Sanchin Dai Ni (the original Sanchin)

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  • @abd41
    @abd41 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for the excellent tutorial on this very important kata

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so so much! We are grateful to be able to contribute to karate in this way 🙏

  • @danielschimmel8779
    @danielschimmel8779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I learned Sanchin in the early eighties and my school emphasized slow and strong dynamic tension. I would be winded and sweating (even in the winter cold in the Dojo) after just one go through. The method of breathing I was taught is called Valsalva or Ibuki in Japanese. Studies have shown breathing this way is dangerous due to high blood pressure. Old school goju-ryu masters died earlier than other styles.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is very true! We sometimes see glimpses of people still breathing the very hard way, and unfortunately, old habits die super hard. We can and must adapt our karate to incorporate the knowledge we are gaining now. In many ways, karate already complements much of what we are learning about physiology, but you're right - when we learn something is bad for us, we must let go of it. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - we appreciate it!

  • @STBRetired1
    @STBRetired1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I studied Goju-ryu in 1967 at Syracuse, NY under Sensei Peter Musacchio. Now as I approach my 80th birthday, I wanted to relive and relearn some of that teaching I had way back then. But every TH-cam video I watched just didn't seem right for Sanchin kata - until I saw this video. Apparently Uechi-ryu has a different Sanchin kata as do some of the other Okinawan styles. I'm glad I found this one that I've been looking for. I believe Sensei Musacchio learned his karate in Okinawa probably in the early 1960's or late 1950's. I think he was in the Air Force and stationed there.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know, it's the comments like these that truly inspire us to keep on doing what we're doing. It is a little disheartening sometimes to see other karate channels do so well with, well, let's just say shallow content. But knowing that we are providing value to practitioners around the world, and that our videos are so appreciated, makes all the editing and hard work worthwhile.
      Our best wishes to you, all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @abd41
    @abd41 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of the best Sanchin kata performances I’ve seen in awhile.

  • @karatemom24RedHawk
    @karatemom24RedHawk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am only a small member right now but consider you my Sensei as I am residing in Istanbul right now, a third dan black belt through Kansas City's Integrity Martial Arts since 2017. I am learning traditional Goju Ryu through your school online and practicing privately (my preference right now). What fun your classes are for me! Thank you to you and Zoe (who I also watch).🤜🤛✊

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, we are so honoured to be your Sensei! We are trying to figure out the best way to do classes for our members - Zoom just isn't the best way! If you have any suggestions for platforms etc, please let us know.
      Thank you for your kind words and your support - we truly, truly appreciate it

  • @karatejutsudojosociety
    @karatejutsudojosociety ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video, our Goju-kai friends do this version.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always love to share with our friends in the Goju Kai world

  • @delljohn2245
    @delljohn2245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned this kata some 35 years past. Excellent explanation of the variations, of which I have observed yet only understand more now. Arigato Sensei.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for this kind and thoughtful comment, and for taking the time to watch our videos 🙏🏻

  • @ClbnaVGM
    @ClbnaVGM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent stuff ! Thank you. I'll check the structure/anatomy videos as well. Oss !!!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for this lovely comment! The anatomy videos are so far back in our history, the production quality isn't great 😅 but it might be worth redoing them at some point. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 🤗

  • @daveokeefe31
    @daveokeefe31 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello Sensei, very nice Kata and explanation. I learned the version you did in this video (was told this is the Higashiano Kanryo original version he taught before Chojun Miyagi Sensei modified for health reasons as you said. So I’ve learned both versions. I have had to adjust the last part to different Sensei’s, usually had to strike between 5-7 repetitions before closing out the kata. Also, one traditional Sensei required much more dynamic tension breathing, while another did not, much closer to your version. As you said, I adjusted as required by my Sensei. Thank you.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Dave,
      Truly you are the best kind of student - open to different ideas, doing what is asked but also having a questioning and respectful approach. The kata is a living textbook, and as such exists in different variations and versions all over the world, changed by the minds and bodies it passes through. This is how I prefer to think of kata - some people think of it like a preserved butterfly, pinned onto cardboard. Beautiful, but dead.
      Thank you for this lovely comment!

  • @ulimuller8830
    @ulimuller8830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good explanation for beginners to practice this basic kata.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is one of those katas that is easy to learn, but takes a lifetime to master! Thank you for the kind words :)

    • @ulimuller8830
      @ulimuller8830 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre Cierto, Cierto.....

