@@michaeltristan crazy how toyota and subaru make one of the few affordable light weight sports coupes, and you're mad about it. No wonder everything is becoming a autotragic suv trash, because so called "car guys" like you don't buy enthusiast stuff, and then throw a fit when it goes out of production.
If I were that guy, I wouldn't do too many of these... if he breaks something he's going to quickly learn nobody makes many of the parts for cars like the 308 anymore. That and maintenance is no joke on a Ferrari.
@@brianm.595 Trust me.. Donnie is well aware.. he’s a vintage Ferrari and Lambo mechanic and pretty much the go to guy for that stuff if you’re lucky enough to be able to get on the list..
@@brianm.595 he has a giant shop / warehouse in a secret location with many old Ferraris and Lamborghinis that he works on. as far as I know, people seem to like him
It is hard to believe he was caught off guard by the BRZ. Maybe they called him and the 8ball was the only one available that day. I remember them saying they don’t always give the guests a lot of notice.
It would be more interesting to see the 308 European version, which has just over 20hp more and almost 100kg less than this American version! But great content as always!
@@Vintage_86 yea but that doesn't explain why it's a "toyoda-san" which I would assume is Toyota and Nissan. This is more of a toyota- Subaru combination
@@trystanskaggs2 Toyoda is the man that Test and signs off on the cars. The BRZ is a front end swap of the GR86, The car Akio Toyoda, the CEO and Grandson of The Founder of the Toyota Motor Company, Kiichiro Toyoda,signed off. Akio Took over the company in the 2000s, when Toyota was in a Rut and know for dinky, soulless cars, and in 2008,09 when he green lit the LFA Project, Hiromu Naruse, Toyota's test driver at the time, Trained Akio as his successor, Even taking Akio to Race at the VLN and 24h Of Nurburgring(Under the alias of Morizo). Naruse-san was Co-Founder of Gazoo Racing. When Naruse-san passed away in a Road accident, Akio took the reigns as Toyota's test driver, so when Toyota Motor Group Bought Subaru, Toyoda-san asked subaru to Make a joint project, and the BRZ was born. Akio gave the final thumbs up before the car was launched. With the new Gen GR86,BRZ,GR yaris, GR Corolla, GR supra and the many Lexus sports cars, Akio Must say that the cars are right and in the case of the BRZ/GR86 and the Supra, give the Motoring enthusiast what they wanted, like the 6 speed Manual GR Supra and the Power, Torque and chassis improvements of the GR86/BRZ.
@@trystanskaggs2 Toyoda is the founder of what became Toyota Motor Corporation in 1937. -San is a Japanese honorific added to a person’s name (usually last name) in Japan to denote respect. There are other honorifics too, not just “san”. A great example of this in America is the Karate Kid when Mr. Miyagi calls Daniel, Daniel-san.
Those 308/328s are notoriously slow af compared to today's standards, BUT, would I rather be seen driving an old Ferrari? Hells ya!! Love the generation stuff!
I saw the 1-2 misshift coming from the moment the 308 was introduced 😂😂. The gated shifter looks cool and it's fun to have the "clack clack" when changing gear, but it is not conducive to quick shifting and those older Ferrari gearboxes do _not_ like to be rushed 😅 (Also, as the bushings and such in the linkage wear over time, the alignment of the "gates" can shift every so slightly. In a car with a cloth/leather boot over the shifter, it'd be so small you'd likely not notice that much, but in a metal gated shifter it can actually *prevent you from selecting a gear* since moving 1mm or 2 mm laterally will make the gear stick interfere with the "fingers" of the metal gate, and you have to remove the gate to select that particular gear until you can put in new bushes or make a linkage adjustment 😆). Anyway, I think this race came down to the Subaru's better gear ratios (6-speed vs 5-speed) and modern tires, as well as the BRZ's better user-friendliness vs the Ferrari's finicky-ness (harder to launch and doesn't like being shifted too quickly).
Pretty impressive how fast that stock Ferrari is considering it's nearly 40 years old. That thing must have been a beast in the 80's. Such a pretty car too. Mad respect to the guy for driving it to it's limits and even letting the guys try it out.
