Before I entered the throne room, I made Astarion turn invisible and had him reverse pickpocket 30k into Ketherics pocket. When I entered, I had everyone invisible and had laezel and my tav go next to Ketheric and shart and astarion next to Ailyn. I had my tav shoot an arrow at him to start the conversation and talked him into going into his apostle form. That gave him the suprise buff and all four of us went first. I then had shart free Ailyn (she has to he free or he takes no damage) and had Laezel hit him with the twist of fortune (I had her buffed out with the elixar of the collasal and oil of accuracy) I miscalculated and it only took him down to 100 hp instead of instant killing him. So I had astarion (gloom stalker assassin) sneak attack him then used dread ambusher and kept sniping him with hand cross bows. The entire encounter was probably 45 seconds and only took one turn. This was on tactican mode.
That's really clever! I managed to convince ketheric to throw himself down at the end, without fighting him. But I think that was without Isobel being captured.
There’s a mod that gives you this crazy gothic looking armor and it allows you to transform into a vampiric beast. When in that form, you can one shot everything. I’ve been breezing through this game on ps5.
I don't believe you, modding games on consoles is almost impossible, you'd need custom PS5 firmware, the only other reason would be because a game incorporates mods into itself as a feature, such as Skyrim.
@ if you own the game on PS5, you would know that there is a mod list on the main menu and you can install over 100 of them. lol. you don’t believe me though? So just got the game a week ago, I beat it 2 hours ago. These are facts.
Me at level 7 attempting to beat Ketheric on tactician mode. I did it! It took me a couple hundred times, but I managed to beat him without mods or lowering the difficulty. Ketheric Thorm phase 2 First, I used misty step to get near the illithid near and cast invisibility on myself. Then I had Astarion cast invisibility on Wyll and had Wyll approach the Nightsong. I backstabbed the illithid which surprises everyone only for Wyll to use Eldritch blast and knock him towards Astarion and Shadowheart who finish him off with a backstab and a fire bolt. Next, I had Wyll free Nightsong and they took out a few of the mind flayer brains and I finished the rest with ranged sneak attacks then I had Astarion use grease to prone the four skeleton minions and Sheart set a fire spring trap. Afterwards we all made our way uphill and gave Nightsong Arial support using Eldritch blasts, fire bolts and arrows so as to save up on our level 4 spells for Myrkul, tho, I was forced to use angel guardians early by a swarm of skull minions. Also I used up two of my smoke bombs on Ketheric just to speed things up. Finally, Nightsong got him. Myrkul Me, Sheart and Astarion dashed our way back up the ladder and Wyll used the most crucial spell for our survival, Hunger of Hadar. Without it, there's no way we would have survived. Wyll then used his goated devil summon who helped me and Astarion with minion control. Shadowheart had to risk her life by jumping into Myrkul's den and used her level 4 angel summon, which gave us the edge we needed. She was knocked out by Myrkul, which is good, cuz she was also pushed off the platform and out of his cold touch range and I quickly clicked heels and healed her. I had Wyll use Hunger of Hadar twice, and this was by far the trickiest part of the battle, because I had to perfectly balance all my attacks between minions and aiming at Myrkul. It took me more than 10 tries to get it right, but I eventually got it and Myrkul finally died! Seeing Nightsong bash Ketheric's skull in a million times was the exact energy I was feeling once it was all over. I have never felt so screwed during a boss fight in my life, I thought for sure I was gonna have to reset to before the Trials of Shar at least. I even checked Reddit after the fight was over to see if there's a way I could have made it easier and they said nope, level 8 you're barely scraping by, anything lower, you're screwed without the right prep, which I really didn't. But that just goes to show that anything's possible as long as you believe in yourself. Also, I'm doing some major grinding before the next boss fight. I thought I could cheese this playthrough with a (mostly) pacifist run, but Larian said, "about that."
@@geminiguy6032 what I love about this game is that it's so replayable. And with different builds it can be such a different experience. I've gotten such good ideas from the comments here that I'm excited to do this fight again in a completely different way
I had saved the Spectator jar from Act 1 the entire time and used it to distract the Apostle while I freed the Nightsong and spammed him with Radiant damage. I also had Halsin do his Druid thing and entangle Necromites that tried to heal the Apostle. Only one ever got through my absolutely broken defense network. The Apostle then did his call of the damned bs, putting all my melee hitters into bonking range and I just pummeled him with my Paladin. Divine Smite go brrrrr
@@ThatBritishMo Caution, the Spectator will definitely fuck with anything in its vicinity, including the Nightsong (the poor bird was just CONSTANTLY getting blasted with Fear spells by both the Spectator and the Apostle lol), and it'll also just kinda fly around sometimes, but it got the job done. Also it seemed to have died alongside the other hostiles in the area, so there wasn't any issue with it sticking around after the fight either. Oh, and also, to escape the initial Call of the Damned he does (since my main character was closest and got immediately put in melee range while the Apostle was invulnerable), a nice Arrow of Teleportation worked perfectly while putting my paladin in ideal Necromite stuffing position.
