I remember 1994 you can only find and watch this kind of videos in a big University library like Standford or Berkeley, now there's Saint Tube, thanks God!!
...cannot help but notice Stephen Crane Red Badge of Courage and Selected Prose and Works next to IM... Henry, the protagonist, begins with being invisible for a time in that novel. One of Ellison's favorites...
Technical Consultant, his dear friend, celebrated writer and fellow Tuskegee student, Albert Murray. At 27:01 the camera is in close-up and is synced with the question of the progress of current novel. Ellison shifts and shows that furrowed brow. To have the novel in progress in the hands of his editor was an important win as the wins were hard to come by. The editor of Invisible Man was Stanley Edgar Hyman. Stanley died in 1970. Ellison never recovered. Stanley was much more than an editor. The fire though devastating, that destroyed the manuscript, would not have destroyed Ellison's framing and construct of the novel. Ellison was the architect and Stanley the builder...Mrs. Fanny Ellison, the foreman!
essentially correct in all respect, except that I've suggested that SEH was a skilled assembler with a great sense of structure. See me in a recent REASON. Have you ever seen earlier drafts?
@@richardkostelanetz4284 Earlier drafts by SEH? No. Only written drafts at the Art Institute of Chicago in 2016, in the companion Book as well, I recall, and edits from Mrs. Ellison in other sources...and Ellison's own admission. Nothing comprehensive. I don't recall earlier drafts listed at Library of Congress either -- but will add to my next visit to LOC.. Assembler, structure, SEH, no argument here, underscores SEH full value. I have seen Ida Espen Guggenheimer's edits -- after IM was published.
@kafenwar He was an introvert, that became extroverted when libations were present. Now, did he run to parties to avoid having to face a blank page? Hmmm..
@@allenmmcfarlane4977 That's also a strong possibility. I've read Three Days Before the Shooting and have the impression that he got too caught up in the details and the sound of his own voice.
Ellison discusses what it means to be an American writer: 23:40 to 27:00, note how he defines his technique as being of value the the "American writer" rather than making a distinction of a sub-division called the "Negro American writer".
C. Matthew Hawkins: Absolutely. When I first read Invisible Man, I couldn't believe my eyes. for sure, it had a distinctive impetus to progress a black voice. But that was secondary if not tertiary. it was about being an intellectual literary stud. and he nailed it. I searched, "Ralph Ellison, Invisible Man," on TH-cam and some nonsense regarding Kendrick Lamar invisible man came up. And there were some silly lectures and dissertations trying to create continuity between the two. Ralph Ellison is to Kendrick Lamar as William Faulkner is to Kenny Chesney. How did we go from the Harlem Renaissance -- Ellison, Hughes, Hurston, Cullen, et al -- to, what -- Ice Cube, Kanye West and Jesse Jackson? in a unanimous inexorable inclined towards inclusion, equality, and empowerment, how did the figures representimg black inteligencia decline over half half-century?
@@daytonasayswhat9333 While I agree with most everything you point out I think it's important to recognize the unique story-telling ability Kendrick Lamar has in his own right. The same eloquence and gravitas that Ellison was referring to in the video regarding black ministers exists in much of Kendrick's music and while Kendrick's work is incomparable to the human complexities and depth of character that Ellison portrayed in his writings I see it as somewhat unfair to compare the two being that they are working in two different mediums. All that being said, I wholeheartedly agree on your general point of a cultural decline. While I don't believe I can' speak too much regarding the lowering standard of intellectual leaders in the black community I can say that it seems as though the decline in literacy levels across the board and just a general disinterest in the power of language have much to do with the problems your bringing up.
This gives me the motivation and courage to keep writing so that art can remain alive.
Many Thanks for this. I've been waiting to hear him speak.
Charles Rich I wish he finished his second book Juneteenth
I remember 1994 you can only find and watch this kind of videos in a big University library like Standford or Berkeley, now there's Saint Tube, thanks God!!
Love this, thank you, this has been added to a playlist...
...cannot help but notice Stephen Crane Red Badge of Courage and Selected Prose and Works next to IM... Henry, the protagonist, begins with being invisible for a time in that novel. One of Ellison's favorites...
