Just upgraded my brakes to Cquence about a month ago with the dimpled & slotted black zinc rotors and the posi-quiet xtended wear pads. Very happy so far, but I also don't drive my 4R like a race car...
Thanks for the info! I'm not super impressed with my 2018's braking so I have been on the lookout for some information on what brakes to run when the time comes. I love your videos man, keep up the great work!
Hey man, Im not sure if you already have ( i couldnt find it), but i would love it if you made a video about your entire setup -- primarily what you have going on with your 4runner. The equipment you use, what all the storage and tools you have are in the trunk. Im interested and planning on making a setup like yours within the next year or two and so far it seems like yours is the perfect setup for me.Thhanks
Hey Jason, I know about a year or so ago you've sold your 4Runner and as an inspiration from watching your videos I've went out and bought one. Now I am trying to find a drawer set like the one that you have or if you by chance still have the set I would like to buy it off of you. Please let me know, thanks! So If you do have it and is selling to sell it than I am located here in North Carolina and is closer to East Overland Expo.
Jason Koertge I ran slotted rotors for years on another car and caught a small pebble, man did that make some noise! Just something to keep an eye on that’s all.
Really great videos, so much so that I went to test drive a 4Runner yesterday with the intent to purchase. I noticed the shimmy in the steering wheel at highway speeds on the 2018 TRD off road. Just wondering if you or anyone else have noticed this.
Ya know. Mine comes and goes. I was annoyed by it the other day (it’s so slight), I looked it up on t4r.org forums. Seemed super common. So - I figured if others see it, it’s not an indication of something broken or not working correctly, then I’m cool with it. Many have said it’s rooted in poorly balanced tires.
Jason Koertge they said it was just a tire balance issue. I went back and took it on a pretty long drive at all speeds. No shakes/shimmy. I walked out of there with a 2018 TRD off road. Thanks for the videos and ideas for mods to my new 4Runner.
I drove two with the same issue. My 2017 has it for like the first 10 minutes of driving until the tires warm up I guess? I’ve learned to live with it but will have them rebalance at the first oil change.
Hi Jason, to measure the height, don't measure to the ground because it depends on the tyre size, the wear, and the air pressure. Measuring from the centre of the hub is better, but the centre of the hub is not marked. Better to measure from the bottom of the rim. To install the best measurement spring and shocks, the weight of the trip packed vehicle should be measured front and rear and then the spring rate and height decided by someone who does engineering. Same for the shock rates, they should be valved for the particular vehicle and measurements of the weights of each corner. Been doing that and the result across offroad in AU made a huge difference. The problem is that the suspension sellers sell their standard shock valving regardless of the weights and spring selections.
Thanks for doing this video. I just finished lifting my FJ80 with a Dobinsons 3" lift. Love it so far. You should look into Dobinsons. They are located in South Florida, David Otero is a very knowledgeable and patient person. Dobinsons is from Australia and they are one of the more popular lifts. They are heavy duty. They have all strengths and ride feel. Thanks Jason keep up the good work.
Hey Jason great video, can you do a breakdown of what the main pieces of gear have cost. Basic cost of car plus tyres plus roof rack plus.......just to give us an idea how much it costs to put a nice overlanding rig together.
i was looking into the OME setup but then started reading the dobinson's thread on T4R forums. it seems like a similar setup and i think the dobinsons might be slightly cheaper.
I’m no expert, but my understanding of how brakes fail is overheating. And, that can happen off-road when you have to “ride” them for an extended period (e.g. downhill crawl) or just use them a lot. So, performance brakes are not just for racing.
Jason Koertge Oh, and I just replaced my TRD Pro/Bilstein suspension with the OME BP-51 kit and am really happy with it. Not sure why that is rarely part of the suspension conversation.
Jason, is there any chance you could measure the height of the floor at the rear door? Specifically where you would plant your foot. Reason I'm asking is due to my daughter's physical limitations and how she transfers from her wheel chair into the back seat. I'm a newer owner of a 4runner (totally stock 17 TRD Off Road) and am looking to maybe do a 3" lift but wondering how much higher it will raise the door sill. I did install the Amp Research retractable running boards so right now I think it's 12" to the step (when down) and another 12" to the door sill. Thanks.
