Porsche 911 993 - here's why to BUY
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- Porsche 911 993. Back in the day I yearned for all of those Porsche 911 versions yet in 1994 I was dazzled by the 993. For me this one banished all of the earlier models to history.
With hindsight it now seems Zuffenhausen hit the target with this cars blend of technology, air-cooled development, and for the 1990’s a high tech appearance based upon the 959 hyper car. We can now see this for what it was back then - a fitting final hurrah for Porsche air cooled engined cars.
A big thank you again to Alastair Dootson for loaning me this Beautiful 993.
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They all cost $100,000+ now
I wish I had a silver one ☝️
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Since I was a Teenager the Porsche 911 is my Dream Car. 1997 my dream came true, and I acquired a brand new 993 C4 3.8 l , which I drive regularly to this day.
I like my new 992 also, but the „automobile part of my heart“ belonged to the luftgekühlt one ! And the day will come, I“ll have my „Last Drive“ and my Son will enjoy this wonderful car.
I’ve had mine for around 10 years; running costs are not excessive albeit all Porsche spares are not cheap. The slightly offset pedal layout on the right hand drive cars doesn’t suit everyone but the exhaust note is just wonderful. It’s the prettiest 911.
Do you have a cool Porsche? live in the UK and might like it featured here on the channel, let me know, best way to contact me is The best way to contact me is via Instagram @roger_bailey1361 using the message feature 👍🏼 - Roger
I have a 1979 SC 👍
@@nickpanayotou1 sounds interesting, feel free to message me The best way to contact me is via Instagram @roger_bailey1361 using the message feature 👍🏼 or email address which is in the channel about page
That intro of yours is so 1990s-esque, I love it. And the 993 is a true gem.
Like the 993.. agree they are the best and last of a great line of Aircooled Porsches
Fun fact: The 993 was supposed to be the first water-cooled car, and also was supposed to have an all-new chassis under that new body, but Porsche was broke. The 996 is what the 993 was meant to be by its designers.
Thanks for the information 🇺🇸👍
I've always wondered if the 993 water cooled would have had the same sloping posterior if required to accomodate the extra plumbing. Most likely a fatter rump like the 996 I suspect which may have dramatically changed the overall design. I love the 993, but after a 3.2 Carrera years ago I decided on a 996.1 and I absolutely love it. But the 993 silhouette is nigh on perfect.
@@grantatkinson1202 993 and 997 in my opinion were the best modern Porsches
Bollocks
You are talking bollocks
Great clip that captures all the essential points. I was lucky enough to buy a ‘97 manual coupe 7 years ago. I traded my Honda Civic plus cash for it. I have had to spend a lot of money getting common issues sorted over the years, but the car gives me so much pleasure there is no way I could let go of it. I have added a manual 981 Boxster s (with sports suspension) to the garage since and while it is brilliant in its own right with its own distinctive almost formula 1 scream in comparison, there is something so special about the 993. It’s a full throttle car, whereas the 981 tips over that point with a bit more power and bit less grip. I also prefer it’s rear engine dynamics and the way the car speaks to me in the corners - I feel I know where it’s limits are; there’s a progressiveness to it. The 981 does handle tremendously well with its mid engine weight distribution, but I find its limits more elusive and that it could snap on me if I push it too hard (or get lulled into not driving it like a 911). In weaker moments I have considered selling both for a more modern manual 911, but I know that would not be the right move for me. People usually describe the 993 as being special because it’s the last of the air cooled. Something that isn’t talked about all that much is that it’s arguably the last 911 that had the length of gearing that makes most sense for spirited road driving. The issue of tall gearing in modern Porsches is not limited to the mid engine cars, even if it is more noticeable in those cars because they have less low down torque than 911s.
sounds like you have a keeper there Peter, good point about the gearing
Still my favorite Porsche probably will never sell my 1998 993TT
one of the best 993 video reviews I have seen, watched it three times now, thanks
Wow, thanks!
i just watched this again, it is one of the very best videos on TH-cam, wow
wow Spook 1111 very kind of you to say
Thanks, I agree, possibly the nicest looking Porsche model ever built.
