reaction times a much much worse than they used to be in my twenties. But still, insta beam headshot is why I don't play fps's.
I felt exactly the same as for cs go. I quit playing beacause of it. I felt like I was useless. Maybe this is a good think.
With the biometric profile, it would be cool if we could see people who play almost exactly like us, or also potential teammates that are good matches in which we both compensate for eachother's short comings.
6v6 Moshpit teams: 6 determined campers vs 6 insanely aggressive players
this'd be insane for matchmaking and mmr!
SBMM on meth
You could use counter-AI to change your default behaviors to bypass this biometric profile, but this will make it a lot harder for most cheaters.
@@TradingToolsSoftware Fuuckkk you're right. From the little I've been learned of machine learning I think that's way correct. You could feed your inputs into a machine that converts from your biometric profile into a biometric profile of someone much much better. I'm sure there's issues but I also agree that this is still going to change cheating. At some point, cheating is going to be so sophisticated at replicated real life gameplay that there won't be a discernable difference, and if there isn't a discernable difference then it's not really cheating anymore is it?
Imagine what this could do for computer opponents, such as NPC's in games, essentially enhancing them to a human level! I'm excited to see where this leads in the coming months.
escape from tarkov "scavs/npcs" are super fun already... i cant even imagine how awesome it would be to have AI-controlled npcs!!!
Really fucking bad stuff
@@Judas1911WR1 you sure about that? Sometimes they act like braindead, and then sometimes you gear yourself with meta items and then get shot (head, eyes) from 50m with a buckshot.
npcs that are bots >>>
Imagine a new dificult on games called "game will learn from you" making the game harder as fuck since you teach them
Just taking a second to appreciate Nick's writing... the beginning and the end of this video tie up so smoothly and it's so funny 😂
Congratulations to the legit good players out there. Your honor is about to pay off.
I hope so
Thanks. I have 250 gigs worth of cheat free gameplay to edit and upload now!
@@_B.C_ Save the planet, dont upload every crap... TY!
Finally all those day z cheaters can F off and I’ll go back to playing it again
Maybe not it says it has 99% acc so if youre really good u might just get fucked lol
This is really cool but the way AI can make a profile for any player and study human patterns is kinda scary
No scarier than apps on our phone studying our every pattern in real life to be honest. At least this one benefits us haha
@@WhittaII for real. Looking up you ad preferences on google is eye opening. They know where you are, how long you were there, patterns of where you like to go, etc all from gps data on your phone. It is wild what people dont realize they already know about everyone with a cell phone.
I figure they could just modify the movement, aim etc to essentially change the fingerprint of the profile.... I hope I am wrong, but I imagine it would be pretty tough to use that technology to ban across new accounts.
@@JB-iz8tf sounds pretty risky too, i cant imagine all 7 billion of us have so wildly different movement patterns that this system would be foolproof in the first place
@@mandurrudnam7632 As far as I understand, the movement patterns don't have to be wildly different at all, since it's very advanced AI it can detect even the smallest of differences and as CFG of AnyBrain said they aren't trying to ban every cheater yet first priority is that everyone they ban is a cheater, so I'm not worried about this.
It would be really cool if you could make bots of the player "fingerprints" so you could play against a team of yourself or specific other people
now this.. this is a good idea
doesnt forza have a similar-ish feature when you play against your friends past race times in solo career mode? i only played once so my apologies if im mistaken but thats how i remembered it working
would be soooo good
Like a RT ghost play, but in FPS. Good idea.
that would be such a good way to see your gameplay's flaws and improve
I would pay like 50 bucks a month to play a game i could 100% make sure there are no cheaters in.
The only game that I know of where it’s borderline impossible to cheat in is Valorant. Their anti-cheat is insanely accurate. The rest of games…yeah, not so much
@@sudowtf borderline impossible aka around 100/150 $ a month...
@@harmonyinchaos6381 I have yet to find any cheats that consistently work in Valorant. So far their anti-cheat has operated near flawlessly. Comes at the cost of massive invasion of your system though
@@sudowtfyep their anti cheat Is monster cuz it runs on kernel, but there's still a lot of way to cheat on valorant my cousin literally playing for 3 months now using color aimbot, he use some kind of hardware called Arduino I think.
@@sudowtf yeah. also an insane back door opportunity. If riot ever gets hacked, every, single, valorant installed computer can become a vector for further attacks, got all their shit stole, etc. The fact that people accept kernel level anti cheat is insane to me. Do you have a banking password saved on your computer? Congratulations. All your data is at risk.
At this rate this guy is going to send people to mars in a toilet powered by a calculator
who leaked my video for next month 😠
haha
While he controls it with an old printer
@@smokeydesperado742 with a n64 controller
Sadly I only use macros recoil control its simply impossible to detect not one game ban in rust and yes I've been script checked
I've abandoned multi-player games all together in the past year because it got so bad. I'm glad to see there is hope
yeh i feel ya man
Sounds like another one who only played competitive online games. Not every multiplayer is Pvp. But I can understand, there aren't that many coop options: Warframe, payday 2 and Deep rock galactic are the games that have no (relevant) Pvp and are still alive.
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Valorabt is fine due to how intrusive their anticheat is
You literally play all of your friends and you're the best.
And then you go online and just get DUMPED on, yeah okay.
(I hate online PvP games)
As an old school non cheating gamer this makes me happy. I will be a gaming god when all the cheaters are gone.
Was on a team in source where we had the #1 spot in cal for a bit, thinking of a play space where hackers get caught, banned, and stay banned gets me so FLIPPIN HARD.
I honestly think that after this tech is hopefully everywhere, that the people like you and me who actually have been forced to play against aimbots and remained legit all these years are going to be the greatest fps gamers of all time. Simply because after this tech is everywhere people will no longer be forced into learning how to be faster then cheats. We will finally get the limelight we deserved with the back pay of everyone KNOWING we are legit. No more spam reports from hackers abusing those kind of systems by confusing noobs. OMG I want this now. I pray CS2 uses this.
lmao no you wont. You're still going to be shit on by better players
The last bit of the video is horrifying
@@randoedits6906 im sure you and your one subscriber were on a top level pro comp team but i do agree this tech needs to be everywhere im tired of seeing cheaters in competitive and not having any power to ban them or even have them looked into this will change everything
Cheaters will never be lessened. AI will soon be used to make undetectable cheats and the entire multiplayer gaming industry is about to sink, there is a 100% guarantee that this will happen.
