+TGGeko Eh, sometimes all it takes is just to take their argument, phrase it a little differently (without changing the actual meaning, just the phrasing) and the argument debunks itself.
To argue the 10% of M&Ms are poisonous. You take out one M&M test it for poison, then eat or throw away. Just like we do with people. You met them, test their views, then decide if you want to interact with them more or not. To do otherwise would be judging people on how they look.
that is way too logical. throw all m and m's in fires of hell along with the factory that made them, the people that designed them, anyone who briefly suggested maybe we should try to pick out poisoned one to enjoy the good ones. this solution is better.
Well, at least when they're presenting an argument. Outside of that, I, for one, couldn't care less how they act. Fewer things are more annoying than a shrill lunatic that won't either listen to or employ any reason when debating.
JoeNietzsche Agreed. Some people simply cannot be reasoned with despite presenting them with sound, valid arguments. They just want to scream their opinion as if it's fact despite any evidence to the contrary.
"Now, I think men will be forgiven for finding the whole thing quite insulting." No. No we will not. Instead we will be insulted some more, yelled at, demonized and accused of derailing the conversation or misogyny! EDIT: Fixed spelling.
Biggsy DaOneTrueKing Let's avoid the gross generalizations where we can. As the video producer here proved, feminism in academia has and can continue to be rooted strongly in logic and reasoning.
Bartholomew Klick LOL ... you have no idea. That woman is Christina Hoff Sommers! Thanks to her use of logic and reasoning and quest for equal rights,she is admired by MRAs and seen as a "gender traitor" by the RadFems. She is a member of "The Old Guard" sometimes called "True Feminists" ... I fear there are too few of them left to save us!
spuhtanous combatment In fact feminists consider and label her an anti-feminist. Sooo yeah. Fine. I'm an anti feminist too. Unless you ignore the 'no true scotsmen' fallacy.
+spuhtanous combatment Yes this is perhaps one small point where I disagree with Christina HS. She is trying to make herself seem more acceptable by calling herself a feminist. However feminism is fundamentally flawed and it can't be "recovered". Feminism in all it's forms is a lost cause. We should all learn by this that we need to treat men and women truly equal and place equal emphasis on both, even when one appears to have all the power. In other words we should bury feminism completely and focus on true egalitarianism.
#YesAllWomen received a tremendous amount of attention in the wake of the Isla Vista killings, but the facts did not. The Factual Feminist looks at the numbers behind the hashtag, and reveals some surprising data that shows you may have been misled.
Two very simple improvements to this video series: 1) Put a link to the playlist in the video description of every video in the series. 2) Put links to all sources of each video in its description.
I would be happy to call myself a feminist, if this is the sort of skeptical, rational yet pragmatic and concerned worldview it represents. Great video as usual Christina. :)
Brendan Beckett I will believe that feminism is for gender equality when I see organized feminism championing as a cause a men's issue that does not also affect women. When a feminist lobbying group champions funding for a shelter for the 50% of domestic violence victims who aren't female, for example. Or when a feminist group starts campaigning and protesting against the fact that women get lighter sentences than men despite committing the same crime. Or when a feminist group goes just as ape-shit over a female teacher having sex with her underage student as they do when its a man having sex with an underage girl. Hell, I'd even believe it if organized feminism took as much time to put muzzles on their more extreme members (the ones who really are dyed-in-the-wool man-haters) as they do turning such people into folk heroes.
J What you just did there is what intelligent people call a "Red Herring". A "Red Herring" is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form: Topic A is under discussion. Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A). Topic A is abandoned. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim. Now, would you care to address the point, or do you want to dodge it some more?
Yeah, we should be forgiven for finding it insulting. Unfortunately, we're not being forgiven. Instead, we're being told that anger at being insulted in this way is not an appropriate reaction, and that an appropriate reaction would be just sitting there and taking it.
Well said. A lot of feminists today like the ones that compare men to poison are literally discriminating. Its just as bad as racial discrimination yet we are just supposed to sit here and take it? Nope no.
J Your inability to recognize when someone is using sarcasm, as Paul Elam did in the article you are referring to, is noted. I also note your inability to cite an entire quote, or to include the context of that quote. For the record, the whole quote is as follows: "If you listen to the 'Teach Men Not to Rape' segment of feminism, you come away thinking that all men are complete animals who cannot control their sexual desires and who thus need to be muzzled when going out in polite company, lest they attack and ravage the first woman (or girl, for that matter) that they encounter." The fact that you intentionally failed to note that, when Elam said this, he was talking about the statements of noted feminists, and were intentionally lying when you tried to imply that these were Elam's attitude, shows that you are an intellectual coward, dishonest, and a liar. A typical unthinking feminist, in other words.
Jack Butler I believe that according to feminists (male or female) the appriopriate answer to the slander and the smears is to "sit down, STFU and listen" (to your betters, I guess).
I love the comment you made that these issues are too important to leave in the hands of careless journalists and TV pundits. We live in a society that puts far too much weight into the credibility of anyone on TV.
Well, the news media used to take their function as a pillar of democracy much more seriously (it was never perfect or even very good but, compared to today's news media, which is an absurd circus, they were a collection of saints back then). As a result of that history there is a lingering degree of respect. Maybe one day journalism will be worthy of it again but for now - nope, not even a little.
We also live in a society that forces itself to overcompensate for perceived victimhood. Hence, SJWs. Victimhood is powerful. Victimhood is vindicating. Victimhood allows people to narrow their scope of vision, which just leads to a perpetual cycle.
