I love that your bring this to the attention of others not just the people who depend on it. I would like to add that I just got released from king County Corrections on the 3rd of this month and am waiting to get into housing. This is what I was I was disappointed in is that for 7 1/2 they had no AA or NA programs in the jail. I could have totally utilized my time on working a program for that amount of time. Not just that but there are a lot of inmates that I would say as well as myself belong in a mental care facility over jail. I have been in out of mental hospitals for the past 25 years and are much more effective at least for myself. I was incarcerated for protecting my mother who suffers from dementia and 3 strokes. I need help processing that so it don’t take me back to what I know, self medication. After viewing your video I can’t think of a better way than to treat people while they are locked up so they some structure and strength to deal with you’re release. Thanks for listening. I appreciate your dedication and hard work.
It's the NGOs. It's a massive grift. It's a politician problem. They could have built so many Rehabs with the amount of money they've spent in immigrants too Everybody is grifting. They got it off the streets, making them look good, getting them more money, it's an Industry, period
Treatment centers such as this are money dumps for government. It's disgusting that the people running and promoting these types of housing are getting rich while the people in need are being harmed
If the government really wanted to help they would spend that money in funding 6-12 month rehab facilities and enough if them that beds are AVAILABLE! Success rate for 30 day programs is 10% success rate for long term programs us 90%. The government and alk their experts know it.
I got clean and off the streets in 94 after I got out of jail I went to drug and alcohol rehabilitation then work rehabilitation and here's the best thing I ever found since Shepherd's Chapel on YT explains the whole Bible God bless
I work with the homeless in a program where we practice harm reduction and housing first. Do you want to know how many people have died in our program from an overdose? You are not going to be able to wrap your head around the number. It's really, just mindblowing......0. Yup! That's right! Not 1 person in our program has died from an overdose. Have people overdosed? Absolutely! But did they die? No! And they didn't die because we practice harm reduction and either staff or someone they were using with, (number 1 rule of harm reduction is to NEVER use alone), have had access to as much Narcan as it took to save a life. We have had no overdose deaths even with fentanyl taking over like it has. Had they been in the streets it is likely they would be dead.
Do you know when the most dangerous time for an addict to overdose is? When they get out of jail! So that whole jail idea is REAL smart, ha! Unless, of course, you want more people to die since you don't deem them worthy of housing, just jail.
That is your solution, right? Jail! How novel and creative! Cause that has worked so far, hasn't it?? What are you actually doing for the homeless besides trying to get the funding to get them off the streets taken away? What are we gonna do if these housing sites lose funding and all the residents are put back out on the streets? .
It’s pretty irritating to see the term “Housing First” now used this way. It comes from research comparing treatment programs that supplied housing as the first step in treatment vs treatment programs that delayed housing and used it as a carrot to reward good behavior. Applying that term to this arrangement is misleading but what’s done is done and now it’s imbedded. You have to have treatment yet for one, it’s not easily available . Two, where it is, I haven’t seen great outcomes. I know one addict hospitalized and put in restraints to deal with his withdrawal symptoms. Just one case like that, plus everything else I see, where is leadership from the field of psychiatry in this state? NM has far fewer resources yet they have state approved providers trained in auricular acupuncture only, in addiction medicine. By that I mean, they are trained on the level of a peer counselor plus with 40 hours of additional training, they can legally apply auricular acupuncture for which the state Medicaid program pays. It would take leadership to get a bill passed here to do this. Anything useful is needed when the foe is fentanyl addiction. This isn’t actually Housing First. It’s just housing, End of Story. How much does Dow Constantine make? When I first moved here, I was in Redmond. I knew nothing about him but thought things looked OK. Now I’m in the CID. Never could get an appointment with Sara Perry. Got blown off by Joe McDermott’s office. Now, fed up neighbors are pushing for a law and order solution so we just saw an ordinance passed basically like a restraining order to allow police to remove dealers, pimps, before they commit more crimes. Law and order types were happy but couldn’t explain to me how, with staff shortages still at SPD, how was this going to be implemented??? Prison is not a place to get sober nor is jail. I finally looked up the term sociopath. Those who want a Singapore style approach, when I’ve discussed options with them, that term fits them. Last, Methadone is available, auricular acupuncture not so much. Is anyone familiar with kratoum or TERPENES. Docs I’ve had here were adamantly opposed to both. Clearly NIH research supports the use of terpenes. The last I read about kratoum was also very positive. I’m an MD myself. Disabled and staying that way as well as declining due to incredibly poor care. Constantine is part of the problem but where is the UW faculty? The state department of health? The county’s?
