Still using this CPU today. At high resolutions 3.5k (5120x1440) its performance is still very impressive. When I bought into x79 in 2011 I couldn’t imagine it would still be a relevant performer 13 years after launch. From 480’s in SLI, 680, 980 and now 2080. Absolutely incredible.
@@one_step_sideways Games in general have migrated to 6/8 core support due to consoles. sub 200 dollar CPU's now have 6+ cores. Sandy/Ivy being able to overclock 50+% over factory turbo has whats kept them relevant. Even though the platform is Obsolete.
I remember Intel's HEDTs were top of the line back in 2015, while running a 4570 and wishing I could buy a HEDT board. Now my 5700u laptop can pretty much beat or at least match a 5960X in raw perf. It's amazingly fast how technology advances.
Advancements have gotten much slower over time. If you look at 1998 to 2005 which is as long period as 2015 to 2022: We went from Intel Pentium II 350MHz to AMD Athlon 64 X2 with 2.5GHz clocks
@@kimnice true we're starting to hit a wall but also the need isn't there as it was before even older CPUs from 2015 are still viable but you can't say the same for even a core 2 Duo ten years after its release in 2014 despite it being a legendary CPU for its time
@@kimnice Not just speed but also instruction sets and software compatibility. At this point the personal computing industry is quite mature, so many of the changes are incremental rather than massive day-and-night changes. It's not like the early days in the 80's where new models of computers were completely incompatible.
Nice! Convinced me to keep my 5820K a little while longer, though the 5600X is really tempting right now (lots of gaming performance, sips power, easy to cool, easy to tune, cheap mobos and ram).
@@josephdias5859 Not that cheap in Europe sadly, and these will be mostly a sidegrade for me. I am impatiently waiting for the new X3D chips from AMD, hopefully they're good. Otherwise will be sticking to my current PC for the next year probably.
The 5820K is still a beast i still have mine paired with a 3080 ti it slays games on high/ ultra settings. Although it does bottleneck the gpu a bit once you go 4k and above.
Yeah. I’m okay for RAM. CEX don’t value DDR3 very highly- even the good stuff- so I have two 8GB 2400 and two 2133 kits I picked up for about £24 each a while back. Motherboards are a bit of a problem. My Z77 that was suspiciously cheap turned out to have a dodgy top PCIE slot- it doesn’t work at all with Sandys and only works in x4 with Ivys. I’m on the hunt for a good Z97 next!
@@IcebergTech I have an EVGA Z97 Classified mobo sitting in the closet. It's onboard audio is dead, but I think everything else works on it. Do you want it? Just pay shipping, I'm trying to get rid of some old hardware I have laying around.
Considering how cache plays an important role in modern games, wondering how a Xeon 1680v2 would perform, it has 25mb of Cache with 8 Cores (unlocked). Might be a good chip to test if suits ur budget. Great review! Keep up the hard work!
I have a 1680 v2; when overclocked it can be competitive with a Ryzen 2700. It is no longer my main computer but I could definitely more than get by with it if I had to
i doubt it'd be any good. ipc was not the greatest of it and the clocks were low. i think Linus done a review on that and a few others to compare for gaming vs current midtier cpu's. bad voodoo. xeons do not work for gaming. well, might work for stuff like civ games... but not much further.
Great review on i7 4930K, I personally used the Sandy 2600K and Ivy 3770 desktop systems for gaming back then. The DDR3 ram and smaller cache is holding these puppies back. Thanks for comparison!
I would genuinely love to see you compare/add in 1st/2nd gen ryzen with these x79 boards! I'm in the UK and have just upgraded from my Ryzen 5 1600x to the Ryzen 5 5500, so I'd be happy to loan you my old chip if you fancy it, the old beast overclocks to 4.1ghz on all cores at 1.36v
Nice to see Ivy Bridge-E lives on, I'm rocking a xeon 1650 V2 at 4.5ghz (more or less the same as yours but 3mb less cache) and it's a solid system that rocks 48gb and was extremely cheap to put together.
@@livingthedream915 I have the same exact combo, 1650v2 at 4.3GHz and a 1660 Super with 32GB RAM. No bottleneck here and still happy with it. Also, 1650v2 and 4930k are completely the same except the name.
@@baxter009 Exactly! I've tried to explain to peeps that these chips don't bottleneck GPUs up to a certain point and they just don't want to acknowledge that a 2013 server CPU OCed can go toe to toe with a ryzen 5 2600, I had one guy try to tell me that a i7 6700 was faster LMAO
I was actually using this cpu for close to 8 years and it paired relatively well with some of the modern cards i threw at it over the years with the last one being the 1080 ti , very overkill for it's time and is actually one of the reasons why it held up so well
ahaha! me too, me too! same video card too ! 1080 Ti. I recently put in a 4090 though -- that is going in my new Raptor Lake build soon. it's bottlenecking this monster gpu. never streched this cpu like it does today. time to upgrade has come
Nice seeing the 5600X in there, pretty much showing a doubling of IPC when it comes to gaming over the last 10 years. The CPU's launched at a similar price, although the motherboards for the 4930k were more expensive, though well featured compared to budget Ryzen boards.
In late 2013 I built 3930K with 32Gb ram & a GTX Titan, I still have the motherboard and ram still running, but i did change the cpu a few years back with a E5-2667v2 and as my secondary Pc it's been such a solid workhorse, one that has Windows compatability from XP right up to 10 ( with compatable gfx card of course).
Had fun with my x79 build but it's time to get it back to storage. Will test it probably again in a few years. Holding to one is now like a fine wine. At least working mobos gonna get only more expensive. But also x99 build is on the way so gonna have alot of testing ahead.😃
My HP z440 with Xeon E-5 2697V3 (14 Core 28 Thread), 64GB RAM, and RTX 2070 performs on par with some newer systems, and I paid less than $400 for the entire thing, including video card. Xeons from the V3/V4 generation are dirt cheap right now. A 12C/24T Xeon 2650V4 is $15 right now, and its even 14nm which isn't horrible
I have a PC I built 10 years ago running this chip on an asus x79 sabertooth board with an overclock to 4.6GHz and cooled with the corsair H100i the computer is on 24/7 and the system is still going. These chips were made pretty well, I even ran this chip with a clock up to 4.9GHz and it was stable enough to give me the number 8 postion in the world for single graphics card rankings for 3DMark. Time flies doesnt it? Its hard to believe its been 10 years. That is the longest I have ever owned a single computer.