You know, I've heard of your videos before, and checked into your one about Anita Sarkeesian's video series, and I find that you are quite an intelligent person, as well as quite respectable. You understand that people have to be responsible for their own actions, while also knowing how to deal with those who impose upon others. Thank you so very much for your sobering voice and logical understanding of research. :)
Do we in todays world still need feminists? I'm all for equal rights, but feminists sound like Muslims, they don't wan't to be criticized. My point; humanism > feminism.
"Feminist" is technically the word used for people that are for gender equality. The word "feminist" sounds as though it would only be in support for women, however it really promotes equality. A different term might be in order, but I think people just need to be more aware of the feminists out there that aren't shaming men for holding a door or offering to pay for dinner. The good feminists are in the majority, however people only hear about the irritating ones.
If you ask me, I think accounting for differences are an important factor to consider and are the natural flaw of humanism. It's really impossible to treat everyone the same; they come from different backgrounds. They are raised with different prejudices and different sources of identity. Humanism is a movement that ignores the differences in people. A variety of movements that protect the interests of people that are relevant to the cause, such as feminism, are much better than a movement that benefits everyone at once because these movements exist to address issues each demographic has as a specific. Humanism itself, if it was organized, would be much like congress. Every different demographic has different interests, it'd be put to vote, and majority would rule. That majority, btw, would be a specific race and gender within the organized movement, and thus would poorly represent minorities which might have an entirely different set of issues they would like considered by their representatives. You could argue that a group of movements arguing over who gets what is another representative of congress, and as things are now the law can more easily ignore groups that are smaller and more poorly represented, however, as things stand now, different movements are getting stuff done. A lot of the good we're doing now with separate groups, such as groups that support African Americans or, again, feminism, would never get done with organized humanism, and that is why it's an inferior system.
our initial premise is incorrect, humanism and by extension egalitarianism doesn't ignore that people are different. honestly its been my expoerence that feminists are the ones that wont admit people are different.
Thank you so much for saying something that needs to be said. Violence against women is deplorable, but so is violence against anyone. You rock Factual Feminist! We need more voices like yours.
This women is just absolutely amazing. The world needs more people like this, someone who doesn't believe every piece of garbage that the media spews out.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! You are singing my song! Keep it up, and I will be looking at your other videos in the near future. This made my day. What a breath of fresh air! The fear my feminist friends feel when they walk outside their door, that they have a statistical inevitability of being assaulted, is a real fear. But they don't understand that this fear has been fabricated by a very few vocal feminists, and is not in any way based on the actual likelihood that they will experience an assault. These misleading statistics do nobody any good regardless of gender, and serve only to drive a wedge between men and women when we should be allies instead. Please keep speaking out; you are amazing!
I love your videos. I've been having some doubts about a lot of the sensationalist feminist sound bites I've been hearing, but I find the Men's Right's Activists, at least all the one's I've encountered online, to be just be misogynistic men hoping to vent their sexism. Your videos are informative and level-headed and a breath of fresh air.
You've definitely got your head screwed on. I've got a problem though, it's with feminism and equality. Feminists claim to want equality for women but even the act of claiming to be feminist already separates them from men and destroys any equality. You can't be feminist and want equality. Feminism is all about women, it's right there in the name. A decent example of what I'm talking about is the relationship between atheists and religious people (is there an ism/ist word for that?). A religious person can never claim to be atheist because their views go completely against atheism and vice versa. If you want to have views or ideas that are aimed at equality for both men and women, don't call yourself a feminist. If you really want to have views or ideas tailored for equality, call yourself an equalist, or anything similar. Your views will be much better presented that way.
Finally a feminist I can support. Well done for exposing this insanity. I hope, at least, some so called feminists change their views upon seeing this.
Well my _left_ ear is lonely, but that's only because I have to flip my headset around. My desktop layout, and personal preference, places the mic (which according to the markings is the left side of the headset) on the right side of my head.
I remember my time in HR advising on disciplinary matters. Very often an employee would be accused of perpetrating a racist or sexist act of misconduct. The selected witnesses would then give their opinions (but not facts). Then as per my duties I would advise the disciplining manager that opinions on their own cannot be used as evidence in disciplinary hearings. Following the failed disciplinary hearing, the team rebuilding would take days possibly weeks if ever to put right. These extreme feminists are like locusts and destroy everything they touch.
You mam are absolutely fucking incredible. The truly unfortunate thing however, is that it took your clips being posted on a forum regarding trolling #YesAllWoman for me to find you. I look forward to reading and watching your content, especially your novel Who Stole Feminism.
Thank you for the honest and rational discussion of this topic. Too often arguments against points Feminists bring up are filled with condescending remarks and venemous ignorance. Not the case here! I am a Feminist and really want women to be taken seriously when they feel that they are under threat because of how men who are sexist have so frequently treated them. However ignoring the facts is NOT helping anyone!
***** Your sarcasm is well noted, however--what are you really trying to say? So, what #yesallwomen is *supposed* to be about is more important than what it turned into? Sheesh. So when people take something to extremes, we're not allowed to point it out, otherwise we're against women complaining about being harassed? Wow, very interesting. So I suppose "ban bossy" was actually a really good campaign? What are you trying to say?
about those M&M's what type of poison. like is it going to kill me, or is it like going to make me have the runs. because some risks are worth the reward.
You are incredibly insightful... I clicked on your "Are Video Games Sexist?" video, expecting another slanted piece, out of boredom and found someone who seems to look at facts above toeing the line every time. I'm watching your videos now and I'm wondering why I never heard of you before? Why do I only hear about feminists that want to tell me I'm responsible for all the bad things that happen because of me being male? There need to be more moderates like yourself.
