Mercedes EQE 350+ first ride on US roads! Checking comfort and driving features!
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- This is our Mercedes EQE first ride on US roads!
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00:00 Mercedes EQE overview length and wheels
00:47 Rear-axle steering
01:15 US version rear bumpers
01:25 Is the EQE an E-Class or CLS EV?
01:52 Rear seats
02:02 Interior with optional Hyperscreen
02:33 EQE driving in Los Angeles
02:54 Differences EQE vs EQS
08:25 Steel suspension comfort
09:28 Turning circle with rear-axle steering
09:41 Creep function and recuperation modes
14:13 One-pedal driving vs rolling
23:14 Sound experiences
28:34 Different markets and where it is built
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00:00 Mercedes EQE overview length and wheels
00:47 Rear-axle steering
01:15 US version rear bumpers
01:25 Is the EQE an E-Class or CLS EV?
01:52 Rear seats
02:02 Interior with optional Hyperscreen
02:33 EQE driving in Los Angeles
02:54 Differences EQE vs EQS
08:25 Steel suspension comfort
09:28 Turning circle with rear-axle steering
09:41 Creep function and recuperation modes
14:13 One-pedal driving vs rolling
23:14 Sound experiences
28:34 Different markets and where it is built
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If Mercedes-Benz improved more their exterior designs in their EQ line, they would gain a big percentage of the BEV market, especially in the luxury segment.
Designs are aerodynamic
Yeah, but a lot of people love that Mercedes emblem.
@@franciscoribeiro9103 designs can be aerodynamic and still look attractive. See Lucid, Rivian, Tesla. Heck, just about anyone in the BEV space.
This is downright an intentional move to protect the sales of their gas cars. Germans are losing the electric race and they have themselves to blame
@@franciscoribeiro9103 lol doesn't mean it should be Ugly. Look at audi
You are right, Mercedes new EV exterior is like a joke.
You really put him in the hot seat. Very hard hitting questions from Thomas! I’m shocked you had the courage to ask them!
Thanks! Always trying to get the best out for you!
“We thought about a lot of things”🤣
Hello Thomas. I hope you enjoyed our beautiful Southern California weather!!! Thanks for the video.
Fantastic initial review! Very impressed that they brought so many of the EQS capabilities to this vehicle. Lots of technology! The screens are not my favorite, but perhaps they’d grow on me in time :-) Thank you and travel safe!
I love the quality fit and finish in all of the EQ models! Thank you so much Thomas!
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@@autogefuehl Thank you Thomas!
that was a very interesting and entertaining video, I really enjoyed listening to the engineer explain the philosophy behind the vehicle. He’s very experienced and hope to see him again, thanks again Thomas
This is world class content. Next level. Good job, Thomas!
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I absolutely hate the exterior styling on these ev models.
Stunning review as always 👍
Enjoy in 🇺🇸
Fantastic review 👍🏾 I really like your shoes 👟☺️
If the owner of the eqe (eqs) is basically the only driver of the car, there should be a feature where they can save their personal settings onto their personal key fob, so that even when someone else used the car, the driver with this fob will automatically have his settings and apply them when he starts up.
That's what the fingerprint scanner, facial recognition and different driver profiles is for.
Great job in the interview, but the continued copy paste design of MB is underwhelming.
And thank you Thomas for calling them out on the fact that you have to pay for the 10 degrees of steering over the 4 degrees and there is no change to the hardware. You have to pay for a feature that is already there.
Cheers m8!
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Bottom line is that if I make selections which I save, then they should be saved for next use. As there are no doubt programmable driver settings for the seat etc, then surely they can save my preferences for regen braking and any other selectable settings? Thx, Andy
For the fun factor, as an option, we should be able to turn on different engine sounds from older, and powerful Mercedes from the past for the EQE. One mayor issue in my opinion with electric car drive is missing the sound of an engine. Of course you can turn it off when you get tired of playing ;)
For me nearly perfect. Design, quality and of course the technical aspect are amazing. The only thing is the size on the back seats compared to the chassis size. The point with E or CLS is true...
Can you discuss more in depth the intention of the brand to perform quality OTA for newer functions and or introductions of newer technologies? How agile is the brand's SW development?
Thomas, great line of questions! Next time you talk to a MB rep, can you suggest they let the user's own preferences override the defaults? The car can default to a setting but after a user authenticates with their fingerprint, they should assume that the user isn't being "forced" into D-, it's their own choice. That seems like a reasonable compromise.