My 3960X still rocks it, the 4930k hums that tune good and the 5920k is still a gaming machine. You gotta do 4 sticks on the quad channel is all. I upgraded from the 4930K to a 3600X in 2020 and it wasn't much of a bump in most cases. I won't be upgrading CPU/GPU until the next GPU generation is out. Just not worth the cost.
Sadly my X79 doesn’t like Xeons! It officially doesn’t support V2s, and didn’t recognise either of the V1s I’ve tried so far. X99 is on the cards when I have some money! I already missed a couple of great deals on Asus boards ☹️
:( Few cents about X99 : "OC Socket" only works for Haswell-E, it doesn't do much (if anything) for Broadwell-E. Also, don't forget to OC UnCore on X99 and don't expect 3GHz+ DDR4 clocks as "given" (XMP won't help you there). X99 is like Ryzen 1-st gen in that regard.
@@CompatibilityMadness My 6950X can handle 32GB memory @ 3200 (Samsung B-die) with low timings, but it took quite a bit fiddling with in the BIOS -- LGA2011 boards are a bitchy platform to overclock to begin with. The OC socket is indeed useless for Broadwell, since the CPU package wiring is altered compared to Haswell. My 6950X could boot and do some benchmarks with LLC @ 3800MHz, but it is unstable even with copious uncore voltage, so I leave it at 3600. The cores can go up to 4400MHz with 1.28v, but the VRM is getting too hot. The general problem with the X99 platform is the pricing for brand name mobos (as usual), but the CPUs are relatively cheap.
From 2014 to 2019 i was rocking an i5 4590. It was great, if paired with a decent GPU. Sadly, i have to get rid of that system because it only collects dust. Great video! (Still loving the music and editing :D )
think mines a 4690k. got a 1060 and play most games at 1080p well enough. definitely time for an upgrade but I'm being patient. prices are going to go down in 2023 so..
I just found your channel and I am currently on the x79 with a 4960x. This was my first build and I had no idea what I was doing. I started life on this platform with the 3820 (I did learn how to BLK overclock which was cool). I stayed on it until Ryzen came out and purchased the 4960x on ebay for around $120. It was a drop in and had about the same benchmarks as the Ryzen 1600x. I only just on this last Prime day purchased the parts for a new pc. A 12700kf system minus the graphics card for under $700 I couldn't stop myself. It is a great system and will still live in the house doing something not sure what. But I guess what started out as a huge mistake has turned into a great purchase as the longevity cannot be argued. Lucky I guess
I JUST replaced my i7 4770k with a ryzen 7 5800x. it was honestly holding out pretty well but with newer games I was having a lot of problems. Overall it will get the job done for basic games like world of warcraft, cs go, gta 5 but if you want to play newer titles and do video editing or streaming i would not recommend buying an older generation cpu
You definetly should get a chinese x79 board. I have a 4820k in one at it runs at 4.4GHz. The only thing missing is votage control (but it has nvme), so I can't go any higher. I'm thinking about getting a 4930k because they're so cheap, but I don't know how high it could go with no extra voltage.
I actually own this cpu and have been watching since the Covid situation. Was really a nice watch. I have it with combined with a 6700xt and it reaches up to 160 fps in MW2 Multiplayer at times. Thanks for the great work. See you in the next one. :)
Would be interesting to see how an e5-2667v2, E5- 2690v2, and E5-2697v2 stack up as they are all around $30. When you test them you can unlock power limits and overclock fsb to 110mhz pretty safely.
I'm only curious because not much info is available on these compared to the i7 chips and I own an i7-3970x but would be curious to see if a $30 higher core count xeon would squeeze a little more life out of the platform.
I’m sorry to say I’m almost done with my X79 testing. My motherboard is a Revision 1.0, which doesn’t work with any v2 Xeons and - so far, at least - doesn’t work with v1s either. I tried the 2689, which was a long shot as even Intel don’t really acknowledge it exists, and the 2670 (which IS on the compat chart but still refuses to start) I have one more video coming with this board, but if I revisit X79 in the future it will have to be with a different motherboard!
all of those E5-2xxx series chips are meant for dual processor systems. Theyre no good for gaming. If you want to use Xeons for gaming, you stick with the E5-16xx series.
@@IcebergTech 2690 v1 is on the support list, and prices have dropped again (now under £20 on ebay) - tempted to pick one up from my x79 testbench (which is same mobo as yours)
The problem with any older CPU is going to be the minimum frame rates messing with your frame times. It’s definitely a viable option if your plan is buy the fastest GPU you can afford and upgrade the rest later, that’s how I got started years ago. I was running an 8800 Ultra on a 1.9 GHz AMD Athlon X2 3600+ 😆
I'm still happy on the x99 platform w/ my 6900k - been running strong for 5-6yrs now. I am planning on moving to something newer, and with the teases/rumors of HEDT coming back to Intel - I might jump in that boat again.
I had a Gigabyte x79-UD3 motherboard with the Core i7-3820K. That was my mGPU rig at that time, commonly paired with 2 Radeons in Crossfire. It was eventually upgraded to a used Core i7-4930K, and had worked great. Later, it was passed down to a friend when I moved to a Ryzen 7 1800X build. Today, the same friend inherited my Ryzen 9 5900X build (I have a 7900X3D build, and well content with it). The ol' 4930K is now the girls' PC, running VR in their playroom with an HTC Vive and a Radeon VII. Lately, the Gigabyte X79-UD3 motherboard died. The choices are now buying a new CPU, mobo, RAM setup or somehow replacing the motherboard. For $100, the motherboard was replaced with one of the Huananzhi X79 motherboards. The only downside, the 2133MHz RAM are limited to 1866 MHz. Other than that, the CPU still lives and is functional, but now with an NVMe SSD for the OS. I am surprised that it puts up a fight better than other ancient CPUs.
What a coincidence that I have a i7-4930k and is currently looking to upgrade to a 3070 but needed proof of how well they work together. It's almost like I won a raffle. Nice video!