What a car the 993 is, a drive with a friend in mine last weekend and he shouted this thing rips and sounds like a Kramer 935 (courtesy of RSR system) at high revs. Girlfriend swoons when I open her up. Car is too crazy to let go. Mines a keeper for sure.
one of the greatest car clips I have seen on youtube, up there with the orange murcielago from topgear, sometime around 2009...
thanks ! !
agreed
last of the small 911's before they all got way too big, nice overview, beautiful filming
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Great vid Roger. From the rear end, there’s no nicer 911 in my view.
i agree totally, the 993 is a very special generation of 911, not least as it was the last and therefore most developed aircooled car, kudos to you roger, you nailed it once again
thanks, nice to see you again Jed
I wish I had never sold my 1997 Targa Tiptronic, Arctic Silver, Boxster Red interior with wood dash and white dials!
And?
@@michaelclegg1 lol!
You forgot to mention that when buying a 993, get one in silver as to hark back to Porsche's 1950's and 60's racing days 8-))... That's what colour I'd buy one in.
Great video again Roger. Can't fault it... But could have been a tad longer ;-))...
Your No1 Stalker
Yes silver seems very appropriate, there’s a correctly coloured silver 1950’s Spyder rep buzzing around my home town lately, thanks for always looking in TZ, I look forward to your words, keep stalking 👍🏼 RB
I love Silver too, but one thing I love about Porsche is that they offer so many "odd" colors. I really like that Mexico Blue on an old 911 and 993 if you've ever seen one.
All the guys in PCA have silver cars. They’re pretty but there’s a million of them.
@@beardedgarage true. 😂 I’m thinking about putting a Mexico blue wrap on mine, make it different.
@@Backin48 That's my favorite Porsche color of all time. I've been dreaming of a 911 GT3 in Mexico blue since I first saw one.
993 S body is one of the quintessential retro body designs
So macho yet svelte
Certainly the 993 is an all time great....280 hp instantly reminded me of the 981 Cayman base (275hp) with its mid-engine layout ,outstanding driving dynamics and equal amount of beauty and true Porsche design language. If the 993 is as great as it is, the 981 base cayman must be a steal as a future classic.....
I think the 987.2, 981, and 718 GTS 4.0 are all future classics.
Great review! Indeed that the 993 911 is the best 911 generation ever.
I agree i have a 1995 993 C4 .. it's the only car i ever owned that is appreciating in value .. last of the aircooled.
so well done these videos of rogers, worth he wait when the land, I agree btw this 993 is really pretty
Beautiful review Roger. Had mine for nearly 10years, and a 964C2 for 13yrs prior. Absolutely love it for the feeling it gives.
The 993 really is the best 911 ever produced. Before they (MDs and CEO) started chasing the $$ return. GT3's and todays Turbo's are very good, but nothing gives such driving pleasure as a 993. Thank you
thanks for your comments, 993 is uniquely special and worth holding onto
Well written and well delivered piece once again Roger. Your Vlogs are so well thought out. Keep it up.
Thanks, will do! :-)
Great to see you back Roger. I always look forward to your Porsche content 👍🏻
Thanks 👍!
now this is what a call a car review, great filming and editing and an interesting comentry, great work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
agreed
Fantastic video!
All 993 owners owe you a big thumbs up.
Excellent review, this video review has me very tempted. Thanks RB
glad you liked David, I'm tempted too !
Great review! The 993 is truly a special car! Cheers!
cheers Chef !
+1. . I get a kick out of these popular as of late Carrera 993 TH-cam videos ... especially when the Carrera is finished with Arctic Silver metallic & wearing original CUP II wheels. . When spec-ing the '98 Carrera S coupe purchase,,, on the mind of many enthusiasts was the 911 evolution that started in 1964 was coming to an end. . The 911 models to come will depart greatly from Stuttgart- Zuffenhausen engineering's 34-year evolution. . With that in mind myself and others placed 1998 993 orders.. So glad to own & drive an original 993 C2S coupe finished in Arctic Silver metallic w/black full leather & don't forget the CUP II wheels ....
Roger you always get my juices flowing after watching your great vids...am up early tomorrow morning giving my silver 04 targa a blast South Yorkshire cheers lad.👍
Have fun !!
fantastic video for a beautiful car. thanks Roger for making and sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
these have always been very investable, great overview thanks Mr B
Very welcome
Thanks Roger, I have now subscribed. I have recently purchased a 993 C2S in Forest Green / Cashmere. It is a tiptronic which I was originally put off by. However, these (S) cars are so incredibly rare here in NZ I went ahead and purchased it. I am now totally enamoured with it and also totally happy with the tiptronic, especially now that I am used to the driving style you deploy with this gearbox. Beautiful car for sure.
you have a great car there Phil, good to hear you subd' 👍🏼
The front lights look the same as the 550 Spyder's , absolutely gorgeous 🇺🇸👍
Wow Roger what a beautiful car.... i’ve got a feeling that could be your best detailed video to date.
