Thanks for being both realistic and optimistic. The degree of pessimism on Reddit was aggressive. I hope Caleb doesn’t let all this talk get to him. There are multiple areas that need improvement.
@@shpatibot his 3rd team in as many years is all I needed to know. It's like if I'm ,interviewing someone and they've had 2 jobs in 2 years. I'm not gonna hire that person.
Yes, very insightful I thought. Better contextualization of the team situation than much of the overreaction that has occurred in some media and fan circles .
Bro what good is it to have a Good OLine if he has nobody to throw to and they can’t get open ?? Caleb needed these weapons right now at least to start building chemistry. Then next year all they have to focus on is OLine because the Defense is top 5 already.
@@kavid8120doesn’t seem like the chemistry building worked DJ seemed annoyed af. Wasted that # 9 pick. Should have invested in an o line when that was always a huge issue for the bears! Wasn’t Justin one of the most sacked qbs while on bears? Like this has been a consistent problem for years now. It’s inexcusable to put out that offense when you weren’t starting off like other teams w the first pick (usually worst team in league). They chose to once again put everything on the back of their rookie qb and then do surprise pikachu face when he’s bad
Texans fan. I was impressed by Caleb. Gritty performance. I never felt comfortable when they had the ball. With AR, I knew he would make wildly good plays, but I also know he would follow those up with enough wildly bad plays that it would balance out
3 times he got blindsided by rushers that were never even touched. He's was playing very well until the D figured out our o-line. After that it was red rover, red rover, let the Texans come over. They need to fix this now. I don't understand how they could be this bad. With an O-line like this you can't even run the ball. Let alone throw it.
If you thought he was going to be Mahomes 2.0 out the gate in his first or second game in the NFL you and Bears fans are insane and you don’t know ball. Stop expecting QBs to carry your shit team. Quarterbacks don’t carry teams because they can’t carry teams.
Also, when the Texans were down 0-2 the begging of last year Houston was saying the same old thing here, we go again. You have to give rookies at least one season, not 2 games, lol
He cannot simultaneously get better and get hit/pressured as much as he is. I wasn’t a CW fan, but that kid has balls. Time after time getting up no hesitation. Dont get this young guy injured or concussion prone.
Stroud told him that the Bears took him #1 overall for a reason so they believe in him, put their trust in him and keep doing what got you there....paraphrasing of course.
“Don’t put your head down, don’t let a hard time humble you. Just keep going. It’s not gonna be easy, but you got picked at No. 1 for a reason - because they trust you and they believe in you. I wish him the best. I definitely think that he’ll be better as he goes on.”
Bears defense is making a case to be a top 3 unit in the league. They played well against a top tier quarterback. It's going to be a waste if the offensive line doesn't get better quick.
They never had a chance to win. The Texans had a bunch of penalties, 3 drops on 3rd down, and a fumble at the goal line. The Bears weren't in the game because they were hanging with Houston. They were in the game because Houston played a sloppy game.
@@WWG3802 It wasn't a close game. The Bears had 1 drive that got into the redzone. There is an advanced stat, offensive points added, and offensive points lost. The Texans had 10 offensive points lost, and the Bears had 0. Meaning they didn't get less than their offensive output suggested.
@@H-Town_83That “advanced stat” means nothing. First of all, it doesn’t account for defensive points lost such as the ball that should have been picked by Gordon for 6. The Bears obviously had a chance to win the game as they had the ball with a minute + down by 6. If they scored on that drive they would have won the game. I agree that Houston was the better team throughout the game, but in reality they only scored 1 TD all game. They scored points on their first 3 drives and then were only able to get points on 2 more drives all game. Houston only got into the red zone twice. Once on their 2nd drive of the game and again on the 4th qtr drive that ended with the fumble. Im not sure where that stat is coming up with 10 points lost? Maybe they are counting not attempting a 60+ yard field goal. The Texans offense definitely struggled vs the Chicago defense. Had Chicago’s offense been even average they would have won that game easily.
If we aren’t blaming Caleb then Poles is the one to blame and now it’s not looking like he’s the genius everyone thought he was which is a giant problem.
Poles is too blame for going for flash in the off-season over getting meat up front. He went and got Swift, Allen, Odunze, etc. line was essentially just development guys and cheap aquires. I wanted a Joe Alt equivalent at #9. Poles fleeced the panthers yes. But the line has been ignored since the bears drafted Fields. That can no continue for Caleb.
There’s a lot new for that offense. A lot of people are making mistakes, so they just need to work together more and that will help them get it figured out.