My 3960x died last night. Confirmed this morning as my cpu led was staying lit. Just ordered a 4930k to replace it. I can't wrap my head around a full pc upgrade when I replaced a burnt processor for 42 bucks. Just my opinion of course.
@@baxter009 I'm pondering whether I should go for a 2687w v2. It's got 8 cores and on benchmarks it seems to be the fastest one you can put on my motherboard... But you can't find anything cheaper than 100€ so I don't know if it's worth doubling the price for that sort of upgrade.
I have a i7-4770k in my MediaPC and paired with the GTX 970 recently put into it, the combo is a pretty decent gaming system. It does show that you don't need the latest and greatest hardware to have a great PC gaming experience.
I just bought a used 4930k from ebay 20 minutes ago. My 3960x died last night after 24/7 use for 7 years. I bought it used from ebay also. It runs 1440p fine enough for me and sli 980ti. I mean, sure I could upgrade but 1 will bottleneck the other. A new system? Nah, 100+ fps is good for me.
Cool to see. I have an Ivey Bridge workstation. Got a good deal on a Precision T5810 with dual Xeons and maxed out with 128 GBs of RAM. I have an overkill Zotac GTX 1070 in it and it is a great machine. I my second system is based around an i5 8400 with 32GBs of RAM. Which system works best depends on what I happen to be doing at the time.
Moore's law started breaking apart sometime about 2011. I would argue even some 2010 cards would still be great if they had proper driver support. It's pretty crazy, back in 2011 if you took a CPU from an era as late as 2004 and tried to run anything modern, you would have a pretty bad time. But here in 2023, taking 13 year old CPUs to run modern titles is pretty standard stuff.
A quick simple guide to buy any Secondhand CPU. Make sure it has AVX2 instructions set. That's it. Done. The reason is not because video games actually using AVX2, but most CPUs with AVX2 already have the good IPC. So it can still handle modern Gaming or Productivity.
The easiest way to remove the plastic is to insert a gpu, think you've pushed down the release tab on the pci slot and then yank it out. Don't ask how I know.
Very good gaming performance for me , paired with the 1080ti or 1660 super. As MOBO, I use the quad channel ASUS P9X79. As for RAM, Kingston HyperX, 1600MHz.
Honestly i daily drive the E5-2689v1 xeon paird with a GTX 1070. And my friend drove the i7-3820 before getting a 4930k+RX470 8gb. We both run the chips on Huananchi Chinise X79 motherboard. My friend with the 4930k has ir overclocked to 3.9 all core, 4ghz 4core load, 4.1 2 core. And in games it boosts to the 4ghz often. My Xeon runs at 115w and the board handles it fairly well. Cant recall my model of board while my friend has the huananchi X79G v1.02. I personally enjoy the X79 platform but with newer games it is a issue with X79. And it would make more sence to go into the X99 platform woth like a 2630v3 or 2667V3 and turbo unlocking the bios
Well made video, I really enjoy watching your content =) Though.... something seems to be wrong with the BF5 data.... especially the 16 FPS 0.1% Low on the 5600x. As you have no frametimes I wonder if it was just a stutter at the beginning of the benchmark sequence. On the other hand does the 1% data also seem to be a bit to low for a 3070 on a 5600x.
Yeah, I need to work on my BF V testing, I think I’m doing something wrong. I ran tests on the 5600G using the 3070 and another mystery modern GPU yesterday and got very similar 1 and 0.1s. I’m considering trying DX11, which I’ve been recommended as being less stuttery than DX12.
Still using my i7-3770; Slaughter3000 BL3 round 5; on the 960 OC 4gb struggled even on low settings to maintain 40fps 1080p. No funds yet for the foreseeable future so 1080p with frame dips during intensive battles it is...👍
honestly even my dumpster dive e5 2643 v2 build is holding up pretty well for only running at 3.6ghz, double the l3 cache of the i7 and about on par with a stock r5 2600 while drawing about 80-90W also, that sweet cheap ecc ram... 32gb for 30€
I remember back in the days being blown away about 12 threads. Then came the 8700 giving 12threads to the consumer market. And now, my 13900k having 32threads. It's insane.
I think getting a b450 mainboard and ryzen 5 4500 would be a better bang for your bugs In germany you get a i7 4930k with mainboard used for 130 Euros while a used b450 mainboard costs 30 and a new ryzen 5 4500 70 Euros the 4500 has about 75% horsepower of a 5600x plus you get a new plattform you can upgrade from later
I currently have a build that is running an i7-4820K OC'd at 4.6GHz, 16GB DDR3-1600, GTX 1060 6GB. How much of an increase would upgrading to the CPU in this video along with the specified overclock speeds and 2133 MHz memory go for? And can the 4930K bottleneck an RTX 3060 12GB without ray tracing effects enabled?
If you have a motherboard thay can handle it, your best upgrade path would likely be the Xeon 1680 v2; 8 cores with 25MB of cache (more than the 4960X @ 15MB), although hitting the same clock speeds will probably be harder, the cache and cores should more than make up for that
Yeah you have to be careful with the AliExpress x79/x99 boards you can get a decent one but you need to watch the reviews because they very a ton. I got a E5-2650v2 8 core and board for $100 and they worked just fine but I watched miyconst first. And knew what I was getting myself into.
The biggest issue with these older cpus almost no smaller tech youtuber trying to gain popularity within budget oriented gamers, are the motherboards. While cpus last years and years without any issue, motherboards are notorious the most sensitive component of a computer, and the first to go bad. You will be lucky to have a 8 year old motherboard in prime condition with absolutely no flaws, and when you get one, it will already have its price amped up by a lot. Most of these older cpus also need decent vrms to overclock to modern clockspeed, and refurbished chinese brands are also a russian roulette as their QC is far from ideal. all in all these platforms are a bad choice for budget constrained gamers trying to build their first pc. Chances of they having issues with the mb or the pc not lasting more than one year are very high, and these people are the ones that will feel the loss of the money in the motherboard the most. These systems however are nice as a secondary computer to "mess around" for those that already have a main computer and have the money and knowhow to troubleshoot and assemble a frankenstein. Also the benchmarks show clearly how most modern game engines already benefit heavily from AVX2 cpus. I have a 3770 here and I have already officially relegated it to "retro gaming". IT can't really play most modern games above 60fps constantly, which is not good enough for any decent competitive player.
x79 platform is no cheap considering it's a HEDT, you get more ports, more ram sticks for your motherboard alongside quad channel (retro channel running non quad channel motherboard)
got a i7 3930k with the P9x79, a Rx 580 and 12gb of random RAM sticks and it's been great so far. The biggest bottleneck for competitive fps games is myself rather than my pc.
