@@Aromatic-ring Tobirama chose a role for them that would get them hated by the public, they were then slowly isolated into a corner of the village. He also plotted against Madara becoming the first Hokage and then drove him out of the village. The Uchiha had no chance in the Leaf from the start with Tobirama there.
OddEyes Not true. Tobirama only held caution on the Uchiha. You can’t argue with the fact that they are an unstable clan. Tobirama only wanted a democratic election for hokage, he wasn’t against Madara. Plus look, Tobirama was right. Madara caused literally all the problems I’m the show.
@@Aromatic-ring "Unstable" Was loyal to & protected Konoha for several decades since it's foundation. Had one known rogue ninja - that being Madara due to Tobirama. Madara then manipulated Obito. Who caused the Kyuubi attack which got the Uchiha discriminated. Leading to their rebellion which got them killed off. Tobirama was the main problem.
Bryce j Madara caused all those problems because of Tobirama. If Tobirama didn’t conspire against him and went with Hashirama’s wishes he wouldn’t have defected. In turn Tobirama also caused Obito’s actions, and caused the Uchiha massacre which caused Sasuke to defect too. “Unstable” was the label Tobirama placed on them to justify his heinous actions. The real unstable one is Tobirama who held grudges against the Uchiha and slighted them for years despite them calling a truce with the Senju and was loyal to Konoha.
That went dark. Tobirama would never sacrifice Hiruzen for himself because that is not his will of fire. But even if he did, he would never make Danzo the Hokage because of how he wavered in the moment from volunteering to fight the Kinkaku force. I think that would always stand out to him and he would never trust Danzo to be Hokage. I believe Tobirama would have forced Jiraiya to be Hokage until he could find a suitable replacement in Minato, then Jiraiya becomes Hokage again.
James Toombs I think so to, the Danzo scenario just seems too unlikely. The best way to go about it is just make tobirama survive the fight albeit with some injuries
@@cursedsolo3112 He takes significant moments in the manga and he makes adjustments to them based on the what if change. So it follows the storyline of the manga, but it is altered.
Danzo was the most capable at the time after Hiruzen. That's what we know of so far, I'm sure among the whole Village there could be some but if they're not on screen then it doesn't count. You have to consider the advantage Danzo has, too, over anyone else that would be brought up during the time. Danzo had the experience not only as a shinobi with great skills, but he would most certainly learned under Tobirama's tutelage and most likely be his personal advisor. He cares about the Leaf village greatly, whereas if events shaped out the way they did then Jiraiya and Tsunade would have not been around. In a span of 30-40 years across three major shinobi world wars, Danzo would have definitely grown to be Hokage material under Tobirama.
@@toofinadoof2797 Even if Danzo didn't have a hand in a lot of the Leaf's business, the village would have been threatened to be destroyed countless times by the main antagonists of the series - Madara, Obito, and Zetsu. They all had personal agendas that involved the Leaf village, and people seem to forget that they were orchestrating events since well before the series start.
#whatif What if Jiraiya accepted the position of Hokage. What if Itachi killed Danzo before leaving the village. What if Hiruzen would have personally raised and tutored Naruto in ninjutsu while he was in the academy.
Jacub Two2 If Naruto was trained by Hiruzen he’d be a fucking monster. He’d solo all of Part I by himself, and once he starts to cooperate with Kurama he’d basically be Jiraiya 4.0.
Tobirama is a very underrated Character, People lowball him for no other reason than his fight with the gold and Silver brother's a feat that's impressive yet the fan base lowballs, Seth and Swagkage didn't help the case either when they lowballed him as well.
@@NarutoExplained he is still fodder compared to the other hokages though. Hashirama was obviously way stronger than him, Sarutobi surpassed him and was known as the "god of shinobi", Minato mastered his technique way better than him and was faster, Naruto is leagues above him too. The only ones he can compare to are Tsunade and Kakashi who catch as much flack as him for being weak. Doesn't help that his supposed feat was to summon water without a water source which is weak as hell especially when Kisame can do that way better than Tobirama did.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 He was a genius who knew that many of his projects would eventually become forbidden. I mean this dude is basically the personification of knowledge. And to those who think he was corrupt? No he was a very level headed and cautious Hokage. I think if he did live through that attack, he would formulate a plan in easing the animosity towards the Uchiha.
I don't think Tobirama would've made Danzo Hokage. He likely wouldn't have been as leinient with Danzo and Orochimaru as Hiruzen was and stopped them sooner instead of giving them more power. I think Tobirama and Danzo's mindsets don't line up as much as people think, that's what they were trying to show in that flashback where he made Hiruzen Hokage. Ideologies don't matter as much as the spirit and the will of fire.
Agreed and also, after fighting them for the better part of his life it is understandable he's wary of the Uchiha. I don't believe Tobirama truly hated the Uchiha, he was cautious. Orochimaru and Danzo would be monitored from the minute he suspected treason. Another thing to consider, given Tobirama's connection to Mito and the Uzumaki clan it wpuld actually makes sense that he'd be present during Naruto's birth. He has shown proficiency with seals and his presence could change a lot, e.g. Minato not dying.
@Mø Nälayé Point taken. Timelines are a mess. Kinda hard to tell their age since Hashirama was supposed to be a grandfather at his death and he and Tobirama both look like they're in their thirties.
@@epsbandy timeline is fucked up, how did Hashirama became grandfather before becoming father? Where did his son go? Where are Konohamaru's parents? So many questions.
@Jaysen Taylor Not true. The mission that Team Tobirama was on might have not been over yet, and he let them go so they could complete the mission. And Tobirama was clearly scuffed and showed signs of fighting, so he wasn't at 100%. It 1000% makes sense, it's just that people don't look deep enough into situations.