Things I’m optimistic about for Caleb: 1. He is still keeping his eyes down field despite the chaos around him. 2. He took several shots from a collapsing pocket and didn’t bail, meaning he did trust his O-Line to do their jobs several times. 3. The game was within SIX?! A game that felt horrendous as a Bears fan was still an offensive touchdown away from a win against a rising power in the AFC. The frustrations: 1. A bad bears o-line is something I’ve watched my whole life. Thank god the Bears didn’t get Mahomes and drafted Mitch, because the league would have been robbed of the MJ of modern football. 2. Ryan Poles was with the Chiefs during the start of the dynasty and witnessed how over the past 4-5yrs now, the chiefs have had arguably the best interior O-line. I think he’s done a great job as the bears GM, but I think more juice could have been put into the OLine for this year. 2b. Patrick Mahomes has shown that you can do quite a bit with a mobile and contortionist style of throwing with mid level tackles, I would argue that Caleb has a lot of those physical traits (not cerebral). But if plays blow up the middle of the pocket into your face that’s when you run backwards which Mahomes has done and been burned for. TL;DR - bears need to focus on the IOL, tackles can wait.
I wanted them to use the 9th for Bowers. Need to sit Lewis and bring the tight end on the practice squad who can block and is more of a receiver threat
I mean imo theres not just 1 thing going wrong its a combo of things. I havent been impressed by waldrons play calling, the oline gets beat conssistently, cant run the ball, wrs have been hurt and not on the same page, and caleb hasnt been good. U mix it all together and u get an anemic offense. Caleb has talent and is having growing pains but will get better as long as he stays healthy. Running the ball will come if the oline plays better. My main concern is if waldron is the guy and the oline. If those areas dont figure it out theres no fix until the offseason.
Texans were shooting themselves in the foot with penalties but a lot of them were bullshit. Plus shit like Diggs reaching for the 1st down and they called it 4th and shirt when he clearly got the 1st down. The Bears defense is legit
don't forget the drop what would of been touchdown pass from tank dell and the fumble at goal line, so many moments in the game they shot themselves in the foot needs to get cleaned up
So we're the Bears lol. How many false starts did they got? A surprisingly low amount of holding calls though. I mean Houston is clearly the better team.
Only thing that hurts as a bears fan is not taking an OL in this recent draft. If you have keenan and dj already I feel like Odunze was the wrong pick. Could have took either Fashanu or Fuaga and built OL a year ahead and maybe get solid development for Caleb early. I wasn’t mad at the pick don’t get me wrong Odunze can be a great player for a decade for us and I could look like an idiot but an OL was really what was needed especially with bears track record.
Love Rome, I think Poles got him so they only need Allen around 1 season. But we needed offensive line. They have not invested enough into it. Championship teams always have good D and a stout offensive line.
Bears need to build their old line they should’ve did that in the off-season instead of worrying about getting Rome O Wr they already had DJ Moore and Keenan Allen that would’ve been enough offensive line help was definitely needed, but it is what it is Bear 🐻 down for life let’s go Calab
Rochon Johnson hasn’t played. We have no thumper in between the tackles. Swift is not a 3 down back. More so. We need stronger formations until this line can prove they are worthy of spreading it out. At least on throwing down/distances. To predictable with to many passing sets
What most arent talking abt is Waldrons inability to give him easy hot reads. Also if im the Bears I bench Davis , move Jenkins back to his original spot at RG and get Pryor in at LG. Poles get on the phone and start looking to deal a 3rd or one of our 2nd for a top Center.
As a Bears fan I bought in to the new OC, but you have design your play on those quick slants to have someone blocking when there's three defenders waiting. This is a continuing problem from Trubisky to Williams, I just hope they don't screw this kid up too. BTW how bout Justin Fields 2-0!!!!!!
Everyone is mad at Al-Shaair, but this was brewing from early on in the game. Stevenson started shit with Nico Collins and there was a hip-drop tackle that injured Mixon that went unchecked.
Lmao that tackle wasn't on purpose in the sense of trying to injure him. Oh and Stevenson pointed at him? Oh noo. Personally I don't really care, it's not like one of our guys got hurt.. just got a little feisty.
@@cefb8923 hip-drop tackles are now illegal because they do what happened to Mixon. If someone put their finger in your face, I guarantee your actions wouldn’t be so tame.
Sound a lot like what we're were saying for Justin Fields. But it was all his fault. You cant take a Ferrari off reading and be shocked when there are problems later
Bears have 2 more relatively tough games weeks 3 and 4. Put in Tyson Bagent for those 2 weeks. Then put Caleb back in for the panthers game. 5 easy games in a row to let him settle in. No brainer. Can’t let this kid get beat up already.
Things have to get better with Caleb, the OL and the coaching. But they are still 1-1 and just lost by 1 score to a team on the road who could be playing deep into the playoffs. Things take time.
This Bears fan didn’t drink the kool-aid. It’s as if we all forgot Caleb is a rookie. This season was and always will be about his progression. Any Bears fan that was expecting greatness off the bat needs their head checked. Peyton Manning still holds the rookie record for most INTs. Patience.