LMAO, I just replaced my 4930K w/ GTX 1080FE with a new build. 12700KF w/ 3080FE I did TRY out the 12400f & 12600k but I always wanted the 12700 even after the 13th gen came out. Love my new build it plays DCS VR & star citizen flawlessly. 4930K & x79 sabertooth is sitting in the corner but served me well.
I’m locked out of newer games but homie I run 750 Skyrim mods on an I5 2400 and a GTX 1080ti and can do the Witcher 3 at 2k 90 fps and RDR2 at 60 in 2k haha.
i literally traded my old fx 8350 with a gtx 270X for a free i7 8700k (my buddy ripped off amazon for it but didnt have the funds to build it so he was happy and so was i) but its been ol reliable, part of me misses my 1700x but my other friend uses it to its full potential being a mechanical engineer it has proven itself as an amazing cad/sollid works machine. but i still have no reason to upgrade. 8700k was the last really great cpu intel released IMO (its delidded and runs 5.0 all day all week on stock voltage lucky ass bin for a free chip)
I am here because I was looking to see how my 4930k would pair with an upgraded GPU and if I can get more FPS with an upgrade without bottle necking my CPU too much, where I could find the sweet spot.. my question is with the RTX 3070, and compared that to say a RTX 3080ti.. where the memory bus is much higher if that would help gain more FPS.. 384 bit vs 256 bit.. plus close to double the cores 10240 vs 5888 cores..
i have a i7 3770 with a rx 580 8gb cpu almost never goes above 50 60% usage on any game with ultra graphics except for cod warzone which goes up to 90%
If u'd be so inclined,u could test the x99's e52667 v4 that currently goes for $40 n performs similarly in games to the i3 12100 paired with an rx 5700xt or lower card,should make for an interesting review,am curious about the game play feel as they perform better than first gen Ryzen interms of averages
Where the hell else am I going to find reviews of decade old CPUs in current year
Budget PCs that used to be high end hardware is a surprisingly fun hobby
Phil’s Computer Lab, maybe?
@@IcebergTech Yeah but you’ve got more style, looking forward to seeing more of these my dude 👌
Tech Yes City?
just type the CPU you're looking for and then end it with 'in 2022' and guaranteed someone has got a video on it lmao
Still using this CPU today. At high resolutions 3.5k (5120x1440) its performance is still very impressive.
When I bought into x79 in 2011 I couldn’t imagine it would still be a relevant performer 13 years after launch.
From 480’s in SLI, 680, 980 and now 2080. Absolutely incredible.
Well it's because 3.5K is a ridiculous resolution, even a 4-core can handle it
@@one_step_sideways Games in general have migrated to 6/8 core support due to consoles. sub 200 dollar CPU's now have 6+ cores. Sandy/Ivy being able to overclock 50+% over factory turbo has whats kept them relevant. Even though the platform is Obsolete.
@@wutang61 an $84 cpu has 6 cores (ryzen 5 3600)
Still running my i7 4930k based PC today. It's my main non-gaming PC running Linux Mint. 9 years and still going strong.
Hell yeah me too.
Same for me, I have been useing this CPU since end 2012. What type of cooling system do you use ?
I remember Intel's HEDTs were top of the line back in 2015, while running a 4570 and wishing I could buy a HEDT board. Now my 5700u laptop can pretty much beat or at least match a 5960X in raw perf. It's amazingly fast how technology advances.
Advancements have gotten much slower over time. If you look at 1998 to 2005 which is as long period as 2015 to 2022: We went from Intel Pentium II 350MHz to AMD Athlon 64 X2 with 2.5GHz clocks
@@kimnice Well not really, the a64 x2 was bleeding edge then,nowadays it would be like a 64c threadripper.
@@abcdefg9613 he probably meant single core perfs
@@kimnice true we're starting to hit a wall but also the need isn't there as it was before even older CPUs from 2015 are still viable but you can't say the same for even a core 2 Duo ten years after its release in 2014 despite it being a legendary CPU for its time
@@kimnice Not just speed but also instruction sets and software compatibility. At this point the personal computing industry is quite mature, so many of the changes are incremental rather than massive day-and-night changes. It's not like the early days in the 80's where new models of computers were completely incompatible.
I think I figured it out is your channel called iceberg tech because you explore the iceberg of old tech and stuff?
Lol that would be a very good interpretation. Sadly I was just looking for a name that sounded cool.
I only think in dad jokes.
@@IcebergTech So it did sounded cool enough to get a good interpretation.
Nice! Convinced me to keep my 5820K a little while longer, though the 5600X is really tempting right now (lots of gaming performance, sips power, easy to cool, easy to tune, cheap mobos and ram).
honestly bro just go for 5960x or 6800x they dirt cheap now
@@josephdias5859 Not that cheap in Europe sadly, and these will be mostly a sidegrade for me. I am impatiently waiting for the new X3D chips from AMD, hopefully they're good. Otherwise will be sticking to my current PC for the next year probably.
@@Totto70770 I bought 5960x for 100$ in europe
The 5820K is still a beast i still have mine paired with a 3080 ti it slays games on high/ ultra settings. Although it does bottleneck the gpu a bit once you go 4k and above.
No joke, me too
...but just paired it with a RX6800XT.
Gave my system a second life. Only cyberpunk and Wildlands could run better for my tased
Honestly I’m really tempted to buy old cpus but then I remembered ram compatibility
Well also motherboard. You can't throw them in a modern motherboard.
If I wasn't busy cleaning the years of vape and heavy pile carpet from my customers system I could 😂
Yeah. I’m okay for RAM. CEX don’t value DDR3 very highly- even the good stuff- so I have two 8GB 2400 and two 2133 kits I picked up for about £24 each a while back. Motherboards are a bit of a problem. My Z77 that was suspiciously cheap turned out to have a dodgy top PCIE slot- it doesn’t work at all with Sandys and only works in x4 with Ivys. I’m on the hunt for a good Z97 next!
