I dunno you see so many people calling themselves "influencers" trying to out do each other acting like fools for attention This episode is 10 times more relevant in the viral age
>Released in 2016 Bruh, most of the issues with the internet were already in full swing by that point, this didn't warn us about anything that wasn't already going on.
I do appreciate the message. Toxicity seems so normalised in some communities that nobody registers it as negative and even start attacking anybody who criticises it. We've really gotta get more initiatives to get users to see others on the internet as people with their own lives and feelings.
@@Adventist1997 I'm not so sure. It seems like there's been a resurgence lately of more positive and supportive content, whether it's helpfully adding to someone else's comment or simply asking for further clarification if something could be taken the wrong way.
My favorite piece of media regarding Internet safety is still the fearmongering PSA where a high school girl pins up a selfie of herself to the school lobby's bulletin board, and it's not long until EVERYONE is ripping down copies for themselves, even the _janitor,_ who does so after checking that the coast is clear. Creeeeepy! I attribute a good 10% of the reasons why I do not, have not, and *_will not_* make a Facebook account. The last time I googled myself, I had to get hyper specific about a picture I _know_ exists to actually find anything with my name on it that tied back to me and not someone else, and it was still on like the thirteenth page of Google results.
I kinda like the reveal with Patrick, showing how sometimes people don't *mean* to come off the way they do, even though others most definitely *do* "I'm gonna express the worst side of myself! :D "
Yeah, the episode is very fair in how it depicts things spiraling out of control. Sometimes it's done out of malicious intent, other times it's totally by mistake, as was the case with Patrick.
@@moviemadness2536 Agreed, and either way once it stops, there's no stopping it Once one person does it, others are encouraged to do the same, feeling less afraid about doing so, and the more people do it, the more other people are encouraged to join in, especially since being mean or controversial gets you a lot more attention than being nice and supportive
@@moviemadness2536 Yep, started out with people reacting to a negative post, from laughing at the insult to getting in a few jabs themselves, and things only escalated from there
Well, there aren’t any predictions here, this came out in 2016, which yeah, a lot of people have mentioned it, but the date is important to easily understand that the title doesn’t make sense. I’m not sure if it’s click bait or just a lack of understanding what the implications were with the title. All it really was an allegory, as you said yourself. Its not even one of the most relevant episode, it’s just accurate to how the internet is today as it was in 2003 when social sites were starting to come up and show how people would turn to behave on the internet, to 2009 when a lot of the sites had a pretty much established the behaviors on these sites to 2013 when TH-cam culture boomed and shown a completely different side to internet culture. The episode is just an incredibly obvious surface take on internet culture. I think the creators saw the influx of behavior in the internet due to the 2016 elections and how it was heavily it was memed, talked about, and just a general culture wave, and wanted to make an episode on it. I’m not trying to be negative, but I think the videos presentation needs to be worked on and if you didn’t mean how you said it, then it should be better clarified in the future.
I have to admit, one of the reasons why i really enjoy your channel is because i believe you have very respectful and very different opinions compared to other cartoon/media TH-camrs. And i actually agree with a lot of things you say, but of course, we shouldn't put anyone, especially people we don't even know in person, in pedestals. After all, we're all human beings with flaws. And that's unfortunately something very common. If someone is a very popular TH-camr for example, people will normally take all the opinions they have as facts, even when it comes to more relative and less objective stuff like cartoons or movies.
Exactly, and this episode shows what ends up happening when people blindly follow the opinions and advice of people they don't know. More often than not, it leads to disaster. And thank you very much for the compliments.
@@moviemadness2536 "It didn't become widely available for everyone to have easy access to until 2012" What? That's not even remotely true..... I am guessing that's when you got old enough to widely USE the internet. Maybe don't get your 'facts' about the world around you only from the lense of your childhood.
@@JamesR624 chill dude, not need to be so fired up. From what I can tell, the internet got more advanced, and yes affordable/accessible in 2012. It's also when the toxicity started to become much more rampant, and children were starting to get access to the internet as well. The longer it's been up, the worse it's gotten, and the younger people are exposed to it. This slope became much more pronounced in the early 2010s. I presume that is what was meant. I mean in the 90s you had to dial in to the internet, have specific wires to connect, and pay a lot for the limited data you got. Eventually it became wireless, and was included with cable, which was also quite expensive and thus not necessarily a common thing for all households. Then nearly every phone had a plan where you got 1 gb of data, labeled lte, for free each month and any amount overboard meant you paid extra. Eventually that lte became 4g, then 5g. In the time it took to switch lte to 4g, the schools became having wireless internet, aka wifi, and thus students could access internet on their personal devices starting in the early 2010s. I may not have been around in the 1990s, but my parents sure were, and they love to tell me all about it and how difficult it supposedly was. I doubt something difficult for adults in 1990 to afford and use, would be considered widely accessible just yet. Widely accessible does in fact mean, easy to use and affordable for a large range of demographics of people. I'd say the internet is the biggest connection point we have as a society at this point, almost certainly being a daily necessity, and it only recently got quite this bad in the years ranging from 2017 ish to now. With the more usage came the heavier censorship of many creators, a filtering of free speech, and much larger acknowledgement that children do infact lie about their ages to access websites they shouldn't, or give away personal info to websites that they shouldnt. I can go on and on, but you probably wouldn't change your mind, because I'm sure even in the 90s there were a few trolls and kids with internet dial up.
@@JamesR624 I didn't get my "facts" from childhood. Cellphones became able to both have extreme internet capabilities and cheap enough for the average person to afford in 2012. And that's when EVERYBODY started using social media. Look it up if you don't believe me.