I took his hammer off him in the first fight so he has to fight unarmed…. He had a rubbish mourning star in the second (Isobel isn’t fighting with him) so I took that off him as well. For the big skelator fight I spread my guys out around him and fireballed him to death… done, first try.
Even if I send someone in, everyone who walks through the door immediately joins the cutscene, also Kar'niss is fighting for Ketheric too :/ No idea how I am supposed to beat that lmao
So once the party is split, send in one person with the highest dexterity so that they will likely have the first turn in combat and wait for the cut scene to finish so that the one person is in combat. Then have everyone else crouch so they are sneaking and get them to walk in
@@ThatBritishMo I kind of managed to cheese the fight but got extremely lucky. Playing a dark urge duergar rogue. Went in with the invisibility and had the cloak equipped that gave me invis every time i kill an enemy. That way i was able to safely take out all the skeletons one by one making the fight a lot easier.
@@Asclepius-95 what I've found works quite well is sneaking your party right up next to him but just out of reach of his bone chill effect, and then casting darkness over you party. You can respec your warlock to see in magical darkness and also cast Hunger of Hadar over the Apostle of Mrykul and you can just Eldritch blast him endlessly from within magical darkness. The enemies won't be able to range attack you if you stay in darkness. Also if you have a cleric cast sanctuary on them and use them to heal the party. They also cannot be targeted then as long as they don't attack. Those are a couple of tips, hopefully they help.
I talked Ketheric into throwing himself down the hole, skipping that entire portion of his first phase and getting right to the Apostle fight. I then sent out the Spectator, which drew all of the boss's attention while I freed the Nightsong and laid into him with Radiant damage and Wyll's new summon that he got from the Rapier his mommy gave him. Straight up an easy fight because knowledge is power and you can guilt trip people into self-termination.
@@ThatBritishMo You have to do the speech options to try convincing him to surrender at the top of the tower to get the dialogue option, I think. I, playing a Paladin, and having read so much of Ketheric's story throughout the Act, felt it was the correct decision to try and see if he'd accept redemption. Sadly, I don't think redeeming him is actually on the books, because the Nightsong cuts that short. Would have been cool if that were a path though, since he's my favorite antagonist in the game so far.
@@asholok Which part of the video is the crouch not working? Is it when you face Thorm in stealth in the second part? If you let me know, I can try again and see if it's something they've patched.
@@asholok You are absolutely right. I should have stipulated the exact conditions that got me to this position in the first place. I will endeavour to make a better video tackling this fight from different angles.
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Before I entered the throne room, I made Astarion turn invisible and had him reverse pickpocket 30k into Ketherics pocket. When I entered, I had everyone invisible and had laezel and my tav go next to Ketheric and shart and astarion next to Ailyn. I had my tav shoot an arrow at him to start the conversation and talked him into going into his apostle form. That gave him the suprise buff and all four of us went first. I then had shart free Ailyn (she has to he free or he takes no damage) and had Laezel hit him with the twist of fortune (I had her buffed out with the elixar of the collasal and oil of accuracy) I miscalculated and it only took him down to 100 hp instead of instant killing him. So I had astarion (gloom stalker assassin) sneak attack him then used dread ambusher and kept sniping him with hand cross bows. The entire encounter was probably 45 seconds and only took one turn. This was on tactican mode.
This is the most inventive method I've come across yet and my favourite by far! You have a glorious brain! Thank you so much for sharing
Great video Mo! Loved it!
Thank you
That's really clever!
I managed to convince ketheric to throw himself down at the end, without fighting him. But I think that was without Isobel being captured.
With the dice rolls?
@@ThatBritishMo yeah my Monk had persuasion proficiency!
@@mohamalan ha! I've never managed to beat those dice rolls
There’s a mod that gives you this crazy gothic looking armor and it allows you to transform into a vampiric beast. When in that form, you can one shot everything. I’ve been breezing through this game on ps5.
@@bwillsskates2638 whaaat?! That's amazing
I don't believe you, modding games on consoles is almost impossible, you'd need custom PS5 firmware, the only other reason would be because a game incorporates mods into itself as a feature, such as Skyrim.
@ if you own the game on PS5, you would know that there is a mod list on the main menu and you can install over 100 of them. lol. you don’t believe me though? So just got the game a week ago, I beat it 2 hours ago. These are facts.