Glad to see this happening. Saw a cheating discord recently & the mods were asking people to push against this by linking the efforts as a violation of data rights. The desperation when money is involved.. Well done & looking forwards to seeing more of this. As FPS games are nearly unplayable currently.
valorants anti cheat literally is an invasion of privacy if they ever get data breached your pc is cooked
Assuming that the server you joined is serious and has more than one neuron and it is true.
nah, seriously how stupid they say that, maybe those mods are terrible at programming, and really what they say is partly true, because it is a bit extreme to give kernel access of your PC to a company, I mean, if it is not enough with Google that not even with that access can determine the direction of your life due to so much espionage, now a company with the potential to do anything with your computer, and that by bad luck has a security breach, well congratulations, your bank details will be in their hands
this for real looks sus, because they can simply use AI for creating cheats for counter
@@Miguel_Angel51 shows that you have no idea at all. NO this is not a concern for privacy or any of that, because the anti cheat only needs THE RECORDING OF YOUR GAMEPLAY, no need for a programm on your pc, opposed to the cheats which are a HUGE privacy concern, because theres a lot of malware around. They are just making up shit because they see this could literally RUIN them. In a very very simple way you can think of this as a "are you a robot?" captcha those works by detecting the way you click the box, a programm CANNOT move like a human, in this case you could probablyx easily trick it, but the gist is that a bot would make your mouse simply teleport to the checkbox and click it. this is the same idea in ai form that analyses millions of hours of gameplay, and as such the difference between minute movements by a software correcting your aim or you just luckily flayling aroung and hitting the random headshot are a difference like night and day, you CANT fake that! the cheats already try to. If your cheat was Ai too it could possibly work, but youd have a SHITTON of ressources and would basically have to programm an entire human to make it play like one... so the only way to beat this is to let an AI play the game, and we dont even have the calculation power to simulate a human brain, so that wont happen for cheats, it would be SOOOOO goddamn expensive its simply not worth!
I'm a bit weary of the "biometric profile" and false bans but we'll see, really looking forward to coming across less cheaters in the future :D
Same...imagine the AI is allucinating that the player is cheating when infact in reality he is 100% clean and just a really good player or being lucky because of the style the player is playing...then what? then that player is going to suffer from a permanent ban for life for no reason and that's gonna be so unfair and in what way would he even be able to get unbanned? how would the player prove that he/she is not cheating? that's gonna be a problem..
@@21EC im more concerned about hackers. Imagine what they could do if they got a hold of this profile they find your identity and information no matter what game you play or what account it will all be linked together. Imagine if they can hack the system and force it to flag players as using cheats. This could fix everything or make everything worse
@@iansteben-bush1037 Well, in reality both cases are worrying..it's worrying to get banned for no reason but it's surely also worrying that there are hackers that can hack accounts or use hacks in games to have an advantage over other players.
Yeah but safety is more important than fairness in video games lol
@@iansteben-bush1037 I know one thing for sure and that I won't ever want to get banned unfairly if I play clean just to get the rest of people protected from real hackers, how is that fair? and why is that ok if it's not fair?
This is so true. In Halo Infinite we could tell who was cheating because the cheaters would have amazing aim but lack the tactical nuance of the FPS genre. We were always like “there’s no way someone could be this good at the game and be so bad at environmental interaction.
why does the ability to put crosshairs on target have to be directly intertwined with some ones ability to strategically navigate in game?
There’s an issue with that that exists also in fighting games.. you suspect someone is cheating but actually they just spend most of their time in practice mode doing the hardest stuff. So you get hit by super difficult combos and crazy reaction punishes but they have no strategy whatsoever because they did not learn any. I think the same thing exists in FPS with aim trainers being so accessible and popular now, there’s even forge maps for it.
@@godw1ll99 you wouldn’t find it suspicious that the movement of a player can be so poor but have top tier aiming?
@@connorcook2338 this is especially true on fps like csgo and val. Im pretty high ranking and I can tell whenever someone is cheating. Had a teammate one time who couldnt even jump from heaven to generator on ascent but still hit 1 taps even when his crosshair placement was so bad
@@godw1ll99 What are you a gaslighting cheater? Aim is large parts game sense (hearing enemies, crosshair placement, knowing the map and common spots ect), so if a guy is aiming at the ground, wandering carelessly through high risk areas, not being efficient, but one shots your team in the head all the time with an impossible K/D, that's a pretty safe manual ban. Good players switching games still keep their FPS skills. Aim training before ever playing FPS games would not translate to god tier aim because you'd be a headless chicken for possibly weeks and months
That last line "Are your nipple getting itchy?" Is literally the best "F you you're getting what you deserve" to all the cheaters
That was some anime type sh*t, that was satisfying.
i hope you know that the line did nothing but amuse us and further reinforce our desire to ruin other people's multiplayer experience
@@F0restcall 🤡🤡🤡
@@F0restcall so you’re openly saying that you’re purposely trying to ruin the experience for everyone else? Why can’t you just play the game lmao
@@dranktflmao you see his profile picture? You know exactly why.
False positives will be an absolute nightmare to deal with.
"Oh you got banned, and wanna know why? Well our AI model said you are, but we can't tell you why, because we don't know".
Yup Because AI said yes!
Well, we do. Its based on the engagements they have in the game and how many were detected to have been cheat-assisted over a certain threshold. On a large enough dataset, that's absolute statistical certainty but likely you wouldn't even have to get to that to make a 99.997% accurate call.
If I had to guess, a better way to use it would be for the AI to automatically flag (or suspend if it's cheating real hard) an account and for a human to review it before deciding on the ban.
Problem is that these cheats are so sophisticated, that you can't really see it by human eye @@TruEchoX
finally someone with some damn sense lmao. anyone who has a drop of experience with ML knows this wont work and I'm speaking as a game dev trying to release a multiplayer FPS 💀
I've been waiting soo long to see a followup video for your anticheating quest. I am very grateful
Gonna tell kids 20 years from now that I played before the AI anti-cheat
Little minds gonna melt
they'll just assume you were a cheater.
Be sure to send hours of gameplay to the website and review other people's footage, that helps the process.
I never knew statistically that there were THAT many cheaters! So much great work being done in this video!
I quit pvp in 2016 because of that, and it was less back then. Now even pve is having problems with a lot of cheater and i just think singleplayer games is the only thing i will continue to play
@@zackfoster3208 I kept going strong with pvp probably until 2021, and I pretty much quit because I thought I must really suck!
But yeah, I enjoy single player games because you can always go back and they are Exactly how you remember them! Pvp either the servers close, or the player base dies, or too many blatant cheaters.
It's because it's false lmao. He has something to sell so he need chock value to maximize this add. But it seems that it's for a good cause so it's ok ( I guess ).
I have an ok rank in apex and cs go and really rarrelly encounter cheaters tbh. Maybe it depend on the game idk
I can tell you there are because EVERY new game I play, that is freshly released, the first few days I absolutely dominate players, I'm natural good at it. And then after a short period of time I get players that outright SOMEHOW know all the angles, SOMEHOW mastered some insane recoil patterns and while mowing down people left, right and center, I come across one person who feels like god himself is guiding his right hand. That's not normal, 10-15 years ago I used to be just as good as I am now, dominating new releases, but instead of dominating for a few days, I used to dominate for weeks, months in some games like Tribes Ascend.