@@IcebergTech idk much about old motherboards but there’s probably a few used workstation motherboards that are good options
@@IcebergTech I have an EVGA Z97 Classified mobo sitting in the closet. It's onboard audio is dead, but I think everything else works on it. Do you want it? Just pay shipping, I'm trying to get rid of some old hardware I have laying around.
Considering how cache plays an important role in modern games, wondering how a Xeon 1680v2 would perform, it has 25mb of Cache with 8 Cores (unlocked). Might be a good chip to test if suits ur budget.
Great review! Keep up the hard work!
I have a 1680 v2; when overclocked it can be competitive with a Ryzen 2700.
It is no longer my main computer but I could definitely more than get by with it if I had to
I salivate at the thought of owning a 1680, what a monster CPU
I have a 2980v4 with lot of cache. The problem with it is the maximum boost clock of 3.2ghz. A massive bottleneck
@@giaopx for real, it's only under OC that gaming performance really shines these days.
i doubt it'd be any good. ipc was not the greatest of it and the clocks were low. i think Linus done a review on that and a few others to compare for gaming vs current midtier cpu's. bad voodoo. xeons do not work for gaming. well, might work for stuff like civ games... but not much further.
The quality of your videos is beyond anything I’ve seen on a pc component review channel in a long, long time. Keep up the great work!
Great review on i7 4930K, I personally used the Sandy 2600K and Ivy 3770 desktop systems for gaming back then. The DDR3 ram and smaller cache is holding these puppies back. Thanks for comparison!
the presentation of these cpus is really good! Your choise of music is exceptional.
I would genuinely love to see you compare/add in 1st/2nd gen ryzen with these x79 boards!
I'm in the UK and have just upgraded from my Ryzen 5 1600x to the Ryzen 5 5500, so I'd be happy to loan you my old chip if you fancy it, the old beast overclocks to 4.1ghz on all cores at 1.36v
Nice to see Ivy Bridge-E lives on, I'm rocking a xeon 1650 V2 at 4.5ghz (more or less the same as yours but 3mb less cache) and it's a solid system that rocks 48gb and was extremely cheap to put together.
Which motherboard are you using?
@@neozeed8139 ASUS Sabertooth X79
@@livingthedream915 I have the same exact combo, 1650v2 at 4.3GHz and a 1660 Super with 32GB RAM. No bottleneck here and still happy with it. Also, 1650v2 and 4930k are completely the same except the name.
@@baxter009 Exactly! I've tried to explain to peeps that these chips don't bottleneck GPUs up to a certain point and they just don't want to acknowledge that a 2013 server CPU OCed can go toe to toe with a ryzen 5 2600, I had one guy try to tell me that a i7 6700 was faster LMAO
@@livingthedream915if I may ask what voltages are you running
I have a similar combo expect my cpu is a unicorn combination of a 4960x and 1660v2
I was actually using this cpu for close to 8 years and it paired relatively well with some of the modern cards i threw at it over the years with the last one being the 1080 ti , very overkill for it's time and is actually one of the reasons why it held up so well
Exactly 💯. Best investment do far.
when overclocked how does it compete with more modern cpus?
ahaha! me too, me too! same video card too ! 1080 Ti. I recently put in a 4090 though -- that is going in my new Raptor Lake build soon. it's bottlenecking this monster gpu. never streched this cpu like it does today. time to upgrade has come
Nice seeing the 5600X in there, pretty much showing a doubling of IPC when it comes to gaming over the last 10 years. The CPU's launched at a similar price, although the motherboards for the 4930k were more expensive, though well featured compared to budget Ryzen boards.
In late 2013 I built 3930K with 32Gb ram & a GTX Titan, I still have the motherboard and ram still running, but i did change the cpu a few years back with a E5-2667v2 and as my secondary Pc it's been such a solid workhorse, one that has Windows compatability from XP right up to 10 ( with compatable gfx card of course).
The Xeon E5 1680 v2 would be interesting if you ever get a chance, 8 cores unlocked Ivy-E CPU.
I have one. At 4.4ghz this thing chews thru games. RT is still a weakpoint due to older AVX isa, but everything else runs really well.
I returned mine as it needed 1.33v for 4.5 and my 4930k needed only 1.20v, no difference in gaming.
Had fun with my x79 build but it's time to get it back to storage. Will test it probably again in a few years. Holding to one is now like a fine wine. At least working mobos gonna get only more expensive. But also x99 build is on the way so gonna have alot of testing ahead.😃
Me playing on Celeron E3300 : wow that's ultra performance 🤩
Try it, and you will cry from the lack of power of this chip
Should do one on the x99 platform with a 5820k, i would love to see how well its doing today.
I love the music choice!
My HP z440 with Xeon E-5 2697V3 (14 Core 28 Thread), 64GB RAM, and RTX 2070 performs on par with some newer systems, and I paid less than $400 for the entire thing, including video card. Xeons from the V3/V4 generation are dirt cheap right now. A 12C/24T Xeon 2650V4 is $15 right now, and its even 14nm which isn't horrible
I have a PC I built 10 years ago running this chip on an asus x79 sabertooth board with an overclock to 4.6GHz and cooled with the corsair H100i the computer is on 24/7 and the system is still going. These chips were made pretty well, I even ran this chip with a clock up to 4.9GHz and it was stable enough to give me the number 8 postion in the world for single graphics card rankings for 3DMark. Time flies doesnt it? Its hard to believe its been 10 years. That is the longest I have ever owned a single computer.
I still have a 3470 still kicking in my NAS, I had it laying around so it was perfect for the job
My 3960X still rocks it, the 4930k hums that tune good and the 5920k is still a gaming machine. You gotta do 4 sticks on the quad channel is all. I upgraded from the 4930K to a 3600X in 2020 and it wasn't much of a bump in most cases. I won't be upgrading CPU/GPU until the next GPU generation is out. Just not worth the cost.
literally bought an x79 board a couple days ago so these videos have been insanely helpful lol
I'm watching this video on my main gaming rig that has a 4930k. I've had it since they first came out and it's been rock solid.
Great job !