But the QB threw 2 INTs., missed open Receivers, and took a sack that pushed them out of FG range. If Bear fans can blame Justin Fields for loosing to the Broncos last year after going 28/35, for 335 yards and 4 TDs, then you can blame Caleb Williams for this lose.
I'm not ready to annoint Houston, we looked bad against the Titans too. And we looked bad at the start of 2023. And we looked bad at the start of 2022. Weird trend? Who could we blame for this?
@TheTacoKing2 I'm not a Washington fan...just a person with 2 eyes. Daniel's is 40-53 for 410 yards through 2 games, no picks and no passing TDs. Twice as many rushing yards as Caleb...Caleb is 37-66 for 267 with 2 picks and no TDs through 2 games. Everyone would say the Bears have better weapons and a better defense. Not my fault you're blind
@@wesleystewart1193 Yes. Rome Odunze is an eye-popping talent that would go as the first receiver off the board in many drafts. Jefferson was the 5th receiver taken. JSN was NOT better than Rome, as he wasn't taken until the 20th pick. Don't speak on things you know nothing about.
Bears don’t have the talent at oline to run wide zone runs. Need to do more power style running, counters, and draws. Having a rookie attempt almost 40 passes is a recipe for disaster
Houston's run D is for real. Look at the numbers against the Colts. JT got bottled up. If we play any team without a mobile qb, it would be lights out good.
Didnt sam make 70mil out the gate??? 🤔 Sam Bradford with out the injuries would've been a godsend. Dude has balls the size of jupiter taking hits that i even felt through the tv tbh.
What’s the leash the other players are going to give tho? You had your star WR banging the table for Fields to stay, and that same player is already showing signs of frustration.
If you cant provide an offensive line thats halfway decent you will never know if your guy is THE GUY or not. There are no great QBs who played around a trash OLine. Rodgers and Brady had some of the best lines in the league during their primes. Line matters
CWs got sacked a lot in college. But unlike Justin Fields he still seemed to have some pocket awareness of oncoming pass rushers. Which to me an NFL QB simply has to have for many reasons. But so far in his brief NFL stint I’m not seeing that awareness. There’s no way when that Texans monster came in from the right side that a Mahomes or CJ Stroud wouldn’t have seen that guy and exited stage left. If Caleb starts showing some signs there I think he’ll be ok. But if this is who he is then he’s in big trouble.
Bears are building from the bottom up this is the 2nd year of accumulation for the regime and 1st year qb in new offense for everyone. The bears have some weapons, have a young cheap talent at qb and a top 5 defense. Let this play out we arent ready to win it all but i still think they are 6-3 or 7-2 by time they get to the nfc north teams
Not to worried about this team there GOING to win 5 out of there next 6 they got the colts rams panthers jags commanders and cardinals they’ll lose 1 of those games but they could very well win all of them to
Saying the bears Had to choose is bs. They didn't need to draft Rome with that pick for their 3rd wide out. Trade back get a first for next year and still can draft best center in the draft later in that round. Ez. They're just poorly managed
This sucks as a Bears fan, I believe we’re going to destroy Caleb, just like our other QBs in the past, but after all the problems we had, all we needed was for Rome to catch the ball in the in-zone we would have won…..
I can’t stand these new bandwagon Texans fans. “Oh it wasn’t that close of a game we played terrible” brother you lit up our defense in the first half and we adjusted. We had a below average offense and still the game was close. “Oh well we had a lot of penalties and drops or fumbles whatever” okay the bears had almost as many penalties. Give credit to the other team sometimes instead of just saying “it wasn’t that close we didn’t play good” maybe the bears defense just shut you down in the second half.
Hou as everyone is putting in afc championship made the redzone once against the bears and fumbled it. Let the young kid and offense grow it cant be this bad all year
Carolina has the consensus worst owner in the league. They're not going anywhere until Tepper sells or decides to hire an elite GM and then step completely out of the way.
How can you not blame the o line when the bears have had a non existent run game for the games in a row now. If your top back has 18 yards in a game the rest of your game is going to suffer. The o line couldn’t move anyone creat any lines or stop hardly any pressures
Of course we put them in the playoffs. They lost by 6 against the Texans 13-19. If Chicago had a top 15 O-line they would have won the game. Plus a dropped TD pass and a dropped INT. That game came down to the last drive. A better line means more time to throw and better running from the backs. The Bears will not be a playoff team if their o-line doesn't block.
Ryan poles knew the line was the problem and rarely did anything to fix it no legit C and decided to roll with davis. Poles drafted wright and figured thats it for the oline smh and he’s supposed to be a former offensive lineman
So the qb that dominated his rookie season that was drafted 2nd is not generational but Zack Wilson 2.0 bka Caleb Williams needs time to figure it out 🤔. Can we at least agree that he isn’t “generational”?
lol, if the Bears don’t ruin Caleb. What’s the track record look like on developing QBs for the Chicago Bears? We’re gonna ruin him and it’ll just be another season for the Windy City. Gotta prove me otherwise now. Fields got the benefit of the doubt, but in Poles 3rd year here, he should’ve known how to fix the problems.