@@moviemadness2536 The internet was widely accessible before smartphones. There were plenty of people using the internet in the early 2000s via desktops and laptops.
The internet gives a window into how people truly think and shines a light onto the ills of the real world through artifical light. The internet can influence people like the Bulletin Board did, but I do think the real issue is a matter of sheer possiblity rather than the internet encoraging it. The internet is not a living thing, it has no objective, motive, ambit, or purpose besides what people imprint on it. As proven from it first starting off as an innocent activity in the episode, but being lost in translation, and corrupted over time. People making money from it is also not a problem with enabling it, cause obviously personal freedom allows toxicity to spread. The internet would not be able to exist without money involved, so its kinda moot to say that this would be why problems are caused. I do think greed is an issue, but making money indirectly off of toxicity does not somehow intensitify a problem that already existed, with or without the money. In most cases, we all just trade one toxicity for another. So moderation is really just "hiding" it, like putting a bandaid on a bigger problem. Human nature is complex, but often times we simplify it to fit into our narrow viewpoint of it. We would like to believe everyone is capable of good will. The more limited exposure you have, the more there exists a favourable perception of people. But the longer you are around people, you realize that no one is entirely good or evil.
It's as Spongebob says: They were the problem, not the board. And just as you said, it's the people on the internet and how they use it, rather than the internet itself, that causes bad things to happen.
The internet became widely available and easy for anyone to use in 2012. The episode came out in 2016. So not only did it come out _relatively_ soon after social media started to come out, but also predicted what trajectory it would take. If nothing else, this episode is very relevant to modern internet culture and the dangers of it.
As a community manager, I can confirm from first hand experience that no policies leads to the worst people pushing out everyone Its the nazi bar or glass house theory. You need balance for a pleasant environment
I agree with almost everything you said, especially the main point about the bulletin board being an allegory for the Internet. I think of this episode as more of a real portrayal or reflection of what the Internet has already become, not as much of a warning as to what it could become. I was a teenager when I first saw this episode and was already aware that the Internet could be a harmful place.
The episode came out at the right time, and if more people had listened to it, the internet wouldn't be in the place it is today. How about we put it that way?
Sorry but this episode just seems pretty average. I think it's important to remember that this episode came out in 2016, so the internet was already over a decade old so calling this episode ahead of its time is an extreme exaggeration or just a downright wrong statement. Hell, cyberbullying was already considered a considerable problem around the time the very first episode of SpongeBob came out. The whole sheep mindset thing has also existed since forever so overall what this episode does is nothing that special and it doesn't do it all that well based on what you have said about the episode. I'm not saying that these issues aren't still relevant, but this episode doesn't seem to tackle the relevancy in any deep way so the way I see it this episode feels like it may even be a dated example of this concept considering how the solution is ultimately "burn it all down" which works for the bulletin bord literally but it terms of what its meant to represent it just straight up doesn't.
I try to share positivity online when I can, being nice doesn’t cost much if anything, but I’ll also put my foot down if I find something problematic, offensive, toxic, etc. Not sure I’ve seen this episode but from the way you described it, the message indeed seems pretty relevant in this day and age. Say no to toxicity, embrace positivity. Be supportive and constructive. Your positivity might rub off on others and vice-versa. Better than spreading hatred.
SpongeBob's Bad Habit is another relevant episode and it comes from Season 12. The episode focuses on SpongeBob having a habit of biting his nails, which I'm sure a ton of us have done number of times. It's not one of my favorite post-sequel episodes.
Another contender for most relevant episode: Krab Borg, because of one dialogue exchange "Say, you're not a robot, are you?" "No, I'm not." "Well keep your eyes peeled. They're everywhere."
Thanks. That's the nice thing about it, really. It doesn't smash you over the head with it's allegory, and can be enjoyed even if you don't get it's message. It really is a great episode from more modern Spongebob.
The problem these days is everyone takes every little thing personally. The Internet at large always had trolls but back then we knew not to feed them.
This episode isn't even that old though. 2016?? Okay, yeah, it has been 7 years, sure, but internet culture has been an issue years before this episode ever aired.
Really had me going there with the ripped pants at the beginning, but thinking about it I couldn't think of any classic episode that fit the beginning, and only one came to mind... "Ha I knew it!" - my irl reaction to seeing it
I used to join random minecraft servers and just cause absolute chaos for as long as possible before getting caught. I would destroy builds or cause massive amounts of lag by spawning thousands of animals in a hidden location. After a while i would only do this to people who were douchy. Ive seen people tear each other apart trying to figure out who did it or they just accuse each other. It doesnt take much for people to turn on each other
Remember: our closest relatives are highly aggressive apes that once tore a man to shreds because they didn’t get a cake. It’s no surprise that we act aggressively whenever we can: we’re related to those monsters, but society pretends of us to act akin to ants!
When I first saw the episode, I agreed with your interpretation, that a few jerks can ruin the fun for everyone else. But after watching your review, I now have a new interpretation: Dissent is bad, anonymity is evil, and everyone on the Internet has skin as thin as, well, paper. In fact, by using a nickname, PStar7 was actually less anonymous than anyone who'd used the board up to that point. And maybe people have a good reason to be anonymous, like muckrakers and whistleblowers. Sometimes, the truth can’t be told if everyone’s forced to use their real names. And when you said “Be careful on the Internet. Be thankful that you have such a wonderful invention at your fingertips.” it sounded to me like a threat, especially because of how the episode ended: Mr. Krabs taking down the boards and removing the notes. I see it as an allegory for Internet censorship, and how it’s supposedly a good thing. All it’ll end up doing is give Plankton the idea to put up his own board in the Chum Bucket, where people who feel like they’ve been silenced at the Krusty Krab can go to say what they really think. And yes, that’s an allegory for creators of alternative social media sites. Now that would be a great sequel episode.