I think you’re getting rather good at these reviews . Keep them coming ,great to see.
Chips (Miami blue rocks) 👍
thanks Mr Chips, more are coming :-)
993 is such a looker!❤❤❤
The first Porsche I fell in love with and there was no going back.
Great video
Roger - outstanding presentation on a gem !
thanks Jeffery !
Start to finish a Porsche gem, along with this review, as always great work Roger 🔥👊
really appreciated Joe, best wishes - Roger
Best 993 review ever !
thank you Waseem !
gem of a video, perfect review, and right about the 993
great comment Alan thanks
Stunning example & a c2 whats not to like Rodger ✅
Thanks for the video Roger. I agree that the 993 is beautiful machine. Kind of timeless. Sounds good too!
your welcome Jon
these videos are getting better and better Rodger I learned more about the 911 993
thanks Jake
Well done video. You are spot on regarding a well sorted out 993 and basing it on the care it was afforded by previous owners. Makes all the difference. I purchased my 993 C4 four years ago. Low mileage and well taken care of by the previous two owners in the Pacific Northwest. Considered a similar C2S last year, and yes the price would have shot up by now, but it just wasn't taken care of. Would still like to add a Guards Red/Black C2S to the stable, but the C4 stays! Can't love the 993's enough!
thanks Jeff, yes its a good idea to keep hold of it
I have a C2S. I would have to say your review is completely spot on. Excellent presentation.
Great to hear thanks!
Very nice video and excellent information. One other item to mention about the 993 is to check the door straps. They have a tendency to break at the weld behind the door sill especially on the drivers side as that door gets used the most. The quickest way to identify this is when opening or closing the door there will be a very distinct click, click, click. usually in a series of 3. Then look at the strap when opening or closing and you will see the strap moving. The fix for this is to remove the front fender and spot weld the base of the starp back in place. It can be a costly fix.
thanks, a great bit of information there
Ever since I picked up my 993 last summer I’ve looking forward to you finally reviewing one and you certainly didn’t disappoint! Great synopsis of the character and appeal of these special cars. With so many great 911s out there, the 993 blends it all together for the perfect package for my personal taste. Hope to keep it forever.
You have a great car there 👍🏼
Roger - thought you captured the joy of owning a 911/993 which in my case is '97 C2 in forest green which I've had for 24 years. The only issue I've had is SAI which was from not driving it enough. Good show !
thanks Jim, sounds like you have a nice car
Thanks Rog. Great review.
welcome 👍
I'm sold take my money !!
Well done and although I am running the 964 I just acquired, the advice is spot on...
964 is better looking in my opinion, nice choice.
Thanks and I too agree as to I wasn’t looking for one when I acquired it. I was selling it as it was the Bride’s and I had to work on it as it had been sitting in the garage for years. Well damn if I didn’t write her the check (with profit) for it and spent weeks getting her running again. I really respected the engineering and thus...
Great video, thank you
Fabulous video Roger. Thank you.
thanks Martin 👍🏼
Thanks roger, really enjoyed that.
welcome GH
Great video Roger …..makes me regret selling my 993 carrera 4 it truly is my favourite of the air cooled generation….but they do demand a tremendous amount of up keep
cheers JM yes proper upkeep is essential
Outstanding...
The 993 Turbo is one of my favourite cars of all time! Such a beauty, immense power and rare as hen's teeth. This Carrera is an absolute beast too. I need to drive one again😎
sounding tempted there DashDrones ! .. nice seeing you again
@@RogerBaileyOnCars Extremely, a few more years and they'll be classed as a classic. At the moment in Ireland they're prohibitively expensive to run. Road tax alone is £2,000! Maybe I'm just making excuses 🤣 Hope you're keeping well buddy 👍
Nice summary ... I bought another 1995 993 coupe a few months ago, as the one I owned of the same year, 20 years ago ... glad I did, they are just wonderful, and I intend to keep one this time!
great car to have Peter 👍🏼
1998 993 S for sure but $$$ for the 2S good luck and save up
Beautiful review!
Thank you!
I like your spectator in the background at 7:21 !❤
I love the look of this model.
