We got to remember we bring a very young team in here and all because Erick Tohir asked him.. but if I were Coach Shin I would asked more senior players at least 50:50 with the young players.. and is not just about the player but is about how to use appropriate tactics for our young players and no more excuses
It’s ridiculous to call for Coach Shin to leave just because of how our young players have performed at the 2024 ASEAN Championship. He’s already proven himself to be a transformative figure in Indonesian soccer. We’re still in the running for the third round of World Cup qualification, and let’s not forget how our national teams; across all age groups, the women’s team, and even the futsal team; are on the rise and gaining massive popularity. Yes, the boys haven’t been playing their best at the ASEAN Championship, but didn’t we all agree that this tournament isn’t a priority anymore? The focus has always been on preparing for the SEA Games and other more significant competitions next year. So why the sudden change of heart? Why turn on our own words and start bashing the coach and the players the moment things don’t go our way? Did you honestly expect us to breeze through to the semifinals without any hiccups? Be realistic. This isn’t the ASEAN soccer scene from a decade ago. Teams like Laos, Cambodia, and even Timor-Leste are no longer just “beating boys” for the bigger teams; they’re improving, and the competition is getting tougher. If our young players struggle, it’s not solely the coach’s fault. It’s a reflection of deeper issues in our soccer ecosystem. That’s on the PSSI, not Shin Tae-yong. It’s the association’s responsibility to create an environment where talent can thrive; not just rely on a coach to magically fix everything.
Agree! It's about commitment. If we want to take the experiences for our young players. Let's go! We can take the all results to go home as the home work, not the reward or punishment.
if pssi hav a target in aff why liga 1 dont take a break? most club in liga 1 dont wanna give the player especially starter player coz liga 1 still running.
Every event always under pressure😂 Always pressuring coach to every event, "if you lose this you're fired" 😂😂😂 only want to win but didn't want to suffer the process😂
Many pundid cant keeping their mouth to swearing or giving those kids harsh critique.. as an adult the pundids need to considered the way they all comenting about those young player because the do watch the video.. so give them encourage instead of harsh critique
its weird to blame everything towards STY. altho yes he made lots of "unique" decision during the tournament so far (make most player need more time to adjust to their new role switch Asnawi and arhan position, he give mdf role to marselino, he make dony tri play as center back, etc ) if PSSI want to make this tournament as exhibition for u22 player in order to prepare them for asian cup u23 and sea games then let coach Indra Sjafri bring his u22 team and handle it. why would they downgrade senior team player like Marcelino, Asnawi, Arhan, Struick, Ferarri, Caraka in this tournament anyway? i mean, if PSSI want to get serious about this tournament, then let STY go full throttle and use his available senior player in domestic league there is Dimas, Egy. Witan, Kambuaya, Nadeo, etc why make STY and his young team in senior level tournament? whats the goal here? if this tournament meant to young player then let young team play, if pssi want trophy then let STY call up his experience senior team pssi failed to communicating their goals in aff to the fans, its like they half heartedly sent team to tournament but still make people expect great result with young player who still need more time for improvement, thats how ridiculous rumor spread out
Ada bisikan towel kemaren di Manahan ke pak Erik..😅 Tenang nanti andai sty di ganti ..dan pelatih baru klo tambah parah ...mari rame2 geruduk ke rumah mas towel😊
@chiyiess Bayangkan semua target PSSI di Asia dia capai, Lolos grup piala asia Qatar ✅ Lolos grup piala asia u23, dikasih lebih ke semifinal ✅ Lolos ke ronde 3 kualifikasi piala dunia ✅ Posisi 3/4 ronde 3 (Berpeluang besar) Ranking 100 FIFA (Sedikit lagi) Tiba-tiba nasibnya tergantung AFF 🗿 mana di awal koar-koar "AFF cuma uji coba" , "regenerasi". Ternyata hanya omong kosong 🗿
Waktu awal memotong generasi juga kan banyak yang kontra, buktinya bisa jadi tim yang sekarang, dengan pencapaian-pencapaian yang belum pernah dicapai pelatih sebelumnya. Harusnya fokus di R3 WCQ yang masih sisa 4 pertandingan, kenapa jadi ribet semua cuma karena AFF.