I would say with the lack of infrastructure, Jail/Prison is an excellent place for getting sober. Right now, DESC housing buildings are just a vast drug den without barely any follow-up and lack of accountability. We let drug addicts run the show at these housing facilities with zero consequences for their actions. Instead, these facilities should be used to house recovering addicts or people who are in the process of recovery. The current system is not working, and this needs to be changed. Seattle doesn't have unlimited resources to keep drug addicts housed without any change in their behavior.
Its an industry, just another way to syphon funds. Pocketing it by every person it touches on the way to pay the actual reason it was allocated. NGOs is the magic word everyone
10 weeks in King Co jail costs the same amount that it costs to house somebody for a year. It's funny how you dont mention how expensive your "solution" is. How much did those 17 times it took you cost tax payers? How many weeks were you in jail usi taxpayer money just so that 16 times you could go right back out and do what you were doing? If jail worked, it would have taken you 1 time, not 17. Just FYI 16 days in the hospital in Seattle cost the same amount for tax payers as it does to house somebody for a year.
Oh My God! Your ending. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. PEOPLE ARE DYING OUTSIDE EVERY DAY! How is that a better option for you?? This is just dumb.
I worked in Housing First for 10 years. My exposure to meth and units never mediated for meth is insane. I was scared everyday.
@@Hawks_12_ thank you for sharing
I love that your bring this to the attention of others not just the people who depend on it.
I would like to add that I just got released from king County Corrections on the 3rd of this month and am waiting to get into housing. This is what I was I was disappointed in is that for 7 1/2 they had no AA or NA programs in the jail. I could have totally utilized my time on working a program for that amount of time. Not just that but there are a lot of inmates that I would say as well as myself belong in a mental care facility over jail. I have been in out of mental hospitals for the past 25 years and are much more effective at least for myself. I was incarcerated for protecting my mother who suffers from dementia and 3 strokes. I need help processing that so it don’t take me back to what I know, self medication. After viewing your video I can’t think of a better way than to treat people while they are locked up so they some structure and strength to deal with you’re release. Thanks for listening. I appreciate your dedication and hard work.
Thanks for sharing. Keep on keeping on my friend. I wish you the best
Great film. Thanks for taking the time to shine a light on this.
We dont have a drug problem or housing problem, we have a politician problem
Has anyone investigated how much money people like Dow Constantine are making off of this?
Dow is not making $$$ directly, but the government employee unions are benefiting greatly from the emphasis to grow a large bureaucracy
It's the NGOs. It's a massive grift. It's a politician problem. They could have built so many Rehabs with the amount of money they've spent in immigrants too Everybody is grifting. They got it off the streets, making them look good, getting them more money, it's an Industry, period
Treatment centers such as this are money dumps for government.
It's disgusting that the people running and promoting these types of housing are getting rich while the people in need are being harmed
If the government really wanted to help they would spend that money in funding 6-12 month rehab facilities and enough if them that beds are AVAILABLE! Success rate for 30 day programs is 10% success rate for long term programs us 90%. The government and alk their experts know it.
I experienced this about 8 years ago in the Fleetwood building in Olympia, WA.
Compassionate is a favorite word in seattle politicians
I got clean and off the streets in 94 after I got out of jail I went to drug and alcohol rehabilitation then work rehabilitation and here's the best thing I ever found since Shepherd's Chapel on YT explains the whole Bible God bless
I work with the homeless in a program where we practice harm reduction and housing first. Do you want to know how many people have died in our program from an overdose? You are not going to be able to wrap your head around the number. It's really, just mindblowing......0. Yup! That's right! Not 1 person in our program has died from an overdose. Have people overdosed? Absolutely! But did they die? No! And they didn't die because we practice harm reduction and either staff or someone they were using with, (number 1 rule of harm reduction is to NEVER use alone), have had access to as much Narcan as it took to save a life. We have had no overdose deaths even with fentanyl taking over like it has. Had they been in the streets it is likely they would be dead.
