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im a firm believer in the old load bearing gear. like you, I have tried to take advantage of the new innovations. the air force defensor fortis system is a nice harken back to the H harness days. semper fi!
I am a fan of the old military gear, like the web belt, holsters, helmet, Marine camouflage clothing and such, I am a fan of modern items such as MREs, knives, and tarps and tents. A great video as always Corporal Kelly, thank you again.
Hey, anything to stop keeping Miss Alice from kicking your ass, is always a good thing! Then again, this is why I switched to British PLCE... I'd use SADF Pattern 83, but it's kinda difficult to wear a plate carrier with it.
thanks corporal, I just saw this updated video and I have watched the original video several times. after seeing your original video I searched for, located and bought (on-line) all of the gear just as you have (all the same gear and rigged it just exactly the same way as you have done). I've used the rig several times in the field too and I love the rig set-up! before seeing your original video I didn't know about the gear or the rig set-up, but i'll tell you something.....for me this set-up (your same set-up) is exactly the rig for me. as I said, "I love it"! dividing your gear up and supporting it by suspenders and belt (with the fat belt pad)...then using a med to small pack.... that's the way to go for me! many times easier to carry the gear and you carry it comfortably, too. everything is in the right place and supported very well! I love it! so, your sharing and efforts are positively noticed and appreciated by me! many many thanks my friend!!!!!
I have the LC-2 Y harness with the web belt. I attached a butt pack and two large magazine pouches for storage. I like to take it out on my hikes, and I feel its very minimalist when I take it out with me. Your system is great, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for a clear update on how you use your gear. I am about to start and experiment on my newly purchased gear both second hand X military LC2 and Helicon based Y Harness - however the Black Hawk Gear seem interesting also - might try tis at some point in the future. So once gain thank you for the alternative way to carry loads at he waste rather than a back pack all the time, this will help my back and shoulders.
I started out with an LC-2 harness system loaded up for hiking and camping. I ran an original GI belt/butt pack/Canteen pouch/Y-harness for years. In fact I still have it hanging in my closet. As age has started nipping at my heels, I've switched to a wide padded belt as well. The old LC-2 belt just doesn't distribute the weight as well. I'm currently using a Blackhawk padded patrol belt, run through a Maxpedition Sabercat Versipack(I removed the original waist strap), and 2 MOLLE canteen pouches. It's supported by a "Condor" H-harness. The MOLLE on the back of the harness can be used to attach an additional small pack if needed. I will likely never get rid of my old LC-2 system because it is incredibly durable, but for about $250 I've got a system that carries the weight much better and is definitely more adaptable.
Great vid. A friend of mine gave me a set of really early canvas ALICE gear and it's amazing how complex the made it. The 20 round mag pouches have goofy straps on them with hooks that appear intended to [maybe] hook onto the canvas H suspenders. Rides lousy. The later stuff you've shown here with your mods looks very comfortable.
nice mods. I usually frown on ALICE clips because they tend to not want to open as they get older but in this case, they are good to go to save some coin. a field dressing pouch would be a good addition for those wanting important small gear(compass, signal mirror, etc.) quickly accessible.
Kevin Moore - Those field dressing pouches are handy. I have to be sure I really need another pouch before I add one on, because a ounce on the shelf weighs a pound on the trail. A touch of silicone grease will keep Alice clips from binding up. As much as I respect Alice clips for their bomb proof nature they weigh the most of all the fastening options. I braided up two lengths of para cord in cobra stitch pattern to and used them to attach a Maxpedition 10x4 pouch to a Molle system. It worked really well, but the cobra braiding took too much time. Strong zip ties, used in pairs or more are a good option for a semi-permanent system. They don't weigh much, the cost is right and they are easy to R&R.
The LC-2 Y harnesses are awesome! I'm looking for a belt pad. Question... what size is your waist & what size belt pad did you buy for correct fit? Thanks for the video...
Hi, Corporal Kelly, I just stumbled upon your channel and upon this video. Coincidentally I also have a civilian version of a similar set up evolved over the years for light hiking. It's based on the Deuter Hip Pack II, to which I added a set H-suspenders. Great minds think alike...LOL.!