That Ferrari guy should get invited back a lot. Chilled out, driving the heck out of that sick classic and then when you admire it he's just like "drive it". It looked and sounded brilliant and that attitude is welcome anytime, anywhere. Lets be honest aswell - that GTO won before a wheel turned just on style alone. This was a surprisingly great episode.
Donnie is a good guy to bring out a rare classic to offer up as a sacrifice to the giveaway car. Not hating...BRZ is a truly well balanced time attack, tracker, drifter. Fun to drive to work w/ all the creature comforts. Then spend your check on tires on the weekend.
Props to the Ferrari owner for driving the car and driving the hell out of it too. A Ferrari 308 is valued around 100K. I know that's not much in terms of Ferrari classics but still - its 100K for an old car.
Back in the ‘80s, I lived in S FL and had a mildly tweaked (carb, cams, headers) Sunbeam Tiger. I loved trolling 308s. They’d figure, “Oh, little British crap box, probably has some little 4 cylinder.” The light would turn green, and I’d be gone. Of course by today’s standards, the Tiger was a slug too.
I drove a 328 on my honeymoon in Hawaii Magnum style 20 years ago. It was fun. Quick but not fast. But that sound!!! A dream come true to put 220 miles on a "real" Ferrari. Today? Well, I bought a GR86 in July and just love it. Quick but not fast. A lot of the Ferrari feels in a modern package. The perfect real-world drivers toy. Very fun vid, guys.
love it! have to remember that the 308 is a GT car in it's truest form - designed for touring! great race of the past and the present! cheers from Canada!
Love that 308, wish you guys could snag some old rarri's and do some retrofit boy racer stuff to them, the 308 with all Titanium or Inconel goodies lighter wheels new tires, be a fun 80s pocket rocket.
the 308, and frankly any ferrari of that general time frame, were never absolute speed demons. what they do have though in immense quantities, is an amazing driving experience. the look, the feel, the smells, the sounds, it's a sensory 4 course meal. you don't drive those cars; you become one with the car. it's like the most amazing custom fitted suit you'll ever wear.
@@johnhufnagel oh yeah well aware, also the 80s and 90s they were geared for top speed not acceration. Such a different feel. In my opinion the F355 Spider wraps up that Era best, with the gated shifting 5 valve per cylinder V8. Mmm sounds and drives so well My Evo X beats it as well as most modern cars in a drag race but the 355 still feels pretty great at 170+mph especially with modern tires and brakes.
This video demonstrates that the passage of time is undeniable and normal for a car from 40 years ago to be unable to cope with the modern one no matter how much power and performance it has, but if there is one thing that Ferrari wins, it is undoubtedly in design.
This ferrari guy is great. Who rips their ferrari then lets others enjoy the icon. With few exceptions I would not expect a factory 80's car to be fast. Great video and would enjoy similar content.
Now these 2 couldn't be more different. We got the old classic Ferrarri vs the new hotboy basic car. Its crazy how these 2 have similar stats.. yet i imagine the Ferrarri costs at least 5-6 times as much.
An interesting thing to think about is factory horsepower is not the same as modern horsepower ratings. So more than likely in 2022 that Ferrari would be rated at maybe 200hp at the motor. A lot of the cars that were sold around 2006 were derated that year if they didn't update their motor to new standards lol (Lexus Acura Honda etc)
Props to the Ferrari owner for being so chill and driving the hell out of it
This was the slowest race this year
didn’t expect that from an old Ferrari
Then again it’s an old v8
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts v12
@@AntowQa Nope, he said V8.
Shit Donnie is the guy who works on Matt Farrah's cars, he's the guy bar none for these cars
@@AntowQa have you watch it?
Can we just do weird random stock cars like this. Such fun races when they are slow
Fr we need a bone stock mustang vs a bone stock camaro 😂 they should just do a shitbox edition
They're much closer races! Love it! Lets get some work trucks in here!
