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Doctors, Who Were Your Dumbest Patients?
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Aw the first story about the man who loves his Mama is sweet
Amen. It makes my heart melt. I want to give that guy a hug.
"He a little confused, but he got the spirit!"
Makes it all the more sad what happened to her
It’s not like he was using his brain anyway.
Denise Silveira don’t be rude, gpdude was probably super sad his mom was gonna die, grief doesnthings
The first story is not stupid. That’s a grief reaction.
When I was a little kid I thought brain transplants were possible, granted knew the donor wouldn't survive, I thought it was like a heart transplant where they had a machine to keep the body alive while the vital organs were out.
Yea, poor guy
My dad is an optometrist. He once had a guy come in, claiming he went blind while cooking breakfast. My dad took the guy's glasses and cleaned them, put them back on the patient's face, who then cried "Thank you, doc!" Turned out it was bacon grease!
The lack of basic knowledge in some people is astounding
I would rather choose "shocking" ... most of this basics you get in school. And not only 1 time. At least where I live. But well ... I also had to tell my first boyfriend how the pill is working.
@@coronastern
“The pill” - if you mean the *birth control* pill, that’s not completely crazy. Us dudes don’t need to know *how* it works if we aren’t in medicine. (See note)
I know it does stuff with hormones that suppresses your menstrual cycle, which also serves to save you from bad periods if you’re unlucky and have particularly bad periods.
Note: similarly, most of you laypeople don’t need to know much of *how* a computer does things, you just need to (1) know that it can and (2), ideally, have a rough idea of the limitations of them so you’re not asking the IT people or us programmers to make it do something impossible or that, while possible, would take so long as to render it pointless.
Back when I worked at Home Depot, there was a plaster that came in a tub, I forgot what it was called. They had to put a warning label on it not to use it to cast broken bones, and to seek medical help.
I can see why.
Plaster of Paris?
@@alyseb5730 I did remember. It was PrestoPatch. Plaster of Paris was used for broken bone casting before they switched to Fiberglas.
The guy waiting for a lung transplant and still smoking while in the hospital, reminds me of George Best the English football player. He was a raging alcoholic who eventually needed, and got, a liver transplant. He drank that one into oblivion also. Imagine how the donors family must have felt.
How about the next person on the transplant list?
14:31 - I have heard of breastfeeding a child as late as 4 or 5, but how on God’s green earth do you breastfeed a TWELVE-year-old?!?! That’s DEFINITELY child abuse!!!
I have heard of this but don't understand why it is done. People are CRAZY!
I used to work for an optometrist. 20ish year old girl came in with her mom so the both of them could get exams. My boss diagnosed the girl with congenital cataracts (usually the patients have no idea, it's usually pretty unnoticeable). My boss left the exam room and I'm updating their charts and the girl looks her mom and says "What do my eyes have to do with my vag?" I had to bite my cheeks to stop from laughing when her mom said "Not GENITAL, CONGENITAL. It means you're born with it."
Uhhh....the 13yo is in a sexually abusive relationship. If she's 13 and this her second miscarriage, it's not a stretch to assume that the first one was when she was 12 or younger...
Yeah but who cares that story isn’t real anyway
@@doge8825 Oh really? and how do you know this?
(I know I'm 3 years late, I'm sorry :') )
Not to mention the massive age gap. That's a whole-ass adult dating and having sex with someone who just got into her teens 🤢
Family so big none of the women had been not pregnant for long enough to know what a period was wtf?
That is terrifying
@@dashidashie
No shit.
Great-great-grandmother at mid-'70s? Great. I've just calculated that at least two of the mothers had a child as a minor. There is also a chance that all of the moms (mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, and great-great-grandmother) had a child as a minor wtf
@@lololololol1342
Too many people have kids while they’re only in their teens...
@@pokemagetech In my home-town there's a grandparents club. I heard that the youngest member is 28.
Saw a mother and grandmother bring their toddler in for throat pain they were in the emergency room arguing over if you could get kidney stones in your throat they both came to the conclusion that the kid had kidney stones and that was causing the pain in his throat not a doctor I was in there for stitches
You can’t get kidney stones, but you can definitely get tonsil stones.