Caleb got beat up??? Throwing deandre swift right into coverage getting reggie bush level destroyed… kmet got destroyed because he threw him right intk the linebackers. Dj is fed up and seen on tv saying to tyson “dawg i need you”. Locker room has already turned on caleb.
The Bears don’t have a good coach. I couldn’t believe they didn’t fire him after last season. If they don’t get a good young coach the Bears will stay the Bears of old and Caleb Williams will be a bust.
He shit 💩 the bed. I not sure I saw battle. I saw defeat. I saw desperation and zero clarity. Caleb couldn’t beat Notre Dame. Came in with an improved offensive line and elite weapons. Justin did more with less. DJ Moore is ready to get traded. The line has no confidence in a generational nail tech. The receivers are looking at Caleb, and not finding a leader. They see a cheer leader, with great nails. They didn’t like how serious Justin was. Now we are a laughing stock.
Fields, Moore, MHJ, and picks to fix the oline. IN POLES WE TRUST 😂😂😂😂😂. Moore already looks like he's done, he said last year these qbs are not better than Fields.
Couple of problems we have the OL sucks & the play calls & why is Chris Morgan still with the Bears (head of the OL) & the Bears should have fired him, he’s been with the Bears the last 3yrs, they fired everyone else minus Chris Brown, he sucks as we all can tell….
Im sorry but fines are slap in the wrists. Unless its major amount of money. Dude should be suspended for one game. Should have been tossed for in the game he was in. Then to go play the victim in the Media. Like WTF. Not to mention he stood up and punched the one guy just standing there doing nothing, But sure punching the back up RB really showed that Dog in him.
Super talented but a horrible leader. That’s the real issue. He missed even when everything went as planned. He will get better but it’s a lesson in humility.
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Thanks for being both realistic and optimistic. The degree of pessimism on Reddit was aggressive. I hope Caleb doesn’t let all this talk get to him. There are multiple areas that need improvement.
Reddit lol. There’s the problem.
Bears lead rusher Swift had 14 carries for 18 yards. That makes everything sooo much harder on Caleb.
Swft sucks. He was a terrible signing
@@beargrills1290 we kinda saw it with herbert running for more yards on 2 attempts week 1
@@beargrills1290he's getting blasted behind the line of scrimmage every single run
@@beargrills1290 when you're constantly running out of shotgun, it ain't easy
@@shpatibot his 3rd team in as many years is all I needed to know. It's like if I'm ,interviewing someone and they've had 2 jobs in 2 years. I'm not gonna hire that person.
As a bears fan I appreciate this take Chris!!!
Yes, very insightful I thought. Better contextualization of the team situation than much of the overreaction that has occurred in some media and fan circles .
Another year Bears didn't invest in line. They bought cheap avg lineman to replace their old cheap avg lineman. Center is brutal again year after year
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Lucas Patrick highest rated oline for the Saints 😂
Bro what good is it to have a Good OLine if he has nobody to throw to and they can’t get open ?? Caleb needed these weapons right now at least to start building chemistry. Then next year all they have to focus on is OLine because the Defense is top 5 already.
@@kavid8120doesn’t seem like the chemistry building worked DJ seemed annoyed af. Wasted that # 9 pick. Should have invested in an o line when that was always a huge issue for the bears! Wasn’t Justin one of the most sacked qbs while on bears? Like this has been a consistent problem for years now. It’s inexcusable to put out that offense when you weren’t starting off like other teams w the first pick (usually worst team in league). They chose to once again put everything on the back of their rookie qb and then do surprise pikachu face when he’s bad
TBH there wasn’t much on the market for Oline this year.
Texans fan. I was impressed by Caleb. Gritty performance. I never felt comfortable when they had the ball. With AR, I knew he would make wildly good plays, but I also know he would follow those up with enough wildly bad plays that it would balance out
3 times he got blindsided by rushers that were never even touched.
He's was playing very well until the D figured out our o-line.
After that it was red rover, red rover, let the Texans come over.
They need to fix this now.
I don't understand how they could be this bad.
With an O-line like this you can't even run the ball.
Let alone throw it.
Don't think there's anything to figure out, they can't handle the pressure. They could handle 5 on 4, how are they going to handle blitzes?
Man this show makes so much sense thanks guys you are what all the media should be about
I just hate that we as bear fans have go through this 🤦🏽♂️💯
If you thought he was going to be Mahomes 2.0 out the gate in his first or second game in the NFL you and Bears fans are insane and you don’t know ball. Stop expecting QBs to carry your shit team. Quarterbacks don’t carry teams because they can’t carry teams.
Was surprised at the amount of bears fans at the game.
Not your fault...but yall did JF dirty. Its a bit fitting.