  • @theodoroseidler7072
    @theodoroseidler7072 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very similar to the basic version in Kenyu-Ryu I was trained in. There is also a Sanchin Key version that attacks / defends in 4 directions. Thank you!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, I didn't know about the 4 direction one! (Well, I'm sure my husband Ché does, but I'm the one that responds to the comments lol)
      I shall do some research - might make an interesting video some day.
      Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - we appreciate it!

  • @CoradiniSensei
    @CoradiniSensei ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good!
    A basic and one of the most important kata in goju-ryu.
    My sanchin is in the same way, we have some variations and it's normal... But in the end, every goju-ryu's sanchin is sanchin.
    Osu 🇯🇵 🇧🇷🤝🏼🇿🇦

    • @CommanderTaylor-k9l
      @CommanderTaylor-k9l หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is absolutely nothing basic about Sanchin. Sanchin, actually is the most important kata in the Goju-Ryu system. It is the bedrock of every kata in the syllabus. It is the common denominator between the 4 classical kata of Goju-Ryu. Sanchin, Sanseru, Seisan and Suparimpei. On Okinawa, we train on hojo undo, junbi undo, ude tanren and Sanchin for at least 3 years before moving on to anything else. Without Sanchin, there is no Goju-Ryu.

  • @kai-uwebartl8439
    @kai-uwebartl8439 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really good made, Greetings from Germany 😊

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much! We are trying our best to improve our quality every time we make a new video 🙏🏻

  • @mei-lihauyon-caligraficas
    @mei-lihauyon-caligraficas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Espectacular!!excellent explanation thank you very much!!the best I founded!!!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, such kind words! Thank you, thank you! We are so honoured to know that our work is appreciated

  • @camiloiribarren1450
    @camiloiribarren1450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Sanchin I’ve always been taught a low Sanchin stance, three or five punches before the double open hand pull, have the Kosudachi low and very pronounced breathing; cutting the exhalation at the end of the punch.
    Helps a lot when tired or when starting to train at the dojo
    I like your way of doing it. Very nice

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Such a clear, detailed explanation! And its so nice to have people sharing their variations in the comments as just that: variations. There shouldn't be The One True Way, because who gets to decide that? Even in our own practice we have variations, and expecting everyone to do it the exact same way every time everywhere is just so boring.
      Thank you for the lovely comment!

  • @nurbaiti_hikaru
    @nurbaiti_hikaru 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your explanation.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - we appreciate it!

  • @Juju-dt4fc
    @Juju-dt4fc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this video and the little explanation on the story of the two sanchins and why Miyagi sensei created sanchin dai ichi. It was a small point that wasn't clear to me between "Chojun Miyagi no sanchin" (dai ichi) and "Kanryo Higaonna no sanchin" (dai ni). I knew dai ni was historically first, but not the reason dai ichi appeared next.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Context is everything in karate, and the more we study Sensei Miyagi's life, the more our karate makes sense 🙏🏻 thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 🤗

  • @SteveDowney
    @SteveDowney ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my school we've also been shown a variant of Sanchin with open spear hand strikes in the second pass.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, that's so cool - we love hearing about variations across the style, and exploring what the bunkai could be. Thank you for watching and commenting!

    • @jwlavasse
      @jwlavasse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GojuRyuKarateCentreWith open hand strikes and 3 mawashi uke's to the sides then front thisbl would be near identical to Uechi Ryu sanchin. I strongly suspect there was some intersection of Goju-ryu and Uechi Ryu at some point in the past, despite what the official histories of the styles say. Thank you both for sharing. 🙇‍♂️

  • @JohnSeaward
    @JohnSeaward 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many many years ago I brought my boys , to shihan Sid snarr's dojo in haileybury ont. And my oldest boy was one of his stellar star pupils who not only attended the kids class but also right afterwards attended the adults class and towards the end of his training Jason attended a dojo in Niagara falls where the instructor there fell in love with Jason's abilities and the one Kata he did for pre class warm up was what was known to us as the sanctioned breathing Kata which is very similar to what you have shown here, and I will say this and that doing this Kata really does work every muscle in the body and is one that requires total focus, only thing I've ever said to the boys while training and doing katas is did it feel right and how do you feel with each movement which has a significance, I never had to push them to the training but made them think first about why they wanted to train and what was the best way or reason to use this for , but anyhow love the video brought back many memories keep up the good work, and just a silly question but do you know how many variations of this Kata are there that you know of ?

  • @ДмитрийЗорин-я2п
    @ДмитрийЗорин-я2п 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the author's approach to the criticism! I'd like to write a lot more of the "criticisism"', but can't after those words in the end! :)

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, thank you so much! We try to keep it real around here, as best we can 🙇🏻‍♀️

  • @toninhade164
    @toninhade164 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Muito boa a sua explicação e a maneira que executa os movimentos lentamente… dá para aprender. Gratidão.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, thank you so much for the kind words! We try our best to make karate accessible to all 💪

  • @joari123
    @joari123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent instruction, thx! 👍😊

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, Jo Ri! Always nice to see you in the comments :)

  • @terrysanders2817
    @terrysanders2817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well displayed!

