Hey! Game designer here (KGL in credits), glad you enjoyed the demo! It’s always a treat to hear commentary of how people feel about our work (since there’s not a lot of commentary videos about SHC24 besides the streams), and I’m extremely glad you appreciate the attention put into the game design/layouts especially, since, like you said, they’re often overlooked in the rom hacking community.
@@KayGeeEll YOOO what’s up!! Yall did an absolutely AMAZING job with this demo, super excited to see how the hack progresses in the future! I always like paying attention to level design since it impacts play so much, and I was absolutely blown away by the quality of the content here. Much love to all involved, keep on keeping on and doing amazing stuff 🙌🙌
Yo this mod/hack is so good bro, y'all COOKED with this demo. The level design is just as good as the og, the sprite work is amazing, and the experience overall is just incredible. I cannot wait for the final product, wish you guys the best in your work man 🙏
@@KayGeeEll I like the direction for this game, but I only have a few complaints: 1. Green Hill's Act 2 theme, I can't stomach, because of how the mood and tempo felt weird after hearing Act 1's theme; And we already have an official Act 2 variant in Sonic Mania. which I thought had the better music cue for Act 2, and that it even sounds good when it's 16-bitified. Plus, given how most of the background visuals have a similarity to Sonic Mania's Act 2, including the Master System assets, I wish it was the case. 2. No story intro. I know this is a work in progress, but I do like how a Hack of Sonic 1, called "Keep Running" is esentially Sonic 1 "Sonic 3" styled, in terms of storytelling. I just hope this project would do the same. 3. If what I'm hearing is true about Sky Base being the final level, I honestly don't think it would've fit the narrative thematically. I would've liked it if Sky Base was a transitional Zone between Star Light and Scrap Brain, as Sky Base's sprites resemble a bit of Star Light moreso than Scrap Brain, especially during the first act of Sky Base. Other than that, it's all good.
Despite how many classic styled fan games there has been recently there really hasn’t been that many sonic 1 styled games recently so seeing one here is really neat
Also I agree with your take on how high paths and low paths should still both be fun, since low path should always be used as a teaching tool to encourage speed and precision while still engaging the player in a good way
The elemental sheilds are so fun to use when you get them, and a challenge to keep it throughout the stage I hope that for the next official 2D sonic game that they return.
Holy crap, this just took me back in time! The format of playing old games and just ranting was the stuff I grew up on! I love this! Also 9:59 is EXACTLY why I've been a SERIAL Unleashed Hater. That game does that part wrong in every instance you can imagine.
I love this romhack and followed their Discord ever since I first saw it's earlier demos. And I fell in love with it ever since, let's hope it does not get cancelled.
Daaamn this marble zone looks extremely fun and pretty, love how they expanded on its theme of having little puzzles and traps scattered around the level
THEY CALL ME THE DRINK‼️‼️ Honestly I wouldn’t mind a reimagined version of the game, base Sonic 1 was really solid on its own in my opinion but getting like a whole new game not in like a reboot way but like something where everything in Sonic 1 gets thrown out of whack in sorts would be cool. 5:05 what in the Sonic CD is this 😭 7:25 is this game completed? Lowkey might do a whole playthrough on it 10:05 too many Advance fan devs lol 11:42 after this gameplay I never wanna see skill issue comments again Goated video as always my man
@@Barraspy I think Sonic 1 is pretty good too but if they could completely rework the problem zones? HUMINA HUMINA Hey man it’s Sonic 1… some weird shit can happen lmaoo Looks like you already got an answer but yeah it’s just a demo! They have some levels I haven’t played tho (WIPs) so that’s SUPER exciting, can’t wait to try those Maybe I need to do a Mania speed playthrough and show people how good I can be at Sonic games when I try 💀 but we’ll see Appreciate it brudda much love
Damn, while you were explaining what so many rom hacks fail where this one succeeds, I've noticed cut mechanics from even beta content! The rolling spheres, the tilting platforms? Way past cool!
@@not_kjb i was referring to the story mode of the game. I know the game is supposed to be a port of the old school games but I think having other improvements made to the main story instead of only the wide-screen and drop-dash could have been nice. The normal versions of the games could have been left in the classic mode
As someone whos been following this hack since its initial 2021 release, the icecap zone styled parallax on the lava in marble zone made my jaw drop when i first played the update.
they really managed to make the most fun level from the game even more fun. it's pretty forgiving on the players' mistakes too, doesn't matter if you fall off unlike the og
Also marble zone in this is perfect people think so Always has to be fast. No it doesn’t just solid level design is required not always speed. Speed should be a option most of the time just not every time shush
You should play the earlier version of this, called Sonic 1: Definitive (the one before Sonic 1: South Island Definitive). In that early demo, there's some killer background art for Green Hill that was cut for the later releases. Bridge Zone in that early version is also completely different, tons of underwater paths and a purple/pink mountain pallette. Expedition is by far the best version, but Sonic 1: Definitive is different enough to enjoy on its own. Seriously worth it, it's just Green Hill & Bridge so it's a nice quick run.