@@Sivart713 don't be surprised it's an international brand
@@scattau41 lol not really
Id'ing at the college bar line😂😂😭
Also, when the Texans were down 0-2 the begging of last year Houston was saying the same old thing here, we go again. You have to give rookies at least one season, not 2 games, lol
The difference between last year Texans and this year’s Bears is that CJ Stroud had 600 yards thru 2 games it was easy to see the upside
Lost by 6 to arguably a top 5 team in the NFL, on the road, in the 2nd week of the season, w/out 1 of your best WR. They'll get it together. 🐻⬇️
He cannot simultaneously get better and get hit/pressured as much as he is. I wasn’t a CW fan, but that kid has balls. Time after time getting up no hesitation. Dont get this young guy injured or concussion prone.
As a Bears fan, I appreciate this take so much 🐻⬇️
Stroud told him that the Bears took him #1 overall for a reason so they believe in him, put their trust in him and keep doing what got you there....paraphrasing of course.
No he told him retire early before head injury because bears never develop rookie QB .
“Don’t put your head down, don’t let a hard time humble you. Just keep going. It’s not gonna be easy, but you got picked at No. 1 for a reason - because they trust you and they believe in you. I wish him the best. I definitely think that he’ll be better as he goes on.”
Bears defense is making a case to be a top 3 unit in the league. They played well against a top tier quarterback. It's going to be a waste if the offensive line doesn't get better quick.
Crazy thing is they only lost by 6 and had a chance to win the game .
They never had a chance to win. The Texans had a bunch of penalties, 3 drops on 3rd down, and a fumble at the goal line. The Bears weren't in the game because they were hanging with Houston. They were in the game because Houston played a sloppy game.
@H-Town_83 We can say the same the thing about the Bears playing sloppy right, if Gordon pick that ball off it was a pick 6 and game over
@@WWG3802 It wasn't a close game. The Bears had 1 drive that got into the redzone. There is an advanced stat, offensive points added, and offensive points lost. The Texans had 10 offensive points lost, and the Bears had 0. Meaning they didn't get less than their offensive output suggested.
@H-Town_83 So Herbert scored a touchdown but it didn't count?
@@H-Town_83That “advanced stat” means nothing. First of all, it doesn’t account for defensive points lost such as the ball that should have been picked by Gordon for 6. The Bears obviously had a chance to win the game as they had the ball with a minute + down by 6. If they scored on that drive they would have won the game. I agree that Houston was the better team throughout the game, but in reality they only scored 1 TD all game. They scored points on their first 3 drives and then were only able to get points on 2 more drives all game. Houston only got into the red zone twice. Once on their 2nd drive of the game and again on the 4th qtr drive that ended with the fumble. Im not sure where that stat is coming up with 10 points lost? Maybe they are counting not attempting a 60+ yard field goal. The Texans offense definitely struggled vs the Chicago defense. Had Chicago’s offense been even average they would have won that game easily.
If we aren’t blaming Caleb then Poles is the one to blame and now it’s not looking like he’s the genius everyone thought he was which is a giant problem.
Poles is too blame for going for flash in the off-season over getting meat up front. He went and got Swift, Allen, Odunze, etc. line was essentially just development guys and cheap aquires. I wanted a Joe Alt equivalent at #9. Poles fleeced the panthers yes. But the line has been ignored since the bears drafted Fields. That can no continue for Caleb.
There’s a lot new for that offense. A lot of people are making mistakes, so they just need to work together more and that will help them get it figured out.
Things I’m optimistic about for Caleb:
1. He is still keeping his eyes down field despite the chaos around him.
2. He took several shots from a collapsing pocket and didn’t bail, meaning he did trust his O-Line to do their jobs several times.
3. The game was within SIX?! A game that felt horrendous as a Bears fan was still an offensive touchdown away from a win against a rising power in the AFC.
The frustrations:
1. A bad bears o-line is something I’ve watched my whole life. Thank god the Bears didn’t get Mahomes and drafted Mitch, because the league would have been robbed of the MJ of modern football.
2. Ryan Poles was with the Chiefs during the start of the dynasty and witnessed how over the past 4-5yrs now, the chiefs have had arguably the best interior O-line. I think he’s done a great job as the bears GM, but I think more juice could have been put into the OLine for this year.
2b. Patrick Mahomes has shown that you can do quite a bit with a mobile and contortionist style of throwing with mid level tackles, I would argue that Caleb has a lot of those physical traits (not cerebral). But if plays blow up the middle of the pocket into your face that’s when you run backwards which Mahomes has done and been burned for.
TL;DR - bears need to focus on the IOL, tackles can wait.
The Texans' defense is ferocious. They are fast, they hit hard like it's 2002, and they swarm tackle.
I wanted them to trade the 9 pick away for line help even back before the draft lol.