@@TK-lx6oc When we talk about fiction, we use the context that the author doesn't exist. Anything that happens, there needs to be an explaination for and Tobirama's death is purely justified. It's just that some people wanted something different.
Nathan Sanders tobirama was the first hokages right hand man - he was legit a war veteran & lived most of his adolescence life battling one of the strongest dojutsu wielding clan. He shouldn’t of got taken out that easily by those mist shinobis imo, but it was obv that the author couldn’t be bothered
Tobirama will most likely name either kagami uchiha or orochimaru as the 3rd hokage. The reason for putting an uchiha on the seat of hokage is because of how tobirama thinks. The same reason for making the uchiha the police force, that is, an athorative position to the satisfied the clan, but also easy to control. Kagami was probably the only uchiha that he trusted and by making him hokage, the tension between the uchiha and the village will be lower, but at the same time, the clan is being controlled and/or contained, him being one of the village elder. As hokage, kagami must now make his clan more compromising to please the village as a whole. And naturally, the uchiha will be more complying with one of their own as hokage. As for orochimaru, tobirama will see him as being a protege. He recognized orochimaru as having the natural skills much like his brother hashirama. That was also what he saw in hiruzen. I don't think he would choose danzo. Simply because of how he is. Their way of thinking is totally different from one another. Tobirama likes to be hands on and up front about things, where as danzo is not.
If tobirama lives. I honestly believe that he would’ve trained tsunade. To be either stronger than him. By teaching tsunade how to use the flying raijin and water style jutses for tsunade... plus he probably would’ve still taught tsunade jutsus from his brother Hashirama
@@damianc669 I don't think Hashirama would ever get mad against Tobirama for not calling him "Elder Brother" Hashirama dosen't seem to care about how Tobirama calls him tbh
I believe the way Danzo was is why Tobirama did not want him to be hokage. Sarutobi was the more inept because I think Tobirama understood the extreme ways of Danzo’s personality and probably knew it would have made things even worse.
Exactly i can tell that danzo was the one that let the whole village turn against sakumo hatake and I think tobirama would make sakumo hokage instead of danzo that a fact
Exactly... I don't know why people think so many stupid things about tobirama. He didn't hate the clan, he was very caution and no one can blame him for that because he grew up in the war era against them but still he himself said he had good friends from the Uchiha clan. If he was alive, the coup wouldn't have happened, etc
@Olena Strizhak can you believe that guy justifying Tobirama's prejudice against the Uchiha because he was in a war with them? That's the main problem with Tobirama as he could not move on. As a leader he should have been above that.
Tobirama would be able to keep Danzo in check, and Shisui would proceed with his plan and the Uchiha coup would be stopped (or delayed). In case the case that it is just delayed, if Shisui and Itachi can delay Fugaku's plan until Naruto (the shinobi messiah) becomes hokage the Uchiha's hatred will be terminated.
Yeah like Naruto just learned better chakra control and make a bigger rasengan... that's it. he was so behind sasuke, he should have at least told Naruto about Sage Mode and trained him in it a little in Mount Miyoboku and then after Jirayia died he could try again and perfect it.
@@MementoDespair I think naruto should’ve been able to make a rasengan without a clone that would also show us he actually learned anything at all from jiraiya
Tobirama would remain hokage and passing it on to jiraiya who would rejected it, to be honest, if it's not minato, then idk who would except orochimaru or kakashi and since Tobirama think orochimaru is so smart then I feel tobirama would have become, tobirama would know the akatisuki or danzo or the akatisuki try to catch minato some how, minato would recognize the cloke and tell orochimaru about it.
Tobirama's child would have been the head jonin at the academy, kakashi would have never been as ruthless because his father would have never been shunned and kill himself.
I feel like he would try to help his team mates despite having really NO LIMBS but I don't think Rin would be alive. I wonder more where the f---- was Minoto during this!
I think Tobirama would have learned and mastered senjutsu. His sensory abilities would be so overpowered, and his water style jutsu would be the size of a lake. LOL
Monitoring yes but I don't think the slaughter would of happen, Shisui wouldn't be dead, Sasuke wouldn't be brother-less or family-less. Obito wouldn't be mentally f-ed up, Rin'd be alive, heck a lot probably wouldn't of happen if this was the case. Oh wait-Madara would still be a problem.
Monitoring yes but I don't think the slaughter would of happen, Shisui wouldn't be dead, Sasuke wouldn't be brother-less or family-less. Obito wouldn't be mentally f-ed up, Rin'd be alive, heck a lot probably wouldn't of happen if this was the case. Oh wait-Madara would still be a problem.
The Leaf would be way too stacked and would be more than threatening enough for the other villages to band together against the Leaf. Whether they'd win or not I'd doubt with how powerful Hashirama is.
Especially if the Leaf finds suitable Jinchuuriki for the Tailed Beasts they have. Then you got Tobirama to factor in as well who'll be the strategist for the Leaf.
Would Tobirama actually want to pursue revenge? Tobirama is level headed and pragmatic. If he could end conflict I’m sure he would if the conditions were reasonable.