It's so nice to see a real feminist doing actual research and going out to actually talk and interview people. Thank you so much, I'm liking, sharing and congratulations you've earned a new subscriber!
TheGuuz You realize he's being sarcastic right? People on reddit don't actually act like that. He's using all the buzzwords to convince people like you that everyone on Reddit is an idiot. And he's doing a pretty good job.
Cameron Booth How, exactly? That's a harsh way to describe an entire website. A website full of all sorts of people, with all sorts of ideas and opinions.
cockerhamdrew the entire design of the website encourages circlejerking. Putting everyone into obscure subreddits and having people who are dedicated to that topic in charge of those subreddits instead of impartial mods encourages people to go along with the hivemind and create cancer.
Lady you are amazing. Thank you for taking the time to go through some of this with us. It's common knowledge the media warps facts but it's always nice to see how so we can be more discerning in the future.
The biggest problem I have with the MnM analogy, is that it suggests that women/people in general can't tell when a male is 'poisonous'. Most of the time you can tell when a male is fucked up; with MnMs you'd have no idea which were poisoned and which weren't. In using the quote, are women suggesting they are incapable of working out when a man is messed up? Because it doesn't take a genius to know when somebody is sick, like Elliott Rodgers; his past actions, TH-cam vids and personality traits screamed 'I am seriously fucked up'.
Valid point. Additionally, just because I've dated women who turn out to have deal-breaking jealousy issues, fidelity issues, general crazy issues, etc., I don't go out there saying "only ten percent are poisonous, will you risk it?" You learn and move on, and develop a discerning eye. This M'n'M thing is divisive and insulting.
This is an absolutely excellent video. Factual feminist, you are definitely a trust worthy source in my opinion. I feel as if some of the ideas portrayed by these one sided media outlets not only give women a bad idea of what's going on but it also gives men a poor image and continues a terrible stereotype. Equality doesn't come from only having one opinion. It's hard for any man to argue the difference between misandry and feminism though. Especially with the bad rep that feminism has been getting with these kind of stunts pulled by media outlets targeting a "feminist" demographic.
So is it ok to grab a woman who is trying to hurt herself? Is it ok to grab a man who is about to drive after having too much to drink? Is it assault to push your friend as you both rush off to the bathroom because they have to shit and you have to piss? What about if it's in a playful manner? If someone is trying to steal something from you because you won't loan it to them at the moment, is it ok to use minor assault methods such as grabbing, pushing, or throwing stuff to trip them in order to get it back? She's not saying that those things aren't bad, she's saying that the different *LEVELS OF DEGREE AND CONTEXT* are not being taken into account.
Context always matters, but here she's dismissing that those things could ever be considered assault and that's bullshit. If a husband grabs his wife and shoves her because he's pissed, that's assault.
Audacityscape She didn't even say that, did she? Her implication was that these things, being included in the study, did not constitute the study being specifically about women being domestically abused.
Subscribed. You are a voice of reason. You do not just jump on a bandwagon, but examine the whole picture and consider and present the facts where possible. If the world needs anything, its that.
I don't normally comment on TH-cam videos, but it's rare that I see a video so in line with how I view the world. I see so many statistics that lack context that, as a mathematician, I doubt any of it. So, I find it refreshing to see someone analyze this data, to take that deeper look, and report about it factually. More than that, I find it refreshing for someone to explain the whole instead of focusing on the specific. Instead of focusing on a problem that affects women, you specifically spotlight all types--women, men, children, people of any ethnic group. All groups experience physical or sexual assault. In particular, as a teacher, I see how young people in my area interact--in what they say, in the gestures they make, what they do to each other, and definitely in how easily they believe information. I wish there were far more videos like this, whole news networks like this, so that data would be better interpreted, that such information could be more widely spread, and that a united front against physical or sexual assault against all people in all categories could be formed. I appreciate this video. I appreciate you. I will now watch the rest of your videos to see what else you have to say.
I was highly sceptical when you said you are a factual feminist. I have seen far too many dishonest and irrational feminists to trust any feminist. You, however, seem rational and honest. Believe anything you want, but if you want to convince others, you should be trustworthy.
Factual feminist, I love you. I hold a lot of respect for you. I hear a lot of people talk what a "true feminist" is but if there is such a thing, you are the only one I've come across that is relatively well known that can be considered so. I hope I can find more like you, because I know you're out there.
Women are not the only target of physical assult. Men can be victims and have been vicitims. My brother being one. But I love how levelheaded this woman is when talking about statistics and how they are greatly dramatized. I plan to subscribe.
Speaking as a woman assaulted day after day with the frankly insulting and demeaning rhetoric of the majority of vocal people identifying as feminists thank you very much for being a voice of reason in a storm of victimhood centered political activism. I am not a feminist, and will never be one as long as it has people like Melody "I have PSTD from twitter" Hensly in it, I am not a "Chill girl" nor a "sister punisher" from not agreeing with abusive and mindless assaults on any not toeing the party line, I'm glad there is at least one feminist I feel I can respect
Why can't more feminist be like this? If there were, they wouldn't be hated nearly as much, and wouldn't have to come up with ways to scare people into joining it.
Great video. I enjoy that you've put the time and effort to back up your facts with evidence and citations. May I suggest the problems of child abuse as a new video? I've seen a lot of videos of typical Tumblr feminist talking about men being the abusers of women, but I have yet to see one discussing about child abuse.
Just recently checked out some of your videos and i just subscribed. Really like that you keep reffering to and criticaly examining facts as well as that you consider both genders in the increasingly entrenched "war of the sexes". Cheers from Sweden and keep up the good, factual work.