You should test E5 1680 v2 next :)
Maybe X99 and i7 6850k or i7 6950X in future ?
Sadly my X79 doesn’t like Xeons! It officially doesn’t support V2s, and didn’t recognise either of the V1s I’ve tried so far.
X99 is on the cards when I have some money! I already missed a couple of great deals on Asus boards ☹️
:(
Few cents about X99 : "OC Socket" only works for Haswell-E, it doesn't do much (if anything) for Broadwell-E.
Also, don't forget to OC UnCore on X99 and don't expect 3GHz+ DDR4 clocks as "given" (XMP won't help you there). X99 is like Ryzen 1-st gen in that regard.
Who else than a guy that runs his Pentiums little too high
I hope 965 is still well and alive
@@CompatibilityMadness My 6950X can handle 32GB memory @ 3200 (Samsung B-die) with low timings, but it took quite a bit fiddling with in the BIOS -- LGA2011 boards are a bitchy platform to overclock to begin with. The OC socket is indeed useless for Broadwell, since the CPU package wiring is altered compared to Haswell. My 6950X could boot and do some benchmarks with LLC @ 3800MHz, but it is unstable even with copious uncore voltage, so I leave it at 3600. The cores can go up to 4400MHz with 1.28v, but the VRM is getting too hot.
The general problem with the X99 platform is the pricing for brand name mobos (as usual), but the CPUs are relatively cheap.
From 2014 to 2019 i was rocking an i5 4590. It was great, if paired with a decent GPU. Sadly, i have to get rid of that system because it only collects dust. Great video! (Still loving the music and editing :D )
think mines a 4690k. got a 1060 and play most games at 1080p well enough. definitely time for an upgrade but I'm being patient. prices are going to go down in 2023 so..
I just found your channel and I am currently on the x79 with a 4960x. This was my first build and I had no idea what I was doing. I started life on this platform with the 3820 (I did learn how to BLK overclock which was cool). I stayed on it until Ryzen came out and purchased the 4960x on ebay for around $120. It was a drop in and had about the same benchmarks as the Ryzen 1600x. I only just on this last Prime day purchased the parts for a new pc. A 12700kf system minus the graphics card for under $700 I couldn't stop myself. It is a great system and will still live in the house doing something not sure what. But I guess what started out as a huge mistake has turned into a great purchase as the longevity cannot be argued. Lucky I guess
I JUST replaced my i7 4770k with a ryzen 7 5800x. it was honestly holding out pretty well but with newer games I was having a lot of problems. Overall it will get the job done for basic games like world of warcraft, cs go, gta 5 but if you want to play newer titles and do video editing or streaming i would not recommend buying an older generation cpu
I still use a 4770 and yeah you are right, modern games really struggle on it, especially open worlds.
You definetly should get a chinese x79 board. I have a 4820k in one at it runs at 4.4GHz. The only thing missing is votage control (but it has nvme), so I can't go any higher. I'm thinking about getting a 4930k because they're so cheap, but I don't know how high it could go with no extra voltage.
without touching the voltage, mine is pushing 4.3GHz. Haven't tried more.
I am never going to buy any of these old cpus but man is this super great content.
I actually own this cpu and have been watching since the Covid situation. Was really a nice watch. I have it with combined with a 6700xt and it reaches up to 160 fps in MW2 Multiplayer at times. Thanks for the great work. See you in the next one. :)
Impressive! I still have a x79 ud3 board lying around. Maybe it's actually worth to buy a 4930k
I bought an i7 4770K back when it was brand new. I still use it today for my home server with no issues!
Would be interesting to see how an e5-2667v2, E5- 2690v2, and E5-2697v2 stack up as they are all around $30. When you test them you can unlock power limits and overclock fsb to 110mhz pretty safely.
I'm only curious because not much info is available on these compared to the i7 chips and I own an i7-3970x but would be curious to see if a $30 higher core count xeon would squeeze a little more life out of the platform.
I’m sorry to say I’m almost done with my X79 testing. My motherboard is a Revision 1.0, which doesn’t work with any v2 Xeons and - so far, at least - doesn’t work with v1s either. I tried the 2689, which was a long shot as even Intel don’t really acknowledge it exists, and the 2670 (which IS on the compat chart but still refuses to start)
I have one more video coming with this board, but if I revisit X79 in the future it will have to be with a different motherboard!
all of those E5-2xxx series chips are meant for dual processor systems. Theyre no good for gaming. If you want to use Xeons for gaming, you stick with the E5-16xx series.
@@IcebergTech 2690 v1 is on the support list, and prices have dropped again (now under £20 on ebay) - tempted to pick one up from my x79 testbench (which is same mobo as yours)
@@a1m598 Not true. They can mostly still game. I used a Xeon E5-2690v2 up until recently. it had performance comparable to a ryzen 7 1700x in games.
These old chips make for really good windows XP rigs. I use my Xeon x5675 for the task, I just disable HT and two cores in the bios.
The problem with any older CPU is going to be the minimum frame rates messing with your frame times. It’s definitely a viable option if your plan is buy the fastest GPU you can afford and upgrade the rest later, that’s how I got started years ago. I was running an 8800 Ultra on a 1.9 GHz AMD Athlon X2 3600+ 😆
No BS, all tech! Plus synth wave hands down one of my favorite techtubers. Thanks for the content
im still on x79 for about another month or two. as i get ready to update the pc. 3930k still kicking.
I love the music you play during game play.
Cant believe a CPU done by my country of Costa Rica still holds up more than 10 years later🥹❤
I'm still happy on the x99 platform w/ my 6900k - been running strong for 5-6yrs now. I am planning on moving to something newer, and with the teases/rumors of HEDT coming back to Intel - I might jump in that boat again.
I had a Gigabyte x79-UD3 motherboard with the Core i7-3820K. That was my mGPU rig at that time, commonly paired with 2 Radeons in Crossfire. It was eventually upgraded to a used Core i7-4930K, and had worked great. Later, it was passed down to a friend when I moved to a Ryzen 7 1800X build. Today, the same friend inherited my Ryzen 9 5900X build (I have a 7900X3D build, and well content with it). The ol' 4930K is now the girls' PC, running VR in their playroom with an HTC Vive and a Radeon VII. Lately, the Gigabyte X79-UD3 motherboard died. The choices are now buying a new CPU, mobo, RAM setup or somehow replacing the motherboard. For $100, the motherboard was replaced with one of the Huananzhi X79 motherboards. The only downside, the 2133MHz RAM are limited to 1866 MHz. Other than that, the CPU still lives and is functional, but now with an NVMe SSD for the OS. I am surprised that it puts up a fight better than other ancient CPUs.
nice review. it would be nice to add some productivity benches as well.
