Over the last week I have watched all of the videos you have posted these past 2-3 years. watch a lot of TH-cam videos about fine furniture making and I have to say that the diversity of your skills sets are likely to be some of the most extensive anywhere in the world. It makes me proud to be a Kiwi and know that there are craftsmen like you down under. Well done Sir.
@@KingPostTimberWorks Hey Joey, just checking in to see if you're OK. You haven't uploaded in 6 months Hope you're doing well and just too busy to spend the extra time to film the work.
Thank you Joey! Hard enough to master the design and fabrication, let alone the audio/video production. You have quickly become my favorite channel for woodwork because of the clear logical explanations of what you are doing, why, and what you learned. Best wishes to you and yours!
A very nice and challenging project. It is great to see a New Zealand craftsman contributing on the TH-cam fine furniture making medium. Thank you. Paul from Auckland
great stuff joey. dark coloured objects are difficult to film so no doubt it shows up even better in person (tableson?). when making a torsion box i have stuffed the cavities with rockwool insulation to reduce hollow sounds or knocking. there is special dense acoustic insulation that would be well suited to this pupose.
always impressed with your work Joey - and in particular to this video the summary you gave at the end. hope you and the family are managing to keep safe
Joey, I am so impressed with your videos. I patiently wait for the next one... in the mean time I am rewatching most of the ones on your channel. Cheers Mate!
Hey man thank you for all that you helped me with I hope to one day follow your path of being a carpenter and with all of the skills you have showed me, I hoped to pursue that career.
Nice work Joey and a very informative video, I really appreciated the evaluation at the end as I believe it's a critical part of the design process. And yes, Purpleheart is a sod to work with. Chris
Thanks Joey for putting the effort into the video whereby you explain your choices and challenges - it really makes you think about your own processes. Being in Australia and using mainly Eucalytpus sp. I'm not so keen on veneering given the grain goes every which way. Having said that, I've found the Laguna bandsaw fence useful as you don't have to resurface after each cut as you can wind the fence over a set number of turns and get consistent slices. Also a thicknesser with a helical cutter and carbide knives is more forgiving with wild grain patterns (IMO). Again great work by you - your willingness to give it a go is inspiring. Cheers
Great video Joey - speaking of using torsion boxes in furniture. I just did it on a commission for a sectional where there was an XL length trundle that wanted to sit under the 'long section' - 85" of un-supported span that could also host several adults sitting on it. This was the only construction method that made sense to me especially since I was also constrained on Z (height) by the thickness of a rolling frame with mattress and 'seating'. While I enjoy following you on instagram, the videos are the best...
You are truly a master carpenter. Just discovered your channel, and its exactly what i'm interested in watching. Lots of pretenders on youtube who can pour some resin between wood slabs and call themselves carpenters, but you show them what the term really means. I have been learning veneer, laminate, edge banding at work for the past few weeks and seeing some of your videos made me jump out of my seat to my girlfriend "thats what ive been learning!!" haha. Awesome stuff man.
Hi. So glad Auckland has now moved to level 3 like the rest of NZ. Hope your business can recover. I’ve only ever used Purple Heart as an accent piece - never thought to use it for a whole project. Looks like a good result
Great video Joey. I've never done a torsion build before though I have wanted too. I think you might have just inspired me just the same as you were lol.
I've made similar structures on benches - torsion box with quarter inch thick veneer cladding the whole thing. Somehow i never really considered this method for a table, presumably because i'm dumb. I wish i had thought about this when i built a kitchen table for myself. I was using some really cool blue streaky pine harvested near me, but i couldn't get it flat - i ended up gluing it down to some MDF and veneering the edges. But that still didn't quite fix the flatness, and of course it was incredibly heavy. Mostly salvaged the project, but i wasn't happy. If i had simply planned to do a torsion box from the beginning, it would have been a much better project. Anyway - great video. I've used only small amounts of purple heart, so i didn't discover the planing and tearout issues you mention. But i was considering using it as part of a heavy interior door - so i appreciate the lessons! Great piece, thanks for sharing this.