Imagine tsunade taking out hanzo by spamming her punches and the flying thunder god technique she would be the one of the legendary sannin the slug princess tsunade the blonde bomber( shes called the blonde bomber because her hair color is blonde and it like how Mina to is the YELLOW flash and she's called the bomber because her punches are like bombs going off )
This is a very VERY interesting but DARK and twisted Like everyone else, I don't ever think he would have let Hiruzen be bait, call it the will of fire, protecting the King (the next generation), or love for his students (he was very fond of Hiruzen). But let's say he HAD sacrificed Hiruzen for the sake of his village and stability and gone back, continued on with his peace treaties and Konoha and its academies flourished..... How did you manage to acknowledge the fact that Tsunade from the age of 4-5 would be trained by the 2nd Hokage himself in a number of Jutsu's and specialties known to him and Senju clan alone, have her be an even greater force to be reckoned with than she ALREADY was and NOT include her at all in the events that followed later on? Provided she still lost her brother, and Dan some time during the second Shinobi war. I do think he(tobirama) would have helped her cope but on the off chance he wouldn't have been able to and she left the village. She still was a SENJU, trained by Tobi herself I think her involvement in a lot of things you mentioned later on would have changed the tide by quite a bit... Jirayra wouldn't have returned alone, he would likely have brought her back to the village. ...I think they both could have had a hand in raising and training Naruto because they both knew Minato and Khushina, they wouldn't have let their OLD TEAM MATE JUST STROLL AROUND THE VILLAGE KILLING PEOPLE, randomly. I think, they'd have played a major role in bringing HIM down and that fight where Jiraya goes down... Um, yeah you mean to tell me OP Tsunade just wouldn't have, like wrecked the Akatsuki, not even a little bit???- I still don't think Danzo would have been chosen as 3rd Hokage, simply because I don't think their ideologies matched all that much. ALSO I don't think Tobi was as kind or careless as the 3rd to just look away and let Orochimaru do as he pleased. JUST the fact that you ignored Tsunade even after mentioning that she'd have been like really strong and then have no impact on the story.... just about sums up how females are treated in the Narutoverse or any Shounen anime !!!!! But all of this aside, this was a very interesting video! I quite enjoyed it
But if Tobirama had trained Tsunade, he probably would have trained her younger brother aswell, preventing his death and maybe then Tsunade would stay in the village, and either her og her brother eventually becoming Hokage, as becoming hokage was her brothers dream.
Sasuke is easily the best character in the series One of Sannin would probably take in naruto. I believe that jiraya would take him in at first until orichmaru left the village.
Man I love these kinds of videos these be my late night vibes before head to sleep got me reminiscing and thinking up theories like the got series your vids are great keep it up
That should had happened , but kishimoto didnt want that , at least kishinoto could had said that tobirana was out of chakra and couldnt teleport eeryone
@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou you must be stupid. Tobirama would've dealt with danzo so the massacre wouldn't happen and kill orochimaru as well, 2 things hiruzen couldn't bring himself to do.
#whatif - Tobirama had died instead of Izuna during their fight. Hashirama sometimes seemed closer to Madara than his own brother Tobirama, but Izuna seemed to be the one preventing peace between the Uchiha and Senju. And thanks for making a video of my favourite hokage!
Damn that go dark fast lmao. How about if Donzo had maned up and went to delay the gold and silver brothers letting both Hirozen and Tobarama to escape?
What does that mean? Sense he has the bloodline in him from his mother shouldn't he still have some extra chakra reserves?? Or do you mean full out red hair and all??
Please go over the Kakashi Retsuden feats :) Hokage Kakashi himself stating he is now more powerful than in the War Arc, in addition to his new elemental jutsus really did him justice
The only reason team seven got the mission to escort Tazuna was because Naruto wanted better missions, so without Naruto on team seven Kakashi team would never go to the land of waves. Things would be diferent.
Wow!!!! I mean WOW!!!!!!!. That would be rediculuos how strong minato would've gotten, training under tobirama? If he was this good training under jiraiya, could you imagine what he'd learn from tobirama? Woooooooow
The land of waves won't happen because the mission only happened because it was a C rank mission and naruto begged for a adventure so land of waves becomes some service day task.
Lovely ideas :) but i have an argument that might alter a lot of what you said: Tobirama is a Senju and Senju have a really strong life force, like the Uzumaki. I think he will get much older than 70.
yes, but this is remade. Instead of having people jump back and forth between my two channels, I'd prefer to have the Naruto content in one space so it becomes an easier viewing experience.
People saying Tobirama was the cause for Madara's defection even though it was actually Black Zetsu's fault since he made the Uchiha stone tablet that states that Villages had been made before and they didn't work so Madara thought the only way to truly have peace was through Infinite Tsukiyomi
It's the principle moron. I mean obviously I know Sakura is a fictional character. I'm not one of those politically correct retards who thinks women with big breasts are bad and not appropriate for anime. I just think it was a fucked up thing to say. I was never that big of a fan Sakura myself but I don't want her to die. LOL
If tobirama was alive, most of the Uchiha would also be alive because the coup wouldn't have happened. The coup only happened because of danzo manipution and hiruzen Naivety who stray away from the 2nd ideology. Hiruzen even apologized in Shippuden and said it is his fault because he couldn't follow the 2nd hokage ideology. People are saying tobirama hated the Uchiha clan but he didn't hate them, he was very cautious of them and who can blame him for that? He was literally in war with them all the time and he had good friends from the Uchiha clan as stated. People are saying he was against Madara being hokage. He was only against it because people in the village and from other villages fears the Uchiha and it wouldn't be ideal for someone that feared to be hokage. Tobirama was a politician and the best tactician so he did what's best for the village. Even when hashirama was hokage, he was the one who makes most of his decision.
The Uchiha would be even more slighted due to his agenda against them.
OddEyes it wasn’t even that bad. The Uchiha were plotting against the leaf
@@Aromatic-ring Tobirama chose a role for them that would get them hated by the public, they were then slowly isolated into a corner of the village. He also plotted against Madara becoming the first Hokage and then drove him out of the village. The Uchiha had no chance in the Leaf from the start with Tobirama there.