What a coincidence that I have a i7-4930k and is currently looking to upgrade to a 3070 but needed proof of how well they work together. It's almost like I won a raffle. Nice video!
Haha same here. 4930k and looking for a new gpu upgrade from my 970. This is great.
I have been running my 4930k Since I bought it in 2013, recently swapped to a e5-2697v2.
Ivy Bridge i7-4960X@4.8 GHz + AMD RX 6800 I’m running it at the moment
Isso é realmente uma máquina de guerra! Tenho um i7 4930k e é um sonho por as mãos em um Intel Xtreme 4960X... parabéns meu amigo.
Was considering upgrading from my i7-3820, couldn't have hoped for a better video, thanks!
Do it as I upgraded to the 1650v2. Huge jump and noticeable.
My 3960x died last night. Confirmed this morning as my cpu led was staying lit. Just ordered a 4930k to replace it. I can't wrap my head around a full pc upgrade when I replaced a burnt processor for 42 bucks. Just my opinion of course.
@@therockinjunkieshow1391 i feel like ordering a 1680v2 and see how that fares.
@@baxter009 I'm pondering whether I should go for a 2687w v2. It's got 8 cores and on benchmarks it seems to be the fastest one you can put on my motherboard... But you can't find anything cheaper than 100€ so I don't know if it's worth doubling the price for that sort of upgrade.
Swapped for the 1650v2 as well because it cost only 15€. Thanks for the recommendation!
I have a i7-4770k in my MediaPC and paired with the GTX 970 recently put into it, the combo is a pretty decent gaming system. It does show that you don't need the latest and greatest hardware to have a great PC gaming experience.
I was using an i5 4690k up until a few months ago when I upgraded my PC. I even had my 3080ti in my old pc when it arrived.
if you noticed that 1% lows come from kill cams and does not interfere with normal gameplay then you should really turn off killcams and rebench
i love the editing
still rocking a 3rd gen i7 in my rig, it plays everything I need it to
I just bought a used 4930k from ebay 20 minutes ago. My 3960x died last night after 24/7 use for 7 years. I bought it used from ebay also. It runs 1440p fine enough for me and sli 980ti. I mean, sure I could upgrade but 1 will bottleneck the other. A new system? Nah, 100+ fps is good for me.
Cool to see. I have an Ivey Bridge workstation. Got a good deal on a Precision T5810 with dual Xeons and maxed out with 128 GBs of RAM. I have an overkill Zotac GTX 1070 in it and it is a great machine.
I my second system is based around an i5 8400 with 32GBs of RAM. Which system works best depends on what I happen to be doing at the time.
Moore's law started breaking apart sometime about 2011. I would argue even some 2010 cards would still be great if they had proper driver support. It's pretty crazy, back in 2011 if you took a CPU from an era as late as 2004 and tried to run anything modern, you would have a pretty bad time. But here in 2023, taking 13 year old CPUs to run modern titles is pretty standard stuff.
A quick simple guide to buy any Secondhand CPU.
Make sure it has AVX2 instructions set.
That's it. Done.
The reason is not because video games actually using AVX2, but most CPUs with AVX2 already have the good IPC. So it can still handle modern Gaming or Productivity.
Still have a SFF desktop that I upgraded with an I7-4790.
Still decent performance and now serves as the hart of my Unraid server.
The easiest way to remove the plastic is to insert a gpu, think you've pushed down the release tab on the pci slot and then yank it out. Don't ask how I know.
Very good gaming performance for me , paired with the 1080ti or 1660 super. As MOBO, I use the quad channel ASUS P9X79. As for RAM, Kingston HyperX, 1600MHz.
everyone keeps forgetting spectere and meltdown patches are to be disabled the perfomance you get the reward is so much higher than the risk
People who bought this new usually sell their "gaming tower" on craigslist for 1000$, with a GT780 nonetheless!
The latest and greatest.
still running as main until 2o24
looking forward 10 year leap of advancement
the e-51660 v1 overclock better than then V2 variant and the 1680v2 (86/16th) was a beast. I still have am X79 workstation that works well in 2022
I'm running an i7 3820, GTX 1070Ti, on a intel DX79TO mobo. It runs Elden Ring at 4k just fine.
Honestly i daily drive the E5-2689v1 xeon paird with a GTX 1070.
And my friend drove the i7-3820 before getting a 4930k+RX470 8gb.
We both run the chips on Huananchi Chinise X79 motherboard. My friend with the 4930k has ir overclocked to 3.9 all core, 4ghz 4core load, 4.1 2 core. And in games it boosts to the 4ghz often.
My Xeon runs at 115w and the board handles it fairly well. Cant recall my model of board while my friend has the huananchi X79G v1.02.
I personally enjoy the X79 platform but with newer games it is a issue with X79.
And it would make more sence to go into the X99 platform woth like a 2630v3 or 2667V3 and turbo unlocking the bios
Well made video, I really enjoy watching your content =)
Though.... something seems to be wrong with the BF5 data.... especially the 16 FPS 0.1% Low on the 5600x. As you have no frametimes I wonder if it was just a stutter at the beginning of the benchmark sequence. On the other hand does the 1% data also seem to be a bit to low for a 3070 on a 5600x.
Yeah, I need to work on my BF V testing, I think I’m doing something wrong. I ran tests on the 5600G using the 3070 and another mystery modern GPU yesterday and got very similar 1 and 0.1s.
I’m considering trying DX11, which I’ve been recommended as being less stuttery than DX12.