@@mullittmustang256 They low-key did a shitbox edition already with Dan's MX5 Vs Nad's Civic and we all loved that matchup let's be real 😂
@@pirozcontractor6006 I wouldn’t consider Nads civic a shitbox though, it ain’t super fast but it’s super clean it’s not that shitboxy
@@mullittmustang256 yeah it's not shitboxy at all it's a great car, lol
These are the races I wanna see! Generations of tech advancement on display
I agree, more please! These are dope.
is ron not wearing socks?
i can agree. Would love to see old tech race head to head.
bruh its not even the tech, old man lost cus drivers mod
Absolutely love the races with low power cars. The Nads vs Dan race is still one of my favorites
They need to bring nads back at least pop in a video here and there like dan does now
@@LoneCrypT AGREED. honda vs haters felt wrong with out Nads
It’s kinda boring
Nads vs Dan is the best one so far in my opinion.
Where is nads
My heart is broken but I would still take that 308 any day of the week. The guages and the wedge are iconic
Obviously, you'd have to be a moron to not take the 308
This race had an obvious winner as far as speed, but I think we all know which car is actually cooler
The brz better be faster, because I wouldn't want to be seen in it.
@@michaeltristan why?
@@michaeltristan crazy how toyota and subaru make one of the few affordable light weight sports coupes, and you're mad about it. No wonder everything is becoming a autotragic suv trash, because so called "car guys" like you don't buy enthusiast stuff, and then throw a fit when it goes out of production.
love seeing older guys taken there rides out for some fun like this
their^^
This guy gets lots of business fixing old Ferraris. Everyone has good things to say about him. I believe his name is Donnie
Y'all need to keep the 308 guy on! A whole series of "Which contemporary shit-boxes can smoke an 80's Ferrari?" would be sweet!
@hoonigan this needs to happen
If I were that guy, I wouldn't do too many of these... if he breaks something he's going to quickly learn nobody makes many of the parts for cars like the 308 anymore. That and maintenance is no joke on a Ferrari.
@@brianm.595 Trust me.. Donnie is well aware.. he’s a vintage Ferrari and Lambo mechanic and pretty much the go to guy for that stuff if you’re lucky enough to be able to get on the list..
@@brianm.595 he has a giant shop / warehouse in a secret location with many old Ferraris and Lamborghinis that he works on.
as far as I know, people seem to like him
I would throw my hat in the ring for that one. I think my Stage 1 Golf Alltrack would smoke it, and be a good match for the BRZ.
Shout out to Gary for always making me smile! Watching him go super saiyan is all I need to start my day.
anybody who follows the smoking tire knows Donnie is a god with the ferraris. didn't expect to see him racing lmao
Thought the same shit when I seen him pop up, felt quite happy bout it
Oh shit, Donnie! Idk why I didn’t connect the dots
Yep, I recognized his insta handle. Very unexpected, and very cool to see.
It is hard to believe he was caught off guard by the BRZ. Maybe they called him and the 8ball was the only one available that day. I remember them saying they don’t always give the guests a lot of notice.
@@chaseteter They needed something comparable. A supercar vs low tier sports car would not be comparable.
It’s crazy watching the difference between these cars and really fast cars.
PS… stage 4 ballast was high quality humor.
Donny is a Ferrari legend. He should be on the channel more. The man has a rye and dry sense of humor and knows his ish.
Yeah, I met him through The Smoking Tire, dude is cool!
We need more of these sub 300hp races. So much more fun to watch
This Vs That on a Thursday ? My day can’t get any better
Unless it's another video 😆 🤣 😂
Literally my thoughts exactly
@@Smzxe nah fam, in the real world its Thursday.
I thought the same then I seen a 308 was racing and I was proven wrong
and no class today or tomorrow im living
2 episodes of this vs that a week sounds dope
Magnaflow really made a good exhaust for that BRZ! Sounds really nice and smooth, crisp, acoustics and reminds me of a British roadster.
It would be more interesting to see the 308 European version, which has just over 20hp more and almost 100kg less than this American version! But great content as always!
There is 100kg in the bumpers alone 😁
And doesn't have that ugly af front bumper strip.
Two This vs That episodes in a week? The Hoonigan gods are kind to us.