Interesting, we’ll test the Eqs this Friday because we are in the market for an EV and the EQE is within our price range. I’m just wondering how the suv on the same platform will look like and when it will be available. Because, seeing this video gives me the impression the eqe isn’t that big on the inside. The legroom,at the back really looks petit.
Been waiting on this to come to the US. I know its going to be in Europe in april. Any idea when the US will get them?
8:05 "Not everyone needs a small turning cycle" 😂
Nice that you showed one pedal driving is possible if you disable creep.
It is funny Mercedes says one pedal drive gives more range than coasting and brake on demand.
Does Mercedes reset the driving mode each time you start the car?
Great video ❤️
Cheers!
So this is the future .. interior imo a lot better than s-class .. it's a shame but that's how it is. Exterieur should keep up with the past sportier designs of MB.
Thx for sharing with us.
Nice car. Appreciated
Default (out of the factory) drive modes are used for the tests because almost no drivers change away from defaults. Customer changes can still be remembered after they change the default without the tests getting messed up... Tesla might use one pedal driving by default, but it will remember preferences for each driver as well...
@Autogefuhl im planning to visit Germany this year for the first time. What places should i go to if im a Mercedes fanatic?
Hey! Mercedes Museum in Stuttgart for sure.
Great "ride". I appreciate all of your relevant questions.
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I always use one-pedal driving mode in my car. I almost never use the brake pedal. I would think they could give the customer the option of maintaining the recuperation settings when the car is shut off.
The problem is legislation. The car was certified in normal recuperation mode so any changes to your range is as a result of you altering a setting and not the manufacturer making a false claim I guess.
Personally I find that the highest recuperation mode requires a very sensitive right foot or you find your speed reducing below what was intended and as a result you then need to accelerate again and in my experience driving my EQC I find it has a negative impact on range and disgruntled passengers due to a jerky ride.
Now you can say simply learn to drive more smoothly and I would agree but just image each time you lift off the accelerator beyond that needed to maintain your speed you get the effect of braking.
What I have found to be effective is to drive with recuperation switched off and then apply it via the paddles as I wish to slow down, releasing it once my target speed has been achieved.
Wow! Time to upgrade from the Tesla. Thanks for the great review Thomas! :)
You need to see the new Audi A6 EV - stunning design .
th-cam.com/video/zZeybx-re7g/w-d-xo.html
Thomas, please show us how to change the HEPA filter yourself, without being forced to go to the dealership. There is a TH-cam channel in the USA that figured out how to open the bonnet of the EQS to access the filter. They found that a bunch of leaves had accumulated on the cabin air intakes. This design makes you have to visit the dealership.
@@Mauled3ffect That’s it! Thank you so much. I forgot how easy it was, but they don’t include any hood struts or springs, because they would cost too much!
An estate version would be a better variant of this car.. will fix the back seat and luggage space problem.
Thomas. I think this is better looking than EQS. How come you cannot test drive EQE in Germany?
Why is the trunk so narrow or does it just look like it on video?
Is that LA?
That's a nice Civic
Great video! One of the big issues current EQS owners have noticed is the inability for US owners to raise/lower the air car using the air suspension. This feature exists in hardware but seems to be enabled only for non-US markets and disabled here. I wonder if the US EQE would also be crippled in this manner and why this is so? Could you help me (and others) find out more about this feature that's been part of AirMATIC for many years now already? Thanks!
PS: If Mercedes is reading these comments - this is a safety issue (I myself have had my car scrape some surfaces and am risking damage to my car which I shouldn't have to) and has already deterred many buyers from getting this vehicle. Please let us supporters and early adopters know about this, please! Remote parking is also another feature that was advertised but is unavailable!
These are due to non availability of chips ! Check out with your local dealer. They must be able to help you out.
@@Ramkumar-cn7cx thanks but nope, that's incorrect. I already have the AirMATIC as well as hyperscreen which includes the upgraded CPU/GPU. Even according to the Mercedes support person I contacted, this feature is geographically limited (they couldn't tell me why or when we'd get the feature). All chip shortage related features are indicated in the vehicle equipment sheet with credit for unavailable items. This seems to be a deliberate software-based feature omission even when hardware is already installed.
@@anibalasubramaniam4153 that's strange for US customers. Since you said remote parking I thought it could be because of the chips.
@@Ramkumar-cn7cx yeah I agree it's strange! As for remote parking, the app is present in the Mercedes Connect but says unavailable for all US users. I believe (and hope) it's a regulatory thing and we'll eventually get an OTA for it.