A lot of modern day "progressive" people use the flawed logic that you perfectly described is being used in this YesAllWomen movement. THIS IS THE KIND OF FEMINISM WE NEED!!!! Real and academically based feminism should be what is taught and spread, not ridiculous statements that seem to give you moral brownie points on the surface but are logically flawed and incorrect at the base. I thank you for this video and encourage you to keep spread this factual feminism approach
Thank you for standing up against mob coercion and putting the facts into a meaningful context. I'm terribly saddened by the slew of misinformation aimed at demonizing men. Please, keep up the good work. This information has to get out there if we are to live in harmony.
I want to thank you for continuing to be a voice of actual reason. As a woman myself, what may of these 'sources' and 'rape culture' morons are doing is belittling intelligent women like yourself and myself. As a survivor of abuse, I do not appreciate these people abusing the word 'rape' or anything else like #EndFathersDay or other terms and using false information as a means to to 'help' people when in actual fact they are doing more harm.
She is the reason I subscribed to this channel. Thank you very much. I'm more convinced now on why people who stand for the reason they stand for. This is a big achievement on real equality.
These have got to be some of the best videos on TH-cam. I think your reasoned logic will eventually prevail over the obnoxious modern radical version of feminism. Yours is a feminism all men should rally behind.
+Chris Johnson Here here Chris! Yes, as a man I would love to all myself a feminist. Unfortunately the word has been stolen by bigots. Maybe we can get it back. Do you know the term "Misandry": Hatred of men. So here's a slogan: "Real Feminism is not Misandry."
+Chris Johnson Here here Chris! Yes, as a man I would love to all myself a feminist. Unfortunately the word has been stolen by bigots. Maybe we can get it back. Do you know the term "Misandry": Hatred of men. So here's a slogan: "Real Feminism is not Misandry."
How to debunk feminists:
1. Find the source they cite
2. Read them the source
+Dandan It's a cult.
3. Instant Misogynist
+TGGeko Basically, what they should have done before citing it.
+TGGeko Eh, sometimes all it takes is just to take their argument, phrase it a little differently (without changing the actual meaning, just the phrasing) and the argument debunks itself.
+TGGeko As soon as you tell them the ACTUAL FACTS, they accuse you of "mansplaining." Men are not allowed to be right.
100% of all apples are green. (See source below)
*Out of all apples that are green 100% are green.
To argue the 10% of M&Ms are poisonous.
You take out one M&M test it for poison, then eat or throw away. Just like we do with people. You met them, test their views, then decide if you want to interact with them more or not. To do otherwise would be judging people on how they look.
+Craig Goetsch Or hide at home forever :)
that is way too logical. throw all m and m's in fires of hell along with the factory that made them, the people that designed them, anyone who briefly suggested maybe we should try to pick out poisoned one to enjoy the good ones. this solution is better.
well if you wanna be pessimist that is one of way of saying it.
If eating one M&M would represent a one on one encounter, wouldn't eating a handful equate to a gangbang? That writer is a freak!
Now this is how feminists should act, calm and factual. Props to the American Enterprise Institute.
Well, at least when they're presenting an argument. Outside of that, I, for one, couldn't care less how they act. Fewer things are more annoying than a shrill lunatic that won't either listen to or employ any reason when debating.
JoeNietzsche Agreed. Some people simply cannot be reasoned with despite presenting them with sound, valid arguments. They just want to scream their opinion as if it's fact despite any evidence to the contrary.
Yeah, someone needs to tell THEM that.
you mean this is how the rational mind should act. I'm sure being feminist is just part of her.
***** Yes it is. That's why I think it would be wise for Christina to drop the label.
You are without a doubt the most intelligent feminist I have ever seen.
There is no intelligent feminists
@@nureldinkhalifa are*
@@abrax2510 I love this hahaha
intelligent *woman.
@@imdadood5705 women*
"Now, I think men will be forgiven for finding the whole thing quite insulting."
No. No we will not. Instead we will be insulted some more, yelled at, demonized and accused of derailing the conversation or misogyny!
EDIT: Fixed spelling.
AND accused of complaining and making the situation about ourselves if we dare try to defend ourselves, don't forget that bit.
gimme that demon ice
Ha ha! Sorry. English is not my first, or even second language.
Biggsy DaOneTrueKing Let's avoid the gross generalizations where we can. As the video producer here proved, feminism in academia has and can continue to be rooted strongly in logic and reasoning.
Bartholomew Klick LOL ... you have no idea. That woman is Christina Hoff Sommers! Thanks to her use of logic and reasoning and quest for equal rights,she is admired by MRAs and seen as a "gender traitor" by the RadFems. She is a member of "The Old Guard" sometimes called "True Feminists" ... I fear there are too few of them left to save us!
if more feminist where like the factual feminist
I'd be behind it one hundred percent
spuhtanous combatment In fact feminists consider and label her an anti-feminist. Sooo yeah. Fine. I'm an anti feminist too. Unless you ignore the 'no true scotsmen' fallacy.
+spuhtanous combatment Same.
Her viewpoints fits the dictionary definition of feminism in a way that so many other feminists do not.
+James Race I know it sucks
it was noble cause about equality and its now turned into praise anything a women does with a vagina whether good or bad
+spuhtanous combatment Yes this is perhaps one small point where I disagree with Christina HS. She is trying to make herself seem more acceptable by calling herself a feminist. However feminism is fundamentally flawed and it can't be "recovered". Feminism in all it's forms is a lost cause.
We should all learn by this that we need to treat men and women truly equal and place equal emphasis on both, even when one appears to have all the power.