OddEyes Not true. Tobirama only held caution on the Uchiha. You can’t argue with the fact that they are an unstable clan. Tobirama only wanted a democratic election for hokage, he wasn’t against Madara. Plus look, Tobirama was right. Madara caused literally all the problems I’m the show.
@@Aromatic-ring
"Unstable"
Was loyal to & protected Konoha for several decades since it's foundation. Had one known rogue ninja - that being Madara due to Tobirama. Madara then manipulated Obito. Who caused the Kyuubi attack which got the Uchiha discriminated. Leading to their rebellion which got them killed off.
Tobirama was the main problem.
Bryce j Madara caused all those problems because of Tobirama. If Tobirama didn’t conspire against him and went with Hashirama’s wishes he wouldn’t have defected. In turn Tobirama also caused Obito’s actions, and caused the Uchiha massacre which caused Sasuke to defect too. “Unstable” was the label Tobirama placed on them to justify his heinous actions. The real unstable one is Tobirama who held grudges against the Uchiha and slighted them for years despite them calling a truce with the Senju and was loyal to Konoha.
Tobirama was the best water bender in the southern water tribe don’t @ me it’s fact!
Devin Tucker nope, katara is. LoL
@@shawn092182 whooooooosh
@@Katsunai That's not a woosh, he understood the joke (And to be Frank, ruined it). But he understood the joke.
@@Katsunai nine year old
Wow i never though about it but thats true.
That went dark.
Tobirama would never sacrifice Hiruzen for himself because that is not his will of fire. But even if he did, he would never make Danzo the Hokage because of how he wavered in the moment from volunteering to fight the Kinkaku force. I think that would always stand out to him and he would never trust Danzo to be Hokage. I believe Tobirama would have forced Jiraiya to be Hokage until he could find a suitable replacement in Minato, then Jiraiya becomes Hokage again.
James Toombs I think so to, the Danzo scenario just seems too unlikely. The best way to go about it is just make tobirama survive the fight albeit with some injuries
@@graviton6436
Yeah, he could escape with flying raijin from a far off distance
James Toombs so is he getting these what ifs from a manga or making it up
@@cursedsolo3112
He takes significant moments in the manga and he makes adjustments to them based on the what if change. So it follows the storyline of the manga, but it is altered.
James Toombs ah ok thx
I don't see Tobirama making Danzo the Hokage.
Danzo was the most capable at the time after Hiruzen. That's what we know of so far, I'm sure among the whole Village there could be some but if they're not on screen then it doesn't count. You have to consider the advantage Danzo has, too, over anyone else that would be brought up during the time. Danzo had the experience not only as a shinobi with great skills, but he would most certainly learned under Tobirama's tutelage and most likely be his personal advisor. He cares about the Leaf village greatly, whereas if events shaped out the way they did then Jiraiya and Tsunade would have not been around. In a span of 30-40 years across three major shinobi world wars, Danzo would have definitely grown to be Hokage material under Tobirama.
@@Rakerong Danzo has all the skills but unfortunately his decisions put the leaf village almost into extinction
@@toofinadoof2797 Even if Danzo didn't have a hand in a lot of the Leaf's business, the village would have been threatened to be destroyed countless times by the main antagonists of the series - Madara, Obito, and Zetsu. They all had personal agendas that involved the Leaf village, and people seem to forget that they were orchestrating events since well before the series start.
Nah tobirama isn't that crazy
@@toofinadoof2797 Tobirama would beat him
Edit:Not like ninja fight
#whatif
What if Jiraiya accepted the position of Hokage.
What if Itachi killed Danzo before leaving the village.
What if Hiruzen would have personally raised and tutored Naruto in ninjutsu while he was in the academy.
James Toombs the last one shoulda happen fasho
@@champ1onslounge
Yeah. Hiruzen did not do right by Naruto, or Sasuke for that matter.
Great answer great answer
Interesting what ifs
Jacub Two2 If Naruto was trained by Hiruzen he’d be a fucking monster. He’d solo all of Part I by himself, and once he starts to cooperate with Kurama he’d basically be Jiraiya 4.0.
The Answer:
*Then he would've lived*
LAMFO
That was very straightforward LOL
except he died midway through lol
Lmfao
LMAO 😆 👀
Tobirama is a very underrated Character, People lowball him for no other reason than his fight with the gold and Silver brother's a feat that's impressive yet the fan base lowballs, Seth and Swagkage didn't help the case either when they lowballed him as well.
Seth at least corrected himself. Go watch his new video on Tobirama.
i remember catching shit last year when I made my Tobirama video. People kept calling him fodder even though I laid out evidence that stated otherwise
Naruto Explained Yes your video was very good by the way
@@NarutoExplained he is still fodder compared to the other hokages though. Hashirama was obviously way stronger than him, Sarutobi surpassed him and was known as the "god of shinobi", Minato mastered his technique way better than him and was faster, Naruto is leagues above him too. The only ones he can compare to are Tsunade and Kakashi who catch as much flack as him for being weak. Doesn't help that his supposed feat was to summon water without a water source which is weak as hell especially when Kisame can do that way better than Tobirama did.
Only few hokage surpassed Tobirama like Hashirama and Naruto.. not sure about Minato tho
I doubt tobirama would let a whole lot of anything happen under his watch. He was the most level headed and cautious hokage imo.
how is it level headed to make the most evil jutsu in existence
Olena Strizhak that isn’t correct at all.