Demi elektabilitas 2029. 😂 Sepak bola kembali menjadi tunggangan politik. Hanya gara2 ada masyarakat yg marah2, langsung takut kehilangan massa. Akhirnya ikut arus. Padahal, pemimpin yg bagus ya dia berkomitmen dengan apa yg dia percayai. Toh, masyarakat sepak bola kita mulai paham apa makna dari proses. Bahkan, kalau ditarik mundur ke belakang, apa yang terjadi saat ini ada kaitannya dengan Kualifikasi Piala Asia 2023. Itu adalah titik awal di mana Indonesia mulai dilihat dan diyakini akan bangkit. Bagi yang mungkin menganggap STY cuma terbantu pemain keturunan, mereka mungkin lupa bahwa yang mengantarkan Indonesia ke Piala Asia 2023 adalah mayoritas pemain didikan lokal. Hanya ada satu pemain naturalisasi yang saat itu masih ada sisa2 kemampuan passing ala Eropanya yakni Marc Klok (sebelum amburadul seperti sekarang bahkan lebih bagus passing-nya Dedi Kusnandar) dan si bocah jangkung Elkan Baggott, yang kadang kala diejek lambat dan menang tinggi doang. Tapi, nyatanya merekalah para pemain yang membuka pintu optimisme di masyarakat Indonesia kala itu, termasuk saya. Sekarang, jelas Indonesia butuh pemain keturunan lebih banyak, tak cuma STY. Pelatih2 hebat Eropa pun klo melatih Indonesia dengan rutinitas bermain di Asia--bertemu lawan2 yang lebih sulit, pasti akan membutuhkan pemain2 keturunan. Jadi, ya lucu aja klo ada yg sentimen dgn STY hanya karena dia gak punya prestasi di AFF. Saya pun pengen juara AFF, tapi ya harus lihat kondisi timnasnya. Klo kondisi timnasnya potong generasi kyk 2020 dan tim U22 kyk 2024, ya saya gak tega kasih mereka tekanan buat juara. Sebetulnya klo ingin juara ya 2022, pemain2nya andalan klub Liga 1 sampai bikin Thomas Doll ngamuk2. Tp nyatanya mereka juga gak bisa lebih dari semifinal. Krn ya mereka mainnya juga mirip adik2nya ini. Masih bisa salah passing, dan klo di dalam kotak penalti egois pengen nendang sendiri sampai Spaso kyk orang2an sawah krn dianggurin. Bahkan, Hansamu nendang bola di depan gawang kosong aja gak bisa ngegolin. Masa' klo pemain gak bisa passing dan bikin gol yg salah pelatih? Jadi, klo ngurusin AFF aja ya gak beres2, krn bakal ada aja kendalanya di timnas Indonesia. Makanya, menurut saya AFF sementara ini dijadikan turnamen regenerasi tanpa target tinggi. Yang penting bisa jadi pembuka opsi bagi pelatih tentang pilihan pemain2 alternatif ketika yg ada di tim utama cedera. Jadi, muaranya mereka ya ke Piala Asia dan Kualifikasi Piala Dunia. Dan menurut saya, juara AFF itu akan bisa dicapai klo didikan lokal kita sudah bisa passing. Krn kuncinya cuma di situ. Klo pemain kita gak bisa passing, ya gimana caranya bisa juara. Thailand bisa juara ya karena mereka bisa passing. Klo bisa passing, berarti bisa main bola. Klo bisa main bola, berarti bisa dikasih taktik. Intinya di situ. Jadi, klo ke depan pembinaan sepak bola kita bagus, ya Piala AFF akan datang dengan sendirinya. Krn pasti AFF akan menjadi turnamen candradimukanya pemain2 liga domestik. Sama seperti Piala Asia Timur, Asia Barat, Asia Selatan, dan lainnya. Turnamen2 subkontinental itu ya buat cari2 pemain2 baru yg bisa dibawa ke tim utama negaranya masing2. Bonusnya juara. Itu klo menurut saya.
Love to watch this podcast..the comments from the pundits more positive than the other pundits from the other podcasts
We got to remember we bring a very young team in here and all because Erick Tohir asked him.. but if I were Coach Shin I would asked more senior players at least 50:50 with the young players.. and is not just about the player but is about how to use appropriate tactics for our young players and no more excuses
It’s ridiculous to call for Coach Shin to leave just because of how our young players have performed at the 2024 ASEAN Championship. He’s already proven himself to be a transformative figure in Indonesian soccer. We’re still in the running for the third round of World Cup qualification, and let’s not forget how our national teams; across all age groups, the women’s team, and even the futsal team; are on the rise and gaining massive popularity.