In other words we should bury feminism completely and focus on true egalitarianism.
#YesAllWomen received a tremendous amount of attention in the wake of the Isla Vista killings, but the facts did not. The Factual Feminist looks at the numbers behind the hashtag, and reveals some surprising data that shows you may have been misled.
Two very simple improvements to this video series:
1) Put a link to the playlist in the video description of every video in the series.
2) Put links to all sources of each video in its description.
gggrow Great ideas, thanks!
gggrow I agree, I'm looking for the link for the video towards the end comparing public reactions to domestic violence
Wow, I'm really happy to see someone debunk a few of thoses claims. Truth is often forgotten when bad situations like the origin of Yesallwomen arise.
Bill S Did you end up finding it? I'm interested in seeing it as well
It's like there was a fight between boys and girls, and this lady is like the calm teacher who teaches everyone a lesson at the end of the day.
Correction! this calm teacher is teaching just the girls. Boys are not the ones lying in order to gain something!
G.I. Joe!
I would be happy to call myself a feminist, if this is the sort of skeptical, rational yet pragmatic and concerned worldview it represents. Great video as usual Christina. :)
Sommer's calls that 'Equity Feminism' I think.
unfortunately christina is an extremely rare bird amongst feminists
Faux Mustache
Feminism was always supposed to be about equality, sad that it needs that adjective now to differentiate from craziness.
Brendan Beckett I will believe that feminism is for gender equality when I see organized feminism championing as a cause a men's issue that does not also affect women.
When a feminist lobbying group champions funding for a shelter for the 50% of domestic violence victims who aren't female, for example. Or when a feminist group starts campaigning and protesting against the fact that women get lighter sentences than men despite committing the same crime. Or when a feminist group goes just as ape-shit over a female teacher having sex with her underage student as they do when its a man having sex with an underage girl.
Hell, I'd even believe it if organized feminism took as much time to put muzzles on their more extreme members (the ones who really are dyed-in-the-wool man-haters) as they do turning such people into folk heroes.
J What you just did there is what intelligent people call a "Red Herring". A "Red Herring" is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:
Topic A is under discussion.
Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
Topic A is abandoned.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.
Now, would you care to address the point, or do you want to dodge it some more?
Yeah, we should be forgiven for finding it insulting. Unfortunately, we're not being forgiven. Instead, we're being told that anger at being insulted in this way is not an appropriate reaction, and that an appropriate reaction would be just sitting there and taking it.
yes, exactly!!!
Well said. A lot of feminists today like the ones that compare men to poison are literally discriminating. Its just as bad as racial discrimination yet we are just supposed to sit here and take it? Nope no.
J Your inability to recognize when someone is using sarcasm, as Paul Elam did in the article you are referring to, is noted. I also note your inability to cite an entire quote, or to include the context of that quote.
For the record, the whole quote is as follows:
"If you listen to the 'Teach Men Not to Rape' segment of feminism, you come away thinking that all men are complete animals who cannot control their sexual desires and who thus need to be muzzled when going out in polite company, lest they attack and ravage the first woman (or girl, for that matter) that they encounter."
The fact that you intentionally failed to note that, when Elam said this, he was talking about the statements of noted feminists, and were intentionally lying when you tried to imply that these were Elam's attitude, shows that you are an intellectual coward, dishonest, and a liar.
A typical unthinking feminist, in other words.
Take it like a man! /s
Jack Butler
I believe that according to feminists (male or female) the appriopriate answer to the slander and the smears is to "sit down, STFU and listen" (to your betters, I guess).
"the truth is bad enough, why hype it up with misleading headlines..?"
Because playing the victim is dramatic.
And it sells
@@l.dorado5729 probably is more to the point.
I love the comment you made that these issues are too important to leave in the hands of careless journalists and TV pundits. We live in a society that puts far too much weight into the credibility of anyone on TV.
Well, the news media used to take their function as a pillar of democracy much more seriously (it was never perfect or even very good but, compared to today's news media, which is an absurd circus, they were a collection of saints back then). As a result of that history there is a lingering degree of respect. Maybe one day journalism will be worthy of it again but for now - nope, not even a little.
So true.
We also live in a society that forces itself to overcompensate for perceived victimhood. Hence, SJWs. Victimhood is powerful. Victimhood is vindicating. Victimhood allows people to narrow their scope of vision, which just leads to a perpetual cycle.
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T V sells drama- truth is not dramatic.
The facts overrule the misleads. Against facts there is no arguments. Great video.
You know, I've heard of your videos before, and checked into your one about Anita Sarkeesian's video series, and I find that you are quite an intelligent person, as well as quite respectable. You understand that people have to be responsible for their own actions, while also knowing how to deal with those who impose upon others. Thank you so very much for your sobering voice and logical understanding of research. :)
I love this woman. She is really an equality seaker.
Subscribed and shared. Great video. Please upload more.
Thank you. New videos are posted every Monday.
+American Enterprise Institute awesome loving all your videos!!! It is so great to get the real facts 👍
Thank you for your honesty and objectivity Ma'am. If all feminists were this honest, open minded and objective, the world be so much better.
Do we in todays world still need feminists? I'm all for equal rights, but feminists sound like Muslims, they don't wan't to be criticized.
My point; humanism > feminism.
"Feminist" is technically the word used for people that are for gender equality. The word "feminist" sounds as though it would only be in support for women, however it really promotes equality. A different term might be in order, but I think people just need to be more aware of the feminists out there that aren't shaming men for holding a door or offering to pay for dinner. The good feminists are in the majority, however people only hear about the irritating ones.