@Olena Strizhak to be fair the uchiha are the definition of unstable
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 He was a genius who knew that many of his projects would eventually become forbidden. I mean this dude is basically the personification of knowledge. And to those who think he was corrupt? No he was a very level headed and cautious Hokage. I think if he did live through that attack, he would formulate a plan in easing the animosity towards the Uchiha.
@@Dranwulf how is he level headed? tobirama is literally a black arts dark magic evil sorceror. only an evil mind can conjure up edo tensei
Imagine tsunade never missing those bone breaking attacks by using flying Rajin.
One min ur jaw there the next min it ain't
well only 2 shinobies in history learned that,so i guess its hard to do it
@@gigachad-rx3zv The 4th hokage protection squad learned it aka Genma, Raido etc. but they didn't master it
@@electropoopoo1453 yeah,good point
@@gigachad-rx3zv Thanks
I don't think Tobirama would've made Danzo Hokage. He likely wouldn't have been as leinient with Danzo and Orochimaru as Hiruzen was and stopped them sooner instead of giving them more power. I think Tobirama and Danzo's mindsets don't line up as much as people think, that's what they were trying to show in that flashback where he made Hiruzen Hokage. Ideologies don't matter as much as the spirit and the will of fire.
Agreed and also, after fighting them for the better part of his life it is understandable he's wary of the Uchiha. I don't believe Tobirama truly hated the Uchiha, he was cautious. Orochimaru and Danzo would be monitored from the minute he suspected treason. Another thing to consider, given Tobirama's connection to Mito and the Uzumaki clan it wpuld actually makes sense that he'd be present during Naruto's birth. He has shown proficiency with seals and his presence could change a lot, e.g. Minato not dying.
syu that’s the word wary of them
@Mø Nälayé Point taken. Timelines are a mess. Kinda hard to tell their age since Hashirama was supposed to be a grandfather at his death and he and Tobirama both look like they're in their thirties.
@@epsbandy timeline is fucked up, how did Hashirama became grandfather before becoming father? Where did his son go? Where are Konohamaru's parents? So many questions.
I think kahin koji
He never had to die in the first place. He should have just given someone his marking and just teleport to it .
EXACTLY
@Jaysen Taylor
Not true. The mission that Team Tobirama was on might have not been over yet, and he let them go so they could complete the mission. And Tobirama was clearly scuffed and showed signs of fighting, so he wasn't at 100%. It 1000% makes sense, it's just that people don't look deep enough into situations.
@@dungeon-wn4gw 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th hokages all had to die, other wise konoha would be too op
@@TK-lx6oc
When we talk about fiction, we use the context that the author doesn't exist. Anything that happens, there needs to be an explaination for and Tobirama's death is purely justified. It's just that some people wanted something different.
Nathan Sanders tobirama was the first hokages right hand man - he was legit a war veteran & lived most of his adolescence life battling one of the strongest dojutsu wielding clan. He shouldn’t of got taken out that easily by those mist shinobis imo, but it was obv that the author couldn’t be bothered
Tobirama will most likely name either kagami uchiha or orochimaru as the 3rd hokage. The reason for putting an uchiha on the seat of hokage is because of how tobirama thinks. The same reason for making the uchiha the police force, that is, an athorative position to the satisfied the clan, but also easy to control. Kagami was probably the only uchiha that he trusted and by making him hokage, the tension between the uchiha and the village will be lower, but at the same time, the clan is being controlled and/or contained, him being one of the village elder. As hokage, kagami must now make his clan more compromising to please the village as a whole. And naturally, the uchiha will be more complying with one of their own as hokage.
As for orochimaru, tobirama will see him as being a protege. He recognized orochimaru as having the natural skills much like his brother hashirama. That was also what he saw in hiruzen.
I don't think he would choose danzo. Simply because of how he is. Their way of thinking is totally different from one another. Tobirama likes to be hands on and up front about things, where as danzo is not.
Tobirama invented every single jutsu ever
Master Gamer he even made Kishimoto forget no jutsu
Even the Jutsu that were being used before he was born and Kekegenkai as well
@@jacubtwo2938 I think he meant just leaf village jutsu
@@isaiahqjones2991 nope, he really did invented most of the jutsus known to us in narutoverse, including the forbidden ones
@@isaiahqjones2991 it is also the reason why Orochimaru out of all kages respects him the most
If tobirama lives. I honestly believe that he would’ve trained tsunade. To be either stronger than him. By teaching tsunade how to use the flying raijin and water style jutses for tsunade... plus he probably would’ve still taught tsunade jutsus from his brother Hashirama
Or SENJU ninjutsu for y’all narutards
Also I apologize I posted this commented b4 getting to 3:35 🤣🤣💪💪
If you think about Who are Orochimarus parents!?!?!?
Yeah that's true he uses more than waterstyle tho.
what makes you think Tobirama would teach Tsuna FTG when he never taught any of his other students that. Chakra pool aside
I always liked how he referred to hashirama as “elder brother” shows how much respect he has for him
I mean as much as I like Tobirama I know he knows he would get smacked around if he ever made his brother mad.
@@damianc669 I don't think Hashirama would ever get mad against Tobirama for not calling him "Elder Brother" Hashirama dosen't seem to care about how Tobirama calls him tbh
@@justablackpfp999 well yeah I know but I mean it shows how much he kinda respects him.
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Asura & Indra: we’re gonna let you finish, but we gotta have a fight somewhere in there, we didn’t reincarnated for nothing
I was prepared for “yooooo wassup guys” and you just let me down 😑🧐
that's only for unscripted videos. I do that to get the butterflies out
Hahahaha
I was waiting too
Why my boy minato gotta die in every what if 😔
Yeah why is that? Suck man
Besides the what if Minato survived what ifs
@@teateakira5971 most the time he dies in those to lmao
He would live if madara became the hokage
@@echidnut6602 facts
Tobirama would invent so many more jutsus and oh my god they would be awesome
I believe the way Danzo was is why Tobirama did not want him to be hokage. Sarutobi was the more inept because I think Tobirama understood the extreme ways of Danzo’s personality and probably knew it would have made things even worse.