You can't tell me people JUST happen to be "better" at games nowadays, no, they're aiming and holding angles akin to a 0.1% rainbow six siege player who's played for 5 years, all that within a week of a game's release, nah.
Can't wait for this project to be successful so I can finally watch them cry again.
@@tennolife9930 schitzo take ur meds
Finally no kernel-level spyware that is broken on Linux, thank you.
And yet, privacy bros aka Linux guys will be all "Ewww, AI in my game??"
@@Mario583a bro, server side ai anticheats are the best solution to the kernel level anticheat problem. Many linux users would much rather prefer an AI on the server side, than a rootkit on their pc. Every single question on reddit or other site that talks about kernel anticheats has people suggesting this exact solution presented in this video, this includes linux users.
@@iFlxyhave you ever heard security-in-depth? You really think game dev with kernel anti cheat don't already implement server side detection? Security needs layers, adding AI is just adding another layer. You would want as much layer as possible.
No, because it would no longer matter if people are using a cheap arduino color detection aimbot, or a fancy PCIe based DMA aimbot. You would just look at their gameplay file, server side . It no longer matters what hardware they are using. No need for layers of security.@@bltzcstrnx
@@bltzcstrnx Still Linux support might be worth it for one layer less. There are some Linux gamers
finally AI being used for something to better gaming, not thinking of ways to give ppl cheats like most games seem to do nowadays:)
It's actually not perfect. One thing you still can do is to create a heck of a lot of false-positives. So for example you can login and behave like a bot and it will flag your signature as "bot", that data increases others' chance at being incorrectly flagged as well because the movements were in fact made by a person.
So login, then run backwards suddenly turn and shoot at a player then get shot, do this maybe 50 times, you get banned as a cheater, your profile then causes natural pixel variations to have a higher likelyhood of being flagged leading to people complaining about the anti-cheat system.
That would be a general flaw of continuously trained neural networks in general. If they don't allow constant training of the model then you can once again simply train a model from the footage of the best players and implement your bot to emulate those patterns that won't be flagged.
The only real solution is to control tge hardware and location and monitor biological signs like breathing, heartrate, rate of blinking and a complete correlation with user input. Otherwise the data is simply indistinguishable or insufficient to accurately determine the difference 100% of the time.
So what this software will instead do is to drive the prices of better A.I. cheats higher and make useless more generic ones.
Anyways just my 2 cents.
@@erdemmemisyazici3950 they won't be training the ai while its being used
@@erdemmemisyazici3950 I'm not really a programmer, but since it was possible to create an AI that recognizes cheats with ease, wouldn't it also be possible for said AI to be trained so that it detects this type of tampering and disregards the information?
Be sure to send hours of gameplay to the website and review other people's footage, that helps the process.
A.I is already researching diseases and tech and giving humans a better understanding. A.I is doing far more good than just this. The propaganda by power hungry corporations would mislead us to believe otherwise. A.I is our friend.
This sounds incredible. Absolutely revolutionary work from the team.
hard coded exceptions will be noticed immediately and they will have to be explained. That much is certain because the AI developer doesn't actually have "a legal budget" to fight the lawsuits incoming due to talent agencies filing claims against regarding them hurting their business model and revenue stream.
arguments like "oh so you have no prior experience catching cheaters in a game", "oh so this is your first time trying this", and "did you know our streamer made 250,000 last year and now they can't make money because we think your program made a mistake? Are you prepared to pay us if you're wrong?
You don't even have to think very hard about it, you can be certain they don't have the legal budget to fight that in court.
@@campsitez2355 imagine thinking shallow arguments like that would amount to anything when compared to the actual data?
@@ZeroTheOneWing it's called a reasonable argument because if you are using AI to interfere with a company's revenue stream - talent agencies managing streamers you will have a lot to answer for if you claim "they're cheating" and therefore should be permanently banned on twitch forever. What part of that is "shallow" to the extent of you not comprehending that simple fact?
@@campsitez2355The thing is, you can't sue a cyber security company for providing a service paid for by a game studio. That's like a streamer being banned from Rainbow Six for hacks and they go after Battle Eye even though Ubisoft are the ones that control the bans. Even if it can be proven that it 'hurts a revenue stream', the development company would also be involved in the case as a defendant as they acquired the service and paid for it, their actions directly resulting in the ban. Which, depending on the company, would be way more than enough of a shield to protect the cyber security company in question.
Bruh its going to ban alot of innocent "actually good" players. Its no where near perfect and i can never be because it doesn't take individuals data and learns individually. It compares it over millions of players, and of course there is going to be a guy plays 90% similar to you (yes there are people who play just like you somewhere it's obvious, even if youre the 1%), and youre going to be banned for no reason.
When this becomes mainstream, I will rejoin the FPS community. I have bowed out due to cheaters for the last decade.
It's amazing to me the genre isn't more dead. Like how is it so popular when cheating is this ubiquitous?? I'm in the same spot, haven't really played any fps seriously in several years. Because why bother?
@@rollerr it only bothers me if its obvious.. otherwise i just think they're better than me.. it doesnt really change anything, after all its just game. does anyone REALLY actually care? i don't
@@sergsergesrgergseg They aren't better than you, though. And they're doing things no legit player would actually do. You're effectively not actually playing the game as it's designed if you're playing vs a cheater. That's the problem.
@@rollerr for me on apex it feels like 1 out of every 10 games, i report, sigh, and move on. Its all you can do :(.
im stubborn. i chat rape them
Cheating online should be a crime. A misdemeanor
I feel like there is more then one way to help, spreading the word of this program and making it known to the gaming community at large could really help it out and speed it along
More game devs should sue cheaters like Bungie did because lawsuits are suprisingly effective at removing cheaters.
Yeah it seems to put a stop to cheat providers quit quick too.
Yeah it has helped so much, that the cheat industry grew :D
@@kenosabi no it doesn't lmao the provider that bungie sued is still up
Yeah... that only works for countries where you can do that. Russia, China, Kazahstan, Iran? Not so easy.
The chest company they sued was an absolute joke (aimjunkies) the real ones people use wouldn't be so dumb to be able to get sued
I've found myself gravitating towards more single player titles in the last few years due to the rampant cheating. This gives me hope.
You'll get false banned and lifetime flagged while people use 90fov aim for years.
You know how this goes.
fuckin same. I used to be an avid tarkov player. I pray for the day i can enjoy cheater free gaming
@@dragonlordcringe will never happen
@@jamesmanner9657 a man can dream
same, i love tarkov but i've just stopped playing after goats vid. lets hope this will fix these games we all love.
still waiting for that famous AI anti-cheat
It's OnlyBrain. Did you even watch the video?