Ur point about bad sonic rom hacks is the reason why Nintendo is so protective and part of reason I like that Nintendo is like that it just sucks for people who actually understand level design to be held back
8:28 Bottomless pits are kind of a staple in Sonic games though. To name a few, the first Green Hill has several death pits within the opening run. Aside from Starlight there's also scrap brain zone which suspends you over a bottomless pit. They're found in Emerald Hill, Chemical Plant, Metropolis Zone etc. to name just the first two games alone. They were heavily uses in the Sonic Master System / Game Gear games too. I do get what you mean though - sometimes they can be overused. Sonic was always careful about where to place them (for the most part).
This rom is the next thing i'll download ngl, they cooked something incredible when i look at Marble zone and say "Oh this looks really fun !" :0 Update about Unleashed, am at EC and the werehog platforming sucked all my lives "-w-
❤ This is an amazing Sonic ROM Hack!! 🎉 I love it so much, and I cant wait to see where it goes from here!! 😁 I'm thinking maybe add the UFO's in Marble Zone 😊 Great review of the game too!!
I was playing rush earlier at the night carnival level and there were so many bottomless pits and I kept dying (I suck at rush style sonic games I'm hot garbage)
I wouldn't mind seeing a hybrid of the Genesis and Master system put into this. Green Hill Bridge Marble Jungle Spring Yard Labyrinth Star Light Scrap Brain Sky Base
No? This is a ROM hack that is actively rebuilding the game with 8-bit levels and new levels, all enhanced, with actually new level design (as described in DEPTH by the video developer), all redone arts, new bosses, etc. Sonic 1 Forever, whilst good and having a shared dev or two, has fundamentally different goals.
Call me shallow but the first thing I expect when the full version of this game comes out is a Sonic 2 remake of the exact same caliber to show up as well.
That is insanity. We considered it but it would take too long, especially since most of S2 would have to be thrown out to be to our standards. However, Sonic 2 Archives was at the same SHC and may be to your fancy.
@@therealinferno161 I think I played the 2023 version back in January and it ain't quite the same to me, though its potential does match Sonic 1 S.I.E's overall energy(?).
@@therealinferno161 Just played it. An improvement, for sure, and I don't mean to sound ungrateful but it's still no sequel to South Island Expedition. I try to tell myself "maybe someday" but chances are I'll never -live- get to see that someday.
... kay I appreciate the effort, but I can't get through any more than 3mins 30 seconds of your video due to the weird brainrot mannerisms you have, bro. Like calm down a bit, man. It's a rom hack. Not even that impressive.
Bro cannot tolerate someone discussing what they like about a project and sees it as equalivent to saying absolute nonsense. Let people have fun, dude. If it isn’t for you, it isn’t for you.
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Hey! Game designer here (KGL in credits), glad you enjoyed the demo! It’s always a treat to hear commentary of how people feel about our work (since there’s not a lot of commentary videos about SHC24 besides the streams), and I’m extremely glad you appreciate the attention put into the game design/layouts especially, since, like you said, they’re often overlooked in the rom hacking community.
@@KayGeeEll YOOO what’s up!! Yall did an absolutely AMAZING job with this demo, super excited to see how the hack progresses in the future! I always like paying attention to level design since it impacts play so much, and I was absolutely blown away by the quality of the content here. Much love to all involved, keep on keeping on and doing amazing stuff 🙌🙌
Thank you for making me like Sonic 1 more than 06 now
Yo this mod/hack is so good bro, y'all COOKED with this demo. The level design is just as good as the og, the sprite work is amazing, and the experience overall is just incredible. I cannot wait for the final product, wish you guys the best in your work man 🙏
@@sikosonix901 thanks bro!
@@KayGeeEll I like the direction for this game, but I only have a few complaints:
1. Green Hill's Act 2 theme, I can't stomach, because of how the mood and tempo felt weird after hearing Act 1's theme; And we already have an official Act 2 variant in Sonic Mania. which I thought had the better music cue for Act 2, and that it even sounds good when it's 16-bitified. Plus, given how most of the background visuals have a similarity to Sonic Mania's Act 2, including the Master System assets, I wish it was the case.