Great video. Very informative. Looking forward to a review of your new brakes after you get a well rounded use from them. Your vehicle height is pretty good. Got that Toyota lean to the drivers side. Same here 😆 But great video and looking forward to the next one.
The Kings along with UCAs were a pretty straight forward bolt on/off and took me one weekend day. Not much more complicated than your front bumper. ..Maybe 6 hours and a few cold ones for front and rear with no help. Using a jack for the rear coil springs helped getting the HD OME in. .. th-cam.com/video/OICzo82jpCU/w-d-xo.html
Gonna stay with ome? Maybe the BP51 or you could always go all out and get Kings! I’ll be doing radflo 2.5” all around with 650lb front coils and total chaos UCA’s! Love the content bud! Keep it up 👍🏼
I’ve just installed my Kings on my17 TRD Pro. Def a big difference. I have the same set up front as Jason and rear arb drawers and fridge. Full skids rci sliders. OME heavy duty rear speings(440lbs). Sitting at almost the same height as jason rig. Have the 550lb coils upfront and wondering if 600 woulda been better. Still some nose dive in braking. Sweet system tho.
Did you buy the protecting plate for the back shocks? When I bought pretty much the same suspension from toytec last month I think they were $29 add on just a piece of metal to protect the bottom of the rear shock
Both are great suspension companies. King has been around a lot longer and were more off an offroad racing company. Icon have great products, so many products. At this point, it's all about preference. Both are great.
Jason, everything you've added seems to put the truck at or over the GVWR, especially with that trailer. Improving, your brakes is a good idea, but remember you only added higher friction pads and disc that may cool a bit better. The general idea about increasing braking performance is adding surface area, both on the pad and rotors. If you don't increase those, as well as a larger master cylinder and added boost, you're not really improving the brake system. also, springs and shocks alone will not compensate for the extra weight you're carrying. You really need to add better anti-sway and anti-roll controls. Not only is your full loaded over-lander not stable at highways speeds, but if you are ever in a long steep decent on a wet day, you may well end up someplace you don't want to be. I recommend you do some math and figure out where you need to be as far as safety and control.
I had racing brakes on my 4Runner and they warped after a year, went right back to Duralast ever since
Any update on how they worked long term? The brakes that is.
One word for suspension....... #FOX plane and simple for a real toyota tough shock!
Just upgraded my brakes to Cquence about a month ago with the dimpled & slotted black zinc rotors and the posi-quiet xtended wear pads. Very happy so far, but I also don't drive my 4R like a race car...
I do 😁 4runner is aweome
How are they holding up?
Thanks for the info! I'm not super impressed with my 2018's braking so I have been on the lookout for some information on what brakes to run when the time comes. I love your videos man, keep up the great work!
Im with you on that one....They are pretty awful coming from a 2014 RRS with Brembos....
When you did the OME 3” lift did you replace the UCA’s?
Center hub is the more accurate measuerment due to tire presures.
Hey man, Im not sure if you already have ( i couldnt find it), but i would love it if you made a video about your entire setup -- primarily what you have going on with your 4runner. The equipment you use, what all the storage and tools you have are in the trunk. Im interested and planning on making a setup like yours within the next year or two and so far it seems like yours is the perfect setup for me.Thhanks
I'm going with Akebono pads with stock rotors.
What brand are stock rotors?
less face more wrench
We have the same OME suspension on our FJ ,works fine.
Hey Jason, I know about a year or so ago you've sold your 4Runner and as an inspiration from watching your videos I've went out and bought one. Now I am trying to find a drawer set like the one that you have or if you by chance still have the set I would like to buy it off of you. Please let me know, thanks! So If you do have it and is selling to sell it than I am located here in North Carolina and is closer to East Overland Expo.
As always excellent video.
Brakes are always a good upgrade for any vehicle, just watch if you get mud stuck in the slots!
Oooo. Good point!!
Jason Koertge I ran slotted rotors for years on another car and caught a small pebble, man did that make some noise!