I'm not saying that anonymity is ALWAYS a bad thing, not by any means. Just that sometimes people take advantage of it to do or say bad things. And just to be clear, I did NOT mean that as a threat, I meant exactly what I said. And I have to admit, that does sound like a good sequel episode, but something tells me that things wouldn't quite work out for Plankton.
I've seen this happen to Jirard The Completionist. He made one mistake in his career, and everyone in the comments of his videos went hostile against him. I really liked his videos, and I wish this never happened to him.
Man, it's like this video knew I was at work ... minding my own business.. on my lunch break... Then I turn around and BOOM! ... I'm literally sitting in front of a bulletin board.
The real issue with the internet isn't bullying. The issue is people from other countries getting offended, and having different laws, and the legal mess it creates in communications. Bullying and harassment aren't even close to the real problem with the internet. That's an issue, but the true danger lies in the legal issues it starts, such as possibly breaking a law in England while in the United States. They don't have free speech in any of the Western Countries anymore, and you possibly might break laws in those other countries saying what you say. The Internet needs to be consolidated into a research tool. Like a giant Wikipedia, but with all the knowledge of mankind. Basically Google Books. But it's a wonderful resource for learning. You can teach yourself anything. I'm learning Geometry and Algebra and a host of other things. And can now do simple systems of equations. But free speech is America's greatest virtue. And the internet threatens it. Which is why I'm in favor of getting rid of it. Except all the research based tools on it. Like you can learn anything you want on the internet. That's the greatest benefit of the Internet, is that you can learn, and it just needs to be curated better, so you get better information on it. The internet is beautiful, but it's broken.
You did the twitter meme of inventing a problem to get upset about. There are a million issues that the internet causes. But as far as I know, the ability of someone to be subject to the jurisdiction of the country they reside in hasn’t been threatened by the existence of the internet. No American has ever posted something that would’ve broken a law in the UK and had the British police mistakenly show up to their door and take them into custody.
@@JohnDoe-kn7ex Yes, but it might happen in the future. In fact, Britain was considering it. That's what you don't understand, is the workings are already being implemented to have it be that way. You could be extradited to another country, for what you say. It's getting dangerous.
spongebob season 9b up until big birthday blowout (including the eps that are before it but aired later like shell games) was the return of peakbob, and i'm thankful it brought us gems such as this episode
@ last half of s12 was mid, sure there was stuff like dream hoppers but there was also stuff like who r zoo which was rather loud and unfunny throughout and didn't even feel like spongebob
4:58 Assuming for the sake of argument, this is based on a real screenshot and not entirely fabricated out of whole cloth; I have trouble believing it was not intentional. It's far more likely they were just being a Schrödinger's asshole, otherwise they would have at _least_ said "You _should_ die," if they meant to give the advice that this run was ruined, and the level needed to be ruined. Just some mildly pedantic semantics, that don't even matter since this is a strawman example anyhow.
That wasn't a screenshot, I put that together myself. And you're probably right, I should've had it say "You should die" instead of "I hope you die". But I hope I still got the point across either way.
I agree with the morality behind the writing of the episode. But what happens when someone like me who, by the way opts not to shy away from harsh opinions and still chooses to attach a real name to my screen name, and does not care if someone like myself doesn't care if they are hated for it? And that's another side of the coin too because you'll have influencers today say who they are and say some of the shittiest things and express the worst of humanity's beliefs and people will still follow them. It's not just the anonymous people you gotta worry about and frankly, some people who don't fear death and are willing to be blunt, real, and even vulgar to a point along with the appropriate context, will have a life after death.
Yeah, anonymity does have it's advantages, but some will still do it without it. Even in the episode, certain characters don't even try to hide the fact that they're the ones posting insults, and that's shown to almost be a bigger problem than the ones who stay anonymous. All around, it's not good.
Im really enjoying your channel! You bring new perspective to the SP Analysis community that is sorely needed. I'm also dead ass fascinated by your accent. I've heard it once before, from a Podcaster who is probably twice your age; specializing in baseball and popes! 😅 I've heard it referred to as a "Great Lakes" accent. My brief attempt at light online stalking was unsuccessful. Can you help me understand your accent better without revealing inappropriate location details?
Thank you. I'm really happy that you've been enjoying my videos. As for my accent, I get asked about it a lot, but I really don't know what to say. I'm not from around the "Great Lakes" though, if that means anything.
I feel like something like this happened to me a few months ago it was on tumblr about avatar the lastair bender content everyone including prying pandora the one who’s tumblr we were on was criticizing a post over a character I defended the character and texted my own opinion but prying pandora said that if I still wanted to make claims that burden on me then we started to argue over the next few days then finally she said “I can do my own interpretation or head-canon but no one has to agree with me “ I then insulted her and call her a hypocrite after a few days I felt so ashamed and then apologize to her thankfully she said it was ok but I still felt guilty. I never had much thought about this episode but looking back at it especially on your analysis I realized this how these thing happened people don’t agree with people opinions so they argue and say horrible stuff at something so small and simple it should bring people together and maybe it does but it doesn’t have to be like this not everybody going to apologize for saying mean things and that why your interpretation hit so hard I just feel so ashamed.