  • @CommanderTaylor-k9l
    @CommanderTaylor-k9l หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video. As I am looking at the comments, I am wondering why so many people are viewing Sanchin as a beginning or basic kata. It is the absolute, most important kata in Okinawan karate. Especially Goju-Ryu. Without Sanchin, there is no Goju-Ryu. It is the bedrock. I have been under my Shinshi's instruction now for going on 30 years and we train Sanchin even more intensely. I only trained Sanchin, hojo and junbi undo, ude tanren for a good 3 years before I moved on to anything else.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, a karate-ka of fine taste and knowledge! Yes, people mistake the 'simple' sequence for being easy, but I've spent 18 years on this kata and I've _barely_ scratched the surface. Goju gives up its rewards slowly, but once we start earning them, they are incredible.
      Thank you for this truly lovely comment!

    • @CommanderTaylor-k9l
      @CommanderTaylor-k9l หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre You are very welcome for the comment. I have trained Goju, Shorin and Ueichi-Ryu. All of these systems have their version of Sanchin and they are basically the same, give or take a few movements here and there. Shorin Ryu doesn’t have a Sanchin kata but they use the Naifanchin katas as their Sanchin. You are right, Goju gives its rewards very slowly. But I wouldn’t trade it for the world. I train Sanchin every morning and every night. I see Sanchin in every Okinawa kata. I was fortunate enough to get connected to a family on Okinawa and they have opened up the authenticity of Okinawan karate. The true Chinese roots. It’t amazing. I like your channel.

  • @PetrusNicolai
    @PetrusNicolai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting! I didn't know there was a Sanchin Ni, because in Goju Kai there is only this version of Sanchin lol.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is interesting that some styles leave it out of the syllabus! I think that you can get by without it, but as a historical kata, its important to at least know it exists :)
      Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - we appreciate it!

  • @oldschoolkarate-5o
    @oldschoolkarate-5o ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thnx Sensei, Sanchin kata was my Sensei , (Guy Kurose, rip 🙏🏽) favorite kata also my favorite kata i practiced it yesterday after work

  • @bobblav3446
    @bobblav3446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No the spirit is 'here; in your modesty :p je trouve que vous pratiquez dans un excellent esprit. Merci pour ce post. je repart m'en inspirer ;)

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, thank you for these beautiful words! Humility is the basis from which we can learn, and I find it amazing that my husband is still so humble and open to learning after 42 years of training. Thank you for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment 🤗

  • @richardbartlett8038
    @richardbartlett8038 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fully understand your problem with your septum and trying to breathe. I had my nose broken three times and just could not breath out of the left nostril. At night when i was asleep i used to sound like a dying animal thankfully i had a operation to straighten it and now i can breath perfectly normal again.Something for you to consider and consult your doctor over.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is definitely something worth considering! We are lucky to be close to great doctors - the trick is trying to get Ché to go get the op! But I'm hoping that the more people comment with similar stories, the more he'll be convinced it is worth it ;)
      Thank you so much for watching and commenting!

  • @joaofernandes6995
    @joaofernandes6995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. Love all the 3 of you. Amazing job you're doing.
    Allow me Che just to point out something on your sanchin dai ni performance.
    It's that after stepping you should not move the still foot, and you almost always correct the stance. Other one is that your sanchin dachi seems to wide.
    Thanks again. I'ved used a lot of your videos as a mirror and it's fantastic the knowledge for other styles that you expose.
    Keep at it. Thanks.

    • @joaofernandes6995
      @joaofernandes6995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yamaguchi Goju line. Portugal.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the tips! We are always open to feedback, as that is how we grow as practitioners. Thank you for the kind words, and we hope to see you in our comments again!

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing lineage!

    • @joaofernandes6995
      @joaofernandes6995 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've wrote a error in my tip. You always correct the still foot after stepping and we should not.