@@coreym162he probably means waiting for the Anticheat to be implemented into popular games n stuff
@@coreym162 Anybrain* did u even watch the vid 🤣
I love how every time something is done, it is the ultimate solution... until you are proven wrong one week after release.
Gonna be bypassed for sure, same thing happened to Valorant's UNBYPASSABLE Vanguard
its 100% not going to work forever
atleast it will make cheaters have to buy new cheats every couple of updates
@@billy818 The updates would be hundreds or thousands of times a day.
Found the 1 in 3's
It's a war between AI now! The ones that imitate humans vs the ones that tracks 'human' bots.
It could go forever but at one point cheater would have to play their games with no human input whatsoever. Even them may find it a bit braindead and get bored.
Their is hope.
If this actually catches on and makes its way into more and more games, I'll have no problem going back to Siege. I quit playing years ago because of how annoying the cheating was. Finally, my nipples are at peace.
Oh especially macros are the worst type of cheating.. aimbot, esp, whatnot atleast it's really easy to tell but when it comes to macro is like hello ubi plz do something
Siege went woke man..
Be sure to send hours of gameplay to the website and review other people's footage, that helps the process.
That Bio-Profile was something my friends and I had been throwing around for a while (we're devs and I have extensive experience with ai programming). I'm really happy someone is finally doing it and I hope large companies catch on... Hopefully, these companies and admins aren't corrupt/whitelisting people.
couldn't u just change keyboards and mouse sensitivity and you'll move differently
@@soso-tf1kd No, that's like scaling an image. The pixels may change or distort, but the same general trends will still occur. At a micro-level, ai can detect all of these.
I think that is really difficult because of how players change
There should be absolutely NO way they can whitelist people by say, not having them monitored by an AC. Wait and see how many of the well known streamers will be banned as soon as the ai AC gets there lol
This is scary. This is type of tool which could be used for further monitoring of every person. Honestly if this comes to games I might stop playing them
i come back and watch this every time i get pissed about hackers
Im 35 now, and have been involved in esports most of my life, starting from an early age. I was always involved in Anti-Cheat for various esports leagues throughout my years. It was always such a disheartening duty that had to be done. It has always been such a battle, every time you would get ahead, there would be new cheats. The gaming industries have always supported the cheating companies since the very beginning. I've seen it first hand. I love what I see but I'm always afraid of too good too be true. But if this is real, it will ruffle some feathers. I hope everyone involved in this project stays safe. I hope this comes into the standard of gaming, it makes me emotional just thinking about it.
Zlaner, Huskers, Joehoe, Destroy, Biffle, will all decide to retire at the exact same time. Money printer is over
@uropod have you not considered the fact that cheaters make big gaming companies A LOT of money? people get angry if you mess with their pockets.
@uropod they can get sued and sunk via court fees, nothing is impossible when money is on the line lol
@uropod???
Proud to say I've never cheated and can't wait to see the balance of the games to come in the future.
I often use "cheat codes" in single player. In multiplayer though? I fail to see the fun in that.
@@darktoranaga cheats in single player make perfect sense. It's your game, you have fun however you want. Multiplayer completely defeats the purpose. There's no reward for your advancement in skill
I used to play tarkov with friends who were trash at the game. Like complete garbage. Then one day out of the blue they tell me they're all cheating and have been for years.
For them they got joy in hiding a secret successfully. For me I got to find new friends.
@@GlobalEl1te 😂😂 good luck
@@GlobalEl1te Its for the best. Good luck
I've come close to quitting gaming over cheaters. It's not just running into a blatant hacker, it's the subconscious jaded mindset that comes with it. All of a sudden every questionable moment is potentially a hack in your mind. There is no more, oh he was just better. You get this angry reactive thought that just brings you down mentally that it's probably hacks so why bother anymore, or try to get over it and enjoy what you can. I hope this is possible.
This is exactly why I quit gaming, I was top tier player in my game and at the height when cheating was rampant everyone was so paranoid that every match became an ''upload demo'' request at the end. It's not so much the cheating that gets to you, it's the paranoia that every team you're playing against could be cheating easily and you'd never know if they're good at hiding it. It just became too much to handle and I just rage quit. This was almost 10 years ago. Nowadays there's more cheating than ever, I can't imagine myself being a legit player in the high leagues, it'd ruin me.
@@fador1337 I tried rgl team fortress 2 for the first and last time, guy was playing sniper and I had a feeling he was cheating and our team decided to bring it up. Sure enough, a month or so later he gets banned for cheating. That just destroyed my interest in competitive gaming, why even bother if scumbags like that dude are gonna cheat.
I don't know why you guys get so frustated over it, you CAN'T do anything about it just keep on keeping on and fuck them hoes cheating because they garbage.
If a guy cheats because he's ass, know that you're better than him. End of story
Wait till you find out singeplayer games exist
I bought Call Of Duty 2 at around Christmas time along with an Xbox, I was almost going to send the Xbox back and get my money back but decided not to as I was playing DMZ a lot and found value in this.
I was going into team deathmatch, kill confirmed etc and even though I was on Xbox I was getting auto aimed, so what I do now to piss off the cheaters BIG time is to go in with a riot shield along with the throwing knife and wait for them to reload or just give up shooting then use the throwing knife to kill them.
This absolutely infuriates them as they "GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111ONEONEONEONE" and scream into the microphone.
Ain't my problem they decided to use cheats-so I'm going to use stuff that is available to me in the game to try and mitigate it.
I love this. Ive been playing c.s sence 1.3 and i have never experienced this many cheaters online before.
I tried cheats for 2 days in cs 1.6 too se what it was all about, it sucked.
I hope this gets widespread asap so everyone can have fun on a level playing field again ❤😊
I almost fkn cried this is a dream come true! Thank you everyone who put a thought into this project
This video brought a big smile to my face. I really fucking hope this works and that most game devs are gonna implement it.
Pepepains
Let us pray 🙏 lol
You are naive if you think this changes literally anything. A sensationalized video about “AI”.
People are getting hyped because one side is getting a bigger gun, but this is still just an arms race.
I can throw around generic AI terms, as though they were a panacea too: If you use AI to classify me I'll just use AI to create a different classification, then use AI to classify how you're classifying me and boom, I've defeated AI-defeating AI, for good.
It’s crazy to think it can scan how you play so well to the point it identifies you out of millions of other players
Indeed crazy, crazy enough that I don't believe it would be reliable enough.
Very crazy, it's extremely unlikely to happen, but even then is so easily bypassable...
@@nineonine9082 did you watch the whole video? It's crazy reliable.
@@jakedespppp Yes, but I never saw proof, I am very use to using everything at my disposal to get a certain outcome, so I just don't believe such a system would be fool proof.