Regardless of the issues, this was still a beautiful build and demonstrates why pieces like this cost so much compared to Ikea factory line pieces. The time and effort you put into your work is amazing.
I definitely like that torsion box approach - I expect you could achieve an adequately stiff table top with many fewer cross pieces, maybe as few as a half? I must give this a go sometime. Thanks for the idea and link to Nathan's work 🖒
The best part about your videos is that there are always tips & techniques learned that can be exported to other projects; I still think you've got the best woodworking channel on TH-cam!
i found this interesting as i had never considered using this type of construction for a table (retired now). yes wood in nz has gotten ridiculous. i thought i had found a new supplier recently and ordered a batch of furniture grade lumber from them. furniture grade my backside. half of it was unusable except in areas where it would never be seen.
Love the build. Not sure I like the colour. I will try out the leg joinery on my next table Thanks Joey, At least you found something to keep you busy ( for awhile) . We are so luck here in West Oz. No Covid problems 😊.
Imagine the persistence that took. Great look. Lock down a woodworker -- he'll figure out something to do. I'm sure you learned a lot. Now, for that hollow sound ... grrrrrr. The suggestion of rockwool is interesting but a real nightmare to control while veneering/gluing simultaneously. Maybe boring holes in the bottom and sprayfoaming it -- then adding a second veneer to cover the holes? Or doing it before veneering -- just level it off.....
I miss your content. I understand life can be more important than this. Just hope you’re well and I’ll keep checking to see if you produce anything more.
Very, very nice. Thanks for posting. I would have loved to see how you matched the outside radius of the legs with the inside radius of the table corner for the joint.
Beast mode cutting those veneers. Stuff smells awful. There's a time and place for torsion boxes, but I think they should be used more frequently for table builds. Excellent work as always
ok so it isn't just me. last time I've worked with purple heart my shop had a smell like someone had just puked all over the place and it lasted for a week.
@@justindesilets3526 there's a fun thread. Cutting purpleheart smells like.......? For me, what a litter box smells like after the cats do their business
While elegant looking, this table would greatly benefit from some aprons and/or stretchers and diagonal structural parts. Our ancestors definitely knew what they were doing when invented those structures.
The table looks stunning! I am a hobbits woodworker in Auckland and most of the stuff I make is our of Mac as I only know about Cypress Sawmill, could you give me a few pointers on where you source some of the more exotic woods you use?
Anytime Ive ever worked with purple heart I cuss the hell out of it. Seems like whatever I do I end up with tearout that I have to sand the shit out of.
@@KingPostTimberWorks It's funny, I know woodworkers that never sand anything ever. It's sort of against their religion or something. I'm the opposite, I don't hand plane or scrape anything anymore. Some say sanding will never look as good as a hand planed finish. I wonder?
Brilliant design & the technique is very inspiring to me as I am about to build a table out of mohagany and would like to avoid waste. That said, I have a couple questions for you: 1) Are you concerned about the expansion of the wood having glued it all to the torsion frame? 2) You used epoxy and I plan to use wood glue... would the project have the same structural integrity with glue as you have with epoxy or should I consider epoxy? Thanks again for sharing such great content!
1. Thick veneers have been around for a long time , the idea is that you use stronger glue than the pull of the timber and it's movement, Dap weld wood plastic resin glue. 2. In a maloof joint like like on my legs there is about half of the joint where you are gluing end grain which in my experience has better adhesion with epoxy
Nice clean design and a great way to efficiently use material. Great job! I’ve used purpleheart for many projects; as the tearout, splintering and dull blades piled up, I vowed never to use it again. But purpleheart can look so awesome after good sanding and finishing, my memory gets short and I go right back to it. Check out the Sampson Boat Company TH-cam channel. Leo used MASSIVE purpleheart timbers for the keel for Tally Ho, joined with scarf joints tighter than any joint I’ve ever been able to make.
Hello Joey, those are some great techniques! I especially enjoyed the leg joinery. What I was wondering: isn't there a risk of the veneers on the top splitting apart due to wood movement? I've had it happen to hardwood veneers I glued to multiplex and would like to avoid this in future. Cheers!