Aiden Niemi Egalitarianism
If you ask me, I think accounting for differences are an important factor to consider and are the natural flaw of humanism. It's really impossible to treat everyone the same; they come from different backgrounds. They are raised with different prejudices and different sources of identity. Humanism is a movement that ignores the differences in people. A variety of movements that protect the interests of people that are relevant to the cause, such as feminism, are much better than a movement that benefits everyone at once because these movements exist to address issues each demographic has as a specific. Humanism itself, if it was organized, would be much like congress. Every different demographic has different interests, it'd be put to vote, and majority would rule. That majority, btw, would be a specific race and gender within the organized movement, and thus would poorly represent minorities which might have an entirely different set of issues they would like considered by their representatives. You could argue that a group of movements arguing over who gets what is another representative of congress, and as things are now the law can more easily ignore groups that are smaller and more poorly represented, however, as things stand now, different movements are getting stuff done. A lot of the good we're doing now with separate groups, such as groups that support African Americans or, again, feminism, would never get done with organized humanism, and that is why it's an inferior system.
Vennificus Thank you!
our initial premise is incorrect, humanism and by extension egalitarianism doesn't ignore that people are different. honestly its been my expoerence that feminists are the ones that wont admit people are different.
Thank you so much for saying something that needs to be said. Violence against women is deplorable, but so is violence against anyone. You rock Factual Feminist! We need more voices like yours.
I'm always happy to stumble upon a voice of reason in all the nonsense. Thanks, awesome woman!
Excellent video with the good use of logic!
This women is just absolutely amazing. The world needs more people like this, someone who doesn't believe every piece of garbage that the media spews out.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! You are singing my song! Keep it up, and I will be looking at your other videos in the near future. This made my day. What a breath of fresh air! The fear my feminist friends feel when they walk outside their door, that they have a statistical inevitability of being assaulted, is a real fear. But they don't understand that this fear has been fabricated by a very few vocal feminists, and is not in any way based on the actual likelihood that they will experience an assault. These misleading statistics do nobody any good regardless of gender, and serve only to drive a wedge between men and women when we should be allies instead. Please keep speaking out; you are amazing!
GIVE THIS WOMAN ALL OF THE INTERNETS
I love your videos. I've been having some doubts about a lot of the sensationalist feminist sound bites I've been hearing, but I find the Men's Right's Activists, at least all the one's I've encountered online, to be just be misogynistic men hoping to vent their sexism. Your videos are informative and level-headed and a breath of fresh air.
Thank you for the kind words. Check back on Mondays for my latest.
You've definitely got your head screwed on. I've got a problem though, it's with feminism and equality.
Feminists claim to want equality for women but even the act of claiming to be feminist already separates them from men and destroys any equality. You can't be feminist and want equality. Feminism is all about women, it's right there in the name.
A decent example of what I'm talking about is the relationship between atheists and religious people (is there an ism/ist word for that?). A religious person can never claim to be atheist because their views go completely against atheism and vice versa.
If you want to have views or ideas that are aimed at equality for both men and women, don't call yourself a feminist. If you really want to have views or ideas tailored for equality, call yourself an equalist, or anything similar. Your views will be much better presented that way.
Religious people are called theologists
Jacob Milgrim Aren't theologists people who study religion? Theology = the study of religion?
EmmaCross94 Jacob Milgrim The term is theist
Yes the term is Theist like Tazildayah said. You do get Atheistic religions such as Buddhism. I totally agree that feminism is inherently unequal.
Tazildayah Ah I get it now.
Theist = Religious
*A*theist = Not Religious
Makes sense :P
Finally a feminist I can support. Well done for exposing this insanity. I hope, at least, some so called feminists change their views upon seeing this.
A sane voice in a hysterical world.
YES, finally. By far the most rational - and empirical - take on this ordeal that I've heard.
My right ear is lonely.
I know
Well my _left_ ear is lonely, but that's only because I have to flip my headset around. My desktop layout, and personal preference, places the mic (which according to the markings is the left side of the headset) on the right side of my head.
I remember my time in HR advising on disciplinary matters. Very often an employee would be accused of perpetrating a racist or sexist act of misconduct. The selected witnesses would then give their opinions (but not facts). Then as per my duties I would advise the disciplining manager that opinions on their own cannot be used as evidence in disciplinary hearings. Following the failed disciplinary hearing, the team rebuilding would take days possibly weeks if ever to put right.
These extreme feminists are like locusts and destroy everything they touch.
This woman is either a new breed, or an unspoken breed. I haven't seen anything like this.
You mam are absolutely fucking incredible. The truly unfortunate thing however, is that it took your clips being posted on a forum regarding trolling #YesAllWoman for me to find you. I look forward to reading and watching your content, especially your novel Who Stole Feminism.
wow.. In a see of Sarkesians, this woman gives me hope!
Brilliant, thank you very much for this wonderful service. Subscribed and I can't wait for future works about this and related subjects.
I don't trust the media much anymore.
Thank you for the honest and rational discussion of this topic. Too often arguments against points Feminists bring up are filled with condescending remarks and venemous ignorance. Not the case here! I am a Feminist and really want women to be taken seriously when they feel that they are under threat because of how men who are sexist have so frequently treated them.
However ignoring the facts is NOT helping anyone!
Thank you so much for making this video :)
***** Groan.
***** Your sarcasm is well noted, however--what are you really trying to say?
So, what #yesallwomen is *supposed* to be about is more important than what it turned into? Sheesh.
So when people take something to extremes, we're not allowed to point it out, otherwise we're against women complaining about being harassed? Wow, very interesting.