It will never happen and these 2 random people in the video do no posses the inhuman skill to create an Ai that is so OTHERWORLDLY perfect and omnipotent and intelligent! If 2 random fucks could create something as futuristic as that, than we would have many many more AIs be present in our lifes. But we cant even create an AI that is intelligent enough to track the road and cars good enough in order to be safe enough to steer the car on its own. But these two random no-names are going to create a literal demi-god of an AI in a couple months? Okay dude.
VALVe needs to add this to TF2, if it automatically detects bioprints that means that all of the bots are done for!
This could literally solve the entire bot problem by terminating them almost immediatly upon notice of the AI, WE NEED THIS
in every game, they should print it in steam vac, crytec doesnt give af about cheaters have 100% proof
This will be the trump card, a vaccine
for real man. tf2 is already free to play so they will not be able to profit from cheaters buying games on new accounts. they should just do it.
I dont understand how people take anything in this video seriously. The whole "playstyle ban" thing is complete bs. Your playstyle changes with your settings, your gear, your skill...
Also, 30% cheaters???? Thats 33 cheaters in a battle royale lobby. Wtf
So where is it? Why do they have zero information on any games they’ve implemented it into or anything
he said they have an NDA
As a Portuguese, I'm proud another fellow Portuguese is behind a project that could revolutionise Anti-Cheats and possibly save online shooters ❤️
Não, não é só um. São vários e com sede em Braga formados na Universidade do Minho. PORTUGAL CARALHO!!
"Portugal single handedly saves FPS's" is a pretty good title to have
@@juliodias7440 E sendo eu nortenho...NORTE CARALHO 😂
@@jesusofbullets Definitely bro 😆
Respect!
I honestly didn't expect a video about cheaters to be so dramatic but thank you for making it. I knew people were cheating but it never occurred to me how many people we're doing it.
It really is sad to see how big of a problem it has become
@@juicypunchie1062 People today will spend the $5 a month to feel accomplished rather than putting in the time and effort to develop skill.
Play Tarkov and you'll quickly realize how bad the cheating issue is.
Blame gaming competitions.
@@JimmieCrackCorn316 These are likely the cheaters which tells me if they got rid of micro transactions they'd get rid of most of the cheaters. I think gaming companies know this but, they want to have their cake and eat it too. They will not get rid of all the cheaters. They need some to make a profit in Asia and Brazil.
As someone who has never cheated and never would this is so huge. I have wanted to get into multiple games such as rust/Tarkov and couldn’t enjoy for lack of knowing if the game was rigged against me.
I played rust and tarkov and I can say by my experience that i havent encountered cheater on rust (maybe in 10 wipes 2 had cheaters in NA servers)
Same for tarkov (from around 100 games maybe 2 had cheaters that killed me, Colombian server)
IDK how it is in other regions but at least if u try to play in colombian servers, there will not be (almost) cheaters
@@MegaHayzen but how do you know this? Or you don't count the cheaters that avoided you? In order to recognize them you at least need to have some cheating tools yourself, ESP at a minimum to see how everyone aims and moves. There is no legitimate way to see if someone might be cheating in Tarkov, unless the devs implemented replays already.
For this you need info that non-cheaters don't have access to.
I'm same as you and I play Apex legends and battlefield. I do very well and I would love to see how I dominate when hackers are gone....those cheating shits
@@MegaHayzen from my experience, if you can't detect them then your not a pro or have not played 5000 hours plus. Trust me you learn to very quickly detect them when you know what angles are legit and u know every corner of every map better than your own house.
I dont understand the mentality of a cheater, like how is it fun for you to use hacks to win? I can't even think of an analogy that's absurd enough. It's like the game with 3 cups and an object under one of the cups, you put the object under and then try to guess which one has the object. How is that fun for people?
been gaming alot and i love tarkov, but the cheaters really made it unplayable for me, i lose my stuff and money is such a hassle. i have over 1300hours on the game and i dont even know how many times ive died of a cheater its too many. i really hope this gets implemented soon into the games.
thank you for the video and bringing hope
I don't think I've ever felt more inspired and positive from a youtube video before, this is INSANE
Itll never happen you know how many billions of clips theyll have to submit?? Maybe trillions
this is actually huge. thanks to everyone working on this bc if it could implemented to games on a massive level we’d have actual skill based gameplay
Yay. Just need to get rid of crossplay and quit pretending controller vs mouse can be balanced.
@@elimgarak1127 or just start allowing console players be able to use M&K.
Cuz tbh every game i can think of that has crossplay allows you to turn it off.
It wont ever happen i hope you realize that
@@Fem_V ye i agree
It isn't entirely skill based even if that happens, because of ping delay & the software you use can also create ms delay.
Plus humans are genetically designed differently, meaning some people are naturally quicker response wise & others cannot compete no matter how hard they try.
The world will never be equal, it wasn't created that way, it was meant to be chaotic.
This video hyped me up like crazy, I have always hated and always will hate any kind of cheating in any video game and hearing this makes happy af. Obviously this is only the start but I believe that the future is bright with this technology.
US law on Data ownership would kill this in an instant cus you can email OperaGX to not store your data
Be sure to send hours of gameplay to the website and review other people's footage, that helps the process.
bro it's been a year. Where they at?
Facts wtf we need this
ai is too costly and also kinda a REALLY bad thing for the enviroment, especially rn companies aren't finding any monetary value in AI. so i think AI is slowly declining
Probably just another fraud company trying to cash in on the AI hype train.
I honestly don't understand why people throw all skepticism and logic out the window the second they hear the term AI and start blindly believing wild claims based on zero evidence.
I really really want this to save us, so we can once again actually enjoy competing fair and square
Careful what you wish for :)
The cheating companies will use AI too so it will still be warfare
@@bloodyacegaming771fps cheaters do not deserve to touch video games
@@bloodyacegaming771 I assume you with your strong libertarian morals are going to stop playing competive fps games from now then?
We had a project in a company I founded back in 2014 doing this for CS:GO.
We parsed thousands of games and trained AI models with really good results. Unfortunately we had to close for other reasons and the project kept unfinished. Good luck 🤞
What happened with the rnd?
Sad
@@Lee___H it is abandoned in one of the hard drives of the company. We had a nice parser for cs:go matches made in Rust, fairly quick compared to the C# outdated one that was at the time.
We had also few services that were downloading all daily FaceIt matches as well as suspect revision and custom matches, by using different cheats we research back in the days. As well as a service that automatically was uploading and triggering a parsing pipeline. Tons of TB in game matches.
With that data the model we trained was able to determine with certainly good accuracy if a player was using a subtle cheat. Blatant ones were very easy.
Last year I was recovering back a non related project and found one of the PDF we made to summarize the project (Pandora was the name btw). It shows all kind of detections (trigger, rcs, etc) we collected more than 650 different values per player, as well as absolute control of trajectory variation per tick, weapon and player.