I wanted them to use the 9th for Bowers. Need to sit Lewis and bring the tight end on the practice squad who can block and is more of a receiver threat
I mean imo theres not just 1 thing going wrong its a combo of things. I havent been impressed by waldrons play calling, the oline gets beat conssistently, cant run the ball, wrs have been hurt and not on the same page, and caleb hasnt been good. U mix it all together and u get an anemic offense. Caleb has talent and is having growing pains but will get better as long as he stays healthy. Running the ball will come if the oline plays better. My main concern is if waldron is the guy and the oline. If those areas dont figure it out theres no fix until the offseason.
Thank you, it's week 2
Texans were shooting themselves in the foot with penalties but a lot of them were bullshit. Plus shit like Diggs reaching for the 1st down and they called it 4th and shirt when he clearly got the 1st down. The Bears defense is legit
don't forget the drop what would of been touchdown pass from tank dell and the fumble at goal line, so many moments in the game they shot themselves in the foot needs to get cleaned up
So we're the Bears lol. How many false starts did they got? A surprisingly low amount of holding calls though. I mean Houston is clearly the better team.
Only thing that hurts as a bears fan is not taking an OL in this recent draft. If you have keenan and dj already I feel like Odunze was the wrong pick. Could have took either Fashanu or Fuaga and built OL a year ahead and maybe get solid development for Caleb early. I wasn’t mad at the pick don’t get me wrong Odunze can be a great player for a decade for us and I could look like an idiot but an OL was really what was needed especially with bears track record.
Love Rome, I think Poles got him so they only need Allen around 1 season. But we needed offensive line. They have not invested enough into it. Championship teams always have good D and a stout offensive line.
Bears need to build their old line they should’ve did that in the off-season instead of worrying about getting Rome O Wr they already had DJ Moore and Keenan Allen that would’ve been enough offensive line help was definitely needed, but it is what it is Bear 🐻 down for life let’s go Calab
Houston's D is going to be the team you bench your RB3s in FF for soon enough. We put the clamps on JT the week before.
Rochon Johnson hasn’t played. We have no thumper in between the tackles. Swift is not a 3 down back. More so. We need stronger formations until this line can prove they are worthy of spreading it out. At least on throwing down/distances. To predictable with to many passing sets
Texans pass rush with hunter and Anderson is elite. Don’t knock on Caleb too much guys .
The o line cant block for the run game either though. Swift had 14 carries for 18 yards.
I just hope that the coaches learn from this game and fix. CW does have the talent to be good.
2010’s comparison is perfect
What most arent talking abt is Waldrons inability to give him easy hot reads. Also if im the Bears I bench Davis , move Jenkins back to his original spot at RG and get Pryor in at LG. Poles get on the phone and start looking to deal a 3rd or one of our 2nd for a top Center.
No one is trading their center. You have to find and develop those guys or wait until free agency
@jarred110 not now but before trade deadline where teams aren't going anywhere will def take a 3rd or 1 of the 2 2nds Poles has to deal. They def will
As a Bears fan I bought in to the new OC, but you have design your play on those quick slants to have someone blocking when there's three defenders waiting. This is a continuing problem from Trubisky to Williams, I just hope they don't screw this kid up too.
BTW how bout Justin Fields 2-0!!!!!!
Everyone is mad at Al-Shaair, but this was brewing from early on in the game.
Stevenson started shit with Nico Collins and there was a hip-drop tackle that injured Mixon that went unchecked.
Lmao that tackle wasn't on purpose in the sense of trying to injure him. Oh and Stevenson pointed at him? Oh noo. Personally I don't really care, it's not like one of our guys got hurt.. just got a little feisty.
@@cefb8923 hip-drop tackles are now illegal because they do what happened to Mixon.
If someone put their finger in your face, I guarantee your actions wouldn’t be so tame.
Sound a lot like what we're were saying for Justin Fields. But it was all his fault. You cant take a Ferrari off reading and be shocked when there are problems later
Bears have 2 more relatively tough games weeks 3 and 4. Put in Tyson Bagent for those 2 weeks. Then put Caleb back in for the panthers game. 5 easy games in a row to let him settle in. No brainer. Can’t let this kid get beat up already.
Things have to get better with Caleb, the OL and the coaching. But they are still 1-1 and just lost by 1 score to a team on the road who could be playing deep into the playoffs. Things take time.
Teams make adjustments. The Bears offensive coordinator’s have too also readjust. They didn’t , you see the results of an unprepared coaching staff
This Bears fan didn’t drink the kool-aid. It’s as if we all forgot Caleb is a rookie. This season was and always will be about his progression. Any Bears fan that was expecting greatness off the bat needs their head checked. Peyton Manning still holds the rookie record for most INTs. Patience.
Cj was 0-2 and was sacked 11 times last year. So as a Bears fan, im still excited to be 9-8.
testament to the defense
But the QB threw 2 INTs., missed open Receivers, and took a sack that pushed them out of FG range.
If Bear fans can blame Justin Fields for loosing to the Broncos last year after going 28/35, for 335 yards and 4 TDs, then you can blame Caleb Williams for this lose.