Still using my i7-3770; Slaughter3000 BL3 round 5; on the 960 OC 4gb struggled even on low settings to maintain 40fps 1080p. No funds yet for the foreseeable future so 1080p with frame dips during intensive battles it is...👍
honestly even my dumpster dive e5 2643 v2 build is holding up pretty well for only running at 3.6ghz, double the l3 cache of the i7 and about on par with a stock r5 2600 while drawing about 80-90W
also, that sweet cheap ecc ram... 32gb for 30€
Yes is the answer, this, and a 1070 for 100 dollar will be killer for a starter pc
I remember back in the days being blown away about 12 threads. Then came the 8700 giving 12threads to the consumer market. And now, my 13900k having 32threads. It's insane.
It was actually the Ryzen 1600 series that did that, released months before coffee lake.
I think getting a b450 mainboard and ryzen 5 4500 would be a better bang for your bugs
In germany you get a i7 4930k with mainboard used for 130 Euros while a used b450 mainboard costs 30 and a new ryzen 5 4500 70 Euros
the 4500 has about 75% horsepower of a 5600x plus you get a new plattform you can upgrade from later
A 30 pound cpu? Sounds kinda heavy 🙂
I currently have a build that is running an i7-4820K OC'd at 4.6GHz, 16GB DDR3-1600, GTX 1060 6GB. How much of an increase would upgrading to the CPU in this video along with the specified overclock speeds and 2133 MHz memory go for? And can the 4930K bottleneck an RTX 3060 12GB without ray tracing effects enabled?
If you have a motherboard thay can handle it, your best upgrade path would likely be the Xeon 1680 v2; 8 cores with 25MB of cache (more than the 4960X @ 15MB), although hitting the same clock speeds will probably be harder, the cache and cores should more than make up for that
I subbed u very good content brother
Thx man for this info
Dawid does tech stuff mentioned bfv stuttering in dx12 mode, from my own experience dx11 does feel more consistent.
Love the music
I was using my 4930k since 2014 on my p9x79-e ws until now ! Upgraded to 5950X. In fact the x79 motherboard costs 10x more than the CPU itself now...
Yeah you have to be careful with the AliExpress x79/x99 boards you can get a decent one but you need to watch the reviews because they very a ton.
I got a E5-2650v2 8 core and board for $100 and they worked just fine but I watched miyconst first. And knew what I was getting myself into.
i actually feel good knowing that the 4930k performs 50% better than my first gen xeon having 50% more cores
To this day my personal Xeon build using a E5-1650 v4 is number one on the benchmark for my HUANANZHI X99-F8.
finding the "X" motherboards for that socket is rather difficult now
the lead on the 5600x is amazing.
Still using my second hand 4930k with a ROG Rampage IV board
my old 1660 v1 was impressive for performance 4.8 ghz overclocked was a real monster
Ran a 4930k from 2013 till 2020 before upgrading to a 3900x, was still a decent CPU even when I upgraded IMO
Can you make (or maybe have you made) a comparison for 4930K and Xeon E5 2667v2, both are around 30$, Xeon was 2000$ and has 8 cores.
ya that will still game fine my i5 11400H from 2021 is similarly spec'd
The biggest issue with these older cpus almost no smaller tech youtuber trying to gain popularity within budget oriented gamers, are the motherboards.
While cpus last years and years without any issue, motherboards are notorious the most sensitive component of a computer, and the first to go bad. You will be lucky to have a 8 year old motherboard in prime condition with absolutely no flaws, and when you get one, it will already have its price amped up by a lot. Most of these older cpus also need decent vrms to overclock to modern clockspeed, and refurbished chinese brands are also a russian roulette as their QC is far from ideal.
all in all these platforms are a bad choice for budget constrained gamers trying to build their first pc. Chances of they having issues with the mb or the pc not lasting more than one year are very high, and these people are the ones that will feel the loss of the money in the motherboard the most.
These systems however are nice as a secondary computer to "mess around" for those that already have a main computer and have the money and knowhow to troubleshoot and assemble a frankenstein.
Also the benchmarks show clearly how most modern game engines already benefit heavily from AVX2 cpus. I have a 3770 here and I have already officially relegated it to "retro gaming". IT can't really play most modern games above 60fps constantly, which is not good enough for any decent competitive player.
x79 platform is no cheap considering it's a HEDT, you get more ports, more ram sticks for your motherboard alongside quad channel (retro channel running non quad channel motherboard)
got a i7 3930k with the P9x79, a Rx 580 and 12gb of random RAM sticks and it's been great so far. The biggest bottleneck for competitive fps games is myself rather than my pc.
LMAO, I just replaced my 4930K w/ GTX 1080FE with a new build.
12700KF w/ 3080FE
I did TRY out the 12400f & 12600k but I always wanted the 12700 even after the 13th gen came out.
Love my new build it plays DCS VR & star citizen flawlessly.
4930K & x79 sabertooth is sitting in the corner but served me well.
I’m locked out of newer games but homie I run 750 Skyrim mods on an I5 2400 and a GTX 1080ti and can do the Witcher 3 at 2k 90 fps and RDR2 at 60 in 2k haha.
Nice channel, awesome content
i literally traded my old fx 8350 with a gtx 270X for a free i7 8700k (my buddy ripped off amazon for it but didnt have the funds to build it so he was happy and so was i) but its been ol reliable, part of me misses my 1700x but my other friend uses it to its full potential being a mechanical engineer it has proven itself as an amazing cad/sollid works machine. but i still have no reason to upgrade. 8700k was the last really great cpu intel released IMO (its delidded and runs 5.0 all day all week on stock voltage lucky ass bin for a free chip)
I am here because I was looking to see how my 4930k would pair with an upgraded GPU and if I can get more FPS with an upgrade without bottle necking my CPU too much, where I could find the sweet spot.. my question is with the RTX 3070, and compared that to say a RTX 3080ti.. where the memory bus is much higher if that would help gain more FPS.. 384 bit vs 256 bit.. plus close to double the cores 10240 vs 5888 cores..
i have a i7 3770 with a rx 580 8gb cpu almost never goes above 50 60% usage on any game with ultra graphics except for cod warzone which goes up to 90%
If u'd be so inclined,u could test the x99's e52667 v4 that currently goes for $40 n performs similarly in games to the i3 12100 paired with an rx 5700xt or lower card,should make for an interesting review,am curious about the game play feel as they perform better than first gen Ryzen interms of averages
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E5-1680v2 if you can find. Unlock multi and 8/16 with more cache