There was a domain prepared can’t recall amisuspect or cheating or similar, the idea was to have a database of people being analyzed and demos being sent. One curious thing is we did analyze pro player demos as well, results were surprising. One of the good aspects of the system is it could retroactively determine if someone used cheats. As in, if you play at pro level having your match is the same as giving your blood when competing with bikes.
Anyway, in the end it was a side project, kind of a dream. I had the illusion of giving the community a beam of hope. But we financed ourselves with services as contractors in another type of activity and the dream remained in oblivion.
Valve would probably have this in house by now.
@@T0MMYNAT0R they have said that they have more big things to announce regarding Counter-Strike 2, and they've supposedly used deep learning for their anti-cheat since 2018 so it's safe to assume that they do.
Seeing your own biometric gaming data would be a huge help for people who are trying to improve at games. Imagine if you could have an AI gaming coach that could help you figure out what you're doing wrong by comparing your gameplay style to top performers.
Oh I could easily see that, even with a customizable avatar to coach.
im pretty sure AI coaches already exist, dont ask me where tho
@@BobOrKlaus I know but I was referring to one that uses the data footprint that basically was talking about in the video. Any AI that uses data driven performance will do better with a larger dataset.
“Left side weakness”
aim lab new update has smth like that but its paid im p sure
This was such an amazing video, Thank you Homeless. I hope with all of my heart that Ubisoft will implement this for my game Rainbow Six Siege. Currently we are infested with cheaters
I am crying....this is the must beautifull thing i've seen in my last 8 years of gaming, a spark of hope, in one of the darkest times of FPS multiplayer games.
It really is a dead scene in the sense of actually testing your own skills against others.
I'm convinced, there is no good players in FPS anymore with one exception - "pro's" who really aren't pro's but semi pro at the game trying to make money.
I'm 33 years old, been at multiple lans back in the days, when FPS scene was kind of clean before all the huge money prices. I'm convinced a good FPS player would seen this cheating scandal many many years ago, as I did. And what did I do? I quit FPS games for good, so it's only natural for me to think other good player would quit the game or worse, start cheating themselves.
The one's who's playing FPS games and are not cheating will always be noobs. I can't understand how a good player can't tell. I've been in many conversations about cheating years ago with friends, talking about flusha blatantly hacking etc in CS:GO - no one of them took me serious and I was left very confused, how someone so blatant can fool people I respect.
Guess what? were there is big money prizes, you will find cheaters/corruption. SPECIALLY in a world were you can hide behind a computer, and there's really no clear laws on the subject. This is a perfect opportunity to make money if you have no honor.
I'm sad FPS scene is long gone, I loved FPS games.. and still after watching this video, I have no hope for it.
LAN's are not even setup right to make sure of a cheat-free event with HUGE money prizes.
Players can't bring anything to a LAN, not their mice, not their keyboard, not their headset.. nada. And the one's holding the LAN should buy every mice that of the individuals that are in the event - same for keyboard etc.
No LAN event is doing it. I'm 100% they are aware of the cheating issue, and they're all making $$$$ out of it.
The whole thing is so stupid, but what I'm most disappointed of is how many people who think there isn't a massive cheating scandal inside of not only public FPS games, but the "pro" scene. Take a look at warzone twitch page, find the most popular streamer.. ANY of them. Blatant cheater.
I mean u have to be a inbred not to see it.
I'm amazed how I managed to get to level 10 in faceit CSGO without any cheat.
I guess I'm just a god.
yeah man, this sh*t blew my mind. I guarantee this will be the future. People will expect something like Anybrain to be protecting their game.
Well uh the sad part is that in the same way this cheat detection is improving, the cheats themselves are also improving. This is a war that will never end
@@zoneshift sure, but if you have to write an AI to make you appear as human, it'll basically just be some aim assist at that point. Any kind of repeating patterns would be detected.
_IF_ the cheaters doesn't just make AI ant-anti-cheat software.
(Sorry, not trying to kill your spark of hope. I have a spark of hope too)
Can happily say in my 20 years of gaming I have never cheated. Excited for the future
Does X-ray on Minecraft count 😭
@@awakenedgraphics4023 You filthy cheater, i cant wait for minecraft bio-data so everyone who uses xray gets banned!1!1!
I've been waiting a long time for something to bring the FPS back to FPS.
Bring the "person" back to "first person shooter", perhaps?
@@i-san885he tried
@@user-ri8ps6cl4w he really didn’t 😅
Lol that's the joke, we all know the acronym
1 year later and still nothing...
Must be an idiot if you thought it took a year without much funding lmao. It's been 2+years.
I know :(
I really really REALLY want to be hopeful for this project. I’m concerned about it’s potential effectiveness, but I’m grateful that something is being done to combat cheaters.
I never knew that there were that many people cheating in games. An eye opener for sure.
When you even think that someone is just good at the game they might just be cheaters, learned that from personal experience.
@@WraithLeaf nah i believe everyone better than me are cheaters LMAO
EFT is 80% out of all games
@@jackbig3594 Makes you feel worse actually. What happend to just playing the game...
Absolutely can't wait to see how all of this evolves! Good luck, we're counting on everyone involved!
Don't go to this company begging for a lawsuit after a trojan gets installed lmao
The cheats will continue to evolve right along side any "fixes". It will never stop.
Friggin hilarious sign-off: way to tie it back. LOL! Thanks for the optimism. Can’t wait!
Stay strong boys we may have to band together to force our favorite games to adopt the future or not get our $ anymore
Homeless, this is the breakthrough video you needed to take your channel to the next level. ❤ been watching since the seige days im so glad to see you still going
Man your a legend, I literally cannot wait for this. How refreshing to lose and feel bested rather then cheesed or cheated
Bro imagine you pay 70€ and getting false banned and you can never play the game again
This is honestly the best news I've heard in a long time. They're using similar tools in universities already for chat GPT as well.
The issue is that those tools can be easily fooled. You can literally prompt ChatGPT with a single copy-paste phrase that will spoof any detector that exists.
I think the anticheat is more promising, especially due to the biometric profile
the problems with AI like that is that hard-coded exceptions will exist for top streamers because of the fact that their agency will sue you if you get them banned and prevent them from making money. This is how this cheating problem basically manifested itself. Zlaner cheats, everyone knows it. Biffle cheats, everyone knows it, Wagnificent cheated and still cheats, everyone knows it. What's the one major factor linking them all? Twitch would lose money if they banned any of them. Activision would lose "social exposure" if they banned them. Activision doesn't care so long as people are just talking about the game which is likely why they [the company that created any game with 3rd party cheats] paid that one guy to do a Tarkov video... it isn't about creating a good game at that point, it's only about making money.
Detecting Chat-GPT responses is damn near impossible, because the model was trained on normal human language, and therefore produces normal human language. It's not producing something abnormal or impossible for a human to make, it's just writing English sentences.