I'm posting on this forum because unlike some other manufacturers, users have no way to publicly interact with Mercedes. Thomas is definitely sticking up for the users though, judging by the long dialog on recuperation! 👏 Thanks Thomas! Please continue championing our cause!
@@anibalasubramaniam4153 oh yes I understand. That's pain in the ass for US customers. Good luck with that
Will Drive Pilot (L3) be apart of the base offerings for the EQE line and activated via OTA updates?
No
Thanks for the critical question you asked. Does EQE for the US model made in Germany or not? Thank God it is Made in Germany.
Will the EQE AMG53+ show on screen the blind spot for your blinkers or when you get ready to turn on your signals left or right on the screen like in some of the newer EVs coming to market?
U mean a camera image?
@@autogefuehl yes or camera video like in the IONIQ 5 or Tesla Models...
Why not make a E Class Electric with the current E Class styling. The concept is good but the styling is a bit off in my opinion.
The prototype looked so good. 2 more years and it will look better. Could have had a winner.
i prefer to do my own braking. the one pedal driving may be convenient but i dont want to dull my instinct to press the brake pedal for any emergency by depending on the car to do the braking.
Having tested the EQS, I do not appreciate the “rolling” instead of the “recuperation” mode for the following reason : the feeling that you have on the the brake pedal is not good, is not constant, depending on the chosen recuperation mode… You first have the recuperation action (that varies with the amount of selected recuperation level) then the braking action finally coming. Two different sensations while using the brake pedal… I largely prefer to adapt the recuperation using the throttle (almost never have to brake with a Tesla f.e.) and have a consistent brake pedal whenever necessary!! Thx Thomas for this first review of the EQE
Thanks m8!
Chill out. You can choose either
I do engine braking mostly, so I would like it to be similar
Well you found my exes neighborhood. Recognized the view immediately. Pacific Palisades. Should come a little north to Malibu and I will show you my view.
One thing that mystifies me is that only Audi and Porsche have charging sockets on both left and right sides. MB and BMW are alienating a lot of potential buyers, eg some who installed it home charger on the side of the X5 45e socket!
I didn't realize this press car came with the passenger selectable hot seat for the MB rep! Nice job pushing him for all the specifics as the whole regen thing is kinda strange, as you pointed out.
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Want rolling and paddle to put on more regen. Ioniq 5 is nice but doesnt feel optimal either, but yeah rolling if I had to choose between modes.
And hell yeah want the sound of 300 SL, would probably fit more on an smaller sedan or coupe though. 500E though.
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Does it cost hundreds of thousands just to redo the efficiency test with different modes like high regen or sport mode? The current mode can be shown and immediately obviously editable on the zero layer hyperscreen so customer and passengers are extremely aware of the mode, if that is a concern also. It's not very lux to need manually setup a car again and again. And again.
In the video we can see that Mercedes is more worried to please the traditional costumer than attracting new and younger one’s. Thomas made some really good questions and observations, looks like the driver sometimes hadn’t arguments to reply.
It's why they give choices though. You must remember that we're in a transition phase between ice and EV so they have to please traditional buyers first.
Any chance you could get Nico Rosberg as a driving companion the next time you test drive a Mercedes EQ? He is a Mercedes F1 champion after all as well as running his own Extreme E team.
how much will the hyperscreen cost in the US?
6 to 8 k or smth
Since you are in the US
Will you review Tesla model S Plaid, Rivian R1T and Lucid Air Dream?
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With creep/one-pedal drive: didn't they tell you the exact opposite last time?
But good to see it staying in one-pedal mode after a new start.
BTW One-pedal and all the recuperation please! Hate how their mindset is still on ICE in all of that discussion. I completely agree with you, they should also go all the way and let former ICe drivers adjust to it, which doesn't take long.
I think the Mercedes representative is correct on the regeneration. A lot of their customers will be coming from gaseline cars and there will be a learning curve required for one pedal driving.
Theres no break pedal for ev’s?
EV is about the future. Old habit’s die with ICE. I prefer one pedal driving for sure.
Very pretty car
Astralis please?
It would be great to pick a subtle V6 sound for the 350 models to mimic the very subtle smooth and strong sound of their old V6 models. It was lovely. The sound of those engines made the car feel strong and sounded so refined. Then for faster models like the EQS580 you can pick the V8 sound of a normal non AMG V8 like back when an E500 was still available (how I miss those times). For AMG53 models they can make the sound of the inline 6 and 63 models a choice between the old 55 supercharged V8, the NA 6.3 V8, the 5 litre turbo V8 or the 4 litre biturbo V8. It would be glorious. That way we can still have the fun of those and that refined engine feeling Mercedes was known for and we can always remember the great engines.