Those Gear Ratios on the BRZ and the Power Band are ON POINT. Good Shit Toyoda-san, this is a damn nice car
the boxer engine is a Subaru
@@interceptingfist5682 But the transmission is made by Toyota. That’s why he mentioned the gear ratios.
@@Vintage_86 yea but that doesn't explain why it's a "toyoda-san" which I would assume is Toyota and Nissan. This is more of a toyota- Subaru combination
@@trystanskaggs2 Toyoda is the man that Test and signs off on the cars. The BRZ is a front end swap of the GR86, The car Akio Toyoda, the CEO and Grandson of The Founder of the Toyota Motor Company, Kiichiro Toyoda,signed off. Akio Took over the company in the 2000s, when Toyota was in a Rut and know for dinky, soulless cars, and in 2008,09 when he green lit the LFA Project, Hiromu Naruse, Toyota's test driver at the time, Trained Akio as his successor, Even taking Akio to Race at the VLN and 24h Of Nurburgring(Under the alias of Morizo). Naruse-san was Co-Founder of Gazoo Racing. When Naruse-san passed away in a Road accident, Akio took the reigns as Toyota's test driver, so when Toyota Motor Group Bought Subaru, Toyoda-san asked subaru to Make a joint project, and the BRZ was born. Akio gave the final thumbs up before the car was launched. With the new Gen GR86,BRZ,GR yaris, GR Corolla, GR supra and the many Lexus sports cars, Akio Must say that the cars are right and in the case of the BRZ/GR86 and the Supra, give the Motoring enthusiast what they wanted, like the 6 speed Manual GR Supra and the Power, Torque and chassis improvements of the GR86/BRZ.
@@trystanskaggs2 Toyoda is the founder of what became Toyota Motor Corporation in 1937. -San is a Japanese honorific added to a person’s name (usually last name) in Japan to denote respect. There are other honorifics too, not just “san”. A great example of this in America is the Karate Kid when Mr. Miyagi calls Daniel, Daniel-san.
Those 308/328s are notoriously slow af compared to today's standards, BUT, would I rather be seen driving an old Ferrari? Hells ya!!
Love the generation stuff!
We aren't worthy of Gary. That man is amazing.
apparently, not amazing at driving
I saw the 1-2 misshift coming from the moment the 308 was introduced 😂😂. The gated shifter looks cool and it's fun to have the "clack clack" when changing gear, but it is not conducive to quick shifting and those older Ferrari gearboxes do _not_ like to be rushed 😅 (Also, as the bushings and such in the linkage wear over time, the alignment of the "gates" can shift every so slightly. In a car with a cloth/leather boot over the shifter, it'd be so small you'd likely not notice that much, but in a metal gated shifter it can actually *prevent you from selecting a gear* since moving 1mm or 2 mm laterally will make the gear stick interfere with the "fingers" of the metal gate, and you have to remove the gate to select that particular gear until you can put in new bushes or make a linkage adjustment 😆).
Anyway, I think this race came down to the Subaru's better gear ratios (6-speed vs 5-speed) and modern tires, as well as the BRZ's better user-friendliness vs the Ferrari's finicky-ness (harder to launch and doesn't like being shifted too quickly).
For sure, gated shifters are cool but they just exist to hide the fact that the gearboxes aren't actually that good!
Pretty impressive how fast that stock Ferrari is considering it's nearly 40 years old. That thing must have been a beast in the 80's. Such a pretty car too. Mad respect to the guy for driving it to it's limits and even letting the guys try it out.
Love to see how far cars have evolved! Props to the ferrari guy, that supercar still cool as balls, and looks great for the time!
More sub-500hp cars please! These races are so much closer and more entertaining!
Day always gets better when y’all drop another one of these episodes for sure!!!
Enzo Ferrari really knew how to make a V8 sound like a little i4.
Yeah, you need unequal length headers for cross planes to sound alright
BRZ lighting it up on stock power. Very nice
That Ferrari guy should get invited back a lot. Chilled out, driving the heck out of that sick classic and then when you admire it he's just like "drive it".