@@crewd00d you can actually still tell using a method called fingerprinting. ChatGPT is just predicting the next token in a list of possible tokens. ChatGPT can then tweak the probabilities of the tokens by a small percentage for probable words, and a large percentage for improbable words. This then means that there will be a very faint fingerprint left behind which can tell you if it was generated using it. OpenAI probably has given universities access to the tool to detect it.
@@meatisomalley 1984
You're an inspiration Mr. Homeless
Huh… well hey Wayton!
This should be a priority for every FPS. Hackers are the biggest reasons casual players don't play a lot, nobody has fun dying within one minute of spawning because of insanely impossible shots or immediately being seen by wallhackers (they literally start running to you from quite a distance, planning the perfect way of getting to you and you don't even see them shooting you, they already know which side you have teammates on, so they can avoid everything that would've otherwise stopped them.)
Young men and women became dishonorable. They cheat and bully each other, and not putting real effort in their work.
Can't wait for this to get applied to streamer vods and people get exposed
shroud out of a job soon
@@mrotss I dont think he cheats but anything is possible if you have a good coder in your back pocket and he could certainly afford it.
@@rbrowning008 hahaha bro he is using
This made me so happy, I almost had tears in my eyes. Man I am playing fps for 15 years now, and there were so many shady and obvious situations that made me or my friends mad and just quit the game. It took so much fun from all of us. This is a chance to get it back! I am supporting this.
Cheating companies will utilise AI too so it’s not going to change much imo
I've been playing video games and fps for almost 30 years, I've never felt the need to use cheats. but I must say that it is frustrating to know that this phenomenon is so widespread.
Literally my thoughts, I always knew there were cheaters, I mean in the past they were more obvious, but now this... makes me love single-player games more lol
Snake Oil? Year later and no good news about it and I feel like cheaters online multiply by 1000.
The more time pass, the more i think it's gonna be a war of who have the best AI
Ya it’ll be scary when that turns to which government has the best ai or military
that is the same thing that is happening before AI.
Indeed. Before long the cheaters will starts using an AI to scramble your controller input in order to disguise your cheats. 😕
And the system sounds scary as fuck. Just from playing games it can give you a unique ID! That means it can easily be implemented to do the same with comments or general browsing habits.
There will be zero anonymity online. And with the "it will keep you banned thing"... good luck being one of the few legit players who accidentally gets flagged and will be banned from all games forever.
This shit is exactly why Dune in its story had the "Butlerian Jihad", AIs were fully controlling the population.
@@Syntax_Error_404 This is actually nearly impossible to do. You would have to pwn the computer of all the players in the lobby or somehow intercept, decrypt and alter the traffic going out from those machines. So I wouldnt worry to much about that. Also there is no need to use AI to do that.
I really hope something is done about these cheats and that these AI anti-cheats actually work. I'm over here imagining a doomsday scenario where people would have to physically record their hands playing a game in order to verify legitimacy.
Fortunately by having it constantly learn, it'll learn as much from successful bans than it will out of mistakes. Mistakes can still be reversed by human intervention and the AI will learn to look out for that scenario. Hopefully with it built into games you won't have to worry about any checks, because their system will have all it needs. And if it goes majorly wrong and a company doesn't reverse it, then it's pay out time.
@@WhittaII Ah yes, as TH-cam has proven, human intervention is very common and will definitely aid in reducing false positives. Especially in the case of ESP in more recent shooters where footsteps are so loud you can track people perfectly from a mile away with any $50+ headset, something I’m sure the AI will be able to tell apart from wallhackers.
@@onemorescout And what prevents AI cheats from attempting to counter recognition by modifying the "gamer finger print" or intentionally appearing more human? I just don't see why a computer cant attempt this - its literally the point of AI, to do things we cant; including to appear human when its not.
@@onemorescout you realize that audio you’re hearing is just data the ai is probably already going to know if it’s actually integrated into games like they’re mentioning.
I imagine a fingerprint sensor on a mouse and all the data recorded by the mouse has to match your input in game. Problem solved.
So glad that single player gaming still has a long and bright future ahead
Tell me you did not watch the video, without telling me you did not watch the video.
@@b44rt tell me you don't understand how that comment relates to the subject of the video without telling me
Yup, today marks the day where I stopped playing FPS games. I can't be bothered anymore. It doesn't help that so many ignorants deny blatant cheaters.
There are so SOOO much more cheaters than people think. The wiggle that killed Tarkov? Well, I knew the cheating was bad before, no one believed me. I wish I could have seen the dumb looks on the people I used to play with when they saw it. I'm going full on back to singleplayer games.
Literally, can't play ONE evening without thinking once "Man, I will get killed by cheaters anyway all the time."
Long live singleplayer games!
The unique biometric profile thing is quite scary, as it can inevitably be linked to player accounts containing personal information. I’m sure then there will be people wanting to look at the gameplay of individuals to surmise behavioral characteristics. Like looking back at the GTA play of a tool schooter to determine if there are “red flags” that could then be used to identify others playing the game who show similar patterns.
The privacy concerns aside, this sounds like a great solution.
the most that might be is some experts really trying to find out if playing a game a certain way might actually help people understand the psyche of a person, buuuuuuutt similar tests have already been done so nah.
and other than that, there's nothing to be worried about???
@@jeffboy4231 I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss it. They’re already selling, for profit, 23+me dna shit for research of all types. While I agree that the data they might garner from “play style analysis” is meaningless, it doesn’t mean they *wont try* to use it. Doesn’t mean they won’t build profiles from it. Doesn’t mean they won’t sell those profiles for profit to third parties who want it. Character background checks are a thing. Imagine an elementary school teacher applying for a job, and having their “play style and interest profile” available to the background check company. Gamers know that said teacher could be an insanely demented and vicious GTA player without that meaning anything for their real life kindness and skill with children…but non gamers might see that and assume they’re not a good teacher and they might be insane.
My concern isn’t really with how the justice system would use that data, for the most part video games have repeatedly won in court and precedent has been set for keeping what/how someone plays out of legal judgements…but the court of public opinion is a different story. Every tool schooter that plays video games always ends up on the news with some shit like “played violent video games” coming out of the talking heads mouths. Imagine some guy decides to drive his car through a crowd of people, and the prosecutors find out through his biometric gaming profile that in the days leading up to the event, he had repeatedly “practiced” the event in GTA. You think they wouldn’t use that as proof of premeditation? Of course they would!
I firmly believe that games don’t reflect a persons true nature, but they can sometimes, and I fear that building biometric profiles of how gamers play can absolutely be twisted and abused to wrongly judge someone’s character in the real world. The media has a field day every time a new GTA comes out, they had a panic attack over the COD airport scene, some countries ban red blood in games…if the data is out there, it will unjustly be used to hurt gamers. Maybe not in court, but definitely outside of it. How long till kids parents can buy their kids profile, and suddenly the angsty teen who unwinds with games, and maybe kills civilians in Skyrim a little too often, is getting their systems taken away by parents who think their kid is being primed to violence because they don’t understand gaming.