8:54 - I don’t get that meme. It directly contradicts what you’re trying to say in the video. I mean, the sky really isn’t blue; it just looks that way.
The point is that he believes the sky only looks blue because it reflects off the water since his favorite influencer said so. And obviously the sky is actually looks blue because of chemicals in the atmosphere. The point is how people will just blindly believe things they see on the internet no matter how much common sense or evidence there is that proves it wrong.
I feel like the episode does not portray cyber-bullying accurately. It's one person, who's just stupid and insults everyone without wanting to, whereas everyone else seems to be civil, at least according to the way you describe it (I haven't seen it myself). It sounds like if you exclude Patrick then everyone else will be talking just fine coz we only have evidence of only one bad apple. You're giving it too much credit imo.
honestly im actually surprised pstar7 was patrick and not bubble bass i mean i know dude can be an asshole but considering bubble bass is in this episode you were at least expected to assume hes worser than patrick
Patrick was being a jerk by accident, which was part of the point. If Bubble Bass was behind it, it would've most definitely been intentional on his part.
God how do we still have this 4chan talking point of "anonymity makes you post bad" when it's been proven so many times in both studies and shown so many times real life experience that to be the literal exact opposite of what happens on the internet.
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Fun fact: Stephen Hillenburg worked on this episode, one of the reasons its such a modern classic.
9/10 really good episode! With a good message
Nailed it.
@@moviemadness2536 True, One of the best episodes of Modern SpongeBob.
The title of this video should be " The SpongeBob episode about modern-day Twitter"
You can say whatever you want on X but its a good and bad thing
Applies to the whole Internet
Reddit is more accurate
But all of them social media apps are bad wastelands now
@@darkeye457This.
I dunno you see so many people calling themselves "influencers" trying to out do each other acting like fools for attention
This episode is 10 times more relevant in the viral age
>Released in 2016
Bruh, most of the issues with the internet were already in full swing by that point, this didn't warn us about anything that wasn't already going on.
That's why the next thing after a failed warning is a commentary.😉
@@tzeccentric7848 they do it for profit.
IMO social media is the greatest reality tv show of all time. If reality tv shows are meant to fool people, then social media did a better job at it.
I guess that's one way to look at it.
Good point
The Truman Show takes the cake to proof the future
@@MisterYeko what does that mean???
I do appreciate the message.
Toxicity seems so normalised in some communities that nobody registers it as negative and even start attacking anybody who criticises it. We've really gotta get more initiatives to get users to see others on the internet as people with their own lives and feelings.
I couldn't agree more. And that's only one of the lessons this episode tries to teach us.
It'll get so much worse, before it'll ever get better... 😢
Agreed i love the message its really important
@@Adventist1997 I'm not so sure. It seems like there's been a resurgence lately of more positive and supportive content, whether it's helpfully adding to someone else's comment or simply asking for further clarification if something could be taken the wrong way.
@@Adventist1997it will only get worse if you let it get worse. Do your part to deny them now and always
My favorite piece of media regarding Internet safety is still the fearmongering PSA where a high school girl pins up a selfie of herself to the school lobby's bulletin board, and it's not long until EVERYONE is ripping down copies for themselves, even the _janitor,_ who does so after checking that the coast is clear. Creeeeepy!
I attribute a good 10% of the reasons why I do not, have not, and *_will not_* make a Facebook account. The last time I googled myself, I had to get hyper specific about a picture I _know_ exists to actually find anything with my name on it that tied back to me and not someone else, and it was still on like the thirteenth page of Google results.
I kinda like the reveal with Patrick, showing how sometimes people don't *mean* to come off the way they do, even though others most definitely *do*
"I'm gonna express the worst side of myself! :D "
Yeah, the episode is very fair in how it depicts things spiraling out of control. Sometimes it's done out of malicious intent, other times it's totally by mistake, as was the case with Patrick.
@@moviemadness2536 Agreed, and either way once it stops, there's no stopping it
Once one person does it, others are encouraged to do the same, feeling less afraid about doing so, and the more people do it, the more other people are encouraged to join in, especially since being mean or controversial gets you a lot more attention than being nice and supportive
@@garg4531 And you notice that's exactly what happens in the episode?
@@moviemadness2536 Yep, started out with people reacting to a negative post, from laughing at the insult to getting in a few jabs themselves, and things only escalated from there
@@garg4531 Yep, that's exactly what happened.
Well, there aren’t any predictions here, this came out in 2016, which yeah, a lot of people have mentioned it, but the date is important to easily understand that the title doesn’t make sense. I’m not sure if it’s click bait or just a lack of understanding what the implications were with the title. All it really was an allegory, as you said yourself. Its not even one of the most relevant episode, it’s just accurate to how the internet is today as it was in 2003 when social sites were starting to come up and show how people would turn to behave on the internet, to 2009 when a lot of the sites had a pretty much established the behaviors on these sites to 2013 when TH-cam culture boomed and shown a completely different side to internet culture. The episode is just an incredibly obvious surface take on internet culture. I think the creators saw the influx of behavior in the internet due to the 2016 elections and how it was heavily it was memed, talked about, and just a general culture wave, and wanted to make an episode on it. I’m not trying to be negative, but I think the videos presentation needs to be worked on and if you didn’t mean how you said it, then it should be better clarified in the future.
There were other problems in the 00s from what I've heard, although cyber-bullying was still present.
Dang, i hated spongebob in the later seasons, but i have to admit, this is definitely an acception. They should do more of this!
The later seasons of Spongebob do have their good episodes. But this was definitely among the best.