Exactly i can tell that danzo was the one that let the whole village turn against sakumo hatake and I think tobirama would make sakumo hokage instead of danzo that a fact
The majority of the Uchiha Clan would still be alive.
Exactly... I don't know why people think so many stupid things about tobirama. He didn't hate the clan, he was very caution and no one can blame him for that because he grew up in the war era against them but still he himself said he had good friends from the Uchiha clan. If he was alive, the coup wouldn't have happened, etc
CPA they would die anyway because they would all just start a civil war in konoha and get suppressed fast
Olena Strizhak both are reasons why they would die anyway
Olena Strizhak the real villain of naruto was the unnamed evil uchiha that decided to creat an on going war with the senju
@Olena Strizhak can you believe that guy justifying Tobirama's prejudice against the Uchiha because he was in a war with them? That's the main problem with Tobirama as he could not move on. As a leader he should have been above that.
Tsunade woulda been the shit no kap she woulda got taught all type of jutsu. This man created most of the jutsu in naruto
he created 3
@@craigime the three most versatile and some of the strongest jutsu in the series.
@@craigime He created 1000 Jutsus it's just that only 3 we're shown and even so these 3 Jutsus are op asf
@@justablackpfp999 where does it say he created 1000 jutsu? i don't remember that
I really don't think he would ever make denzo a hokage... He knew what kind person he was that is why he choose hirezun over denzo.
Tobirama would be able to keep Danzo in check, and Shisui would proceed with his plan and the Uchiha coup would be stopped (or delayed). In case the case that it is just delayed, if Shisui and Itachi can delay Fugaku's plan until Naruto (the shinobi messiah) becomes hokage the Uchiha's hatred will be terminated.
We would’ve gotten that wall way sooner
and the uchiha would pay for it
@@NarutoExplained and those dirty clans!
What if jiraiya actually taught naruto some of his moves during the 3 years of training
Yeah like Naruto just learned better chakra control and make a bigger rasengan... that's it. he was so behind sasuke, he should have at least told Naruto about Sage Mode and trained him in it a little in Mount Miyoboku and then after Jirayia died he could try again and perfect it.
@@MementoDespair I think naruto should’ve been able to make a rasengan without a clone that would also show us he actually learned anything at all from jiraiya
What If instead of Tobirama Senju dying it was Danzo Shimura who died
Tobirama would remain hokage and passing it on to jiraiya who would rejected it, to be honest, if it's not minato, then idk who would except orochimaru or kakashi and since Tobirama think orochimaru is so smart then I feel tobirama would have become, tobirama would know the akatisuki or danzo or the akatisuki try to catch minato some how, minato would recognize the cloke and tell orochimaru about it.
Tobirama's child would have been the head jonin at the academy, kakashi would have never been as ruthless because his father would have never been shunned and kill himself.
#Whatif what if obito made it to his team before kakashi used the lightening blade on rin?
I feel like he would try to help his team mates despite having really NO LIMBS but I don't think Rin would be alive. I wonder more where the f---- was Minoto during this!
@@hiddenmoss3516 I'm pretty sure he died from the 9 tails before that time
No he was busy on another mission
He was killing stone ninja maybe
Tobirama choosing Danzo over Hiruzen makes no sense
he chooses Hiruzen personally before going on a suicide mission for a reason
Wow talking about a alternate naruto universe. That was amazing.
Stop it! Dont give me hope
I think Tobirama would have learned and mastered senjutsu. His sensory abilities would be so overpowered, and his water style jutsu would be the size of a lake. LOL
i mean he is the coolest hokage lol
@@NarutoExplainedI'm so proud I feel I need to cry
@@bombombarabom3794 don't you mean die
@@Renegade77784 I don't know about Senjutsu, maybe a water chakra mode or something
Or better yet make what if the Third Hokage never died like this one
that's a good one
Back to monitoring the Uchihas...
Monitoring yes but I don't think the slaughter would of happen, Shisui wouldn't be dead, Sasuke wouldn't be brother-less or family-less.
Obito wouldn't be mentally f-ed up, Rin'd be alive, heck a lot probably wouldn't of happen if this was the case.
Oh wait-Madara would still be a problem.
Monitoring yes but I don't think the slaughter would of happen, Shisui wouldn't be dead, Sasuke wouldn't be brother-less or family-less.
Obito wouldn't be mentally f-ed up, Rin'd be alive, heck a lot probably wouldn't of happen if this was the case.
Oh wait-Madara would still be a problem.
Tobirama is gonna build a wall
Tbh I prefer that Obito stayed dead in general
Naruto Explained that’s the Uchiha being lucky lol. Worst case scenario Adolf Tobirama might put them in gas chambers
#What if
What if Harshirama didn't give the tailed beasts out to the other villages but made the jinchuuriki's in the hidden leaf
The Leaf would be way too stacked and would be more than threatening enough for the other villages to band together against the Leaf. Whether they'd win or not I'd doubt with how powerful Hashirama is.
@@lancehvu Great answer dude!
Especially if the Leaf finds suitable Jinchuuriki for the Tailed Beasts they have. Then you got Tobirama to factor in as well who'll be the strategist for the Leaf.
that would be so op i could see hashirama giving a tailed beast to tobirama and other strong ninjas
Would Tobirama actually want to pursue revenge? Tobirama is level headed and pragmatic. If he could end conflict I’m sure he would if the conditions were reasonable.