Ohhh. They did probably mean tonsil stones
I hate when people premies are no big deal. I am one and had collapsed lung and 2 hernias. 4 months in the hospital when I was a baby. Take premature borns serious
Premies are serious. they are more delicate than full term babies. and much much more susceptible to diseases. I am glad you are okay.
As you've proven, preemies survive a lot more often now than they used to. Doesn't make them being premature any less serious. Glad you're doing okay
Yeah, my little cousin was born a month premature and was in the hospital for the next two weeks because of the various complications, he almost died. I hate people who dont take premies seriously.
i was born 4 months early and stopped breathing a few weeks after being born im so lucky to be alive. people just dont understand the seriousness
I was a premmie baby and had to have so many tests and tubes and crap at the start of my life, 3 pounds 3 ounces and the doctors weren't sure I'd make it. The amount of needles I had in my heels mean I still have scars from them nearly 30 years later. baby being premmie and growing in an incubator is more dangerous than baby growing inside their mother. children born premmie are not ready for the world yet. You decided you wanted to keep that baby and bring it into the world, you can't just bail out of growing it partway through and make the government pay for it just because it's uncomfortable.
the girl taking plan B despite using condoms and BC is kind of a mood
The last one, when I was a kid the guy next door was taking chemo for lung cancer, and was outside at least twenty times a day smoking a cigarette and hacking his lungs out. He died less than a year later, from lung cancer. I mean come on dude!
Im glad the doctor took that last guy on the lung transplant list. Totally doesnt deserve a new one.
Dude, addiction can seriously mess with your head; they can’t help it.
@@KnakuanaRka I've seen plenty of people quit smoking cold turkey and they didn't have lung cancer as an incentive. That fool just didn't want to stop smoking.
@@KnakuanaRka At least switch to nicotine gum...
I get trochanteric bursitis on and off and the bursitis story sends chills down my spine. Idk how tender the knee bursa can get, but if I put just a bit too much pressure on my leg it’s nearly unbearable. I can’t imagine DIGGING INTO IT
4:20 when I was an intern, some guy did the same.
The mistake was originally by a nurse who put saline Inside the bulb instead of water.
The saline crystalized inside and we couldn't remove his catheter.
We referred him to urology, who told him they have to put a tiny needle through his bladder (from above) and burst the bulb so that it'll come out.
He was so afraid of that needle that before he reached back to us, he somehow removed it forcefully.
We had to make him sign a document saying he's responsible for any complications that would happen...
To be fair, what you were going to do doesn’t exactly sound comfortable, but yeah that guy panicked.
As a cancer survivor (of Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma actually) I don't think anything makes me more furious than snake oil salesmen preying on cancer patients in such a vulnerable point in their lives. Like, I know they probably have airtight contracts and legal loopholes they exploit to avoid lawsuits, but it breaks my heart to hear about people with treatable cancers who go the homeopathic route because some untrained idiot decided in their mind it was better, only to go back to get chemo once the cancer is untreatable.
To the woman swallowing her nuvaring, someone needs to figure out who her gyno is because good god that person is clearly not doing their job. I used to take the nuvaring in college and when I first started using it it was needlessly confusing, and the people at the office treated me like I was stupid when I had questions, even though they had basically handed me the thing and told me to gtfo. I never went back there.
Good on you for finding a better doctor's office. Patients should never feel ashamed to ask for clarification on how to use things prescribed to them.
Homeopathy is so popular because all of those who took it against a serious illness could no longer speak about how it did not work at all.
Maybe I was lucky but at 35 weeks my baby was 6 pounds & had mature lungs.
She did behave as a preemie does; temp control, suckling, sleeping, etc - but it wasn't bad enough to keep her from thriving. She was in the 100th percentile all through her childhood.
Doctor: what, if any, medication are you currently taking and what operations have you had and why?
Me: how much time have you got and you've probably never heard of my medical conditions
Always have an updated list with you in case you’re in an accident. Also, doctors and nurses love looking up diseases and conditions they’ve never seen or treated before - we can always Google. ❤️ Hope you’re doing well!
The patient with the maggots under his socks was similar to a story I was made aware of in my area. Since I learned of that incident, every time I make a donation to our local homeless charity, I always include a bulk pack of socks. One thing I learned from military service is the importance of good foot care. Imagine being homeless and trying to keep your feet clean? Happiness is a clean pair of socks!