Just something to keep an eye on that’s all.
Not a bad upgrade. I was thinking that you were going with larger brakes hehe
Ground to guard will vary depending on tyres.
Really great videos, so much so that I went to test drive a 4Runner yesterday with the intent to purchase. I noticed the shimmy in the steering wheel at highway speeds on the 2018 TRD off road. Just wondering if you or anyone else have noticed this.
Ya know. Mine comes and goes. I was annoyed by it the other day (it’s so slight), I looked it up on t4r.org forums. Seemed super common. So - I figured if others see it, it’s not an indication of something broken or not working correctly, then I’m cool with it. Many have said it’s rooted in poorly balanced tires.
Jason Koertge they said it was just a tire balance issue. I went back and took it on a pretty long drive at all speeds. No shakes/shimmy. I walked out of there with a 2018 TRD off road. Thanks for the videos and ideas for mods to my new 4Runner.
I drove two with the same issue. My 2017 has it for like the first 10 minutes of driving until the tires warm up I guess? I’ve learned to live with it but will have them rebalance at the first oil change.
The timing of the ad was awesome lol. You wiped the lens and it went to ads. Good stuff Jason.
Jason, I am digging the new music and fast B roll transitions. Really enjoy your video style. Keep it up.
Thanks man!
If you're looking at a suspension upgrade, you should check out the boxed UCAs by True Travel Dynamics.
Thanks for all the great vids. You have got me wanting to do this stuff. Just got the vehicle a ZR2 and starting to figure out what I need. Thanks!
Hi Jason, to measure the height, don't measure to the ground because it depends on the tyre size, the wear, and the air pressure. Measuring from the centre of the hub is better, but the centre of the hub is not marked. Better to measure from the bottom of the rim. To install the best measurement spring and shocks, the weight of the trip packed vehicle should be measured front and rear and then the spring rate and height decided by someone who does engineering. Same for the shock rates, they should be valved for the particular vehicle and measurements of the weights of each corner. Been doing that and the result across offroad in AU made a huge difference. The problem is that the suspension sellers sell their standard shock valving regardless of the weights and spring selections.
Thanks for doing this video. I just finished lifting my FJ80 with a Dobinsons 3" lift. Love it so far. You should look into Dobinsons. They are located in South Florida, David Otero is a very knowledgeable and patient person. Dobinsons is from Australia and they are one of the more popular lifts. They are heavy duty. They have all strengths and ride feel. Thanks Jason keep up the good work.
Hey Jason great video, can you do a breakdown of what the main pieces of gear have cost. Basic cost of car plus tyres plus roof rack plus.......just to give us an idea how much it costs to put a nice overlanding rig together.
$5-$6K
Wheels and tires - $2000
Suspension - $1200
Rack - $600-1500
Gadgets, lights, sliders, etc - $1500-3000
just search product pricing yourself! dont be lazy
i was looking into the OME setup but then started reading the dobinson's thread on T4R forums. it seems like a similar setup and i think the dobinsons might be slightly cheaper.
I know several running product from Dobinsons that are happy.
I’m no expert, but my understanding of how brakes fail is overheating. And, that can happen off-road when you have to “ride” them for an extended period (e.g. downhill crawl) or just use them a lot. So, performance brakes are not just for racing.
Great point!
Jason Koertge Oh, and I just replaced my TRD Pro/Bilstein suspension with the OME BP-51 kit and am really happy with it. Not sure why that is rarely part of the suspension conversation.
Do you think you can do an one year update?
Jason, is there any chance you could measure the height of the floor at the rear door? Specifically where you would plant your foot. Reason I'm asking is due to my daughter's physical limitations and how she transfers from her wheel chair into the back seat. I'm a newer owner of a 4runner (totally stock 17 TRD Off Road) and am looking to maybe do a 3" lift but wondering how much higher it will raise the door sill. I did install the Amp Research retractable running boards so right now I think it's 12" to the step (when down) and another 12" to the door sill. Thanks.
Love your tires too.Looks like black water state your around?