In the most recent patch to the game, an build in mod option in the menu was included (much like Skyrim)
Me at level 7 attempting to beat Ketheric on tactician mode.
I did it! It took me a couple hundred times, but I managed to beat him without mods or lowering the difficulty.
Ketheric Thorm phase 2
First, I used misty step to get near the illithid near and cast invisibility on myself. Then I had Astarion cast invisibility on Wyll and had Wyll approach the Nightsong.
I backstabbed the illithid which surprises everyone only for Wyll to use Eldritch blast and knock him towards Astarion and Shadowheart who finish him off with a backstab and a fire bolt.
Next, I had Wyll free Nightsong and they took out a few of the mind flayer brains and I finished the rest with ranged sneak attacks then I had Astarion use grease to prone the four skeleton minions and Sheart set a fire spring trap.
Afterwards we all made our way uphill and gave Nightsong Arial support using Eldritch blasts, fire bolts and arrows so as to save up on our level 4 spells for Myrkul, tho, I was forced to use angel guardians early by a swarm of skull minions. Also I used up two of my smoke bombs on Ketheric just to speed things up. Finally, Nightsong got him.
Myrkul
Me, Sheart and Astarion dashed our way back up the ladder and Wyll used the most crucial spell for our survival, Hunger of Hadar. Without it, there's no way we would have survived.
Wyll then used his goated devil summon who helped me and Astarion with minion control.
Shadowheart had to risk her life by jumping into Myrkul's den and used her level 4 angel summon, which gave us the edge we needed.
She was knocked out by Myrkul, which is good, cuz she was also pushed off the platform and out of his cold touch range and I quickly clicked heels and healed her.
I had Wyll use Hunger of Hadar twice, and this was by far the trickiest part of the battle, because I had to perfectly balance all my attacks between minions and aiming at Myrkul. It took me more than 10 tries to get it right, but I eventually got it and Myrkul finally died! Seeing Nightsong bash Ketheric's skull in a million times was the exact energy I was feeling once it was all over.
I have never felt so screwed during a boss fight in my life, I thought for sure I was gonna have to reset to before the Trials of Shar at least. I even checked Reddit after the fight was over to see if there's a way I could have made it easier and they said nope, level 8 you're barely scraping by, anything lower, you're screwed without the right prep, which I really didn't. But that just goes to show that anything's possible as long as you believe in yourself. Also, I'm doing some major grinding before the next boss fight. I thought I could cheese this playthrough with a (mostly) pacifist run, but Larian said, "about that."
That is hellamazing! Great job. And great tips too. Thanks for sharing that ☺️
@@ThatBritishMo thanks, hopefully I'll be more prepared for the next one. 🤞
@@geminiguy6032 what I love about this game is that it's so replayable. And with different builds it can be such a different experience. I've gotten such good ideas from the comments here that I'm excited to do this fight again in a completely different way
@@ThatBritishMo I know. Just reading some of these comments has me inspired. I'm definitely stealing the reverse pick pocketing idea.
@@geminiguy6032 oh 💯 hahaha
You can kill Squire earlier if you break into the rooms down below before finishing the temple of shar quests
Oooh thank you for that!
Kethric is easy, I'd love a walkthrough of the apostle state
You got it 🫡
I had saved the Spectator jar from Act 1 the entire time and used it to distract the Apostle while I freed the Nightsong and spammed him with Radiant damage. I also had Halsin do his Druid thing and entangle Necromites that tried to heal the Apostle. Only one ever got through my absolutely broken defense network.
The Apostle then did his call of the damned bs, putting all my melee hitters into bonking range and I just pummeled him with my Paladin.
Divine Smite go brrrrr
@@DISTurbedwaffle918 that's brilliant!
@@ThatBritishMo
Caution, the Spectator will definitely fuck with anything in its vicinity, including the Nightsong (the poor bird was just CONSTANTLY getting blasted with Fear spells by both the Spectator and the Apostle lol), and it'll also just kinda fly around sometimes, but it got the job done.
Also it seemed to have died alongside the other hostiles in the area, so there wasn't any issue with it sticking around after the fight either.
Oh, and also, to escape the initial Call of the Damned he does (since my main character was closest and got immediately put in melee range while the Apostle was invulnerable), a nice Arrow of Teleportation worked perfectly while putting my paladin in ideal Necromite stuffing position.
Fantastic video!!!
I took his hammer off him in the first fight so he has to fight unarmed…. He had a rubbish mourning star in the second (Isobel isn’t fighting with him) so I took that off him as well. For the big skelator fight I spread my guys out around him and fireballed him to death… done, first try.