This was really good man
My man definitely didn't understand character of Tobirama and doesn't know him much. He is the greatest kage in history
He’s my favorite Hokage
So you're a trump supporter
@@OmarLh685 what the fuck are you a commie piece of shit or what do not mix anime with reality
@@OmarLh685 BRUH 🤣
What if tobirama never died
Me:now thats alot of damage
No matter what happened it was prophecy that naruto saved the world
I'm so sad that this is true
In the databook, hiruzen was actually 38 yo, when tobirama died, not early 20s
To this day, no one still has more drip than Tobirama
Imagine tsunade taking out hanzo by spamming her punches and the flying thunder god technique she would be the one of the legendary sannin the slug princess tsunade the blonde bomber( shes called the blonde bomber because her hair color is blonde and it like how Mina to is the YELLOW flash and she's called the bomber because her punches are like bombs going off )
Tobirama sees Sasuke and Itachi still alive
Tobirama: Fine, I’ll do it myself
This is a very VERY interesting but DARK and twisted
Like everyone else, I don't ever think he would have let Hiruzen be bait, call it the will of fire, protecting the King (the next generation), or love for his students (he was very fond of Hiruzen). But let's say he HAD sacrificed Hiruzen for the sake of his village and stability and gone back, continued on with his peace treaties and Konoha and its academies flourished.....
How did you manage to acknowledge the fact that Tsunade from the age of 4-5 would be trained by the 2nd Hokage himself in a number of Jutsu's and specialties known to him and Senju clan alone, have her be an even greater force to be reckoned with than she ALREADY was and NOT include her at all in the events that followed later on? Provided she still lost her brother, and Dan some time during the second Shinobi war. I do think he(tobirama) would have helped her cope but on the off chance he wouldn't have been able to and she left the village. She still was a SENJU, trained by Tobi herself I think her involvement in a lot of things you mentioned later on would have changed the tide by quite a bit... Jirayra wouldn't have returned alone, he would likely have brought her back to the village. ...I think they both could have had a hand in raising and training Naruto because they both knew Minato and Khushina, they wouldn't have let their OLD TEAM MATE JUST STROLL AROUND THE VILLAGE KILLING PEOPLE, randomly. I think, they'd have played a major role in bringing HIM down and that fight where Jiraya goes down... Um, yeah you mean to tell me OP Tsunade just wouldn't have, like wrecked the Akatsuki, not even a little bit???- I still don't think Danzo would have been chosen as 3rd Hokage, simply because I don't think their ideologies matched all that much. ALSO I don't think Tobi was as kind or careless as the 3rd to just look away and let Orochimaru do as he pleased.
JUST the fact that you ignored Tsunade even after mentioning that she'd have been like really strong and then have no impact on the story.... just about sums up how females are treated in the Narutoverse or any Shounen anime !!!!!
But all of this aside, this was a very interesting video! I quite enjoyed it
KS if madara was the 2nd hokage he would specifically persecute tobirama also please do a video on WHAT IF tobirama trusted madara more
What's your ideal ending scene of the entire Naruto/Boruto Franchise?
He never died. Hes just chilling in the woods after killing the kinkaku unit _-_
NANII!!!
But if Tobirama had trained Tsunade, he probably would have trained her younger brother aswell, preventing his death and maybe then Tsunade would stay in the village, and either her og her brother eventually becoming Hokage, as becoming hokage was her brothers dream.
16:35 it’s not a What if without Kakashi Dying LOL☕️😰🥺😝🍃 Love your content. Your videos have always been top tier entertaining & informative!❤️🌟
kakashi owned count lol
Naruto Explained 8 Damn Times!🤣
I missed one of your uploads? How??
Edit: cutest thumbnail ever
Second Hokage wasn’t the strongest but made the best jutsu
There would've been a lot more Justus in existence.
I always thought when sarutobi died he was like 80 because of how old he looks in the anime
ORD is a good one make a what if Kakashi dad never died and became Hokage instead of Minato
What if the Sanin were in Konoha during the Kyuubi attack?
Sasuke is easily the best character in the series I like that
Sasuke is easily the best character in the series One of Sannin would probably take in naruto. I believe that jiraya would take him in at first until orichmaru left the village.
This one is good
I hope he does this
Man I love these kinds of videos these be my late night vibes before head to sleep got me reminiscing and thinking up theories like the got series your vids are great keep it up
How about Tobirama just uses FTG to teleport everybody out of Danger so he never dies🤦🏾♂️
what are you talking about?
Flying thunder God / Flying Raijin
That should had happened , but kishimoto didnt want that , at least kishinoto could had said that tobirana was out of chakra and couldnt teleport eeryone
Naruto Explains.
This was really good.
The Uchiha may of had a chance without Danzo being a douchebag
Oh God Danzo was the third hokage I was so wrong lmao
Matthew Kern tobirama would have done the same
@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou you must be stupid. Tobirama would've dealt with danzo so the massacre wouldn't happen and kill orochimaru as well, 2 things hiruzen couldn't bring himself to do.
Rajni Brown I must be stupid for making an inference about cartoon characters fighting huh, get a life.
#whatif - Tobirama had died instead of Izuna during their fight.
Hashirama sometimes seemed closer to Madara than his own brother Tobirama, but Izuna seemed to be the one preventing peace between the Uchiha and Senju.
And thanks for making a video of my favourite hokage!
#whatif hashirama didn't die early because of illness
what illness did he have?
The fact that minato is more of a hokage than danzo in this lmao
Danzo is just a selfish bastard
Just here to remind everyone that Sarada tried to put a "puppet" in a genjutsu.