Great video. Very informative. Looking forward to a review of your new brakes after you get a well rounded use from them. Your vehicle height is pretty good. Got that Toyota lean to the drivers side. Same here 😆 But great video and looking forward to the next one.
haha. yep!
And thank you!
Hey, Jason. Do you have a trusted shop that does your work in suspension and brakes, you use the dealer, or you DIY?
I’ve got a local shop that’s done work for me. Sometimes I do the work. Don’t care for suspension work though.
The Kings along with UCAs were a pretty straight forward bolt on/off and took me one weekend day. Not much more complicated than your front bumper. ..Maybe 6 hours and a few cold ones for front and rear with no help. Using a jack for the rear coil springs helped getting the HD OME in. .. th-cam.com/video/OICzo82jpCU/w-d-xo.html
So do you run any aftermarket upper control arms? Many have discuss about Highway wandering or pulling on rough crown roads.
I have factory uca's at the moment. They will be upgraded with the updates!
Brakes are very important when you're returning home from a mountain trip and all the roads are down hill.
How are the brakes holding up?
I hate the factory brakes & their "squishy" feeling/sound. This help with that at all?
Yes!
Jason Koertge oh good!!! I can't wait to fix that!
what are you using the mount your camera in the truck?
Gonna stay with ome? Maybe the BP51 or you could always go all out and get Kings! I’ll be doing radflo 2.5” all around with 650lb front coils and total chaos UCA’s! Love the content bud! Keep it up 👍🏼
Wonder if crawl control will perform any different
That’s a good point too.
I just ordered my Kings kit from Filthy Motorsports. Will send you an email once installed and I have my initial impressions.
Thank you!
I’ve just installed my Kings on my17 TRD Pro. Def a big difference. I have the same set up front as Jason and rear arb drawers and fridge. Full skids rci sliders. OME heavy duty rear speings(440lbs). Sitting at almost the same height as jason rig. Have the 550lb coils upfront and wondering if 600 woulda been better. Still some nose dive in braking. Sweet system tho.
I do have some 650lb coils which I may swap out to. Planning on a rear bumper then I’m about done
Longbow...What spring rate on the coils did Filthy set you up with?
On the rear im with a 1.5 Sway A Ways for now rell I decide how heavy i want it im the rear.
did it affect your crawl control?
Did you buy the protecting plate for the back shocks? When I bought pretty much the same suspension from toytec last month I think they were $29 add on just a piece of metal to protect the bottom of the rear shock
Check out FJ TOYMAN for the best rear shock skids
Jason, does your 4runner have KDSS?
yep
dDo have any vibration issue on you tires?
Hi, what size tires and brand do you have and want kind of lift?
You sold your 4Runner for a POS vehicle 🤦♂️
Hi can u do a comparison between icon vs king which one is better for on and off road. Thank you
Both are great suspension companies. King has been around a lot longer and were more off an offroad racing company. Icon have great products, so many products. At this point, it's all about preference. Both are great.
At 11:30 can anyone tell me what the name of that bar is with Mario on it called?
Search, "lametric time wi-fi clock for smart home black" on Amazon.
Jason, everything you've added seems to put the truck at or over the GVWR, especially with that trailer. Improving, your brakes is a good idea, but remember you only added higher friction pads and disc that may cool a bit better. The general idea about increasing braking performance is adding surface area, both on the pad and rotors. If you don't increase those, as well as a larger master cylinder and added boost, you're not really improving the brake system. also, springs and shocks alone will not compensate for the extra weight you're carrying. You really need to add better anti-sway and anti-roll controls.
Not only is your full loaded over-lander not stable at highways speeds, but if you are ever in a long steep decent on a wet day, you may well end up someplace you don't want to be. I recommend you do some math and figure out where you need to be as far as safety and control.
Actually. If you’re new here, you’ve just found one of the best channels on TH-cam
Well thank you very much sir!
Breaking 4p or 6p
Didn't upload in 1080p?
You got here too early lol. Whenever I've uploaded anything, TH-cam encodes from the smallet resolution to the highest resolution.
Yep. I always upload in 1080, check it now. Should be good.
1:39 OME OME? You mean OEM right?
hurubi no. Old Man Emu (OME) suspension.