Do you know when the most dangerous time for an addict to overdose is? When they get out of jail! So that whole jail idea is REAL smart, ha! Unless, of course, you want more people to die since you don't deem them worthy of housing, just jail.
That is your solution, right? Jail! How novel and creative! Cause that has worked so far, hasn't it??
What are you actually doing for the homeless besides trying to get the funding to get them off the streets taken away?
What are we gonna do if these housing sites lose funding and all the residents are put back out on the streets? .
It’s pretty irritating to see the term “Housing First” now used this way. It comes from research comparing treatment programs that supplied housing as the first step in treatment vs treatment programs that delayed housing and used it as a carrot to reward good behavior. Applying that term to this arrangement is misleading but what’s done is done and now it’s imbedded. You have to have treatment yet for one, it’s not easily available . Two, where it is, I haven’t seen great outcomes. I know one addict hospitalized and put in restraints to deal with his withdrawal symptoms.
Just one case like that, plus everything else I see, where is leadership from the field of psychiatry in this state? NM has far fewer resources yet they have state approved providers trained in auricular acupuncture only, in addiction medicine. By that I mean, they are trained on the level of a peer counselor plus with 40 hours of additional training, they can legally apply auricular acupuncture for which the state Medicaid program pays. It would take leadership to get a bill passed here to do this. Anything useful is needed when the foe is fentanyl addiction.
This isn’t actually Housing First. It’s just housing, End of Story. How much does Dow Constantine make? When I first moved here, I was in Redmond. I knew nothing about him but thought things looked OK. Now I’m in the CID. Never could get an appointment with Sara Perry. Got blown off by Joe McDermott’s office. Now, fed up neighbors are pushing for a law and order solution so we just saw an ordinance passed basically like a restraining order to allow police to remove dealers, pimps, before they commit more crimes. Law and order types were happy but couldn’t explain to me how, with staff shortages still at SPD, how was this going to be implemented???
Prison is not a place to get sober nor is jail. I finally looked up the term sociopath. Those who want a Singapore style approach, when I’ve discussed options with them, that term fits them.
Last, Methadone is available, auricular acupuncture not so much. Is anyone familiar with kratoum or TERPENES. Docs I’ve had here were adamantly opposed to both. Clearly NIH research supports the use of terpenes. The last I read about kratoum was also very positive.
I’m an MD myself. Disabled and staying that way as well as declining due to incredibly poor care. Constantine is part of the problem but where is the UW faculty? The state department of health? The county’s?
I would say with the lack of infrastructure, Jail/Prison is an excellent place for getting sober. Right now, DESC housing buildings are just a vast drug den without barely any follow-up and lack of accountability. We let drug addicts run the show at these housing facilities with zero consequences for their actions. Instead, these facilities should be used to house recovering addicts or people who are in the process of recovery. The current system is not working, and this needs to be changed. Seattle doesn't have unlimited resources to keep drug addicts housed without any change in their behavior.
Its an industry, just another way to syphon funds. Pocketing it by every person it touches on the way to pay the actual reason it was allocated. NGOs is the magic word everyone
If this is hospice, then hospice has turned brutal from when last needed them. How shameless are these people in government.
The side show of mercy housing, who is that?
Let them answer you
Cant send to you
Once they discovered there was money in the homeless business , all the gold digging politicians jumped om the band wagon.
Constantine is an effing joke.
Great work!
10 weeks in King Co jail costs the same amount that it costs to house somebody for a year.
It's funny how you dont mention how expensive your "solution" is.
How much did those 17 times it took you cost tax payers? How many weeks were you in jail usi taxpayer money just so that 16 times you could go right back out and do what you were doing? If jail worked, it would have taken you 1 time, not 17.
Just FYI 16 days in the hospital in Seattle cost the same amount for tax payers as it does to house somebody for a year.
Amy Smith in charge of dispatch for Seattle? We’re doomed. Another DEI hire
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Hospice care is all this is
@@andreasuarez6774 agreed
Prison is a great place to get sober.
Oh My God! Your ending. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. PEOPLE ARE DYING OUTSIDE EVERY DAY! How is that a better option for you?? This is just dumb.
So you missed the whole get people help for their addiction and mental health issues???