I had forgotten using tape to secure the keepers but we Auld Marines also taped the slider clips. They will work themselves open, especially when new. Semper Fi.
Nice video, have you done one on the contents of this pack? Like to see what fits in it. looks like a great light weight system. Always looking for options. Thanks for the videos, keep it up.
big fan of your videos, Corporal! love this set up. As a female I can tell you we do much better with the weight distributed primarily around the pelvis as opposed to shoulders. and...sort of related, what do you think of adapting the hidden woodsmen haversack to a butt and/or chest pack? doable? worth it?
yes and I agree. In my marine corps days I watched chicks squat 200-250lbs like it was nothing, and YES hidden woodsmen haversack would be cool like that. Thanks for watching
Excellent, tried and trued gear!!! You changes the water bottle holders because they have the pathfinder logo on them!!! Ha Ha HA.... Messing with you bro, great stuff
Nice Survival Belt if you do not want to carry a full Day Pack... Am using my old (but looks new) SOE EDC Belt w/Cobra Belt Buckle for my Survival Belt. And will add soon the smaller Maxpedition Water Bottle Pouch and a Pistol Magazine Pouch to carry Pepper Spray/Bear Spray and spare batteries... Just added the Maxpedition Trauma Kit w/Umbrella Moral Patch and have the SOG Seal Strike Knife w/Tactical Sheath, Leatherman Raptor and the MUT EOD, TQ/Touniquet Pouch and the most important item the Dump Pouch so the zombies will not follow ! For very short Day Hikes and to give the shoulders a rest... tjl
I like that set up. I`ve got the belt and one water bag but can`t find the center bag like yours. Any idea what might work, any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks for the videos.
I hate that they came out with the padded belt lining,yes I have one,but its an admission that we want the padding.(I remember thinking that its for the weak but it makes it wayyy more comfortable).Plus I think it adds a small amount of bouyancy to a bunch of weight if you go in water over wading depth.
2" length of Bike inner-tube (long ranger band) over the keeper - works and lasts longer than gorilla tape. This is an older video, if you've upgraded, never mind me. 😁 On to the next...
You are right, wrong choice of words, sorry - I meant if you ever had to replace it with anything for whatever reason. Eventually, they probably could become hard to find, I would imagine :-) Oh, by the way, I'm a subscriber now! How about that :-)
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im a firm believer in the old load bearing gear. like you, I have tried to take advantage of the new innovations. the air force defensor fortis system is a nice harken back to the H harness days. semper fi!
+Renaissance MarineTV Thank you and thanks for the comments and support
I am a fan of the old military gear, like the web belt, holsters, helmet, Marine camouflage clothing and such, I am a fan of modern items such as MREs, knives, and tarps and tents. A great video as always Corporal Kelly, thank you again.
Aussie Army 90-95 We'd refer to that as 'webbing' and to be pedantic 'patrol order'. Still think it's the best way to carry your shit...
@@maddogmorgan1 yep known as the same here in the UK, or 'belt kit'. British Army 1988-Present. My Dad was RAR and served in Vietnam btw.
Hey, anything to stop keeping Miss Alice from kicking your ass, is always a good thing! Then again, this is why I switched to British PLCE... I'd use SADF Pattern 83, but it's kinda difficult to wear a plate carrier with it.
I love your channel. You always manage to show something in a way I've never seen before!
thanks corporal, I just saw this updated video and I have watched the original video several times. after seeing your original video I searched for, located and bought (on-line) all of the gear just as you have (all the same gear and rigged it just exactly the same way as you have done). I've used the rig several times in the field too and I love the rig set-up! before seeing your original video I didn't know about the gear or the rig set-up, but i'll tell you something.....for me this set-up (your same set-up) is exactly the rig for me. as I said, "I love it"! dividing your gear up and supporting it by suspenders and belt (with the fat belt pad)...then using a med to small pack.... that's the way to go for me! many times easier to carry the gear and you carry it comfortably, too. everything is in the right place and supported very well! I love it! so, your sharing and efforts are positively noticed and appreciated by me! many many thanks my friend!!!!!