2. No story intro. I know this is a work in progress, but I do like how a Hack of Sonic 1, called "Keep Running" is esentially Sonic 1 "Sonic 3" styled, in terms of storytelling. I just hope this project would do the same.
3. If what I'm hearing is true about Sky Base being the final level, I honestly don't think it would've fit the narrative thematically. I would've liked it if Sky Base was a transitional Zone between Star Light and Scrap Brain, as Sky Base's sprites resemble a bit of Star Light moreso than Scrap Brain, especially during the first act of Sky Base.
Other than that, it's all good.
0:47 bro turned into sonic
I’m glad I wasn’t the only 1
@@SegaMariobeing offended by that is crazy
@@SegaMario If you despise such common slang like "bro"... Get off the internet and watch some TV or something.
@@SegaMario He's not your bro.
@@SegaMario"bro" isnt always used to call your brother/friend
Despite how many classic styled fan games there has been recently there really hasn’t been that many sonic 1 styled games recently so seeing one here is really neat
It's a rom hack
@@Jiskster ROM hacks are a subset of fan game, so I think this is fine to say.
And the fact that like more than half of the classic sonic fan games look the same. (No disrespect to the Devs)
who made your intro dawg😭 that shi heat
ME gang 😈😈 I cooked that shit up
dude your channel is marked for kids wtf
5:19 this was the best "uhhhh ackschually" voice i have ever heard.
Also I agree with your take on how high paths and low paths should still both be fun, since low path should always be used as a teaching tool to encourage speed and precision while still engaging the player in a good way
The elemental sheilds are so fun to use when you get them, and a challenge to keep it throughout the stage
I hope that for the next official 2D sonic game that they return.
Same, not seeing them was easily the most disappointing part of superstars
This is like a new entire gamw!
Holy crap, this just took me back in time! The format of playing old games and just ranting was the stuff I grew up on! I love this! Also 9:59 is EXACTLY why I've been a SERIAL Unleashed Hater. That game does that part wrong in every instance you can imagine.
Seeing how good the high path and low paths in this look, these guys absolutely understand what made sonic good
I love this romhack and followed their Discord ever since I first saw it's earlier demos. And I fell in love with it ever since, let's hope it does not get cancelled.
Sonic 1 if it was the 6th entry of the original trilogy
(I counted CD and made 3nK as two separate releases)
Sonic 1 if its on the Sega Saturn
Bro I trained several times speedrunning this one, and it's peak level design, no joke
Let me revive some of y'alls PTSD... Altitude Limit
SCREAMS
YEAH YEAH YEAH AW YEAH ALRIGHT -proceeds to fall into the pit with the instakill laser-
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS
@@StardustZee came back to this comment section only to smack myself with PTSD
*Gasps* AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Dude your commentary is AWESOME!
Daaamn this marble zone looks extremely fun and pretty, love how they expanded on its theme of having little puzzles and traps scattered around the level
intro goes so hard bro
Appreciate it gang 😈🙌
Your sense of humor is a glorious thing. Subbed!
@@hearts0feden appreciate the kind words!! 🙌🙌
THEY CALL ME THE DRINK‼️‼️
Honestly I wouldn’t mind a reimagined version of the game, base Sonic 1 was really solid on its own in my opinion but getting like a whole new game not in like a reboot way but like something where everything in Sonic 1 gets thrown out of whack in sorts would be cool.
5:05 what in the Sonic CD is this 😭
7:25 is this game completed? Lowkey might do a whole playthrough on it
10:05 too many Advance fan devs lol
11:42 after this gameplay I never wanna see skill issue comments again
Goated video as always my man
nah, it’s not completed yet, this is just a short demo to show off what we’ve done so far!
@@Barraspy I think Sonic 1 is pretty good too but if they could completely rework the problem zones? HUMINA HUMINA
Hey man it’s Sonic 1… some weird shit can happen lmaoo
Looks like you already got an answer but yeah it’s just a demo! They have some levels I haven’t played tho (WIPs) so that’s SUPER exciting, can’t wait to try those
Maybe I need to do a Mania speed playthrough and show people how good I can be at Sonic games when I try 💀 but we’ll see
Appreciate it brudda much love
bro it’s the juice not the drink
Damn, while you were explaining what so many rom hacks fail where this one succeeds, I've noticed cut mechanics from even beta content! The rolling spheres, the tilting platforms? Way past cool!