It looked and sounded brilliant and that attitude is welcome anytime, anywhere.
Lets be honest aswell - that GTO won before a wheel turned just on style alone.
This was a surprisingly great episode.
Best part is no matter who wins, there is always a good shreding at the end!
It’s nice seeing cars that aren’t built, this was really fun to watch!!!!
11:33 DAMN Ron, that was SLICK! I legit rewound that a few times and watched it over again! Nicely done!
These “slow cars” are entertaining as shit lol. This vs That is such a awesome series 💪
I hope you drop some new uploads with the Dyno Everything!
Gary and the editors ! A match made in heaven 😂😂😂
Donny is such a legend I wish he talked about his job more holy shit, he’s a crazy talented technician
Love those slow races.
Donnie is a good guy to bring out a rare classic to offer up as a sacrifice to the giveaway car. Not hating...BRZ is a truly well balanced time attack, tracker, drifter. Fun to drive to work w/ all the creature comforts. Then spend your check on tires on the weekend.
Matt Farahs mechanic racing his Ferrari, respect!
Props to the Ferrari owner for driving the car and driving the hell out of it too. A Ferrari 308 is valued around 100K. I know that's not much in terms of Ferrari classics but still - its 100K for an old car.
I like seeing the lower powered cars get some love
LOVE Donny for having cassettes and apparently using them. Cassettes aren’t dead! 😂
"that's what I want my life to look like when I hit like about 40"
My favorite one
This vs that needs to have an asphalt snowmobile on the episode!
The old horse against a new car and all its computers. 2.8 V8 in Ferrari. Is that a typo?
Nope Ferrari always went with smaller v8s. Same in the f40 although i believe thats a bit bigger
@@MK-wx5vu F40 was a 2.9L TT V8
@@SnowWolf9999 ah alright thanks for the info👍
I knew about the TT part just wasn't sure about the displacement
Back in the ‘80s, I lived in S FL and had a mildly tweaked (carb, cams, headers) Sunbeam Tiger. I loved trolling 308s. They’d figure, “Oh, little British crap box, probably has some little 4 cylinder.” The light would turn green, and I’d be gone. Of course by today’s standards, the Tiger was a slug too.
Donnie is the man! He’s a hell of a wrench too!
I drove a 328 on my honeymoon in Hawaii Magnum style 20 years ago. It was fun. Quick but not fast. But that sound!!! A dream come true to put 220 miles on a "real" Ferrari. Today? Well, I bought a GR86 in July and just love it. Quick but not fast. A lot of the Ferrari feels in a modern package. The perfect real-world drivers toy. Very fun vid, guys.
I love this! Bring more slow cars drag race!
This might be the best this vs that so far
Hoonigan,making my day better !!!👊🏻👊🏻
love it! have to remember that the 308 is a GT car in it's truest form - designed for touring! great race of the past and the present! cheers from Canada!
No, it isn't. It's a sports car. The front-engined V12 Ferraris are the GT cars.
If you like a 308 go check out Mike from Stanceworks K-swap it’s going to be a 1000+bhp wide body track monster ! Insane level of detail ✌🏽
Donnie is the man you go to for all vintage Ferrari work. He is the man!
Love that 308, wish you guys could snag some old rarri's and do some retrofit boy racer stuff to them, the 308 with all Titanium or Inconel goodies lighter wheels new tires, be a fun 80s pocket rocket.
the 308, and frankly any ferrari of that general time frame, were never absolute speed demons. what they do have though in immense quantities, is an amazing driving experience. the look, the feel, the smells, the sounds, it's a sensory 4 course meal. you don't drive those cars; you become one with the car. it's like the most amazing custom fitted suit you'll ever wear.
@@johnhufnagel oh yeah well aware, also the 80s and 90s they were geared for top speed not acceration. Such a different feel. In my opinion the F355 Spider wraps up that Era best, with the gated shifting 5 valve per cylinder V8. Mmm sounds and drives so well My Evo X beats it as well as most modern cars in a drag race but the 355 still feels pretty great at 170+mph especially with modern tires and brakes.