*Exception
@@Thebigem is that you Pstar7???
same but this episode made me love modern SpongeBob again
@@moviemadness2536 while it's not on the same type of subject, the TV show Rwby has similar history.
This ep aged so well
Yes, it most definitely did.
@@moviemadness2536
It didn´t age, it was released in 2016, all of this issues already existed
it's always been around even before spongebob or the internet's creations.
I have to admit, one of the reasons why i really enjoy your channel is because i believe you have very respectful and very different opinions compared to other cartoon/media TH-camrs. And i actually agree with a lot of things you say, but of course, we shouldn't put anyone, especially people we don't even know in person, in pedestals. After all, we're all human beings with flaws. And that's unfortunately something very common. If someone is a very popular TH-camr for example, people will normally take all the opinions they have as facts, even when it comes to more relative and less objective stuff like cartoons or movies.
Exactly, and this episode shows what ends up happening when people blindly follow the opinions and advice of people they don't know. More often than not, it leads to disaster. And thank you very much for the compliments.
The internet was invented in the '80s and released in the '90s
It didn't become widely available for everyone to have easy access to until 2012. That's what I was referring to.
@@moviemadness2536
"It didn't become widely available for everyone to have easy access to until 2012"
What? That's not even remotely true..... I am guessing that's when you got old enough to widely USE the internet. Maybe don't get your 'facts' about the world around you only from the lense of your childhood.
@@JamesR624 chill dude, not need to be so fired up. From what I can tell, the internet got more advanced, and yes affordable/accessible in 2012. It's also when the toxicity started to become much more rampant, and children were starting to get access to the internet as well. The longer it's been up, the worse it's gotten, and the younger people are exposed to it. This slope became much more pronounced in the early 2010s. I presume that is what was meant. I mean in the 90s you had to dial in to the internet, have specific wires to connect, and pay a lot for the limited data you got. Eventually it became wireless, and was included with cable, which was also quite expensive and thus not necessarily a common thing for all households. Then nearly every phone had a plan where you got 1 gb of data, labeled lte, for free each month and any amount overboard meant you paid extra. Eventually that lte became 4g, then 5g. In the time it took to switch lte to 4g, the schools became having wireless internet, aka wifi, and thus students could access internet on their personal devices starting in the early 2010s. I may not have been around in the 1990s, but my parents sure were, and they love to tell me all about it and how difficult it supposedly was. I doubt something difficult for adults in 1990 to afford and use, would be considered widely accessible just yet. Widely accessible does in fact mean, easy to use and affordable for a large range of demographics of people. I'd say the internet is the biggest connection point we have as a society at this point, almost certainly being a daily necessity, and it only recently got quite this bad in the years ranging from 2017 ish to now. With the more usage came the heavier censorship of many creators, a filtering of free speech, and much larger acknowledgement that children do infact lie about their ages to access websites they shouldn't, or give away personal info to websites that they shouldnt. I can go on and on, but you probably wouldn't change your mind, because I'm sure even in the 90s there were a few trolls and kids with internet dial up.
@@JamesR624 I didn't get my "facts" from childhood. Cellphones became able to both have extreme internet capabilities and cheap enough for the average person to afford in 2012. And that's when EVERYBODY started using social media. Look it up if you don't believe me.
@@moviemadness2536 The internet was widely accessible before smartphones. There were plenty of people using the internet in the early 2000s via desktops and laptops.
SpongeBob got the right idea, that's why when I commit I try to be polite unless people are bullying someone else.
That's a good mentality. And Spongebob did have the right idea, absolutely.
@@moviemadness2536 thank you.
I'm surprised this didn't get more views. This is a great video!
Thank you very much. I'm honored you thought so highly of it.
The internet gives a window into how people truly think and shines a light onto the ills of the real world through artifical light.
The internet can influence people like the Bulletin Board did, but I do think the real issue is a matter of sheer possiblity rather than the internet encoraging it.
The internet is not a living thing, it has no objective, motive, ambit, or purpose besides what people imprint on it. As proven from it first starting off as an innocent activity in the episode, but being lost in translation, and corrupted over time.
People making money from it is also not a problem with enabling it, cause obviously personal freedom allows toxicity to spread.
The internet would not be able to exist without money involved, so its kinda moot to say that this would be why problems are caused.
I do think greed is an issue, but making money indirectly off of toxicity does not somehow intensitify a problem that already existed, with or without the money.
In most cases, we all just trade one toxicity for another.
So moderation is really just "hiding" it, like putting a bandaid on a bigger problem.
Human nature is complex, but often times we simplify it to fit into our narrow viewpoint of it.
We would like to believe everyone is capable of good will.
The more limited exposure you have, the more there exists a favourable perception of people.
But the longer you are around people, you realize that no one is entirely good or evil.
It's as Spongebob says: They were the problem, not the board. And just as you said, it's the people on the internet and how they use it, rather than the internet itself, that causes bad things to happen.
@@moviemadness2536 Indeed.
I thought you were making the point that the internet's design is flawed
I agree. People on social media have been much more toxic lately, especially on Twitter.
This foreshadowed twitter. 💀💀💀
Twitter was already out at this point in 2016 during the airing as it was up by 2013/2014.
Foreshadowed? This was made when Twitter reached its worst.
9th season of SB was not that long ago lol
Im confused, the episode came out long after the Internet was a thing and was parodying four chan. How did it "age well"
The internet became widely available and easy for anyone to use in 2012. The episode came out in 2016. So not only did it come out _relatively_ soon after social media started to come out, but also predicted what trajectory it would take. If nothing else, this episode is very relevant to modern internet culture and the dangers of it.