First Porsche a few years ago was a 964C2 manual. Preferred the shape to a 993 but it
was ultimately underwhelming, it felt heavy and slow which was a surprise so I sold it after a few months (for a profit!). I’ve since had a 996 GT2 then 981 GT4 and now 991.2 GT3 CS PDK. Fantastic machines but all way too fast for the road and too good to bash around a track. The conundrum continues to find the holy grail, light, RWD, enough power to have fun but low enough in grip that it’s fun at legal speeds.
Really appreciated your thoughts on the 993. Only had 2 911s: a 1991 964 Carrera4 and (since last September) a 1996 993 Carrera. Been looking for an Iris blue , manual coupe for ages and then this one turned up last year on Pistonheads! Had to travel from Kent to Yorkshire to get it, but worth the trip. 78K honest miles, full history, new Michelin tyres, discs and pads. A steal at £40000. Wanted to get one of the last air (oil?) cooled ones. Super driving car, love that analogue feel! Keep up the good work, cheers from a very sunny Otford, Kent.
Thanks Neil, sounds like you have a gem
Congrats! Iris blue is one of the best colors for 993 without a doubt. And you were lucky to get it for that price. Impossible in the US.
How do you like it compared to the 964 C4? I also have a 1991 C4 Coupe and was thinking to add a 993
Slightly different cars mate, one 4-wheel drive, the other rear-wheel drive. Both wonderful cars, the C4 gave you a lot of confidence in the wet but to be honest I prefer the C2 because of the uncorrupted steering feel. Horses for courses I guess, but both tremendous drives! Cheers from a (rather chilly) Otford, Kent, UK. @@Surfingandy111
I watched this twice - that good 👍🏼
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Thanks for this video. I have had and enjoy a 1996 C2 coupe for many years. Presently trying to decide whether to spend money to upgrade it or just go with a newer model 911. With current values plus 'healthy' in an upgrade budget I can consider some nice alternatives. I love the small size, excellent view from the cockpit, sound and analog feel. Would the newer cars be a step up or down?
Hi James, thanks for looking in, it seems you need to test drive some newer 911's , if you do let us know which way you swing - Roger
Super review!
Thank you! Cheers!
Had a 993 c4 which I sprinted and then a 993 c2 back in the day swapped it for a f355. The c4 was my preference. Almost tempted again.
Tell us about the F355 compared to the 993.
@@lebojay The 993 C4 had the every day usability and sounded better inside the cabin. The F355 had a sense of occasion but was always a toy and I was always worried about a big bill from tracking it. Very different cars each great. I wasn't really clear above the C4 was my preference over C2 not the F355.
Since 997 Porsche has tried to get back the 993 front design and styling. 997, 991 and 992 are great cars and they look good... don't get me wrong. And performance wise much better cars than the air cooled. But they just can't recapture the ESSENCE of the old 911. First the cars are too big now and the genuine, mechanical response from the road is simply gone. Cars became too good. It's like when digital watches came out everyone wanted a Casio. After a decade people went back to automatic mechanical watches again. They're never as accurate as quartz watches but they have SOUL. You know what I mean? G-model, 964 and 993 still have that genuine "road feel". And 993 is the best looking Porsche ever made and will be even more desirable in the future, there's absolutely no doubt about that.
great points made here
In Australia it's impossible to find a tin top for under approx. $110K USD
I just couldn't bring myself to getting a cabriolet though for the cheaper outlay
Very sad state of affairs
Very nicely done, loving that 993
Great journey back into the last century thanks Roger. To get one I'd have to move as the mayor's ULEZ comes into operation in the autumn robbing Londoners of the joy of owning and driving one of these.
I'm betting that were we fortunate to be treated to another Luftgekühlt on these shores, you'd be amongst the first in line for tickets!!!
Best regards.
thanks, nice to see you again Weenson Oo, - I'd love to go to Luftgekühlt
It would indeed be a blast Roger!!
While I like the multi-link suspension on the 993, I have to admit my dream air-cooled would possibly be a 964 C4 probably because of our inclement weather but sorted with revised suspension etc. While I really do appreciate the svelte lines of the 993, there's something about that old silhouette of the 911. Oh and that air con!!! That's the beauty of these " Porsches anciens ". You can really go to town on them.
Then I'll put in an application to have it displayed at Luftgekühlt :D
What a car !