My grandparents once left the butter out during a heatwave while i was staying at their house. And thats why i spent the holiday in the hospital with food poisoning.
🤢🤮
To people asking if HIPPA would overrule any legal (and ethical) responsibility to report something like the 13 year old with the 19 year old boyfriend, I don't know for sure, but I would guess it would be similar to how teachers are mandated reporters. Regardless of any confidentiality rules, if abuse or anything similar is suspected, it must be reported. The doctors are working for the child's well being, so if something is harming the child's well being, it must be reported. Even if it means that some non-medical personell are given confidential medical information, because they need that information to help the child.
Like I said, I really only know about how it is for teachers, but I would guess it must be the same concept. All I really know, though, is that for teachers, confidential information about students can be shared when it is absolutely necessary to help the student. Usually this just means that info can be shared with other educators that work with the student, if they need to know (so, if a student is special needs, and they spend some time in a normal classroom, but some time in a SPED room, both the SPED teacher and the traditional classroom teacher would be allowed to see the student's IEP). It also applies, though, if certain information is required to make a report to CPS to protect the child.
At 10:20 ish the medic speaks of a patient thinking the end of his finger would grow back, and was told it wouldn’t. Actually, they often do, if the amputation is beyond the last joint.
Eeeh sort of. It's never a perfect replacement. It will still be shorter and very obviously damaged.
@@13vatra Well, if the area at the base of the nail is damaged, the resultant structure can be deformed, certainly. But, if just the fingertip is amputated, regrowth is pretty much normal, especially with children. I saw this repeatedly in my ER practice. Nerve sensation is variable, but often there was normal sensation in under a year. We are in farm country, and traumatic amputation was from farm tools.
@@mred8002 oh you're talking about just skin being gone then. I took "the end of his finger" to be the first joint. Personally I wouldn't consider it a loss of any part of the finger if it's just skin that's gone.
@@13vatra Nope. Tissue and the end of the bone is more than “just skin” It actually does grow back generally. My father-in-law, an accomplished pianist, was devastated when he cut off the end of his middle finger of his left (dominant) hand off with a running sickle bar (hay mowing machine). I happened to treat him in the ER. Took six months, but played fine again.
This happened a few weeks ago but I was fishing under a brige where you have to climb over about 10 yards of uneven granite rocks...well I was walking back but forgot the easiest way back...I jumped onto an uneven rock that I knew I should not have and my ankle rolled I heard a crack and I fell...fast forward a week and I had ended up breaking my leg in three spots the doc asked why I didn't come in sooner...I sed I was haveing too much fun on vacation (walking, swimming and fishing) to let my leg stop me...he just shook his head and left
I don't have a brain. Sooo..
Hi it’s me
From your q&a
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Maybe you could get a transplant.
Well I'm a mmemonicman
The teen who mixed concrete with his hand was misinformed not stupid and he is brighter than a lot of people actually in the stories because he realized it was a bad idea.
Yeah, it isn’t exactly common knowledge that cement is caustic.
18:30 just about sums up the entire Mormon religion
I didn't know wet cement couldn't touch your skin like plaster could. That one is good to know. I'm an artist and that disaster was just waiting to happen
The thing about the guy who came in his underwear and was worried his girlfriend was pregnant is that, actually, it's not that dumb. It's highly unlikely, granted, but it's a fluid. Semen could get through the fabric and if it gets close enough it'll swim like mad to make it. Besides, I'll take teens scared of myths like this over teens who use the pullout method anyday.
It was on her thigh, not labia.
What is up with every male medic in these stories referring to the female anatomy in a derogatory way? Are these stories fake or is every male medic disrespectful / ignorant?
There's a swear filter applied to the text by the TH-camr who posted this. That's why you see "dong" rather than other terms and "shaming" rather than "abuse".
I think autocensorship is more likely.
Some platforms (youtube included) will surpress and even delete posts that use any actual words.
Something I’ve come to realise, is that 50% of a medics job is wasted trying to babysit the ignorant.
24:54 - hey, hey. Smoking is disgusting, repulsive, and starting is incredibly stupid, but let’s be fair: nicotine is stupidly addictive. However, if you’re already addicted, there are OTHER FUCKING WAYS TO GET IT.