Yes, the boys haven’t been playing their best at the ASEAN Championship, but didn’t we all agree that this tournament isn’t a priority anymore? The focus has always been on preparing for the SEA Games and other more significant competitions next year. So why the sudden change of heart? Why turn on our own words and start bashing the coach and the players the moment things don’t go our way? Did you honestly expect us to breeze through to the semifinals without any hiccups? Be realistic.
This isn’t the ASEAN soccer scene from a decade ago. Teams like Laos, Cambodia, and even Timor-Leste are no longer just “beating boys” for the bigger teams; they’re improving, and the competition is getting tougher. If our young players struggle, it’s not solely the coach’s fault. It’s a reflection of deeper issues in our soccer ecosystem. That’s on the PSSI, not Shin Tae-yong. It’s the association’s responsibility to create an environment where talent can thrive; not just rely on a coach to magically fix everything.
@@kilanspeaks very well said 👍
Agree! It's about commitment. If we want to take the experiences for our young players. Let's go! We can take the all results to go home as the home work, not the reward or punishment.
if pssi hav a target in aff why liga 1 dont take a break?
most club in liga 1 dont wanna give the player especially starter player coz liga 1 still running.
mntapp
King sty is nothing in asean after 4 years dude. Phs stil the best champion era
Ouhh yes yes
How do you think the Philippines matches Indonesia will Indonesia win
Every event always under pressure😂
Always pressuring coach to every event, "if you lose this you're fired" 😂😂😂
only want to win but didn't want to suffer the process😂
Many pundid cant keeping their mouth to swearing or giving those kids harsh critique.. as an adult the pundids need to considered the way they all comenting about those young player because the do watch the video.. so give them encourage instead of harsh critique
Talking with data, don't make too many assumptions, the data says that PSSI has had a meeting and decided to field the U22 Erik Tohir said that
I just didn't get the pattern of playing
Kiko accent is so easy to listen
its weird to blame everything towards STY. altho yes he made lots of "unique" decision during the tournament so far (make most player need more time to adjust to their new role switch Asnawi and arhan position, he give mdf role to marselino, he make dony tri play as center back, etc )
if PSSI want to make this tournament as exhibition for u22 player in order to prepare them for asian cup u23 and sea games then let coach Indra Sjafri bring his u22 team and handle it.
why would they downgrade senior team player like Marcelino, Asnawi, Arhan, Struick, Ferarri, Caraka in this tournament anyway?
i mean, if PSSI want to get serious about this tournament, then let STY go full throttle and use his available senior player in domestic league there is Dimas, Egy. Witan, Kambuaya, Nadeo, etc why make STY and his young team in senior level tournament? whats the goal here? if this tournament meant to young player then let young team play, if pssi want trophy then let STY call up his experience senior team
pssi failed to communicating their goals in aff to the fans, its like they half heartedly sent team to tournament but still make people expect great result with young player who still need more time for improvement, thats how ridiculous rumor spread out
pengin nonton ga ngerti bhsa inggris, skip aja lah
No reason this team will go to next round
kwkwkwkwkwkwkwkwkw....🤣🤣🤣 memotong kue ndak perlu pake gergraji mesin x , kocak sih. mendadak kangen dibantai 10 : 0 nih
Gk bisa bahasa INGGRIS😂
Konyol sekali nasib sty ditentukan di AFF ini, ngawur banget 😂
Ada bisikan towel kemaren di Manahan ke pak Erik..😅
Tenang nanti andai sty di ganti ..dan pelatih baru klo tambah parah ...mari rame2 geruduk ke rumah mas towel😊
plot twist sekali ya 😂
@chiyiess Bayangkan semua target PSSI di Asia dia capai,
Lolos grup piala asia Qatar ✅
Lolos grup piala asia u23, dikasih lebih ke semifinal ✅
Lolos ke ronde 3 kualifikasi piala dunia ✅
Posisi 3/4 ronde 3 (Berpeluang besar)
Ranking 100 FIFA (Sedikit lagi)
Tiba-tiba nasibnya tergantung AFF 🗿 mana di awal koar-koar "AFF cuma uji coba" , "regenerasi". Ternyata hanya omong kosong 🗿
Waktu awal memotong generasi juga kan banyak yang kontra, buktinya bisa jadi tim yang sekarang, dengan pencapaian-pencapaian yang belum pernah dicapai pelatih sebelumnya.