It’s a scary premise, and requires the utmost caution by the devs to ensure data is protected, anonymized, and not sold or turned over to law enforcement under any pretext. The road to hell is paved with good intentions…
I’d be fucked when it comes to gta. The only viable medium of travel seems to me to be a semi on sidewalks.
@@jeffboy4231 I don’t disagree that it wouldn’t be useful data in reality, cause we know that plenty of people are sadists in games and wouldn’t even kill a bug in the real world…but that won’t stop people from trying. They tried with rock music during the satanic panic, they try every time a new GTA drops, etc. The fear/concerns I have are about the way people might try to disingenuously or inaccurately use said data. Data often gets sold freely to whomever wants it, and there’s literally nothing stopping some fringe anti-violent games advocacy group or company providing “child surveillance for parents” from buying said data and doing what they want with it - even if what they do is bullshit. Even if the profiles they make on players are total nonsense based on delusional “analysis”, do you really want to have a profile created on yourself that could be used against you by some bad actor or government?
I'm all for maximizing privacy, preventing data farming, blah blah blah. But the key point here is consent. It being voluntary, for a very good reason, that you are personally benefitting from, is a far cry from some company selling my data to a 3rd party to do with as they please.. As an avid gamer, over the past year cheating has skyrocketed. Its frustrating BS and Im all for any and every measure we can possibly take. I think it should be linked to your verified IRL identity and thus if you ever incur bans, they are tied to that identity and inescapable. Bans should be severe. I.E. 1 year minimum, then 3, then 5. Im also not opposed to any level of monitoring from an anticheat. Kernel, live camera over my keyboard, whatever. Just get these losers out of my matches. There will likely never be a 100% cheating solution but we have multiple methods and we should utilize them. Im surprised there isnt more uproar about it from official entities in the gaming industry. Cheating costs them millions annually in the form of lost revenue from players who quit games over cheaters.
No more cheating 🎉
But this fingerprint thing is kinda scary 😅. Imagine being tracked just by the way you play video games across platforms and time. If the servers save your inputs, you could be identified even years later
Consequences for constantly cheating
Literally only a negative thing if you do bad things…. Just like being scared of the police or authority in general (at least in civilized areas). Just be a good person and you have nothing to worry about
yeah cheating is literal steroids for videogames, you should have itchy nipples if you hack
its mannerism based, if you always hide in this one area of miss by margin x, you can change that by training in private, thus generating a new identity
@@quintonfleming8055 Everyone says that until the governments ethics change against their favor. Think they'd be willing to give back that power then?
Ive quit fps games 3-4 years ago due rampant cheat waves. It didnt use to be this bad but this video is giving me hope and if it happens ill return like glory days.
The "behavior fingerprint" is kinda scary imagine that you are banned because of a bug or a error by the developers like many other times that someone is unfairly ban.
I remember that in diablo 3 the top player is banned bacause everyone is report the poor guy's account just because he is the top one, now imagine if he is banned for the same reason by the new "behavior fingerprint".
i think that the ban wouldn't happen if the IA doesn't detect cheats, if this is that good as they talking about it, the report sistem wont be needed anymore
Will it really be able to fingerprint millions of unique behavioral patterns? I don't know. Modern AIs can utilize ludicrous amounts of data points, explain and predict minute details that humans can't. The finer grain you go, it could be possible. I hope it will also have the leeway for when you have a bad day or change your hardware or keybinds, which is bound to change your patterns, the breadth of habits go wider than a 2 hour evaluation window.
Also imagine changes happen in the game that promote behavior that was originally super suspicious, such as a character with temporary wall hacks. They'd have to kill the behavior profiles any time they do something like that lest they delete the entire playerbase. After all AI only knows as much as it's been trained, it won't intuitively understand the new behavior
There's nothing stopping you from copying the best player pattern behaviour, the cheats will always won unfortunately.
Lol. Bro, they already collect your typing patterns and searching patterns via telemetry. The days of opsec are over unless you become a recluse or complete hermit.
I found it funny how I looked at everyone, and you made people guess who was the cheater. Most people who are cheating usually haven't played the game before or barley play it enough to know what benefits them. Husky was so obvious because of a few key details (This is my first time watching this video, and when you asked I had to look back into those clips three times.)
1. He never crouch once which helps for longer ranges giving the recoil control.
2. His corsair never left the neck/head area in most of his clips meaning these cheats were trying their best to move into the head.
3. It was like he knew where people were going to be before getting out of cover with him trying to hide it. (Which this one is majorly a guess to be honest).
When it comes to gaming if someone is new/not using the game mechanics that does help the people who know the game you can tell if they are cheating or not by basically looking at certain patterns.
(During this time for the comment too) Look at a game like XDefiant a Ubisoft CoD game but with totally different mechanics, movement/gunplay similar to MW2, and a good overall feel you do get teammates at times that don't know how the game works but they are good at aiming but when your opposing team/teammates are doing amazing but doesn't know what half of their abilities or mechanics do yet they went something like 60 - 3 you tend to test a few things. When you do you take notice in many factors that add up to them either cheating or not with a good example of mine being staying behind spawn doors since you can shoot out of them but the opposing team can't shoot into them. I've ran into three cheaters during that time trying to shoot back, and pre firing out of cover before they even notice me nor has seen me making it obvious they had wall hacks but also in further ranges was hitting my head without couching giving them better recoil control including steerability obviously being aim bot.
Take this information as you will.
Awesome video.
I think that very soon a lot of very popular content creators are going to be shown as frauds. I'm really excited for it, cheaters are scum.
Straight up 90 percent of them, only people watching them are children and goons.
Or suddenly become very bad at the game for no reason 😂
Finally I can see if Nadia is cheater or innocent. I'm excited for the results
@@wibiyoutube6173 start saving footage now
Yup. Twitch is gunna lose a lot of money
A couple years ago i would practice my aim every day for an hour straight. i was grinding super hard to be the best i could possibly be, and i was definitely in the top few % of players. but with skill-based matchmaking implementations into every FPS, the better you are, the more cheaters you face. It inevitably caused me to stop playing FPS competitively altogether as i was going insane trying to differentiate between a good player and a cheater every time i was killed. it made it so anti-fun that it completely ruined the experience for me.
Now im currently playing a game that has been completely ruined by bots(WoW Classic), and it hurts just as bad. it is refreshing to finally see some good news. My only hope is that big game companies implement something like this in the coming years and save the online gaming industry.
My thoughts go to the idea that it could be a stepping stone for popularizing blocking every account that you make in order to stop someone from having any online presence.
They already do that, called IP banning and hardware banning. But you can use a vpn or a new pc and you're back at it.