3:00 I get yelled at by my mom all the time for doing this. I don't like my leftovers refrigerated. I was raised by my grandparents so that's probably why.
My grandmother is 98 and is probably the most attuned to how long food is left out after being cooked (she knows the 4 hr rule) and makes sure it gets refrigerated. Likely a small part of why she is 98 lol
I had a woman call the pharmacy to tell me "I've been sipping bleach all day, and I don't feel well."
I asked why she would do that?
She replied, "To get clean for a drug test."
I told her to hang up and go to the emergency room, or call poison control.
22:00 Huh... I've heard of "Clergyman's Knee", but never "Carpet Layer's Knee". The one or two times I've had infrapatellar bursitis (Clergyman's Knee) weren't bad at all. It was only mildly uncomfortable and achy. That said, DON'T CUT THE DAMN THING!!! Holy shit, it should only take about a week or maybe two of proper treatment to cure! God! Ugh!
Tbh, I was one of those dumb.
I had a risky surgery last year in my spinal cord. I had to learn how to walk again, so after being bedridden for a long time, the first time I stood again I was like "Oh, I think I'm good to go now!" Walked exactly two steps before falling into my nurses arms. I wasn't allowed to fall, and they put me back to bed, not allowed to stand up, for another day. Learned my lesson.
9:30 tf2 medic is that you?
okay so, my headphones are acting up and the speech kinda sounds like a demon on crack
This doesn't have anything to do with the video but my sister was just yelling for our dad like there was a black widow sprinting towards her to ask for him to make her some popcorn.
Some of these people aren't dumb, just uneducated.
I was once in an er room with a woman who was there because she had shortness of breath. When she pooped. Only when she pooped. I was laying in the bed in pain from my nearly ruptured appendix. The doctor saw her first and she kept arguing with the doctor that he had to do something no matter how many times she was told that the emergency ward couldn't help her. It took them 45 minutes for them to convince her to btfo.
Wow
I had that too. Turns out my main coronary artery was 97% blocked.
People are weird. REALLY weird.
19:16 for those who don't know, what that basically says is "damn, this girl is so bad at faking seizures, but she does it all the time" AKA "don't take what she says/does at face value"
Actually, pseudoseizures are a real thing: www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322016#what-is-a-pseudoseizure
Ngl I leave all my food including rice on the counter overnight in all weather and I've never had any issues.. probably just used to it by now
my grandma does this and it makes me wanna hurl. every so often she gets some mild food poisoning, i think she’s made herself immune
I wore the same socks for three months on a major hiking expedition and I did not get maggots, this man had to be wearing kids socks or something
Yeah, they'd have to be tiny enough to starve his feet of blood to the point of death. It's always dead tissue first, maggots later.
Fr though!
That's sick. It's almost at sick as your picture, not quite...but, it explains a lot.
What does the U.S. do when a homeless person needs medical care? They don't have any money so they can't pay. Does the government pay? Do they just add a dollar to everyone's bill? What happens?!
ER cannot turn anyone away. Government and tax payers foot the bill.
@@CS-md9kw that isn't true at all. They can AND WILL turn you away as long as they don't think you'll die within 36hrs. You get no help unless you're on deaths doorstep...
"Urban outdoorsman" lol love that
He should have been transfered into the psychiatry.
You can, in fact, wear the same socks for a long time. I do for weeks. I also sleep barefoot!
the pseudoseizure comment makes no sense lol. theyre psychological, not neurological.
20:21 You mean a computer mouse, right?
Was about to ask that 😅
Patient: "No. If this is what God wants...."
Counter argument: God created humans with brains. We're able to think for ourselves. Thinking leads to learning which leads to medical advancements. Why would God give us this ability but not want us to use it?
My husband, ex now, ate some chili that had been sitting out for 2 days. I knew it would give him food poisoning because there were bubbles, a froth, on top. I just stirred it up until the bubbles were gone.. Watched him eat it, get violently ill, then the ER. He used to beat me every day, no lie, so I was hoping it would kill him. Too bad it didn't.
1:53 This happened in As I Lay Dying by William Faulker. Guy ended up losing his leg. Just one of the many stupid medical decisions in that book
I was born premature and I almost passed away multiple times and my mum also almost passed away giving birth to me
Was a part-time EMT for 8 years. Encountered 4 men who pulled out their Foley Catheter.