Harusnya fokus di R3 WCQ yang masih sisa 4 pertandingan, kenapa jadi ribet semua cuma karena AFF.
Demi elektabilitas 2029. 😂
Sepak bola kembali menjadi tunggangan politik.
Hanya gara2 ada masyarakat yg marah2, langsung takut kehilangan massa. Akhirnya ikut arus. Padahal, pemimpin yg bagus ya dia berkomitmen dengan apa yg dia percayai.
Toh, masyarakat sepak bola kita mulai paham apa makna dari proses.
Bahkan, kalau ditarik mundur ke belakang, apa yang terjadi saat ini ada kaitannya dengan Kualifikasi Piala Asia 2023. Itu adalah titik awal di mana Indonesia mulai dilihat dan diyakini akan bangkit.
Bagi yang mungkin menganggap STY cuma terbantu pemain keturunan, mereka mungkin lupa bahwa yang mengantarkan Indonesia ke Piala Asia 2023 adalah mayoritas pemain didikan lokal. Hanya ada satu pemain naturalisasi yang saat itu masih ada sisa2 kemampuan passing ala Eropanya yakni Marc Klok (sebelum amburadul seperti sekarang bahkan lebih bagus passing-nya Dedi Kusnandar) dan si bocah jangkung Elkan Baggott, yang kadang kala diejek lambat dan menang tinggi doang.
Tapi, nyatanya merekalah para pemain yang membuka pintu optimisme di masyarakat Indonesia kala itu, termasuk saya.
Sekarang, jelas Indonesia butuh pemain keturunan lebih banyak, tak cuma STY. Pelatih2 hebat Eropa pun klo melatih Indonesia dengan rutinitas bermain di Asia--bertemu lawan2 yang lebih sulit, pasti akan membutuhkan pemain2 keturunan.
Jadi, ya lucu aja klo ada yg sentimen dgn STY hanya karena dia gak punya prestasi di AFF.
Saya pun pengen juara AFF, tapi ya harus lihat kondisi timnasnya. Klo kondisi timnasnya potong generasi kyk 2020 dan tim U22 kyk 2024, ya saya gak tega kasih mereka tekanan buat juara.
Sebetulnya klo ingin juara ya 2022, pemain2nya andalan klub Liga 1 sampai bikin Thomas Doll ngamuk2. Tp nyatanya mereka juga gak bisa lebih dari semifinal. Krn ya mereka mainnya juga mirip adik2nya ini. Masih bisa salah passing, dan klo di dalam kotak penalti egois pengen nendang sendiri sampai Spaso kyk orang2an sawah krn dianggurin. Bahkan, Hansamu nendang bola di depan gawang kosong aja gak bisa ngegolin. Masa' klo pemain gak bisa passing dan bikin gol yg salah pelatih?
Jadi, klo ngurusin AFF aja ya gak beres2, krn bakal ada aja kendalanya di timnas Indonesia.
Makanya, menurut saya AFF sementara ini dijadikan turnamen regenerasi tanpa target tinggi. Yang penting bisa jadi pembuka opsi bagi pelatih tentang pilihan pemain2 alternatif ketika yg ada di tim utama cedera. Jadi, muaranya mereka ya ke Piala Asia dan Kualifikasi Piala Dunia.
Dan menurut saya, juara AFF itu akan bisa dicapai klo didikan lokal kita sudah bisa passing. Krn kuncinya cuma di situ. Klo pemain kita gak bisa passing, ya gimana caranya bisa juara. Thailand bisa juara ya karena mereka bisa passing. Klo bisa passing, berarti bisa main bola. Klo bisa main bola, berarti bisa dikasih taktik. Intinya di situ.
Jadi, klo ke depan pembinaan sepak bola kita bagus, ya Piala AFF akan datang dengan sendirinya. Krn pasti AFF akan menjadi turnamen candradimukanya pemain2 liga domestik. Sama seperti Piala Asia Timur, Asia Barat, Asia Selatan, dan lainnya. Turnamen2 subkontinental itu ya buat cari2 pemain2 baru yg bisa dibawa ke tim utama negaranya masing2. Bonusnya juara.
Itu klo menurut saya.
Ini maksudnya berharap di tonton orang luar gitu pake bhs inggris?
Itu narasumbernya dari luar
Biar lu nanya
maksudnya ini untuk tontonan untuk yang iq 110
Ngak juga, kalo loe bisa bahasa inggris aja sih