So I suppose "ban bossy" was actually a really good campaign?
What are you trying to say?
I was watching a video of thunderf00t bitching about getting banned from twitter, he happened to mention this channel, and now here I am. instant sub
Don't tell people not to eat M&Ms, tell the M&Ms to stop being poisonous!
As if mnms could stop being what they are
Thank you! The world needs more people who think and not just obey!
As a top tier redditor, I'd like to welcome you to the youtube comments section.
I worship the ground that awaits your grave
Bravo!
Crazy how this was posted 7 years ago and we got put right back into this position
We need this women now more than ever......
The M&Ms argument assumes that there are no poisonous women.
These days you cant trust anyone or anything you read
Thank you for producing this video. This was an absolute breath of fresh air.
about those M&M's what type of poison. like is it going to kill me, or is it like going to make me have the runs. because some risks are worth the reward.
You are incredibly insightful... I clicked on your "Are Video Games Sexist?" video, expecting another slanted piece, out of boredom and found someone who seems to look at facts above toeing the line every time. I'm watching your videos now and I'm wondering why I never heard of you before? Why do I only hear about feminists that want to tell me I'm responsible for all the bad things that happen because of me being male? There need to be more moderates like yourself.
This was a very good video.
It's so nice to see a real feminist doing actual research and going out to actually talk and interview people. Thank you so much, I'm liking, sharing and congratulations you've earned a new subscriber!
Le fucking reddit army is here XD XD xD.
Tips le euphoric atheist fedora xd
Reddit is fucking cancer
TheGuuz You realize he's being sarcastic right? People on reddit don't actually act like that. He's using all the buzzwords to convince people like you that everyone on Reddit is an idiot. And he's doing a pretty good job.
cockerhamdrew You realize that Reddit is still cancer, right?
Cameron Booth How, exactly? That's a harsh way to describe an entire website. A website full of all sorts of people, with all sorts of ideas and opinions.
cockerhamdrew the entire design of the website encourages circlejerking. Putting everyone into obscure subreddits and having people who are dedicated to that topic in charge of those subreddits instead of impartial mods encourages people to go along with the hivemind and create cancer.
Lady you are amazing. Thank you for taking the time to go through some of this with us. It's common knowledge the media warps facts but it's always nice to see how so we can be more discerning in the future.
You're awesome
I'm grateful there are voices of reason out there.
The biggest problem I have with the MnM analogy, is that it suggests that women/people in general can't tell when a male is 'poisonous'. Most of the time you can tell when a male is fucked up; with MnMs you'd have no idea which were poisoned and which weren't. In using the quote, are women suggesting they are incapable of working out when a man is messed up? Because it doesn't take a genius to know when somebody is sick, like Elliott Rodgers; his past actions, TH-cam vids and personality traits screamed 'I am seriously fucked up'.
Valid point. Additionally, just because I've dated women who turn out to have deal-breaking jealousy issues, fidelity issues, general crazy issues, etc., I don't go out there saying "only ten percent are poisonous, will you risk it?" You learn and move on, and develop a discerning eye. This M'n'M thing is divisive and insulting.
This is an absolutely excellent video. Factual feminist, you are definitely a trust worthy source in my opinion. I feel as if some of the ideas portrayed by these one sided media outlets not only give women a bad idea of what's going on but it also gives men a poor image and continues a terrible stereotype. Equality doesn't come from only having one opinion.
It's hard for any man to argue the difference between misandry and feminism though. Especially with the bad rep that feminism has been getting with these kind of stunts pulled by media outlets targeting a "feminist" demographic.
Does "grabbing, pushing and shoving" NOT count as physical assault? NBD to get shoved by your husband?
or wife!
Right! Any of those things, when not consensual, count as assault. You can't just go around shoving people.
So is it ok to grab a woman who is trying to hurt herself? Is it ok to grab a man who is about to drive after having too much to drink?
Is it assault to push your friend as you both rush off to the bathroom because they have to shit and you have to piss? What about if it's in a playful manner?
If someone is trying to steal something from you because you won't loan it to them at the moment, is it ok to use minor assault methods such as grabbing, pushing, or throwing stuff to trip them in order to get it back?
She's not saying that those things aren't bad, she's saying that the different *LEVELS OF DEGREE AND CONTEXT* are not being taken into account.
Context always matters, but here she's dismissing that those things could ever be considered assault and that's bullshit. If a husband grabs his wife and shoves her because he's pissed, that's assault.
Audacityscape She didn't even say that, did she? Her implication was that these things, being included in the study, did not constitute the study being specifically about women being domestically abused.
thank you Christina. I really have a lot of respect for you. thoughtful and concise as always.
Subscribed. You are a voice of reason. You do not just jump on a bandwagon, but examine the whole picture and consider and present the facts where possible. If the world needs anything, its that.
I don't normally comment on TH-cam videos, but it's rare that I see a video so in line with how I view the world. I see so many statistics that lack context that, as a mathematician, I doubt any of it. So, I find it refreshing to see someone analyze this data, to take that deeper look, and report about it factually.
More than that, I find it refreshing for someone to explain the whole instead of focusing on the specific. Instead of focusing on a problem that affects women, you specifically spotlight all types--women, men, children, people of any ethnic group.
All groups experience physical or sexual assault. In particular, as a teacher, I see how young people in my area interact--in what they say, in the gestures they make, what they do to each other, and definitely in how easily they believe information.
I wish there were far more videos like this, whole news networks like this, so that data would be better interpreted, that such information could be more widely spread, and that a united front against physical or sexual assault against all people in all categories could be formed.