I'm not ready to annoint Houston, we looked bad against the Titans too. And we looked bad at the start of 2023. And we looked bad at the start of 2022. Weird trend? Who could we blame for this?
We're 1-1 lost against a superbowl contender. They had a horrible game and still lost by 6.
They'll be fine
It looked like Justin vs Cleveland in 2021. Poles is a 🤡
2021
oh no he is now 1-1 and lost a close game to VERY good team. What the hale is wrong with people? From a Texan fan.
Most bears fans have that doomer mindset, probably from all the whiney suburban baby’s who always got their way in life 😂
@@dukeofhaggard9450We are not all like that.
Yes he did
Jayden Daniel's doing more with less tho...
Jayden is a running back
@@WindyCity888 23 for 29....ok buddy...go paint your boyfriends nails
@@Tony525_ imagine being proud you beat the Giants with 7 field goals lmao
He hasn’t played a REAL D don’t be such a strange northern troll
@TheTacoKing2 I'm not a Washington fan...just a person with 2 eyes. Daniel's is 40-53 for 410 yards through 2 games, no picks and no passing TDs. Twice as many rushing yards as Caleb...Caleb is 37-66 for 267 with 2 picks and no TDs through 2 games. Everyone would say the Bears have better weapons and a better defense. Not my fault you're blind
A lot of fans were cheering for the odunze pick but I wanted a lineman. Center and right guard are turnstiles
You don't just pass up on Rome Odunze lmao
@@hockeyfan1799 WR depth is huge in today’s NFL good O line play is hard to come by.
@@wesleystewart1193 Rome is the first receiver taken in most drafts so
@@hockeyfan1799 no. Jefferson jamaar JSN and Marvin Harrison jr were all better coming out of college so idk what you mean by most he’d be wr1
@@wesleystewart1193 Yes. Rome Odunze is an eye-popping talent that would go as the first receiver off the board in many drafts. Jefferson was the 5th receiver taken. JSN was NOT better than Rome, as he wasn't taken until the 20th pick. Don't speak on things you know nothing about.
Bears don’t have the talent at oline to run wide zone runs. Need to do more power style running, counters, and draws. Having a rookie attempt almost 40 passes is a recipe for disaster
In regards to the run game. I would rather see Herbert in the mix, and throw in so RB screens plays for swift instead. Just something different.
Houston's run D is for real. Look at the numbers against the Colts. JT got bottled up. If we play any team without a mobile qb, it would be lights out good.
Didnt sam make 70mil out the gate??? 🤔 Sam Bradford with out the injuries would've been a godsend. Dude has balls the size of jupiter taking hits that i even felt through the tv tbh.
What’s the leash the other players are going to give tho? You had your star WR banging the table for Fields to stay, and that same player is already showing signs of frustration.
Fields is a FA after the season! Still time to make this right. 😂
If you cant provide an offensive line thats halfway decent you will never know if your guy is THE GUY or not. There are no great QBs who played around a trash OLine. Rodgers and Brady had some of the best lines in the league during their primes. Line matters
The booth should call down when someone starts a riot and not even a flag was thrown. That was a joke
CWs got sacked a lot in college. But unlike Justin Fields he still seemed to have some pocket awareness of oncoming pass rushers. Which to me an NFL QB simply has to have for many reasons. But so far in his brief NFL stint I’m not seeing that awareness. There’s no way when that Texans monster came in from the right side that a Mahomes or CJ Stroud wouldn’t have seen that guy and exited stage left. If Caleb starts showing some signs there I think he’ll be ok. But if this is who he is then he’s in big trouble.
Bears are building from the bottom up this is the 2nd year of accumulation for the regime and 1st year qb in new offense for everyone. The bears have some weapons, have a young cheap talent at qb and a top 5 defense. Let this play out we arent ready to win it all but i still think they are 6-3 or 7-2 by time they get to the nfc north teams
Give him some time translates to get him a better o-line
Not to worried about this team there GOING to win 5 out of there next 6 they got the colts rams panthers jags commanders and cardinals they’ll lose 1 of those games but they could very well win all of them to
Give him some time on the bench and put Bagent in so we can win now
Saying the bears Had to choose is bs. They didn't need to draft Rome with that pick for their 3rd wide out. Trade back get a first for next year and still can draft best center in the draft later in that round. Ez. They're just poorly managed
This sucks as a Bears fan, I believe we’re going to destroy Caleb, just like our other QBs in the past, but after all the problems we had, all we needed was for Rome to catch the ball in the in-zone we would have won…..
The defense is the only reason the Bears hung in that game. The O-line and Waldron are a joke, and should not be let off the hook.
just admit you were wrong that it was going to be easier for him from what you saw in preseason
I can’t stand these new bandwagon Texans fans. “Oh it wasn’t that close of a game we played terrible” brother you lit up our defense in the first half and we adjusted. We had a below average offense and still the game was close. “Oh well we had a lot of penalties and drops or fumbles whatever” okay the bears had almost as many penalties. Give credit to the other team sometimes instead of just saying “it wasn’t that close we didn’t play good” maybe the bears defense just shut you down in the second half.