+Martina Dejaquiz Thank you now share the tribal knowledge
I have the LC-2 Y harness with the web belt. I attached a butt pack and two large magazine pouches for storage. I like to take it out on my hikes, and I feel its very minimalist when I take it out with me. Your system is great, thanks for sharing!
+Poi159 Thank you for watching
Great setup for a day hike!
Thank you for a clear update on how you use your gear. I am about to start and experiment on my newly purchased gear both second hand X military LC2 and Helicon based Y Harness - however the Black Hawk Gear seem interesting also - might try tis at some point in the future. So once gain thank you for the alternative way to carry loads at he waste rather than a back pack all the time, this will help my back and shoulders.
I have seen the other vid, and I really like this set up. Its good to go!
Love your channel spread knowledge man 👊
I started out with an LC-2 harness system loaded up for hiking and camping. I ran an original GI belt/butt pack/Canteen pouch/Y-harness for years. In fact I still have it hanging in my closet. As age has started nipping at my heels, I've switched to a wide padded belt as well. The old LC-2 belt just doesn't distribute the weight as well.
I'm currently using a Blackhawk padded patrol belt, run through a Maxpedition Sabercat Versipack(I removed the original waist strap), and 2 MOLLE canteen pouches. It's supported by a "Condor" H-harness. The MOLLE on the back of the harness can be used to attach an additional small pack if needed.
I will likely never get rid of my old LC-2 system because it is incredibly durable, but for about $250 I've got a system that carries the weight much better and is definitely more adaptable.
Sounds great, I used the Blackhawk as well and switched back tot he LC-2 Harness.
Great vid. A friend of mine gave me a set of really early canvas ALICE gear and it's amazing how complex the made it. The 20 round mag pouches have goofy straps on them with hooks that appear intended to [maybe] hook onto the canvas H suspenders. Rides lousy. The later stuff you've shown here with your mods looks very comfortable.
Good job cpl. This is the gear i was issued and still use the h harness goess back to late ww2
Nice rig! I tend to like the old gear myself. Tough and inexpensive. :)
+Wasteland Seven I don't fix what isn't broken, just gave it a face lift
Very nice Corporal. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours. Keep up the good work.
+David Gonyeau you too. thanks for watching
nice mods. I usually frown on ALICE clips because they tend to not want to open as they get older but in this case, they are good to go to save some coin. a field dressing pouch would be a good addition for those wanting important small gear(compass, signal mirror, etc.) quickly accessible.
Kevin Moore - Those field dressing pouches are handy. I have to be sure I really need another pouch before I add one on, because a ounce on the shelf weighs a pound on the trail. A touch of silicone grease will keep Alice clips from binding up. As much as I respect Alice clips for their bomb proof nature they weigh the most of all the fastening options. I braided up two lengths of para cord in cobra stitch pattern to and used them to attach a Maxpedition 10x4 pouch to a Molle system. It worked really well, but the cobra braiding took too much time. Strong zip ties, used in pairs or more are a good option for a semi-permanent system. They don't weigh much, the cost is right and they are easy to R&R.
2:45, exactly like the larger Maxpedition water bottle case I have
Great idea and thanks for sharing it!
The LC-2 Y harnesses are awesome!
I'm looking for a belt pad.
Question... what size is your waist & what size belt pad did you buy for correct fit?
Thanks for the video...
Hi, Corporal Kelly, I just stumbled upon your channel and upon this video. Coincidentally I also have a civilian version of a similar set up evolved over the years for light hiking. It's based on the Deuter Hip Pack II, to which I added a set H-suspenders. Great minds think alike...LOL.!
nice modifications thanks for sharing
I don't even know why I love these videos haha
Outstanding AF
Got me one, luv it
Thanks for showing the modlflcations... I'll use them on my butt pack! Happy holidays!!! --- Clark
I had forgotten using tape to secure the keepers but we Auld Marines also taped the slider clips. They will work themselves open, especially when new. Semper Fi.