The engines were part of a brand's identity. Being able to identify a car just by its engine note. I mean why can't it be an option? Choice isn't a bad thing. If I was looking for an EQ model to replace my W212 E350 Bluetec I'd love it to make the sound of that V6 diesel because the sound is glorious.
Will you be driving our big ol trucks? I love seeing Europeans review our mostly exclusive NA monster trucks!
Will there be an AWD non AMG EQE option?
Yes
They should put heat pump to eq models. Thank you!
Yep
I like your rental Kia Rio hahah
Hi Thomas, since all the manufacture are making EV cars, I feel my next car also will be an EV. I know Tesla is like a king, but I really don’t like it’s interior, looks so cheap, but it’s range is more relabel. So Is there a EV car you recommend? price around 100k usd
th-cam.com/video/dEQubj8fETE/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy this linked vid :)
cheers for Thomas asking the unconfortable questions... ALL the unconfortable questions :)
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As good a review as one can expect when you are not allowed to drive yourself. I will make up my mind when you, TeslaBjörn and others have tested it. From what I have understood here in Sweden the various options are VERY expensive...
Thanks 🙏 full review soon!
You should've asked what car Mercedes-Benz benchmarked the EQE against.
How much is one liter petrol in the USA?
Half the cost than in Europe
I would take the Audi A6 e-tron over this without any hesitation. 800V, 10-80% in 18mins instead of 30min (EQE), better design, also it is a liftback -> more practical, estate version will be available, will have a frunk (it's okay to not have it but at least Audi will allow you to open the hood).
That is still a concept car though, let’s see when it comes out
The etron gt looked almost exactly the same as the concept of that car so A6 etron will likely also look very similar to the concept.
Mercedes has a flatter charging curve which is why they did it they way they did.
Another steering wheel with capacitive "buttons"... Give me tactile buttons for the driver... Doesn't look the same cool, but I'll prefer not to be looking at the buttons while driving.
About recuperation, I like how Hyundai lets you go up and down with the paddles.. would be cool to default to intelligent recup, then have perhaps 3 levels of static recup, and one no-recuperation in the other direction.
It's so easy to adjust while driving, when I rented a Hyundai I would up the recup when exiting the speed way to counter my "speed blindness" after hours at higher speeds.
Could also make the intelligent recup adjust according to speed limits... But perhaps give the driver an audio/visual warning when changing.
There are so many possibilities with these new technologies, it's difficult to regulate, however, regulations needs a full review at this point, in all countries. I can only imagine being a QA engineer at Mercedes having to certify the same car with 10 different setups to different markets... Must be frustrating.
Edit: why doesn't the top car manufacturers go together and sketch out a thorough suggestion to all markets? Simply provide a template that governments can start out with and adjust to the local conditions. The politicians in government don't always drive to work themselves, but I know that each of the car manufacturers have their own customer support department that would have a lot of input from customers... And I'm sure that regulations tie their hands in many cases, even when it's not as silly as spaceship sounds.
Yes u can also change recuperating with the paddles - it just resets itself after startup again
Same for Hyundai btw
@@autogefuehl ah, good, haven't tried a Mercedes EV yet... But my preference of tactile buttons still stands. I should be looking at the road,, shame on Cupra for making it difficult to change not only adjusting the distance in adaptive cruise control difficult to do while driving, but also the climate control.
Anyway, I really like the part where you challenge the engineer on more and more silly, tho clever, features. It made the video.
Edit: i don't mind the reset, but I would like intelligent to be the default.. I mean, it's nice to know what to expect when you leave harbor, also on a rental... Perhaps ask another time whether to keep settings? I've tried to get a rental that was in take-off/sports mode.. not the best experience when I wanted to just carry the family a longer distance. Then the paddles can adjust to your driving style... Or AI should be able to read your temper from the way you use the pedals.
Worst I've tried was a Cupra because it's ACC is crazy aggressive. I'm sure it pissed off a few wrong-side overtakers, because once the coast was clear, it'd floor the pedal... And that little car could easily take them out on acceleration... When I ACC, I'd prefer to just lean back to monitor what's going on... But I could not adjust the ACC distance while driving, because that's a setting they have hidden 3 layers down on a touchscreen... That's something I would like to have on the steering wheel, rather than voice control and pick up a call.
Edit: give me buttons, real buttons, related to the act of driving.
Why do you people always bring up one pedal driving? I relate that to a Golf Cart. You'd want to control your breaking, soft or hard with the Break.