@moviemadness2536 you must be new on the Internet cuz it's always been like this lmao
@@Mikey-b1p No, it was WAY less... have you ever been to Twitter(X)?
@nega-guy have you ever been on four. Chan? Neither have I and for good reason lol
@@Mikey-b1p I think 4chan is just weird af, Twitter(X) is where all the extreme (and non-extreme) toxicity is gathered nowadays.
The internet only became an issue when big companies started policing what people could say.
As a community manager, I can confirm from first hand experience that no policies leads to the worst people pushing out everyone
Its the nazi bar or glass house theory. You need balance for a pleasant environment
TH-cam deleting comments for example
@@jskywalker58 bingo
I agree with almost everything you said, especially the main point about the bulletin board being an allegory for the Internet. I think of this episode as more of a real portrayal or reflection of what the Internet has already become, not as much of a warning as to what it could become. I was a teenager when I first saw this episode and was already aware that the Internet could be a harmful place.
The episode came out at the right time, and if more people had listened to it, the internet wouldn't be in the place it is today. How about we put it that way?
@ y'know what? This is a great way to put it.
@@sleepybirdcitrine501 Thank you.
Sorry but this episode just seems pretty average. I think it's important to remember that this episode came out in 2016, so the internet was already over a decade old so calling this episode ahead of its time is an extreme exaggeration or just a downright wrong statement. Hell, cyberbullying was already considered a considerable problem around the time the very first episode of SpongeBob came out. The whole sheep mindset thing has also existed since forever so overall what this episode does is nothing that special and it doesn't do it all that well based on what you have said about the episode. I'm not saying that these issues aren't still relevant, but this episode doesn't seem to tackle the relevancy in any deep way so the way I see it this episode feels like it may even be a dated example of this concept considering how the solution is ultimately "burn it all down" which works for the bulletin bord literally but it terms of what its meant to represent it just straight up doesn't.
I try to share positivity online when I can, being nice doesn’t cost much if anything, but I’ll also put my foot down if I find something problematic, offensive, toxic, etc.
Not sure I’ve seen this episode but from the way you described it, the message indeed seems pretty relevant in this day and age. Say no to toxicity, embrace positivity.
Be supportive and constructive. Your positivity might rub off on others and vice-versa. Better than spreading hatred.
Yep, I'd say that about sums it up. And check out the episode if you feel like it. I didn't cover everything, and it is a good watch.
@ I’ll consider it. And thank you for trying to spread a message of positivity, that’s always appreciated.
I would personally not be nice, but being kind. Being nice enables toxicity. But being kind shuts down toxicity.
@ Yes, kind, that’s also what I meant. I mean there are times where being nice is enough but being kind can have more of an impact.
@@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 yeah.
Liked so the whole internet cam see this video.
Thank you very much. I'm flattered that you thought so highly of the video.
SpongeBob's Bad Habit is another relevant episode and it comes from Season 12. The episode focuses on SpongeBob having a habit of biting his nails, which I'm sure a ton of us have done number of times. It's not one of my favorite post-sequel episodes.
Yes, that would be another episode, I guess. Though it's not as to-the-point as this one was.
Another contender for most relevant episode: Krab Borg, because of one dialogue exchange
"Say, you're not a robot, are you?"
"No, I'm not."
"Well keep your eyes peeled. They're everywhere."
I think that might still be a LITTLE before our time.
Nice video, I never made the connection between the bulletin board episode and the internet
Thanks. That's the nice thing about it, really. It doesn't smash you over the head with it's allegory, and can be enjoyed even if you don't get it's message. It really is a great episode from more modern Spongebob.
The problem these days is everyone takes every little thing personally.
The Internet at large always had trolls but back then we knew not to feed them.
This episode isn't even that old though. 2016?? Okay, yeah, it has been 7 years, sure, but internet culture has been an issue years before this episode ever aired.
The internet became widespread and easy for anybody to use in 2012. That's the timeline I was going by in this video.
Still several years after prime MW2 lobbies. Lol
So basically, Spongebob has predited TH-cam, Twitter, TikTok and Reddit etc.
Really had me going there with the ripped pants at the beginning, but thinking about it I couldn't think of any classic episode that fit the beginning, and only one came to mind...
"Ha I knew it!"
- my irl reaction to seeing it
Fun fact: the earliest form of social media was Bulletin Board Systems, which were based off of real life bulletin boards.
Maybe that's where they even got the inspiration for this episode from.
I used to join random minecraft servers and just cause absolute chaos for as long as possible before getting caught. I would destroy builds or cause massive amounts of lag by spawning thousands of animals in a hidden location. After a while i would only do this to people who were douchy. Ive seen people tear each other apart trying to figure out who did it or they just accuse each other. It doesnt take much for people to turn on each other
True. But that doesn't mean people should be more mindful of how they treat others online. And also, troll. 😏
One bad action can make others do the same
Yea it's a knock on effect@@soramembrino82
Remember: our closest relatives are highly aggressive apes that once tore a man to shreds because they didn’t get a cake.
It’s no surprise that we act aggressively whenever we can: we’re related to those monsters, but society pretends of us to act akin to ants!
The crusty crab being filled up with posted notes, reminds me off the sticky note room in security breach
Sponge Bob " The internet". Cough cough twitter
When I first saw the episode, I agreed with your interpretation, that a few jerks can ruin the fun for everyone else. But after watching your review, I now have a new interpretation: Dissent is bad, anonymity is evil, and everyone on the Internet has skin as thin as, well, paper.
