Bro your break down WAS ON POINT!!!!!! THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT AND TAKE!! Keyscape is still my favorite. One thing like you were saying I wish keyscape can do is with velocity if you have on pad and a Keyscape piano when you press soft on the pad sound and piano doesn't strike like on nord piano you hit the keys soft no sounds strike I love that
I have both sampled pianos and Pianoteq. I find myself using Pianoteq almost exclusively, just because of convenience… it loads faster, is tweakable and in the context of a mix (band or orchestra) it mostly works great. But I might get weak with keyscape.
I think you are incorrect with your conclusion. A modeled piano has a very small file but need a good processor because everything will be calculated in real time. A sampler has a much bigger file size so needs a bigger HD or SSD needs to load samples but is less stressed for the processor. So you still need a good computer for a modeled piano. Which one is better is a personal choice. I like both.
Hmm I agree with your reasoning that CPU usage should be taken into account, however, computers are designed to do those type of calculations really fast. Playing and manipulating sampled audio files also requires processing. I haven’t used a modeled VST, but my sample based VSTs eat up my MacBook Pro CPU, RAM and disk storage at a rate that Pianoteq would have to try hard to beat 🤷♂️ could be wrong tho!
Nice info, very accurate, just know that sampled piano are not THAT much demanding, i just builded a small proof of concept with a NO FAN 200$ mini computer + a sound card that run perfectly with many many sampled GREAT sampled piano like The Grandeur (my favorite) and it's powerful enough to even add a few second layer for gospel sound so 500$ is more than you need for sampled route :)
Hey there! Thanks for your thoughts. Do you happen to be familiar with Yamahas sampling quality (e.g.: vrm)? I was wondering how you like for example their samples of the Yamaha CFX and Bösendorfer Imperial on the Avantgarde series (i.e.: NU1AX) compared to keyspace etc. Thanks for your thoughts on the matter! Regards
Well it’s a bit of an unfair comparison as keyscape has a lot more processing power to work with since it’s a computer vs a keyboard but I prefer keyscape over the Yamaha but the funny thing is, keyscape IS a Yamaha C7 hahaha so Yamaha still wins. But that doesn’t mean I don’t like the montage series, but I find Nord and Korg seems to do the best in sampling pianos into a keyboard.
@@ZacBarnesMusic Thanks again for your insights. What an interesting topic. For me it seems to be a question of whether I want a clean physical sound (modeling, amplifier and speaker), or a good enougj copy of a specific piano. In addition, key action is of importance to me. Well you can't have it all... but still enjoy music :D
I think of it this way. Modelled pianos will get better and better. With AI they will improve even faster. Sampled pianos will be the same. My vote goes to fast, small, cheap, future proof modelled pianos. I also have both (Spotlight in Kontakt) and the sampled one is clunky and takes a while to load. Inspiration drops when things are slow.
dude, always someone posting responses to be rude. If you want samples, then go find them elsewhere. There is more than enough out there. The intent of this video was to explain the differences and pros/cons. Hardly useless. I thought it was very informative. Sheesh!
Bro your break down WAS ON POINT!!!!!! THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT AND TAKE!! Keyscape is still my favorite. One thing like you were saying I wish keyscape can do is with velocity if you have on pad and a Keyscape piano when you press soft on the pad sound and piano doesn't strike like on nord piano you hit the keys soft no sounds strike I love that
Thanks for watching! Maybe check the velocity setting? Not sure if it can do it or not…
I have both sampled pianos and Pianoteq. I find myself using Pianoteq almost exclusively, just because of convenience… it loads faster, is tweakable and in the context of a mix (band or orchestra) it mostly works great. But I might get weak with keyscape.
The one that makes you play the most is the best! 🙌🏾
I think you are incorrect with your conclusion. A modeled piano has a very small file but need a good processor because everything will be calculated in real time. A sampler has a much bigger file size so needs a bigger HD or SSD needs to load samples but is less stressed for the processor. So you still need a good computer for a modeled piano.
Which one is better is a personal choice. I like both.
Hmm I agree with your reasoning that CPU usage should be taken into account, however, computers are designed to do those type of calculations really fast. Playing and manipulating sampled audio files also requires processing. I haven’t used a modeled VST, but my sample based VSTs eat up my MacBook Pro CPU, RAM and disk storage at a rate that Pianoteq would have to try hard to beat 🤷♂️ could be wrong tho!
I am wondering if there is any modeled piano that uses GPU instead of CPU as from what I know, the CPU is not that great doing real time calculations.
@ Hmm that’s an interesting thought. From what I know, latency would be an issue and CPU is still better than GPU here. I’ll do some research!
Nice info, very accurate, just know that sampled piano are not THAT much demanding, i just builded a small proof of concept with a NO FAN 200$ mini computer + a sound card that run perfectly with many many sampled GREAT sampled piano like The Grandeur (my favorite) and it's powerful enough to even add a few second layer for gospel sound so 500$ is more than you need for sampled route :)
Nice! I’ve never done that before so I couldn’t testify to that but that’s cool to hear! Tech is getting less and less expensive!
Hey there! Thanks for your thoughts. Do you happen to be familiar with Yamahas sampling quality (e.g.: vrm)? I was wondering how you like for example their samples of the Yamaha CFX and Bösendorfer Imperial on the Avantgarde series (i.e.: NU1AX) compared to keyspace etc.
Thanks for your thoughts on the matter!
Regards
Well it’s a bit of an unfair comparison as keyscape has a lot more processing power to work with since it’s a computer vs a keyboard but I prefer keyscape over the Yamaha but the funny thing is, keyscape IS a Yamaha C7 hahaha so Yamaha still wins. But that doesn’t mean I don’t like the montage series, but I find Nord and Korg seems to do the best in sampling pianos into a keyboard.
@@ZacBarnesMusic Thanks again for your insights. What an interesting topic.
For me it seems to be a question of whether I want a clean physical sound (modeling, amplifier and speaker), or a good enougj copy of a specific piano. In addition, key action is of importance to me.
Well you can't have it all... but still enjoy music :D
Yes, the purpose of what your looking for def plays the biggest factor. Knowing what sound you want is will point you in the best direction.
I think of it this way. Modelled pianos will get better and better. With AI they will improve even faster. Sampled pianos will be the same. My vote goes to fast, small, cheap, future proof modelled pianos. I also have both (Spotlight in Kontakt) and the sampled one is clunky and takes a while to load. Inspiration drops when things are slow.
You talked too much ad didn’t give a sample? You basically said go test them. Useless.
dude, always someone posting responses to be rude. If you want samples, then go find them elsewhere. There is more than enough out there. The intent of this video was to explain the differences and pros/cons. Hardly useless. I thought it was very informative. Sheesh!
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What's your opinion of the Garriton CFX ?
I haven’t had the opportunity to try it yet but I’ll be looking to soon!
I was able to get my hands on the Garritan CFX and have a full length review coming out this week!
Bet fam. 🫱🏿🫲🏾
Thanks for watching!