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At first she didn’t know it was a puppet and when it didn’t work she found out it was a puppet
People: tobirama weak can't even match naruto's shadow clones and minato's speed
Tobirama: *Uninvents shadow clone and flying raijin
MOST UNDERRATED HOKAGE 🙅♂️
I agree
how the fuck is he underrated? majority of fans wank him as hokage.
Hiruzen
@@ilia1929 I mean he made the whole Ninja system of Konoha he did more than any kage.
I agree
Damn that go dark fast lmao. How about if Donzo had maned up and went to delay the gold and silver brothers letting both Hirozen and Tobarama to escape?
Can you make one of what if Naruto was full Uzumaki
What does that mean? Sense he has the bloodline in him from his mother shouldn't he still have some extra chakra reserves?? Or do you mean full out red hair and all??
@@hiddenmoss3516 If both of his parents were genetically uzumakis
@@BitchChill Good point, love your username. 👍😎👍
hidden moss I’m assuming that would also mean he’d have access to the chakra chains and probably more skill with sealing jutsu.
I'd like a what if on that
Please go over the Kakashi Retsuden feats :)
Hokage Kakashi himself stating he is now more powerful than in the War Arc, in addition to his new elemental jutsus really did him justice
gonna be doing Kakashi retsuden in the future no worries. I'm still working my way through the lore dump of the Sasuke retsuden.
@@NarutoExplainedWhile i still have you, Gratz on 100k btw :)
What if Sasori never left the sand village(but still secretly killed the 3rd kazekage)
Or look since you met what if tobirama never died can you make one what if hashirama never died to video
Was looking for more theories in the comments found out I was too Early :
The only reason team seven got the mission to escort Tazuna was because Naruto wanted better missions, so without Naruto on team seven Kakashi team would never go to the land of waves. Things would be diferent.
So you’re just gonna talk about how much Tsunade would be stronger and not involve her at all
23 minute video shhhheeeeeet must be my birthday. And did you get a new mic or gotta cold?
Yoooo. What if this man lived and trained minato after he trained under Jiriya!
Wow!!!! I mean WOW!!!!!!!. That would be rediculuos how strong minato would've gotten, training under tobirama? If he was this good training under jiraiya, could you imagine what he'd learn from tobirama? Woooooooow
The land of waves won't happen because the mission only happened because it was a C rank mission and naruto begged for a adventure so land of waves becomes some service day task.
tobirama doesnt die and remain hokage = everyone will die, well then...
Imagine if theres an Arc showing tobirama fighting that gold and silver brothers. I thinknit would be a good arc as well
The real title should be: What if the CEO of racism never died?
I could see Danzo showing up Hiruzen and being the diversion instead. This scenario would play out differently.
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@@N3ZYorK Tuff
you too sir!
Tsunade with flying raijin, now that's OP
My favourite hokage
Hahaha he said so intense a spartan would approve of lmao thats greatness right there
Seems like the Hokage has a very short lifespan
Lovely ideas :) but i have an argument that might alter a lot of what you said: Tobirama is a Senju and Senju have a really strong life force, like the Uzumaki. I think he will get much older than 70.
Every alternative timeline Kakashi ends up dead 💀
What if "Talk No Jutsu" is secretly a super powerful Genjutsu that Naruto subconsciously uses on every damn strong ninja in the series??????????
Wait wait didnt you made this vid before
He wants all his Naruto videos on one channel so he's remaking old videos
yes, but this is remade. Instead of having people jump back and forth between my two channels, I'd prefer to have the Naruto content in one space so it becomes an easier viewing experience.
@@NarutoExplained I see
People saying Tobirama was the cause for Madara's defection even though it was actually Black Zetsu's fault since he made the Uchiha stone tablet that states that Villages had been made before and they didn't work so Madara thought the only way to truly have peace was through Infinite Tsukiyomi
Kisimas blade or he would be s
Turned to stone if Jeria was in sage mode
You should make your own manga you got it all figured out
All i heard was dead Sakura. *SIGN ME UP*
Get a life, stop wishing death. What did Sakura ever do to you? LOL
Honestly she diesin most what if. I haven't finished it but i bet she died because she didn't study under Tsunade
@@Renegade77784 bro... Its an anime character it's not that serious
lol damn yo
It's the principle moron. I mean obviously I know Sakura is a fictional character. I'm not one of those politically correct retards who thinks women with big breasts are bad and not appropriate for anime. I just think it was a fucked up thing to say. I was never that big of a fan Sakura myself but I don't want her to die. LOL
This version of Naruto sounds a lot more interesting than the canon one. I'd watch the hell out of this one.
#whatif
What if Naruto wasn't a jinchuuriki
He would be weak as fuck
@@justablackpfp999 He would die on The Great Naruto Bridge
If tobirama was alive, most of the Uchiha would also be alive because the coup wouldn't have happened. The coup only happened because of danzo manipution and hiruzen Naivety who stray away from the 2nd ideology. Hiruzen even apologized in Shippuden and said it is his fault because he couldn't follow the 2nd hokage ideology.
People are saying tobirama hated the Uchiha clan but he didn't hate them, he was very cautious of them and who can blame him for that? He was literally in war with them all the time and he had good friends from the Uchiha clan as stated.
People are saying he was against Madara being hokage. He was only against it because people in the village and from other villages fears the Uchiha and it wouldn't be ideal for someone that feared to be hokage. Tobirama was a politician and the best tactician so he did what's best for the village. Even when hashirama was hokage, he was the one who makes most of his decision.
Then uchiha massacred will be more earlier Damn!! you uchiha
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