19:22) why would you fake a seizure, that’s just disgusting! I go to a day program and there are two people there that have had seizures and one is on anti-seizure medication and let me tell you that is scary as shit. and I’m saying that as a person that has both parents in the medical field, just watching someone lose control of their body and fall to the floor convulsing scares me every time
I literally wouldn't not be able to keep a straight face
"And yes we did later find out that he was trying to steal the wall-mounted hand sanitizers from the ER." I assume he was planning to drink the sanitizer from the containers (suicide risk)?
Severe alcoholic
And it was at that moment he knew fucked up. This explains everything
After 7 years I gained the courage to start my own TH-cam channel ( as I hated the sound of my voice) I wanna thank u coz I love ur content and my account is of the same niche as yours
I know what you mean my voice is horrific but I am still trying new things on my chanal but besides that You just gained a subscriber
@@darklycan4583 thanks
I'll give you a free sub
You should kink shame for sticking a mouse..... BAHAHAHAHA! I almost couldn’t type that with a straight face!
The people I know who keep food out for days have it as a pot of soup perpetually simmering until they run out, some bread and butter which are pretty normal and usually safe to keep out, then the pot gets washed and new batch of that perpetually simmering soup is made for anyone who comes in and needs a meal at random times of day or night.
Collagenase is an ointment that acts like maggots to debride.
Maggots saved that guys legs god damn
All my recent infections happened in a hospital! All mild ones from common stomach bacteria and a fungus! And if my wounds were on my leg instead of super weird intensely painful places on my abdomen and a pelvic abscess I would be begrudgingly doing wet-dry packing and toting myself around on crutches instead of carrying a purse with a little vacuum inside and trying to maintain a very painful situation and not need yet *more* butt stitches.
You need to look into colloidal copper and silver...
so we're gonna call it child shaming now? more and more benign, non-specific terms?
Some platforms censor the real word and might even take the post down if you don't use a different term
@@nikdozajimavy1277 i see. people better stop using the term shame in the old sense then. Like molest, just meant annoy or bother
Food poisoning: my DH and I go round and round about it when he makes chicken adobo. He thinks since it has vinegar in it its ok to leave the chicken out after cooking. I put it away
Brain transplants are simple; it’s reinstalling the operating system that is technical
5:44 is that were true, I'd be sleeping with people left and right to give them asthma.
That poor dude who needed a lung transplant threw away his only chance because he couldn't kick his addiction. That's sad.
My friend is a nurse at an emergency walk in centre and had to treat a guy who had a very obvious burn on the tip of his penis and he refused to tell her how it’d happened as he was afraid his mother and father would find out.
Well a video started going viral in our home town- a guy in a pub toilet filming himself putting a match stick up his pee hole and then striking the match. It eventually made it to the nurses phone as we were sat in the same pub it happened in and she put the pieces together and knew exactly how he’d gotten burned and she said- “he asked me to just superglue the whole area shut and he’d just hold in peeing until it was healed.”
20:20- interestingly enough in ancient Greece a husband who's wife had cheated on him with another man could legally punish the man by sticking a radish into a certain orifice. I can't help but wondering if that patient was Greek. Although that still doesn't explain the mouse.
That’s a stretch; more likely they were just crazy or lacking in sex toys.
She was pissed and threw that in as a bonus. Lol
poor mouse!
18:10 what!?! 🤦🏻♀️
I can answer that for you, let’s see, I don’t remember the quantities, but six sugars for every tea, and that’s straight sugar, not sugar, substitute, not Splenda and Stevia. And then six meals a day and all they are are bacon sandwiches with butter. I am almost certain that’s white bread. Those are called simple, carbs, and I’m a type two diabetic due to no fault for my own, unless you call my genetics my own fault. Rare genetic syndrome that gets every doctor I’ve ever met to have one of those beautiful lightbulb moments that makes them get out their old med textbooks. Anyway, if you think of carbs as yarn and body as the person unraveling me ball of yarn, simple, carves, like sugar, and white bread, take a really short time unravel. Bacon has a lot of sodium in it, especially if it’s cured, sodium, jack up your blood pressure, so your heart has to work harder to get the blood everywhere. I can see how his blood pressure is really high and he’s either prediabetic or diabetic. And I’m almost certain that’s not unsalted butter or grass fed butter, so then the sodium gets jacked up more. There’s also no color, that’s what I know is a brown and yellow meal, it has the same color combination as fried chicken and macaroni and cheese. He needs a diet lecture courtesy of my mother, but short of that he could use a change from standard white bread to whole wheat bread to an ancient grain bread, like spelt bread, or a brand that I like, called food for life Ezekiel. Mom is a next nursing student, got LPN, but life events plus adrenal burnout doctor from getting her RN, both she and I should’ve been nutrition majors. She is now licensed, massage therapist, so she’s in that ballpark, me, while we’re getting there. Same syndrome, I mentioned before also causes blindness, so getting employees to not be terrified of me is the first step.