Agree that the 993 is a wonderful car and MY favorite of the Air-Cooled 911’s. Price is absolutely an issue. Driven back to back with my manual 997 GTS and being asked to plunk down $40k more is a non-starter for me. Zero regrets on the Wasser-cooled club...
993 sweetness , sweetheart. Not enough on the roads. Seldom see one on the move . However isn’t the 996/997 coming good, starting look peachy . Maybe just maybe the 993 wasn’t the sweetest after all. Hmmmmmmm.
looking like 997 has come good 996 on the rise
Amazing car my dream car🙏
My 993 A/C blew Warm When I bought it had It charged and lasted 2 years, It was a Leaking Evaporator a 16 Hour Labor Job. Sorted it out Love the Car Can't Believe it's Mine.
Hi Roger, great video, great car. I got a 944 and always wanted to upgrade. Not ready yet, but 993 and 928gts are my two favorite. Which would be your pick? Thanks
thanks Themis, tough choice but 993 would get my money
993 rules😍👍🏾
❤❤❤love this model classic forever.
Our pleasure 👍
Really good video
Glad you think so!
starting a car video with "some say..." earns you a like
so too your comment 👍🏼
Your British accent, at times, makes it difficult to understand. Perhaps an improved microphone set-up would do the trick. That said, I appreciate the information contained in this upload, Roger. Thank you.
another fantastic video Roger, I think they get better each time, what camera are you using ?
thanks B B I use a Sony A7Siii for most of the scenes, Panasonic GH5 for following car shots, Gopro Hero 7 for internal shots, Sony Action cam for some exterior views and a DJI Mavic Pro2 for aerial shots - well you did ask !
@@RogerBaileyOnCars decent kit then, fair play
Roger, excellent video. It's difficult to find a nice 993 these days. Any preference on the 993? C2, C2S or C4S?
all good - I'll take a C2S given a choice
The time to buy was around 2011. I know because I could have afforded one then, but prices are nuts now.
Do you have any upgrade recommendations? ie. performance, led, etc.
Those are $$$ in S. Cali now.
Beautiful motor I’ve always wanted one but out of reach for me.
I do have a 996 Carrera 2 with a Hartech 3.7 engine rebuild which I love and hope gives me a similar experience
Here in Bromborough if you ever want a drive Roger
996 2 is on my list of cars to drive, be nice to see it at some point
How much of a seat-of-the-pants difference did the displacement increases make?
@@lebojay I didn’t own it beforehand but funny enough I was with the previous owner at the weekend and he says it’s a torque based improvement
C’mon & Please to compare a 996 with the most beautiful Porsche ever built and the last air cooled Porsche the 993. Now if i could not afford a 964 or my fav 993, for sure would love to buy the 996 if in my price range but enjoy.
Hi Roger, I keep coming back to your channel for news about your 992 GT3 which should land very soon. Any updates for us? Regards, Max
Hi Max, thanks for looking in, my GT3 was delayed in production but I'm told its now completed and heading to Port for shipping, 2 or 3 weeks till delivery I'm guessing.
@@RogerBaileyOnCars It's hot enough at night in the UK at the moment... no idea how you're managing to sleep ;-) Very excited and it's not even my car!! Don't worry about putting out too many GT3 videos, I'm sure they will all go down nicely!!
“If you want to understand Porsche, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration”
Love mine ;))
Thanks very nice video and well sad. And Yes as no other air cooled 911 looks/drives better. Buy one now or its soon out of reach. The latest of the best ever special 993 2S manual but $$$
what is the exhaust system modifications on this car....sounds really great! love to know....have had my 993 for 22 years, can't part with it as I have with my 996, 997, 991.2 GT3....also have a 991.2 TTS which is close in beauty to the 993
Gorgeous collection 👍🇺🇸
I'm not sure about the exhaust, it has a link pipe if that helps ..Roger
None
Cars are meant to be driven. Especially porsche.
Good morning Roger!
Did you find one yet? If not, it could be, that mine is the One you have been looking for.
993S, built in 97, german car, unter 100.000 km and always was owned by People like me and he never saw One drop of water.
Since 2004, I am an engineer at Porsche for myself, working in Weissach since then and I became my 993S in 2016 over my contacts at the Porsche Museum in Zuffenhausen due to his extraordinary condition..
Hi Jan, it sounds like your 993 is special, I'd love to see it sometime, my aim is to own such a car - Roger
The coolest Porsche ever.