I appreciate this video. I appreciate you. I will now watch the rest of your videos to see what else you have to say.
Finally, someone who actually talks with clarity. Subscribed.
It's a relief to see someone present the whole argument instead of sensationalizing the minutia for facebook 'LIKES' and twitter follows.
Superb. I have no words. Thank you for this.
I was highly sceptical when you said you are a factual feminist. I have seen far too many dishonest and irrational feminists to trust any feminist. You, however, seem rational and honest.
Believe anything you want, but if you want to convince others, you should be trustworthy.
Love your spots. So insightful and informative.
Factual feminist, I love you. I hold a lot of respect for you. I hear a lot of people talk what a "true feminist" is but if there is such a thing, you are the only one I've come across that is relatively well known that can be considered so. I hope I can find more like you, because I know you're out there.
Why.. why am I just finding this now! Great discussion.
The only feminist out here who isn't butchering facts to appear in her favor. Keep up the good work.
thank you for all your work ms. sommer. Both past and present.
That tweet comparing men to a bowl of M&Ms where 10% of them are poison pissed me off for the very reasons that she points out in this video.
Great video. The only way to stop the trivializing of violence against women is through allowing the truth it's full weight, and not watering it down.
I never thought I'd subscribe to AEI's TH-cam channel, but this series has me convinced that it's worth getting updates at least.
I'm glad people like you exist.
Women are not the only target of physical assult. Men can be victims and have been vicitims. My brother being one. But I love how levelheaded this woman is when talking about statistics and how they are greatly dramatized. I plan to subscribe.
Speaking as a woman assaulted day after day with the frankly insulting and demeaning rhetoric of the majority of vocal people identifying as feminists thank you very much for being a voice of reason in a storm of victimhood centered political activism. I am not a feminist, and will never be one as long as it has people like Melody "I have PSTD from twitter" Hensly in it, I am not a "Chill girl" nor a "sister punisher" from not agreeing with abusive and mindless assaults on any not toeing the party line, I'm glad there is at least one feminist I feel I can respect
Ok, I'm a guy, and this is the first video of yours I've watched, instant respect and subbed
Wow! What wonderful video. If more feminists were like the factual feminist I might actually be a feminist.
THANK YOU! I was thinking about how the 10% of M&M's had bigoted logic, I just didn't know the right words to say!
THANK YOU Factual Feminist!
Thanks for your honesty and courage.
You are awesome. Thank you for staying factual.
Why can't more feminist be like this? If there were, they wouldn't be hated nearly as much, and wouldn't have to come up with ways to scare people into joining it.
Outstanding work. Always happy to see people of reason in a sea of hatred and divisiveness.
Great video. I enjoy that you've put the time and effort to back up your facts with evidence and citations. May I suggest the problems of child abuse as a new video? I've seen a lot of videos of typical Tumblr feminist talking about men being the abusers of women, but I have yet to see one discussing about child abuse.
Just recently checked out some of your videos and i just subscribed. Really like that you keep reffering to and criticaly examining facts as well as that you consider both genders in the increasingly entrenched "war of the sexes".
Cheers from Sweden and keep up the good, factual work.
A lot of modern day "progressive" people use the flawed logic that you perfectly described is being used in this YesAllWomen movement. THIS IS THE KIND OF FEMINISM WE NEED!!!! Real and academically based feminism should be what is taught and spread, not ridiculous statements that seem to give you moral brownie points on the surface but are logically flawed and incorrect at the base.
I thank you for this video and encourage you to keep spread this factual feminism approach
Once again keeping it real with facts. Thanks for doing a good job.
I am glad that she pointed out that bigot say the same thing, and that it is ridiculous that it is acceptable to make that analogy.
This Woman understands Feminism!
thanks for making a video showing the truth!
Christina you are truly a saint. Thank you for this.
Thank you for standing up against mob coercion and putting the facts into a meaningful context. I'm terribly saddened by the slew of misinformation aimed at demonizing men. Please, keep up the good work. This information has to get out there if we are to live in harmony.
Grabbing, pushing or shoving? Geez! I've been assaulted hundreds of times. And here I was thinking I was just getting on a crowded train.
I want to thank you for continuing to be a voice of actual reason. As a woman myself, what may of these 'sources' and 'rape culture' morons are doing is belittling intelligent women like yourself and myself. As a survivor of abuse, I do not appreciate these people abusing the word 'rape' or anything else like #EndFathersDay or other terms and using false information as a means to to 'help' people when in actual fact they are doing more harm.
#factualfeminist ; a feminist I can truly stand behind. Great, insightful video.
Wow, just wow. Thank you for providing an evidence based analysis of gender issues and violence. This is so refreshing.
Miss Sommers, you are the best feminist in the universe. Thank you!
She is the reason I subscribed to this channel. Thank you very much. I'm more convinced now on why people who stand for the reason they stand for. This is a big achievement on real equality.
These have got to be some of the best videos on TH-cam. I think your reasoned logic will eventually prevail over the obnoxious modern radical version of feminism. Yours is a feminism all men should rally behind.
+Chris Johnson Here here Chris! Yes, as a man I would love to all myself a feminist. Unfortunately the word has been stolen by bigots. Maybe we can get it back. Do you know the term "Misandry": Hatred of men. So here's a slogan: "Real Feminism is not Misandry."
+Chris Johnson Here here Chris! Yes, as a man I would love to all myself a feminist. Unfortunately the word has been stolen by bigots. Maybe we can get it back. Do you know the term "Misandry": Hatred of men. So here's a slogan: "Real Feminism is not Misandry."