New show idea:
Ron and Vin as The Bob's (Bolt-On Boys) from office space but they build club sport racers
That BRZ sounds great, good job bolt on boyz 🤙
Patiently waiting for the Cali vs Houston
2 in a week?!
I’m with it!!!
Never let Gary leave, he brings so much to Hoonigan
The power up to super saiyan had me dead.
Heart warming episode
Drone shot in race 2 was amazing
hitting that like button bc its so fun to watch the fellas jump in that Ferrari and admire it
This video demonstrates that the passage of time is undeniable and normal for a car from 40 years ago to be unable to cope with the modern one no matter how much power and performance it has, but if there is one thing that Ferrari wins, it is undoubtedly in design.
308 driver is built different. Props dude thanks for showing us.
It's like racing a car with a.c. switched on when Gary is in that Subaru
“ maaan that’s crazy… with the keys all in it..” 😂
I love this. It’s more relaxed then the normal this vs that and it really shows how stock cars push their limits
That ferrari is beautiful, props to him for bringing it out
Really there should be a this vs that on Mondays and Fridays just for good start and ends to a work week!
Bruh… Ferrari 308 with hoonigan dropping 308s…. 🤯🤯 editors once again.. 👏🏾👏🏾
The editor(s) who throw in these hilarious memes need a bonus. That lil Yachty shit is so fucking funny.
Finally Something a BRZ can beat!
Editors are goated that super sayian edit was cool asf
the gods have bestowed a great and powerful gift of more episodes, tis an awesome blessing
dang, hoonigan pulling this vs that, hoon cars vs exotics now? definitely makes some good races!
Camera man is doing the Lord's work out here!
Never thought I'd hear Zac say he likes how a Clean, Not annoying, not irritating, 4 cylinder, is the most important part of a BRZ 😋
The Bolt On Boys
Done good
Great little Subi
Nice driving Ron
Love the 308
I remember the days when that was the ticket to drive
Nice races Hoon'rs🏁
Hopefully one day hoonigan should have a video game that captures every inch of car culture.
This ferrari guy is great. Who rips their ferrari then lets others enjoy the icon. With few exceptions I would not expect a factory 80's car to be fast. Great video and would enjoy similar content.
I don't care how much slower that 308 is, it's a beautiful work of art
Gotta love the constant love for the 2022 brzs across TH-cam
These past episodes have been straight fire.
Still the best editing in the game
Modern technology a its finest. Props to the 308 owner for being so chill
This is the kind of races this show was built for
I want to see StanceWorks K-swap Ferrari 308 vs Boostedboiz K-swap NSX.
How many guys out dragging their 80s Ferrari. Dudes a legend 🫡
Now these 2 couldn't be more different. We got the old classic Ferrarri vs the new hotboy basic car.
Its crazy how these 2 have similar stats.. yet i imagine the Ferrarri costs at least 5-6 times as much.
No they are not that bad... the 308 today ranges between 49.000 - 89.000 € , depending on spec & miles 🙂
The ballast boy proved power to weight ratio isn’t real
Super cool Ferrari owner. Nice to see them having fun.
Its a sad day when you realize the F150 company truck could out run the two cars on this versus that. I would still love to own that Ferrari 308
An interesting thing to think about is factory horsepower is not the same as modern horsepower ratings. So more than likely in 2022 that Ferrari would be rated at maybe 200hp at the motor. A lot of the cars that were sold around 2006 were derated that year if they didn't update their motor to new standards lol (Lexus Acura Honda etc)
We've come a considerably long way from the 80's , this race was easy to score. Props to the Ferrari for still pacing with the newer boi
One of these times I’d love to make it down there for an event. Have fun Hoons!
Man the beats in these edits just keep getting better. 🔥
Its great to see the master technician Donnie actually drives his cars! Defiantly have him back!
Damn donnie RIPPED that shift at 14:05
"My hands are too quick for my feet" The brass on this guy. lmao. Pops got some lines.
I felt the dollars burn when he scratched that gear
lol I love how quiet the race was in comparison to the usual boosted Hondas and american V8s