The center Coleman needs to be FIRED!
The Bears won’t run the ball against Indy. The coaching staff doesn’t get it.
Both answers are unfortunately 100% correct
He looked just like Justin Fields out there .
At least Justin can run fast lol. And Justin has a real nice deep ball. Caleb was off by 15-30 yards on deep throws it was wild
Caleb was hyped as generational and y’all stay making excuses for him but yet Fields got all the blame
Hou as everyone is putting in afc championship made the redzone once against the bears and fumbled it. Let the young kid and offense grow it cant be this bad all year
The Texans got away with blatant holding on key plays 8 times and one was a hands to the face and holding in front of the refs
Carolina has the consensus worst owner in the league. They're not going anywhere until Tepper sells or decides to hire an elite GM and then step completely out of the way.
That's Courtland Innegan. Dre beat the F out of him that afternoon.
How can you not blame the o line when the bears have had a non existent run game for the games in a row now. If your top back has 18 yards in a game the rest of your game is going to suffer. The o line couldn’t move anyone creat any lines or stop hardly any pressures
Of course we put them in the playoffs. They lost by 6 against the Texans 13-19. If Chicago had a top 15 O-line they would have won the game. Plus a dropped TD pass and a dropped INT. That game came down to the last drive. A better line means more time to throw and better running from the backs. The Bears will not be a playoff team if their o-line doesn't block.
Patrick mahomes also threw 2 interceptions on Sunday as well so let’s not overreact people it’s game 2.
Ryan poles knew the line was the problem and rarely did anything to fix it no legit C and decided to roll with davis. Poles drafted wright and figured thats it for the oline smh and he’s supposed to be a former offensive lineman
So the qb that dominated his rookie season that was drafted 2nd is not generational but Zack Wilson 2.0 bka Caleb Williams needs time to figure it out 🤔. Can we at least agree that he isn’t “generational”?
Yall Bears fans? Wtf, haha. Didn’t say a word about the Texans at all really.
Sam “Glass knees” Bradford. Ah yes, he was quite good tho lol
lol, if the Bears don’t ruin Caleb. What’s the track record look like on developing QBs for the Chicago Bears? We’re gonna ruin him and it’ll just be another season for the Windy City. Gotta prove me otherwise now. Fields got the benefit of the doubt, but in Poles 3rd year here, he should’ve known how to fix the problems.
The offensive line and play calling was a dumpster fire! Caleb will make mistakes because he is running for his life!
he joined a 7 win team, that has a better offense all across the board.
Bears fans want overnight success because of all the b.s seasons and teams they presented to their fans
Nope. He gets no time. Justin had garbage as a team around him. This guy has a much better team. If he fails it's him.
Caleb got beat up??? Throwing deandre swift right into coverage getting reggie bush level destroyed… kmet got destroyed because he threw him right intk the linebackers. Dj is fed up and seen on tv saying to tyson “dawg i need you”. Locker room has already turned on caleb.
The Bears don’t have a good coach. I couldn’t believe they didn’t fire him after last season. If they don’t get a good young coach the Bears will stay the Bears of old and Caleb Williams will be a bust.
Houston failed to put up 20 points. I don't see the greatness
He shit 💩 the bed. I not sure I saw battle. I saw defeat. I saw desperation and zero clarity. Caleb couldn’t beat Notre Dame. Came in with an improved offensive line and elite weapons. Justin did more with less. DJ Moore is ready to get traded. The line has no confidence in a generational nail tech. The receivers are looking at Caleb, and not finding a leader. They see a cheer leader, with great nails. They didn’t like how serious Justin was. Now we are a laughing stock.
Fields, Moore, MHJ, and picks to fix the oline. IN POLES WE TRUST 😂😂😂😂😂. Moore already looks like he's done, he said last year these qbs are not better than Fields.
Bust
Couple of problems we have the OL sucks & the play calls & why is Chris Morgan still with the Bears (head of the OL) & the Bears should have fired him, he’s been with the Bears the last 3yrs, they fired everyone else minus Chris Brown, he sucks as we all can tell….
Play calling is the problem. The OC and HC are a.couple of schmucks.
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Im sorry but fines are slap in the wrists. Unless its major amount of money. Dude should be suspended for one game. Should have been tossed for in the game he was in. Then to go play the victim in the Media. Like WTF. Not to mention he stood up and punched the one guy just standing there doing nothing, But sure punching the back up RB really showed that Dog in him.
Super talented but a horrible leader. That’s the real issue. He missed even when everything went as planned. He will get better but it’s a lesson in humility.
build your line first.. its not that hard.
You forgot to mention calib is gay