I didn't know about this, I'll definitely have to download it and try it out!
You are unofficailly the Blame Truth: The COD Father of Sonic games, keep it up!
What sonic origins could have been
This comment makes you sound like you have no idea what origins was supposed to be
@@not_kjb i was referring to the story mode of the game. I know the game is supposed to be a port of the old school games but I think having other improvements made to the main story instead of only the wide-screen and drop-dash could have been nice. The normal versions of the games could have been left in the classic mode
Holy shit dude you're just as passionate about good level design as I am X33
Subbed :3
As someone whos been following this hack since its initial 2021 release, the icecap zone styled parallax on the lava in marble zone made my jaw drop when i first played the update.
The goat will always be in our hearts tho🗿
ngl, the controls are extremely smooth, very fun to play.
and not to mention sonic 1 is my favourite from the genesis trilogy.
Hi back your doing good truly underrated TH-camr God bless
@@Landnonger appreaciate it brudda much love 🙌🙌🙏
You sold me on it with the gameplay footage alone
they really managed to make the most fun level from the game even more fun. it's pretty forgiving on the players' mistakes too, doesn't matter if you fall off unlike the og
Also marble zone in this is perfect people think so Always has to be fast. No it doesn’t just solid level design is required not always speed. Speed should be a option most of the time just not every time shush
Holy shit, Marble zone is so much more detailed than before!
you dropping videos left and right, feeding us fr 🙏
Just wait until SXS drops 😈
1:55 nah the t-bag on eggmans face just killed me, the disrespect was not needed my man
You should play the earlier version of this, called Sonic 1: Definitive (the one before Sonic 1: South Island Definitive). In that early demo, there's some killer background art for Green Hill that was cut for the later releases.
Bridge Zone in that early version is also completely different, tons of underwater paths and a purple/pink mountain pallette. Expedition is by far the best version, but Sonic 1: Definitive is different enough to enjoy on its own. Seriously worth it, it's just Green Hill & Bridge so it's a nice quick run.
Intro is amazing
@@FelixTheDogYT appreciate it gang 🙌🙌😈
his commentary feels like your in a discord call with him
Ur point about bad sonic rom hacks is the reason why Nintendo is so protective and part of reason I like that Nintendo is like that it just sucks for people who actually understand level design to be held back
8:28 Bottomless pits are kind of a staple in Sonic games though. To name a few, the first Green Hill has several death pits within the opening run. Aside from Starlight there's also scrap brain zone which suspends you over a bottomless pit. They're found in Emerald Hill, Chemical Plant, Metropolis Zone etc. to name just the first two games alone. They were heavily uses in the Sonic Master System / Game Gear games too.
I do get what you mean though - sometimes they can be overused. Sonic was always careful about where to place them (for the most part).
The funny thing is that we (RadNex) have been patching out the GHZ pits before and after the demo, LOL
I love listening to Roger Craig Smith play sonic 1
I like how they used the nick arcade background in green hill act 2
You mean Tokyo Toy Show. Nick Arcade S1 had the final BG. :p
This rom is the next thing i'll download ngl, they cooked something incredible when i look at Marble zone and say "Oh this looks really fun !" :0
Update about Unleashed, am at EC and the werehog platforming sucked all my lives "-w-
@@-mixu- yuuup that’ll be the level that does it to you LMAO
This hack actually manages to make Marble Zone fun(unlike the original Mega Drive proper version)
this is
*male to hedgehog transformation*
sonic 1!
❤ This is an amazing Sonic ROM Hack!! 🎉 I love it so much, and I cant wait to see where it goes from here!! 😁 I'm thinking maybe add the UFO's in Marble Zone 😊 Great review of the game too!!
(I mean, the miniboss is right there. :p)
They won't be in the skies, that's all I'll say.
Sonic lost his eye on the thumbnail
Wow! It's almost like Sonic is right there in front of me!
I grew up with this hegehog 🙃
The best feature is when he does shadow clone jutsu for spindash
8:19 "its what its"
Will do
try out sonic one complete, sonic 2 absolute and sonic 3 air
More vids on the Sage 2024 games would be sick man
Aldo gane looks pretty cool, Sonic 1 doenst get enough love lol
10:11 bro turned into trevor from gta
I was playing rush earlier at the night carnival level and there were so many bottomless pits and I kept dying
(I suck at rush style sonic games I'm hot garbage)
@@RoRothedude Rush has so many pits man 😭 they need to get that shit out of Sonic games forever
@@SendoDX REAL
I wouldn't mind seeing a hybrid of the Genesis and Master system put into this.