That feather board is for my router table with feed from the other side . It worked fine when running against the planed face. But was mostly there as a back stop so I didn't lose control of the board entirely
less then $500 for all that wood is amazing. Want to ship some to me? The Veneer cutting looks painful. Both in time and concentration. How bad was the splintering and tearout? Purple Heart is notoriously hard to work.
All that tear out can be artfully repaired with hard wax. Repairs might show over time with the darkening of the wood... I started using it years ago and I've been able to unclench my *ss cheeks when doing all kinds of joinery. That is an awesome table though! I love that you're willing to try new things and your pieces run the gamut of style. Torsion boxes are amazingly strong! I learned DON'T us Purple Heart to make a table🤣
I'll amend my reply to say that it depends on the span. I have seen this done at 4.5m long and the thickness is about 100mm but the edges are thinned down to about 50mm
@@KingPostTimberWorks Fantastic. Imagine the possibilities with a CNC'd torsion box out of carbon fiber or something and then veneered.. Woodworking is fascinating
Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like the featherboard at the band saw was completely working against you. That might have made it harder to push through?
Has been mentioned below , it was mostly there as a backstop so I didn't completely lose control of the timber. It was barely touching, because it is for my router table it feeds from the wrong way.
Over the last week I have watched all of the videos you have posted these past 2-3 years. watch a lot of TH-cam videos about fine furniture making and I have to say that the diversity of your skills sets are likely to be some of the most extensive anywhere in the world. It makes me proud to be a Kiwi and know that there are craftsmen like you down under. Well done Sir.
Thank you, very kind indeed
@@KingPostTimberWorks
Hey Joey, just checking in to see if you're OK.
You haven't uploaded in 6 months
Hope you're doing well and just too busy to spend the extra time to film the work.
@@Arational He is posting on his facebook page, but there was a large gap.
Thank you Joey! Hard enough to master the design and fabrication, let alone the audio/video production. You have quickly become my favorite channel for woodwork because of the clear logical explanations of what you are doing, why, and what you learned. Best wishes to you and yours!
Great work !!!
I actually like the accented black joint lines, it gives some character to a "one colour" piece.
i love that joint you used for the leg. lots of cool approaches here!
A very nice and challenging project. It is great to see a New Zealand craftsman contributing on the TH-cam fine furniture making medium. Thank you. Paul from Auckland
Joey, I sure miss you videos!
great stuff joey. dark coloured objects are difficult to film so no doubt it shows up even better in person (tableson?). when making a torsion box i have stuffed the cavities with rockwool insulation to reduce hollow sounds or knocking. there is special dense acoustic insulation that would be well suited to this pupose.
That's a good idea!
DANG! That's mighty fine sir. Thank you for sharing and inspiring.
always impressed with your work Joey - and in particular to this video the summary you gave at the end. hope you and the family are managing to keep safe
Great project, and yes super interesting how you put it together
Joey, I am so impressed with your videos. I patiently wait for the next one... in the mean time I am rewatching most of the ones on your channel. Cheers Mate!
I Truly admire your craftsmanship
Excellent build, as usual !!
Hey man thank you for all that you helped me with I hope to one day follow your path of being a carpenter and with all of the skills you have showed me, I hoped to pursue that career.
Nice work Joey and a very informative video, I really appreciated the evaluation at the end as I believe it's a critical part of the design process. And yes, Purpleheart is a sod to work with.
Chris
Nice job as usual. Interesting project. Cheers from England
That was a great video. We all learned a lot watching you.
Unbelievable skilled woodworking! you must/should be very proud about the result... congratulations!
Great work and beautiful table
Nice one, Joey. Hats off on account of you persevering with the "purperhart" (as it is called in the Netherlands).
Nice mate. Both yours and Nathan's work is inspiring! I used this construction for a big entry door and it's worked great for that
Oh doors! That's brilliant
Thanks Joey for putting the effort into the video whereby you explain your choices and challenges - it really makes you think about your own processes. Being in Australia and using mainly Eucalytpus sp. I'm not so keen on veneering given the grain goes every which way. Having said that, I've found the Laguna bandsaw fence useful as you don't have to resurface after each cut as you can wind the fence over a set number of turns and get consistent slices. Also a thicknesser with a helical cutter and carbide knives is more forgiving with wild grain patterns (IMO). Again great work by you - your willingness to give it a go is inspiring. Cheers
I like it. Has a nice minimalist look to it.