In fact, by using a nickname, PStar7 was actually less anonymous than anyone who'd used the board up to that point. And maybe people have a good reason to be anonymous, like muckrakers and whistleblowers. Sometimes, the truth can’t be told if everyone’s forced to use their real names.
And when you said “Be careful on the Internet. Be thankful that you have such a wonderful invention at your fingertips.” it sounded to me like a threat, especially because of how the episode ended: Mr. Krabs taking down the boards and removing the notes. I see it as an allegory for Internet censorship, and how it’s supposedly a good thing.
All it’ll end up doing is give Plankton the idea to put up his own board in the Chum Bucket, where people who feel like they’ve been silenced at the Krusty Krab can go to say what they really think. And yes, that’s an allegory for creators of alternative social media sites. Now that would be a great sequel episode.
I'm not saying that anonymity is ALWAYS a bad thing, not by any means. Just that sometimes people take advantage of it to do or say bad things. And just to be clear, I did NOT mean that as a threat, I meant exactly what I said. And I have to admit, that does sound like a good sequel episode, but something tells me that things wouldn't quite work out for Plankton.
I've seen this happen to Jirard The Completionist. He made one mistake in his career, and everyone in the comments of his videos went hostile against him. I really liked his videos, and I wish this never happened to him.
I think this is just common sense.
One would think so, but there are those that make you wonder.
The fact that this episode is 7 years old is crazy
I know, especially considering how well it predicted how certain people would use and misuse the internet.
0:41 perfect way of saying it
Thank you.
😆 so-called lol
Man, it's like this video knew I was at work ... minding my own business.. on my lunch break... Then I turn around and BOOM! ... I'm literally sitting in front of a bulletin board.
Wow, what are the chances of that? Be careful what you post on it.😆
It's also because sometimes people assume what's in front of them and don't use their critical thinking skills.
Exactly, and the episode perfectly demonstrates that.
The funniest part of this is the fact this episode is from the modern age of SpongeBob.
Hey, believe it or not, modern Spongebob can still make good episodes sometimes.
@@moviemadness2536 I know, I like modern SpongeBob.
@@joshuaW5621 Me too.
While i have valid reasons why i dislike alot of modern spongebob i do like how this episode basically potrayed social media
Yeah, it was both very on-point and insightful.
Honestly, it’s a really Insightful video
Thank you very much. It's nice to hear that I did a good job.
You sound like Squidward if he were a New Yorker. I kinda like it tbh
Well, thanks, I guess. I'm glad somebody likes it.
@@moviemadness2536 best video I've ever watched, keep it up, man
@@chccon Really? Thank you for the beautiful compliment. I'll try to, I just hope I don't disappoint.
I wonder how many Alex from Tennessee stories were posted to the bullying board?
no offense man but every strong vowel you shove into every end of a sentence drives me to a migraine, you genuinely sound like gay brian
LMAO!
Basically, Brian’s brother?
Was wondering if anyone would finally analyze the episode as an episode ahead of its time
Well, I hope I did a good job at it.
The real issue with the internet isn't bullying. The issue is people from other countries getting offended, and having different laws, and the legal mess it creates in communications. Bullying and harassment aren't even close to the real problem with the internet. That's an issue, but the true danger lies in the legal issues it starts, such as possibly breaking a law in England while in the United States. They don't have free speech in any of the Western Countries anymore, and you possibly might break laws in those other countries saying what you say.
The Internet needs to be consolidated into a research tool. Like a giant Wikipedia, but with all the knowledge of mankind. Basically Google Books. But it's a wonderful resource for learning. You can teach yourself anything. I'm learning Geometry and Algebra and a host of other things. And can now do simple systems of equations.
But free speech is America's greatest virtue. And the internet threatens it. Which is why I'm in favor of getting rid of it. Except all the research based tools on it. Like you can learn anything you want on the internet. That's the greatest benefit of the Internet, is that you can learn, and it just needs to be curated better, so you get better information on it.
The internet is beautiful, but it's broken.
You did the twitter meme of inventing a problem to get upset about. There are a million issues that the internet causes. But as far as I know, the ability of someone to be subject to the jurisdiction of the country they reside in hasn’t been threatened by the existence of the internet. No American has ever posted something that would’ve broken a law in the UK and had the British police mistakenly show up to their door and take them into custody.
@@JohnDoe-kn7ex Yes, but it might happen in the future. In fact, Britain was considering it. That's what you don't understand, is the workings are already being implemented to have it be that way. You could be extradited to another country, for what you say. It's getting dangerous.
spongebob season 9b up until big birthday blowout (including the eps that are before it but aired later like shell games) was the return of peakbob, and i'm thankful it brought us gems such as this episode
I agree. 👍
I’d say 9B up to all of season 12 but I agree
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 Me too.
@ last half of s12 was mid, sure there was stuff like dream hoppers but there was also stuff like who r zoo which was rather loud and unfunny throughout and didn't even feel like spongebob
The internet ruined the concept of movie critiquing, that’s for sure 😑
Well, I try to be fair and objective. Can't say I always succeed, but I make a conscious effort.
SpongeBob tried to war us 😱😱
Why does this guy sound familiar? His manner of speaking is super familiar to a guy I know in a discord server I'm in.
If it means anything, I don't use discord. It's probably just a coincidence.
A nanny mouse.