The issue with robot readings is theres never any follow up. A lot of voiced reddit-tubers will follow up to see whats going on. "In the comments someone answered" etc.
4:44 i need to know if that was in american measurements or English...
Sarah - American. 1100 in American is 61.1 in English, so it's still a miracle she was conscious. I don't think blood is capable of dissolving enough sugar to reach 1100 in English. :)
om.. I'm diabetic and English and omg.... I can't even imagine that....
6:56
Me (🇬🇧): Pathetic
People who want brain transplants should be asked if they want to wake up with the problems of whoever they’re asking for one for and when they ask why, told “well if it was possible that’s what would happen.”
A famous football player in the UK had to have a liver transplant because he drank his liver to death and guess what he did exactly the same to the next one but he died this time. That liver could of gone to someone who really needed it but no.the big star football player who couldn't go a few hours without a drink got it instead
Still makes me angry about it now.
"How do I take a pill?"
Cement is made with limestone. CaCO3. Just add water and you've got carbonic acid!
jeez. not sorry to no longer working. i couldn't take the stupidity any longer.
_steel wool_
I have left the chat.
7:10 I'd like to know where that guy got the money for so much goddamn bacon, shi ain't cheap! And also how he didn't bust a gut trying to eat so much all the time. 😲
Ever poured a coke over raw pork?
14:40 Damn werewolves
Come now, werewolves aren't THAT stupid. I'm fairly sure even the dumbest ones vaccinate their kids when in human form.
For that story about the homeless man.... hes homeless so ya know there's a good chance he can't change his socks. I mean yeah he coulda took them off but 🤷🏽♀️
I hope the girl on her period also gets care, if she’s in a lot of pain she shouldn’t have to be.
Twat spotting...... Really guy??
🤣🤣🤣 ''My neurologist says that I have the worst pseudoseizure he has ever seen.
The dude who didn't understand how to take four pills a day, they should have let him have his whole bottle anyways.
I would be the girl who went to the ER for plan b because I really just hate the idea of getting pregnant
It's been over the counter for a long time so why announce that? It's just best not to be "like that" and sleep with people carelessly. No matter how you look at it, you're ending a life, provided one was started.
@@catwoman2596 That is probably the stupidest thing I've read on the internet today. You don't know what plan B is or how it works. You judge people for being "like that" when you don't know if someone is married, in a long term commitment or is just having sex because they enjoy (and have every right to do so). And no, plan B isn't ending a life. And while we're at it, neither is abortion.
19:23 Can someone please explain?
She was having seizures due to a head injury.
My ignorant, narcissistic parents have become even more ignorant and narcissistic over the past decade and now they refuse to go to the doctors because "they'll tell us we're wrong" about their self diagnosis of nothing being wrong
Ffs
The first one was pretty sweet.
I've seen several people yank out a Foley. Makes me cringe every time.
As much as the thought of a catheter freaks me out, if a doctor or nurse pops something into me, I'm not taking it out myself unless explicitly instructed to. And even then ughhhhh🤮
That poor dog....
BIG SAD
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updoot this video.
Sir Where is the gulag?
Darklycan 458 You will find out soon.
yes sir
IMO, the story at 20:08 isn't as dumb as it seems. Anyone who has ever read a soap bottle has definitely seen "For external use only." Someone could read that and think "Man, they put that there for a reason, probably shouldn't let that get in my body. I'm fairly loose from all the butt stuff, so I'm just not gonna risk it." A misguided conclusion for sure, but it's entirely reasonable.