Great video Joey - speaking of using torsion boxes in furniture. I just did it on a commission for a sectional where there was an XL length trundle that wanted to sit under the 'long section' - 85" of un-supported span that could also host several adults sitting on it. This was the only construction method that made sense to me especially since I was also constrained on Z (height) by the thickness of a rolling frame with mattress and 'seating'. While I enjoy following you on instagram, the videos are the best...
You are truly a master carpenter. Just discovered your channel, and its exactly what i'm interested in watching. Lots of pretenders on youtube who can pour some resin between wood slabs and call themselves carpenters, but you show them what the term really means. I have been learning veneer, laminate, edge banding at work for the past few weeks and seeing some of your videos made me jump out of my seat to my girlfriend "thats what ive been learning!!" haha. Awesome stuff man.
I don't often watch things and say "I would like to try that exact build" ...but this is one of those time.... minus the Purple Heart ;)
Hi. So glad Auckland has now moved to level 3 like the rest of NZ. Hope your business can recover.
I’ve only ever used Purple Heart as an accent piece - never thought to use it for a whole project. Looks like a good result
Great video Joey. I've never done a torsion build before though I have wanted too. I think you might have just inspired me just the same as you were lol.
Great work Joey👍
Amazing job. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks again for another great video
I thought the rebated veneers to hide the seams was inspired! Great idea, and taught me a new technique!
I've made similar structures on benches - torsion box with quarter inch thick veneer cladding the whole thing. Somehow i never really considered this method for a table, presumably because i'm dumb. I wish i had thought about this when i built a kitchen table for myself. I was using some really cool blue streaky pine harvested near me, but i couldn't get it flat - i ended up gluing it down to some MDF and veneering the edges. But that still didn't quite fix the flatness, and of course it was incredibly heavy. Mostly salvaged the project, but i wasn't happy. If i had simply planned to do a torsion box from the beginning, it would have been a much better project.
Anyway - great video. I've used only small amounts of purple heart, so i didn't discover the planing and tearout issues you mention. But i was considering using it as part of a heavy interior door - so i appreciate the lessons! Great piece, thanks for sharing this.
Damn, you do some nice work. Nice job Joey. Hope you all in NZ are doing well.
Interesting experiment, thanks for sharing!
Thank you, looks great.
Regardless of the issues, this was still a beautiful build and demonstrates why pieces like this cost so much compared to Ikea factory line pieces. The time and effort you put into your work is amazing.
Thank you!
Can't decide if your level of skill is inspiring or demoralizing.
Hahahaha no kidding. He's on another level
I agree , great way of putting it.
Makes me look like a child while joey makes it look like child’s play
Hehehehehehe
Very nice work. Well done
I definitely like that torsion box approach - I expect you could achieve an adequately stiff table top with many fewer cross pieces, maybe as few as a half? I must give this a go sometime. Thanks for the idea and link to Nathan's work 🖒
Purple aside this is brilliant.
Thanks Joey. Great watch
Purple Heart is a challenging species to work and I agree sanding is the best way to fit it.
Yeah, just like Wenge. Its so gorgeous but so difficult to work with. Greetings from Germany! By the way, great work! Flawless in my eyes.
When you were cutting the veneers on the band saw, I expected the feather board to be the other way around.
That really caught my eye.
Caught my eye too, wonder what the reasoning was behind that.
@@griinder there’s no reasoning, other than it was a mistake on his part or he wants to make his life harder
Excelent. Congratulations.
Always good, thanks.
The best part about your videos is that there are always tips & techniques learned that can be exported to other projects; I still think you've got the best woodworking channel on TH-cam!
Thanks for your support!
Well that was interesting. I learned heaps from that
Very cool Joey
Yes!
i found this interesting as i had never considered using this type of construction for a table (retired now). yes wood in nz has gotten ridiculous. i thought i had found a new supplier recently and ordered a batch of furniture grade lumber from them. furniture grade my backside. half of it was unusable except in areas where it would never be seen.