4:58 Assuming for the sake of argument, this is based on a real screenshot and not entirely fabricated out of whole cloth; I have trouble believing it was not intentional. It's far more likely they were just being a Schrödinger's asshole, otherwise they would have at _least_ said "You _should_ die," if they meant to give the advice that this run was ruined, and the level needed to be ruined. Just some mildly pedantic semantics, that don't even matter since this is a strawman example anyhow.
That wasn't a screenshot, I put that together myself. And you're probably right, I should've had it say "You should die" instead of "I hope you die". But I hope I still got the point across either way.
This just further proves the denizens of Bikini Bottom are terrible
Well, in this case they're specifically meant to represent normal people, which should honestly say a lot.
I agree with the morality behind the writing of the episode. But what happens when someone like me who, by the way opts not to shy away from harsh opinions and still chooses to attach a real name to my screen name, and does not care if someone like myself doesn't care if they are hated for it?
And that's another side of the coin too because you'll have influencers today say who they are and say some of the shittiest things and express the worst of humanity's beliefs and people will still follow them. It's not just the anonymous people you gotta worry about and frankly, some people who don't fear death and are willing to be blunt, real, and even vulgar to a point along with the appropriate context, will have a life after death.
Yeah, anonymity does have it's advantages, but some will still do it without it. Even in the episode, certain characters don't even try to hide the fact that they're the ones posting insults, and that's shown to almost be a bigger problem than the ones who stay anonymous. All around, it's not good.
People just need to think about Megan Meier the next time they want to go around being a jerk online for no reason.
Im really enjoying your channel! You bring new perspective to the SP Analysis community that is sorely needed. I'm also dead ass fascinated by your accent. I've heard it once before, from a Podcaster who is probably twice your age; specializing in baseball and popes! 😅 I've heard it referred to as a "Great Lakes" accent. My brief attempt at light online stalking was unsuccessful. Can you help me understand your accent better without revealing inappropriate location details?
Thank you. I'm really happy that you've been enjoying my videos.
As for my accent, I get asked about it a lot, but I really don't know what to say. I'm not from around the "Great Lakes" though, if that means anything.
Nice
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Ey im walking here
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With cancel culture this video is right
Patrick is a metaphor for Russia
I feel like something like this happened to me a few months ago it was on tumblr about avatar the lastair bender content everyone including prying pandora the one who’s tumblr we were on was criticizing a post over a character I defended the character and texted my own opinion but prying pandora said that if I still wanted to make claims that burden on me then we started to argue over the next few days then finally she said “I can do my own interpretation or head-canon but no one has to agree with me “ I then insulted her and call her a hypocrite after a few days I felt so ashamed and then apologize to her thankfully she said it was ok but I still felt guilty. I never had much thought about this episode but looking back at it especially on your analysis I realized this how these thing happened people don’t agree with people opinions so they argue and say horrible stuff at something so small and simple it should bring people together and maybe it does but it doesn’t have to be like this not everybody going to apologize for saying mean things and that why your interpretation hit so hard I just feel so ashamed.
Wow. I don't really know what to say. All I will say is, I hope this helped you out.
thanks
I just post my artwork, my dogs, are corny memes. I don't try to start drama, unless I need to set someone straight.
And that's the way to do it.
Almost sounds like the mrbeast allegations 😂
I feel like this video is 10 years too late. Hell it was probably dated then
8:54 - I don’t get that meme. It directly contradicts what you’re trying to say in the video. I mean, the sky really isn’t blue; it just looks that way.
The point is that he believes the sky only looks blue because it reflects off the water since his favorite influencer said so. And obviously the sky is actually looks blue because of chemicals in the atmosphere. The point is how people will just blindly believe things they see on the internet no matter how much common sense or evidence there is that proves it wrong.
All u say about the anon person being a "hero" and the board never wrong and gosoel. Ppl NEED TO WAKE UP
That's exactly what the episode demonstrates.
I feel like the episode does not portray cyber-bullying accurately. It's one person, who's just stupid and insults everyone without wanting to, whereas everyone else seems to be civil, at least according to the way you describe it (I haven't seen it myself). It sounds like if you exclude Patrick then everyone else will be talking just fine coz we only have evidence of only one bad apple. You're giving it too much credit imo.
That's not EXACTLY how things go down in the episode. Those who've actually seen it will understand what I'm saying better.
No music?
Sorry.
BHD is a perfect example.
Bulletin Board boy
Omg mr krabs is elon musk but worse🤣
honestly im actually surprised pstar7 was patrick and not bubble bass i mean i know dude can be an asshole but considering bubble bass is in this episode you were at least expected to assume hes worser than patrick
Patrick was being a jerk by accident, which was part of the point. If Bubble Bass was behind it, it would've most definitely been intentional on his part.
God how do we still have this 4chan talking point of "anonymity makes you post bad" when it's been proven so many times in both studies and shown so many times real life experience that to be the literal exact opposite of what happens on the internet.
doesn't sound right
its not that deep bro
Get back to bad, dude. You have school tomorrow morning
@@quangamershyguyyz7166u bro I already got my 10 hours of sleep
Reddit in a nutshell lol
LMAO Reddit in a nutshell 😂
I'm going to say this right now this is why sometimes opinions can be dangerous.
I never seen this episode 😢 I thought I watched every episode of SpongeBob. Thanks 😂
No problem. Trust me, it is one of the better episodes from modern Spongebob.
Not going to lie, this video was a waste of time.
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So it’s an episode about Trump supporters
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@ishkanark6725 No, just evangelism. Go tell what you said to Kenneth Copeland and other heretics.
@@charlesselix203what does this have to do with the video???
@@StupidlyCoolspreading Jesus
@ how is spreading Jesus related to SpongeBob?