Hey I know this place. 😃
That etc tv thing on passenger side is dumb as am Very Surprised they don’t use the System found in ranger rovers etc where by driver can Not see the screen as the screen dose the work Merc making Tech which not needed . Did you ask him about # B/S capacity buttons on steering wheel? Have be honest I prefer the BMW IX dashboard is simple and elegant
Why have the EQS be a 5-door but the EQE has a trunk?
Because of the rear headroom. It would be way less with a fastback opening. However I agree that the EQE should also be a fastback
After all, an Audi A7 e.g. also offer enough headroom so there are solutions…
at 02:40 anyone can tell me the model of the silver coupe mercedes
S-class coupe
@@DanDan-pk6tx it looks sleeker I though it was the upcoming cle
Take a shot every time he says umm
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01:22 😂
Good value for money compared to the EQS, but in Germany still 40% more expensive than the base E-class model.
EV:s are unfortunately still quite overpriced.
Team Rolling … with the benz customer perspective
Audi A6 Etron design is so much more prettier
Overkill on the recuperation topic
Hey thomas , a small request can you may be say 555555 in german?
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@@autogefuehl Sorry ...I just wanted to hear Thomas say fünfhundertfünfundfünfzigtausendfünfhundertfünfundfünfzig and might I add as always great review.
Unlocking features for less money than official option will be a new third party niche. This kind of service has been available for awhile to unlock features on Tesla cars.
26:51 that's the hotel in GTA V.
Which one exactly?
@@autogefuehl the big white building on the top left, but i'm not sure :)
I don't like how these look. They should have had boxy estate at least for people who hate when car looks same from front and back. Petrol MB looks better.
The guy on the left knows more about this car than this one on right.
On which camera? 😂
The way the one-pedal driving is configured is MASSIVE con for me -- as I understand it anyway. I want "full recuperation mode" at ALL TIMES -- and it sounds like it constantly switches itself off.
It sounds like you manually turn it on using the steering wheel, and then if you use it to come to a complete stop, say at a traffic light, it then turns itself back off. It also seems a bit dangerous because If I turn on "full recuperation mode", I may become accustomed to it, and then when it inevitably switches itself off, and I lift my food off the pedal, and don't get deceleration... that is dangerous!
I like weird cars, so I love this car design 😅
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Interior reminds me of a shinier version of my Chevy Spark... Ugly version of eighties styling seems to last forever all over the auto industry...
Surprised strongest regen is most efficient. Doesn’t reflect my experience in other cars. Zero regen by a efficient driver is far more efficient.
#CALIFORNIADREAMING
The fact that the default recuperation can not be set by customer and is not allowed by law is rubbish. In Korean EV-s you can set whichever recuperation level you wish from 0-3 or auto and set it so that it is also chosen next time you turn on the car. And I also do not get the efficiency talk by the Mercedes representative. It should not matter at all at which recuperation level you are. Or does Mercedes not recuperate when you press the brake pedal? Anyway the Mercedes representative did not leave a good impression. Great work by Thomas though! Thanks!
Thanks 🙏 The recuperation reset it might be a thing for you or America it may be different in Korea? When we have Kia or Hyundai EV in Europe, it also automatically resets
I also wondered that the recuperation mode has an effect on the range, because it is essentially just a different method. But I guess they have tried it out
Can't wait to see the SUV version! (Looks less weird!)
Yes, full OPDEEEE :), but not by default :/. Good again you asked so intense. And as you might notice the driver speaks against full OPD and says he prefers using the brake pedal, but easily drives this car with full OPD not changing his right foots position. Cmon Mercedes, let your customers decide what's their preference, by default. No one will accuse you over this.
The trunk seems a bit small because of the room reserved for air suspension and rear wheel steering...
410,000 for that hyperscreen dashboard?.....they can keep it.
What is 410000 that you are talking about ?
Thomas it would be awesome if you could drive the C8 Z06 Coupe in the USA👍😄👍 and will probably sound better than the EU model.
I prefer to look for the strengths and hate to criticise, but I always have the hope that maybe MB scouts are reading along.
Super exciting - what the MB representative calls the good things from the EQS, are the biggest weaknesses in my eyes.
Frankly, the technical side totally excites me, but as a potential buyer I have to say, once again the exterior design doesn't convince me at all and the operation is still a horror.
MB and I will not get together in this generation. I hope they wanted to polarise and that the new E-Class will pick up the regular buyers, but I fear that the really lousy operating logic from the C- and S-Class will also be adopted here. I will definitely put my money elsewhere.