Still a beautiful table I would be pleased as punch to own Joey.
Hey Joey just checking in and hoping everything is going alright. Take care brother.
Im so jealous of your table saw..... Lol
Thank you!
Love the build. Not sure I like the colour. I will try out the leg joinery on my next table Thanks Joey, At least you found something to keep you busy ( for awhile) . We are so luck here in West Oz. No Covid problems 😊.
Pretty cool build... We are now out of LV4 and into LV4 with KFC. :). Keep up the great work and posts.
Nice work
Good job 😀😀😀😀
Amazing 👌👍👏👏👏👏❤️
Imagine the persistence that took. Great look. Lock down a woodworker -- he'll figure out something to do. I'm sure you learned a lot. Now, for that hollow sound ... grrrrrr. The suggestion of rockwool is interesting but a real nightmare to control while veneering/gluing simultaneously. Maybe boring holes in the bottom and sprayfoaming it -- then adding a second veneer to cover the holes? Or doing it before veneering -- just level it off.....
I was thinking that too
I miss your content. I understand life can be more important than this. Just hope you’re well and I’ll keep checking to see if you produce anything more.
Very, very nice. Thanks for posting. I would have loved to see how you matched the outside radius of the legs with the inside radius of the table corner for the joint.
Thanks , was just a matching radius round over bit that I happened to have
Amazing work mate! Just one pointer...looks like your feather board is wrong way round when you're cutting veneers on band saw.
I just said same thing, and can’t believe it took so long scrolling down comments to find someone else who noticed.
Purpleheart is one of those odd woods, It doesn't work well, but it has a beautiful purple color, until it turns brown.
@5:05 think that finger board might be backwards
It is backwards ....
Agree
Maybe why it was so difficult to get through the blade
Everything is backward down under.
as he said, took a better part of the day to push thro.. :-P
Beast mode cutting those veneers. Stuff smells awful. There's a time and place for torsion boxes, but I think they should be used more frequently for table builds. Excellent work as always
ok so it isn't just me. last time I've worked with purple heart my shop had a smell like someone had just puked all over the place and it lasted for a week.
@@justindesilets3526 there's a fun thread. Cutting purpleheart smells like.......? For me, what a litter box smells like after the cats do their business
@@varsitynoodle didn't know about that. Thanks for the info. And yeah I'm never using purple heart again!
Would make a nice executive desk.
It would probably be a little easier to cut veneers if you put your feather board facing in the correct direction
No. I Was aware of it and had no pressure on it.
Your featherboard is backwards at @5:19 . Might be why you were getting so much resistance
While elegant looking, this table would greatly benefit from some aprons and/or stretchers and diagonal structural parts. Our ancestors definitely knew what they were doing when invented those structures.
Where is Joey?!
Hope you’re doing ok
The table looks stunning!
I am a hobbits woodworker in Auckland and most of the stuff I make is our of Mac as I only know about Cypress Sawmill, could you give me a few pointers on where you source some of the more exotic woods you use?
good
I'd never heard of a torsion box, now I'm looking at the table I made and wishing it didn't have stringers in it now.
4:46
Isn't the finger guide press thingy situated the wrong way round?
King post timber works held together by blue tape
Anytime Ive ever worked with purple heart I cuss the hell out of it. Seems like whatever I do I end up with tearout that I have to sand the shit out of.
😂 yup
@@KingPostTimberWorks It's funny, I know woodworkers that never sand anything ever. It's sort of against their religion or something. I'm the opposite, I don't hand plane or scrape anything anymore. Some say sanding will never look as good as a hand planed finish. I wonder?
Were the veneers hard to cut, or was the feather board backwards? Love your vids. No frills, just building stuff
Hard to cut. Feather board is for my router table which feeds from the other way, and was bearly touching the timber.
@@KingPostTimberWorks thanks, Joey.
Brilliant design & the technique is very inspiring to me as I am about to build a table out of mohagany and would like to avoid waste. That said, I have a couple questions for you:
1) Are you concerned about the expansion of the wood having glued it all to the torsion frame?