  • @deathspawn54
    @deathspawn54 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have only learned sanchin as the sanchin dai ni version, in both substyles of Goju Ryu I have trained, currently training under a shorei-kan dojo

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's so interesting! The Toguchi line is an important lineage, and we love to hear from our friends in other Goju schools. Thank you for watching and commenting 🤗

  • @Burvedys
    @Burvedys ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not so heavy anymore as I've lost a couple of kilos for summer. So what do I know to discuss here... Good explanation of kata as always.
    I may add few cents adjusted for inflation that the spelling of sanchin as battles is more recent (like 100 years is still recent) and romanticized version for military gloryfication times when Japanese Empire was preparing for the ultimate war (as few previous were too good for them beating Koreans, Chinese, and Russians). So as sanchin-gata is heishu-gata (fundamental, i.e. to built a fundament for your further techniques working on structure or gamaku in the first place), it's name should be spelled as three tensions (sounds the same but more practical meaning). But I repeat myself, I guess.
    Dai ni version is a "proper" sanchin-gata, of course. First sanchin is more of kihon for massive training of students (and pupil in secondary schools) before and then along gekisai kata (actually sanchin and two gekisai are enough as basics to go on conscription and beat your comrade Japanese for them trying to bully you as Okinawan and secondary citizen); and tensho is Ju (soft) version of heishu-gata because it's always Go and Ju in Goju-ryu (sorry for Miyagi's pun).
    And I have no clue if Morio had any clue talking about stepping back in this kata at all.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha, " military gloryfication times" - very much so. And I think tensions more accurately describes the kata, which is a huge balancing act between all the different parts. I love Sanchin, but it doesn't love me, and it'll probably be that way until I die lol.
      As always, a treasure trove of knowledge - the impact of mass training on how katas look is often overlooked.

    • @Burvedys
      @Burvedys ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre it's more Japanese and Okinawans tried to be in their trend. Nowdays they're back to their traditional nuchi-du takara idea.

    • @Burvedys
      @Burvedys ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre -chin is more of a tension in other kata with this suffixe: sanchin has one type, seiyinchin has another and shisochin obviously yet another. I don't know if I haven't written this already. And it's not about some battles in these two kata, methink.

  • @GiC7
    @GiC7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for your kind words, @GiC7!

  • @Kwenziweokuhle
    @Kwenziweokuhle 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pls do nisaychi

  • @themadrazorback2019
    @themadrazorback2019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always working on lung volumes...well said Sensei... Ever get a chance to get that deviated septum fixed you will be Superman.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว

      Please tell him - a bunch of people have said that it will be life changing!

    • @themadrazorback2019
      @themadrazorback2019 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre Was life changing for me. Highly recommend it.

  • @glandeokrayo9956
    @glandeokrayo9956 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right at the beginning, shouldn't the angle between the feet in musubi dachi be 90 degrees? This way the transition from musubi dachi to geiko dachi wouldn't require any adjustments...

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So for us, musubi dachi is always a 45 degree angle, but this is a really good point! We will give it a try and get back to you :)

  • @robertwelch3240
    @robertwelch3240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is what we do in Kenbukan Goju.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to quickly refresh my memory - I see Kenbukan is the Toguchi line! So cool to see that different lineages can still share and agree on the same things :)

  • @victorgf87
    @victorgf87 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You did it like 83 times faster than we do in my dojo, hahaha

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When we got feedback from our visiting instructor from Okinawa, he told us we go too fast 😅😅😅

    • @victorgf87
      @victorgf87 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre hehe, luckily we have near a 10th dan hanshi that is my master's sensei, and keeps the traditions as pure as possible. (And who I can proudly say that is my Kobudo sensei, so I have experienced his methods directly and I can confirm) Amyway, I was not saying that your video was wrong, neither I am nothing else than a rookie in karate. Good video btw :)

  • @thunderroadadventures9533
    @thunderroadadventures9533 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sanchin every morning

  • @MrGranovski
    @MrGranovski 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9th dan?

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m a lowly 5th Dan only

    • @MrGranovski
      @MrGranovski 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GojuRyuKarateCentre That's quite impressive. Goju is a gem among the karate styles.

  • @samirkadiri7413
    @samirkadiri7413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Translation recover the screen. We can in 80% of the video just the translation text.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Since this video, we've decided not to put subtitles on the original video, and instead rather just edit the TH-cam auto-sub titles. Thank you for the feedback!

  • @jonasjpm1989
    @jonasjpm1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legal

  • @ljubomirtadic3972
    @ljubomirtadic3972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tadić

  • @vijaybansod186
    @vijaybansod186 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is for fighting.

  • @Ray-qb7tk
    @Ray-qb7tk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no Sanchin Dai Ni. There is only one.

    • @GojuRyuKarateCentre
      @GojuRyuKarateCentre  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In our style, there are two. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment

    • @Juju-dt4fc
      @Juju-dt4fc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It depends on the style, the federation, etc. Sanchin is a kata practiced in many forms of karate. In any case at the IOGKF and the TOGKF, we have both forms.