Nice video, have you done one on the contents of this pack? Like to see what fits in it. looks like a great light weight system. Always looking for options. Thanks for the videos, keep it up.
big fan of your videos, Corporal! love this set up. As a female I can tell you we do much better with the weight distributed primarily around the pelvis as opposed to shoulders. and...sort of related, what do you think of adapting the hidden woodsmen haversack to a butt and/or chest pack? doable? worth it?
yes and I agree. In my marine corps days I watched chicks squat 200-250lbs like it was nothing, and YES hidden woodsmen haversack would be cool like that. Thanks for watching
I have similar set, only using M-56 pouches/attachments dating back to 60's.
+M1mare Old School. Thanks for watching
Excellent, tried and trued gear!!! You changes the water bottle holders because they have the pathfinder logo on them!!! Ha Ha HA.... Messing with you bro, great stuff
Nice Survival Belt if you do not want to carry a full Day Pack... Am using my old (but looks new) SOE EDC Belt w/Cobra Belt Buckle for my Survival Belt. And will add soon the smaller Maxpedition Water Bottle Pouch and a Pistol Magazine Pouch to carry Pepper Spray/Bear Spray and spare batteries... Just added the Maxpedition Trauma Kit w/Umbrella Moral Patch and have the SOG Seal Strike Knife w/Tactical Sheath, Leatherman Raptor and the MUT EOD, TQ/Touniquet Pouch and the most important item the Dump Pouch so the zombies will not follow ! For very short Day Hikes and to give the shoulders a rest... tjl
I like that set up. I`ve got the belt and one water bag but can`t find the center bag like yours. Any idea what might work, any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks for the videos.
Fireforce 8054 on Amazon for 49 bucks I just bought one haven't got it yet but looks like a good replacement
Fireforce 8054
In like your ideas. My bug out bag has gotten a little bit heavy.
+Jenny Jackson take out what you don't need, you can do more with less. Thanks for watching
Sir what should I put in my mini rothco Alice pack
thanks for sharing
Hi Cpl. Thanks for sharing - it is appreciated. Is there anyone who has not modified their kit?
+pnyarrow lol. who knows, BTW I love ur hack videos. Thanks for watching
+Corporals Corner Hi Cpl. Thanks for the kind comment.
great system everyone should have one i have mine ride low so I can use it with my med Alice pack
+Amra Survival The important thing is to find out what works for you. thanks for watching
Wish it was raining here. lol
I hate that they came out with the padded belt lining,yes I have one,but its an admission that we want the padding.(I remember thinking that its for the weak but it makes it wayyy more comfortable).Plus I think it adds a small amount of bouyancy to a bunch of weight if you go in water over wading depth.
+Barrier Island Bushcraft Every little thing counts. Thanks for the comments
Im all so working on mixing some of the mosin. Gear with us. Gear. For my mosin whay are your thoughts
2" length of Bike inner-tube (long ranger band) over the keeper - works and lasts longer than gorilla tape. This is an older video, if you've upgraded, never mind me. 😁 On to the next...
What type of D-Ring / Carabiner is that?
Great video Cpl! Can this setup be used with an ALICE pack?
+snakemonkey555 don't see why it couldn't
I found an H harness from 1956 in good condition for $14
Love this , and have watched it at least 15 times.....butt packs are outstanding .ooooooya
Great load bearing system, dude! If you had to replace the butt pack with something more modern, what would you choose?
The Blackhawk Butt Pack that I showed in the video is modern, however it is now discontinued, look on ebay or Amazon. Thanks for watching
You are right, wrong choice of words, sorry - I meant if you ever had to replace it with anything for whatever reason. Eventually, they probably could become hard to find, I would imagine :-)
Oh, by the way, I'm a subscriber now! How about that :-)
Thanks for the support
Nice Sir
Old school is always better.
Great setup! I've been looking all over for that buttpack and cannot find it. Any idea where to find one?
+Brian Garland They are discontinued, check amazon or ebay, thanks for the support brotha
Put it on maybe?
Why a Y - harness, instead of H - harness
The best way to modify a "Y" harness is to throw it away and replace it with an "H" harness.
opinions vary. Thanks for watching
True. No problem.