2) You used epoxy and I plan to use wood glue... would the project have the same structural integrity with glue as you have with epoxy or should I consider epoxy?
Thanks again for sharing such great content!
1. Thick veneers have been around for a long time , the idea is that you use stronger glue than the pull of the timber and it's movement, Dap weld wood plastic resin glue.
2. In a maloof joint like like on my legs there is about half of the joint where you are gluing end grain which in my experience has better adhesion with epoxy
Nice clean design and a great way to efficiently use material. Great job!
I’ve used purpleheart for many projects; as the tearout, splintering and dull blades piled up, I vowed never to use it again. But purpleheart can look so awesome after good sanding and finishing, my memory gets short and I go right back to it.
Check out the Sampson Boat Company TH-cam channel. Leo used MASSIVE purpleheart timbers for the keel for Tally Ho, joined with scarf joints tighter than any joint I’ve ever been able to make.
Link to the video I mentioned.
th-cam.com/video/GKm460QWupM/w-d-xo.html
Awesome build, turned out looking nice.
Random question: what is the brand of your pants? I'm looking for some something similar.
why do you use your featherboard backwards on the tablesaw?
Joey, we talked about your Baltic Birch sheet flooring experiment a few years ago. Can you give us an update?
Hello Joey, those are some great techniques! I especially enjoyed the leg joinery. What I was wondering: isn't there a risk of the veneers on the top splitting apart due to wood movement? I've had it happen to hardwood veneers I glued to multiplex and would like to avoid this in future. Cheers!
That featherboard being backwards on the bandsaw probably didn't help with veneers either. Was that intentional?
That feather board is for my router table with feed from the other side . It worked fine when running against the planed face. But was mostly there as a back stop so I didn't lose control of the board entirely
I noticed this too. I guess if it wasn’t tight to the wood it should be ok.
Finnageling for the first piece. So the tool used is a finnagle then?
Nice table btw.
less then $500 for all that wood is amazing. Want to ship some to me?
The Veneer cutting looks painful. Both in time and concentration. How bad was the splintering and tearout? Purple Heart is notoriously hard to work.
Purple heart is very hard we have lots here in the Caribbean
Are you done making videos
Does being a torsion box make much of a difference to the weight of the piece? If that was solid timber it would be very heavy.
Yes it's a very light weight table actually
Cutting your veneers would have been easier if you wouldn't have had the featherboard backwards. You were fighting the pressure from that too. ; )
No I wasn't. It was backwards but only barley touching.
esperamos nuevos videos
I was wondering if you could put thin copper strips where the leg glue lines are. Make what you don't like into a accent.
Perhaps sanding with a Rotex and a hard pad instead of running it through the planer?
So how do you make sure the Purple Heart retains its color over time?
Well in my experience as long as it's not in direct sunlight it will stay purple but darken and become richer with ambient light.
All that tear out can be artfully repaired with hard wax. Repairs might show over time with the darkening of the wood... I started using it years ago and I've been able to unclench my *ss cheeks when doing all kinds of joinery. That is an awesome table though! I love that you're willing to try new things and your pieces run the gamut of style. Torsion boxes are amazingly strong! I learned DON'T us Purple Heart to make a table🤣
Torsion boxes are interesting... How much thinner do you think you could go before the strength wouldn't be acceptable anymore?
I have pondered that , I think about 40mm for the ply plus veneers
I'll amend my reply to say that it depends on the span. I have seen this done at 4.5m long and the thickness is about 100mm but the edges are thinned down to about 50mm
@@KingPostTimberWorks thinned down , meaning like a acute angle cut?
@@KingPostTimberWorks Fantastic. Imagine the possibilities with a CNC'd torsion box out of carbon fiber or something and then veneered.. Woodworking is fascinating
@@milootje007 yes indeed that's food for thought!
What make of glue do you use???
Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like the featherboard at the band saw was completely working against you. That might have made it harder to push through?
Has been mentioned below , it was mostly there as a backstop so I didn't completely lose control of the timber. It was barely touching, because it is for my router table it feeds from the wrong way.