A TRUE MASTER...
The excerpt can be found in Juneteenth, a novel published after Ellison's death, for anyone who's wondering
There is another try at it, called Three Days Before The Shooting..., which has received better reviews on Amazon
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Ellison reads selection from his work-in-progress 20:25 to 22:50
Technical Consultant, his dear friend, celebrated writer and fellow Tuskegee student, Albert Murray. At 27:01 the camera is in close-up and is synced with the question of the progress of current novel. Ellison shifts and shows that furrowed brow. To have the novel in progress in the hands of his editor was an important win as the wins were hard to come by. The editor of Invisible Man was Stanley Edgar Hyman. Stanley died in 1970. Ellison never recovered. Stanley was much more than an editor. The fire though devastating, that destroyed the manuscript, would not have destroyed Ellison's framing and construct of the novel. Ellison was the architect and Stanley the builder...Mrs. Fanny Ellison, the foreman!
essentially correct in all respect, except that I've suggested that SEH was a skilled assembler with a great sense of structure. See me in a recent REASON. Have you ever seen earlier drafts?
@@richardkostelanetz4284 Earlier drafts by SEH? No. Only written drafts at the Art Institute of Chicago in 2016, in the companion Book as well, I recall, and edits from Mrs. Ellison in other sources...and Ellison's own admission. Nothing comprehensive. I don't recall earlier drafts listed at Library of Congress either -- but will add to my next visit to LOC.. Assembler, structure, SEH, no argument here, underscores SEH full value. I have seen Ida Espen Guggenheimer's edits -- after IM was published.
Ellison was also distracted by the endless rounds of cocktail parties and seminars given to him by his lit establishment friends.
@kafenwar He was an introvert, that became extroverted when libations were present. Now, did he run to parties to avoid having to face a blank page? Hmmm..
@@allenmmcfarlane4977 That's also a strong possibility. I've read Three Days Before the Shooting and have the impression that he got too caught up in the details and the sound of his own voice.
Ellison discusses what it means to be an American writer: 23:40 to 27:00, note how he defines his technique as being of value the the "American writer" rather than making a distinction of a sub-division called the "Negro American writer".
C. Matthew Hawkins: Absolutely. When I first read Invisible Man, I couldn't believe my eyes. for sure, it had a distinctive impetus to progress a black voice. But that was secondary if not tertiary. it was about being an intellectual literary stud. and he nailed it.
I searched, "Ralph Ellison, Invisible Man," on TH-cam and some nonsense regarding Kendrick Lamar invisible man came up. And there were some silly lectures and dissertations trying to create continuity between the two.
Ralph Ellison is to Kendrick Lamar as William Faulkner is to Kenny Chesney.
How did we go from the Harlem Renaissance -- Ellison, Hughes, Hurston, Cullen, et al -- to, what -- Ice Cube, Kanye West and Jesse Jackson?
in a unanimous inexorable inclined towards inclusion, equality, and empowerment, how did the figures representimg black inteligencia decline over half half-century?
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@@daytonasayswhat9333 While I agree with most everything you point out I think it's important to recognize the unique story-telling ability Kendrick Lamar has in his own right. The same eloquence and gravitas that Ellison was referring to in the video regarding black ministers exists in much of Kendrick's music and while Kendrick's work is incomparable to the human complexities and depth of character that Ellison portrayed in his writings I see it as somewhat unfair to compare the two being that they are working in two different mediums. All that being said, I wholeheartedly agree on your general point of a cultural decline. While I don't believe I can' speak too much regarding the lowering standard of intellectual leaders in the black community I can say that it seems as though the decline in literacy levels across the board and just a general disinterest in the power of language have much to do with the problems your bringing up.
Wow 🚬 thanks 👍
@3:56 good stuff
The caption is atrocious. Great film but the caption is grossly inappropriate. Please fix it or remove it.
I wish he finished his 2 book
He sounds like jimmy stewart.
1:36
This guy was extremely intelligent!
20:25
He almodt said culture before American unity