I did the same, but they must have patched it - because he had it right back in the second fight too. Took it right out of my backpack lol.
@Mavryck_Tha_Myghty oh no. Not Larian stopping our cheese tactics ha ha
@@Mavryck_Tha_Myghty I had it equipped! Nothing like getting beat up with your own weapon
@wingwalker007 😅😅😅😅
You can kill the dog in his bedroom before the fight and it will not be there
Ahhhhh brilliant! Thanks for that tip
let's go, mo!
Hehe. Thank you
Even if I send someone in, everyone who walks through the door immediately joins the cutscene, also Kar'niss is fighting for Ketheric too :/
No idea how I am supposed to beat that lmao
So once the party is split, send in one person with the highest dexterity so that they will likely have the first turn in combat and wait for the cut scene to finish so that the one person is in combat. Then have everyone else crouch so they are sneaking and get them to walk in
@@ThatBritishMo I kind of managed to cheese the fight but got extremely lucky. Playing a dark urge duergar rogue. Went in with the invisibility and had the cloak equipped that gave me invis every time i kill an enemy. That way i was able to safely take out all the skeletons one by one making the fight a lot easier.
@@karmagreif that's such a great idea. I honestly love any cheese tactic haha
I bloody love cheese
This game is hard even in the exploration mode. I am quit this stupid game. 😡
You got this my dude 💪🏾💪🏾
Is there anything I can help with?
@@ThatBritishMo yeah it’s a tough fight in nightmare mode
@@samueldismukes1265 absolutely!
@@ThatBritishMo i can't beat Myurkul. By the time I get to him, I'm out of spells and he just keeps healing and is way too powerful. sigh.
@@Asclepius-95 what I've found works quite well is sneaking your party right up next to him but just out of reach of his bone chill effect, and then casting darkness over you party. You can respec your warlock to see in magical darkness and also cast Hunger of Hadar over the Apostle of Mrykul and you can just Eldritch blast him endlessly from within magical darkness. The enemies won't be able to range attack you if you stay in darkness. Also if you have a cleric cast sanctuary on them and use them to heal the party. They also cannot be targeted then as long as they don't attack.
Those are a couple of tips, hopefully they help.
really struggling because i have no spells left after the first floor. I get close but I end up getting tpk
Do you have any elixir's of arcane cultivation lying around?
I talked Ketheric into throwing himself down the hole, skipping that entire portion of his first phase and getting right to the Apostle fight.
I then sent out the Spectator, which drew all of the boss's attention while I freed the Nightsong and laid into him with Radiant damage and Wyll's new summon that he got from the Rapier his mommy gave him.
Straight up an easy fight because knowledge is power and you can guilt trip people into self-termination.
I have never succeeded in talking Ketheric into killing himself, but what a great strat. I might try your Apostle tactic out for fun
@@ThatBritishMo
You have to do the speech options to try convincing him to surrender at the top of the tower to get the dialogue option, I think.
I, playing a Paladin, and having read so much of Ketheric's story throughout the Act, felt it was the correct decision to try and see if he'd accept redemption. Sadly, I don't think redeeming him is actually on the books, because the Nightsong cuts that short.
Would have been cool if that were a path though, since he's my favorite antagonist in the game so far.
I talked him down but then nightsong arrives and we fight anyways lol.
how did yu get isobel in mine she is still dead
So in this playthrough I was Dark Urge and there's an option to force her to reunite with her father
Is there an update to Myrkul video?
No. I haven't made it yet. You're the first to request it. I can certainly look into it and try to record it on my current playthrough
Thank yu for the reply, I am trying the bombing strategy as we speak, Katheric seems to be invulnerable after their cut scene with the other evils
WAIT why is isobel there?
This one was recorded from my dark urge playthrough 😅😅
like god damnit we had right there!!
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@@todaystlalive3789 "And I love you, random citizen"
where is kar'niss?
Oh... I killed him. My Durge monk had no time for him 🤣
@@ThatBritishMo You're too lucky. I had to quit the game because Karniss was in that fight.
@Brensvenka it was indeed a stroke of good fortune
Thr crouching does not work. Lol
Do you mean where you sneak to throw the bombs? What's happening when you try?
@@ThatBritishMo same for me, it is miss or invulnerable
@@asholok Which part of the video is the crouch not working? Is it when you face Thorm in stealth in the second part? If you let me know, I can try again and see if it's something they've patched.
Ah, in my case I need to release Nightsong, and after that Ketherik become sesitive to some attacks
@@asholok You are absolutely right. I should have stipulated the exact conditions that got me to this position in the first place. I will endeavour to make a better video tackling this fight from different angles.
I don’t see isobel
*ahem* Dark Urge playthrough... 😅