Green Hill
Bridge
Marble
Jungle
Spring Yard
Labyrinth
Star Light
Scrap Brain
Sky Base
God did!
Hey Sendo, there were also some Extra Levels in Extras, but theyre just sneak peeks. Wondering if you played those too.
they’re just unfinished/wip teasers for upcoming levels… but yeah haha, you can check them out after you beat all the main levels in the demo
@@TheeMaxMan OH MY GOD I HAD NO IDEA 😭😭 running that shit back tn on my own time, I HAVE to see what they’re cookin
@@SendoDXThe BZ2 teaser is more complete out of the two, SYZ1 is barebones but has hints of the general plans.
holy crap
Definitive edition no more?! Noted!
Ain’t that just sonic forever
@@Doxthefox this one changes a bunch of level design tho!!! Definitely check this one out
No? This is a ROM hack that is actively rebuilding the game with 8-bit levels and new levels, all enhanced, with actually new level design (as described in DEPTH by the video developer), all redone arts, new bosses, etc.
Sonic 1 Forever, whilst good and having a shared dev or two, has fundamentally different goals.
@@therealinferno161 bruh I was joking-
0:01 yes I have
These devs cooked like how you cooked with the intro
Also when is the css stream so I know if I should grind out my last three zones
Won’t be for a minute so take your time gang
@@SendoDX phew
where can I play this. I like Sonic 1 but this is even better
Shc2024 sort entries to ROM hacks
5:19
He sounds like oneyplays im sorry
Call me shallow but the first thing I expect when the full version of this game comes out is a Sonic 2 remake of the exact same caliber to show up as well.
That is insanity. We considered it but it would take too long, especially since most of S2 would have to be thrown out to be to our standards.
However, Sonic 2 Archives was at the same SHC and may be to your fancy.
@@therealinferno161 I think I played the 2023 version back in January and it ain't quite the same to me, though its potential does match Sonic 1 S.I.E's overall energy(?).
@@angelbaanyajones5288 Fair, but there was also a new demo this year and it's getting better, though not quite there. Yet.
@@therealinferno161 Just played it. An improvement, for sure, and I don't mean to sound ungrateful but it's still no sequel to South Island Expedition.
I try to tell myself "maybe someday" but chances are I'll never -live- get to see that someday.
@angelbaanyajones5288 Fair enough, was just a thought.
I now need Knuckles and knuckles feat. Knuckles in knuckles from knuckles plus knuckles K.N.U.C.K.L.E.S. On SEGA GEnesis
11:57 I agree with you but sega designed sonic 1 levels this way
@@RameNoodls unfortunately they sure did 💀
Sonic 1 but way better:
Labyrinth Zone act 1-3 No water
Still trying to get you to play before tge sequel
@@luiluiruirui post SXS I got you 😈
omg
Where's the link for the game?
I this a sonic forever mod?
ROM Hack.
So your saying I need to download sonic 1 but it will not let me download it on steam or anything else I think (idk what to do)
@Aulrick_is_cool You download the ROM directly and run it in an emulator.
Is this from SHC?
Yes.
Is it available for mobile?
@@cynthiawalker42it’s a rom so if you have a genesis emulator on mobile, then yes!
YOU FORGOT TO CREDIT ME FOR THE OTHER SPRITE IN THE THUMBNAIL!!!!
AHHH WAIT IM SO SORRY
Check the description now, it should all be there! I'm really about that
@@SendoDX Thanks!
Let’s hope someone fixes sonic CD next cause the game suuuuuuuucks
Unfortunately, that game's source code is a clusterfuck.
@@therealinferno161just like the level design
But I liek sonic cdeez
@@That1One-GuyIronic, given that CD had a considerable influence on the level design philosophy of the hack showcased, LOL
@@therealinferno161 really? In what way? Was it confirmed?
0/10, green hill isn’t looking a lot more like sand hill right now
Least narcissistic youtuber
... kay I appreciate the effort, but I can't get through any more than 3mins 30 seconds of your video due to the weird brainrot mannerisms you have, bro.
Like calm down a bit, man. It's a rom hack. Not even that impressive.
Bro cannot tolerate someone discussing what they like about a project and sees it as equalivent to saying absolute nonsense.
Let people have fun, dude. If it isn’t for you, it isn’t for you.
"not even that impressive" gtfo
now try sonic and the fallen star
@@letmemakeachannel41 already done brudda 😈